In this video we further analyze images reoriented around the pelvis, ribcage, and skull to see what else they can help us understand about getting out of bad postural habits. I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits? In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works. For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/ You can contact me at: DelsarteAlexanderMasoeroYou@protonmail.com "There is so much to be seen when one reaches the point of being able to see, and the experience makes the meat it feeds on." F.M. Alexander
bro your thinkin is so out of this world your knowledge is very special i had problems with temporal nerve and left shoulder and nothing helped but when i started to realign my body my pain almost completly disapered instant subscriber i am sure your videos will help me even more
Your view on posture is interesting. Contrary to what it seems given it's 2024, we probably still have many misconceptions about how our bodies work considering, for instance, the shoes we use which seem to be really badly designed, the apparent lack of full understanding of facial development in the field of dentistry and the fact that up until 10 years or so we still thought the appendix wasn't of much importance. When it comes to posture nobody seems to fully understand what it should look like either so I wouldn't be surprised if you were onto something. It would be cool if other experts could react to your videos and get some discussion going about this so as to increase the popularity of this idea and hopefully improve general understanding of the topic, confirming whether or not this viewpoint has validity, since now it seems that there have only been a handful of people throughout the years that have shared your view on posture. I have a question too: The posture you describe as ideal looks to me like a more "ape" posture if that makes sense, didn't we adopt a more curved posture of the spine, at least when standing, because of our much more frequent bipedal habits like running, walking and standing for long periods of time compared to apes? Isn't a curved spine more efficient in giving support to the body in these circumstances?
Strangely, how we use our body is something that has not been studied well by modern science. It was a field dominated by artists and thinkers throughout the 18th-20th centuries, and many interesting propositions and hypotheses were put forward. Yet scientists are, for the most part, locked into the concepts of the mid to late 20th Century, despite these concepts having very little practical or experimental backing. Similar to what happened in dentistry, whatever is common is deemed to be appropriate, and so crowded teeth are considered normal as is poor posture. People looking for help are guided towards the “average,” but the average person has back pain and rather poor posture. Unfortunately, many people get fed up and assume posture is either too abstract to understand or something that is unfixable. I, of course, welcome discussion and debate. It’s commonly said that the curves of the spine are essential, yet if you look for an explanation of why, you’ll find there is very little even in the way of an argument. Further, everyone agrees too much bend of the lumbar spine, for instance, is a problem. In the model I support, there is a small curve to the lumbar spine (which is visible in x-ray, but not visible under the muscle and fascia) as well as a curve at the upper end. The basis for the model is what will lengthen the fascia of the body. If you pull your lower ribs too far back, for instance, you will round the back, lose height, and lose the support of your thoracolumbar fascia. If you push your lower ribs too far forward (as most people do when standing), you will hollow your back, lose height, and lose the support of your fascia. The model I use (which comes from Jeando Masoero) is based around getting the maximum height through lengthening, so that the fascia is taut and not slack. When the fascia is taut, the muscles have more mechanical advantage (since they get their leverage from the fascia that they’re connected to). Another thing to consider is that the “ape” like quality you seen in the model I use is possibly due in part to the fact that it is sort of inside out compared to the standard model of posture. Our eyes are conditioned to what we’re used to seeing. That’s part of what this video is about. We might not see how bent a person in the standard model is, or that their head is tipped back and their ear is angled, because that’s what we’ve always seen as “right.” Seeing something different naturally seems wrong. I’ve of course spent a lot of time looking at others and myself, specifically from a 90 degree angle, and to me, the standard model looks very drooped and bent. The point being, our mental model and our past experience colors our interpretation of a posture.
Please do a video about what how posture is interconnected with the bite… and what comes first? Bite or Posture? Im suffering from severe lateral Pelvic Tilt which affects quality of life tremendously, but I am aware there is a root cause such as a sensory issue.. somewhere with the bite and jaw being interconnected with the pelvis
Exactly. The bite has a direct effect on posture imo. When there is lack of posterior dental height the skull collapses inward and crushes the brain, the neck suffers too. When there is sufficient posterior height in molars the skull expends outwards. I don’t know why no one is talking about that.
