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2:15 Are we not gonna talk about that drum fill?!

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If you're going to be a drummer in a drummers band you have to be a great drummer. That's it

David couldnt handle being shown up in his new formation, hence why he treated Will poorly. Dave's ego got the best of him.-Taylor was just a "yes man" playing every song the way dave did adding nothing of his own style to the product. Dave must've said here play it exactly like this.... Will was not a "yes man" he plays what he feels the song needs or pertains to NOT a carbon copy of what Dave "wants" Will's playing on Diary & LP2 are far above anything Dave has played in ANY of the bands he has been affiliated with. apples to oranges.

Taylor’s better even tough He didn’t play on colour and the shape He’s still better

Personally I was a fan of the first Foo Fighters album. Had seen Nirvana a bunch of times - with both Chad and Dave on drums. Saw them live a handful times on the first tour cycle. Club and festival shows - 1995/1996. Hearing Monkeywrench for the first time I was immediately struck by how much I didn't like it at all.... !!! Everything about it to me - at the time - was NO! Time has not softened my view! Dreadful song - doesn't matter who's drumming on it. Never seen them live since.

He's rushing in the pre-chorus and chorus, a metronome would have solved this.

Sometimes you don't really know what someone's problem is, and they do work towards taking something from you, but we stick around. We stick around.

I don't think people fully understand how important structure is for a song. It's usually not enough to stick to the tempo and hit the snare on 2 and 4 - you need to place fills and beats consistently to tell the story right. William clearly drags on the first verse here. And more importantly - there's no fill or anything to signal the 'one in ten' part (0:35). And then again the build up to the chorus sounds accidental and not thought out (0:45). Dave's take is subtly different - notice how he gradually opens up the hi-hat to signal the 'one in ten' part. And the build-up to the chorus is so much clearer. Those may appear to be unimportant details but if you really compare the tracks (long and hard enough) you will see the difference they make. Now maybe Dave pointed these things to William, maybe he didn't. And it's a difficult conversation to have with your band's drummer - especially if you are such a great drummer yourself. This notion of structure - sometimes I think you either have it or not, it's more of an intuitive thing, not so much a skill to learn.

Just loved listening to Dave speak

Nate fucks up the bass line at 1:50 way worse than anything Will does in this recording (I didn't even hear any out and out mistakes on his part). Guess he's a shitty bass player who can't hack it and deserves to be replaced since apparently this specific recording of My Hero is the end all, be all of whether or not someone is cut out for the Foo Fighters, if the comments section is to be believed. 🙃 Oh, and Dave not even having the lyrics finished and fucking up the delivery at the start of the second verse? He's definitely out as vocalist, as well.

@jd0879 2 lata temu While there are slight differences this is def a competent drum track. The way they made it sound was Goldsmith couldn’t play. Dave probably just didn’t like his drum track but overall I don’t think it would’ve impacted the success of the album 87 Odpowiedz 10 odpowiedzi @lichtfilme 1 rok temu This demo is certainly about capturing the arrangement of the song and just to memorise it. Judging from the SDRE performance on MTV I think he is a more than capable drummer and maybe Dave himself couldn’t let it go, asking Gil Norton if he could take the blame, asking him to drum. 17 Odpowiedz @johnnyrokkit 1 rok temu William is a beast of a drummer, but I think it just comes down to feel. IMO Dave played these songs with a bit of a swing/swagger that is missing here, though obviously the drumming here is fantastic. 30 Odpowiedz @gernblanston3363 2 lata temu I'd like to hear the tracks William did for them fully mixed. Even though this track sounds completed, it still sounds rough and needs to be mixed and mastered. I have a feeling that there wouldn't be too much of a difference, other than not having the exact quality that Dave brings. In terms of how he tunes his kit and merely just how he plays it himself. I have a strong feeling that the album would have been just as successful with William's drum parts kept in. Oh well...C'est la vie. 67 Odpowiedz 2 odpowiedzi @DrummerEvan1 2 lata temu You know this is tough because they’re very close. I think Dave could have told him what he thought it should have sounded like and I’m sure William would have done it for the betterment of the song. I don’t think it should have gone down the way it did, but that’s in the past. Such a shame it did though because William really is a great drummer. 17 Odpowiedz @Danjoker. 1 rok temu Y'all need to realize that this is just a demo. Who knows what happened during the actual recording sessions? 4 Odpowiedz @squeguinquack2570 1 miesiąc temu Monkey Wrench by the Ramones Odpowiedz @erunix2392 1 rok temu Honestly I don't see how this is different to the released version, it would have been recorded by William and equally it would have been a hit. 6 Odpowiedz 2 odpowiedzi @kzgnode 10 miesięcy temu I have a feeling dave already had his eyes on taylor even the start of the production of this album. 6 Odpowiedz 2 odpowiedzi @viiofwands3076 1 rok temu The drums are pretty solid in my opinion, I think my only critiques would be to add an extra kick like what dave did in the official version during the intro/post chorus and keeping the beat straight in that outro right after the last chorus. William has grown alot as a drummer from what i've seen in his most recent performances with SDRE. I'd hire him 4 Odpowiedz @bigbowlowrong4694 2 lata temu (edytowany) Definitely lacking compared to Dave’s released version BUT we don’t know what William’s “final” takes sounded like. This sounds like a demo before they entered the studio. 17 Odpowiedz @leviathon18 2 lata temu drums sounds a bit more laid back but nothing really different at all 13 Odpowiedz @kennytesta9312 2 lata temu Sounds good SEX

