Well that's a bugger. Reminded me of the time I'd just left a campsite in Cornwall on my BMW R65 to head back home to Lancs. The gear linkage broke just after I'd got on the road. It was a little straight rod with a right angle at each end held in by spring clips. It had snapped in the middle. Luckily, I managed to fashion a replacement using a tent peg, some pliers and the saw blade on my multi-tool penknife. Got me all the way home and lasted until one of the engineering bods at work made me a nice replacement connecting rod.
Never heard of a gear linkage shearing off gear shift lever before . Had Hondas & Suzukis up to 20 years old ,with no signs of the gear linkage breaking . Happen it’s wise for us bikers to carry a spare or at least some way of sorting a get you home fix . I would also suggest in the time you took fart arsing around with nerdy tech screen gubbins on CF 800 ,you could have been well on your way 5 to 10 miles down the road & enjoying the scenery much earlier . 👍
Glad it was something external, (and easy/cheap to remedy), rather than something that required opening up the engine to fix. The roads round your way are fantastic to ride but I wouldn't want to be stranded on some of the more remote examples!
V7 owner myself, quality of a lot of the fixings leaves a lot to be desired to be honest. I’ve gradually gone round and replaced a lot of bits such as header nuts etc. Moto Guzzi’s customers have been acting as their R+D dept for a 100 years😂, I still love mine.
I’m not familiar with the bike market, but I’m aware of some very low quality in fixtures and fittings at present time. Stainless products such as spokes are cracking. Bolts are not to the required strength etc. Many fixtures and fittings come from China and unless they are checked and tested on delivery can be very inferior, but cheap. With one of my competitors, they found a fuse from China actually failed at over 20amps above the indicated figure. Needless to say, no more came from China. On tests we found Chinese electrical cables were of very poor quality with too much alloy content resulting with overheating. Manufacturers around the world look to reducing production costs but sometimes this results in reliability issues.
@@Judith-c6r if you have replaced with stainless, that is the wrong grade. Steel fixings are supposed to stretch (under the torque wrench) so they stay tight; stainless does not stretch, if you tighten it to the point it will stay tight, it will break rather than stretch. We want 'automotive grade' fixings, stronger than diy and building trade grades, but with the correct stretch. They can be 'rust-free' rather than austenitic stainless steel; or wipe with the oily rag.
@ no I’ve not converted to stainless but some bike wheels have stainless spokes which can crack as they have limited flex. Bolts are designed to do a specific job as are all fixings, but unfortunately when outsourced these products are not always manufactured to the correct specifications , that is why “goods inwards” should be checked for specification and grading.
@@Judith-c6r the 'limited flex' is down to them being generic stainless. There are thousands of grades of steel and many, many types of 'stainless'. This is why the grade must be specified. The mind-boggling exhaustive British Standard series got adopted as the international standard (ISO). Steel stock is usually bought with a certificate of conformity. And then there's the chinese.
It's all part of Moto Guzzi ownership as the saying goes, Moto Guzzi been making mechanics for over a hundred years. That's why we love them it connects you to the very knowledgeable community and to your bike. I have a 08 1200 sport that had the famous startus intreruptas fault an easy fix, but what other manufactures owners would give faults there own name , a weird lot we may be but once your hooked that's it.
Sorry to hear the Guzzi let you down. Always happy to see you riding in the Yorkshire hills, some marvellous scenery. Living in Bedfordshire, we are not blessed with much hilly scenery, but today we are having a ride out to the Dunstable Downs, which has some splendid views 😀. Always great to hear your Yorkshire accent and your choice of words when explaining any situation, look forward to the next video 👍
I love motorcycles, but long ago concluded that the fancy style of Italian bikes is simply not worth the price of admission or the unending serious of stuff that seems to happen. The J-4 offerings may lack soul, but getting to my destination reliably and safely without spending every dime I’ve earned, is also a priority.
If you just need transport then I must agree with you, but a Moto Guzzi has a feel that few other bikes can offer. Are they the best bikes in the world - absolutely not, but they are not in any way bland and lifeless.
I've had 2 California 1100s in the past. Lovely , but the gear linkage is a pain in the bum. It never actually failed completely, but quite often I couldn't get first gear. It was just wear in the ball joints. Very common issue I understand.I replaced the full linkage on both bikes with parts from Guzzibits. They're over Huddersfield way & are very reasonable price wise. Personally with yours I'd have claimed on the warranty.
Bad luck that, but Guzzi won’t be manufacturing their own gear linkages, it’ll be a generic item, and that’s probably not going to invalidate your warranty. Buy 2 and keep one handy for next time. Surely there’s some way of selecting 3rd gear manually if you need to? Love the Fred Trueman sign-off!
Glad the Guzzi will be an easy fix Dave. I'll bet you'll be up and running even before your next vid is out😊 Every time you take us along your moors rides, there's something else to see. The changing seasons, different weather and the bike of choice, always bring a fresh take to each and every trip you take us on. Selfishly, I'd love to see you repeat the Scar House Reservoir run, before Kelly and I can do it for ourselves next year 😊
Were you standing on the gearshift lever?!! Quite shocking! My new 2023 V7 Stone lasted less than 300 miles last year! The engine exploded on the highway with no warning. Something shot through the front of the engine (flywheel, crankshaft?) and all of the engine oil burst out. I was in the left lane of I-95 in Miami and had to cross three lanes to my right at 70 mph with oil on my boots and the bike tires! Almost caused a fire in extreme outside heat. Massive white smoke. I parked on roadside and ran like hell! I pressured Piaggio customer care in NYC to replace bike. They did so. Second bike still okay at 3,500 miles.
