A Brand New Moto Guzzi V7 with Problem After Problem
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Time Stamps:
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0:00: Moto Guzzi V7 Issues (Suzuki GSX-8S)
5:06: Moto Guzzi California
9:01: Tubeless tire conversions (Triumph Bonneville T120 and Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide)
14:42: The default choice for mile munching on a budget (Honda ST1100 Pan European)
17:30: Experienced road trippers bikes of choice (Triumph Scrambler 1200XE and Royal Enfield Himalayan 450
18:28: A Puch 250 TF from 1952 through the Alps
20:23: 23,500km around North America (Honda CRF300 Rally)
For Tuber Tyres there was a Product called Slime
You pumped it into The tube and it sealed the Tube if it Got Penetrated by a Nail or Screw.
I remember going to the Motorcycle Show at Olimpia
London they Rode a Slime Treated Tubed Bikes over a
Plank with Nails along it's Length. The Tyres Stayed
Fully inflated. You could see where the Punctures
Occurred From The Green Dye on the Tyres from
The Slime
Ah, this is extremely useful!
@@tuesdayatdobbs Still available I just googled Slime Tube Sealant for Motorcycles
@@tuesdayatdobbs guys I’ve been using this product for over 25 years, can’t recommend it enough 💪
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There is NOTHING that will seal a punctured tube, even on a bicycle. They are just too thin. They almost always shred when punctured. And Slime is GARBAGE. There is some stuff called Ride On that will seal most punctures in TUBELESS tires, but a flat with tube type tires means a tow truck. And hopefully they don't blow out at high speed and cause a crash and kill you.
@@geraldscott4302 worked fine For me on Motorcycle
& pedal Cycle admittedly for Nails or Screws Only
2 year old V85tt I’ve had since new. Absolutely no issues. Zero,nil,nada. Same engine as the v7. Would get on it and ride to Italy tomorrow with no worries. Might get a Stelvio or Mandello next👍👍👌👌
My Mandello is sublime and has had no issues over the last 4000 miles! You won’t regret getting one.
Hi Freddie, Thank you so much for the mention on your show today. It really means a lot for you to take the time to highlight my channel. I'm incredibly grateful. Keep up the good work!
That's a very gracious comment, fair play to you
@@simoncollins6529 thanks Simon
My Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special is now 3 years old and it has been absolutely reliable. I do tend to avoid taking it out when the roads have been salted, if I can help it and if I do I clean it the next day. I used to have a number of winter hacks for many years that I would run for a couple of years along with my summer quality bike. But nowadays being retired, I just keep the one good bike and I’ve found the Guzzi a good allrounder.
I have owned a 2022 MG 850 V7 Special for almost 2 years. Not one problem. I ride to work 3 days a week and ride year round. No corrosion at all. They salt roads here in Dallas in the winter. I hope that dude enjoys his Suzuki. I will bet his cookie cutter Suzuki will fall ill as well. I sold Harleys for 4 years. Most of the time guys that have that many problems treat their bikes poorly. There is never an excuse to have corrosion on any bike, except when you don’t maintain it properly.
Had Guzzi’s all my motorcycling life and never, ever had a major issue with any of them. They’re so well over-engineered. Dynamically great to ride , easy to maintain and generally a joy to own with a superb supporting GB Owners Club. Some of those old Guzzi V-twins churn up over 200,000 miles.
I'm buying a 1998 Guzzi 1100 sport this Monday (14th).
My only concern is that the side stand is so far forward that I can barely reach it with the toe of my boot
@@simoncollins6529 This year on may I bought new Stelvio. After one month the tank started leaking🤬🤬 . Till now dealer do not have repair this failure!!! 🤦♂ Totaly disapointed!!!
@simoncollins
The early Guzzis did, unfortunately, have the side stand fitted awkwardly too far forward of your left peg….be careful, people have dropped them. Modifications can be made so shouldn’t ruin the ownership experience.
When you see what Noraly ‘Itchy Boots’ put her CRF300 through, travelling from South America all the way to the Artic Circle, it really was the ultimate test of any bike. That little Honda just kept on going! Yes she had it rebuilt and the suspension beefed up after the trip, before she took it to Africa, but again it just took on whatever she threw at it, (including being dumped into a river during a river crossing amongst so many other trials) and again it just kept going! As you say the only fault was the ABS sensor and the fan sensor not working so it overheated, until a roadside mechanic bypassed it so the fan stayed on. The ultimate in reliability 👍
I own a 2005 Moto Guzzi California EV simply love it. So sorry to hear about the chap with the V7 he should have had that sorted under the warranty. Every bike I have owned I have changed all the steel fasteners with stainless steel size equivalent and use Rolco copper grease on the threads.
