Only annoying thing to me going this route is the barrel and slide over hanging the grip module by .3 inches at the muzzle end. I might buy a full size X Series grip module and just cut/sand it so it's flush with my 3.9 inch slide.
This was an excellent presentation, thanks for taking the time to do this. Just as an FYI, those ‘magazine contact points’ in the grip frame of the X Compact are channels for tungsten weights from Armory Craft... I believe they add about 1.4 oz to the rear of the gun to make it feel more traditionally balanced.
First one you touched is the original compact. The carry models, old and new, have a full height grip, with a compact slide, so the magazine size is different. The x-compact is where things shifted with the shorter slide, but compact height grip. Thanks for the video.
I have Man Hands and absolutely LOVE the Sig Carry Grip in Large! I like it more than my AXG or Wilson Combat grips! My Large Hands are one reason why I always shoot 45ACP pistols better than almost any 9mm (larger grip).
Excellent Video!! I came upon your video looking for info on magazine compatibility and I left with so much more. Your findings on the fitment with the TLR-1 HL on the X-Compact grip was a game changer in my decision making. Thanks for the info on the work around with the TSW/99 insert. I played around with that insert on the OG grip and, in my personal opinion, found the amount of play between the light insert width and the rail notch spacing to be unacceptable for me. Your mileage may vary. Thanks for saving me $50-60 bucks and a lot of time purchasing the X-Grip.
Very helpful! Was curious about the difference in sizes between the X series sizes. BTW the X-Carry has the longer rail but has some other differences too.
Excellent comparison with intense detail. I especially appreciate the comments about the rail being shorter on the p320x grip module. Aesthetics are different too since the p320 slide and barrel are a bit longer than the p320x compact model. Thanks!
How do the subcompact and x-compact grip modules match up? I have a subcompact and am wondering if the x-compact grip module will work with the slide and barrel from the subcompact. Considering they both have a 3.6" barrel
The sub-compact grip is about 1/16" shorter than the x-compact grip where the slide sits on the frame. If your sub-compact slide is perfectly flush with the end of the subcompact frame, the x-compact grip could protrude a slight bit, but you could also just file that down.
Been having this exact problem with my P320C small grip module. Feeling a lot more confident about an x-compact grip module as a potential solution thanks to your review.
The Wilson grip is also an improvement over the original one, but I don't shoot quite as well with it as with the x-compact one. It has a wider bottom section and angles my hand more similar to how glock grips do (which aren't very natural for me).
@@FaRKle0079 reach out to them and ask them if you can do a review of their grip module. I think a new generation is coming at the end of the this month.
SIG needs to put together a configurator that tells you what options and grip frames fit together. Included with that is some wsy to figure out what fits your hand best. Grip vary by size and by height/capacity. Maybe they need to fasten one of each in a ‘try board’ for gun stores. It is very frustrating to try to buy stuff off the SIG web site…
Carry and compact arent the same. Carry has a the fullsize magazine (17 rounds) and compact is shorter (15 rounds). The Carry is also the same as the many of the newer fullsize models (though some have an even larger nose with more rails than the Carry style frame.
Hey there, have you shot with the AXG grip? I currently have a OEM stock grip in size small, contemplating about switching to either the X Compact in size small or the AXG.
I just bought a X-full with a Romeo 1 and I miss the old rounded grip. Luckily I can fix that. I probably should have checked the forums as it seems most people are swapping the other way.
Question when u mentioned the xcarry is the same as the xcompact module I thought that was not true. I thought the xcarry module is longer due to the 3.9 inch barrel size. I thought if u install a xcarry lower module it would have more space between the trigger guard and picatinnynrail. The xcompact is 3.6. Can u clarify?
