Crazy really. My parents bought an XR2 brand new in ‘87, I think it was £7500… which was also a pretty big spend considering their house cost £16k 4yrs prior to that.
Many years ago I worked on a farm, the grandson and his fiance had a 190e 2.5 - 16v Cosworth it was an awesome car, he also owned a VW Caddy Spor(he also had a 911 track car) his mum owned a red M5 (1986). Back then I wasn't old enough to drive, but I did get to be a passenger in the Cosworth, M5 and Caddy Sport on numerous occasions (memories have stayed). Thank you Johnny and the owners in this barn find video.
K-Jetronic tech here (Ex Saab). Your over thinking it a bit Johnny, they are not that complicated. The Fuel metering Pintle is probably stuck, and the injectors will all be Gummed up. So a fuel system service / mini Resto, with a new pump and it will be good to go.
The outside temperature is shown in the instrument cluster. The gauge in the middle console is a laptimer and can show an avarage speed driving a mile / or a Km. Nothing advanced.
Just to add, my late father purchased a 600SL in two tone green in 1993 from a Mercedes dealer in Bristol for £93K and as standard it didn't come with a stereo.. nothing has changed..
In 2002, when these had hit rock bottom, I was driving to Preston to swap my 88 alpina B10 for one of these, both were in the 3-4k range at the time. About 20 mins from the destination, my big end bearings decided to explode! That was a sad day for sure. Incidentally, I swapped the broken alpina for an Audi coupe like the one featured here, but alas not a 20v.
Couple of times I came close to buying one of these but the ones I looked at were multi-owner cars that had clearly been caned by one or more of the owners. As a former 2CV owner the gear change was easy enough for me to get my head around. I also came close to buying an Audi S2 quattro, but someone offered me an ST 185 Celica GT4 for a price I couldn't refuse. Still a great looking and sounding car.
Coupe quattro 20v is a rare thing, I had one a little while back but had to move it on due to a lack of space, I seriously regret letting it go. From Audi's golden era.
Please get around to going back and driving it when it’s on the road. It’s such a great sounding car and would be so interesting to see what it’s like. Another lovely family in the video and as ever you know exactly how to draw the best out of them.
One of my old bosses had some lovely old SLs and what at the time I thought was a 190e with a body kit. It was years before I realised what it actually was. What a great car to own now. Surely rarer than a M3
Amazing car, in the early nineties my grans nextdoor neighbour was a car dealer and he also raced single seaters and he had a 190 cosworth and he took me out in it a few times and believe me he could drive and ever since I have loved the 190 cosworth, thank you dai twice (David Davies).
This car is amazing what a lot of people don’t know that they drive and handle so well🙏 it has real character when you push it,,,,really changes the whole experience amazing car
I ashamed to say I saw the title, thought it must be a Fowwurds and decided to watch it later. Then heard it was a 190E on S&S and that brought it up the schedule!
Those injectors will be blocked solid and the fuel distributor will need rebuilding. I had the same on a DeLorean that sat for over 20 years, they also have the jetronic injection, great show as always Jonny
You’ve got to love these Barn Find episodes - not just for the cars, but for the beautiful characters and their family who have a history with these machines ❤️
Great video Johnny. One thing though. The 2.5 in not a cossie. The 2.3’s were designed and made by cosworth but the 2.5’s were all built by Mercedes in house.
Thankyou so much for showing this and thanks to the owners for letting us in on it not just the one car but an eclectic gaggle of top cars but the mercedes 190 gets my vote more please johnny😊
I recently found out that Audi are still doing it when I repaired a new shape A3. I was incorrectly supplied a LHD mirror cover for the right side of an RHD car and it was bigger, only slightly so not obvious to look at.
