The mouse cursor dancing while the sister was playing her songs was really cute. Sorry I don't have any deeper contributions than that, just thought I'd mention it.
And the way it stopped for a moment when the dark lyrics appeared before continuing to dance 😆 I don't know how a mouse cursor can emote but Mr. Peacock managed to do it.
The ballad is a variant of the drowned sister/drowned swan/two sisters folk story. There are several of these but they follow the same beats, sister one has thing that sister two wants (sometimes there's a third sister but the story is the same with or without them), sister two drowns sister one, sister one's body floats along until someone sees the body and mistakes it for a swan(while OCCATIONALLY its a mermaid, its 90% of the time a swan), the body is dismembered and turned into an musical instrument usually something with strings like a harp or a fiddle, this person takes the sister instrument and plays it before her family where through music she manages to speak and accuse sister one of killing her. You asked, "a swan, what's that about?" and its a little hard to say. Its likely a combination of metaphors, swans are seen to represent love, beauty, and purity. But likewise we have dozens of stories involving people cursed to transform into birds, but particularly a large number involving maidens turned into swans. This choice likely feeds into that aforementioned symbolism of purity and beauty within the maiden, but this therefore leads a new metaphoric meaning to a swan, transformation. So to see the dead sister as a swan is likely a combination of these two ideas; alluding to the transformation the sister has undergone (being dead) and will later undergo (being turned into a musical instrument) and notions of her observable purity and beauty, perhaps even the tragedy of the death of such a pure and beautiful thing.
I've always seen the Swan line as just a poetic visual, a floating body in a white dress looking like a Swan But the version I listen to puts the line as "father fish in the dam, for there's either a maid or a milk white Swan has drowned in the dams of Minorie"
Swans are known to drown people who get too close to their eggs, which I believe is a common reason, though it's a rare one. Another reason for the Swan is likely that the Sister is beautiful, like how Swans are described as well.
I love how from eve's point of view its a happy fairytale, escaping from the witch and gaining a sister, but from hannah's point of view its a dark and horrible story more like a changeling or doppleganger, one day someone who looks like her shows up and she lets her stay and in return shes forced to live half a life and is routinely tortured (gets a tooth pulled without anaesthetic, hairbrush incident, punched because of something eve did etc) and ends up losing her parents, baby (not literally but she loses her ability to give birth to simons child while eve can), and husband to this doppleganger like no wonder she was violent sometimes and ended up snapping
@@Kenns-i think she kind of did actually! We don’t get a clear view of the watch but i think going off of what shes saying and it being stopped it implies it might be broken in some way. If this is true, it could be assumed that it broke during the scuffle that killed him, showing his time of death/attack. Under those very specific circumstances she ate lol
Your output is actually insane. Like you rejected quality vs quantity as a false dichotomy and opted for both. It's inspiring to me, who struggles to start things--let alone finish them. Thanks for doing what you do. You are appreciated.
It’s probably because, pound for pound, a lot of it seems wholely unedited. The bulk of it, the explanations and whiteboards, are presented pretty much ad libbed beyond a handful of talking points per section. The longest lulls in uploads are easy to chalk up as information density (see: the four part Inscryption series). This isn’t me dissing the craftsmanship of course, it’s just an explanation of why this man is inexplicably underrated
@@redwiltshire1816 I'd think during the script writing phase, he keeps the more spontaneous, floppy thoughts in since this is a less formal type of presentation. Allows more screentime and personality to come through.
@@sneakrrr probably it keeps it more real and allows people to look at a story from multiple perspectives compared to most RUclipsrs who tend to just stick only to the fact and nothing else
So, the song they sing is an old folktale, and I'm not sure if she sings it in full in game. But in the song, the fiddler plays the fiddle made of the dead sister at if I recall correctly, the wedding feast, and it wails out in her voice and tells the truth of her murder in front of everyone. So this could possibly indicate that one of the sisters is deliberately trying to out the other as a murderer.
I don't know if that's true. I've seen a few playthroughs and there are definitely different conclusions that you can reach based on which evidence you prioritise. The second experience will definitely be different, and it might be something where it's worth playing it and then sitting with someone else while they play it. I've had that experience with choice-based narratives before, and it works better than trying to consciously make different choices yourself.
I just replayed before watching this vid. It's been several years, and while I definitely remembered the twin twist, I'd forgotten 98% of the other smaller twists and turns. Plus, I didn't try too hard to pick out the different twins in my first playthrough, so that made for a nice second playthrough challenge.
When he said "No reason to be so coy now" after the Bruise 4 clip, I paused the video, thought for about 10 seconds, then went with "I got nothing, hit me", and absolutely did hit me
I've watched a "chronological" order video of Her Story several times over the years. I'm obsessed with the actress in this game and it's just too good. Thanks for covering this fantastic story!
I finally got the name after shouting out " aw sweet a new Flawed Peacook video came out" and my friend in the other room screamed "what the hell did you just say?"
Haven’t actually watched this yet, but I remember playing this game, following key words to certain clips, and then suddenly getting an achievement that was like “You did it! You solved it!” and I just sat there like “… I did?!” So I’m looking forward to this deep dive.
It lets you *choose* whether you're done at one point--well before you've really seen everything. There is an achievement that pops if you say yes, but that's because the real answer is clearly no. If a game achievement ever pops for you "finishing" the game and it seems way too early for the game to be done, it's probably a fake out and worth Googling to check.
OH MY GOD! I meant to listen to this while I was working today and it completely slipped my mind because I listened to the Futurama theme on loop, like, a hundred times instead... So, uh, I guess I'm watching it 10 hours later instead lmao!
I would give a lot for you breaking down "the infectious madness of Dr. Dekker" Its a similar game to this, you interrogate psychiatric patients after something happened to the titular Dr. Dekker (I think) Its such an interesting game I watched a casual playthrough years ago but the story is so hard to grasp
Omg, another person who's played that game! I also thought it'd be perfect for one of these videos, together with The Shapeshifting Detective (since those two are connected iirc?)
@@duttfisch ah true I forgott about the shapeshifting Detective They are also a bit silly and connected to cult/supernatural stuff, so I feel like he could have a lot of fun getting floppy with it :D
Literally!!!! Its like the perfect blend of letting me understand subtext and symbolism that doesn't register with me AND listening to a friend infodump about something they enjoyed and I really love that!!
@@gurm1155 Absolutely!!!! I like that he makes everything obvious, like lays it out in the most understandable dissected fashion!!! And Im a sucker for long videos
@@quokkappy504not only does he dissect it, he also allows things to play and lets you draw your own conclusions, or even leads you towards the right answer without spoiling the next clip which is an incredible skill. My mans dont get enough respect right now, but he's gonna show em 😤
Yes! Couldn't have said it better myself. I can get weirdly obsessed with learning abstractly about all those things in great detail, subtext, motivations, symbolisms. And this is just very systematic and thorough, while also presenting it as a genuine experience of the medium, instead of just looking at it in summary.
I feel like a big drawback to the twin theory is why Hannah and Eve would switch off being interviewed at all. It would make more sense and be far more consistent if only one twin spoke with the police. Switching off would just be asking to get caught.
Oh, I have an answer to the twin theory! Correct me if I’m wrong, but in one of the clips, one of the two sisters asks about getting her blood drawn for records. In another clip, Eve mentions having an STD. It’s possible that they realized partway through that the medical records that suggest an STD might raise some eyebrows if Hannah were to ever get a blood test.
I think the reason may be the lie detector test. Eve fails the first question when she said her name was Hannah so that would probably make the police question her identity
@@AutoRoboto05 No I mean why would Hannah bring up drawing blood in the first place if it has the potential to compromise their cosplay as one person? From what we can gather, the police asked to take her fingerprints, and she volunteers the blood as additional proof of identity. You wouldn't volunteer to take the blood test if it could blow your cover.
I love you at 1:18:40 dancing along to the song, stopping for a second when they talk about making a bow out of her hair, and then just continuing to jam
What I think can explain the fingerprints in the bedroom is that Simon actually might have cheated with another person and it flew under Eve's and Hannah's radar (which often happens with cheating)
especially if it was just a one time or short-term thing, obviously they would have no reason to suspect anything, but when police comes and does full forensic search, the fingerprints would be found.
Believe she was put in the attic, or at least somewhere with a window where she could wave at Hannah. But that note on the basement as somewhere you put things you dont need could have subliminally been Eve throwing some shade at Simon considering it's where his body goes, and she likely as the cool one decided where to hide it?
@@lealeapants9011 Eve could look out the window to see their neighbors/see Hannah. And Hannah saw could see her back. Since the parents never went to the attic, i took it as Eve staying at the attic at Florence and you can only see that from the other side. I filled this in cause otherwise the plot hole would be that the parents would have to have seen Eve at least a couple of times during those years.
I do think there is something to the system theory -- not so much that it's a definitive "answer" to Hannah and Eve's nature, but the ambiguity of the situation feels very intentional. I think one of my favourite lines was Eve saying, "When Hannah was born, I was born at the same time"; it's technically true to say of your twin, but *sounds* almost mystical, like Eve was a spirit invoked at the moment Hannah was born.
Telling my roommate there was a new Flawed Peacock video, realizing it was 4 hours long and then realizing it's going to be another series was the absolute best build up for me. Got a lot of crocheting done in those 4 hours too
Kinda a floppy idea but I've seen people with DID often describe their internal world as a physical space or like an "extra room in a house". Leaning into the alters theory could the attic not have been real and that's why the police 'didn't search it' and the parents/Simon seemingly never went in there? And the idea of them going to play there is equivalent to entering their internal world (hence the associations with fairy/fantasy stories and the doll house that seemingly didn't fit)? Oor there was a real attic but the 'Attic' Eve/Hannah talk about isn't the real attic.
@@frogbirds brilliant idea heres my two cent as a system What you are describing is generally described as « headspace » a place where you can interact with other alters or ideas in your head. Headspace usually is made from things of the everyday life of the system, a place where someone feels safe might exist in headspace, or somewhere you go usually might be in headspace. It really depends from system to system
@@alt-q1y i have read the dsm-5 the disorder is dissocialitve and exist on a spectrum of severity of symptom. Yes the paper book text DID says there is no memory sharing betweens alters but thats false for some system. Especially when there is therapy or recovery process. Did is also not the only disorder with the existence of distinct « other person » there is the OSSD (other specified Dissociative Disorder) even C-Ptsd I understand your intention was to re actualize the fact that did is a disorder with debilitating symptoms, but it would be untrue to say that there is no headspace when some people with did do have a headspace. Varies from system to system the DSM-5 is a good baseline but it shouldn’t exclude other systems that experience life differently
Also a system here, reading it as a headspace is definitely an interesting take! There's a place in ours that just seems like a child's bedroom and if we didn't know better could totally be mistaken for an irl room.
I played this with my mother years ago. I had a health scare today and ended up at the hospital. This video made the wait a lot easier. Thank you for your impeccable timing.
So I'll jut say for my two cents, i don't think the system theory makes much sense given things like the tattoo and the bruise, as well as other things like Simon genuinely believing there to be two of them because of said tattoo. Like, if there was only one Hannah, why would he specifically take note of the tattoo at the bar? Why would she be hiding it at home with him but not hiding it at the bar? I guess you could make it work, but I don't think so personally. However, I do think there's a more compelling "There are no twins" reading of the work, and that is the reading that Hannah invented Eve entirely specifically to throw off the police. In this situation, things that don't add up in other peoples' behaviors/Hannah's appearance (like Simon taking note of the tattoo, the tattoo being there for one interview but not for others, the bruise that appears and then disappears) can all be chalked up to deliberate fabrication. Hannah decides when she's going to act like Eve and when she's not, she reinforces this fabrication by giving herself a black eye and then covering it up with makeup, she covers her tattoo up with makeup on some interviews but not others, all to construct an elaborate alibi and cast just enough doubt on herself that the police can't justify charging her with murder. One piece of evidence for this theory: During the lie detector scene, she deliberately sighs heavily after saying her own name, thus messing with her breathing and heart rate. Given how lie detectors work, this would throw the results off, and make her name look like a lie. If she was scheming, this then gives more credence to this idea that she's not really the perpetrator, aka Hannah, but instead this mostly innocent twin sister, Eve. So taking all this into account, it's possible that Hannah is just a master manipulator (i'd argue that the interviews show that both twins are extremely adept at manipulation, if nothing else) and could be messing with the police to get away with murder and essentially restart her life as a new person, as Eve, and let Hannah "disappear."
