The BMW K1: The Rare, Compromised Poster Bike- 36 Years On
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
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Time Stamps:
0:00: Intro and Libertatia Tool Rolls
1:00: Impossibly Big Motorcycle Insurance Premiums for Young Riders
7:51: An Australian Road Trip (Moto Guzzi V85TT)
9:26: French Temptation for New Riders (Kawasaki Z650RS)
11:48: Great Value Biking: Triumph Tiger 955
15:35: The Minsk D4 125
17:55: Triumph Thruxton RS (Harley Davidson Sportster, Kawasaki ZRX1200, Suzuki Varadero)
25:30: The BMW K1
Hi Freddie, my friend had same issue after passing his test, although he was in his 40s the insurance quote was high.
He added me as a named rider as I have full NCD and have rode for 40 years plus, it reduced his insurance by £400
Thanks Kev
Hope your paying for NCB/D protection on that policy! (The policy issued will be based on your NCB, I got protection on my car policy and its was only like £20 a year - look into it, or at least ask)
Very useful tip, I’ll pin this comment. Thanks Kev
Random experience of the day. I was out today on Guernsey where I live and the ONLY motorcycle I saw in the course of my drive, was a BMW K1, in red with yellow lettering!
No way!!
Head office is still at Hinckley they still make bikes (selected models ) the heart of design and R&D is still at Hinckley with a small percentage done in Spain 🇪🇸 with over a million development miles under my belt I know this to be true 😂☝️
I bought a low mileage 1989 K1 in 1995 and rode from the UK to Valencia in Spain. Once I had acclimatized to the strange riding position, it proved to be extremely comfortable with amazing aerodynamics in a straight line. The downside was that fairing and faired front wheel acted like a sail in sidewinds. Any bike using that "brick" 4 cylinder engine is worth considering, as they are great to ride and economical.
My dream bike when I was about 20 years old. Almost 30 years later got a 93 K1100RS, heavy and ponderous steering but still runs like a dream
Insurance is insanity. Ive just forked out a small fortune to insure the CF 450 in the city... at one point they wouldn't quote me unless the bike was in my name, which meant buying the bike before I could get a set quote - it's become a luxury to own any vehicle. Great vlog Freddie, really informative.
I was blessed to have a K1 for 3 years. Lovely bike. It was a shame my knees stopped play and I had to get something less cramped. No way was it only 99bhp. BMW probably lied, although I did have a Harman chip installed.
Love the K1 looks, I remember seeing it in the magazines back in the day.
Thanks 🙏 for putting my bike trip up on my Moto Guzzi V85tt in Australia. If you ever get to Australia for a ride , are happy to help you out in anyway I can .
Regards
Paul
Freddie regarding bikes not being used, I bought my Ducati Scrambler Sixty2 last December, it was eight years old at the time with just 3.2k miles covered with the majority of those miles having been done by the first of two owners in the first two years then the second owner only put miles on it when having it MOTd, serviced or the odd short ride out, it has documented history and looks as if it's fresh off the production line, what a find but it was a premium price that I was happy with and especially with my classic Honda P/X that was fair.
So yes bikes do sit in garages and just get looked at by their owners for whatever reason especially if it's something special, I'm guilty of that myself.
I don't do many miles these days as I'm now considered old, probably 6 or 7 hundred miles during the summer months so it should stay in immaculate condition and ultra low mileage.
Hi Freddie,
I learnt to ride via BMW's Rookie to Rider Scheme in 2017, as it was the cheapest way to get going a bike! I paid £500 deposit which got me £1200 worth of riding gear, 7 days training at their flagship in Royston (£1350 at the time!) and after passing my test paid £99 for a 2 year PCP G310r. Highly recommend it!...
For someone who ashamedly failed their CBT twice as a teenager🤫 and looked liked I was going fail by day 3 of the training.... I passed With expert 1:1 support! Highly recommend if you don't feel that confident, plus the current deal still looks great. Who doesn't want to pass their CBT on a 750 GS!? 😊
Hi Freddie, I’m a young man in Australia and I have chosen to gamble with only having 3rd Party insurance.
I have a 300cc Kawasaki versys 2022 which I got second hand for $6,000(aud) and I love it to pieces. Yet when quotes for comprehensive insurance cost on average $3,000 (aud) a year. It seems I would be better off saving my money and if the worst happens, buying another bike with that money.