Great video, a jewel to be honest. Here i've listened to some quite interesting things coming from Dave, especially on music. Didn't mind if it was in German, as i could understand what he was talking 😆

Ciekawe czy ktoś z Polski pojechał specjalnie na koncert Nirvany?

Monkey Wrench by the Ramones

Nirvana jest o wiele lepsza

Better than the album version. The tape version limits the loudness war approach.

Someone, please remaster this.

Dave Grohl and Taylor Hawkins just had something so rare in their drumming. This isn’t bad but when you are in the band I guess you see it from a different perspective.

The chorus is awesome, the rhythm is delivered at the same speed but Goldsmith has that hard hitting flare that has known for and you can definitely hear that. Taylor was awesome, and is one of the greatest drummers of his era, but so was/is Goldsmith, this performance was amazing yet Grohl slandered his play which is odd as Dave is usually straight forward and honest. Was probably just a personality clash

When it comes to recording especially there can be a couple % difference and the intensity AND precision are key differences WG and what actually made it. William isn’t a bad drummer or less than but for what this stuff called for Dave wasn’t a dick at all for having to cut them. Those saying they don’t hear the difference aren’t hearing that but William is a little less intense and not bringing that mental aspect that comes with recording solid drums of this style. It’s not easy becasue as a player you think you’re doing it and then upon playback you just suck. It takes a mental leap more so than a physical one to overcome.

He's not hitting as hard as Dave but the guy can play really well, dunno why Dave didn't like it, just Dave being Dave I guess

He isn't as powerful as Taylor or Grohl. Doesn't hit the high hat as hard or with enough bite, nor the kick.

The snare placement sounds very rigid, and that could actually be a producer decision. WGs playing in SDRE is very loose and sometimes slightly behind the beat, and that adds to the phenomenal feel of songs like 5/4... but yea i can see why dave would redo demos like these. the drums sound programmed

I always wanted to hear these. Maybe Dave wanted a heavier sound or just play them himself.

William and Nate had to dumb it down. I love FF, but going from SDRE to this had to be painful musically.

Honestly some parts of this are better than what the album version

Taylor played this way live though 🤷🏻‍♂️

Funny how this one song sounds more like the Foo Fighters than anything they put on an album the last 10 years.

I have a feeling dave already had his eyes on taylor even the start of the production of this album.

Yeah I can tell why Dave didn’t like this version, doesn’t feel as complete as the album version

Sounds better than the record

Undeniable proof how tight Dave Grohl is on drums and has a machine like tempo driving his playing : Just compare the length of this version to the album version, considering this demo version eclipses some of the first drum beats. 3min52 VS 3min53. Mind blowing musician.

Late Pocketwatch Demo version!

Honestly I don't see how this is different to the released version, it would have been recorded by William and equally it would have been a hit.

That was good though

Dave picked up a few ingredients from Kurt's playing.

Y'all need to realize that this is just a demo. Who knows what happened during the actual recording sessions?

Do you know the TV show this was from?

¿Demo? Con razón lo llamaron para verlo (a la banda), con razón se interesaron en el (el grupo), con razón a Grohl le tocó salir a buscar integrantes para su agrupación. El resto es historia. ¡Que grande es Dave Grohl! 💯🍷

William is a way more creative, groove, in the pocket drummer than Grohl. Dave being a drummer was terrible for Goldsmith, because I’m sure he could do nothing right. Thankfully it didn’t work out because Sunny day put out two absolutely incredible albums, both way better than any Foo album.

Ale perełka , dzięki ;)

Where did you get this demo?

This is not a C&G B-side. This was a song made for the "7-inches for Planned Parenthood" record.

Dzięki za wywiad

The drums are pretty solid in my opinion, I think my only critiques would be to add an extra kick like what dave did in the official version during the intro/post chorus and keeping the beat straight in that outro right after the last chorus. William has grown alot as a drummer from what i've seen in his most recent performances with SDRE. I'd hire him

This demo is certainly about capturing the arrangement of the song and just to memorise it. Judging from the SDRE performance on MTV I think he is a more than capable drummer and maybe Dave himself couldn’t let it go, asking Gil Norton if he could take the blame, asking him to drum.

i love it but the vocals are too low. other than that its perfect!

William is a beast of a drummer, but I think it just comes down to feel. IMO Dave played these songs with a bit of a swing/swagger that is missing here, though obviously the drumming here is fantastic.

First time listen... a demo? Or B side?