Before anyone goes down the route of making their tyres tubeless, PLEASE think about the insurance implications. You are making a change to your motorcycles standard specifications, if you have an accident, and the insurance company finds you've changed the bike, it could invalidate your insurance.
Hear hear.
And cause a massive accident if it fails for whatever reason
@@Delboysparody exactly
If ifs and ands were pots and pans 🤷🏻♂️
@@Delboysparodymore likely on a tubed tyre 😉
And I love the Moto Guzzi so much . Beautiful bikes 🆒😎🤘🏻
Nice vid as always …nice to avoid a “carbs” dispute this week !
I thought it was probably best to move on from the carb argument😆
Itchy's Honda also had a problem with a heat sensor for the fan. It wasn't activating so the engine was overheating and cutting out. A local mechanic hot-wired the fan so it was on all the time. That was sufficient to get her to a larger workshop where the correct spares could be ordered. But that and the abs sensor you mentioned were small things: fundamentally the bike proved to be exceptionally tough. As did Noraly!
I own a Moto Guzzi V85tt and in my 1/1/2 it’s been very reliable, quality and reliability has been great 👍. One owner in the states has a 100,000km on his ( and it’s never missed a beat ) BUT I have heard on some of theses models having problems. I think it’s because each one is hand build I guess the “ human error can be involved “
Tubeless tires are great, in the same way carburetors are great & points timing is great & alcohol-less gas is great & all those other 150 year old technologies are great, my Dear Fellow....
I bought a 2014 Norge 1200 GT and I love it. I bought it this March with 4000 miles and have put 3000 on it this Sumer. I de-caged the put a custom exhaust with power commander and this Guzzi lives up to is wings!
I got a 2021 v7 850, took out an extended warranty. Glad I did, in that time I have had both switch gear on the handle bars changed. Front disc replaced due to too much lateral movement and the speedo replaced due to cracks appearing on the outer casing by indicator ears. They refused to change the downpipes which had corrosion on the left hand side. Total cost of parts which Moto Guzzi had to pay for was about £1300. I also have the e4 v7 2019 earlier model. That one has been fine only lambda sensors changed under warranty.
In 1979 tubed tires were most common. I had a fast puncture on the front wheel going 150 km/h on the Autoroute with my girlfriend and full camping gear on the back of my GT550. It was "interesting", but I managed to stop and drop at the median. I have never had a puncture on a front tubeless tire, but only a slow puncture on the rear, which I did not even notice until the next morning.
Moto Guzzi developed their original V-Twin motor for a military machine with a motorcycle front end and caterpillar tracks on either side of the rear end. The motor was over engineered so that it would perform on the battlefield with the minimum of maintenance. Moto Guzzi V-Twin motors are bombproof.
Only a total Philistine would convert a spoked rim meant for a tubed rim , by that method . The only way to convert a motorcycles wheels to tubeless , is to open the wallet & watch the moths fly out , & spend some bunce on wheels that are designed properly to do the job correctly & safely .
Agree 100%, Zorro. Converting rims from tubed to tubeless using glue and sticky tape looks to me like a potentially lethal bodge.
I've owned my V7 Stone for a few months now, but not done a huge amount of miles to test the reliability of the machine yet, but love its shake rattle and roll vibey nature and unique engine layout. I did have one issue you mentioned in the vid about the starter button failing to start the engine, it only did this once and after I'd switched the ignition off and on again it did start ok on the 2nd attempt, but nothing too serious and a can of electrical cleaner spray will probably sort this out, it's probably a case of "They all do this mate!". This bike does have the best gear shift into 1st gear that I've had on ANY bike i've owned, sure you can get the odd clunky or (drop a brick in a metal dustbin) shift but most are surprisingly smooth. Generally recommend to those after an old school feeling bike without too many frills (or radiator) come to that!