People also forget that the insurance companies do NOT want to pay you out. They can and will screw you over by the smallest of loopholes.
I've had this same issue with my first 08 R6, it got stolen within 2 months no insurance. My dumb ass didn't learn so I got my second r6 which got stolen within 3 days but atleast i purchased insurance just in case before I was able to schedule a proper garage for it. Atleast insurance paid out. I rode a simpler bike that nobody wanted for 10 years a 2006 f650gs saving money. Got to the point I could afford to have my own garage and now I have R6 again. in the meantime since i'm older insurance got cheaper.
I bought a Triumph 955ST in 2010 - brilliant sports tourer and my wife’s favourite bike as a pillion. Curiously my son has just bought one for circa £1k tour ready with factory panniers and top-box. Some absolute bargains out there.
Minsk 125 - basic, reliable and,😮, a carburettor and no abs…etc. No wonder they are reliable and go on for 100k.
I had a K1 in Australia. Great bike but got hot on my leg right hand side. At 200 km per hour it hummed along and no wind on me. Very stable bike.
Freddie you should do a eicma special.
The Honda GB350s is announced for europe! *Yay* 🙂
You must have heard of Emlyn Hughes , Liverpool footballer and captain of a question of sport team on BBC 1
I suspect Freddie is of a different generation to the majority of his followers 😅
andrewdyson4255
Crazy horse
I googled a photo of him- absolutely no recollection of him unfortunately😳
Freddy trying to make sense of bike insurance will only end up in a headache.
I know I know😆
You simply can't make sense of madness 🤯
@ironkcirb285 my 22yo son got third party only quotes that were HIGHER than the fully comprehensive quotes. It's insane, there has to be a better way..
Freddie, lots of Triumphs are still built in the UK. According to MCN, Triumph planned to ramp up production of bikes at its Hinkley plant to 20,000 units in 2023. Both my Tiger 900 and Speed Triple RR were both made there.
@qtronicqilt8898 In my spares collection, I've got OEM parts made in the U.K, France, Thailand, Japan and China
Still have my 1997 Primrose/Chequer K1200RS sulking and retired in the garage. Build quality is off the scale. Would love to turn it into a Monotracer. Or see it go to a good home.
Not sure I'd be bothered about buying an older bike that hasn't even been run in. I would hope it would have been started every week at least and not drained of every thing for its years doing nothing. Great topics as always
Good onya Freddie, thanks for the entertainment. Full service history hahahaha.
I just bought the new Honda translap 2023 plate 4000 miles on the clock previous owner had added nearly every accessory in the catalogue Just under £7399 Couldn't be happier and loved your review Saw the new 2025 model had been announced yesterday but barely any changes happy to know I'm not missing out on too much
My old Tiger 2012 1050SE was built at Hinckley. They still made bikes there when i had a private tour in 2017.
I bought one of the last Tiger 955i in April 2007. They were being sold at £6k with panniers, centre stand and heated grips to clear stock before the 1050 came in. It was a great bike, very comfy with torquey engine. As mentioned elsewhere, it was top heavy for those without long legs and I sold it after 15 years, as I couldn’t pick it up after it got away from me once, for £2,800. Disadvantage of hitting 60 - though on another topic, the advantage is fully comp insurance for 3 bikes for around £240!
They were certainly a lot of bike for the money, and even back in 2007 6k was a steal for a new bike. They never really caught on with the wider biking community, i think maybe because they were blessed with looks only a mother could love… however, they were also blessed with that peach of an engine, so if you rode one, and could cope with the weight and height, they won you over. Something of a “those that know bike”. And yes, I think there were many like you and I who had to pick it up a few times… naturally top-heavy, with fully loaded luggage and a large tank of fuel made it precarious when coming to a standstill. I used mine for the trip from Cumbria to London at weekends to see my other half down there and it was very comfortable for 5 hours in the saddle.
Being short of leg i developed a method of setting off with one foot on the near side peg, in gear, then swing the other leg over as you accelerated away from a standstill, with the clutch control of a trials riding legend.
@@rogerwredfordRespect! 😅
Thank you for including my comments in this weeks podcast. You're content really is a highlight of my week 👌
Thanks Duncan, that’s really kind of you to say so
Great video as usual Freddie!