Got one of those, about 10 years since I drove mine been restoring it it is in the paint shop at the moment, video inspired me to get it finished, mine is 2.3. Door cards always shrink in the sun and the centre clock is usually a stop watch, exhaust should be a twin outlet pointing down
Was apprentice in Mercedes dealer in 93, I loved the SL500 and 600 and the Sec models. Was taken out in the back yard in a 2.5 and was mind boggled with the performance it provided as a 4 cylinder, the length of the gears was especially impressive when the foot is on the floor. dog leg tricky apparently, not unknown to launch one to find out it's in reverse🙄👀
Brother had one here in NZ back in the early 90s. I remember sitting in the back of it hurtling around a race circuit while he was being shown the approaches to the corners by the owner of the race car my brother had just purchased. Fun times.
Another very enjoyable film great Sunday eve viewing . What an amazing thing to have tucked away in the garage owned since new and in amazing condition ( these were terrible rust buckets at the time and few survived rust free) love the fact it started after a bit and ran didn’t expect this one to be a runner. The owner is a great guy you should try him to come and help on some other ones he just stuck right in and gets on with it!
Wow blown away with this episode . Just seeing same as my Audi 90 5CYL.. 20V AGAIN . I decated mine and straight piped to back box .sounded amazing . If you go back clean the Audi .❤
Another great episode perfect Sunday fodder, Lovely car. Lots of lovely cars but lovely expression on the mum when she realised she was being feeling brilliant
I worked with a guy who had one of these about 15 years ago, it still looked great but he wanted to restore it. They were just starting to get a rep for being a future classic at the time as opposed to just the knowing nod from people who knew, think Top Gear had featured one around the time as well.
Nice! I remember when my friends’ mum turned up in a brand new H reg 190D 2.5. They ran that car for years and I think it’s still parked up rotting away on their farm 😢
My dad had a new 190E in mid 80’s. Great car. My cousin and I managed to put in on its roof on a gravel road. Needed a new roof and other bit and pieces, but ran great after that
What a nice family. So good to see such real ordinary people. It's the reason I watch this channel and others like it. Although I'm neither a Merc or BMW fan( or Subaru for that matter) you absolutely do need to get back there. Those cars have a story x
maaaaate. THIS was my dreamcar for a good many years. I used to first drool over the Ford granada 2.8i Ghia for some years in the black with red stripes color and interior and then this monster turned up. We had a friends father buy one in black and he was an accountant not at ALL interested in cars so god knows how the merc dealer convinced him to buy this thing as it was insanely expensive. One day when my friend got the license to drive his father had already had it like 6 years but WOW the feeling when we drove off in it the first time. Black color with black paint/black leather interior. What a fantastic machine.
Great video once again! One of my old bosses had a series of 190’s back in the day and would have loved one of those. I’m sure you’ll be back there for more fun times! 😊
Great collection of cars. Love the story about the void warranty. Brilliant that they really didn’t need to worry about that. The reliability came through for them by the sounds of it 😎
That's a cool car, and it looks very well. About the side mirrors: it wasn't the only car that had different size mirrors. My 1978 Opel Ascona B also had that. The passenger side mirror was bigger than the drivers side mirror.
Great vid, Jonny. The opening scene instantly reminded me of "...basically in Nottingham" when you mentioned where you were. Those that know, know....!
Even today, those are still a good looking cool car. Boxey maybe compared to modern cars, but stylish none the less. Got chance to drive one back around 2000, bringing it down from Teeside to the Midlands. A Porshe was up for a fight briefly, but he bottled it way before the car I was in was reaching it's peak.
These have always been a Hero car for me, so much cooler than the M cars as they're rarer and much more 'Sleeper'. especially the early ones like this is. Really good to hear that it's had a life and will continue to, even cleaned up nicely!
Had the pleasure of riding in one of these back when they were just released, my mate was a road test reporter for Motor magazine., he still writes now but for EVO.. Great car remember it clearly, in its black livery.
Please do a video on the Audi Quattro Coupe. I had one back in the day and then traded up to a S2 Coupe. Great cars and well worth reminiscing over. I also remember the B&K Thomas Mercedes dealership on Trent Bridge, Nottingham, it's all making me feel a little old.
