The Wild Story on How Kurt Cobain hired his Punk Idol: Pat Smear
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Krist did not want to be a part and Dave did not to be a re made Nirvana.
"But most of them were junkies. He's still alive?? I met Pat smear. When I was living in Los Angeles. And instantly fell in love with him very rarely do I meet someone that I like so much right away."
-Kurt Cobain
"It was all thanks to me." -Courtney Love
"Last night was awesome".
-Your Mother
i knew some other guitarist, but most of them were Junkies"
What's that quote from? One of Kurt Cobain's journal entries in that book? I didn't know he lived in Los Angeles for a while.
I saw them with Pat twice and the sound was great.
Pat Smear is the reason I got into Hagstrom guitars. I hope to get his signature model at some point
same
Don’t. It’s not worth the money. There are a lot of better hagstrom’s for less cash
I'm a Fender guy. Kurt had the right idea. I do like the vintage look of the Hagstrom but Fenders can have a vintage look too and typically play and sound better.
Yeah those look sweet
The “Don’t Speak” video was after Cobain died.
Dont queef
@@Raw-guitar😂🤢
Yeah so that would’ve been him going back to what he was doing as opposed to being the illustration of what he had been doing.
RUclips timeline.
What was the point/purpose of him being in a No Doubt homoerotic dream sequence? I didn’t even know he was in The Nirvana Band. I got into all of Pat’s SST stuff being a huge fan of Celebrity Skin(hence Gary Jacoby - the other half of Deathfolk). It was my understanding that Dave was going to have a major role in songwriting, singing, and playing guitar for The Nirvana Band(due to the impression his solo Pocketwatch cassette demo made on the other band members), while Kurt would become the drummer and occasionally sing. I also heard C.Love wanted Kurt to leave The Nirvana Band to start a duo with Michael Stipe, something in the vein of Deathfolk. Gone too soon, it was such a great time. Almost a decade… I love you Kurt. Rest well in Nirvana, sweet Prince.
I got to meet Pat Smear in Seattle when i was young and of course i was obsessed with The Germs and Nirvana 😂❤ He was in Fred Meyers of all places.
Dix Denney would have been a perfect for Nirvana. One of the most underrated guitar players to come out of the LA punk scene
Hell yeah. The Weirdos were the best.
The Weirdos are one of the most overlook bands that came out of the LA Punk scene
If Pat Smear had not joined Nirvana I would have liked to have seen and heard Greg Ginn from Black Flag.
Talk about being in the right place at the right time. Imagine being in a band like that for almost 6 months and being able to live off that the rest of your life.
Sure, reputation wise, given that he went on to the Foo Fighters with Dave. But I don;t think Smear would get any Nirvana royalties would he? Although maybe he gets money from Unplugged and other shows still being replayed today.
Robert Roth from Truly, Steve Turner from Mudhony, Gregg Duuli from Afghan Wiggs and possibly Kurt Bloch from the Fastbacks. They would all be suitable replacements if Pat didn't join.
Dulli wouldn’t have worked. He’s a great front man himself, and his style is too different from anything Nirvana did.
@@tommyapocalypse6096 I agree with you 50% only because the guitar work in Nirvana wasn't the most challenging and could be easily immitated. I think anyone who could play well could be a candidate.
IMO, lots of guitarists could have played those parts. What Kurt was looking for was someone who brought him balance. "If you dont want to get disposed of, be indisposable"
He also wanted someone with punk/underground cred. Kurt wanted success but he didn't want the kind of success they got. He didn't want the shows to be full of average MTV viewers who came to see "Smells Like Teen Spirit", he wanted the shows to be filled with fans that understood them and connected with the music, not their video on MTV, the kind of fans that a band like the Germs had, just on a bigger level.
Smear might be the luckiest man in rock. Plucked from obscurity not once, not twice, but three times.
The only luckiest guy I can think of might be Ozzy Osbourne.
Germs weren't obscure lol they used to sell Germs tshirts in Rockabilia ffs
Please, tell that nearly unknown story about how Pat Smear visited Tom Grant just a bit after Kurt’s death to ask what he was trying to discover, and how Pat is one of the oldest and closest Courtney Love friends (in spite of playing in Foo Fighters, the band of someone who, allegedly, deeply dislikes her).
"Boof Rider " is now the name of my new band!
