Nope. Year 1 of Porsche 911 996.1, 1999 for USA, was cable throttle not eGas, and it’s become well known they were a bit more torquey and fun. Lexus GSF 2016, year 1, very solid although it’s a bit too stiff when just driving it casually as a luxury car (engine intake sounds, torque vector diff, and excitement those create are very good).
I agree about the radio. I have a 21 lc 500 performance pkg the exact same exterior and interior colors as yours and this is the only car I have owned where I tend to leave the radio off. I suggest trading your '17 in for a '21-23 model since they perfected all the issues you mentioned with the early '17-19 models. Btw, thanks for pointing out the headlight washers, I honestly never knew I had headlight washers 😂.
@regnorum the performance package (also called the dynamic handling package on '21 and above models) is around $9500 and provides the following: Includes Sport Package (with carbon fiber roof), and adds or replaces: Torsen®43 limited-slip rear differential (LC 500h) Active Rear Steering Variable Gear-Ratio Steering with Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) 25 Speed-activated rear wing Alcantara®4 headliner Carbon fiber door scuff plates 21-in staggered-width split-five-spoke forged alloy wheels41 with polished finish and Gloss Black accents
@ericdavis2312 Ok 9.5k is nice amount of money but you do get a lot of stuff. Altho as far as I can see not much that will actually affect performance in a big way. But again LC is not about performance that much. Rear wing, Alcantara and door scuff plates on its own are worth it. One more thing mate what is the fuel consumption you get so far?
@regnorum I'm getting about 20mpg combined highway and city driving and I am not a conservative driver. I can get as good as 30mpg on long highway trips if I am reasonably conservative and as low as 9 mpg city if I am flooring it from stoplight to stoplight. The performance package is well worth it for the 21" wheels and rear wheel steering. That rear wheel steering is great for pulling into parking spaces and u-turns at low speeds and cornering at high speeds.
First year production issue it looks like. I got a 22 LC convertible and it seems to be fine for the most part. On the bright side it looks like no real engine problems just little things and that weird transmission replacement which is totally out of character for a Lexus
@@regnorum I'd love a convertible, but haven't driven one, just for the ultimate eargasm, the coupe does a good job minus whistling from one window due to rubber seals
You always buy a car 2 or 3 years after it has been launched because it also gives time for the manufacturer time to sort out little issues. I know a guy who's had his which was a 2020 model and has 60000km currently on the clock. Not even a squeek or rattle anywhere. He said he's enjoyed his car far more that cars that cost 2 or even 3 times it's price tag.
The LC500 auto insurance is a major item in car ownership and one for which many Lexus LC 500 owners do not appreciate until after they live with this fantastic car after a few years! The low production rate for this model makes it very expensive to repair due to the scarcity of spare parts vice that of other larger volume car models such as Mercedes, Audi, BMW, and Porsche.
I just had $17k of damage to my Structural Blue while it was just parked!! Hood, fender, front grill/bumper paint, rim, and driver side headlight assembly. It was just reported as minor damage on Cardax report. 5 dinged for some loss value, which I will get from the person's insurance company since it wasn't my fault!
I was just quoted, by Allstate, 400 month, for insurance and that's a bundle price with my home, zero tickets or accident s or claims in 5 years! What?!!!!
I am really tempted to get one that’s 100k km for like 20% of the initial selling price around 9 years down the road, definitely getting a 2023 or 2024 model
Get a used one, just not one before '20. They fine tuned the transmission and suspension from '20 onward. To me, the best years to get are '21-23. I have a '21 and love it!
One of my dream cars. I loved the first edition in that beautiful dark blue with a white interior accented by colored leather trim. It was absolutely spectacular! But they don't offer that white interior with that contrasting colored leather as an option anymore unfortunately, I think it was a launch edition special color. So the only way to get one now is on the used car market and it was a rare option back then too so probably very hard to find, especially a good one that doesn't have a horrible interior due to lack of cleaning or something. But I do like the Olive Green 2024 they have available now. It's a beautiful metallic olive green. I do like the dark blue one too, it's really sharp looking, especially if you get a contrasting colored interior like the camel colored one.