Glad you weren't totally stranded! It's funny how the quality of service can vary so much between different dealers, Appleyards must be a shrewd outfit, they know you'll use them again in the future! I'll certainly consider using them in the future, perhaps if I mention you I'll get the same gold standard of service, lol. I like the routes you cover as being fairly new to North Yorks I'm getting some great places to check out! Really enjoying your channel, cheers!
Glad i watched this, checked my v7 stone 2024 less than 300mls and the offending linkage bolt was loose, going to thread lock it and keep an eye on it, probably worth checking all the other joints, surly Moto Guzzi know about this problem, been on the forums and its not uncommon, also the parts are not easy to get hold off, doesn't inspire long trips with this in the back of your mind, great vid as always, cheers.
The same thing happened to my kxt1200 BMW due to rust (the bike came from the heavily salted roads of Scotland), I fixed it by finding and adapting a longer bolt with the same thread and cutting it. Repair cost peanuts, but I was lucky it happened at home. Main lesson learned only buy bikes or cars from areas with little to no salt or owners who ride or drive in decent weather. I now live in the south of France, no salt or snow so my bikes and cars stay clear of the dreaded rust😊
the thing about Guzzis, is that they are easy to fix in most cases, 21 years with mine , only regular problem, those poxy valeo starter motors, water gets into them, so I seal all the electrical entries with silicon grease
Welcome to the real Guzzi riders club, their gear linkages have been an issue since the stone age. My 76 lemans look alike got stuck in 2nd recently like yourself got it home with large clutch slippage and a modicum of luck, hence this occurrence made me chuckle, in my case the selector had rattled off the selector splined shaft, the Guzzi habit of rattling everything loose including your fillings had struck again 😂, best of luck with the repairs, I look forward to seeing the Guzzis return soon.
Hi Dave sorry to hear your Guzzi let you down. I’ve never owned a new Guzzi but I couldn’t help noticing how clunky the gearchange on yours seems to be in comparison to my 750 Breva which I acquired with just under 8000 miles on the clock and has freed up and become smoother now the miles are up to 23000. My previous Guzzi , a Mk3 SPADA 1000 was purchased with 102,000 miles on the clock and initially I had more neutrals than Switzerland but a minor adjustment to the linkage gave smooth , slick and positive gearchanges just like the Breva, which I find is as good as the gearbox on my Suzuki Freewind engined Sachs 650. Perhaps years of perseverance with Jawa and CZ gearboxes has paid off. Stick with the V7 it will be a different animal with 10 to 15 thousand miles under its wheels.
Hi Peter, I have an '05 750 Breva, bought last year with 60k km on the clock and the shift noise is a lot quieter than Dave's; I find that pre-loading the lever helps, though the 1st/2nd change will sometimes find neutral. Interested in your comment on the Jawa/CZ; I bought a new Jawa 250 back in '63, then a very rough '70-model 350 in '84, which I refurbished and kept for 15 years. Never had any issues with either bike.
@ hi Chris, over the years I had several 350 Jawas , a couple of 350 CZs and a couple of 175 CZs . I can’t remember whether they all had the “automatic “ clutch but making smooth silent gear changes on them took a certain amount of practice. The late Bob Rixen, a real stalwart of the Jawa/Cz owners club many years ago remarked to me that making silent gear changes was like adjusting Velocette clutches, easy when you know how. Happy days.
@@PeterBerris Hi Peter, yes I can understand what you're saying. My Jawas had the "automatic" clutch, but I preferred to always use the 'bar lever, as it gave a better result. Wish I'd still got the 350; they're a rare bike here in Oz.
@ likewise , I think it might have been more of a get you home feature in the event of a cable breaking . Not common in the Uk either now. Apart from a brand new 350 CZ which was £750 on the road in 1989, I’m pretty sure I didn’t pay more than £50 for any of the others.
My V7 (TBW Model!) is now off the road today for Canada's winter.. snow last Monday. Oil & filter done as well as valve check.. only one was slightly tight. Will double-check the gearshift linkages! Appreciate the heads up! Fuel tank is off and will add a Thunderbox power unit and hook up some Oxford Heated grips and an old school gps 😅. Not sure about adding extra lights at this time. PS nearest Guzzi dealer is over 1500km away.... so DIY, as always 😊
1500 km wow that’s a proper distance Steve. Hope winter isn’t too cruel for you over there and many thanks for your continued support I really appreciate it
By the way, when you're cleaning the V7, pay particular attention to the back end of the gearbox, where the gear change and clutch mechanisms reside. The rear mudguard has a gap at the swingarm.....lots of road crud gets flung on it. Very fiddley to clean with long brushes and detergent, rinsing, dried off then liberal sprayings of ACF50 or similar. Breva was the same. These Italian bellas are just not designed for our miserable climate.😄 👍
Bummer. Maybe a good idea to sort out why/how the bolt snapped before you fix the new part assuming the problem is fixed long term. The underlying problem might persist.
had similar happen on after market gear linkage on my RE Meteor , limped home in 2nd managed to find a bolt thinner than the holes and long enough so to hold that in i used a hair tie , it gor me to where i could fix it properly this time with a lock nut.
Not sure what forums you're on I've been riding Guzzis for 40 years and have never known this. Usually, the worst that happens is that the nut undoes and it drops off the box. You might be better off replacing both ends with rose joints linked by a short piece of 6mm threated bar. This will be more relaible and will improve the gear change.
Hi tbw the Yorkshire dales is a wonderful place to be me and the wife have a run round the dales 4 or 5 times a year,we like hawes and butter tubes pass up to tan hill cracking drive keep up the good work thanks.
