A few inaccuracies: 1. Shuri Castle was not the last stand of the Japanese forces. In late May as the US forces pushed on the Shuri Line, nearly all of the Japanese soldiers evacuated the castle, so when the Marines arrived there, they were met with little resistance, meaning these banzai attacks, mortar shell throwing and the airstrikes in the game should not happen, and thus this level is pretty much fictional. 2. The Japanese had retreated to the South of the island, not the north as Roebuck says in the opening. 3. The US Navy had been shelling the area for three days prior to the ground forces' arrival, resulting in the area being devastated. But here, these buildings seem almost intact. 4. The castle and the surrounding area in the background in the last stand section after Roebuck/Polonsky's death is based on the 1992 reconstruction of the castle. 5. Some of the American soldiers are wielding M1 Carbines that are incorrectly named the M1A1, which is a paratrooper variant with a folding stock. 6. It's unlikely to find an Arisaka with a scope attached on the ground, as Japanese soldiers were not known for their optics. 7. The way Miller is holding the M1919 is doable IRL (that is wrapping the barrel with a wet towel to hold it), but after firing 30 rounds or so the towel would catch fire and would burn it and his hand. 8. The ring iron sight on the Garand is too big.
The point about the scopes is wrong. The scope on the Arisaka type 99 is real (type 97 2.5x telescopic sight), and was mounted on Arisaka type 99 sniper variants. Plus, scoped arisakas are pretty rare in game, so it's not really innacurate
The weapons handling in this game is extremely inaccurate and you need to play a middle of Honor Pacific assault to get something far more realistic. Getting hit with an M1 Garand knocks you on the ground dead whereas the enemy can brush it off in this game. The bolt action rifle should be the most accurate weapon in the game like it is and all the middle of water games and yet for some reason Call of Duty World at War makes it the least accurate gun.
@@michel4rthur In game, scoped arisakas are found either through killing snipers or rarely by finding one kept in a stockpile, so it's not just lying around on the floor
@@theterriblepanda its actually the most PC nickname the Marines had for the Japanese in the war, there was a plethora of other nicknames that would not be considered PC today
Roebuck's death is cannon because he believed in sacrificing his life for those of his men, and it makes the ending hit harder as Miller has to grasp with being the only survivor of his Raider unit. The last of "The Old Breed".
Tojo was the prime minister and orchestrator of the Japanese invasion of Asia and the Pacific. Calling the Japanese “Tojo” (which happens a few times in WaW) is just like calling Russian soldiers “Ivan” (after the Tsar, Ivan the Terrible). But also the funny thing about Shuri Castle is that it was an acting or *the* acting military HQ after the Tokyo fire bombing (the reason for this mission happening; which I don’t know if it actually took place or got past stage 1 irl) which meant Hideki Tojo, the man, could very well have been hiding if he was among the men holding the castle. He’s also a textbook subject of the term “ultra-militarism” through which he transformed Japan and her subjects into a much darker vision of the evil Tokugawa Shogunate (a brutal and repressive medieval military dictatorship). Ironically since it actually unified feudal Japan for a time it’s kind of the trend setter for the (reduced) borders of the modern Japanese state afaik. The Rising Sun is still used by the Japanese Self Defense Forces as a naval ensign as per Japanese tradition. As far as I know it was never the official flag of Japan kinda like the swastika but the was the intention of the Swastika, the Rising Sun as an idea just represents Japan as a nation technically not particularly war and genocide. The same Sun also being Japan’s Civil banner just centered not rising. I used the Rising Sun for a little art project in High School on developing images out of negative cutouts and I added a disclaimer to my statement on it that I did not support the historical and real crimes of Japan, its military, its monarchy or its people nor do I support absolute monarchy or other dictatorships on principle. Another thing people have pointed out is Roebuck’s insistence we would all be “going home” upon mission success while the Marines had zero idea about the Manhattan Project and globally it was assumed they would participate in an invasion of the Japanese home Islands but also Roebuck could’ve just been saying it’s the hard part of their tour and he didn’t expect an invasion of Japan to be as big of a deal for Paulson’s Raiders maybe he thought they’d rotate with another unit before then once the main mission of their unit (Marine Raiders being specialized “small” island hoppers) was completed.