- And here you have it, I’ve had one more issue a few days ago with the rear blind spot sensor bugging on me (fixed under warranty, around 1500 EUR in parts and labor). The car was a launch model, top spec, full history, etc. So, don’t blame the owners; the transmission was replacement by the previous owner :) Anyway, no hating, just wanted to draw a more realistic picture than from reviewers who drive it for a week and claim it as the best thing, which it can be. - The interior quality is great, no issues or squeaks after all these miles. I’ve had to redo this review twice because GoPro kept overheating, so might’ve missed a few things. Sorry! Will try to get something better for the late 2024 reviews. Thank you for watching.
*Customer* - There's a spec of dust on the bonnet *Lexus* - We'll fix that under warranty *Customer* - The Engine is blown, the transmission is out, the wheels fall off every time I turn right ... *Lexus* - None of that is covered by the expensive warranty you're paying for!
It's 1200 (Macan) to ~2500 EUR per year for a Porsche Approved warranty that you can extend for 15 years, which means it's cheaper to drive a Porsche than any other German car. Once they even changed ceramics for Panamera under warranty after many years, which was insane and blew my mind. Also, it's far less strict than Lexus which insists you buy all original parts (that are not under warranty) if you want to have Lexus warranty (for the entire car). With Porsche, you can just do break change or anything at any cheap shop for 4x less and still enjoy Porsche warranty for all but the brakes.
bro you are picking apart the best car in the world model year 2018-23 non-issue, yep new screen kills the flow of the interior if you have to have a screen buy an ES350...honestly I don't even hear 1st world problems...I think you should buy a Land Rover, Audi or BMW and find out what lemons are made of ha ha...they are fun but very high maintenance and huge $ to repair + don't age well
There are countless thread on lexus forums with the same issues, people will always blame the previous or current owner, never the carmaker, which is like the craziest thing
We humans are fickle type. creatures. In the past times when every American sports and GT type car engine was.loud and thunderous, exhaust noise and high engine rev rpms were everyday normal for every young male in their 20s, muscle cars were not typically noticed, rather it was the mechanically 'advanced' smaller, exotic European engines and sounds that were desired and looked on with envy! Fast forward half a century and now that the American muscle are is the 'rare breed' everyone desires the brute force large displacement n/a engines and it is the quieter European cars that are 'taken for granted' by a lot of enthusiasts. Go figure! We always want that which we do not/not longer possess and desire to possess the things that we have/no longer have! The cycle continues!
You have to remember that the LC is hand made. It’s low volume. Dealers don’t have much expertise around them and bespoke parts like the gearbox are really still unknowns. Engine is however well proven
Much as I love Lexus, I always thought this was/is one of the most hideous cars I've ever seen. The plastic rear light cluster and the rear design as a whole is absolutely gopping!
i know two persons who have the 2017 Lc 500 a
and non of them has the issues that you mentioned.
Both are very happy with their cars.🧐
This is the only LC500 I have ever seen with issues. Wow!
It’s probably a 3/4 owner car that’s why
Show his another vid some month ago, and see what he is done with this poor car.
Its probably because its the first year model, I thought they came out in 2018 until this video
In forums 2018 owners report same issues, sadly, remains to be seen if 2019 owners report the same a year or two later.
That’s why u don’t buy first model year of any car
True, but such serious issues with first year CT200h or IS300h
Nope. Year 1 of Porsche 911 996.1, 1999 for USA, was cable throttle not eGas, and it’s become well known they were a bit more torquey and fun. Lexus GSF 2016, year 1, very solid although it’s a bit too stiff when just driving it casually as a luxury car (engine intake sounds, torque vector diff, and excitement those create are very good).
nice car I will got this one someday
Me too
Me too
Maybe problem was it is first year production car.
It's first time I hear that someone had so many issues with LC500
I agree about the radio. I have a 21 lc 500 performance pkg the exact same exterior and interior colors as yours and this is the only car I have owned where I tend to leave the radio off. I suggest trading your '17 in for a '21-23 model since they perfected all the issues you mentioned with the early '17-19 models. Btw, thanks for pointing out the headlight washers, I honestly never knew I had headlight washers 😂.
Haha! You're welcome. I wish I could convince myself to spend same cash again for a newer car (cabrio probably for more sound), so many cars to try...
How much more is performance package and what are the specs?