@@GigasGMX id say the way she said "so it works" (paraphrasing) so confidently might be an indicator that she knows how to manipulate a lie-detector test! she knows theyre bogus so she uses it to her advantage by making it "confirm" she lies about her name and nothing else
@@GigasGMX They're meant to study the person and analyse how they react to questions, not necessarily whether or not they're straight up lying (hence them not being used in court as concrete evidence). They offer us insights into the person's mind and mannerisms, but we cannot definitively know if they're lying or just good at maintaining calmness.
I came searching for someone discussing this theory, that Hannah invented Eve in order to get away with murdering Simon. Is it not reasonable doubt to some extent? If 'they had never been caught' regarding Eve having to get her own identity, then Hannah can, at the very least, forever claim innocence. 'I am Eve, my twin committed the murder, this is a case of mistaken identity'
I’m actually so glad you legitimately took the time to examine the “one body two minds” possibility because so many see it as a theory you only make if you “misunderstand the game” but there is legitimately SO much that leads to that as a theory.
@@honestkyn718I do get why people do it but a lot of the community around the game(at least in the RUclips comments) dismiss it because of the(I’ll be fair VERY compelling) tattoo and don’t want to look deep into it.
The most surreal part of all this is that my initial thought was "oh that old game." I remember when Her Story came out and honestly it's not that old but man do I now feel old
Something I really want to point out is that the player character, Eve's(?) daughter, is named Sarah. Sarah is the name that Hannah wanted for her and Simon's daughter. Hannah is so greatly repulsed by Eve/having a twin/sharing a life with someone that she greatly opposed having Ava as a daughter, because it's symmetrical. I find that interesting because Eve LOVES the idea of being twins. It made her special, like a princess in a story. So I find it interesting that Eve named her daughter Sarah in the end. It's such a regular, un-princess-like, ordinary name.
I think it leans into Eve thinking of her & Hannah as almost the same person. Hannah & Simon's baby was meant to be Sarah, and now Eve can "complete" the pregnancy with her own Sarah.
Funny thing, I was actually born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck! I really like how they used it in the story, since most people, knowing how humans choke, would probably assume the baby *would* die. But babies don't start breathing through their lungs until the umbilical cord is cut, since they're getting basically everything that allows them to grow and survive through the cord, including oxygen! So, while they had to be very gentle because they're still dealing with a literally newborn baby, all they had to do for me was get me out, unwrap the cord, and then cut it. Also, I don't know if this happens to all babies who have that happen, but I didn't cry at all after I was born. (Which freaked my mom out to hell and back.) So, if that is a side affect of the cord being wrapped around the neck, Florence *could* probably convince the parents that Eve was dead as long as they didn't get a good look at her. (Since she'd still be looking around and moving.) It's really interesting to me how I'm able to connect to this story, in a weird way!
I know you said it can seem patronising but tbh I really like your style of explaining bc 1. I'm an idiot and it gives me time to try to put it together before it's all spelled out and 2. I find the way you approach it allows me to consider it in ways I wouldn't necessarily consider it, letting me get a better appreciation of the story. I'm autistic and really bad at understanding subtext and symbolism so I really like this style, because with your trickle information idea it makes me feel smart haha!!! Edit: oh shit this is the guy who made Immortality??? Lmao I get it now!
With regards to the uh. Hairbrush incident. Not everyone actually has a hymen, and whether or not it's torn during sex has nothing to do with virginity. Just means you need to be gentler and use more lubricant.
In normal female development, all girls have hymens. It's just a thin layer of tissue that protects the vaginal canal. Many girls suffer hymen injuries in sports and other activities like horseback riding. Many women even have hymenal remnants, or strands of the broken hymen that still remain and can be seen. This commonly happens shortly before and after childbirth, where the remnants can become swollen due to pregnancy hormones. The hymen is a completely normal part of the female anatomy. Whether it is in tact or not has no bearing on an individual's value. We are all worthy in God's eyes 🙏❤️
@@henotic.essence The hymen doesn't cover the vaginal opening, the hymen surrounds the vaginal opening by a few millimetres, and is either circular or crescent in shape. If the hymen is covering the vaginal opening either fully or partially (imperforate covers fully, and microperforate, cribriform and septate cover partially), surgical intervention is required to remove it. Menstrual clots can't pass through microperforate and cribriform hymens, and imperforate hymens don't allow menstrual fluid or tissue to pass at all. This can lead to toxic shock or a major infection of the vaginal canal. Septate hymens are less problematic, but should be removed because they would make potential penetration very uncomfortable. Normal hymens do often tear due to injury during sports, or childbirth. In the case of childbirth, it's usually repaired with stitches or surgical glue after birth. The hymen will recede in the case the it breaks and isn't repaired, which leads to the hymenal remnants that you're talking about. Hymenal remnants often occur *after* childbirth, when the hymen is pushed out of its receded position. Pregnancy hormones don't lead to the swelling of hymenal remnants, it's all the pushing and stretching of the vaginal area that leads to swelling of hymenal remnants. (I don't mean for this comment to be combative or argumentative, just informational. There's a lot of myth and misinformation surrounding discussion of hymens. I did a lot of fact checking while writing this comment.)🙂
I really appreciate the seriousness you brought to the discussion of a system interpretation for E&H. The level of care means a lot, especially when most theorizing around characters with DID is very sensationalist and based in stereotypes. Although I never read DID into the characters when I first played Her Story, hearing your pet theory was compelling and a very fun alternate way to interpret it. As always it was a joy to listen to your thoughtful analysis.
The sisters are trying to imply that Simon's watch broke during his murder. The watch stopped sometime when Simon died, and Hannah was in Glasglow, so thus it can't be her. Eve probably watches/reads murder mysteries, since some will have the victim's watch break and that will be evidence of when the murder happened.
I've always taken Eve saying "You can't arrest someone who doesn't exist" to mean that the two have swapped one more time. Eve is becoming Hannah for the sake of protecting her sister, and Hannah is becoming someone who does not have a record of her own life.
As someone who is also many people, i really enjoyed floppys descriptions and analysis of the system theory. I can empathize with the "not knowing what happened last week", getting identities mixed up, and another commentor mentioned the attic possibly being the innerworld since none of the real people seemed to know about it. I know they technically are twins but having multiple theories on a story is really fun, and the fact floppy said he doesnt like saying "this is exactly what this means" and having dialogue and ideas
audibly gasped. i was just telling my friend about how you've become my favourite creator on the internet. your voice is really comforting, im always interested in what you have to say. im so happy to see you upload.
As someone with DID, its REALLY refreshing to hear someone talk about DID with respectful (and accurate!) language instead of basically boiling it down to "murder alter disorder". I hate that most DID representation in media is about murderers, but as a mystery writer myself I feel like it could be used for some really interesting stories (if done well and respectfully). Some of your theories line up surprisingly well with what can happen in real systems, it really feels like you tried to do your research. On host transference: That can happen, but it's not necessarily scary! Often times when a host transference happens, it's because the current host is just not equipped to deal with the current situation (DID is mostly a disorder formed to cope with trauma and stressful situations- if a certain alter cannot handle the situation, a different one switches in to apply a different response, one that might make the system feel safer. That doesn't necessarily mean it WILL make the situation safer, but traumatized brains struggle to realise what is safe and what is not, and oftentimes what is familiar feels safer- even if it's actually harmful). I've had about three or four host transferences through my whole life- yes, the first time I experienced it it was pretty scary, but when you have the right supports in place and a safe enough environment, especially one where you can safely express your plurality (plural/plurality or multiple/multiplicity being another word for being a system), it can be a lot less stressful and even helpful. Also, given enough time and the right kinds of recovery, buried (often referred to as dormant) alters can reemerge later in life. (Our own host from when we were a teenager disappeared after we were out of high school, but a little over five years later we're in a place where they can come back. For some alters it can be like they were still aware "in the background" the whole time, other times it's almost like waking up from a coma and having to be reintroduced to the world. One of our alters went dormant in 2019 and came back in 2023- he almost didn't believe everyone else when they told him The Plague happened while he was gone. We all found it really fucking funny, including him) Also, there is a possible way that the twins theory and system theory could BOTH be true, in a way. I've heard some stories- though I've never met any systems like this personally- of children who were meant to be twins, but one twin died during pregnancy or infancy, and somewhere down the line the surviving twin forms an alter of their deceased sibling (often called an "introject", when an alter is based on a preexisting person- be it in real life, living or dead, or even fictional). Some alters even come with false memories or pseudomemories (sometimes referred to as "exomemories") that form a rationality as to why they exist or how they formed in the system in the first place. Sometimes, as well, DID can be covert, meaning the person with the condition literally doesn't find out they have it until years and years later (I was actively switching and experiencing symptoms of DID almost four years before anyone in my life ever figured it out). That could mean the pseudomemories take precedent over the real memories in the brain, and the person fully has no idea they're literally living two lives. In a child, those kinds of things can be even harder to parse from reality. It could be that they've formed some pseudomemories in their childhood, and because they likely believed these stories were true as a child, they have very little reason to believe they didn't actually experience those things, unless presented with actual evidence. In terms of the tattoo basically disproving the system theory: it could be possible that it is some form of temporary tattoo, although that is unlikely. Maybe Eve, every time she switches in, applies the false tattoo, almost to show that it's her in front, and then by the time Hannah comes back, it's been washed off or faded away. The tattoo doesn't look super vivid, possibly faded a bit from the years- although that could be a convenient lie, saying the tattoo is old when really it's just fading from having been on all day. Their drinks being different also tracks. We have one alter who keeps eating pepperoni pizza even though the rest of us fucking hate pepperoni EDIT: On fusion of the two identities- fusion is also a thing that can definitely happen in systems! There are technically two things you could be describing here- in a temporary fusion of identity, that's often referred to as "blurring" or "blending", where it's not entirely clear which alter is fronting or perhaps they both are at once, called cofronting. This can happen for various reasons, but usually reverses itself after a relatively short period of time. On the other hand what's called "Final Fusion" can be the end goal stated for most DID recovery, where all the different alters form back into a single identity. Keep in mind, this is not a one size fits all solution- some systems work better with what's called "Functional Multiplicity", or basically continuing to function as multiple while working on fixing the specific distress points of the disorder, like memory issues and uncontrollable switching. My system is currently working towards the latter, and with many years of work, we have lessened our trauma responses and function kind of like a group of friends all trying to keep one very large and temperamental Sim alive. Sometimes, systems can also have alters that intend to harm other alters in the system, called persecutors. Persecutors are not inherently dangerous- they often form as some sort of defence mechanism, like a forced fight instead of flight response. This can also be a form of self hate ("The kind of hate you can only feel towards yourself," was it?) maybe hating the other alter for being "weak" or "a coward" or for being percieved as not doing enough to protect or help the system as a whole. That one scene in Lord of the Rings where Gollum is having a conversation with Smeagol, calling him weak and mocking him for crying and then deciding to do something horrible because that feels safer and easier than believing that the Hobbits would truly be kind to him? That's a pretty decent example. Sometimes one alter can actually FORCE another alter into dormancy- persecutors can sometimes do this for any of the reasons described above. Smeagol even manages this temporarily in Lord of the Rings, before he's thrown back into abuse and his defence mechanism is forced to reemerge.
Thank you for this. Had a friend with DID back in high school and was flopping back and forth based on the "outsider" perspective on whether or not the system angle was overthinking it or not.
Yes! As another DID system, it's so refreshing to see content with us, especially horror with us, where the catch isnt how scary and murderous we must all secretly be
thank you so much for taking your time and energy to write this comment! i'm not a system myself and though i know a bit from some acquaintances, this was very informative. i also thought of a temporary tattoo but it seems like a bit of an unusual design so unless Eve gets a different one every time, it would be hard to find the same one. still a possibility though!
thank you so much for this comment! I also commented on the way he talked about DID but never would I have written something so well explained and easy to understand like ur comment. I don't have DID but fall in the dissociative spectrum/cptsd and I love to keep myself informed
I agree that the best way to describe Her Story is as an interactive investigation. I loved the feeling of slowly unraveling all the red strings and laying it all out on the (metaphorical!) clue board.
Mind if I play some video games while you crochet? We can have a small chat. Maybe some tea? I could bake cookies. Listen to Peacock while we relax and chill...?
OH MY GOD! This is the game that I used to get my sister into video games and now we play together all the time! I can’t wait to watch this and your converge of this series! Immortality was my personal favourite of the three cause it speaks to me but all three are just works of art.