The final u.s mission was pretty cool yet it still felt like a kick in the balls at the last part, roebuck's death was so sudden just as the war was ending, it's sad once you see the final cutscene that shows how many people died in ww2
Decided to play this game again and never realised how brutal it was, for example throwing a grenade or killing soldiers with a mg42 or browning and their limbs get blown off and sometimes their missing their lower half, and even when the soldiers are injured and bleeding out their missing limbs, it’s a cool detail and shows how horrible the war was I wish we had more cod ww2 campaigns like this were you’re just an ordinary soldier fighting on the front lines unlike vanguard where you some secret spy going in a team of 5 and destroying everything it just takes away the atmosphere and brutality of the war.
You are correct when you say "Tojo" refers to the Japanese as a whole. Calling the Japanese "Tojo" does stem from Hideki Tojo, but it is used in the same way that people would call the Germans "Krauts"
You could throw mortars like grenades after removing the safety pin and slaming the tail against a sturdy surface. It is very dangerous as any further contact will set the mortar off, and they have a much larger kill/injury radius. You'd better throw if far. Two soldiers are credited with doing this successfully
@theterriblepanda Both known instances had the soldiers received Medals of Honor. It's something you do when you know you're screwed either way. Both survived the war. TSGT Beauford Anderson Cpl Charles Kelly
Can you do more of these? I love the conversations in the comments and I love seeing locations that’s are historically accurate like the underground HQ. You make this information so accessible
The amount of grenades is a bit of an exaggeration but I say a bit because in the pacific they had boxes full of explosives that they would toss for hours. I've read stories of Japanese soldiers throwing them out of their bunkers and caves and it felt never ending for those on the receiving end.
I really like these videos of information, for a few reasons. One is that you are also learning, it comes across differently from others, and i like that. Second is the actual information, dispite having errors occasionally it is very nice. Only complaint is short videos, but i appear to be apart of a group who is slowly dying, as long form content is on the decline, however do what you want, its nice content anyway
I try man. I’m very much learning as I make videos so I will for sure make mistakes in the future but I understand that and I don’t plan to act like I know everything either. I’m having fun learning new things though/
You can actually find a box of mortars at the area where you do your final stand. And you missed the opportunity to destroy the little sheds that were next to the mortar pits with those mortars.
bushido isnt an accurate representation of japan's society pre or post ww2, but it definitely encapsulates imperial japan during the war. Bushido was invented shortly after the west forced japan to open itself to trade, it was theorized by Japanese nationalists to romanticize historical shogunates and create a false national and moral identity that could be retroactively applied to any figure that could be seen as supporting that belief system.
Based yap, I feel that way about them not having the balls to put the swastika or rising sun in modern media, if you’re going to make a WW2 story get it right. On that note why does a symbol “offend” everyone so bad? you’re giving it the power you don’t want it to have🙄
My grandfathers uncle was an MP during the war, he was in charge of gaurding Tojo whilst under house arrest for a short period of time before being transferred to a larger prison. Pretty cool stories I’ve heard.
"what is it about social media that makes people pretend to care about things that they don't actually care about in real life?" OMG dude, you have opened up a serious can of worms, couldn't have said it better myself. Been saying for years to people about all this crap people get mad about on the internet, as soon as you put your phone away none of that shit exists anymore. It's like changing the mascot for the Washington Redskins for getting rid of the Indiana on the Land o lakes butter, anybody who actually acts like they were mad about that or were offended is completely full of crap. I believe the phrase everybody is using now is "touch grass"
Lmao no seriously. The internet has a made of up world of problems that simply are not real. This is why I try not to feed into any of the topics when I see them but good lord. Somebody help these people
@@theterriblepandaAs stated on Wikipedia: "While Japan considers the rising sun flag part of its history, many in Korea, China, Russia, Taiwan and other Asian countries say the flag is associated with Imperial Japan's wartime atrocities, the Axis of World War II, and is comparable to the flag of Imperial Japan's WWII ally, the Nazi swastika." In other words, people from those parts of the world as well as ancestors in the west my find the flag offensive. The flag is still used by Japan's Self Defense Force today, but because of it's WW2 related history it remains controversial. This is why some people may not want to go giving it to people as a tattoo, it would be like asking for a swastika tattoo to some people. That said most people in the west probably won't find the flag offensive or relate it to war-crimes. Just like the reverse is true for the swastika, the majority of the western world finds it offensive, but most of the eastern world does not. Aka it all depends on the cultural context.