@regnorum the performance package (also called the dynamic handling package on '21 and above models) is around $9500 and provides the following:
Includes Sport Package (with carbon fiber roof), and adds or replaces:
Torsen®43 limited-slip rear differential (LC 500h)
Active Rear Steering
Variable Gear-Ratio Steering with Vehicle Dynamics Integrated
Management (VDIM)
25
Speed-activated rear wing
Alcantara®4 headliner
Carbon fiber door scuff plates
21-in staggered-width split-five-spoke forged alloy wheels41 with
polished finish and Gloss Black accents
@ericdavis2312 Ok 9.5k is nice amount of money but you do get a lot of stuff. Altho as far as I can see not much that will actually affect performance in a big way. But again LC is not about performance that much. Rear wing, Alcantara and door scuff plates on its own are worth it.
One more thing mate what is the fuel consumption you get so far?
@regnorum I'm getting about 20mpg combined highway and city driving and I am not a conservative driver. I can get as good as 30mpg on long highway trips if I am reasonably conservative and as low as 9 mpg city if I am flooring it from stoplight to stoplight. The performance package is well worth it for the 21" wheels and rear wheel steering. That rear wheel steering is great for pulling into parking spaces and u-turns at low speeds and cornering at high speeds.
My 2017 Lexus GS F V8 sedan has been fantastic, no issues whatsoever. Love the car and the fantastic 5 liter motor.
That's a cool car
Ditto - I have oened a 2017 GSF (UK model) coming up to 5 years now. Zero issues. Agree it's a fantastic car.
First year production issue it looks like. I got a 22 LC convertible and it seems to be fine for the most part.
On the bright side it looks like no real engine problems just little things and that weird transmission replacement which is totally out of character for a Lexus
Agreed!
Hopefully I might be able to get one for myself end of the year. Whats your thoughts on isolation for your convertible?
@@regnorum I'd love a convertible, but haven't driven one, just for the ultimate eargasm, the coupe does a good job minus whistling from one window due to rubber seals
You always buy a car 2 or 3 years after it has been launched because it also gives time for the manufacturer time to sort out little issues. I know a guy who's had his which was a 2020 model and has 60000km currently on the clock. Not even a squeek or rattle anywhere. He said he's enjoyed his car far more that cars that cost 2 or even 3 times it's price tag.
True!
Thank you so much for uploading this content.
The LC500 auto insurance is a major item in car ownership and one for which many Lexus LC 500 owners do not appreciate until after they live with this fantastic car after a few years! The low production rate for this model makes it very expensive to repair due to the scarcity of spare parts vice that of other larger volume car models such as Mercedes, Audi, BMW, and Porsche.
Great point
I just had $17k of damage to my Structural Blue while it was just parked!! Hood, fender, front grill/bumper paint, rim, and driver side headlight assembly. It was just reported as minor damage on Cardax report. 5 dinged for some loss value, which I will get from the person's insurance company since it wasn't my fault!
I was just quoted, by Allstate, 400 month, for insurance and that's a bundle price with my home, zero tickets or accident s or claims in 5 years! What?!!!!
i own a 2018 lc500 and have no problems at all only a door handle motor gave out thats about it and warranty covered it
Fixed under warranty and some squirts of wd40 to fix???? Come on man. Still looks like a great real world car to me. Don't waste my time.
I am really tempted to get one that’s 100k km for like 20% of the initial selling price around 9 years down the road, definitely getting a 2023 or 2024 model
I think this is an excellent review.
Thank you!
Interesting video, I have a LC too and I’m coming up to a year of ownership next month. I too have lc videos on my channel if you wish to see😊
I was seriously considered buying a used LC but your review really help me stay away from it mainly because of the transmission issue 😢
in EU there is a 10 year Lexus warranty as long as you do yearly maintenance at the dealer, maybe the same applies to other continents?
Get a used one, just not one before '20. They fine tuned the transmission and suspension from '20 onward. To me, the best years to get are '21-23. I have a '21 and love it!
Wrong person to convince you not to purchase a car
@@ericdavis2312I agree
@@ericdavis2312reliability won’t be different for any year. As for the best year….. the newer ones don’t sound nearly as good
I adore the sound of. lol haha I agree . I have one sounds great
My 2018 has been bullet proof. Maybe his was made on a Friday.
One of my dream cars. I loved the first edition in that beautiful dark blue with a white interior accented by colored leather trim. It was absolutely spectacular! But they don't offer that white interior with that contrasting colored leather as an option anymore unfortunately, I think it was a launch edition special color. So the only way to get one now is on the used car market and it was a rare option back then too so probably very hard to find, especially a good one that doesn't have a horrible interior due to lack of cleaning or something. But I do like the Olive Green 2024 they have available now. It's a beautiful metallic olive green. I do like the dark blue one too, it's really sharp looking, especially if you get a contrasting colored interior like the camel colored one.