As soon as I saw the lyrics of the Wind and Rain song, I immediately thought of The Bonny Swans by Lorena McKinnett. It's awesome to see that song get some referenced recognition. Thanks for the vid as usual Mr Floppy👏👏👏
At 46:47 i couldn’t help bust out with a “Two in, one! Two, in one!” It really is all connected! Edit: I’m adding a thought that occurred to me at the knock code part don’t hit read more if you care about potential spoilers. What if she isn’t slipping up? What if this is all intentional? Twins living one life or an individual with a split personality is very compelling and interesting as a story, but what if that’s the point? Present two possibilities one outlandish(Twins living a single life) and the other deeply tragic(split personality at conflict with themselves) to distract away from a more simple truth? That she knows she is being recorded, that she knew she would be found out, so is now putting on a performance to get acquitted on the grounds of being mentally unwell? After all the only story we get told, the only angle and perspective we are given, is Her Story… Like I said only at the knock code part so far, so might be brought up as a possibility later on in the video, but I wanted to added it before I forgot too.
@jeebusthegreat8819 that's what I kept thinking, temp tattoos have been a thing for a while, maybe not as real looking as nowadays, but that could be a temp tat, and makeup on the bruise, bam, same person
@@dementia8745 it helps that the camera is complete potato quality too, it's difficult to see the tattoo in any detail and determine if its real or temp.
It would explain why everything she says has that slightly acted, rehearsed tone. I assumed it was just the game hiring an actress who wasn't perfect at sounding natural, but what if it was done intentionally to hint that EVERYTHING was an act?
The attic is probably because of their obsession with the Rapunzel story since she's secretly kept at the top of a tall tower. Rapunzel gave birth to twins in the original story. Hannah is the witch in Eve's story: she kept Rapunzel hidden in the tower/attic. The witch finding out that Rapunzel was pregnant was how she knew out about the prince, the catalyst for their final conflict. The prince was also tricked into climbing up to a waiting witch with cut/false blonde hair (blonde wig motif) And! The silver stuck in Simon is reminiscent of the thorn stuck in the Prince's eye which had caused his blindness when he fell into a thorny bush after being pushed by the witch. The beginnings of the Rapunzel story echo through their infertility/miscarriage. In the story, the witch was also Rapunzel's parents' neighbor. ...Unrelated but when the chat said to go across the street I thought it was long lost Hannah trying to get in touch with her niece lol
I have so many thoughts so I'm gonna make this comment as I watch. Honestly the whole "hairbrush incident" as I'll call it is even more horrifying when you understand that hymen breaking can happen from so much more than sex, and that often it SHOULDN'T break during sex at all. Also a miscarriage so late and so close to the parents' death also raised a few red flags. It is also possible that the periods stopped due to a phantom pregnancy (i think that's what it's called) where the body will act as if it is pregnant even though it isnt. There's also lots of other reasons but that's the one that stuck to my brain. I'm not at the very end yet, still about an hour left as I get to writing this part of my ramblings, but I do believe if twin theory is in play that Eve forced the twinship and that Hannah never wanted it, finally got fed up, and Eve spiraled when Hannah got pregnant (likely offing their parents maybe as revenge for not getting to grow up normally, and potentially had something to do with Hannah's miscarriage especially since it was so complicated that it left Hannah infertile). Hannah might have killed Simon in a blind fit of rage or self defense during the altercation, or it's possible Eve did it and once more forced Hannah back into their twin act. I could believe Eve also finally killing Hannah at the end of it all. It should also be pointed out how inaccurate lie detector tests are. I know this is fiction but I doubt with how thorough the details have been in this game I feel it's an important detail to keep in mind. Eve could fake her way through to get the response she wanted. I also feel like Eve projects a lot of her feelings onto Hannah and just doesn't see her as a real person which was why she held onto her so hard even when she supposedly tried to live her own life. She never wanted her own life, she wanted HANNAH's life, even if she might not have been fully aware of it. She said it herself, she thought they HAD to merge back together for EVE to be whole. Hannah was always a tool for Eve to have her fairytale life. At least depending on which stories Eve told were true.
Peacock joined forces with MattPat and hbomberguy to write a series of video essays exploring the deep lore of video games, entitled The Breaderalist Papers. The plan was to write a total of 25 essays; the work divided evenly among the three men. In the end, they wrote 85 essays in the span of six months. MattPat quit after writing five. hbomberguy wrote 29. FLAWPEACOCK WROTE... THE OTHER 51!!
Just to make it clear in case anyone is curious, the hymen actually doesn’t always break during sex. It can also break do to rigorous exercise, self pleasure, etc. It can also stay intact. It is not a measure of virginity.
many many thanks for muting the morning sickness part! I have a very bad phobia of vomit so your choice to not show was a lifesaver for me, thank you so much
So I literally just spent the last week binge watching Flawed Peacock to get caught up on uploads starting with his Mullinsverse content and finishing HSH yesterday. Was bummed that it would take a while before I could get my next hit and this MADLAD uploads the VERY NEXT DAY. Literally an hour before I get out of work. Thank you so very much
Man, I just want you to know that your production value is insane and your videos are so well laid out and presented that you're blowing every other long form gaming content creator out of the water with the quality. I can't wait to see you succeed bro.
This game has always been on my mind ever since I watched Two Best Friends play it years ago and I could never get over how interesting everything is along with how you can unravel the story. Thank you for covering it!
Hello Unpolished Poopdick. I am back again, I gotta say, you're reminding me more and more of pre-professional production JonTron! Of course with your own longform personality, and personal effects. It's really refreshing to see such a nostalgic style, I'm excited to return to these videos in a few years after you take off in the algorithm (again). As before, I'm leaving this comment when I am the start of the video. Like a greeting, hello. Also your Home Safety Hotline video was spectacular, I couldn't tear myself away from the screen! I'm sure there's probably an info-packet for that though.
I really appreciate the sidenote about her face being blank when she says she loved Simon seeming suspicious, is specifically in relation to this being an actress in a fictional world! Some people irl have a tendency to shut down emotionally or simply emote less when they're experiencing extreme emotions, and other people very often assume that means they don't carr, which can be very damaging. Obviously in situations like this game (regardless of whether that's the case here, I'm only 11 minutes in and have no idea) you can get wrongfully blamed for something because people find you suspiciously unaffected by something, but I've also had experiences where someone did something cruel to me, and then justified it to me and others by saying it couldn't have been that bad since I wasn't upset. So yeah, thank you so much for touching on this Mr Peacock!!
I don't know where to suggest this, or if this has been suggested already, but I would love watching your take on Slay the Princess! Anyways, I love when the notification arrives, thanks for everything, bons baisers de France ;)
I haven't watched the video yet , but I just wanted to express my delight and slightly scared awe at the uploading speed. It's really impressive, but please don't burn yourself out!
your style of putting everything in place and keeping in mind is what i’ve been waiting for when it comes to this game’s story! i’ve been praying for times like this
As someone with DID (thank you for the respect btw) my cope for the theory is the same as the actor's performance: the tattoo could easily be temporary. Weve gone to some pretty funny extremes to feel individuality so bulk buying a temp tattoo of an apple and snake you saw in hot topic is well within the realm of believability for me. Especially because (if you're not getting along well) it comes with the free punishment of making them peel it off. Bruise is harder but that what cope is for Also as for the wind and rain song, the final morbid bit about fiddles is how the folksong actually ends ( in the version i found, anyway). My interpretation of the original uses the final part to explore storyteller's tendencies to callously scalp emotion from real tragedies to gain power and influence, plucking the bones from her hands and very breast to tell her story from their hands. What it means for Her Story, maybe Eve really likes the idea that a story can be so scultped postmortem. Perhaps???
I havent thoughts about this game in years. The amount of memories that are flooding back god i wish i could forget everything i learned about this game.
Around the 1:08:00 mark, I believe you forgot to mute the b-roll footage so the clips were playing the audio over you talking. I was crocheting in the background and had to stop to make sure i could concentrate on what you were saying 😅 (Absolutely love this channel and watch every upload as they come out, you do amazing work and really do justice to the media you talk about, thank you for your hard work ❤)
Here's a floppy one for ya: Eve does not exist. Not in a "she's a legal ghost" way. Not in a "she's just a construct" way. In a "Hannah is a sociopath weaving a story to get away with another murder" way. Tattoo could be just a temp(and with pause between interviews while she lawyers up could be made permanent). It would explain all the "slips". She uses the interviews to plant a rich seedbed of hooks that aren't real clues but will take the cops, infatuated with a compelling narrative of discovering a decades long mystery, on a wild goose chase. As for "another" part. Well, the parents are obvious. She knew the house and she knew death caps. And maybe Florence. Hannah's parent's are noted to have been always busy. Who would make a better babysitter that an elderly midwife who helped with her birth? But who would be more boring for a kid to stay with than an elderly midwife? She'd probably be acquitted by a jury of her peers on that one. Additionally, in the end Sarah is asked if she now understands why her mother, "Eve", did what she did. But what she did? Aiding and abetting her sister doesn't seem like much of a mysterious motivation.
Exactly what I'm thinking too. It seems like its intentionally easy to get sucked into the Mysterious or tragic backstories she's weaving. That she too often acts in a way that is contradicting or confusing. We only have her words, Her Story, to work with. It seems to me that she is intentionally setting up both interpretations, feeding them with "Slip ups", so that if someone disagrees with one they'll be drawn to the other as they are set up to be dichotic. Meanwhile the third option, the simplest and with least leaps of logic, that she is weaving a story to get away with murder slips under the radar. Whether she does so by being declared to not have been the murderer and rather an accomplice or to be mentally unwell and thus not fit to be judged under regular law is both acceptable from where she sits. People often want to feel clever, so give them a puzzle with false solutions and they'll happily walk away never knowing they were wrong.
Yeah, but weren't there 3 pairs of fingerprints at the murder scene? Simon and Hannah are 2, but who would the third be? If that was explained, I'd also believe in the "Eve was a story" theory
Haven't finished video yet to see if it comes up, but thoughts from my playthrough: I feel like there's a very strong possibility that actually Simon was having an affair with someone else entirely, a blonde, and this whole thing is a very convoluted way to ensure that she can plead insanity even if they don't believe the twins thing, by erasing *her* from the narrative completely. If she's not twins, it was a delusion; if she's twins, her sister did it. But those aren't the only two possibilities! It's such a "mom" thing to do, too: don't ask "what do you want for a snack", just say "do you want an apple or an orange" so the kid doesn't say they want candy...
I definitely think Eve killed their parents, and I think Hannah suspects that that’s the case When she’s talking about it in the interview she has this tone, staring off into space as she ruminates on it as if she’s realizing in that moment that there is ONE person who might’ve had motive- or maybe she’s just going over a suspicion she already had before. Meanwhile in Eve’s confession at the end, she talks about how the police ruled it an accident and “didn’t even check the attic”. Based on the tone and the context of the statement, it sounds like she’s implying that they would’ve figured out it wasn’t an accident if they had checked the attic i.e if they’d found /her/ up there.
the tragic love story under the system theory is so compelling. Simon, somehow finding Eve out in the world and loving her just as much as Hannah. Him perhaps understanding what he was experiencing (shown by him creating a twin gift, the mirror, which from Eve's perspective would have been romantic; despite the violent rage it causes the jealous Hannah) but the three of them not able to live their happily ever after despite Simon's gentle intentions. idk if that's floppy enough for y'all 😅
This is about to be an amazing watch, I remember being obsessed with this game a few years back but never really figuring out the end or anything like that!
So I've finished the video, and I have a different theory. What if Hannah poisoned her parents, because she was trying to kill Eve? Eve said that she had been feeling sick and slept really hard, through their parent's death - I am SERIOUSLY wondering how the hell Eve stayed in the attic and was able to eat - where was the food coming from? Was she taking food from their parents' fridge? At the time it doesn't seem like Eve would have had access to much money, so I can see Hannah bringing in extra food into the house that was supposedly for their parents, but also for Eve, that sort of thing. If Eve had been feeling sick she might not have eaten very much, which meant she might have gotten a smaller dose of the poison. I don't know, just seems weird that she's sick at the same time that their parents are murdered. And I can see their dad not looking too closely at food that their loving daughter had made for them, thus not noticing the mushrooms being suspicious.
At your recommendation, my mystery solving mother and I gnawed on this game like a strip of raw hide for about three days straight. This game was practically made for our brains. Sadly we got kind of frustrated once we reached the bottom layer of things, as we weren't really satisfied with nebulously juggling between two possible answers. I think we ultimately believe in the system theory, as Eve's backstory is just too preposterous, but we can't really get past the extra fingerprints to call it a case closed. Either way, we thoroughly enjoyed the ride, so thank you for taking the time to talk about it!