I don’t know that “what comes first?” is really the relevant question. In my view, a problem anywhere is a problem everywhere. You cannot, for instance, have severe lateral pelvic tilt without also having a tilt of the ribcage, problems in the limbs, and problems in the breathing mechanism/mouth/head/neck. There is not one problem that is causing all the others. All the problems are connected because the human body is all connected and must compensate to keep from falling over. That said, I do not see how correcting your bite could correct your pelvis. While correcting the bite could surely be beneficial to the pelvis and the rest of the body, it’s not going to fix how you’re using your pelvis. In my view, working with the torso (from the bottom of the pelvis to the top of the ribcage) is primary because it’s the largest and heaviest section of the body, and the all the other parts of the body connect to it. I would expect working with both the pelvis and the ribcage to help with the bite, though I wouldn’t expect it to completely solve the problem. When the torso is lengthened and sturdy, it will support your neck and head in a way that it is not when it’s twisted and shortened. Further work on the neck, head, jaw, tongue would be needed, but getting control of your torso would provide a starting point from which you could begin to take control over the jaw.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 correcting your bite will have an effect on pelvis as people who got jaw surgery found their asymmetries in various parts of their bodies go away
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147look into this device called starecta and the theory behind it- how the teeth act as a lever for the cranium also ppl who get wisdom teeth or premolars pulled out have negative effects on their facial structure and posture
I often feel like the people in the photos: if I fix one section, the others don’t follow suit. Shoulders relaxed in neutral rib cage? Ilia forward and down! Ilia pulled up and back? Rib cage rotated posterior and head pulled back… had I only listened to Madame Bertherat years ago I might not be in this predicament!
Yes that’s tricky part. If you pull in one direction without an antagonistic pull, you’ll correct yourself in one direction while getting worse at the other end. That’s why I would say the biggest skill to develop in correcting your posture is being able to give yourself multiple directions at once. Two is good, three is better, and a dozen is right on. 😂
@@TheBrucepix One thought that may or may not be helpful is that sometimes when we are overdoing one direction and losing the other, it’s because we’re trying to really feel the direction we’re overdoing. Then we notice we’re missing the other direction, so we try to feel that one too. If you can put the directions into action without needing to feel that you’re doing them, you may find that you're better able to do the two together. You may not, in the moment, feel like you are, but you can verify with visual feedback.
I've always had problems with my 2 retroclined upper central incisors. I tried to chin tuck for a few months inconsistently, but couldn't see any difference except in my skull, where the protruding top part seemed to have moved slightly forward. I've figured, after watching your videos, that I should let go of my tuck and bring my maxilla up and forward, so I also slightly tipped my head up, which helped with my retruded mandible look (caused by the tipped in incisors). In this video, you talk about not doing that due to the effect of the gravity, which makes sense. Would you think that having the head as shown in the video, combined with the movements you previously taught, could correct my issue in time, or do you have any suggestions?
Getting the head and the torso in the correct orientation and relative positions will tend to have a normalizing affect on the entire structure of the body from the jaw, to the maxilla, to the ribcage and beyond. The bite can be improved, but I can’t say for certain it would correct your issue with your incisors. In my opinion, it probably could, depending on your age and how seriously you implement your directions to improve your posture.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 I have a slight thought that my lip and cheek muscles are involved. I've lately been trying to relax my lips and distance them from the teeth, but it's a long process to see any results
The bite has a direct effect on posture imo. When there is lack of posterior dental height the skull collapses inward and crushes the brain, the neck suffers too. When there is sufficient posterior height in molars the skull expends outwards. I don’t know why no one is talking about that.
We do use a direction for lifting what we call the “upper wisdom tooth” spot up away from the lower wisdom teeth, and also forward of the lower wisdom teeth. But I’m not sure that the bite is causing the skull to collapse so much as the skull collapsing causes the bite problems.
When you say outwards do you mean forward? Most people are already lifting the front of their chest too much, which coincides with the back of the chest being rotated back and down. You do want to lift the upper end of the ribcage forward and up when you bring the lower end of the ribcage back and up.
Not for the better, I don’t think. From what I’ve seen, hypopressive breathing asks you to cultivate rather poor habits of breathing. I would not recommend expanding the abdomen and the front of the lower ribs, or dropping the pelvic floor while breathing in. In my view, good breathing is a result of good posture. Breathing exercises are typically misguided in that they have very little care for what you’re doing with your posture as you do the exercise. If your pelvis is spilled forward and your ribcage is tilted back the whole time you’re doing the exercise, you will certainly not be improving your posture, and in all reality, you’ll be making your breathing worse.
Essentially every image is portraying poor posture. I reorient the images based around either the skull, ribcage, or pelvis. This makes that one part of the body correctly oriented, which makes it easier to see how the other parts are misoriented.
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In this video we further analyze images reoriented around the pelvis, ribcage, and skull to see what else they can help us understand about getting out of bad postural habits.
I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits?
In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works.
For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/
You can contact me at: DelsarteAlexanderMasoeroYou@protonmail.com
"There is so much to be seen when one reaches the point of being able to see, and the experience makes the meat it feeds on."
F.M. Alexander
What's the point of this video? Which posture is good? What is bad? This isn't clear
bro your thinkin is so out of this world your knowledge is very special i had problems with temporal nerve and left shoulder and nothing helped but when i started to realign my body my pain almost completly disapered instant subscriber i am sure your videos will help me even more
Yes! You put the part about the skull orientation I was talking about in a few videos back.