My dad had an Audi 90 Quattro Sport 20v. Bought new on a H plate. Amazing car. There were not many about at the time. When my dad ordered it, the salesman said his would be the third in the country.
In 1991 O had to regularly visit a factory in Stroud and the MD had one of these. I never thought anything of it as it wss a 190e. A lot of cars in 1991 had a bodykit and 2.5 litres meant little. I realise now I should have got a ride.
Just something about the 190E 2.5-16, lovely car, merc made some great things back in the day, never understand why a Sierra with a cosworth badge is worth so much money, and an M3, but the Merc always seems forgotten about. Would love to see this fully done and running, but somehow think it may just get put away again for a while.
I'd personally like to congratulate Rob on his excellent choice of cars! Some absolute beauties there......apart from the RR Sport 😁. Wonderful automotive taste.
£32k in 1989 is close to £100k today... that was an expensive car back then!
It was very expensive. How many people buy cars of that value outright now?
tomleyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
Crazy really. My parents bought an XR2 brand new in ‘87, I think it was £7500… which was also a pretty big spend considering their house cost £16k 4yrs prior to that.
@@nolansmith571 yo 😅
£82,268.20 according to the bank of Englands inflation calculator
“Is he filming us?” What a great character!
Great film AGAIN, Jonny.
Feels like this could be the first of a trilogy with the M5 & B10.
Go on! Do it!
“ Mavis , you’ve got a 190 Cosworth “ Brilliant ❤️
And the reg plate had, in tiny writing, "Mave's car" (or something similar)!
Shyt old rubbish
I think she replied she didn’t give a stuff about cars, or similar! Good lass.
Johny. Your show is actually teaching me to keep hold of the special cars i have rather than sell. Its a duty for the future generations
what"special" car's you got?,a Seat Leon & Ford st definitely not classed as special? ?
@markcozzie dude. Tell me you IQ is zero without telling me your IQ is zero.
That’s got to be one of the greatest garages ever, the E39 B10 is a spectacular example and sat next to an M5 v10 too. Wow
Many years ago I worked on a farm, the grandson and his fiance had a 190e 2.5 - 16v Cosworth it was an awesome car, he also owned a VW Caddy Spor(he also had a 911 track car) his mum owned a red M5 (1986). Back then I wasn't old enough to drive, but I did get to be a passenger in the Cosworth, M5 and Caddy Sport on numerous occasions (memories have stayed). Thank you Johnny and the owners in this barn find video.
The 190 is such a handsome car, perfect proportions. Yet again a barn find with properly good people.
love your range rover comment i feel the same jonny
😶
I'll second that.
It will have a blown engine for sure
K-Jetronic tech here (Ex Saab). Your over thinking it a bit Johnny, they are not that complicated. The Fuel metering Pintle is probably stuck, and the injectors will all be Gummed up. So a fuel system service / mini Resto, with a new pump and it will be good to go.
Brilliant. Three "Back in the days" to chalk up, and I couldn't agree more about the Range Rover Sport comment! Thanks Jonny and team TLBS.
That VDO gauge is the lap timer, and the outside temperature. The screen is likely dead, but there's a repair kit available, which is an easy fix.
The outside temperature is shown in the instrument cluster. The gauge in the middle console is a laptimer and can show an avarage speed driving a mile / or a Km. Nothing advanced.
One of your best Jonny. You captured this one brilliantly 😎👍
Jonny, Watching old 5th Gears. You were and are the man.
Just to add, my late father purchased a 600SL in two tone green in 1993 from a Mercedes dealer in Bristol for £93K and as standard it didn't come with a stereo.. nothing has changed..
In 2002, when these had hit rock bottom, I was driving to Preston to swap my 88 alpina B10 for one of these, both were in the 3-4k range at the time. About 20 mins from the destination, my big end bearings decided to explode! That was a sad day for sure. Incidentally, I swapped the broken alpina for an Audi coupe like the one featured here, but alas not a 20v.