Freddie, I started biking in 1978. I’ve had over 30 bikes, of all sizes from 100cc to 1100cc. I didn’t keep a record, but I must have covered around 80,000 miles. Not a huge amount by any means. But I’ve toured around Europe, and done LEJOG twice. (Thinking of doing it again on a MZ etz 250) In all that time I’ve only ever had one puncture. Admittedly it was on a motorway, doing 70mph. But I managed to stop on the hard shoulder safely, and had my bike recovered home. All but one of my bikes had tubed tyres. It didn’t even occur to me that they were a potential problem. Most of my riding was done before cell phones were a thing. I used paper maps. With a list of the roads I need to use taped on my tank. Simpler times.. There was a product called slime, that I used a few times. You deflate the tyre fill the inner tube with the slime, inflate the tyre and that’s it. I think you can still buy a similar product.. 🤔
Same product 😊
I’ve had 2023 v7 ,2018 v7, and 2021 v85 moto guzzis. A slight exhaust leak fixed by readjusting the pipes is the only issue. Totally reliable and trouble free,otherwise.
I am sorry that you have problems.
In my experience with different cars and motorcycles you just had a bad luck and picked one that is problematic.
Hope you solve issues and enjoy your bike, since it is one beautiful beast.
I have a 2023 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special, that I bought in May last year. It is stored in a dry workshop and ridden on tours in any and all kinds of weather. It's been thoroughly soaked and covered in road dirt during regular touring in Europe. It is very thoroughly cleaned and maintained regularly on my return to my home base. I don't have any evidence of the same type of faults reported. I have regularly applied ACF 50 into the switches as I do with all of my other bikes. So far, that seems to be doing the job.......
Guzzis are generally reliable bikes but they’re owned by Piaggio who don’t give a damn so the after sales and parts availability are poor. Quality control is variable, build is often whatever they have to hand as Guzzi is a relatively low volume manufacturer. I know someone whose Stelvio (older version discontinued in 2016) had an out of tolerance frame from the factory! This is reflected in the relatively few dealers in the UK. The blacked out V7 exhausts are well known for marking/peeling. Most big 4 bikes are discounted from new, especially Suzuki so the saving over new isn’t quite as big as it appears. That Harley looked much better with cast wheels. Pan is a great workhorse but very heavy. Another good vid!
My MG has been brilliant so far, and no signs of anything untoward. 👍🏽
Freddy, Freddy, Freddy. I really want to like the V7 and I actually do but the closet dealer is 150 miles away. These tales of woe make me feel very good about purchasing my much loved 2022 W800 standard. It is the definition of Japanese quality and although it or any motorcycle is not perfect it has surpassed all my expectations. Love the lazy low end torque and brisk performance at higher rpms. It's all I need in a motorcycle. Too bad they are not sold in the UK anymore.
Cheers: BJ
Better to keep the W800, as you indicated much better quality.
I too have a W800. I love it. I describe it to people as having excellent "real world" performance. Yep, there are faster bikes, more powerful bikes, bikes with better suspension and brakes and all of the above combined. Despite that, none that I've ridden have really come close to the ease with which I can hustle the W800 along with, be it around town
or going for a bit of a Sunday blast out in the country. For my use case, the W800 does what I think a motorcycle should do exceedingly well.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 It certainly does. It's a wonderful high quality all purpose motorcycle. It's not the most nimble around town. It's not the best handling motorcycle at speed. It's not the fastest motorcycle. It's not the best long distance tourer. It does, however do a combination of all those things remarkably well.
My 2023 V7 Stone hasn't had a single problem in 24,000 miles. It sounds like the guy got a lemon unfortunately.
Freddie, you were right at the first attempt. Puch rhymes with book.
Used bikes prices in UK are crazy, in Portugal you end up spending almost twice as the prices listed there.
Btw I own a V7 and I just love the bike, never let me down, its from 2018 and 20k km on the clock. Regards
Olá Fernando, também estou a fim de comprar uma V7. A sua V7 ainda tem o motor de 750cc, que tem a dizer da performance? É suficiente para uns passeios ou devia ir para o novo 850cc?
@@DNarcisoo Tudo bem! Mais que suficiente, a minha é uma 750cc, a performance é boa não te deixa ficar mal mesmo com pendura, tem um torque muito interessante em baixas! A V7 não é um tipo de naked que convida a uma condução mais desportiva daí achar que o motor chega bem. Tanto quanto já ouvi falar o 850cc está mais refinado e sente se bem a diferença. Se fosse a comprar agora, tentaria comprar já com esta nova versão. No entanto estou satisfeito com o 750cc, muito fácil de manter e bons consumos também. Um abraço
Tubes! Yes reading "J"s comments below I remember using a product which I can't remember the name of sadly in my mountian bike some years ago and it still in there I assume not knowing the life span of the stuff? I 've not had a flat since then and I have to say the pressure seems to hold for long periods .