4:58 ya were thinking that _Browning_ machine gun is Type 11 smh 😆. It easily gets mistaken for some people, given that this Browning machine gun is almost identical to Type 11, even though they're entirely different. Though, you can find it used on OH-58 Kiowa helicopters today as a fixed automatic helicopter cannon.
My favorite parts in this mission are spamming mortars, playing along with those playing dead, and fishing out those hiding in spider holes and banzai charging back with my own bayonet when they do. Imagine the look on the faces of those Japanese when a bullet-resistant American weeb soldier charges back at them shouting BANZAI for his favorite anime waifu. 😂
Not really. There was no fighting in the castle like in the game. Not only because all wooden buildings had been leveled by artillery and air strikes, but also because the Japanese didn't put up much defense for the castle. The Japanese began a withdrawal four days before the Marines flanked Shuri. The only resistance left in the area were rearguard units in front of the Shuri town, which was actually in the US Army's area of operations. The developers just needed a cool set piece for the final level, even if reality is much more underwhelming.
About the Twitter yapping: The platform ended up like this once the Tumblrites migrated after Tumblr's policy change on explicit content. The site (from my surface level research) is somewhat barren, with its users ranging from competent artists to Steven Universe fanatics.
A few inaccuracies:
1. Shuri Castle was not the last stand of the Japanese forces. In late May as the US forces pushed on the Shuri Line, nearly all of the Japanese soldiers evacuated the castle, so when the Marines arrived there, they were met with little resistance, meaning these banzai attacks, mortar shell throwing and the airstrikes in the game should not happen, and thus this level is pretty much fictional.
2. The Japanese had retreated to the South of the island, not the north as Roebuck says in the opening.
3. The US Navy had been shelling the area for three days prior to the ground forces' arrival, resulting in the area being devastated. But here, these buildings seem almost intact.
4. The castle and the surrounding area in the background in the last stand section after Roebuck/Polonsky's death is based on the 1992 reconstruction of the castle.
5. Some of the American soldiers are wielding M1 Carbines that are incorrectly named the M1A1, which is a paratrooper variant with a folding stock.
6. It's unlikely to find an Arisaka with a scope attached on the ground, as Japanese soldiers were not known for their optics.
7. The way Miller is holding the M1919 is doable IRL (that is wrapping the barrel with a wet towel to hold it), but after firing 30 rounds or so the towel would catch fire and would burn it and his hand.
8. The ring iron sight on the Garand is too big.
The point about the scopes is wrong. The scope on the Arisaka type 99 is real (type 97 2.5x telescopic sight), and was mounted on Arisaka type 99 sniper variants. Plus, scoped arisakas are pretty rare in game, so it's not really innacurate
The weapons handling in this game is extremely inaccurate and you need to play a middle of Honor Pacific assault to get something far more realistic.
Getting hit with an M1 Garand knocks you on the ground dead whereas the enemy can brush it off in this game.
The bolt action rifle should be the most accurate weapon in the game like it is and all the middle of water games and yet for some reason Call of Duty World at War makes it the least accurate gun.
@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay What do you mean about the bolt actions
@@ahmadsuleman9045 I didn't say the scopes were wrong; I only said finding one laying on the ground is highly unlikely.