Sorry, where did I say the X-Carry and X-Compact are the same? The X-Carry and X-Compact grip modules have different grips since the Carry takes 17rnd mags and the compact 15rnd.
i just bought P-320 compact (not the x) i'm looking to get the x compact module in a small. do the magazines from the p320 fit into the x compact module? i watched another video where the guy had to file down the wings. thanks
Your explanations are clear and crisp, the on screen numbers make a big difference. I'm now convince that the X compact 320 is my choice for a side arm
What an idiotic comment. Not everyone is built the same and different grip sizes and shapes can make a difference in how well people shoot a particular gun.
What constantly amazes me with younger shooters these days is how picky they are. I grew up during a time where the shooter adapted to the firearm, not the other way around. I don’t know if hands have gotten smaller or what, but older shooters (see Hickok45) wrap just about every pistol in layers of Talon grip tape. The other thing is bore axis and felt recoil. I’m wondering how many young people these days shoot revolvers, especially high power like the .357 magnum, where you have an extremely high bore axis and felt recoil. The other thing is ammo. The FBI begged and pleaded for something with more “stopping power” than the 9mm. S&W came out with the .40 caliber. As qualifying scores began to drop because younger cadets, especially females, couldn’t master the recoil, the FBI went back to the 9mm. We have grown extremely soft as a society and this phenomenon is just one of many symptoms. You can’t “customize” your way into becoming a proficient shooter. It takes practice, practice, and more practice. I go to the range weekly to keep my skills honed and at 70, almost always score better than my younger competitors who have spent hundreds or even thousands on customized equipment. This is not a criticism about you specifically, just a general observation and thanks for the video because I was curious about the differences in the various frames.
Wow, excellent job on the video. 👍🏻 Thank you
I can’t believe that a company would release such an awful grip! The original p320 grip is a joke. Absolutely horrific.
Outstanding and precise comparison! extremely helpful! Thank You for showing it
Very nicely done and just what I was looking for! I have a medium xcompact grip module and was trying to decide whether to try the small.
I love Sig for always introducing something new and improved, but I also hate Sig for always introducing something new and improved. Lol 😆
I'm with you there. "Oh darn, another thing to buy and see if I like it better!" Haha.
So the small, medium and large sizes are basically a backstrap size?
Only annoying thing to me going this route is the barrel and slide over hanging the grip module by .3 inches at the muzzle end. I might buy a full size X Series grip module and just cut/sand it so it's flush with my 3.9 inch slide.
Yeah that overhang could've been used for an additional rail slot too giving better light compatibility.
Holy moley! Excellent detail giving us all the exact measurements and side-by-side comparisons. Very helpful video!
This was an excellent presentation, thanks for taking the time to do this. Just as an FYI, those ‘magazine contact points’ in the grip frame of the X Compact are channels for tungsten weights from Armory Craft... I believe they add about 1.4 oz to the rear of the gun to make it feel more traditionally balanced.
Thanks for that tidbit of info on the weights! Makes a lot more sense now.
First one you touched is the original compact. The carry models, old and new, have a full height grip, with a compact slide, so the magazine size is different. The x-compact is where things shifted with the shorter slide, but compact height grip. Thanks for the video.
I have Man Hands and absolutely LOVE the Sig Carry Grip in Large! I like it more than my AXG or Wilson Combat grips! My Large Hands are one reason why I always shoot 45ACP pistols better than almost any 9mm (larger grip).
Great video thanks 🙏 just ordered my x compact
The slide on my sub-compact p320 is 6 1/8" long... Will this sslide work on a compact grip module? Thanks...
Excellent Video!! I came upon your video looking for info on magazine compatibility and I left with so much more. Your findings on the fitment with the TLR-1 HL on the X-Compact grip was a game changer in my decision making. Thanks for the info on the work around with the TSW/99 insert. I played around with that insert on the OG grip and, in my personal opinion, found the amount of play between the light insert width and the rail notch spacing to be unacceptable for me. Your mileage may vary. Thanks for saving me $50-60 bucks and a lot of time purchasing the X-Grip.
Thank you for posting this. The comparison with the barrel/slide length on the grip frame was extremely helpful!