Yup, that's why I said you got a little ahead of me!
This information is precious, man!
Your view on posture is interesting. Contrary to what it seems given it's 2024, we probably still have many misconceptions about how our bodies work considering, for instance, the shoes we use which seem to be really badly designed, the apparent lack of full understanding of facial development in the field of dentistry and the fact that up until 10 years or so we still thought the appendix wasn't of much importance. When it comes to posture nobody seems to fully understand what it should look like either so I wouldn't be surprised if you were onto something.
It would be cool if other experts could react to your videos and get some discussion going about this so as to increase the popularity of this idea and hopefully improve general understanding of the topic, confirming whether or not this viewpoint has validity, since now it seems that there have only been a handful of people throughout the years that have shared your view on posture.
I have a question too: The posture you describe as ideal looks to me like a more "ape" posture if that makes sense, didn't we adopt a more curved posture of the spine, at least when standing, because of our much more frequent bipedal habits like running, walking and standing for long periods of time compared to apes? Isn't a curved spine more efficient in giving support to the body in these circumstances?
Strangely, how we use our body is something that has not been studied well by modern science. It was a field dominated by artists and thinkers throughout the 18th-20th centuries, and many interesting propositions and hypotheses were put forward. Yet scientists are, for the most part, locked into the concepts of the mid to late 20th Century, despite these concepts having very little practical or experimental backing. Similar to what happened in dentistry, whatever is common is deemed to be appropriate, and so crowded teeth are considered normal as is poor posture. People looking for help are guided towards the “average,” but the average person has back pain and rather poor posture. Unfortunately, many people get fed up and assume posture is either too abstract to understand or something that is unfixable. I, of course, welcome discussion and debate.
It’s commonly said that the curves of the spine are essential, yet if you look for an explanation of why, you’ll find there is very little even in the way of an argument. Further, everyone agrees too much bend of the lumbar spine, for instance, is a problem. In the model I support, there is a small curve to the lumbar spine (which is visible in x-ray, but not visible under the muscle and fascia) as well as a curve at the upper end. The basis for the model is what will lengthen the fascia of the body.
If you pull your lower ribs too far back, for instance, you will round the back, lose height, and lose the support of your thoracolumbar fascia. If you push your lower ribs too far forward (as most people do when standing), you will hollow your back, lose height, and lose the support of your fascia. The model I use (which comes from Jeando Masoero) is based around getting the maximum height through lengthening, so that the fascia is taut and not slack. When the fascia is taut, the muscles have more mechanical advantage (since they get their leverage from the fascia that they’re connected to).
Another thing to consider is that the “ape” like quality you seen in the model I use is possibly due in part to the fact that it is sort of inside out compared to the standard model of posture. Our eyes are conditioned to what we’re used to seeing. That’s part of what this video is about. We might not see how bent a person in the standard model is, or that their head is tipped back and their ear is angled, because that’s what we’ve always seen as “right.” Seeing something different naturally seems wrong. I’ve of course spent a lot of time looking at others and myself, specifically from a 90 degree angle, and to me, the standard model looks very drooped and bent. The point being, our mental model and our past experience colors our interpretation of a posture.
Please do a video about what how posture is interconnected with the bite… and what comes first? Bite or Posture? Im suffering from severe lateral Pelvic Tilt which affects quality of life tremendously, but I am aware there is a root cause such as a sensory issue.. somewhere with the bite and jaw being interconnected with the pelvis
Exactly. The bite has a direct effect on posture imo. When there is lack of posterior dental height the skull collapses inward and crushes the brain, the neck suffers too. When there is sufficient posterior height in molars the skull expends outwards. I don’t know why no one is talking about that.
I don’t know that “what comes first?” is really the relevant question. In my view, a problem anywhere is a problem everywhere. You cannot, for instance, have severe lateral pelvic tilt without also having a tilt of the ribcage, problems in the limbs, and problems in the breathing mechanism/mouth/head/neck. There is not one problem that is causing all the others. All the problems are connected because the human body is all connected and must compensate to keep from falling over.
That said, I do not see how correcting your bite could correct your pelvis. While correcting the bite could surely be beneficial to the pelvis and the rest of the body, it’s not going to fix how you’re using your pelvis. In my view, working with the torso (from the bottom of the pelvis to the top of the ribcage) is primary because it’s the largest and heaviest section of the body, and the all the other parts of the body connect to it.