Slime or similar I'd guess
Interesting as always Freddie, the Suzuki looks like great value!
Hello Freddy,
it is very good to hear something about Motoguzzi which is not such a widespread brand as it deserves among the classics, at least in my opinion. Of course, it's not nice to hear that the owner had problems, but a lot depends on the importer/dealer of motorcycles. If he is good and resourceful, many problems can be solved more easily. On the other hand, as a V7 III owner, I have to say that I had no major problems with the motorcycle. here and there a little thing is the charm of these motorbikes, at least that's how I look at it. The bike is still like new today with no signs of corrosion or wear anywhere. And these exceptions, which happen to all motorcycle brands, as well as other manufacturers, should not deter potential Moto Guzzi buyers. The V7 is a good, beautiful classic that offers a lot of beauty and has its own character. It is true that newer models are unfortunately losing this character
However, I think it is inappropriate to compare the V7 and suzuki gs8x because they are completely different motorcycles. I don't think anyone looking for a classic motorcycle will compare the V7 and gs8x.
Always thought a Kawasaki W800 would be the rock solid option
only issue with my V7 III was a CEL for o2 sensor, easy fix (so easy I haven’t done it lol)
Tubeless conversions are only suitable if your rim is tubeless specific, otherwise it's dangerous.
Moto Guzzi's are great looking and sounding motorcycles. My pick is the Le Mans 850 🤩
The DIY tubeless conversion is definitely interesting. I love spoked wheels, I might experiment with that at my next tyre change
Please do let me know how you get on- it does seem to be legit👌🏻
@@tuesdayatdobbs will do sir 💪
Guzzi quality issues don't surprise me. I've already on a previous Freddie video commented on the chocolate cams on my Griso that Guzzi would not do anything about resulting in the UK Guzzi club taking Piaggio to court. But Piaggio could afford bigger lawyers than the UK MG club who had to withdraw in the face of crippling costs if they lost.
On top of that the bike would often blow a fuse instead of starting because of an electrical design issue which routed the power that operated the starter motor relay (which draws about 25 amps) through a 15 amp fuse AND the ignition switch! I modified my bike using information from the owner internet groups which involved re-wiring a circuit board to introduce a relay into the system. But why should you have to do that?
There were also horror stories on the user groups of headstock bearings and driveshaft gears and bearings wearing prematurely because the factory was omitting greasing these on assembly!
I took a hit on selling that bike and will never touch Moto Guzzi again.
Fascinating, thank you so much for sharing this
I’d love a V85 TT. Ever since I first saw one it was just….I mean, what a bike.
But then I remember it’s a Guzzi and well, I don’t want to be that friendly with my mechanic. I prefer my adventures being about exploring new places, not wondering if it’ll get off the ferry.
My dad and I bought stock V7 bikes. Stone and Classic. We had nothing but problems after problems - and no cure for them. Finally, after many useless guarantee repairs, we gave up and sold them away. The V7 is a beautiful bike, but good for nothing.
I don’t know what is going on right now on the second hand market, but it seems frozen. I’m trying to sell several motorcycles since months, at rather low prices, and there is no interest, no reaction to my ad’s. I’m buying and reselling bikes for many years and I’ve never had any problem before this year. I wonder if the Covid is not the guilty...? It seems that lots of people bought a motorcycle during that period, and now market might be saturated... just wondering. Any idea?
Tubed tyres are best off road and if you do a lot of off road and not much road, just fit mousse inserts and no more punctures ever. Most times with a tubed puncture you can get away with inflating with puncture sealant which should always be carried if you run tubes.
What was he cleaning the Guzzi with? Not typical of the type. Muc off is very corrosive according to my mechanic friend. Was he using that?
I don’t know much about new Guzzis, but the old ones are like tanks. Any bike company that used to or do make police bikes are usually pretty dam good. Guzzis are just Harley’s with the motor turned right way.
Nope !
A mate of mine has two Guzzis, a '73 El Dorado and an '80 something T5. He's had a couple of minor electrical issues with the El Dorado, but nothing that you wouldn't expect on a bike that age. The T5 is in a league of its own, when it comes to reliability. He's got near 200k miles on it. In that time its seen a new clutch, ring gear, uni joint and if I recall correctly, I think that he burned a valve. It's on the original bores and rings and it still pulls like a train! The only real faults with either of these bikes is the front ends are both done for.