Bro I’ve been watching your stuff since you covered Faith. I didn’t even play the game, but your enthusiasm for the things you cover is infectious. Love the way you write and present. You really treat games as an art form, though your movie stuff is great as well. No one really makes content like you, where they really dig in to the fine details of the game, most people just do broad strokes. I like how you present as if we are playing the game with you, sprinkling bits of analysis and commentary. Building up to the end where you present everything and offer deeper analysis/commentary. The white board helps keep everything coherent if I get lost. It’s almost like you’re a detective figuring out a game and its motive. All that makes it really engaging for relatively long videos. You are doing the art form a service. Your channel deserves to take off. ✌️
33:20 we did learn hannah's name right here though. eve mentioned it when she was talking about how they had to look the same and have the same bruises
Yea it was funny having Flaw be like "let's call her Sister H" and then at one point actually referring to her as Hannah before he does the "big reveal"
gonna assume that he filmed different bits in different times just to keep one train of thought after the other. that's how i would do it, and it would also explain why he had that error
@@MackieLarsyeah his video is such an time extensive task and this channel being an one man show, errors are bounds to happens. It adds to the authenticness of it tho
This makes me want to see an in-depth floppy breakdown about Martha is Dead. Another funky Twin mystery, but has a LOT more going on within it than meets the eye. It's extremely dark, but is a great game. The true twist of that story makes me think of this one, and that it's likely the same thing happening here. I won't spoil Martha is Dead, only because more people should play that game.
Hey floppy weird comment here but not to get floppy with it myself, I just got power back after a nonstop hell of being unprepared for the hurricane that just hit our area and went through 3 and a half days of hell fighting for supplies, gas, and helping out family also in need with a infant and no power themselves. And logging on and being surprised to see Her story is literally the thing I needed to see to bring me back down from the anxiety high i've been forced on. I saw her story back during yogscast kim semi playthrough on her channel back in 2015 when I was still in highschool and seeing you finish the story that she started almost a decade before really just gave me back my humanity. Thank you.
Hello!! System here!! Recent fan of your channel as your videos are great to listen to while I do college work. I really appreciate you talking about things in a sensitive manner when it comes to DID, we can tell you've genuinely put effort into understanding it. I'm currently at 2:29:30 of the video, so if you address this later I apologise. Regardless, if we take Hannah as the host, but suddenly her disappearing with Eve becoming the main alter who presents herself, that's not super far-fetched. A host, or any alter, may go dormant after a severely traumatic event (such as a murder), meaning that another alter may have to pick up the slack. Just thought you'd find that interesting lmao. I do subscribe to twin theory more but yk, the more you know ✨
Perhaps the part of the song about the body being used to make a fiddle is a reference to the phrase “played them like a fiddle” which would fit with all the lying?
My second time going around to watch this and I wanna say I really appreciate you kinda acting as the detectives and asking the questions in the interviews because it makes it so much easier to follow along
I have a theory about the ending. I think you play as Eve's daughter and her mother, Eve, is in jail because she chose to take the fall for her twin sister and is in jail. Eve most likely let her sister, Hannah, take the wig (which is missing) and take her place as a 'ghost in the machine', although if she ever got fingerprinted it would be a problem as her fingerprints would be recognized. Her daughter is working to understand why her mother is in jail. I think the police would have no choice but to arrest Eve as Hannah is 'missing' and unless the police could get a hold of both sisters, they wouldn't be able to prove the twin theory. That's all I got.
I actually tried to google the laws for the UK on sentencing pregnant women and I couldn't find anything. I didn't too look too long but I can only *assume* that if eve did end up getting sentenced, she most likely didn't have a baby in jail or go to jail(for very long if at all). Looking into more information for the UK laws at the time of or before 1994 would maybe add more context to the ending too.
The attic is a metaphore - it means brain. Our brain is located "upstairs", right under "the roof" of our body. Hannah opened the door hid Eve in the attic = she welcomed her other personality with open arms. A little introverted, shy girl living in the world of fairytales was happy to have a companion. The police and parents never looking into the attic = they never found out about Eve. But at some point cracks started to show more and more - Eve was pulling all the boys, they prefered her to Hannah. One day they met Simon who was more interested in Hannah though. That's why she didn't want to share anymore, as finally she was the one being prefered. Eve didn't like it. Hannah became pregnant, moved out and started living her own life. Eve saying "I was still living in the attic" means she didn't disappear. Simply became "caged" by Hannah and almost forgotten, as she enjoyed her new life. Eve would still take control from time to time though. Started sleeping around either to damage Hannah's reputation (if Simon finds out, he'll divorce her and this will make Hannah weaker, easier to be manipulated by Eve) or even wanted to make Hannah lose her baby (notice how happy she is about it - the whole "universe corrected itself" nonsense). Then, Eve poisoned their parents, so Hannah becomes even weaker and moves back to her family house. The house where Hannah and Eve had their best years. This kicks in nostalgia and makes Hannah even more vulnerable. Eve saying "Hannah didn't want the attic to be redecorated" or something like that = she rejected the option of therapy and meds after the big trauma (probably offered by Simon) as she was scared, the psychologists and psychiatrists would find out Eve existed.
2:37:40 god dang it this scared me more than it shouldve lmao, you added this same sound effect on the "whos lila" retrospective and i keep falling for it
i'm playing immortality right now and it's making me go absolutely insane (in a good way lol). the first time i found The Thing sent me right into a nose dive of scanning through all the scenes i had found thus far and i still can't get enough of that feeling. i would LOVE to see you sink your teeth into it at some point!!!
The Thing was practically a drug for me, like I sometimes wonder if I'm ever going to feel quite like that playing a video game ever again. Heady stuff.
@@Nassifeh I felt the same way! it was unnerving at first but I've grown so fond of it. finding it again and again is such a special feeling. absolutely incredible stuff
I just finished the video and I have to say I very much enjoyed your System Theory. I played Her Story upon it's release since I heard a lot of good things about it and it being a detective style game it's right up my alley. But I was let down by it. The mystery didn't grab me and the secret twin narrative was too absurd for me to really buy into. Your System Theory and the evidence you put forward, even if it is as you said not likely, does add another layer to the game and makes me appreciate it more now than my own initial playthrough.
There's one minor throughline that you appear to have missed: Hannah's wedding ring. Hannah almost never fusses with it, likely because she's just used to wearing it all the time. But when we see Eve with the ring, even during Interview 1, she fidgets with her hands quite a bit- most prominently fiddling with the ring. Now, I think you could argue for this making sense in either of the two main theories being posited here, but the real clincher for me is the final interview. Eve very specifically does not have the ring anymore, and though she does still fidget with her hands quite a bit, it's not until near the very end- where she recalls The Birthday Incident- that we can see her rubbing at where the ring WOULD be. If we follow the logic that she intended to maintain the charade as seen through the lie detector test and your stated implications, why would she no longer be wearing the ring? Personally, I think it's a sign that Hannah took off with what few things were important to her, and Eve is staying behind to distract, just like with the Glasgow alibi (even though she realizes the writing might be on the wall for the whole scheme.)
I can't believe you're actually covering this game. I think it genuinely changed my brain chemistry when I played it the first time, so excited to see your experience with it now!
I'm barely into this vid but I have to say how excited I am as a total newcomer to this channel. I was OBSESSED with this game when it came out and someone going through it and drawing it all on a board just gives me so much satisfaction. You may get into this, but the interesting thing I found about this game was that because you can experience the story in totally different orders, I think that influences people into having different interpretations of it.
Love this game, such a great fit for this channel. And I popped off when you said you were working up to Immortality, I cannot wait to see you examining it once you get there :)
actually put this video to the side to check the game out for myself (currently on sale) and played it. Sadly i wasn't able to 100% it, but definitely enjoyed my time with it, now it's time to enjoy this video, thank you mr. Peacock ( also I am very glad that I wasn't the only one to theorize a did system being implemented.)
Sometimes i just wanna see an uncut version of how Flawpea rants and goes off script into the camera cuz good lord i could watch this man ramble for days
HELL YEAH I brought up Immortality in a comment and you replied it was on your list to look into so I'm really happy to see you dropping a video on it's predecessor. As much as I'd love it all the same if you did a behemoth on a talked-about-to-death game like Signalis, I LOVE how much obscure shit you cover. I never would have heard about some really cool games I now love beyond reason thanks to you and now you're diving into something that was already a favorite of mine but underdiscussed. Or at least I Imagine you will be (haven't watched yet, if you mention it), because Her Story didn't do it for me but Immortality shook my soul the first time.
I'm pretty sure Signalis was mentioned directly in one of his videos as a project in the pipeline. Don't quote me on that though, I have a garbage memory. Like you said, that game has a LOT going on, so if I'm correct I'm going to assume it's going to take a bit to put a video together.
As a Scottish person who loves Limmys Show its so fucking awesome that you do too. Glad Scottish comedy had travelled across the pond! Another banger Mr Peacock, you really are incredible at what you do!
I JUST finished watching your video on Who’s Lila! I will be watching on and off throughout work 😊 Edit: I finally finished this and you are legitimately one of the best content creators on this platform. How do you not have over a million subscribers?!
The mouse cursor dancing while the sister was playing her songs was really cute. Sorry I don't have any deeper contributions than that, just thought I'd mention it.
And the way it stopped for a moment when the dark lyrics appeared before continuing to dance 😆 I don't know how a mouse cursor can emote but Mr. Peacock managed to do it.
I hadn't noticed the cursor, so you enhanced the video to me. So you could consider it a contribution of my enjoyment, so thank you!
The ballad is a variant of the drowned sister/drowned swan/two sisters folk story. There are several of these but they follow the same beats, sister one has thing that sister two wants (sometimes there's a third sister but the story is the same with or without them), sister two drowns sister one, sister one's body floats along until someone sees the body and mistakes it for a swan(while OCCATIONALLY its a mermaid, its 90% of the time a swan), the body is dismembered and turned into an musical instrument usually something with strings like a harp or a fiddle, this person takes the sister instrument and plays it before her family where through music she manages to speak and accuse sister one of killing her.
You asked, "a swan, what's that about?" and its a little hard to say. Its likely a combination of metaphors, swans are seen to represent love, beauty, and purity. But likewise we have dozens of stories involving people cursed to transform into birds, but particularly a large number involving maidens turned into swans. This choice likely feeds into that aforementioned symbolism of purity and beauty within the maiden, but this therefore leads a new metaphoric meaning to a swan, transformation.
So to see the dead sister as a swan is likely a combination of these two ideas; alluding to the transformation the sister has undergone (being dead) and will later undergo (being turned into a musical instrument) and notions of her observable purity and beauty, perhaps even the tragedy of the death of such a pure and beautiful thing.
I've always seen the Swan line as just a poetic visual, a floating body in a white dress looking like a Swan
But the version I listen to puts the line as "father fish in the dam, for there's either a maid or a milk white Swan has drowned in the dams of Minorie"
Swans are symbolic of the ability to break a man’s arm
I've always heard the lyrics "and she floated till she came to the miller's pond, dead on the water like a golden swan"
Swans are known to drown people who get too close to their eggs, which I believe is a common reason, though it's a rare one. Another reason for the Swan is likely that the Sister is beautiful, like how Swans are described as well.
I love how from eve's point of view its a happy fairytale, escaping from the witch and gaining a sister, but from hannah's point of view its a dark and horrible story more like a changeling or doppleganger, one day someone who looks like her shows up and she lets her stay and in return shes forced to live half a life and is routinely tortured (gets a tooth pulled without anaesthetic, hairbrush incident, punched because of something eve did etc) and ends up losing her parents, baby (not literally but she loses her ability to give birth to simons child while eve can), and husband to this doppleganger like no wonder she was violent sometimes and ended up snapping
Flawed peacock saying ‘she thought she ate’ killed me😭
Sameee omg it caught me so off guard
LMAO I was surprised when I heard that but he’s right tho, she did NOT eat at all
@@Kenns-i think she kind of did actually! We don’t get a clear view of the watch but i think going off of what shes saying and it being stopped it implies it might be broken in some way. If this is true, it could be assumed that it broke during the scuffle that killed him, showing his time of death/attack. Under those very specific circumstances she ate lol
Your output is actually insane. Like you rejected quality vs quantity as a false dichotomy and opted for both. It's inspiring to me, who struggles to start things--let alone finish them.
Thanks for doing what you do. You are appreciated.
It’s probably because, pound for pound, a lot of it seems wholely unedited. The bulk of it, the explanations and whiteboards, are presented pretty much ad libbed beyond a handful of talking points per section. The longest lulls in uploads are easy to chalk up as information density (see: the four part Inscryption series).