It really had to be Smear. No one else had the skills, temperament and personality to make it work. Without Pat they would likely have stayed a trio IMO
Pat is the goat, a legend in every band he’s been in.
Pat Smear will always be the reason why late members of great bands are always the coolest members (looking at you Jim O'Rourke), and Pat Smear's cigarette toss on Nirvana's MTV Live and Loud gig will always be the reason why I kept playing guitar after seeing it on MTV Brasil at age 13, around 2001.
He's mostly known for his time in the germs
He’s mostly known as a guitarist for the foo fighters.
If Pat didn't join Nirvana, Kurt said in the Come As You Are book he regretted not hiring Ben Shepherd (who later joined Soundgarden as bassist) when they could around 1990.
That's my "in" not my "Aunt" lol Would it kill youtube creators to proofread the AI generated stuff? That's ok - great video!
awesome !!! Thanks
There's a story that mike McCready from pearl jam reach Cobain and ask that he hears Cobain and vedder will make a record together. McCready says that he want to join them as a lead guitar .Then cobain said, " we will talk about that in other days" .
Kurt hated Pearl Jam
Kurt being polite.
Courtney looks so beautiful without any makeup on. She's a knockout with those girl-next-door-looks.
Big Jon from the Exploited he worked with Kurt as a tech I believe so I feel like if Pat had not joined perhaps Big John
Germs still ROCK in 2024!!
You can’t runaway from your destiny.
Now you're had 128K views, perhaps it's time for a feature length version? Perhaps you could mention that Kurt wanted a 4 piece another 100 times?
Pat was good fir tour but im glad he didnt add anything for You know your right. The song was done with just the 3. And i dont think he was a song writer just a cool dude who can rock
Pat was so Handsome
Nobody But Him and Only Him.
Pat Smear did the No Doubt video after Nirvana, and pre-Foos.
You make it seem as if it was prior to his being in Nirvana....
It's so disrespectful & wrong saying Dave not wanting Chris in Foo Fighter, Dave mentioned he asked Chris to be in FF too but apparently he had other things in mind.
Krist. Yes Krist wanted to do other things, which he has.
if pat didn't join i think mark arm as second guitarist
Cris Swartzlander punkrock legend
The wild story of how pat smear hired Nirvana XD
Pat was a great fit for both bands
too many of his band mates died. from 3 of his major bands
Any idea why dave felt the need for 2 extra rhythm guitars? - serious question.
I like pat smear alot really showed how powerful nirvana could be and having a punk legend didnt hurt either too bad they never could record a album
He was hired before they recorded in utero, he’s on the record
@@GucciJaxsen not true.
Agreed, I think they could have had a handful of good albulms with Pat.
@@GucciJaxsen No he was hired before they RELEASED In Utero, which happened 6 months after it was recorded because of "this is not Nevermind vol 2" record label drama.
There is so much wrong with this piece. So much. Most notably the omission that Kurt wanted Pat because of his work with legendary band The Germs, not because of Courtney Love's recommendation.
Pat Smear recorded with hole and Courtney before Nirvana. So why cant both be true
Pat do not needed any audition for 'legendary' Nirvana 'cause Nirvana members considered the Germs more legendary than anyone..
@@nic-ci_66-77Darby crash
I concur with that statement
Narrator can't even say Nirvana right
Never heard anyone say anything bad about Pat. It’s unanimous, he’s legit!
You weren't around on RUclips in 2008, then? I saw people complaining about Pat back then. Not all the time, but it was like they thought he was an insult to Kurt that he was there. But it's been a long time since I saw any of that.
I remember one particular complaint under the footage for the rehearsals to the Unplugged show, when Pat reminded Kurt about something or other. Never mind (no pun intended) that Pat's literally older than Kurt, *and* that Kurt wanted Pat in the band - none of these facts entered an irritated mind that decided to say its words and express its anger.
I never got bothered by Pat being in Nirvana, myself.
Lol Pat Smear actually was punk rock, Kurt Cobain was trying to BE Pat Smear. Its offensive to Pat to have to come and carry a show for yet another smack head
Pat talks like one of the rainbow brigade.
@@Euphoriasmotion2011 Creatives used to get pass on that. Now it's all just sus.
@@Euphoriasmotion2011
He is...
Twisted perv.