Other than that, they're tanks.
About the Guzzi V7 seized rear axle/ring gear or whatever it was.......
That could have been prevented by the dealer applying copper grease at the initial pre delivery inspection before the customer received it.
I had a Moto Guzzi 850 T3 California back in the eighties. I had it for 6 years. Commuting, long rides visiting family and two up camping trips through Germany, France to Italy and back. It had several problems with clutch, gearbox and electrical system. Since then I have ridden Suzuki. I will never get a Moto Guzzi again - not even if I could get it for free.
Superb bike, but I had a few problems… Downpipes replaced after flaking paint, ignition coil and right side switch gear replaced. Other than that was great.
Darcy will be happy
Yes the Pan will go for ever. I was a mot tester for bikes. Be careful with swinging arm they do rot away.
How does this tubliss conversion affect your insurance?? Also is it road legal?
The CRF350Rally is pretty much unridable unless you are around 45kg. Especially if you add luggage. The suspension is so soft, even tiny Noraly had to upgrade the suspension.
Im riding the bigger crf1100, I tried the 300rally. And it bottomed out just by bouncing a tiny bit on the showroom floor. I tried it only on asphalt, but couldn't imagine taking it off road without changing the entire suspension.
Hmm, wonder how a smallish reservoir of NOS would do on a CRF300, just for the long highway slogs, of course....
Just go a bit slower. It's built for fuel economy and reliability. If you want to go fast, get a CRF450RL or a KTM.
I bought a new V7 Special and the quality was horrendous.
After 4 days I notified the dealer of corrosion on the rear wheel, one week later I notified them again of corrosion on the front wheel.
MG blamed me for washing it incorrectly.
A couple of weeks later oil leaking from the shaft drive and the engine casing also corroding.
After a bit of a battle MG fixed everything under warranty.
II sold it after 12 weeks of ownership of which the dealer had it for 8 weeks at a loss of £1200.00.
I went to look at a Moto Guzzi V7 3 weeks ago and was put off by forums that still slate it's quality and reliability!! looked at the BSA Gold Star and also put off by some owners too!!
Forums are full of parrots…. And since ranting is quite common everywhere, combine those two…… a new “truth” is born quickly…
Personally i love Guzzi’s they are the “girl” you can argue with sometimes, maybe a few quirks, but she’s honest, reliable in the end and…. Damn the s*x /“ride” with her is never boring… she’s under your skin.. atleast guzzi’s are under my skin for almost 35 years now… i own and did own a few..
remember that few people go online and make posts about how flawless their bikes are! Go onto car forums and all you see is head gasket, turbo failure etc... I find a balance of them, owner reviews online and the MCN owner section a good yardstick.
Don't forget that many owners don't know how to look after their motorcycles or just neglect the maintenance side.
I have a V9 with just over 5k on the clock. I haven't had any problems so far but the suspension is awful and paint quality is variable quality to say the least, wonderful on the frame but large chunks peeling off the sump and, most conspicuously, the rocker covers, which is very disappointing. Also I live on the coast so am expecting problems in the future. Japanese brands have better quality control without a doubt (I have a Honda and Suzuki, and a Suzuki car) but I still love the Guzzi !
You won't find many more reliable bikes than BMW airheads but I had two bad ones back in 1981. First went rusty in three weeks flat, the replacement was a vibrating pig. BMW changed them without quibble. I think the chap should have gone back to the distributers and complained.
The new cf motos are tubeless on spoked wheels, royal Enfield has a tubeless option on the Himalayan, I hope other manufacturers start to make tubeless spoked wheel options.
the vstrom spoked 650 was tubeless but the new 800 has tubes, seems like a step backwards there.
Old ADV rider was saying that the kit to make tubed tyres into tubeless is fine until you need to adjust the spokes. He said when adjusting the spokes you would 'crack' the seal in the kit and end up having to start over again installing a new seal kit.
Nothing but engine problems (pinking, bent con rod, computer…) bought new 2014. One year of troubles later out of warranty, Piaggio of no help and dealer wouldn’t buy the bike back. However he managed to sell the bike for me at a loss of £4000. So glad to get rid of it. By all means buy a classic carburettored model from the 70’s and 80’s. Beware of the modern bikes and the customer service back up/warrenties.