This isn’t me dissing the craftsmanship of course, it’s just an explanation of why this man is inexplicably underrated
@@lancesmith8298 Nah he has scripts, except for the floppy bits he gets distracted by (endearingly)
@@lancesmith8298he’s posted the scripts before but the fact you think it’s not scripted shows how underrated this channel is
@@redwiltshire1816 I'd think during the script writing phase, he keeps the more spontaneous, floppy thoughts in since this is a less formal type of presentation. Allows more
screentime and personality to come through.
@@sneakrrr probably it keeps it more real and allows people to look at a story from multiple perspectives compared to most RUclipsrs who tend to just stick only to the fact and nothing else
The actress is really good at changing the speech patterns between Hannah and Eve.
For the entirety of my playthrough I was just silently praising Viva Seifert
and the writer for the dialogue
“thank you mr. peacock” we all chant in unison
THANK YOU MR PEECOCK
thank you mr. peacock
cool pfp
thank you mr. peacock
Thank you, Mr. Peacock 🙏
So, the song they sing is an old folktale, and I'm not sure if she sings it in full in game. But in the song, the fiddler plays the fiddle made of the dead sister at if I recall correctly, the wedding feast, and it wails out in her voice and tells the truth of her murder in front of everyone. So this could possibly indicate that one of the sisters is deliberately trying to out the other as a murderer.
This was the exact conclusion I came to as well!
Woah, that's metal
This is sadly, the kind of game you can only experience once. 10 years later and i still remember the twist.
Ikr, the discovery is so good. This one got me hooked with a lot of detective like games.
I don't know if that's true. I've seen a few playthroughs and there are definitely different conclusions that you can reach based on which evidence you prioritise. The second experience will definitely be different, and it might be something where it's worth playing it and then sitting with someone else while they play it. I've had that experience with choice-based narratives before, and it works better than trying to consciously make different choices yourself.
That goes for most games tho tbf
induce amnesia and you can re-experience a lotta things!
I just replayed before watching this vid. It's been several years, and while I definitely remembered the twin twist, I'd forgotten 98% of the other smaller twists and turns. Plus, I didn't try too hard to pick out the different twins in my first playthrough, so that made for a nice second playthrough challenge.
As soon as you pointed out the bruises I was just like "Ah yes secret twins"
When he said "No reason to be so coy now" after the Bruise 4 clip, I paused the video, thought for about 10 seconds, then went with "I got nothing, hit me", and absolutely did hit me
I've watched a "chronological" order video of Her Story several times over the years. I'm obsessed with the actress in this game and it's just too good. Thanks for covering this fantastic story!
What videos have you watched 👀, I'd like to watch as well without looking 😊
"It's about planting a whole bunch of seeds and watching nothing grow" cracked me up. I love your humor, it's cute!
I finally got the name after shouting out " aw sweet a new Flawed Peacook video came out" and my friend in the other room screamed "what the hell did you just say?"
ME TOO I JUST SAID IT IN PUBLIC AND REALISED EHAT I SAID.
I got it after I recommended his first video to a friend and he told me I was a fool
what abt all the times he said the characters name in his videos lol?
It used to be flaw peacock like 3 vids ago
@@wordswarsandsymphoniesHe couldn't have laced the inuendo any thicker lol
I would KILL for you to do a video on the book “house of leaves”. it seems 100% like your thing based on these videos.
Or even myhouse.wad, which is very much inspired by HoL
This or if he wanted to keep the video game format up, My House.wad would be an adequate substitute.
Thanks for reminding me that I still need to read that!!
He would be the only one to do that book justice
@@justcommoncurti was just about to comment this!!! MyHouse.WAD is RIGHT up his alley!!
Finding an 1hr old Flawed peacock video is like walking into your home and you can smell someone baked
I'm sorry for correcting grammar, but smelling someone baked means you smell a person who has been baked-
"Someone cooked here."
@@PhantomGato-v-or someone who is baked in which case still works both ways
This perfectly encapsulates how I feel
@@PhantomGato-v- Honestly, both are good signs 😂
Haven’t actually watched this yet, but I remember playing this game, following key words to certain clips, and then suddenly getting an achievement that was like “You did it! You solved it!” and I just sat there like “… I did?!”
So I’m looking forward to this deep dive.
It lets you *choose* whether you're done at one point--well before you've really seen everything. There is an achievement that pops if you say yes, but that's because the real answer is clearly no. If a game achievement ever pops for you "finishing" the game and it seems way too early for the game to be done, it's probably a fake out and worth Googling to check.
OH MY GOD! I meant to listen to this while I was working today and it completely slipped my mind because I listened to the Futurama theme on loop, like, a hundred times instead... So, uh, I guess I'm watching it 10 hours later instead lmao!
I would give a lot for you breaking down "the infectious madness of Dr. Dekker"
Its a similar game to this, you interrogate psychiatric patients after something happened to the titular Dr. Dekker (I think)
Its such an interesting game I watched a casual playthrough years ago but the story is so hard to grasp
Omg, another person who's played that game! I also thought it'd be perfect for one of these videos, together with The Shapeshifting Detective (since those two are connected iirc?)
@@duttfisch ah true I forgott about the shapeshifting Detective
They are also a bit silly and connected to cult/supernatural stuff, so I feel like he could have a lot of fun getting floppy with it :D
Yes! The actors do such a good job with their characters and being charismatic that you want to trust everyone when you can’t
only know that game becuase of the feet screenshot on the switch eshop
YES i wanted to suggest the same, glad someone already has!!
You have the perfect way of story telling that gets my neurodivergent brain happy
Literally!!!! Its like the perfect blend of letting me understand subtext and symbolism that doesn't register with me AND listening to a friend infodump about something they enjoyed and I really love that!!
@@gurm1155 Absolutely!!!! I like that he makes everything obvious, like lays it out in the most understandable dissected fashion!!! And Im a sucker for long videos
@@quokkappy504not only does he dissect it, he also allows things to play and lets you draw your own conclusions, or even leads you towards the right answer without spoiling the next clip which is an incredible skill. My mans dont get enough respect right now, but he's gonna show em 😤
Yes! Couldn't have said it better myself. I can get weirdly obsessed with learning abstractly about all those things in great detail, subtext, motivations, symbolisms. And this is just very systematic and thorough, while also presenting it as a genuine experience of the medium, instead of just looking at it in summary.
Witewawwy neurodiverse and a minor?
I feel like a big drawback to the twin theory is why Hannah and Eve would switch off being interviewed at all. It would make more sense and be far more consistent if only one twin spoke with the police.
Switching off would just be asking to get caught.
Oh, I have an answer to the twin theory! Correct me if I’m wrong, but in one of the clips, one of the two sisters asks about getting her blood drawn for records. In another clip, Eve mentions having an STD. It’s possible that they realized partway through that the medical records that suggest an STD might raise some eyebrows if Hannah were to ever get a blood test.
I think the reason may be the lie detector test. Eve fails the first question when she said her name was Hannah so that would probably make the police question her identity
@@AutoRoboto05 Yeah, but weren't they switching before Hannah volunteered her blood for the record?
@@dustrose8101 yeah, because they were expecting to get blood drawn. They wouldn’t ask about it if they thought it was a possibility.
@@AutoRoboto05 No I mean why would Hannah bring up drawing blood in the first place if it has the potential to compromise their cosplay as one person? From what we can gather, the police asked to take her fingerprints, and she volunteers the blood as additional proof of identity. You wouldn't volunteer to take the blood test if it could blow your cover.
I love you at 1:18:40 dancing along to the song, stopping for a second when they talk about making a bow out of her hair, and then just continuing to jam
What I think can explain the fingerprints in the bedroom is that Simon actually might have cheated with another person and it flew under Eve's and Hannah's radar (which often happens with cheating)
especially if it was just a one time or short-term thing, obviously they would have no reason to suspect anything, but when police comes and does full forensic search, the fingerprints would be found.
She calls out that Simon liked the blonde woman from the bar. Helen? That stands out to me as being significant.
He also was already not wearing his wedding ring at the bar when he approached Eve
2:40:15 "I don't recall if there was a June 31st (interview)" Flaw Peacock is from a parallel world where there is an extra day in June confirmed.
Genuinely I thought he was saying he didn't know if there was a Jun 31st the date
I noticed Eve said the cellar is where ‘you put things you don’t need’. Unless I’m getting it mixed up, Eve was put in the cellar by Florence
Believe she was put in the attic, or at least somewhere with a window where she could wave at Hannah. But that note on the basement as somewhere you put things you dont need could have subliminally been Eve throwing some shade at Simon considering it's where his body goes, and she likely as the cool one decided where to hide it?
She was in the attic
@@henotic.essence when she moved in with her sister, but when she lived with Florence is what op was talking about
@@lealeapants9011 Eve could look out the window to see their neighbors/see Hannah. And Hannah saw could see her back.
Since the parents never went to the attic, i took it as Eve staying at the attic at Florence and you can only see that from the other side.
I filled this in cause otherwise the plot hole would be that the parents would have to have seen Eve at least a couple of times during those years.
I do think there is something to the system theory -- not so much that it's a definitive "answer" to Hannah and Eve's nature, but the ambiguity of the situation feels very intentional. I think one of my favourite lines was Eve saying, "When Hannah was born, I was born at the same time"; it's technically true to say of your twin, but *sounds* almost mystical, like Eve was a spirit invoked at the moment Hannah was born.
Yeah usually you'd say "I was born just three minutes later" or something. Good catch!
Telling my roommate there was a new Flawed Peacock video, realizing it was 4 hours long and then realizing it's going to be another series was the absolute best build up for me. Got a lot of crocheting done in those 4 hours too
Kinda a floppy idea but I've seen people with DID often describe their internal world as a physical space or like an "extra room in a house". Leaning into the alters theory could the attic not have been real and that's why the police 'didn't search it' and the parents/Simon seemingly never went in there? And the idea of them going to play there is equivalent to entering their internal world (hence the associations with fairy/fantasy stories and the doll house that seemingly didn't fit)?
Oor there was a real attic but the 'Attic' Eve/Hannah talk about isn't the real attic.
@@frogbirds brilliant idea heres my two cent as a system
What you are describing is generally described as « headspace » a place where you can interact with other alters or ideas in your head.
Headspace usually is made from things of the everyday life of the system, a place where someone feels safe might exist in headspace, or somewhere you go usually might be in headspace. It
really depends from system to system
@@alt-q1y i have read the dsm-5 the disorder is dissocialitve and exist on a spectrum of severity of symptom.
Yes the paper book text DID says there is no memory sharing betweens alters but thats false for some system. Especially when there is therapy or recovery process.
Did is also not the only disorder with the existence of distinct « other person » there is the OSSD (other specified Dissociative Disorder) even C-Ptsd
I understand your intention was to re actualize the fact that did is a disorder with debilitating symptoms, but it would be untrue to say that there is no headspace when some people with did do have a headspace.
Varies from system to system the DSM-5 is a good baseline but it shouldn’t exclude other systems that experience life differently
Also a system here, reading it as a headspace is definitely an interesting take! There's a place in ours that just seems like a child's bedroom and if we didn't know better could totally be mistaken for an irl room.
I played this with my mother years ago. I had a health scare today and ended up at the hospital. This video made the wait a lot easier. Thank you for your impeccable timing.
"What's good for the goose is good for the goose" made me chuckle.
So I'll jut say for my two cents, i don't think the system theory makes much sense given things like the tattoo and the bruise, as well as other things like Simon genuinely believing there to be two of them because of said tattoo. Like, if there was only one Hannah, why would he specifically take note of the tattoo at the bar? Why would she be hiding it at home with him but not hiding it at the bar? I guess you could make it work, but I don't think so personally.
However, I do think there's a more compelling "There are no twins" reading of the work, and that is the reading that Hannah invented Eve entirely specifically to throw off the police. In this situation, things that don't add up in other peoples' behaviors/Hannah's appearance (like Simon taking note of the tattoo, the tattoo being there for one interview but not for others, the bruise that appears and then disappears) can all be chalked up to deliberate fabrication. Hannah decides when she's going to act like Eve and when she's not, she reinforces this fabrication by giving herself a black eye and then covering it up with makeup, she covers her tattoo up with makeup on some interviews but not others, all to construct an elaborate alibi and cast just enough doubt on herself that the police can't justify charging her with murder. One piece of evidence for this theory: During the lie detector scene, she deliberately sighs heavily after saying her own name, thus messing with her breathing and heart rate. Given how lie detectors work, this would throw the results off, and make her name look like a lie. If she was scheming, this then gives more credence to this idea that she's not really the perpetrator, aka Hannah, but instead this mostly innocent twin sister, Eve. So taking all this into account, it's possible that Hannah is just a master manipulator (i'd argue that the interviews show that both twins are extremely adept at manipulation, if nothing else) and could be messing with the police to get away with murder and essentially restart her life as a new person, as Eve, and let Hannah "disappear."