Thanks Dave🙌🏻🙌🏻
Came very close to buying a K1 many years ago, got a GSX1100EFE instead. I'd have one now.
On the subject of the 955 Tiger, yes reammy good bikes, lovely torquey triple, and comfortable, but having had one as a vertically chqllenged 5’6” pygmy with a 29” inside leg, they are a handful and not for the inexperienced rider. I had been riding for a long time when I had one, but with a full tank of fuel they were very top heavy, and once they started to go, there was no stopping them. They’ve caught out many a short rider. Nice and cheap, reliable and quick and robust, but not for the faint hearted…. Seem to recall they were developed to challenge the GS back in the day and were aimed at strapping German riders.
Hi Freddie. Great show as usual. I would think twice about an older bike with ridiculously low mileage. There’s no telling if any of the mechanical parts have seized, and it would certainly have questionable rubber seals and gaskets which will perish over time. With respect to the insurance quotes, I noticed that the last one was TPFT, and sometimes going fully comprehensive is cheaper. It would have been a useful experiment to just choose one bike and one location, and see if the addition of Thatcham locks, a tracker, passing approved advanced riding courses, etc would make some difference. Duncan might find that spending a few hundred quid on approved locks and trackers might save even more in the insurance, so at the very least, in the first year he’s saved the cost of purchasing those items.
Just heard of the new release of the Royal Enfield Classic 650. Absolute stunner! I especially LOVE that metallic powder blue colour and also the black chrome. Cant wait to see content from u on this.
My 2002 daytona 955 Centennial was built at Hinckley Freddie , made in Great Britain on the nose cone 🏍️🏁🇮🇲🏴
I recently Sold, or rather traded my 2007 XL1000V Varadero. Identical to the one you showed. It had 105.000km on the clock. It was in very good condition. I traded it straight off for a 2003 BMW K1200GT with 60.000km. Lovely bikes both of them. I've previously only had V-twins (Cruisers and 3 Varaderos and one 2006 V-strom 1000) I haven't really gotten used to the Forward leaning K1200 yet. But it's interesting to ride a Big 4cylinder Bike. Now looking at replacing the K1200 with a K1600.
Something that made me chuckle - my insurance was the exact same £600 I paid day 3 of my CBT, as it was day 3 of passing my full A license at 24 with 6 years car NCB on that same 125cc bike. Now I have two 900cc bikes for £600 together, but only third party as to go fully comp would be 5k a year. rather buy a new bike each year. After 1 year of bike no claims, my tracer went from £864 to £600 a year, plus a BMW F900R for £0 as a multibike policy.
Great vlog as usual Freddie. Ref insurance. It's not just Bike's, I've a 2016 BMW 335 tourer £900 per year for me and my son, Looking at insurance for a year old M3 tourer £460 wtf 😂 honestly couldn't understand this industry at the moment 😊
Lots of good stuff touched on as usual. Thanks for a great presentation
The Triumph 955i Tiger was one of my all time favourite bikes , never had a major issue ( one small electrical issue) I also had the 800 and 1050 Tiger Sport . But yes 955i made in Britain Hinckley Factory.
There are five k1's on autotrader as i type this. On a similar left field styling theme i quite fancy a k1200r before i reach dotard or death.
Thanks for this on both points, Shane. I’ll be checking out these K1200rs
God those k1s were ugly. Great tuesday. Thanks dobbsey. ❤
Those Thruxtons are nice but all I think of when I see one, especially with the dustbin fairing, is Honda GB500/400 TT from 1985. It's like a modern cover song of something that was already a cover song.
Have you ever tried to buy a good GB500?
If you can get your hands on one, you pay more now then they ever costed new.
It is a beautiful bike, but parts are very difficult to find, and thus expensive.
@@janzzen9095There are 4 for sale here in NZ on the local auction site. (400 & 500) all for between NZ$4-5K. One of the 400s has the fairing.
They were a bit slow even when they came out and always appeared a little 7/8ths size and were relatively cheap when new. I had/have a soft spot for them but would never own one for their gutlessness.
They always appeared like a pastiche but a very well executed one. Hence the Thruxton equivalence.
10:59 That's a nice looking Bike!