Couple of times I came close to buying one of these but the ones I looked at were multi-owner cars that had clearly been caned by one or more of the owners. As a former 2CV owner the gear change was easy enough for me to get my head around. I also came close to buying an Audi S2 quattro, but someone offered me an ST 185 Celica GT4 for a price I couldn't refuse. Still a great looking and sounding car.
Coupe quattro 20v is a rare thing, I had one a little while back but had to move it on due to a lack of space, I seriously regret letting it go. From Audi's golden era.
Rus
Please get around to going back and driving it when it’s on the road. It’s such a great sounding car and would be so interesting to see what it’s like.
Another lovely family in the video and as ever you know exactly how to draw the best out of them.
We'd love to revisit this one.
@@TheLateBrakeShowHope you do. They’re proper, hardworking people, not up themselves.
What a garage and a top collection of motors all in top condition aswell.
Really liked that fella, seemed like a proper geezer.
One of my old bosses had some lovely old SLs and what at the time I thought was a 190e with a body kit. It was years before I realised what it actually was. What a great car to own now. Surely rarer than a M3
Amazing car, in the early nineties my grans nextdoor neighbour was a car dealer and he also raced single seaters and he had a 190 cosworth and he took me out in it a few times and believe me he could drive and ever since I have loved the 190 cosworth, thank you dai twice (David Davies).
This car is amazing what a lot of people don’t know that they drive and handle so well🙏 it has real character when you push it,,,,really changes the whole experience amazing car
I ashamed to say I saw the title, thought it must be a Fowwurds and decided to watch it later.
Then heard it was a 190E on S&S and that brought it up the schedule!
Those injectors will be blocked solid and the fuel distributor will need rebuilding. I had the same on a DeLorean that sat for over 20 years, they also have the jetronic injection, great show as always Jonny
I remember Richard Hammond doing a piece on this car and a Corrado VR6 during his Top Gear days.
Great car! 🩶
You’ve got to love these Barn Find episodes - not just for the cars, but for the beautiful characters and their family who have a history with these machines ❤️
Great video Johnny. One thing though. The 2.5 in not a cossie. The 2.3’s were designed and made by cosworth but the
2.5’s were all built by Mercedes in house.
You're helping to encourage me to clean my own car this afternoon before it rains. Also, thanks for a great barn find!
Thankyou so much for showing this and thanks to the owners for letting us in on it not just the one car but an eclectic gaggle of top cars but the mercedes 190 gets my vote more please johnny😊
Who needs Top Gear when we have Jonny and The Late Brake Show team making gems.
Stunning 190 2.5. ❤️ When Mercedes had great build quaility!
Asymmetrical mirrors is a VW thing too. Polo 6N2 and Lupo - from memory.
VW T4 too
I recently found out that Audi are still doing it when I repaired a new shape A3. I was incorrectly supplied a LHD mirror cover for the right side of an RHD car and it was bigger, only slightly so not obvious to look at.
Got one of those, about 10 years since I drove mine been restoring it it is in the paint shop at the moment, video inspired me to get it finished, mine is 2.3. Door cards always shrink in the sun and the centre clock is usually a stop watch, exhaust should be a twin outlet pointing down
Was apprentice in Mercedes dealer in 93, I loved the SL500 and 600 and the Sec models. Was taken out in the back yard in a 2.5 and was mind boggled with the performance it provided as a 4 cylinder, the length of the gears was especially impressive when the foot is on the floor. dog leg tricky apparently, not unknown to launch one to find out it's in reverse🙄👀
Brother had one here in NZ back in the early 90s. I remember sitting in the back of it hurtling around a race circuit while he was being shown the approaches to the corners by the owner of the race car my brother had just purchased. Fun times.
I was a teen when these cars came out, a great video and glad to see it started relatively easily.