@@michel4rthur In game, scoped arisakas are found either through killing snipers or rarely by finding one kept in a stockpile, so it's not just lying around on the floor
He called the Japanese soldiers Tojo. As a nickname, grouping them all together like how one would call German soldiers, Krouts.
Vietnam war Charlie aka Vietnamese soldiers
@brandonrogers8621 Charlie referred to Viet Cong, whose NATO phonetic alphabet would be referred to as "Victor Charles."
Mmm ok that’s what I was wondering but I wasn’t sure if that was a thing
@@theterriblepanda its actually the most PC nickname the Marines had for the Japanese in the war, there was a plethora of other nicknames that would not be considered PC today
Yeah hit it on the nail, this is used in the HBO miniseries 'The Pacific' as well. It's a derogatory nickname for Japanese soldiers
Roebuck's death is cannon because he believed in sacrificing his life for those of his men, and it makes the ending hit harder as Miller has to grasp with being the only survivor of his Raider unit. The last of "The Old Breed".
"only survivor of his Raider Unit"
Polonski:
@@vinteb7987 Polonsky wasn't in the first mission
@@paolot440 oh
Roebuck’s corpse or at least texture is seen in Black Ops 1 mission Rebirth, he survived ww2 in canon
Also in zombies mission Five
Some of the OG COD missions hit you like a ton of bricks. Man, they knew how to do storytelling telling back then.
Nah fr u will be enjoying your self den watch a cutscene nd dat shit hits u
Tojo was the prime minister and orchestrator of the Japanese invasion of Asia and the Pacific. Calling the Japanese “Tojo” (which happens a few times in WaW) is just like calling Russian soldiers “Ivan” (after the Tsar, Ivan the Terrible). But also the funny thing about Shuri Castle is that it was an acting or *the* acting military HQ after the Tokyo fire bombing (the reason for this mission happening; which I don’t know if it actually took place or got past stage 1 irl) which meant Hideki Tojo, the man, could very well have been hiding if he was among the men holding the castle. He’s also a textbook subject of the term “ultra-militarism” through which he transformed Japan and her subjects into a much darker vision of the evil Tokugawa Shogunate (a brutal and repressive medieval military dictatorship). Ironically since it actually unified feudal Japan for a time it’s kind of the trend setter for the (reduced) borders of the modern Japanese state afaik.
The Rising Sun is still used by the Japanese Self Defense Forces as a naval ensign as per Japanese tradition. As far as I know it was never the official flag of Japan kinda like the swastika but the was the intention of the Swastika, the Rising Sun as an idea just represents Japan as a nation technically not particularly war and genocide. The same Sun also being Japan’s Civil banner just centered not rising. I used the Rising Sun for a little art project in High School on developing images out of negative cutouts and I added a disclaimer to my statement on it that I did not support the historical and real crimes of Japan, its military, its monarchy or its people nor do I support absolute monarchy or other dictatorships on principle.
Another thing people have pointed out is Roebuck’s insistence we would all be “going home” upon mission success while the Marines had zero idea about the Manhattan Project and globally it was assumed they would participate in an invasion of the Japanese home Islands but also Roebuck could’ve just been saying it’s the hard part of their tour and he didn’t expect an invasion of Japan to be as big of a deal for Paulson’s Raiders maybe he thought they’d rotate with another unit before then once the main mission of their unit (Marine Raiders being specialized “small” island hoppers) was completed.
Honestly, a well-respected "yap". I agree with you 100% on that. Good video all around, boss. Keep it up.
W pal
Them 4 smoke grenades are so important when playing veteran on this game man
I never realized how useful they actually where lmao
The final u.s mission was pretty cool yet it still felt like a kick in the balls at the last part, roebuck's death was so sudden just as the war was ending, it's sad once you see the final cutscene that shows how many people died in ww2
This game is so damn hard on veteran, the last couple missions are a brutal test of patience
Seriously lmao. You have to really take ur time when playing to survive
Man, I love this videos of someone playing my fav CoD and yapping about stuff. Reminds me of the good ol' times of yt but with higher quality
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Decided to play this game again and never realised how brutal it was, for example throwing a grenade or killing soldiers with a mg42 or browning and their limbs get blown off and sometimes their missing their lower half, and even when the soldiers are injured and bleeding out their missing limbs, it’s a cool detail and shows how horrible the war was I wish we had more cod ww2 campaigns like this were you’re just an ordinary soldier fighting on the front lines unlike vanguard where you some secret spy going in a team of 5 and destroying everything it just takes away the atmosphere and brutality of the war.