I would expect working with both the pelvis and the ribcage to help with the bite, though I wouldn’t expect it to completely solve the problem. When the torso is lengthened and sturdy, it will support your neck and head in a way that it is not when it’s twisted and shortened. Further work on the neck, head, jaw, tongue would be needed, but getting control of your torso would provide a starting point from which you could begin to take control over the jaw.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 correcting your bite will have an effect on pelvis as people who got jaw surgery found their asymmetries in various parts of their bodies go away
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147look into this device called starecta and the theory behind it- how the teeth act as a lever for the cranium
also ppl who get wisdom teeth or premolars pulled out have negative effects on their facial structure and posture
Ya you are right size of head too Increases
@@Andreylarin1
Yes, this was very helpful. I was recently diagnosed with CM1 so looking for anything that could possibly help until approved for surgery. Thanks.
When i find your channel i feel like i found another me bro trust me these nice & back posture is absolutely B S
I often feel like the people in the photos: if I fix one section, the others don’t follow suit. Shoulders relaxed in neutral rib cage? Ilia forward and down! Ilia pulled up and back? Rib cage rotated posterior and head pulled back… had I only listened to Madame Bertherat years ago I might not be in this predicament!
Yes that’s tricky part. If you pull in one direction without an antagonistic pull, you’ll correct yourself in one direction while getting worse at the other end. That’s why I would say the biggest skill to develop in correcting your posture is being able to give yourself multiple directions at once. Two is good, three is better, and a dozen is right on. 😂
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 yeah, I’ve noticed!! Why does simplicity have to be so complicated!?!
@@TheBrucepix One thought that may or may not be helpful is that sometimes when we are overdoing one direction and losing the other, it’s because we’re trying to really feel the direction we’re overdoing. Then we notice we’re missing the other direction, so we try to feel that one too. If you can put the directions into action without needing to feel that you’re doing them, you may find that you're better able to do the two together. You may not, in the moment, feel like you are, but you can verify with visual feedback.
Anyone explain me the right way
I've always had problems with my 2 retroclined upper central incisors. I tried to chin tuck for a few months inconsistently, but couldn't see any difference except in my skull, where the protruding top part seemed to have moved slightly forward. I've figured, after watching your videos, that I should let go of my tuck and bring my maxilla up and forward, so I also slightly tipped my head up, which helped with my retruded mandible look (caused by the tipped in incisors). In this video, you talk about not doing that due to the effect of the gravity, which makes sense. Would you think that having the head as shown in the video, combined with the movements you previously taught, could correct my issue in time, or do you have any suggestions?
Getting the head and the torso in the correct orientation and relative positions will tend to have a normalizing affect on the entire structure of the body from the jaw, to the maxilla, to the ribcage and beyond. The bite can be improved, but I can’t say for certain it would correct your issue with your incisors. In my opinion, it probably could, depending on your age and how seriously you implement your directions to improve your posture.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 I have a slight thought that my lip and cheek muscles are involved. I've lately been trying to relax my lips and distance them from the teeth, but it's a long process to see any results
Would any height gain occur after changing to the posture you are suggesting?
Yes, it produces a small but easily visible increase in height (which can be seen by taking video/pictures).
The bite has a direct effect on posture imo. When there is lack of posterior dental height the skull collapses inward and crushes the brain, the neck suffers too. When there is sufficient posterior height in molars the skull expends outwards. I don’t know why no one is talking about that.
We do use a direction for lifting what we call the “upper wisdom tooth” spot up away from the lower wisdom teeth, and also forward of the lower wisdom teeth. But I’m not sure that the bite is causing the skull to collapse so much as the skull collapsing causes the bite problems.
Chin tucks is good or bad for posture?? Plz reply
Go through the material
No he said in one of the videos you can't just work on the neck but the torso and the back
Short answer: Bad.
Here's the long answer in video form: ruclips.net/video/i9Y1UTLtijI/видео.html
So can we pull our chest outwards instead of pulling your arms back !?
When you say outwards do you mean forward? Most people are already lifting the front of their chest too much, which coincides with the back of the chest being rotated back and down. You do want to lift the upper end of the ribcage forward and up when you bring the lower end of the ribcage back and up.
Can hypopressive breathing change my posture ?
Not for the better, I don’t think. From what I’ve seen, hypopressive breathing asks you to cultivate rather poor habits of breathing. I would not recommend expanding the abdomen and the front of the lower ribs, or dropping the pelvic floor while breathing in. In my view, good breathing is a result of good posture. Breathing exercises are typically misguided in that they have very little care for what you’re doing with your posture as you do the exercise. If your pelvis is spilled forward and your ribcage is tilted back the whole time you’re doing the exercise, you will certainly not be improving your posture, and in all reality, you’ll be making your breathing worse.
I do not understand what is good and what is bad
Essentially every image is portraying poor posture. I reorient the images based around either the skull, ribcage, or pelvis. This makes that one part of the body correctly oriented, which makes it easier to see how the other parts are misoriented.
Exactly. Didn't understand the point of this video
Bro you have to be clear with your videos.. You are not telling clearly what to do and what not to do