I just don't understand how a manufacturer can have decades of accumulated experience and still be making basic design and production errors. I understand the love of the aesthetics, the sound, and the storytelling, but I would not reward them for incompetence. Reliability is paramount for me.
No problem ! Just drop into the nearest Moto Guz.... Right, Bugger... See, lack of local dealers is the reason that I am not riding a V7. I think, here in Scotland, the only Guzzi dealer is (was?) in Glasgow which is a long, LONG way from me. This now applies to most makes, and many places, in the UK and must surely lead to less and less bikes on the road.
@splodge57 Wrong. The main dealer monopoly was ended by EC block exemption in 2003. Because of this, maintenance and service work does not have to be carried out by a Main Dealer. Any VAT registered service centre can carry out work as long as they use original equipment and complete work in accordance with the manufacturer’s service schedules. If these criteria are adhered to and recorded, you will maintain your warranty. It's not widely known because dealers tend to keep quiet about it for obvious reasons. If warranty work is declined on the basis you have to take it to a main dealer, and you've maintained the service history based on the aforementioned criteria, the manufacturer is breaking the law and doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.
@@AndySmith4501I'm talking about warranty work. If a gearbox goes and you take it to an independent dealer whose going to pay for the parts and labour?
had the same problem with a 1979 T3 California back in 1986,, if i remember rightly it was the ball joint that went, luckily i had my girlfriend on the back and her dad rescued us.
You’ve not owned a Guzzi have you😂 will probably be waiting until next February, Piaggio’s part supply is pretty flaky to say the least, they can be a right pain. I’ve had to get hold of parts through Germany and all over, not helped by dealers not really holding many parts.
That's the joy of Piaggio, they've always been terrible to deal with. If you want reliability and less time spent off the road you can't beat a Japanese bike.
As the popularity of this genre of bike increases, i wonder if breakdown policies will exclude any breakdown caused by : charm, soul or character 😜. Cheers Dave.
In my stay in the Yorkshire Dales, I was particularly fond of the B6160, and whenever you felt so inclined, I would love to view you riding that route again.
Boston Spa main street can be a nightmare Dave!! Not sure if you know it but at approx 13.10, there's a plaque to a fallen policeman. How can anyone be bored of The Yorkshire Dales....ah well. Ride safe bruv. Dave (N Yorks)
Never tempt fate. :) Wherever you ride is good with me. Living in the US, I've had no idea what the English countryside is like until I started watching your videos. I wish we had those back roads here in southeast Wyoming. Most of the county roads here are not paved which isn't good when you prefer pavement and dedicated street-type bikes.
@@thebingleywheeler Changeable. We had an abnormally warm, dry fall but that's all changed now. Hi temps the last few days have gone from the low 30 degrees F to the low 50s and back with some very windy days and some light snow. In other parts of the state (west and north, the more mountainous areas), they've had some heavy snows. Winters can get quite cold; well below zero degrees F with some wild temperature swings due to the winds. It will be like this until mid-April when spring slowly shows up. Sometimes summer doesn't show up until the latter part of June. Summers are hot (80s-upper 90s) with afternoon thunderstorms. From now until April, the bikes will spend more time in the garage than out.
Thank you so much that’s fascinating to hear I love the American landscapes and Wyoming seems so quintessentially American I must visit one day before too long love your country 👍🏻
Is your v7 not in guarantee , the dealer should put that right for you , also would a stainless steel bolt stop that problem? Good job you had you mates with you and 3rd gear😊
When you say "screw"... you mean the linkage itself? As in the middle bit that you twist to adjust up & down? Is it possible that its locking nut got overtightened? If not, I'd consider getting a Honda or Kawasaki one or something like that. Should be moar skookumer 😅
Dave what is the difference in your Aoocci C6 pro and the new C9 max that you fitted to your V7 do they have the same functions . The V7 is still a cracking bike keep up the good work that is if you can call it work when you having a cracking ride out all the best. 😂
I dare say MG buy in nuts, bolts and fastening from an external supplier and maybe a batch is not as good as it should be. Such a silly thing to cause a stranding. Are you making a warranty claim? I'd be interested to hear what they say about it ( I suspect you won't hear anything from them)
I had a year of niggling problems with my V7. To be fair it never left me stranded but I lost Confidence in it. I’ve gone back to Suzuki. Gutted as I wanted a Guzzi since I was a kid.
Another nice Yorkshire ride but call me old fashioned I prefer the view of two analogue clocks on my Speed Twin 1200. I can't understand why you haven't got the parts needed for the Guzzi under warranty.🤔
If the bolt was stainless and over tightened, that's a recipe for disaster. I don't know if that was the case. Over the years I've had stainless bolts pop even carefully torqued to spec.
Sounds like a good product in theory Dave, but mirroring your phone? Might as well get a Quadlock and mount your phone in a similar way.. I mean you shouldnt be using either whilst on the move so it kinda kills the idea a bit.. 😉
I got a CarPlay unit new for £60 on eBay. It works, it’s cheaper than a quadlock and my phone stays safe zipped up in my pocket. I was sceptical but now a convert.
How accurate is the GPS speedometer on the aoocci please. And be careful how much you show on here around your house pal little scrotes will be in at your stuff. 👍🏻
Bored with the beautiful dales? Not a chance, if i had that privilege here to ride in a place like that, i would be out there every chance i got, perfect so please keep on riding there, this canuck will not be bored. Thanks for your videos, most enjoyable. About the guzzi, was there no warranty on that part? Only asking as surely that has to be a factory defect, just curious is all. Enjoy, & i look forward to your next installment. Ric, ontario canada, been out myself the last couple of days, the weather,(not climate change) has been quite cooperative. Bye now.