2025 colours are even better!!
I pay just under US$500 a year for full insurance on a 2023 BMW R NineT here in Seattle (mind you I'm over 50 yrs old). £200 a month is nuts. I also took the test on a 125CC scooter in Michigan in 1985 - sat there and watched guys on 700lb Harleys flunk out while I whizzed around the course and passed.
Things haven't changed that much Freddie. I bought a Triumph T140E Bonneville in 1981 aged 19. Its cost me £370 to insure it for the year. Using an inflation calculator, that is the equivalent of £1,777 today. Bear in mind back then thefts were rare, bike were less powerful and traffic was light (fewer accidents). Its always been painful for young riders I'm afraid. One of the few benefits of getting old. My current enfield is under £100 a year.
In Iowa in the USA it costs $60.00 to take the tests and get a driver's license. The average cost for insurance in Iowa is $216.00 per year.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing this
@@tuesdayatdobbs You're welcome, Freddy. I really like your videos.
I doublechecked: no wonderdeals like that here in Germany.
I’ve only ever seen a K1 once and it was in the red and yellow colour scheme, they were heavy and long as well as being very expensive and at the time a lot of existing BMW owners preferred the lighter, nimbler handling, cheaper boxer engined bikes. I’ve owned quite a few BMW’s over the years, mostly air head and oil head boxers, an F650st single and very briefly a K100rs ( I found it too heavy and lacking character compared to the boxer engined bikes although much quicker)
This is CRAZY!
I dont insure my GN125 because insurance is the almost the full value of the bike per year...
I am in NZ... My Tracer 700 costs $650/year- (to insure for $9k) so that is actually not bad when I see the UK prices!!
(My prices in $NZD 😂 so my insrance is £300/ year)
My girlfriend brought a Benelli 125cc which you can ride on the road here in Spain if you have a full driving licence and they gave her 1 years free insurance. We live on La Gomera and brought the bike on Tenerife.
Get an older bike to run every day, zr7 2001 10,000 miles a year.... £92 fully comp, my weekend bike Zx9r 1997 3000miles a year.... £68 fully comp, ridden since I 17, 52 now, and live just outside Winchester in the south. Easy home maintenance and both just as quick and reliable as modern day stuff.
Your age is the major factor in that price not the bikes.
@sergentcolon1 nope, 20+ yr old bikes, making the difference. To insure a new de800 Strom, £480 limited to 5000 a year!. Why? It's slower, heavier ,probably less reliable, I can rebuild all my bikes without a plug. No brainer really.
@ try insuring the same bike as a 21 year old and see the difference. I’m 62 and most bikes are cheap for me to insure with donkeys years of experience and full no claims
I was paying just over £100 for a 2 year old Suzuki Vstrom 1000xt
@@sergentcolon1 blimey, that's good
One of the benefits of age, I have rebuilt a Keeway RKS125, no NCD, no bike for 15 plus years - £135 fully comp. I have also just bought a wrecked Tiger for £175 plus fees - thoughts and prayers please 🤣, Oh and don't forget classic insurance for 20 plus year old bikes
When i win the euromillions I'm going to setup a specialist insurance company for young riders with affordable premiums.
I love this👌🏻👌🏻
An excellent way to become a milionaire... If you're a Bilionaire.
Buy an airline?
Classic example of a lottery winner becoming broke in a couple of years. That's not becoming a business owner that's becoming a patron.
@DiscoFang Patron. I'd like that. Help people.
I can’t believe the young Scottish lad Duncan’s insurance quotes, for his HondaCB500x. I ride the same bike in Cornwall. I’m 63 with good NCB. I only pay £79 for fully comp with a passenger and my bike stored outside. No wonder youngsters are going to driving cars. They can pass a test, pick up a cheap car without any of the hassle or extortion.
Just to piss you off, prices in Greece...
Harley Road King: 160 euros per year
Royal Enfield Super Meteor: 130euros per year
Car, BMW 316ti: 200 euros per year
I can't believe the UK prices I hear in your videos. Sure, different levels of incomes and living costs, but this is out of proportions!
Freddie, my 17 yr old daughter rides a Suzuki gn125 1998. We have just re insured her for £860 with Bennett, one yr NCB. It was very bizarrely CHEAPER to go Fully Comp by nearly £200. Tp and tpft were all more expensive, the lady we delt with was super helpful. We are in Southampton.