"Given how lie detectors work"
One problem there, chief: lie detectors *don't* work.
@@GigasGMX id say the way she said "so it works" (paraphrasing) so confidently might be an indicator that she knows how to manipulate a lie-detector test! she knows theyre bogus so she uses it to her advantage by making it "confirm" she lies about her name and nothing else
@@GigasGMX They're meant to study the person and analyse how they react to questions, not necessarily whether or not they're straight up lying (hence them not being used in court as concrete evidence). They offer us insights into the person's mind and mannerisms, but we cannot definitively know if they're lying or just good at maintaining calmness.
I came searching for someone discussing this theory, that Hannah invented Eve in order to get away with murdering Simon. Is it not reasonable doubt to some extent? If 'they had never been caught' regarding Eve having to get her own identity, then Hannah can, at the very least, forever claim innocence. 'I am Eve, my twin committed the murder, this is a case of mistaken identity'
I’m actually so glad you legitimately took the time to examine the “one body two minds” possibility because so many see it as a theory you only make if you “misunderstand the game” but there is legitimately SO much that leads to that as a theory.
Yeah dismissing it out of hand seems off. Is it really less fantastical then hiding a twin in the attic
@@honestkyn718I do get why people do it but a lot of the community around the game(at least in the RUclips comments) dismiss it because of the(I’ll be fair VERY compelling) tattoo and don’t want to look deep into it.
yeah, i prefer the DID theory and have been trying to rationalize the tattoo in my hear
@@2stral I love the idea of them using canceler or makeup to hide it
@@strawberryqueen0382 yeah. like, how'd they do it on set? that'd work
maybe it makes eve more comfy im front
Coming home after work and seeing a fresh, still-warm of the oven peacock? Don't mind if I do.
why do they call it oven when you of in the cold flaw of out hot eat the peacock 🤔
@@narrowstairs7 Yes.
@@narrowstairs7Depends. Did the peacock flaw the cold before eat hot, or did flaw the cock pea Mummy 2?
@@narrowstairs7 Well probably because when anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like hot pockets.
I've just had multiple strokes because of yall, especially you, MrCardz, smh
The most surreal part of all this is that my initial thought was "oh that old game." I remember when Her Story came out and honestly it's not that old but man do I now feel old
Something I really want to point out is that the player character, Eve's(?) daughter, is named Sarah. Sarah is the name that Hannah wanted for her and Simon's daughter. Hannah is so greatly repulsed by Eve/having a twin/sharing a life with someone that she greatly opposed having Ava as a daughter, because it's symmetrical.
I find that interesting because Eve LOVES the idea of being twins. It made her special, like a princess in a story. So I find it interesting that Eve named her daughter Sarah in the end. It's such a regular, un-princess-like, ordinary name.
I think it leans into Eve thinking of her & Hannah as almost the same person. Hannah & Simon's baby was meant to be Sarah, and now Eve can "complete" the pregnancy with her own Sarah.
Funny thing, I was actually born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck! I really like how they used it in the story, since most people, knowing how humans choke, would probably assume the baby *would* die. But babies don't start breathing through their lungs until the umbilical cord is cut, since they're getting basically everything that allows them to grow and survive through the cord, including oxygen! So, while they had to be very gentle because they're still dealing with a literally newborn baby, all they had to do for me was get me out, unwrap the cord, and then cut it.
Also, I don't know if this happens to all babies who have that happen, but I didn't cry at all after I was born. (Which freaked my mom out to hell and back.) So, if that is a side affect of the cord being wrapped around the neck, Florence *could* probably convince the parents that Eve was dead as long as they didn't get a good look at her. (Since she'd still be looking around and moving.)
It's really interesting to me how I'm able to connect to this story, in a weird way!
I know you said it can seem patronising but tbh I really like your style of explaining bc 1. I'm an idiot and it gives me time to try to put it together before it's all spelled out and 2. I find the way you approach it allows me to consider it in ways I wouldn't necessarily consider it, letting me get a better appreciation of the story. I'm autistic and really bad at understanding subtext and symbolism so I really like this style, because with your trickle information idea it makes me feel smart haha!!!
Edit: oh shit this is the guy who made Immortality??? Lmao I get it now!
With regards to the uh. Hairbrush incident. Not everyone actually has a hymen, and whether or not it's torn during sex has nothing to do with virginity. Just means you need to be gentler and use more lubricant.
Yeah, I guess it's because that myth was really popular when the characters were teens
I think the implication was that he would notice it happening for a second time.
In normal female development, all girls have hymens. It's just a thin layer of tissue that protects the vaginal canal. Many girls suffer hymen injuries in sports and other activities like horseback riding. Many women even have hymenal remnants, or strands of the broken hymen that still remain and can be seen. This commonly happens shortly before and after childbirth, where the remnants can become swollen due to pregnancy hormones. The hymen is a completely normal part of the female anatomy. Whether it is in tact or not has no bearing on an individual's value. We are all worthy in God's eyes 🙏❤️
@@henotic.essence The hymen doesn't cover the vaginal opening, the hymen surrounds the vaginal opening by a few millimetres, and is either circular or crescent in shape. If the hymen is covering the vaginal opening either fully or partially (imperforate covers fully, and microperforate, cribriform and septate cover partially), surgical intervention is required to remove it. Menstrual clots can't pass through microperforate and cribriform hymens, and imperforate hymens don't allow menstrual fluid or tissue to pass at all. This can lead to toxic shock or a major infection of the vaginal canal. Septate hymens are less problematic, but should be removed because they would make potential penetration very uncomfortable. Normal hymens do often tear due to injury during sports, or childbirth. In the case of childbirth, it's usually repaired with stitches or surgical glue after birth. The hymen will recede in the case the it breaks and isn't repaired, which leads to the hymenal remnants that you're talking about. Hymenal remnants often occur *after* childbirth, when the hymen is pushed out of its receded position. Pregnancy hormones don't lead to the swelling of hymenal remnants, it's all the pushing and stretching of the vaginal area that leads to swelling of hymenal remnants. (I don't mean for this comment to be combative or argumentative, just informational. There's a lot of myth and misinformation surrounding discussion of hymens. I did a lot of fact checking while writing this comment.)🙂
I really appreciate the seriousness you brought to the discussion of a system interpretation for E&H. The level of care means a lot, especially when most theorizing around characters with DID is very sensationalist and based in stereotypes. Although I never read DID into the characters when I first played Her Story, hearing your pet theory was compelling and a very fun alternate way to interpret it. As always it was a joy to listen to your thoughtful analysis.
The sisters are trying to imply that Simon's watch broke during his murder. The watch stopped sometime when Simon died, and Hannah was in Glasglow, so thus it can't be her.
Eve probably watches/reads murder mysteries, since some will have the victim's watch break and that will be evidence of when the murder happened.
I've always taken Eve saying "You can't arrest someone who doesn't exist" to mean that the two have swapped one more time. Eve is becoming Hannah for the sake of protecting her sister, and Hannah is becoming someone who does not have a record of her own life.
As someone who is also many people, i really enjoyed floppys descriptions and analysis of the system theory. I can empathize with the "not knowing what happened last week", getting identities mixed up, and another commentor mentioned the attic possibly being the innerworld since none of the real people seemed to know about it. I know they technically are twins but having multiple theories on a story is really fun, and the fact floppy said he doesnt like saying "this is exactly what this means" and having dialogue and ideas
audibly gasped. i was just telling my friend about how you've become my favourite creator on the internet. your voice is really comforting, im always interested in what you have to say. im so happy to see you upload.
As someone with DID, its REALLY refreshing to hear someone talk about DID with respectful (and accurate!) language instead of basically boiling it down to "murder alter disorder". I hate that most DID representation in media is about murderers, but as a mystery writer myself I feel like it could be used for some really interesting stories (if done well and respectfully). Some of your theories line up surprisingly well with what can happen in real systems, it really feels like you tried to do your research.
On host transference: That can happen, but it's not necessarily scary! Often times when a host transference happens, it's because the current host is just not equipped to deal with the current situation (DID is mostly a disorder formed to cope with trauma and stressful situations- if a certain alter cannot handle the situation, a different one switches in to apply a different response, one that might make the system feel safer. That doesn't necessarily mean it WILL make the situation safer, but traumatized brains struggle to realise what is safe and what is not, and oftentimes what is familiar feels safer- even if it's actually harmful). I've had about three or four host transferences through my whole life- yes, the first time I experienced it it was pretty scary, but when you have the right supports in place and a safe enough environment, especially one where you can safely express your plurality (plural/plurality or multiple/multiplicity being another word for being a system), it can be a lot less stressful and even helpful. Also, given enough time and the right kinds of recovery, buried (often referred to as dormant) alters can reemerge later in life. (Our own host from when we were a teenager disappeared after we were out of high school, but a little over five years later we're in a place where they can come back. For some alters it can be like they were still aware "in the background" the whole time, other times it's almost like waking up from a coma and having to be reintroduced to the world. One of our alters went dormant in 2019 and came back in 2023- he almost didn't believe everyone else when they told him The Plague happened while he was gone. We all found it really fucking funny, including him)
Also, there is a possible way that the twins theory and system theory could BOTH be true, in a way. I've heard some stories- though I've never met any systems like this personally- of children who were meant to be twins, but one twin died during pregnancy or infancy, and somewhere down the line the surviving twin forms an alter of their deceased sibling (often called an "introject", when an alter is based on a preexisting person- be it in real life, living or dead, or even fictional). Some alters even come with false memories or pseudomemories (sometimes referred to as "exomemories") that form a rationality as to why they exist or how they formed in the system in the first place. Sometimes, as well, DID can be covert, meaning the person with the condition literally doesn't find out they have it until years and years later (I was actively switching and experiencing symptoms of DID almost four years before anyone in my life ever figured it out). That could mean the pseudomemories take precedent over the real memories in the brain, and the person fully has no idea they're literally living two lives. In a child, those kinds of things can be even harder to parse from reality. It could be that they've formed some pseudomemories in their childhood, and because they likely believed these stories were true as a child, they have very little reason to believe they didn't actually experience those things, unless presented with actual evidence.
In terms of the tattoo basically disproving the system theory: it could be possible that it is some form of temporary tattoo, although that is unlikely. Maybe Eve, every time she switches in, applies the false tattoo, almost to show that it's her in front, and then by the time Hannah comes back, it's been washed off or faded away. The tattoo doesn't look super vivid, possibly faded a bit from the years- although that could be a convenient lie, saying the tattoo is old when really it's just fading from having been on all day.
Their drinks being different also tracks. We have one alter who keeps eating pepperoni pizza even though the rest of us fucking hate pepperoni
EDIT: On fusion of the two identities- fusion is also a thing that can definitely happen in systems! There are technically two things you could be describing here- in a temporary fusion of identity, that's often referred to as "blurring" or "blending", where it's not entirely clear which alter is fronting or perhaps they both are at once, called cofronting. This can happen for various reasons, but usually reverses itself after a relatively short period of time. On the other hand what's called "Final Fusion" can be the end goal stated for most DID recovery, where all the different alters form back into a single identity. Keep in mind, this is not a one size fits all solution- some systems work better with what's called "Functional Multiplicity", or basically continuing to function as multiple while working on fixing the specific distress points of the disorder, like memory issues and uncontrollable switching. My system is currently working towards the latter, and with many years of work, we have lessened our trauma responses and function kind of like a group of friends all trying to keep one very large and temperamental Sim alive.
Sometimes, systems can also have alters that intend to harm other alters in the system, called persecutors. Persecutors are not inherently dangerous- they often form as some sort of defence mechanism, like a forced fight instead of flight response. This can also be a form of self hate ("The kind of hate you can only feel towards yourself," was it?) maybe hating the other alter for being "weak" or "a coward" or for being percieved as not doing enough to protect or help the system as a whole. That one scene in Lord of the Rings where Gollum is having a conversation with Smeagol, calling him weak and mocking him for crying and then deciding to do something horrible because that feels safer and easier than believing that the Hobbits would truly be kind to him? That's a pretty decent example. Sometimes one alter can actually FORCE another alter into dormancy- persecutors can sometimes do this for any of the reasons described above. Smeagol even manages this temporarily in Lord of the Rings, before he's thrown back into abuse and his defence mechanism is forced to reemerge.
Thank you for this. Had a friend with DID back in high school and was flopping back and forth based on the "outsider" perspective on whether or not the system angle was overthinking it or not.