The gear shift lever on my W800 does not use any external linkages. The lever is directly connected to a splined shaft coming out of the transmission secured by a pinch bolt. I noticed the gear shifter seemed a little sloppy so i investigated and found that the pinch bolt was loose allowing the the lever to move around on the spline. Fortunately it wasn't like that long enough to ruin the spline. It just shows you that no manufacturer is immune to the occasional faux pas. BJ
If you get bored with your area take a ride to my neck of the woods.........Northumberland. Great coast and rural twisties and grand scenery to please the eye. Bamburgh Castle, Alnwick Castle, Holy Island, Rothury (my favourite Sunday ran when I had bikes), Berwick, Kielder Water, Hexham.......the Cheviot Hills........oh the memories. Still like the Yorkshire dales though. I was at Settle and Hawes a few weeks ago and Bingley last year. Going to Bingley next month too.
I had a V1000G5 that broke the gear linkage almost 300 miles from home (snapped weld on the bellcrank). It was stuck in fourth gear - I just shrugged and carried on home, then rewelded the bellcrank when I got there. I did 205,000 miles on that bike before it was stolen and torched in Belfast.
I changed all my Allen bolts, bolts to high grade stainless steel. While both grades are corrosion-resistant, 316 stainless steel is more resistant to acids and chlorides, making it ideal for harsh environments, while 304 stainless steel is more commonly used for general-purpose applications.
I would have kept the Honda Pan American and your CF Moto with the four year Warranty, and just sell the rest. Get yourself one of the Japanese bikes. But that's just me. Ride safe Mate. Cheers from the Colonies.
@@jiltedjohn9294 All bikes have character whether it be a 3 hp mini-bike to a 1300cc touring bike. It's the joy of riding whatever you have is what's important to me.
@@rickh8380 Why say get yourself one of the Japanese bikes then ? Guzzis are as reliable as anything else,there's the odd niggle now and again but thats all.
I've had Guzzi's, Ducati's, BMW's, all great bikes (except BM😂) but you can't beat the Japanese for reliability and not having to spend time and money at the dealers.
Lots will say, go further afield... Not me... Stay in God's country and ride safe..... Just to say, when I had pets at home, I never ventured far as I always felt I was abandoning them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Stay safe...
Works very well for me though (Norway) lol Give it a week and you'll understand just fine. We have dialects here too that took me a week to follow, but as I got older I even think of German as a dialect.
Well that's a bugger. Reminded me of the time I'd just left a campsite in Cornwall on my BMW R65 to head back home to Lancs. The gear linkage broke just after I'd got on the road. It was a little straight rod with a right angle at each end held in by spring clips. It had snapped in the middle. Luckily, I managed to fashion a replacement using a tent peg, some pliers and the saw blade on my multi-tool penknife. Got me all the way home and lasted until one of the engineering bods at work made me a nice replacement connecting rod.
That’s a cracking story pal if only modern bikes could be fettled this 😎
Well done fella
My tyre pressures are usually checked by the swift application of a size 11
Never heard of a gear linkage shearing off gear shift lever before . Had Hondas & Suzukis up to 20 years old ,with no signs of the gear linkage breaking . Happen it’s wise for us bikers to carry a spare or at least some way of sorting a get you home fix . I would also suggest in the time you took fart arsing around with nerdy tech screen gubbins on CF 800 ,you could have been well on your way 5 to 10 miles down the road & enjoying the scenery much earlier . 👍
I had a kawasaki GT550 do the same thing....
Carry a large vice grip pliers. Can be used for shift lever in emergency’s
@ That’s why you should buy either a Honda , Suzuki or Yamaha instead .
Glad it was something external, (and easy/cheap to remedy), rather than something that required opening up the engine to fix. The roads round your way are fantastic to ride but I wouldn't want to be stranded on some of the more remote examples!
V7 owner myself, quality of a lot of the fixings leaves a lot to be desired to be honest. I’ve gradually gone round and replaced a lot of bits such as header nuts etc. Moto Guzzi’s customers have been acting as their R+D dept for a 100 years😂, I still love mine.
Cheers Stuart yes I love the bike I can certainly forgive a dodgy bolt 😎
I’m not familiar with the bike market, but I’m aware of some very low quality in fixtures and fittings at present time. Stainless products such as spokes are cracking. Bolts are not to the required strength etc. Many fixtures and fittings come from China and unless they are checked and tested on delivery can be very inferior, but cheap. With one of my competitors, they found a fuse from China actually failed at over 20amps above the indicated figure. Needless to say, no more came from China. On tests we found Chinese electrical cables were of very poor quality with too much alloy content resulting with overheating. Manufacturers around the world look to reducing production costs but sometimes this results in reliability issues.
@@Judith-c6r if you have replaced with stainless, that is the wrong grade. Steel fixings are supposed to stretch (under the torque wrench) so they stay tight; stainless does not stretch, if you tighten it to the point it will stay tight, it will break rather than stretch. We want 'automotive grade' fixings, stronger than diy and building trade grades, but with the correct stretch. They can be 'rust-free' rather than austenitic stainless steel; or wipe with the oily rag.
@ no I’ve not converted to stainless but some bike wheels have stainless spokes which can crack as they have limited flex. Bolts are designed to do a specific job as are all fixings, but unfortunately when outsourced these products are not always manufactured to the correct specifications , that is why “goods inwards” should be checked for specification and grading.