I like Pat , hes a very humble "rockstar"
Pat remembers hearing about what David Crosby said after watching the Beatles movie "A Hard Day's Night" with the other guys in the Byrds and then saying "that looks like a good job." Before that time, playing in a band wasn't much of a Life choice, but after the Beatles, there was an explosion of Rock Bands in the US(and the rest of the world).
Now young folks plan to be musicians, and have grown up planning to be stars, without many knowing what's involved. Pat is just glad to work; his time in the Germs was a different era and he knows he's lucky to be alive.
Pat Smear is an amazing guitar player. Kurt heard Pat's solo album from 1992 "So You Fell In Love with a Musician" and quickly offered him the job. Go check it out if any of you are interested.
I didn't even know he had a solo album. Will def check it out. Thx!
I will =)
That’s interesting, I had heard that Courtney had set it up because she was good friends with Pat. He was working at a record store in L.A. at the time and she got Kurt to make the call to ask him to join.
@@WoodenCrates1that's what I heard in the above video as well. They already knew of Pat and Kurt was talking about bringing back a 2nd guitarist. At @ that time, Courtney and Pat were, "Punk Rock Extras" in the same production. While on said set, Courtney got talking to Pat and Courtney said herself, (In the above video) it was one of those moments where Nirvana was looking and Pat could be their guy and she facilitated the start of Pat's involvement in Nirvana.
it is truly a remarkable piece of art, too bad he gave up doing solo stuff after joining big bands
Pat Smear is the coolest person on earth. Dave Grohl said so and it’s the truth.
I have no idea whether Courtney brought Pat to Nirvana, and I usually don't like people slagging Courtney, if only because I was at a pre-Kurt Hole show that was better than any Nirvana show I ever went to. However I was so offended by her comment that, "He was on welfare and I got him a job in Nirvana. Nice of me, wasn't it?" that I had to stop watching for a while. Who the says that? Especially about someone who is an artist himself.
I went to the Foo Fighters's concert in Riga, Latvia almost in the first line. Then I saw Pat Smears, the happiest person that I have seen on any stage in any concert. Such a vibe that he was transmitting I have seen in no one else. Since then I have been one of his biggest fans not only for his way of playing but for his way of being!
In 1996 I was doing security at Hollywood Palladium outside of the parking lot and Foo Fighters we're playing that night and a cab pulls up and Pat Smear comes out. What a moment I will never forget
Pat makes every band he plays in sound stronger, richer and better..
I liked his backing vocals on Heart Shaped Box live.
I figure Pat is happy. Gets to play guitar in cool bands. Makes good money. Bummer he lost 2 friends. Glad he is ok.
I grew up playing on the same circuit with Pat. We played with the Germs more than any other band at that time. So awesome to see how far he's come! ❤️🦠
what band were you in?
@@impv1sehe was in the Madeup Cowpokes.
He has the nicest guitar in Unplugged. Great video.
The Rumanian flag guitar
If it hadn't been Smear, I think Joey Santiago from Pixies would have made some killer leads in Nirvana. Or Darrell Herbert, who played lead on the Possum Kingdom album by toadies.
A at teenager when Smear joined I knew nothing about where he came from, or his history, but he fit on right away. He seemed to be a perfect fit for the band.
When Pat first joined Nirvana I saw it as a maturation of the band and I remember always enjoying his short time with them, mainly in the MTV Unplugged set and the 1993 New Year's Eve concert. Rock on.
Pat’s guitar riffs in the Germs were unique and outstanding. As in Nirvana and the Foo’s, I can often hardly recognize the sound of his guitar, tho…
Eddie Van Halen would have been a good fit. Just to see Kurt in pure misery.
Weird. No mention about Pat in the Raspberry Beret video.
Imagine the unplugged album without pat...best album EVER
If Pat smear had never joined Nirvana Buzz Osborne, Greg Hetson, Rikk Agnew, Kelley Deal, Kim Shattuck would have been great options.
I was in a nirvana tribute band. I played pat. Loved it. Got paid well, but broke my leg jumping off the stage
What do you think of Elvana?
Start with the Germ’s “Live at the Whiskey,” and you can actually listen to them all learn how to play. Darby’s lyrics were excellent from record #1 onward
I feel for Pat. Thank goodness my kids don't have the authority to ban rock music from my home... because they would, if they could.😪
I met Pat after a Foo Fighters show in 1995. He was super nice, and was wearing green sparkle nail polish. 😊
Thats Pat Smear for you. A Feminine Flamboyant Rizzler!