I'm a 58yo male. Full comprehensive is cheaper than third-pary, fire&theft on ALL my vehicles. It's bizarre. But if anyone knows the figures and return on the way they do marketing it's insurance co's.
btw good to see the ol' GN is still a go-to bike on the other side of the world. Here in New Zealand the GN125 is seen in the motorcycle learner schools. The GN125 & 250 go back to my learner days in the early 80's! Is there a longer lasting uglier bike? I mean more "charming" bike?
@DiscoFang Good to see they are a world wide bike still. Tbh "Pedro" was chosen for A his seat height and B his lower insurance price my daughter loves him.
@@robx5205Yeah the seat height and handlebar position make them still one of the best learner bikes ever. Hilariously I have a friend who is 6’4” built like chewbacca who got his license a few years ago. He asked what I thought about the GN125 and I laughed and said he better sit on one. He ended up with a GN250 for the first year and he looked like a camel on a kids chopper.
If the Bike has Been sitting around for
Many Years with very Low miles
I Would hope the the Oil / Brake
Fluid/ Coolant was Drained
Would the Tyres be Past use By
Date? Things to Consider
I rode in the Middle East and I’m 62. I decided that I needed 2 wheel in the UK in preparation for retirement. As an old geezer and having passed my test in June, I now have a CBR650R and RE Super-Meteor (both brand new) and my combined insurance cost is under GBP 400. I could understand young folks being penalized except the test system is set up to ensure riders are so much more prepared and experienced. It’s sad that young folks are being priced out of enjoying bikes.
I would be interested to know the breakdown of sales between the ted and yellow and blue and yellow version? I've never ridden a sports bike but loved the K1 from BMW 😮
"As an ornament" I think translates as sitting unused, ignored and not started in the side of the garage amoungst the crap for 17 years.
Regarding the insurance quotes, I noticed when speaking with the advisor, they have started asking will you be carrying a pillion, and I asked her when she quotes for a car they don't ask "will you be carrying passengers in your car " when I quizzed her on it she was stumped , I wonder is this a new thing they've dreamt up for motorcyclists
They have been asking me for a number of years if I want pillion cover. I guess there is the potential for a larger claim if 2 people are injured in an accident rather than just the rider. Accept your point on cars but suppose you are more vulnerable on a bike.
I have just realised that, according to the country of manufacture, my bike is a Triumph Thaiger 😂😂😂
Younger riders - theres lots of bikes out there you can get insured "cheaply", dont think sport bikes, (for example a triumph scrambler 900 is very cheap to insure!) that said no-one realistically needs a 1000cc bike on the uk roads either, i had a 400c VFR i rode for many years in my 20s, using my no claims from my year on a 50cc at 16, and a couple of years on a 125cc meant it was cheap.
the main thing people forget or what the industry is kinda telling us these days is that an Mt07 is a "beginner" bike and if you haven't got any NCB or riding experience its going to cost you, but as a 21 Year old with 3 years riding experience and 3 yrs ncb, £600 for the year inc pillion passenger, the years experience on a 125 etc will also make you a better rider, even just 1 year experience will make it cheaper
of course hop on the same bike with 0 ncb and - 0 experience 1st bike your insuring at 21 and its £3,500
when i was in my 20s its was common for people to insure a non running 125cc stick it in their garage unridden and then buy a bike they wanted to ride the next year, i don't recommend doing that as that as the riding experience will certainly help you out but it was certainly what a lot people did.
Years ago I was living in Austin, Texas and was a BMW rider. Became friends with the local dealer and he called me to invite me down to see the new K1. It was pre-sold, but if I hurried down I could look it over before the owner showed to pick it up. I was a little late and the owner was out doing a check up ride. When he came rolling back in, one side was completely scratched up. He had hit gravel tuning into a parking lot on his test ride. Felt awful for him.
Freddie get some quotes for a classic bike for a 21 year old & see how they compare. Eg, Suzuki GP100/125 1980's era ....you may be Surprised!
Try getting quotes in Northern Ireland mate! My 18 year old daughter is getting £2.5k quotes even from MAG!! At least the terrorists had the good manners to wear a balaclava when they were robbing you!