@@Judith-c6r the 'limited flex' is down to them being generic stainless. There are thousands of grades of steel and many, many types of 'stainless'. This is why the grade must be specified. The mind-boggling exhaustive British Standard series got adopted as the international standard (ISO). Steel stock is usually bought with a certificate of conformity. And then there's the chinese.
It's all part of Moto Guzzi ownership as the saying goes, Moto Guzzi been making mechanics for over a hundred years. That's why we love them it connects you to the very knowledgeable community and to your bike. I have a 08 1200 sport that had the famous startus intreruptas fault an easy fix, but what other manufactures owners would give faults there own name , a weird lot we may be but once your hooked that's it.
Thanks for the heads up , I will check my Guzzi gear linkage 👍
Sorry to hear the Guzzi let you down. Always happy to see you riding in the Yorkshire hills, some marvellous scenery. Living in Bedfordshire, we are not blessed with much hilly scenery, but today we are having a ride out to the Dunstable Downs, which has some splendid views 😀. Always great to hear your Yorkshire accent and your choice of words when explaining any situation, look forward to the next video 👍
I love motorcycles, but long ago concluded that the fancy style of Italian bikes is simply not worth the price of admission or the unending serious of stuff that seems to happen. The J-4 offerings may lack soul, but getting to my destination reliably and safely without spending every dime I’ve earned, is also a priority.
If you just need transport then I must agree with you, but a Moto Guzzi has a feel that few other bikes can offer. Are they the best bikes in the world - absolutely not, but they are not in any way bland and lifeless.
I've had 2 California 1100s in the past. Lovely , but the gear linkage is a pain in the bum. It never actually failed completely, but quite often I couldn't get first gear. It was just wear in the ball joints. Very common issue I understand.I replaced the full linkage on both bikes with parts from Guzzibits. They're over Huddersfield way & are very reasonable price wise. Personally with yours I'd have claimed on the warranty.
That’s a worry , bolts just snapping ! for no particular reason . Glad you nursed it home tho .
Bad luck that, but Guzzi won’t be manufacturing their own gear linkages, it’ll be a generic item, and that’s probably not going to invalidate your warranty. Buy 2 and keep one handy for next time. Surely there’s some way of selecting 3rd gear manually if you need to? Love the Fred Trueman sign-off!
Warranty surely?
Mig weld a ½" af nut onto the sheared stud.
Might take a couple goes.
Works every time.
Glad the Guzzi will be an easy fix Dave. I'll bet you'll be up and running even before your next vid is out😊
Every time you take us along your moors rides, there's something else to see. The changing seasons, different weather and the bike of choice, always bring a fresh take to each and every trip you take us on. Selfishly, I'd love to see you repeat the Scar House Reservoir run, before Kelly and I can do it for ourselves next year 😊
Were you standing on the gearshift lever?!! Quite shocking!
My new 2023 V7 Stone lasted less than 300 miles last year! The engine exploded on the highway with no warning. Something shot through the front of the engine (flywheel, crankshaft?) and all of the engine oil burst out. I was in the left lane of I-95 in Miami and had to cross three lanes to my right at 70 mph with oil on my boots and the bike tires! Almost caused a fire in extreme outside heat. Massive white smoke. I parked on roadside and ran like hell!
I pressured Piaggio customer care in NYC to replace bike. They did so. Second bike still okay at 3,500 miles.
Wow that sounds catastrophic I’m glad you’re ok 👍🏻
Glad you weren't totally stranded! It's funny how the quality of service can vary so much between different dealers, Appleyards must be a shrewd outfit, they know you'll use them again in the future! I'll certainly consider using them in the future, perhaps if I mention you I'll get the same gold standard of service, lol. I like the routes you cover as being fairly new to North Yorks I'm getting some great places to check out! Really enjoying your channel, cheers!
Cheers buddy much appreciated yes if you go to Appleyards make sure you mention me 😊👍🏻
Glad i watched this, checked my v7 stone 2024 less than 300mls and the offending linkage bolt was loose, going to thread lock it and keep an eye on it, probably worth checking all the other joints, surly Moto Guzzi know about this problem, been on the forums and its not uncommon, also the parts are not easy to get hold off, doesn't inspire long trips with this in the back of your mind, great vid as always, cheers.
Thank you David I fixed mine today using a second hand part
Let's see some camping trips through out the summer
The same thing happened to my kxt1200 BMW due to rust (the bike came from the heavily salted roads of Scotland), I fixed it by finding and adapting a longer bolt with the same thread and cutting it. Repair cost peanuts, but I was lucky it happened at home. Main lesson learned only buy bikes or cars from areas with little to no salt or owners who ride or drive in decent weather. I now live in the south of France, no salt or snow so my bikes and cars stay clear of the dreaded rust😊
the thing about Guzzis, is that they are easy to fix in most cases, 21 years with mine , only regular problem, those poxy valeo starter motors, water gets into them, so I seal all the electrical entries with silicon grease
Welcome to the real Guzzi riders club, their gear linkages have been an issue since the stone age. My 76 lemans look alike got stuck in 2nd recently like yourself got it home with large clutch slippage and a modicum of luck, hence this occurrence made me chuckle, in my case the selector had rattled off the selector splined shaft, the Guzzi habit of rattling everything loose including your fillings had struck again 😂, best of luck with the repairs, I look forward to seeing the Guzzis return soon.