Looks like someone tried to make a P320 feel like a Glock.
Which is like trying to make a Porsche look like a Honda...
Thank you! What a helpful video, everything I needed to know upgrading my old P320 with the compact medium grip. I'll also try the X compact small.
Thank you! Just bought the P320 and wanted to know the differences between grips
Very helpful! Was curious about the difference in sizes between the X series sizes. BTW the X-Carry has the longer rail but has some other differences too.
Very helpful information, thank you!
You're the man for this video. Thanks!
Great analysis of the 2 grips and the differences. I think you talked me into upgrading into that x-compact grip
Excellent comparison with intense detail. I especially appreciate the comments about the rail being shorter on the p320x grip module. Aesthetics are different too since the p320 slide and barrel are a bit longer than the p320x compact model. Thanks!
Thank you for this video very informative
How do the subcompact and x-compact grip modules match up? I have a subcompact and am wondering if the x-compact grip module will work with the slide and barrel from the subcompact. Considering they both have a 3.6" barrel
The sub-compact grip is about 1/16" shorter than the x-compact grip where the slide sits on the frame. If your sub-compact slide is perfectly flush with the end of the subcompact frame, the x-compact grip could protrude a slight bit, but you could also just file that down.
thanks for all the work nice vid.
Very nice explanations. Thank you.
Been having this exact problem with my P320C small grip module. Feeling a lot more confident about an x-compact grip module as a potential solution thanks to your review.
The Wilson grip is also an improvement over the original one, but I don't shoot quite as well with it as with the x-compact one. It has a wider bottom section and angles my hand more similar to how glock grips do (which aren't very natural for me).
Full - 17 Round Flush (Long dust cover for 4.7 barrel & slide)
Carry - 17 Round Flush (Shorter dust cover for 3.9 barrel & slide)
Compact - 15 Round Flush
Subcompact - 12 Round Flush
They lose cross slots as the dust cover is shortened for the shorter slides.
Is it true the M17 uses the compact grip module not the full size?
I have not handled a bona-fide Military issue M17 or M18. My understanding is they both use the Full Frame - Short Dust Cover like the Carry.
Great video, very informative. Answered all my questions. Now I don’t have to roll the dice when buying a new grip module.
Glad you found it useful. I find it frustrating that you pretty much have to buy to try and see what the different modules offer.
You should look into the ACE Icarus all metal grip module, you might like it. Let me know what you think?
Wow, at that price I wish there was a "try before you buy" option, haha.
@@FaRKle0079 reach out to them and ask them if you can do a review of their grip module. I think a new generation is coming at the end of the this month.
Excellent , thanks
Just ordered up the small for my compact 357 Sig. Can't wait! Thanks for helping by showing the differences.
Great review, i like mine too.
Good job man. Well done. I’m curious on the size difference between the large x and medium x and u would be the right man for the job
SIG needs to put together a configurator that tells you what options and grip frames fit together.
Included with that is some wsy to figure out what fits your hand best. Grip vary by size and by height/capacity. Maybe they need to fasten one of each in a ‘try board’ for gun stores.
It is very frustrating to try to buy stuff off the SIG web site…
Carry and compact arent the same. Carry has a the fullsize magazine (17 rounds) and compact is shorter (15 rounds). The Carry is also the same as the many of the newer fullsize models (though some have an even larger nose with more rails than the Carry style frame.
Did grip affect holster fit?
I haven't experienced any difference in holster fit with this grip module.
yo, if I have the OG 320 that never went in for the recall, can I still use any of these?
My FCU is OG too (but I did the recall). Yours will work in these grip modules just fine.
thank you. I wasn't too sure and fig I'd ask. when u did recall. did they send you any mags or anything? @@FaRKle0079
Hey there, have you shot with the AXG grip? I currently have a OEM stock grip in size small, contemplating about switching to either the X Compact in size small or the AXG.