True! It's still stunning to this day, 2017 or 2024, inside and out.
- And here you have it, I’ve had one more issue a few days ago with the rear blind spot sensor bugging on me (fixed under warranty, around 1500 EUR in parts and labor). The car was a launch model, top spec, full history, etc. So, don’t blame the owners; the transmission was replacement by the previous owner :) Anyway, no hating, just wanted to draw a more realistic picture than from reviewers who drive it for a week and claim it as the best thing, which it can be.
- The interior quality is great, no issues or squeaks after all these miles. I’ve had to redo this review twice because GoPro kept overheating, so might’ve missed a few things. Sorry! Will try to get something better for the late 2024 reviews. Thank you for watching.
*Customer* - There's a spec of dust on the bonnet
*Lexus* - We'll fix that under warranty
*Customer* - The Engine is blown, the transmission is out, the wheels fall off every time I turn right ...
*Lexus* - None of that is covered by the expensive warranty you're paying for!
Scratches? Lol. Maybe by the car brand new and then get it fully protected with paint protection film?
Ppf?
Wow that’s crazy mileage! I thought mine at 37k miles was too high
For 7 years not bad at all
Not crazy not even broken in
I didn’t find anything that you said an issue at all!
Where you living in mars ? 3k for insurance
Pretty normal for carbon trim
If You think, that Porsche will be better, than You need to try ... but it will be twice in price ...
Your issues are funny compared to Porsche ... 🙂
It's 1200 (Macan) to ~2500 EUR per year for a Porsche Approved warranty that you can extend for 15 years, which means it's cheaper to drive a Porsche than any other German car. Once they even changed ceramics for Panamera under warranty after many years, which was insane and blew my mind. Also, it's far less strict than Lexus which insists you buy all original parts (that are not under warranty) if you want to have Lexus warranty (for the entire car). With Porsche, you can just do break change or anything at any cheap shop for 4x less and still enjoy Porsche warranty for all but the brakes.
@@autobausspov I will check, Thank You for the info ...
Problems of people that had a lot a nice cars and they expect having a perfect car, there isn’t such a thing!
bro you are picking apart the best car in the world model year 2018-23 non-issue, yep new screen kills the flow of the interior if you have to have a screen buy an ES350...honestly I don't even hear 1st world problems...I think you should buy a Land Rover, Audi or BMW and find out what lemons are made of ha ha...they are fun but very high maintenance and huge $ to repair + don't age well
If you run your bare hands over paint you are not a car guy
You cheaped out and bought the first year model bro
True, but there were 2 lexus cars on sale in my country at that time in this color combo, for like 16 months, the other was a salvage repair
2017??????
Yep, launch model
So many experts here, who never owned one and never will. I smell coppium from lexus fanboys 🤣
You didn't buy it new and you cry about its issues? Which may be due to careless, previous owner/s!?! 🤦🏻♂️
There are countless thread on lexus forums with the same issues, people will always blame the previous or current owner, never the carmaker, which is like the craziest thing
We humans are fickle type. creatures. In the past times when every American sports and GT type car engine was.loud and thunderous, exhaust noise and high engine rev rpms were everyday normal for every young male in their 20s, muscle cars were not typically noticed, rather it was the mechanically 'advanced' smaller, exotic European engines and sounds that were desired and looked on with envy! Fast forward half a century and now that the American muscle are is the 'rare breed' everyone desires the brute force large displacement n/a engines and it is the quieter European cars that are 'taken for granted' by a lot of enthusiasts. Go figure! We always want that which we do not/not longer possess and desire to possess the things that we have/no longer have! The cycle continues!
That is disappointing to hear the problems this has. You would expect better from Lexus, especially for 6 figures.
Yep!
You have to remember that the LC is hand made. It’s low volume. Dealers don’t have much expertise around them and bespoke parts like the gearbox are really still unknowns.
Engine is however well proven
Much as I love Lexus, I always thought this was/is one of the most hideous cars I've ever seen. The plastic rear light cluster and the rear design as a whole is absolutely gopping!
I own one, no issue found yet
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