You are correct when you say "Tojo" refers to the Japanese as a whole. Calling the Japanese "Tojo" does stem from Hideki Tojo, but it is used in the same way that people would call the Germans "Krauts"
That makes sense, appreciate the comment
You could throw mortars like grenades after removing the safety pin and slaming the tail against a sturdy surface.
It is very dangerous as any further contact will set the mortar off, and they have a much larger kill/injury radius. You'd better throw if far. Two soldiers are credited with doing this successfully
Sounds dangerous as hell
@theterriblepanda Both known instances had the soldiers received Medals of Honor. It's something you do when you know you're screwed either way. Both survived the war.
TSGT Beauford Anderson
Cpl Charles Kelly
@@jamalwilburn228 This was also done multiple times across the pacific. Eugene sledge mentions that during the Battle of Peliuliu in his book.
Can you do more of these? I love the conversations in the comments and I love seeing locations that’s are historically accurate like the underground HQ. You make this information so accessible
Fun fact:The Rising sun flag is still used by the JMSDF (Japan maritime self defense force)
Thank you for the facts sir
Another fun fact. They remove the flag when doing exercises with Korea for obvious reasons.
My favorite cod game, the summer of 2009 was amazing because of all the dlc maps and zombies.
Great vid. Love how you post a long form every couple weeks to a month
Thanks man. I enjoy making them when I get the time. Appreciate ya!
The amount of grenades is a bit of an exaggeration but I say a bit because in the pacific they had boxes full of explosives that they would toss for hours. I've read stories of Japanese soldiers throwing them out of their bunkers and caves and it felt never ending for those on the receiving end.
I guess they really wanted to make the player feel how men felt during these times
I really like these videos of information, for a few reasons. One is that you are also learning, it comes across differently from others, and i like that. Second is the actual information, dispite having errors occasionally it is very nice. Only complaint is short videos, but i appear to be apart of a group who is slowly dying, as long form content is on the decline, however do what you want, its nice content anyway
As someone with a great interest in firearms, I love how you correct yourself :)
I try man. I’m very much learning as I make videos so I will for sure make mistakes in the future but I understand that and I don’t plan to act like I know everything either. I’m having fun learning new things though/
To boost there kd so it looks good back to the men in suits. This is the problem with only caring about numbers
You can actually find a box of mortars at the area where you do your final stand.
And you missed the opportunity to destroy the little sheds that were next to the mortar pits with those mortars.
04:49 I saw what you did
bushido isnt an accurate representation of japan's society pre or post ww2, but it definitely encapsulates imperial japan during the war. Bushido was invented shortly after the west forced japan to open itself to trade, it was theorized by Japanese nationalists to romanticize historical shogunates and create a false national and moral identity that could be retroactively applied to any figure that could be seen as supporting that belief system.
Based yap, I feel that way about them not having the balls to put the swastika or rising sun in modern media, if you’re going to make a WW2 story get it right. On that note why does a symbol “offend” everyone so bad? you’re giving it the power you don’t want it to have🙄
Exactly. The same people that will act like they are so against it are the same people that give it so much power
This video is the definition of good quality, keep it up king
Appreciate you! W pal
My grandfathers uncle was an MP during the war, he was in charge of gaurding Tojo whilst under house arrest for a short period of time before being transferred to a larger prison. Pretty cool stories I’ve heard.