CRF 300 Rally is a great bike - just keep away from trucks carrying portaloo's!
You said Puch right the last time. ‘Putch’ Cheers from Valencia.
I have always been put off buying a Moto Guzzi because of stories like this. I'd rather like a new CFR300L in Thailand. It looks better than the Rally, and petrol stations are everywhere here. 3,500 GBP new at the recently diminished exchange rate.
I wonder how an insurance company would react in a motorcycle with a DIY tubeless conversion was involved in an accident caused by sudden tyre deflation ? Not a risk I would want to take could be a whole world of trouble, I have two bikes both with tubed tyres a V85tt & a T140, check the tyre pressure regularly it's under inflation that causes most punctures the tubes get nipped on the rim.
Buy any brand new machine in the UK and as soon as you sign on the dotted line you are down 20%, delete the VAT before doing the maths on what you.ve lost, It's not depreciation that costs , It's the tax.
If you know how it works it's less likely to break.
A 7 year warranty with exclusions that will cover normal wear and tear.
Corrosion is normal unless it's stainless steel, titanium,glass,plastic ect.
It could be argued that steel with an anti corrosion finish shouldn't rust but the planet I'm from says it will.
Same goes for aluminium or magnesium alloys.
Freddy… high depreciation is the market saying it’s a crap, unreliable vehicle. Moreover, Moto Guzzi has a poor dealer network, which doesn’t help.
New chain and sprockets at 7000 miles? I'm glad my BSA doesn't chew stuff up like that!
I was a bit curious about that. My Bonneville’s last about 20k miles
19000 miles on my V twin Transalp 700 chain.
7000 is really bad.
the voge rallye 300 is said to be better than the honda off road and is only £3799+otr charges........
Wow, I’ll check this out
Yep - this gets a really good write up. Nathan the Postman gives a very good but realistic review of the Voge Rally 300, its strengths and weaknesses.
If it’s brand new and they rode it like they stole it, because they stole it, then it has probably been redlined and hasn’t been run in properly.😢
Good luck with your insurance when you do a DIY wheel modification and have an accident 😳
Agreed, good point. How to overcome their TT tires that do not have a liner like tubeless tires have.. Also many tubeless tires have a different bead angle to seal. Super Critical to know that.
The original Guzzi California is a great looking and performing bike for the era, particularly the automatic, but later models meh.
I have a year old Honda and can't mention the amount of problems I have had and Honda just blames the owner.
Notice how all the older bikes are NOT FLAT BLACK. They have bright shiny paint, unpainted aluminum, and chrome. Yes, CHROME. There is a guy named Nick Adams, he's in his '70s, and he rides a carbureted '70s Moto Guzzi Eldorado with a million miles on it all over the Canadian wilderness, by himself. It's NOT flat black, and it has no "modern" TRASH technology on it. It just runs and runs and never breaks down.
Moto guzzi great toasters of legs 😂
That gsx8s is sooooo ugly
Good value though at that price
Never compare to Japanese.. They are too damn good.
Do your research on Moto guzzis. They have many issues and I wouldn’t touch one despite desirability is huge
Had a V7 that never ran properly. Traded it for a Triumph, much better.
Almost bought a lemans but after talking to guzzi club members got bmw.
I have owned several Japanese bikes and agree that they are very reliable. But so ugly, so lacking in character. The only bike I had with less character was a BMW GS700. Great bike, but oh so bland.
Guzzi California 1100cc was the most comfortable touring bike I have ever owned. I rode it over some really atrocious outback roads in Australia, loaded with gear and pillion. The only two issues I ever had were a broken side stand (weak design) and a fuel line popped off the tank pump inlet (silly idea ).
I rode a factory V 7 from Italy to Nord Kapp and via several countries, over Stelvio back to Italy. It never got properly run in, didn’t get an oil change in the first 10,000 km, and gave me no problems.
My current V7 has now done 30,000 km on Australian roads, often gravel. The only problem was intermittent contact of the starter button. Probably dust, as I had just done about 1000km on gravel. Fixed it by blowing compressed air and applying some contact cleaner.
Local dealer in Tasmania is great, knows Guzzi’s, so I get it serviced by the guys I bought it from.