Yes! As another DID system, it's so refreshing to see content with us, especially horror with us, where the catch isnt how scary and murderous we must all secretly be
thank you so much for taking your time and energy to write this comment! i'm not a system myself and though i know a bit from some acquaintances, this was very informative. i also thought of a temporary tattoo but it seems like a bit of an unusual design so unless Eve gets a different one every time, it would be hard to find the same one. still a possibility though!
thank you so much for this comment! I also commented on the way he talked about DID but never would I have written something so well explained and easy to understand like ur comment. I don't have DID but fall in the dissociative spectrum/cptsd and I love to keep myself informed
We agree with this heavily, we can see a lot of potential plurality in this story nowadays
I agree that the best way to describe Her Story is as an interactive investigation. I loved the feeling of slowly unraveling all the red strings and laying it all out on the (metaphorical!) clue board.
Day off from work, crochet WIP, too hot to go outside... And a 4 hour long video about something I haven't heard of in my life? I love you 🥺❤️
Mind if I play some video games while you crochet? We can have a small chat. Maybe some tea? I could bake cookies. Listen to Peacock while we relax and chill...?
Omg I'm crocheting too!
Sweet! Floppy crocheters team 🤌🏻✨ @@demetriam2408
love how how many people seem to do textile arts while watching these videos. i'm personally cross stitching!
OH MY GOD! This is the game that I used to get my sister into video games and now we play together all the time! I can’t wait to watch this and your converge of this series! Immortality was my personal favourite of the three cause it speaks to me but all three are just works of art.
As soon as I saw the lyrics of the Wind and Rain song, I immediately thought of The Bonny Swans by Lorena McKinnett. It's awesome to see that song get some referenced recognition. Thanks for the vid as usual Mr Floppy👏👏👏
It might actually be a reference to the story that inspired Lorena McKinnon song (The Twa Sisters, the Bonny Swans, The Wind and Rain).
At 46:47 i couldn’t help bust out with a “Two in, one! Two, in one!”
It really is all connected!
Edit: I’m adding a thought that occurred to me at the knock code part don’t hit read more if you care about potential spoilers.
What if she isn’t slipping up? What if this is all intentional? Twins living one life or an individual with a split personality is very compelling and interesting as a story, but what if that’s the point? Present two possibilities one outlandish(Twins living a single life) and the other deeply tragic(split personality at conflict with themselves) to distract away from a more simple truth? That she knows she is being recorded, that she knew she would be found out, so is now putting on a performance to get acquitted on the grounds of being mentally unwell? After all the only story we get told, the only angle and perspective we are given, is Her Story…
Like I said only at the knock code part so far, so might be brought up as a possibility later on in the video, but I wanted to added it before I forgot too.
The tattoo could be a draw-on too.
@jeebusthegreat8819 that's what I kept thinking, temp tattoos have been a thing for a while, maybe not as real looking as nowadays, but that could be a temp tat, and makeup on the bruise, bam, same person
@@dementia8745 it helps that the camera is complete potato quality too, it's difficult to see the tattoo in any detail and determine if its real or temp.
It would explain why everything she says has that slightly acted, rehearsed tone. I assumed it was just the game hiring an actress who wasn't perfect at sounding natural, but what if it was done intentionally to hint that EVERYTHING was an act?
The attic is probably because of their obsession with the Rapunzel story since she's secretly kept at the top of a tall tower. Rapunzel gave birth to twins in the original story.
Hannah is the witch in Eve's story: she kept Rapunzel hidden in the tower/attic. The witch finding out that Rapunzel was pregnant was how she knew out about the prince, the catalyst for their final conflict. The prince was also tricked into climbing up to a waiting witch with cut/false blonde hair (blonde wig motif) And! The silver stuck in Simon is reminiscent of the thorn stuck in the Prince's eye which had caused his blindness when he fell into a thorny bush after being pushed by the witch.
The beginnings of the Rapunzel story echo through their infertility/miscarriage. In the story, the witch was also Rapunzel's parents' neighbor.
...Unrelated but when the chat said to go across the street I thought it was long lost Hannah trying to get in touch with her niece lol
I have so many thoughts so I'm gonna make this comment as I watch.
Honestly the whole "hairbrush incident" as I'll call it is even more horrifying when you understand that hymen breaking can happen from so much more than sex, and that often it SHOULDN'T break during sex at all.
Also a miscarriage so late and so close to the parents' death also raised a few red flags.
It is also possible that the periods stopped due to a phantom pregnancy (i think that's what it's called) where the body will act as if it is pregnant even though it isnt. There's also lots of other reasons but that's the one that stuck to my brain.
I'm not at the very end yet, still about an hour left as I get to writing this part of my ramblings, but I do believe if twin theory is in play that Eve forced the twinship and that Hannah never wanted it, finally got fed up, and Eve spiraled when Hannah got pregnant (likely offing their parents maybe as revenge for not getting to grow up normally, and potentially had something to do with Hannah's miscarriage especially since it was so complicated that it left Hannah infertile). Hannah might have killed Simon in a blind fit of rage or self defense during the altercation, or it's possible Eve did it and once more forced Hannah back into their twin act. I could believe Eve also finally killing Hannah at the end of it all.
It should also be pointed out how inaccurate lie detector tests are. I know this is fiction but I doubt with how thorough the details have been in this game I feel it's an important detail to keep in mind. Eve could fake her way through to get the response she wanted.
I also feel like Eve projects a lot of her feelings onto Hannah and just doesn't see her as a real person which was why she held onto her so hard even when she supposedly tried to live her own life. She never wanted her own life, she wanted HANNAH's life, even if she might not have been fully aware of it. She said it herself, she thought they HAD to merge back together for EVE to be whole. Hannah was always a tool for Eve to have her fairytale life. At least depending on which stories Eve told were true.
DROPPED EVERYTHING AND SPRINTED TO WATCH THIS MASTERPIECE. WE ARE EATING GOOD TODAY GUYS!!!
"WE LOVE YOU MR. PEACOCK" WE ALL SAY IN UNION
"If I wanted your commentary I'd have ordered the box set" iconic
Peacock joined forces with MattPat and hbomberguy to write a series of video essays exploring the deep lore of video games, entitled The Breaderalist Papers.
The plan was to write a total of 25 essays; the work divided evenly
among the three men.
In the end, they wrote 85 essays in the span of six months.
MattPat quit after writing five. hbomberguy wrote 29.
FLAWPEACOCK WROTE... THE OTHER 51!!
The BREADARALIST PAPERS! That's f**in jokes! Hahahaha!
Considering his release schedule, Hbomb would probably only write 1. It would be fire, tho.
Harold would be busy pretending that he wasn't part of the Metokur trolling group.
Just to make it clear in case anyone is curious, the hymen actually doesn’t always break during sex. It can also break do to rigorous exercise, self pleasure, etc. It can also stay intact. It is not a measure of virginity.
many many thanks for muting the morning sickness part! I have a very bad phobia of vomit so your choice to not show was a lifesaver for me, thank you so much
Having just replayed the game, I was very glad to skip having to hear the morning sickness again.
So I literally just spent the last week binge watching Flawed Peacock to get caught up on uploads starting with his Mullinsverse content and finishing HSH yesterday. Was bummed that it would take a while before I could get my next hit and this MADLAD uploads the VERY NEXT DAY. Literally an hour before I get out of work. Thank you so very much
Man, I just want you to know that your production value is insane and your videos are so well laid out and presented that you're blowing every other long form gaming content creator out of the water with the quality. I can't wait to see you succeed bro.
This game has always been on my mind ever since I watched Two Best Friends play it years ago and I could never get over how interesting everything is along with how you can unravel the story. Thank you for covering it!
Two best friends play was elite
Hello Unpolished Poopdick. I am back again, I gotta say, you're reminding me more and more of pre-professional production JonTron! Of course with your own longform personality, and personal effects. It's really refreshing to see such a nostalgic style, I'm excited to return to these videos in a few years after you take off in the algorithm (again).
As before, I'm leaving this comment when I am the start of the video. Like a greeting, hello. Also your Home Safety Hotline video was spectacular, I couldn't tear myself away from the screen! I'm sure there's probably an info-packet for that though.
I really appreciate the sidenote about her face being blank when she says she loved Simon seeming suspicious, is specifically in relation to this being an actress in a fictional world! Some people irl have a tendency to shut down emotionally or simply emote less when they're experiencing extreme emotions, and other people very often assume that means they don't carr, which can be very damaging. Obviously in situations like this game (regardless of whether that's the case here, I'm only 11 minutes in and have no idea) you can get wrongfully blamed for something because people find you suspiciously unaffected by something, but I've also had experiences where someone did something cruel to me, and then justified it to me and others by saying it couldn't have been that bad since I wasn't upset. So yeah, thank you so much for touching on this Mr Peacock!!
I don't know where to suggest this, or if this has been suggested already, but I would love watching your take on Slay the Princess!
Anyways, I love when the notification arrives, thanks for everything, bons baisers de France ;)
DROPPING EVERYTHING TO WATCH THIS 4 HOUR VIDEO? YES PLEASE
Absolutely loving the way you explore the idea of a single person with a split identity, that had been what I was thinking was the case while playing.
I haven't watched the video yet , but I just wanted to express my delight and slightly scared awe at the uploading speed. It's really impressive, but please don't burn yourself out!
your style of putting everything in place and keeping in mind is what i’ve been waiting for when it comes to this game’s story! i’ve been praying for times like this
As someone with DID (thank you for the respect btw) my cope for the theory is the same as the actor's performance: the tattoo could easily be temporary. Weve gone to some pretty funny extremes to feel individuality so bulk buying a temp tattoo of an apple and snake you saw in hot topic is well within the realm of believability for me. Especially because (if you're not getting along well) it comes with the free punishment of making them peel it off. Bruise is harder but that what cope is for
Also as for the wind and rain song, the final morbid bit about fiddles is how the folksong actually ends ( in the version i found, anyway). My interpretation of the original uses the final part to explore storyteller's tendencies to callously scalp emotion from real tragedies to gain power and influence, plucking the bones from her hands and very breast to tell her story from their hands. What it means for Her Story, maybe Eve really likes the idea that a story can be so scultped postmortem. Perhaps???
I havent thoughts about this game in years. The amount of memories that are flooding back god i wish i could forget everything i learned about this game.
Around the 1:08:00 mark, I believe you forgot to mute the b-roll footage so the clips were playing the audio over you talking.
I was crocheting in the background and had to stop to make sure i could concentrate on what you were saying 😅
(Absolutely love this channel and watch every upload as they come out, you do amazing work and really do justice to the media you talk about, thank you for your hard work ❤)
Here's a floppy one for ya:
Eve does not exist. Not in a "she's a legal ghost" way. Not in a "she's just a construct" way. In a "Hannah is a sociopath weaving a story to get away with another murder" way. Tattoo could be just a temp(and with pause between interviews while she lawyers up could be made permanent). It would explain all the "slips". She uses the interviews to plant a rich seedbed of hooks that aren't real clues but will take the cops, infatuated with a compelling narrative of discovering a decades long mystery, on a wild goose chase.
As for "another" part. Well, the parents are obvious. She knew the house and she knew death caps. And maybe Florence. Hannah's parent's are noted to have been always busy. Who would make a better babysitter that an elderly midwife who helped with her birth? But who would be more boring for a kid to stay with than an elderly midwife? She'd probably be acquitted by a jury of her peers on that one.
Additionally, in the end Sarah is asked if she now understands why her mother, "Eve", did what she did. But what she did? Aiding and abetting her sister doesn't seem like much of a mysterious motivation.
I was thinking the same. After so many years having such a silly slip up as the forgetting about the tattoo happen seems... rather odd.
Exactly what I'm thinking too. It seems like its intentionally easy to get sucked into the Mysterious or tragic backstories she's weaving. That she too often acts in a way that is contradicting or confusing. We only have her words, Her Story, to work with. It seems to me that she is intentionally setting up both interpretations, feeding them with "Slip ups", so that if someone disagrees with one they'll be drawn to the other as they are set up to be dichotic. Meanwhile the third option, the simplest and with least leaps of logic, that she is weaving a story to get away with murder slips under the radar. Whether she does so by being declared to not have been the murderer and rather an accomplice or to be mentally unwell and thus not fit to be judged under regular law is both acceptable from where she sits. People often want to feel clever, so give them a puzzle with false solutions and they'll happily walk away never knowing they were wrong.
Yeah, but weren't there 3 pairs of fingerprints at the murder scene? Simon and Hannah are 2, but who would the third be? If that was explained, I'd also believe in the "Eve was a story" theory
Haven't finished video yet to see if it comes up, but thoughts from my playthrough: I feel like there's a very strong possibility that actually Simon was having an affair with someone else entirely, a blonde, and this whole thing is a very convoluted way to ensure that she can plead insanity even if they don't believe the twins thing, by erasing *her* from the narrative completely. If she's not twins, it was a delusion; if she's twins, her sister did it. But those aren't the only two possibilities!