That’s cool man to get to hear some stories from somebody like that
Yes more historical facts or what ever it is your doing great job keep it up :)
Please post more I really like these type of videos you be posting 🙏
I like this video could of the Japanese could or won it i don't know history only repeats itself thank you 😊☺☺☺☺
"what is it about social media that makes people pretend to care about things that they don't actually care about in real life?" OMG dude, you have opened up a serious can of worms, couldn't have said it better myself. Been saying for years to people about all this crap people get mad about on the internet, as soon as you put your phone away none of that shit exists anymore. It's like changing the mascot for the Washington Redskins for getting rid of the Indiana on the Land o lakes butter, anybody who actually acts like they were mad about that or were offended is completely full of crap. I believe the phrase everybody is using now is "touch grass"
Lmao no seriously. The internet has a made of up world of problems that simply are not real. This is why I try not to feed into any of the topics when I see them but good lord. Somebody help these people
@@theterriblepandaAs stated on Wikipedia: "While Japan considers the rising sun flag part of its history, many in Korea, China, Russia, Taiwan and other Asian countries say the flag is associated with Imperial Japan's wartime atrocities, the Axis of World War II, and is comparable to the flag of Imperial Japan's WWII ally, the Nazi swastika." In other words, people from those parts of the world as well as ancestors in the west my find the flag offensive. The flag is still used by Japan's Self Defense Force today, but because of it's WW2 related history it remains controversial. This is why some people may not want to go giving it to people as a tattoo, it would be like asking for a swastika tattoo to some people. That said most people in the west probably won't find the flag offensive or relate it to war-crimes. Just like the reverse is true for the swastika, the majority of the western world finds it offensive, but most of the eastern world does not. Aka it all depends on the cultural context.
@@jacobdonny7586OK
@@jacobdonny7586it still really don't matter that much today tho
4:58 ya were thinking that _Browning_ machine gun is Type 11 smh 😆.
It easily gets mistaken for some people, given that this Browning machine gun is almost identical to Type 11, even though they're entirely different. Though, you can find it used on OH-58 Kiowa helicopters today as a fixed automatic helicopter cannon.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁😀
ice saved both polonsky and roe buck and i didnt knoe it was a choive until i played it agian
Love the WAW content
My favorite parts in this mission are spamming mortars, playing along with those playing dead, and fishing out those hiding in spider holes and banzai charging back with my own bayonet when they do. Imagine the look on the faces of those Japanese when a bullet-resistant American weeb soldier charges back at them shouting BANZAI for his favorite anime waifu. 😂
Banzai charging as a American is insane 😭
need a new one soon😫😫
Bushido way of The samurai
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VE Day + 3 weeks and Pacific theatre still raging on, must have been horrible
Love the content
Appreciate you
nice point at the end
Yo nice pfp
Thanks pal
If only they had brain cells and realized they’d do a lot more damage if they all got on the same page
was there actually a battle at the castle?
Yes, and by the end, around 60% Of the castle was damaged or destroyed
I believe so yea. It also has been rebuilt and preserved for people to visit.
Not really. There was no fighting in the castle like in the game. Not only because all wooden buildings had been leveled by artillery and air strikes, but also because the Japanese didn't put up much defense for the castle. The Japanese began a withdrawal four days before the Marines flanked Shuri. The only resistance left in the area were rearguard units in front of the Shuri town, which was actually in the US Army's area of operations.
The developers just needed a cool set piece for the final level, even if reality is much more underwhelming.
Still, there were a few fire fights. but yeah it wasn't really anything@@redaug4212
why do i feel like that this is going to blow up
it better not. ima get nervous
1:30 it’s a slur lol
incroyable 😱
Off topic, but can you a put a Discord link that doesn’t expire?
Got you, my bad discord.gg/mj35XG85pB
@@theterriblepanda Thanks
About the Twitter yapping: The platform ended up like this once the Tumblrites migrated after Tumblr's policy change on explicit content. The site (from my surface level research) is somewhat barren, with its users ranging from competent artists to Steven Universe fanatics.
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W yap, w vid, w roebuck, w guy
W pal here.☝️great guy here one of the best ☝️Somebody get this guy a drink