As I am nearly 80, the V7 will outlast me.
done 66000km in 16months on the new v7 850, absolute garbage, came from the factory with 5 flaws, which i had to fix via a dealer and were only half covered under warranty. already 1000 euros in and not even ridden. had to stick to their horrible service schedule, another 200-500 euros gone and only done 10k. tachometer failed, shaft drive failed, brakes failed, ecu disconnected, sensors died. ride quality was horse, no lean angle, horrible knee angle, saddle only lasted 15k, air filter and tyres straight into the bin, exhausts weigh 20kg for no reason, cost me 11500 new. never again, the odometer console took 9 months to be delivered, by that time i had sold it into eastern europe. never again
Sadly Guzzi haven't updated their switch gear, which I have to agree, are cheaply made. Water easily gets in, and I ride a lot in the rain so have had to strip my 2019 V7 switch gear a few times. The starter button issue is user error acording to Moto Guzzi 🙄 no. it's a cheap button. However I haven't let those little niggles spoil the fact the v7 is an excellent bike.
It's interesting you seem continually surprised at the price of some of these used bikes. The >125cc motorbike market is falling apart. The only new bikes being sold are GS'es and the used market is flooded by bikes with not enough people to buy them.
Who wants to buy an immaculate sports-naked in October in the UK? Plus I would check the list of exclusions on that suzuki 7-year warranty before you get too excited.
Sounds like Completely Motorbikes have gone into administration in the last few days and sadly I think a lot of other dealers will go the same way. How are these dealers supposed to cover their costs selling 5-10 bikes a month? They're relying on clothes, accessories and servicing to keep the lights on!
For anyone wondering about that suzuki warranty...
Covered Components
Electrical and mechanical factory-fitted components are covered against electrical or mechanical failure;
Other than:
Filters, fuses, spark plugs, worn/warped clutches, brake shoes and pads, discs and cables, oil, fluids, coolant, drive belts, pipes and hoses, lamps and bulbs, high tension leads, wheels, spokes and tyres, batteries and exhaust systems (including catalytic convertors, unless it fails the exhaust emissions standard following a test of exhaust gasses).
General oil leaks due to the failure of any seal or gasket.
Bodywork of any kind, fuel tanks, body panels, paintwork, screens and mirrors (except in the case where they suffer an electrical or mechanical failure), seat covers, exterior trim,
locks, hinges, handles, antenna and cosmetic items, fork legs, tubes and seals.
What's left to cover!?!?!
It's Italian. Constant problems are free with purchase..
Like the T-shirt says, "Moto Guzzi, making mechanics out of riders since 1921."
Do not blame the corrosion on the manufacturer, one trip with salt on the road will do that to any bike.
I'll take a Guzzi every time. Buying a Japanese bike doesn't make you immune to issues, but it's good the owner moved away from Moto Guzzi, stick with your Japanese brands
Allways makes me wonder how rich you are saying this or that bike is only £££££ thousand pounds.. please remember not everyone is dripping with cash ...guzzis are often seen at bike rallies usually ridden by guy's who knows how to spanner and do some serious milage.. also not the first choice for the thief's so less likely to be stolen
😂 You would think his accent would give his target audience away!
Freddie owns a well worn Bonneville and a used Jeep, and you can’t figure out if he’s “dripping with cash” or not? Are you blind in both eyes?
@@cowmath77 he has, he has told us, about 7 separate sources of income and clearly comes from money, so probably doing OK (and good on him!)
Having owned 4 moto Guzzi 24:40 california s I can say they are very reliable ..the relays should be changed for newer ones that's it had I think 10 moto guzzis in all not had a problem with any of them .
bikes are cheap toys for most mate. if the average person skipped 1 annual holiday (google it), they could buy the second hand bikes that Freddie talks about. When they're new and PCP is less than £100 a month, how can you whinge?
Honda CRF 300 has a 34.5" seat height! You need long legs to ride one of those!
Ahhhh ok…. I did not clock on to this- thank you for sharing
And tubed tyres!
But is so soft from factory that normal guy weighting 85kg sag 50% of the suspension
You don’t. They compress a lot when you sit on them.
Oh talk about generation gap 😁
Im 58 years old and I can assure you that tubeless tyres only became a thing in the 80's and even then only on bigger bikes.
To say tyres with tubes for a road bike is dangerous sounds bloody daft to me
Japanese reliability along with Japanese boredom. As one wise moto-scribe once noted, "If the only motorcycles made were Japanese, I'd give up riding and buy a nice Italian sports car."