This isn't the version "Dave didn't like". This is a demo. The tracks that got re-recorded are the Bear Creek sessions. No one has heard Goldsmith's drum takes of My Hero from those sessions.
Nate fucks up the bass line at 1:50 way worse than anything Will does in this recording (I didn't even hear any out and out mistakes on his part). Guess he's a shitty bass player who can't hack it and deserves to be replaced since apparently this specific recording of My Hero is the end all, be all of whether or not someone is cut out for the Foo Fighters, if the comments section is to be believed. 🙃 Oh, and Dave not even having the lyrics finished and fucking up the delivery at the start of the second verse? He's definitely out as vocalist, as well.
Drum (especially snare), lead guitar and vocal mistakes stand out far more than rhythmic guitar and especially bass ones. It's unfair, but it is as it is. I agree that what Dave and Gil did with William wasn't nice.
The perception of "hitting hard" on recordings is largely down to the recording and the mixing -- and particularly compression (which squashes down on the transients and boosts the tails, making the drums sound massive and loud). I'm a recording engineer. You can get the hardest hitting drummer on the planet and if you record with a shitty mic setup and don't bother mixing it much beyond setting levels so you can hear everything -- the kind of quick and dirty recording and mixing typically seen in demos -- it'll sound about like this. Go look at any live videos from 95 or 96. If anything, he hits TOO hard. Goldsmith hit so hard that he fucked his arms and shoulders up.
@@myyoutube62I guess it's not hitting hard in the sense of actual dbs and dynamic range in a relative sense I would argue that certain players have a certain touch, and an ear for what their instrument should ring out like. That's why you can hear drummers live and hear exactly how they played on the recording, and it still sounds like them. Maybe hardness isn't a real thing in terms of dbs. But perceived volume also has to do with the strength with which you hit your instrument and make it chime in a certain way. Maybe Grohl and Taylor understand how to put those dynamics into that song a little better.
At least live, William used to hit even harder than Grohl. No wonder he screwed his arms so fast whereas it took Dave some decades to do the same. He probably either was insecure for the recording with the FF or the drums were mixed badly since it's a demo.
William and Nate had to dumb it down. I love FF, but going from SDRE to this had to be painful musically.
Where did you get this demo?
Yeah I can tell why Dave didn’t like this version, doesn’t feel as complete as the album version
This isn't the version "Dave didn't like". This is a demo. The tracks that got re-recorded are the Bear Creek sessions. No one has heard Goldsmith's drum takes of My Hero from those sessions.
Taylor played this way live though 🤷🏻♂️
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Nate fucks up the bass line at 1:50 way worse than anything Will does in this recording (I didn't even hear any out and out mistakes on his part).
Guess he's a shitty bass player who can't hack it and deserves to be replaced since apparently this specific recording of My Hero is the end all, be all of whether or not someone is cut out for the Foo Fighters, if the comments section is to be believed. 🙃
Oh, and Dave not even having the lyrics finished and fucking up the delivery at the start of the second verse? He's definitely out as vocalist, as well.
Drum (especially snare), lead guitar and vocal mistakes stand out far more than rhythmic guitar and especially bass ones. It's unfair, but it is as it is. I agree that what Dave and Gil did with William wasn't nice.
He isn't as powerful as Taylor or Grohl. Doesn't hit the high hat as hard or with enough bite, nor the kick.
The perception of "hitting hard" on recordings is largely down to the recording and the mixing -- and particularly compression (which squashes down on the transients and boosts the tails, making the drums sound massive and loud).
I'm a recording engineer. You can get the hardest hitting drummer on the planet and if you record with a shitty mic setup and don't bother mixing it much beyond setting levels so you can hear everything -- the kind of quick and dirty recording and mixing typically seen in demos -- it'll sound about like this.
Go look at any live videos from 95 or 96. If anything, he hits TOO hard. Goldsmith hit so hard that he fucked his arms and shoulders up.
@@myyoutube62I guess it's not hitting hard in the sense of actual dbs and dynamic range in a relative sense
I would argue that certain players have a certain touch, and an ear for what their instrument should ring out like. That's why you can hear drummers live and hear exactly how they played on the recording, and it still sounds like them.
Maybe hardness isn't a real thing in terms of dbs. But perceived volume also has to do with the strength with which you hit your instrument and make it chime in a certain way.
Maybe Grohl and Taylor understand how to put those dynamics into that song a little better.
At least live, William used to hit even harder than Grohl. No wonder he screwed his arms so fast whereas it took Dave some decades to do the same.
He probably either was insecure for the recording with the FF or the drums were mixed badly since it's a demo.
You should watch how he plays live, like in early live performances of This Is A Call. He's an absolute beast.