Had one Italian bike never again japanese or nothing now lol
Hi Dave sorry to hear your Guzzi let you down. I’ve never owned a new Guzzi but I couldn’t help noticing how clunky the gearchange on yours seems to be in comparison to my 750 Breva which I acquired with just under 8000 miles on the clock and has freed up and become smoother now the miles are up to 23000. My previous Guzzi , a Mk3 SPADA 1000 was purchased with 102,000 miles on the clock and initially I had more neutrals than Switzerland but a minor adjustment to the linkage gave smooth , slick and positive gearchanges just like the Breva, which I find is as good as the gearbox on my Suzuki Freewind engined Sachs 650. Perhaps years of perseverance with Jawa and CZ gearboxes has paid off. Stick with the V7 it will be a different animal with 10 to 15 thousand miles under its wheels.
Cheers Peter much appreciated and yes rest assured I will be sticking with the Guzzi 😊
Hi Peter, I have an '05 750 Breva, bought last year with 60k km on the clock and the shift noise is a lot quieter than Dave's; I find that pre-loading the lever helps, though the 1st/2nd change will sometimes find neutral. Interested in your comment on the Jawa/CZ; I bought a new Jawa 250 back in '63, then a very rough '70-model 350 in '84, which I refurbished and kept for 15 years. Never had any issues with either bike.
@ hi Chris, over the years I had several 350 Jawas , a couple of 350 CZs and a couple of 175 CZs . I can’t remember whether they all had the “automatic “ clutch but making smooth silent gear changes on them took a certain amount of practice. The late Bob Rixen, a real stalwart of the Jawa/Cz owners club many years ago remarked to me that making silent gear changes was like adjusting Velocette clutches, easy when you know how. Happy days.
@@PeterBerris Hi Peter, yes I can understand what you're saying. My Jawas had the "automatic" clutch, but I preferred to always use the 'bar lever, as it gave a better result. Wish I'd still got the 350; they're a rare bike here in Oz.
@ likewise , I think it might have been more of a get you home feature in the event of a cable breaking . Not common in the Uk either now. Apart from a brand new 350 CZ which was £750 on the road in 1989, I’m pretty sure I didn’t pay more than £50 for any of the others.
My V7 (TBW Model!) is now off the road today for Canada's winter.. snow last Monday. Oil & filter done as well as valve check.. only one was slightly tight.
Will double-check the gearshift linkages! Appreciate the heads up! Fuel tank is off and will add a Thunderbox power unit and hook up some Oxford Heated grips and an old school gps 😅.
Not sure about adding extra lights at this time.
PS nearest Guzzi dealer is over 1500km away.... so DIY, as always 😊
1500 km wow that’s a proper distance Steve. Hope winter isn’t too cruel for you over there and many thanks for your continued support I really appreciate it
Oxford grips already have a voltage sensing circuit so Thunderbox not needed.
@@stevet599 careful with adding many extras, the V7 regulator / charging system is marginal and is a bit of a weak point.
By the way, when you're cleaning the V7, pay particular attention to the back end of the gearbox, where the gear change and clutch mechanisms reside. The rear mudguard has a gap at the swingarm.....lots of road crud gets flung on it. Very fiddley to clean with long brushes and detergent, rinsing, dried off then liberal sprayings of ACF50 or similar. Breva was the same. These Italian bellas are just not designed for our miserable climate.😄 👍
Should have kept the Super Meteor!!!
Bummer. Maybe a good idea to sort out why/how the bolt snapped before you fix the new part assuming the problem is fixed long term. The underlying problem might persist.
Yes good idea 👍🏻
had similar happen on after market gear linkage on my RE Meteor , limped home in 2nd managed to find a bolt thinner than the holes and long enough so to hold that in i used a hair tie , it gor me to where i could fix it properly this time with a lock nut.
Not sure what forums you're on I've been riding Guzzis for 40 years and have never known this. Usually, the worst that happens is that the nut undoes and it drops off the box. You might be better off replacing both ends with rose joints linked by a short piece of 6mm threated bar. This will be more relaible and will improve the gear change.
Hi tbw the Yorkshire dales is a wonderful place to be me and the wife have a run round the dales 4 or 5 times a year,we like hawes and butter tubes pass up to tan hill cracking drive keep up the good work thanks.
I just don't understand how a manufacturer can have decades of accumulated experience and still be making basic design and production errors. I understand the love of the aesthetics, the sound, and the storytelling, but I would not reward them for incompetence. Reliability is paramount for me.
No problem ! Just drop into the nearest Moto Guz.... Right, Bugger...
See, lack of local dealers is the reason that I am not riding a V7. I think, here in Scotland, the only Guzzi dealer is (was?) in Glasgow which is a long, LONG way from me.
This now applies to most makes, and many places, in the UK and must surely lead to less and less bikes on the road.
@ccooper8785
Any half decent motorcycle mechanic can work on these. One of the most basic easy to work on bikes out there
Jim Allan motorcycles in Bathgate and Falkirk 👍🏻
If you've spent a lot of money on a new bike that needs work done under warranty you need a main dealer to do this.
@splodge57
Wrong. The main dealer monopoly was ended by EC block exemption in 2003. Because of this, maintenance and service work does not have to be carried out by a Main Dealer. Any VAT registered service centre can carry out work as long as they use original equipment and complete work in accordance with the manufacturer’s service schedules. If these criteria are adhered to and recorded, you will maintain your warranty. It's not widely known because dealers tend to keep quiet about it for obvious reasons. If warranty work is declined on the basis you have to take it to a main dealer, and you've maintained the service history based on the aforementioned criteria, the manufacturer is breaking the law and doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.
@@AndySmith4501I'm talking about warranty work. If a gearbox goes and you take it to an independent dealer whose going to pay for the parts and labour?
had the same problem with a 1979 T3 California back in 1986,, if i remember rightly it was the ball joint that went, luckily i had my girlfriend on the back and her dad rescued us.