Another very enjoyable film great Sunday eve viewing . What an amazing thing to have tucked away in the garage owned since new and in amazing condition ( these were terrible rust buckets at the time and few survived rust free) love the fact it started after a bit and ran didn’t expect this one to be a runner. The owner is a great guy you should try him to come and help on some other ones he just stuck right in and gets on with it!
Always good to see a car which has led a life and has a story to tell.
Wow blown away with this episode . Just seeing same as my Audi 90 5CYL.. 20V AGAIN .
I decated mine and straight piped to back box .sounded amazing . If you go back clean the Audi .❤
80’s German saloon car barn find for the win! Great episode.
Amazing to see
Another great episode perfect Sunday fodder, Lovely car. Lots of lovely cars but lovely expression on the mum when she realised she was being feeling brilliant
Genuine BACK IN na DAY in the first three minutes. Sweet, Sweet Commentary
and a second mere moments later!
Straight in with a “back in the day” -epic
I worked with a guy who had one of these about 15 years ago, it still looked great but he wanted to restore it. They were just starting to get a rep for being a future classic at the time as opposed to just the knowing nod from people who knew, think Top Gear had featured one around the time as well.
This year's of touring racing were just the best, Johnny awesome barn find❤❤❤
Absolutely love your shows johnny...keep up the good work of giving all us oldies a reminder of the Cars we love.
Nice! I remember when my friends’ mum turned up in a brand new H reg 190D 2.5. They ran that car for years and I think it’s still parked up rotting away on their farm 😢
I had one me back in early 90s the build quality was exceptional
My dad had a new 190E in mid 80’s. Great car. My cousin and I managed to put in on its roof on a gravel road. Needed a new roof and other bit and pieces, but ran great after that
I've always loved the 190e it was the very first merc i fell in love with the cosworth 190e looks amazing
As a w201 owner i absolutely loved this episode!
Best barn find ever if I ever come in to some money Mercedes cosworth im coming for you 💯👏👏👏
What a great collection of cars. Tremendous
Dream car when I was a kid and made me a Mercdedes fan ever since! Thank you for another great episode!
I remember these cars growing up as a kid in the North West, never understood the whole Cosworth connection until now, keep up the Barn Finds Jonny
What a nice family. So good to see such real ordinary people. It's the reason I watch this channel and others like it. Although I'm neither a Merc or BMW fan( or Subaru for that matter) you absolutely do need to get back there. Those cars have a story x
I knew straight away @1:01 what that car was....... I've always wanted 190e Evo, such a nice looking car even now!!
Fuel pump relay is under scuttle by battery. It has a 20A fuse on it.
Thanks for another beauty Jonny! I listen as I workout on Sunday afternoons here in Alberta. I remember Senna winning in that. Hero car
Arguably the best barn find video yet? Mavis is awesome. Yes,a re-visit on this please!!!
I love the Merc cosy, it really takes me back.
maaaaate. THIS was my dreamcar for a good many years. I used to first drool over the Ford granada 2.8i Ghia for some years in the black with red stripes color and interior and then this monster turned up. We had a friends father buy one in black and he was an accountant not at ALL interested in cars so god knows how the merc dealer convinced him to buy this thing as it was insanely expensive. One day when my friend got the license to drive his father had already had it like 6 years but WOW the feeling when we drove off in it the first time. Black color with black paint/black leather interior. What a fantastic machine.
Always loved that shape. The 2.5 is one for the collection.
Great video once again! One of my old bosses had a series of 190’s back in the day and would have loved one of those. I’m sure you’ll be back there for more fun times! 😊
Mavis is a lovely human being!❤
being in california, i am envious of the sheer amount of autoerotia. and wet dream instilling petrol powered history access is bestowed .