It's such a "mom" thing to do, too: don't ask "what do you want for a snack", just say "do you want an apple or an orange" so the kid doesn't say they want candy...
I tend to agree that it’s both a way to cover her tracks and in the worst case scenario a bridge to an insanity defense.
I REMEMBER PLAYING THIS YEARS AGO AND NOT UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING THANK U FOR COVERING THIS
I definitely think Eve killed their parents, and I think Hannah suspects that that’s the case
When she’s talking about it in the interview she has this tone, staring off into space as she ruminates on it as if she’s realizing in that moment that there is ONE person who might’ve had motive- or maybe she’s just going over a suspicion she already had before.
Meanwhile in Eve’s confession at the end, she talks about how the police ruled it an accident and “didn’t even check the attic”. Based on the tone and the context of the statement, it sounds like she’s implying that they would’ve figured out it wasn’t an accident if they had checked the attic i.e if they’d found /her/ up there.
the tragic love story under the system theory is so compelling. Simon, somehow finding Eve out in the world and loving her just as much as Hannah. Him perhaps understanding what he was experiencing (shown by him creating a twin gift, the mirror, which from Eve's perspective would have been romantic; despite the violent rage it causes the jealous Hannah) but the three of them not able to live their happily ever after despite Simon's gentle intentions. idk if that's floppy enough for y'all 😅
This is about to be an amazing watch, I remember being obsessed with this game a few years back but never really figuring out the end or anything like that!
So I've finished the video, and I have a different theory. What if Hannah poisoned her parents, because she was trying to kill Eve? Eve said that she had been feeling sick and slept really hard, through their parent's death - I am SERIOUSLY wondering how the hell Eve stayed in the attic and was able to eat - where was the food coming from? Was she taking food from their parents' fridge? At the time it doesn't seem like Eve would have had access to much money, so I can see Hannah bringing in extra food into the house that was supposedly for their parents, but also for Eve, that sort of thing. If Eve had been feeling sick she might not have eaten very much, which meant she might have gotten a smaller dose of the poison.
I don't know, just seems weird that she's sick at the same time that their parents are murdered. And I can see their dad not looking too closely at food that their loving daughter had made for them, thus not noticing the mushrooms being suspicious.
At your recommendation, my mystery solving mother and I gnawed on this game like a strip of raw hide for about three days straight. This game was practically made for our brains. Sadly we got kind of frustrated once we reached the bottom layer of things, as we weren't really satisfied with nebulously juggling between two possible answers. I think we ultimately believe in the system theory, as Eve's backstory is just too preposterous, but we can't really get past the extra fingerprints to call it a case closed. Either way, we thoroughly enjoyed the ride, so thank you for taking the time to talk about it!
I will absolutely be watching this throughout work today. Thank you Mr. Cock!
Bro I’ve been watching your stuff since you covered Faith. I didn’t even play the game, but your enthusiasm for the things you cover is infectious.
Love the way you write and present. You really treat games as an art form, though your movie stuff is great as well. No one really makes content like you, where they really dig in to the fine details of the game, most people just do broad strokes.
I like how you present as if we are playing the game with you, sprinkling bits of analysis and commentary. Building up to the end where you present everything and offer deeper analysis/commentary. The white board helps keep everything coherent if I get lost. It’s almost like you’re a detective figuring out a game and its motive. All that makes it really engaging for relatively long videos.
You are doing the art form a service. Your channel deserves to take off. ✌️
FLAW PEACOCK!!! I've binged all the other videos and can't get over the quality and style you put into all your videos, THANK YOU!
This video reminded me of how i’ve forgotten EVERYTHING about this game. Going to replay and then come back. Thanks man!
33:20 we did learn hannah's name right here though. eve mentioned it when she was talking about how they had to look the same and have the same bruises
Yea it was funny having Flaw be like "let's call her Sister H" and then at one point actually referring to her as Hannah before he does the "big reveal"
gonna assume that he filmed different bits in different times just to keep one train of thought after the other. that's how i would do it, and it would also explain why he had that error
@@MackieLarsyeah his video is such an time extensive task and this channel being an one man show, errors are bounds to happens. It adds to the authenticness of it tho
This makes me want to see an in-depth floppy breakdown about Martha is Dead. Another funky Twin mystery, but has a LOT more going on within it than meets the eye. It's extremely dark, but is a great game. The true twist of that story makes me think of this one, and that it's likely the same thing happening here. I won't spoil Martha is Dead, only because more people should play that game.
Hey floppy weird comment here but not to get floppy with it myself, I just got power back after a nonstop hell of being unprepared for the hurricane that just hit our area and went through 3 and a half days of hell fighting for supplies, gas, and helping out family also in need with a infant and no power themselves. And logging on and being surprised to see Her story is literally the thing I needed to see to bring me back down from the anxiety high i've been forced on. I saw her story back during yogscast kim semi playthrough on her channel back in 2015 when I was still in highschool and seeing you finish the story that she started almost a decade before really just gave me back my humanity. Thank you.
Hello!! System here!! Recent fan of your channel as your videos are great to listen to while I do college work. I really appreciate you talking about things in a sensitive manner when it comes to DID, we can tell you've genuinely put effort into understanding it. I'm currently at 2:29:30 of the video, so if you address this later I apologise. Regardless, if we take Hannah as the host, but suddenly her disappearing with Eve becoming the main alter who presents herself, that's not super far-fetched. A host, or any alter, may go dormant after a severely traumatic event (such as a murder), meaning that another alter may have to pick up the slack. Just thought you'd find that interesting lmao. I do subscribe to twin theory more but yk, the more you know ✨
Perhaps the part of the song about the body being used to make a fiddle is a reference to the phrase “played them like a fiddle” which would fit with all the lying?
Also, to be "On the Fiddle" is be working on a confidence trick, but that's an old, very British term.
Maybe I'm getting Flawpea with it.
My second time going around to watch this and I wanna say I really appreciate you kinda acting as the detectives and asking the questions in the interviews because it makes it so much easier to follow along
I have a theory about the ending. I think you play as Eve's daughter and her mother, Eve, is in jail because she chose to take the fall for her twin sister and is in jail. Eve most likely let her sister, Hannah, take the wig (which is missing) and take her place as a 'ghost in the machine', although if she ever got fingerprinted it would be a problem as her fingerprints would be recognized. Her daughter is working to understand why her mother is in jail. I think the police would have no choice but to arrest Eve as Hannah is 'missing' and unless the police could get a hold of both sisters, they wouldn't be able to prove the twin theory. That's all I got.
I actually tried to google the laws for the UK on sentencing pregnant women and I couldn't find anything. I didn't too look too long but I can only *assume* that if eve did end up getting sentenced, she most likely didn't have a baby in jail or go to jail(for very long if at all). Looking into more information for the UK laws at the time of or before 1994 would maybe add more context to the ending too.
I'm so happy the algorithm showed me your video-it's such a thorough analysis of the game and very entertaining
The attic is a metaphore - it means brain. Our brain is located "upstairs", right under "the roof" of our body. Hannah opened the door hid Eve in the attic = she welcomed her other personality with open arms. A little introverted, shy girl living in the world of fairytales was happy to have a companion. The police and parents never looking into the attic = they never found out about Eve. But at some point cracks started to show more and more - Eve was pulling all the boys, they prefered her to Hannah. One day they met Simon who was more interested in Hannah though. That's why she didn't want to share anymore, as finally she was the one being prefered. Eve didn't like it. Hannah became pregnant, moved out and started living her own life. Eve saying "I was still living in the attic" means she didn't disappear. Simply became "caged" by Hannah and almost forgotten, as she enjoyed her new life. Eve would still take control from time to time though. Started sleeping around either to damage Hannah's reputation (if Simon finds out, he'll divorce her and this will make Hannah weaker, easier to be manipulated by Eve) or even wanted to make Hannah lose her baby (notice how happy she is about it - the whole "universe corrected itself" nonsense). Then, Eve poisoned their parents, so Hannah becomes even weaker and moves back to her family house. The house where Hannah and Eve had their best years. This kicks in nostalgia and makes Hannah even more vulnerable. Eve saying "Hannah didn't want the attic to be redecorated" or something like that = she rejected the option of therapy and meds after the big trauma (probably offered by Simon) as she was scared, the psychologists and psychiatrists would find out Eve existed.
2:37:40 god dang it this scared me more than it shouldve lmao, you added this same sound effect on the "whos lila" retrospective and i keep falling for it
FINALLY A NEW EPISODE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR FLAWED PEACOCK
*flaw
@@FrankFurther Check again
i'm playing immortality right now and it's making me go absolutely insane (in a good way lol). the first time i found The Thing sent me right into a nose dive of scanning through all the scenes i had found thus far and i still can't get enough of that feeling. i would LOVE to see you sink your teeth into it at some point!!!
The Thing was practically a drug for me, like I sometimes wonder if I'm ever going to feel quite like that playing a video game ever again. Heady stuff.
@@Nassifeh I felt the same way! it was unnerving at first but I've grown so fond of it. finding it again and again is such a special feeling. absolutely incredible stuff
I just finished the video and I have to say I very much enjoyed your System Theory. I played Her Story upon it's release since I heard a lot of good things about it and it being a detective style game it's right up my alley. But I was let down by it. The mystery didn't grab me and the secret twin narrative was too absurd for me to really buy into. Your System Theory and the evidence you put forward, even if it is as you said not likely, does add another layer to the game and makes me appreciate it more now than my own initial playthrough.
There's one minor throughline that you appear to have missed: Hannah's wedding ring. Hannah almost never fusses with it, likely because she's just used to wearing it all the time. But when we see Eve with the ring, even during Interview 1, she fidgets with her hands quite a bit- most prominently fiddling with the ring. Now, I think you could argue for this making sense in either of the two main theories being posited here, but the real clincher for me is the final interview. Eve very specifically does not have the ring anymore, and though she does still fidget with her hands quite a bit, it's not until near the very end- where she recalls The Birthday Incident- that we can see her rubbing at where the ring WOULD be. If we follow the logic that she intended to maintain the charade as seen through the lie detector test and your stated implications, why would she no longer be wearing the ring? Personally, I think it's a sign that Hannah took off with what few things were important to her, and Eve is staying behind to distract, just like with the Glasgow alibi (even though she realizes the writing might be on the wall for the whole scheme.)
I can't believe you're actually covering this game. I think it genuinely changed my brain chemistry when I played it the first time, so excited to see your experience with it now!
I'm barely into this vid but I have to say how excited I am as a total newcomer to this channel. I was OBSESSED with this game when it came out and someone going through it and drawing it all on a board just gives me so much satisfaction. You may get into this, but the interesting thing I found about this game was that because you can experience the story in totally different orders, I think that influences people into having different interpretations of it.
Love this game, such a great fit for this channel. And I popped off when you said you were working up to Immortality, I cannot wait to see you examining it once you get there :)
actually put this video to the side to check the game out for myself (currently on sale) and played it. Sadly i wasn't able to 100% it, but definitely enjoyed my time with it, now it's time to enjoy this video, thank you mr. Peacock ( also I am very glad that I wasn't the only one to theorize a did system being implemented.)
Sometimes i just wanna see an uncut version of how Flawpea rants and goes off script into the camera cuz good lord i could watch this man ramble for days
HELL YEAH I brought up Immortality in a comment and you replied it was on your list to look into so I'm really happy to see you dropping a video on it's predecessor. As much as I'd love it all the same if you did a behemoth on a talked-about-to-death game like Signalis, I LOVE how much obscure shit you cover. I never would have heard about some really cool games I now love beyond reason thanks to you and now you're diving into something that was already a favorite of mine but underdiscussed. Or at least I Imagine you will be (haven't watched yet, if you mention it), because Her Story didn't do it for me but Immortality shook my soul the first time.
I'm pretty sure Signalis was mentioned directly in one of his videos as a project in the pipeline. Don't quote me on that though, I have a garbage memory. Like you said, that game has a LOT going on, so if I'm correct I'm going to assume it's going to take a bit to put a video together.
As a Scottish person who loves Limmys Show its so fucking awesome that you do too. Glad Scottish comedy had travelled across the pond! Another banger Mr Peacock, you really are incredible at what you do!
Just drahp it!
I JUST finished watching your video on Who’s Lila!
I will be watching on and off throughout work 😊
Edit: I finally finished this and you are legitimately one of the best content creators on this platform. How do you not have over a million subscribers?!