Why didn't you use the Guzzi warranty?
You’ve not owned a Guzzi have you😂 will probably be waiting until next February, Piaggio’s part supply is pretty flaky to say the least, they can be a right pain. I’ve had to get hold of parts through Germany and all over, not helped by dealers not really holding many parts.
Yes that’s the reason sadly 😎
I wouldn’t buy a bike that didn’t have a support structure in place, they don’t deserve my business!
That's the joy of Piaggio, they've always been terrible to deal with. If you want reliability and less time spent off the road you can't beat a Japanese bike.
Glad it wasn’t the gearbox itself and was fairly easily fixable. Keep up the good work.
A lot of people on here probably thought that your CFMoto would give you problems. I didn't. I thought your Moto Guzzi would.
How difficult is it to fit that dashcam? I'm hopeless at electrics in particular and fitting an optimate is about my limit!
Have a look at the shear face on the broken bolt. Is it all rough or is there a bit of smooth & shiny metal next to the rough parts?
As the popularity of this genre of bike increases, i wonder if breakdown policies will exclude any breakdown caused by : charm, soul or character 😜. Cheers Dave.
In my stay in the Yorkshire Dales, I was particularly fond of the B6160, and whenever you felt so inclined, I would love to view you riding that route again.
Absolutely it’s a cracker 😎
Now that really would worry me as a long-term ownership prospect 😮
It’s like watching TV shopping channel.
You watch my content for free don’t you????
Boston Spa main street can be a nightmare Dave!! Not sure if you know it but at approx 13.10, there's a plaque to a fallen policeman. How can anyone be bored of The Yorkshire Dales....ah well.
Ride safe bruv.
Dave (N Yorks)
Spot on Dave and thank you buddy nothing boring about our homeland 😊
You gotta get you some DJI camera and batteries . they don't drop dead like that quickly
The broken linkage was uncle salty's voodoo doll working overtime. LOL
😱😰😜
Never tempt fate. :) Wherever you ride is good with me. Living in the US, I've had no idea what the English countryside is like until I started watching your videos. I wish we had those back roads here in southeast Wyoming. Most of the county roads here are not paved which isn't good when you prefer pavement and dedicated street-type bikes.
I’m always impressed with states like Wyoming….beautiful landscape…what are the seasons like?
@@thebingleywheeler Changeable. We had an abnormally warm, dry fall but that's all changed now. Hi temps the last few days have gone from the low 30 degrees F to the low 50s and back with some very windy days and some light snow. In other parts of the state (west and north, the more mountainous areas), they've had some heavy snows. Winters can get quite cold; well below zero degrees F with some wild temperature swings due to the winds. It will be like this until mid-April when spring slowly shows up. Sometimes summer doesn't show up until the latter part of June. Summers are hot (80s-upper 90s) with afternoon thunderstorms. From now until April, the bikes will spend more time in the garage than out.
Thank you so much that’s fascinating to hear I love the American landscapes and Wyoming seems so quintessentially American I must visit one day before too long love your country 👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler 👍
Wasnt it under warranty?
Wasn’t the part still under warranty? I thought that bike was new
Seems like you could shift it with a solid kick of the boot heel directly to the shaft coming off the transmission.
Believe me I tried
Did you go to Squires after the end of the video ??
Never bored with Yorkshire, (except a few urban bits of the West Riding) how about the Buttertubs just for fun and terror? Ride safe Dave!
Warranty issue.
Stupid to do it yourself.
I speak from experience.
Is your v7 not in guarantee , the dealer should put that right for you , also would a stainless steel bolt stop that problem? Good job you had you mates with you and 3rd gear😊
When you say "screw"... you mean the linkage itself? As in the middle bit that you twist to adjust up & down?
Is it possible that its locking nut got overtightened?
If not, I'd consider getting a Honda or Kawasaki one or something like that. Should be moar skookumer 😅
My KTM GT has been absolutely .......not saying any more 🙄
Dave what is the difference in your Aoocci C6 pro and the new C9 max that you fitted to your V7 do they have the same functions . The V7 is still a cracking bike keep up the good work that is if you can call it work when you having a cracking ride out all the best. 😂
Cheers Paul the C9 has a more secure mount and a slightly better home menu screen but otherwise little difference
@thebingleywheeler Thanks Dave just put a order for 2) C9 max .
Hi Dave im pleased you got home safe & sound , take care Mate
Thank you Steve that’s very kind of you to say 👍🏻
Poor quality steel for the bolt/too much undercut at the root of the thread on the bot ( shear line starts), or……over tightened at some point.
Go east! You might bump into Uncle Stuart 😂
I’ll need my body armour if I do….his army are out to get me 😂
Was that Tadcaster way, going towards Selby?
Yes it was 😊👍🏻
@@thebingleywheelerSorry I meant to say Sherburn and Barkston Ash.
Yes correct 👍🏻
I dare say MG buy in nuts, bolts and fastening from an external supplier and maybe a batch is not as good as it should be. Such a silly thing to cause a stranding. Are you making a warranty claim? I'd be interested to hear what they say about it ( I suspect you won't hear anything from them)
Repaired it myself 😊
I had a year of niggling problems with my V7. To be fair it never left me stranded but I lost
Confidence in it. I’ve gone back to Suzuki. Gutted as I wanted a Guzzi since I was a kid.
@@dbharrold I’ve got a V7 and a Suzuki SV650 myself. To be honest I love my V7 but the SV is 10x the bike.
Talk about distracted riding.