Me too, on that first tour. Pat and Dave. I met Pat again at one of the reformed Germs shows maybe 12 years ago. Both times he was friendly and nice.
Nothing can be as good as a Pap Smear
Hahahahaha
Grohl didn’t pick Pat over Krist… they play different instruments…
I know. That was odd.
The video doesn't mention it, but I think Dave said somewhere he wanted them both until he realized it would just be seen as Nirvana 2.
Awesome video dude. There is just one indiscretion I feel needs to be corrected. When Pat left the first time, it was because Dave had been dating Louise Post (well after his divorce from Jennifer Youngblood) of Veruca Salt fame (incidentally she provided background vocals on everlong). Anyhow Dave found himself getting very intimate with Winona Ryder & decided that he would break things off with Louise so he could pursue a relationship with Ryder. Except Dave thought that doing so over a long distance phone call would be sufficient. Pat was good friends with Louise & was none to impressed with Dave’s “horny teenage schoolboy antics” & sided with Post over the whole ordeal, also prompting Pat’s decision to leave the Foo Fighters.
Everything else is spot on the money dude 😉
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Bob Mould of Husker Du / Sugar would have been a great fit.
He never would have put up with it at that point in his life.
Kurt said he ran into him in LA (I think) he said then Kurt called him up later and asked if he wanted to be in the band.
Courtney had nothing to do with it.
Although yes Pat did think the call was a joke, per Pat.
You think so, huh?
What is the song that's playing in the first minutes of the video. It's either a version of something or it is something that I can't put my finger on, it reminds me of something! I don't know somebody please tell me what it is. It kind of reminds me of the song Gone by Pearl Jam
One of the funniest and coolest rock guys for sure, one heck of a player 🔥
Should have mentioned that Darby Crash also died by suicide
I really liked Nirvana as a three piece. When they became a four piece I felt like they lost some of that raw, visceral energy they had. Nothing against Smear.
Listen to the howl during drain you france tv 1994. Itll change your mind.
Kinda agree
They were usually awful live.
Dave Grohl recorded the whole of the first Foo Fighters album by himself, yeah he was sooo controlling lol
Pat is amazing.
I was so stoked when he joined Nirvana.
Same here. I loved The Germs and Nirvana. Live and loud was great. I must've watched it hundreds of times by now. Great musician.
I thought people were calling him Pap smear. Like it was his nickname 🤣
That's a 70's 80's punk thing to have a pun as a stage name
Pat Smear
Lee Ving
Rockets Redglare
Etc
I never thought of or considered Pat as being a good guitar player. He sticks to mainly barre chords and doesn't do leads. You don't have to do leads as a rhythm guitarist, but to know how to phrase helps, which is a big part of playing lead. I think due to the 25th anniversary of Nevermind's release with how the band kept gravitating towards female artist, perhaps Jane Wiedlin, Charlotte Caffey (both from the Go-Go's, which has a former Germs member in it), or Vicki Peterson from The Bangles.
Yeah, punk and grunge players don't do leads. That was the whole point, to make fun of the metalheads and proggers 🤣
@@neilpatrickhairlesstell that to Jerry Cantrell and Kim Thayil....
Pat is one of those musicians you always need around.
😂 I remember when Pat showed up, I was like, "who's this extra dude??🤨" 😂🤷♂️ 🤷🏽♂️
He was a punk rock legend carrying the guitar in the band of an MTV darling, that's who the extra guy was
@@neilpatrickhairless like thirty years later, thank you so much. Perfect timing.
If Smear didn't exist - Kurt would've asked King Buzzo - who'd have said no.
Imagine if pat could actually play....he might be a real star then.
I think Pat should had never left In the first place but it is what it is keep on rocking !!!
I never hear anyone else bring up his name. There's gotta be someone who finds it funny, also.