I find it hard to comprehend how bikes can have so few miles on them? I have had a lot going on over the last few years and have done very little riding just for fun. Admittedly, my bike is my only transport and so has been used for commuting and shopping. I have still managed to put over 5,000 miles on my bike, which is about half my usual mileage. I have had bikes and put 2-300 miles on them in the first day!?
Why you asking if Hinckley is where Triumphs head office is? You were there yourself on this yrs distinguished gentlemans ride with The Wurks. And I'm pretty sure you mentioned its Triumphs headquarters and it was your first visit
Aye Up! Let me dismantle your Video n words and send it to the CPS
I had a vfr800 fi and a 955 tiger at the same time. The vfr was like a 20 yrs more advanced. The triumph was horrible compared. Just my pov. I know many love them.
Also, all the 1200 Tigers are built in Hinkley.
Have you seen the new RE 650 classic ? What a absolute beauty 😍
Yep! LOVE it😍😍
Is Freddie related to that Judge Rimmer ?
Looks like a potential Rimmer. 😉
Thanks both!!🤣🤣
I Forgot to add the total discount in my story : in the end i will pay 6000 pounds instead of the 7200 initial price tag on the bike (including the loan fees), about the insurance i managed to find 53 pounds a month for a full insurance (through a motorcycle specialized insurance)other companies were crazy expensive
That is superb value! May I ask how old you are, Etienne?
@@tuesdayatdobbs Of course, 26 years old.
I would love your opinion on Janus motorcycles.
The K1 was never supposed to be the bike for "Hans Mustermann" to ride every day. Back in the day it was publicly perceived more to be an exercise in motorbike engineering, where BMW could show off their capabilities. The interestingly calculated price made it more like something of a 2-wheeled M1, or Ferrari if you wish.
Buying a bike which has been sitting in a garage for a considerable amount of years is not always a good idea. Did that a couple of years ago and would have been better off with buying a new bike. Sealings and gaskets had been hardened out, so engine, fork and carbs were leaking all over the place. Tyres were, of course, rubbish, and almost all hydraulic components were broken. After having had calulated the costs of making the bike roadworthy again, i sold it for parts and bought me a new motorbike. Harsh lesson was harsh and expensive.
I've also seen a very low mileage Ducati with a rusty gearbox.
What bike and how long standing?
@@NewWorldHoarder Ttiumph Thunderbird - almost 10 years, i reckon.
@NewWorldHoarder a 916 for about ten years.
@@paulbudford sorry Paul, I was asking the other fella, but thanks for replying. Would love a nice 916 if I could find one, even though my back wouldn’t speak to me again lol. (I’m way too tall for the 90’s Ducati sports bikes)
I feel Duncan’s pain… I am 42 with 3 points on my license and my insurance on a street triple RS is £11 a month 😢
Bear, Classic Twin 650 and Flying Flea out now. Would love to get your opinion.
Just checking up on this now!
Ahhh mate. The Bridle Track ain't that terrifying. Columbian Rds are worse.
There are the odd bike over drop on the Bridle, but the worst I heard was a ute crushing a rider against a rockface when driving on the wrong side at a blind corner.
Im absolutely SHOCKED at the cost of insurance in the UK. Here in the US (Georgia) I can obtain minimal coverage for my Moto Guzzi V7 III for about $150 a YEAR!
In the 80's when I was in late teens I bought a 750, and the insurance was a third/quarter of the purchse price. Its always been expensive for young riders but I never needed to claim - are all younger riders a greater risk? Lately talking to older bikers they didn't insure in those days due to the cost. Now I'm old insurance is cheap but i stll ride the same.
I'm planning on doing my cbt soon so I checked up insurances.
125cc on a provisional more expensive than a honda 500cc on a full with the licence for less than 1 month of each licence
Triumph rocket 3 😂 would only cost me £658 a year with a full for under 1 month 😂
37 years old
This is incredible😆
I pay more to insure a 125 aprilia than a classic 350 in north essex and I'm 50 still only 150 quid per year.😎👍
I recently sold a Kawasaki Z550 to a girl . Now i have taken it back because the insurance companies wont cover her because as a new rider they are insisting that the bike has ABS . What a load of bull. That would mean that most of us mature riders would now not exist if that stupid rule had been enforced back in the day. Surly after jumping through all of the hoops that they require to pass a test they are capable of riding a bike with no ABS. If not they are not ready for our modern roads .