Not bored with your routes at all. More of the same please 😁😁
Thank you Michael
A flacid lever? It's an age thing.
😂😂😂
Dave,use high tensile 8.8 or higher
Cheers Jeff
Another nice Yorkshire ride but call me old fashioned I prefer the view of two analogue clocks on my Speed Twin 1200. I can't understand why you haven't got the parts needed for the Guzzi under warranty.🤔
If the bolt was stainless and over tightened, that's a recipe for disaster. I don't know if that was the case. Over the years I've had stainless bolts pop even carefully torqued to spec.
A lot of High Tensile bolts get replaced by SS when they shouldn't be
Sounds like a good product in theory Dave, but mirroring your phone? Might as well get a Quadlock and mount your phone in a similar way..
I mean you shouldnt be using either whilst on the move so it kinda kills the idea a bit.. 😉
I got a CarPlay unit new for £60 on eBay. It works, it’s cheaper than a quadlock and my phone stays safe zipped up in my pocket. I was sceptical but now a convert.
What TBW? The Yorkshire Dales are boring? Delete them soft subscribers 😉
Chicken wire will be your best friend if all else fails!
Cheers
God bless you Steve 😊👍🏻
The Guzzi fault surely a warranty claim? And the routes? Never get tired of seeing the dales!
Had the same problem on my speed twin twice
How accurate is the GPS speedometer on the aoocci please.
And be careful how much you show on here around your house pal little scrotes will be in at your stuff. 👍🏻
Cheers buddy 👍🏻
Warranty.......ffs.......????????
Nah waste of 😂
Bored with the beautiful dales? Not a chance, if i had that privilege here to ride in a place like that, i would be out there every chance i got, perfect so please keep on riding there, this canuck will not be bored. Thanks for your videos, most enjoyable. About the guzzi, was there no warranty on that part? Only asking as surely that has to be a factory defect, just curious is all. Enjoy, & i look forward to your next installment. Ric, ontario canada, been out myself the last couple of days, the weather,(not climate change) has been quite cooperative. Bye now.
I know that route through Boston spa into tadcaster you were very close to Eddy moto.
The gear shift lever on my W800 does not use any external linkages. The lever is directly connected to a splined shaft coming out of the transmission secured by a pinch bolt. I noticed the gear shifter seemed a little sloppy so i investigated and found that the pinch bolt was loose allowing the the lever to move around on the spline. Fortunately it wasn't like that long enough to ruin the spline. It just shows you that no manufacturer is immune to the occasional faux pas.
BJ
Very good point there thank you
Rule of Guzzi ownership number 9.3
Always carry a pair of mole grips
Top idea Andy 👍🏻
I love Guzzis, but at the end of the day......Italian!!! :(
Ellan valley in Wales, Derbyshire, the lakes, the highlands etc tours abroad. ps why didn't the have the Guzzi done under warranty?
Great locations those….not sure I trust the warranty work
If you get bored with your area take a ride to my neck of the woods.........Northumberland.
Great coast and rural twisties and grand scenery to please the eye.
Bamburgh Castle, Alnwick Castle, Holy Island, Rothury (my favourite Sunday ran when I had bikes), Berwick, Kielder Water, Hexham.......the Cheviot Hills........oh the memories.
Still like the Yorkshire dales though. I was at Settle and Hawes a few weeks ago and Bingley last year.
Going to Bingley next month too.
I had a V1000G5 that broke the gear linkage almost 300 miles from home (snapped weld on the bellcrank). It was stuck in fourth gear - I just shrugged and carried on home, then rewelded the bellcrank when I got there. I did 205,000 miles on that bike before it was stolen and torched in Belfast.
205k miles wow that’s impressive 👍🏻
Oh dear !!
Watch out for the v7 influencers telling you it’s your fault or it’s your 3rd rate mechanics fault who’s never touched your bikes fault 😂👍
I changed all my Allen bolts, bolts to high grade stainless steel. While both grades are corrosion-resistant, 316 stainless steel is more resistant to acids and chlorides, making it ideal for harsh environments, while 304 stainless steel is more commonly used for general-purpose applications.
Thank you Richard that’s something I didn’t know so I’ll look at changing cheers buddy 👍🏻
SS doesn't always have the Tensile strength of original plated steel though. Of course fine for general fixing
I would have kept the Honda Pan American and your CF Moto with the four year Warranty, and just sell the rest. Get yourself one of the Japanese bikes. But that's just me. Ride safe Mate. Cheers from the Colonies.
Why ? They've got zero character.
Cheers Rick God bless
@@jiltedjohn9294 All bikes have character whether it be a 3 hp mini-bike to a 1300cc touring bike. It's the joy of riding whatever you have is what's important to me.
@@rickh8380 Why say get yourself one of the Japanese bikes then ? Guzzis are as reliable as anything else,there's the odd niggle now and again but thats all.
I've had Guzzi's, Ducati's, BMW's, all great bikes (except BM😂) but you can't beat the Japanese for reliability and not having to spend time and money at the dealers.
Lots will say, go further afield...
Not me...
Stay in God's country and ride safe.....
Just to say, when I had pets at home, I never ventured far as I always felt I was abandoning them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Stay safe...
6 more minutes of bloody aoochi pandering !!
Sorry but find it so hard to understand what your saying half the time!!
Gave up on this bloke after his first few videos solely because he drove me to mad with his verbal presentation.
Works very well for me though (Norway) lol
Give it a week and you'll understand just fine.
We have dialects here too that took me a week to
follow, but as I got older I even think of German as a dialect.
Love the Yorkshire accent, part of the reason I watch and subscribe.
Your the problem
Why?