2:12 she's actually talking about a "Germs burn" basically The Germs became so notorious in the LA hardcore scene that Darby Crash and later the rest of the band decided to burn their cigarettes on the arms of everyone who was close to them. These people include the likes of Ron Reyes of Black Flag and Keith Morris of the Circle Jerks
When I first saw pat on unplugged I was like what the hell did they stop by the Home Depot and pick up a guitarist on the way
Guy Piccioto from Fugazi --top energy performer... Greg Sage from Wipers,,top stage presence but too leader...any from Buzzcocks, top rhythm punk guitars.. nah actually can't think in any better..PAt is the equivalent to Mike Watt, pure energy and passion and coolness. to carry a whole band. God bless them
At the age of 14 I bought the germs album titled GI in 1980, and my brother and I would hang out listening to it over and over. Bands like X, Dead Kennedys, Ramones , Blondie and so on were instrumental in the development of the grunge music genre. Pat actually was named after the Pap smear procedure
I'm confused after this video, if someone could clarify, Kurt always wanted a 4 piece band?
Yea kurt always wanted to have his band have 4 people. Prior to nevermind kurt and krist had a hard time as it was trying to find just a third person to join but when they found a suitable drummer for the time (Chad channing) they tried looking for a 4th member. They eventually settled on having Jason everman joining the band as a second guitarist. This arrangement obviously didn't last and Jason was out of the band almost as quickly as he had joined it and a little after Chad split ways with the band which then led to his replacement by Dave grohl.
For the longest time, we've heard that Kurt saw Pat working in a record store & asked him to join.
The next best option would have been Marc Bolan
Pat was in a Don’t speak video?? I saw the video too many times since it got out, wtf, how am I seeing Pat there for the first time? This feels like that Mandela voodoo sh*t..
It took me until this video to realize that pat was the other guitarist in the unplugged lol. I wondered who that was for years as a kid then it just hit me bahaha
He’s also in Raspberry Beret by Prince & the revolution
Eugene Kelly may have been an alternative to Pat - he was from the Vasalines - I saw him open for Nirvana in '93 with his band Eugenius.... and original song writer for "Molly's Lips"...
Lol..he shows the “Dont Speak” video with the year 1995 at the bottom, in reference to the various small gigs Pat Smear did BEFORE he met Kurt Cobain... Unless this is an alternate reality, you might wanna change that, considering Kurt died in march ‘94
Carlos Nunez looks exactly like Mike ness. Mind blown
I just thought the same thing
That because it is Mike ness.
It is Mike Ness that’s why
@@brodave17 no shit Sherlock
Haha .. I was scrolling hoping to find this tidbit
3:33 Holy Sheep! 🤣Can u imagine Smear playing John Frusciante's parts?
most nirvana history vidoes I watch have that deep chorus guitar song in the background, but I don't know what it's called.
You make it sound like he was a nobody before Nirvana. But he was an underground legend.
Not only the colour, but the shape as well.
You forgot the Germs reboot with Shane West. I got the chance to see them and they were awesome!!
Suzi Gardner from L7 could’ve been a good choice!
4:23 Yeah I heard Pat got the call for RHCP after Frusciante quit in 92 & supposedly had said "yeah, I'll join, as long as you stop playing funk"... 🤣
lol ,never heard that one . glad john got it together though
@@danielhall-wl4ql I know right? The music he made in the years immediately after getting sober is nearly all masterpiece level. Used to help me believe anything was possible... Now that I'm going through a similar process (cleaning up) I wake up everyday full of doubt & fear about my future
If Pat Smear had never joined Nirvana, it might’ve been cool to see Steve Albini play with them. Kurt was headed in a more abrasive/noise Rock direction at the end, and Steve is a master of that kind of guitar work. I think Smear was the guy, but that would also have been interesting
except Steve was not a big fan. He had heard of a lot of these kinds of bands. (that's right! most people who only listen to the radio would never hear)
Also, Steve Albini was in all the bands that the grunge bands copied in the 80's so yeah, he probably would have been bored as hell
Kurt Cobain said he wanted a 2nd guitarist just to make it easier on him, singing and playing the leads he did play...
Who could have replaced Pat in the beginning? Someone else as famous as Pat that is so humble there are no “Pat Smear Soloing” videos on RUclips except for when he played the original MTV riff as a joke. I can’t think of any off hand.
To be honest, I think if Pat didn't join, the band would've imploded earlier in their tour. Kurt's addiction would've gotten way more out of hand and he probably would've ended up like Layne Staley if things didn't go the way they already did.
People still have not figured out this channel makes all their videos with AI.