Unfortunately I've never had the chance to play around with an AXG grip 🙁
Excellent explanation and visual comparisons.
At 5:40 that is not contact points, if you look at it from the top that is slots for 3 tungsten weights.
Do they come with the cutouts for the m18 safety?
Thanks for this breakdown of the grip.
I just bought a X-full with a Romeo 1 and I miss the old rounded grip. Luckily I can fix that. I probably should have checked the forums as it seems most people are swapping the other way.
Wow, yeah I bet you can get a deal on people offloading the "old" grips!
That’s great information! Thanks
Question when u mentioned the xcarry is the same as the xcompact module I thought that was not true. I thought the xcarry module is longer due to the 3.9 inch barrel size. I thought if u install a xcarry lower module it would have more space between the trigger guard and picatinnynrail. The xcompact is 3.6. Can u clarify?
Sorry, where did I say the X-Carry and X-Compact are the same? The X-Carry and X-Compact grip modules have different grips since the Carry takes 17rnd mags and the compact 15rnd.
i just bought P-320 compact (not the x) i'm looking to get the x compact module in a small. do the magazines from the p320 fit into the x compact module? i watched another video where the guy had to file down the wings. thanks
P320 mags with the old "Sig Sauer" logo (vs just SIG) need the "wings" chopped to work in the x-series grips.
I have the same gun but my slide catch lever is the bigger one. Will that still work on the x compact grip module?
It should. As you can see there's plenty of clearance between the slide catch lever and the swell from the hand grip.
Does the X grip fit in the same holsters as the original p320? I have a few safariland holsters and would be sad if I'd have to replace those too
Yup, fits my Safariland ALS holster just the same as before.
can a XCompact slide and barrel fit properly on a regular small grip module?
No. The x compact unfortunately is a shorter slide, it's a sub compact slide technically. It would fit flush only with a sub compact grip module
I have the p320 compact. I'm not sure what size grip it is. But it sounds like the x compact small might work the best? Does it take the 15 round mag?
Yes, it takes the 15rnd mags.
@@FaRKle0079 Do you have to get a completely different holster?
@@JadeSchafer I didn't. After swapping grip modules it still fits my safariland just the same.
Have you tested the apx grip?
I really haven't looked at any of the other grips besides these and the Wilson (which I've just been putting off making a video of).
Your explanations are clear and crisp, the on screen numbers make a big difference. I'm now convince that the X compact 320 is my choice for a side arm
Very helpful. Thanks.
Will the x compact grip module fit the 320 subcompact slide, thanks
I believe it should. I have a P320 subcompact grip module and it's 2mm shorter in front than the x-compact grip module.
Love when someone can’t shoot a gun well so they blame the gun when it’s them with the problem.
What an idiotic comment. Not everyone is built the same and different grip sizes and shapes can make a difference in how well people shoot a particular gun.
What constantly amazes me with younger shooters these days is how picky they are. I grew up during a time where the shooter adapted to the firearm, not the other way around. I don’t know if hands have gotten smaller or what, but older shooters
(see Hickok45) wrap just about every pistol in layers of Talon grip tape. The other thing is bore axis and felt recoil. I’m wondering how many young people these days shoot revolvers, especially high power like the .357 magnum, where you have an extremely high bore axis and felt recoil. The other thing is ammo. The FBI begged and pleaded for something with more “stopping power” than the 9mm. S&W came out with the .40 caliber. As qualifying scores began to drop because younger cadets, especially females, couldn’t master the recoil, the FBI went back to the 9mm. We have grown extremely soft as a society and this phenomenon is just one of many symptoms. You can’t “customize” your way into becoming a proficient shooter. It takes practice, practice, and more practice. I go to the range weekly to keep my skills honed and at 70, almost always score better than my younger competitors who have spent hundreds or even thousands on customized equipment. This is not a criticism about you specifically, just a general observation and thanks for the video because I was curious about the differences in the various frames.