Great collection of cars. Love the story about the void warranty. Brilliant that they really didn’t need to worry about that. The reliability came through for them by the sounds of it 😎
Brilliant a great history of this Merc 190 Cosworth 35 years with the same family from new 😎😎😎
190 was the last of the Traditional Well Built Benz, Wonderful cars no matter what Version they are ❤
Nielsen. That's a blast from the past. For me anyway. Brilliant products back in the day
I don't like many Mercs, but damn this is a hot looking car.
Smashing memories Jonny. Hi from Ireland.
That's a cool car, and it looks very well. About the side mirrors: it wasn't the only car that had different size mirrors. My 1978 Opel Ascona B also had that. The passenger side mirror was bigger than the drivers side mirror.
A friend of mine had one of these in Malta when I lived there. It was a genuinely cracking car.
Absolutely love these, I had a basic 2.0 190E many years ago & this was always an icon car to me ❤
Another great "barn find" edition Jonny, thanks. Top work :)
Great vid, Jonny. The opening scene instantly reminded me of "...basically in Nottingham" when you mentioned where you were. Those that know, know....!
OMG. This barn is holy ground for car enthusiasts...
Makes my Sunday watching your videos thanks very much
What a machine it was, with its dog leg gear box, and boy it went and griped 💯💪
Great episode. Took me a little while to work out that I recognised Rob from his motocross days! 5 Times winner of the Weston Super Mare Beach race!
YES!! Do a show on the Alpina B10 V8 ASAP !!!!
Keep on discovering these hidden gems mate. Great show👍
Gotta go bk for the BMW E39. Love anything with the Cosworth connection.
such a great back story and family to let you film these absolute gems well apart from the rover hehe thanks for sharing :)
Even today, those are still a good looking cool car. Boxey maybe compared to modern cars, but stylish none the less. Got chance to drive one back around 2000, bringing it down from Teeside to the Midlands. A Porshe was up for a fight briefly, but he bottled it way before the car I was in was reaching it's peak.
These have always been a Hero car for me, so much cooler than the M cars as they're rarer and much more 'Sleeper'. especially the early ones like this is. Really good to hear that it's had a life and will continue to, even cleaned up nicely!
They're hardly sleeper with the body kit and badging, they stood out a mile from a standard 190E.
Had the pleasure of riding in one of these back when they were just released, my mate was a road test reporter for Motor magazine., he still writes now but for EVO.. Great car remember it clearly, in its black livery.
You never forget your first... and for an 18 year old, this cars acceleration was truly memorable.
Please do a video on the Audi Quattro Coupe. I had one back in the day and then traded up to a S2 Coupe. Great cars and well worth reminiscing over. I also remember the B&K Thomas Mercedes dealership on Trent Bridge, Nottingham, it's all making me feel a little old.
What an unreal bunch of tasty German motors, thoroughly enjoyed that video!!!!!
Yes what a collection needs more filming for sure
My dad had an Audi 90 Quattro Sport 20v. Bought new on a H plate. Amazing car. There were not many about at the time. When my dad ordered it, the salesman said his would be the third in the country.
In 1991 O had to regularly visit a factory in Stroud and the MD had one of these. I never thought anything of it as it wss a 190e. A lot of cars in 1991 had a bodykit and 2.5 litres meant little. I realise now I should have got a ride.
Just something about the 190E 2.5-16, lovely car, merc made some great things back in the day, never understand why a Sierra with a cosworth badge is worth so much money, and an M3, but the Merc always seems forgotten about. Would love to see this fully done and running, but somehow think it may just get put away again for a while.
Never expected it to be that much when new, lovely car and car collection they have 👍.
I think we’re found a new double act. What a team 💪🔧👍
Yes get him back on!
yes! Wonderful team them two.
Great video Jonny. Looked like a fun day out. Lovely cars and family. You’ve got to pop back and drive the Alpine and Cosworth
I'd personally like to congratulate Rob on his excellent choice of cars! Some absolute beauties there......apart from the RR Sport 😁. Wonderful automotive taste.
Great BF episode. You definitely have to go back and pull out those other cars! Glad to see @tomleyRC is a fan!