I lustied after a K1 in the eighties but settled for a K100RS, it wasn't called the flying brick for nothing and for a BMW it had very disappointing build quality.
Bike test is very simple and easy if you’re over 24. Costs less than £1000 all in. Buying the latest and greatest bikes will cost you in all manner of ways. Buy something simple that can be serviced by yourself. I’m finding this part out right now.
and the gen one sprint st & rs 955i.
Old bikes with low miles?? My theory is this: Middle aged bloke. Kids have flown. mortgage paid off. Wants to be a biker/poser. Takes test. Buys bike and all the posing gear. Realises that biking can be cold and wet, that people in cars are trying to kill him, that riding a bike needs a few skills and scares himself going round corners. Puts bike in garage until wife makes him sell it 😂😂😂
That or the guy who works to much and has too many bikes that he can’t find the time to ride (see amount of work). Might have a boat as well (hardly gets used) and a holiday home he uses 1 week every year.
I bought a Triumph Trident 900 from a dealer in Leeds, 2 years old with 200 miles on the clock. The previous owner had bought it, ridden it home to Blackpool and then ridden it back to Leeds 2 years later to sell it!
I’m 71, ride my Bonneville all year round, should I give up riding because I don’t fit your criteria?
@ Not at all. You are a proper biker. I was talking about “new” middle aged bikers who soon realise that biking doesn’t suit them. 😀
Did I understand this correctly? The cost of annual insurance for the 125cc exceeded the price of the bike. Is insurance mandatory in the UK?
3rd party insurance is. You are not just insuring the cost of the bike against theft or crash damage but the potential compensation to 3rd parties as a result of an accident.
Hi Freddie. I think the insurace companies have the cream of the milk all the time. As the law states that we must have insurance by law to regester the bike.
I live in aus and find insurance as bad here as it is in the uk.
Im 61 years young with max no claims bonus. We have ti have compulsory third party to regester here. My 2023 sport glide travels less than 5klm annualy costs $586. If i want to insure the bike for anything else than the other person in the event of an accident the comprehensive insurance cost an extra $785 this is with a harly specific company with being a member of the hog group. Without the membership the quote i had was $1200 plus. Then add on the rego for the bike at $290 all of a sudden the great hobby we have is looking more like an expence. Thinking that the power to be want us to reduce traffic and pollution parking cojestion. Why are as motorcyclist we not being hailed as earth worriers and being helped by the authorities. Many thanks for another great show.
Radical opinion, insurance costs are whats effecting the motorcycle industry and the sales of a new motorcycle.
More dealers gonna close, less people are gonna get new bikes
With insurance quotes like that, Duncan must be well pissed off. Mind you, I would rather be 21 again paying £2,000 for insurance than an old croc ( like me!) paying £55 fully comp.
That K1 just sold for £1221
Someone got a bargain.
Ahhhh thank you so much for sharing this!
My friend had a K1,great bike 🏍
Crazily of my four bikes the most valuable one (A Harley Davidson) is the cheapest to insure……. Insurance prices literally make zero sense
Insurance suggestion. Buy a cheap bike and get 3rd party only?
There’s a K1 on Autotrader
29:13 and sadly an absolute thief magnet 😮
Questions for anyone who can answer......Can anyone shed light on insurance companies justifying charging atmospheric amounts for modest bikes like the CB500 for younger riders? I'm staggered at the prices being charged. Are younger riders truly high risk?
Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em
You took that on the chin. Good man! A good chanel x
Not government meddling. It was an industry voluntary limit of 100hp.
Which was sparked by the 105HP of the first Honda CBX.
Tbh, I wouldn’t insure a 20 year old for a Ducati Multistrada either. (More expensive, more powerful, higher repair cost motorcycle with a 20 year old at the helm). What did this lad think coming from his CBX premiums???
Insurance companies aren’t idiots. It’s a business. That’s a bad bet.
Why don't young riders buy a classic bike, therefore boosting the classic bike market, lower insurance for the rider and introduction to a great biker scene. They will also learn how to maintain said classic which can't be a bad thing 😊