Permanent Triangulation By The Narcissist
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You will be triangulated far more than you realise by the narcissist.
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I felt someone was around because he was always snapping at me and seeming distant.
My gut was telling me something isn’t right.
I didn’t need proof, I walked and haven’t looked back - so I didn’t give him the chance to triangulate me whilst laughing behind my back.
I dumped him via text. He can go to hell after all the abuse.
Freedom! No more feeling insecure.
Does break-up with a text message make you any superior than him, Rosemarie? Just asking, think of what you've done.
If you're defending the idea of decency, I think you should've let him know that you want things to break off. I know his response will be rude and destructive, he may shout at you or try to devaluate, but you'll be in a relief that you've done the right thing.
Acting desperate like him will only make us all desperate, I personally think it wasn't a right way to break up tho.
Think of it, Rosemarie. Really, really think of it.
@@VlogField - she really doesn't need your approval.
You're gorgeous , I'm happy u walk away.
Queen
Get what u deserve.
@@VlogField did you think you were actually saying something? Think all you want about Rosie's situation you still won't know anything about it. You sound funny as hell though.
The narcissists are never satisfied with one person. There always have to be others.
Or 'work' hobby's, etc etc
@@annekerotterdam7499 yes. My B is obsessed with work!! It's his LIFE, and always has been. although some time ago he tried a triangulation with his girl from work, he's a manager. It messed me up!!!
HG don't let this go to your head but your work is saving lives.
That’s true this video is so true thanks HG
It won’t unless you say it on all his videos. Your fuel isn’t potent because he doesn’t know you.
Agreed 😁 . HG scares Me to so we should all tell him this ?. I like giving feed back & sometimes I get carried away & he's like the Best Ever . Voice logic & so much more . Can't forget to mention that Instincts of a leopard . I feel like a kitten with Claws larger than his head 😀. Awesome words he says 😎
He already knows.
Hes going to stop one day and give us all trauma bond as he grins and shuts his laptop
A whole world of deceptions, lies, triangulations, mistreatments, manipulations, and mind games... Thx God I've got out from his sick world, and gain my sanity, my self, my happiness, my freedom, my peace of mind, and my life... Thx HG for your videos 💖
Yep me too !!
Exact. And once you know run. Never ever look back.
They're overgrown bad kids trapped in a dysfunctional adult persona. SUPER turn off. Who's going to compete after you already won your own unique right to relate? The mind bending nerve of these repulsive phonies.
Well said
I instinctively knew this in my gut, right after the bronze period ended.
I always knew, but never had proof. Red flags waving everywhere.
The phone was always face down and on silent.
Same behaviour with the phone.
I dated a guy who was narcissistic. He never cheated, but he inadvertently told me that marriage wasn't even on the horizon. And also hinted to talking about our private life to his friends. Mind you, these are friends I've either not met or people who were his acquaintance but weren't my friends, and I was always the last to know his thoughts. It felt like a whole group of strangers were in the relationship.
That's weird and creepy
I can relate
Until now, I thought I had the Monopoly on this. Our private life is anything but private. Worst yet, for the most part, these are people that neither of us have met. It feels like a violation as we are engaged. However, I am on the cusp of walking away after 5 yrs of this madness.
This is so crazy accurate for narcissists. They tell everyone they know about you and the relationship, and there you are thinking they respect the relationship as much as you were, meanwhile you are the last to know and complete strangers know a fabricated story about you. Crazy
HG, I HAVE MANY PEOPLE SAY TO ME HE/SHE OR MY NARCISSIST NEVER CHEATED ON ME. MY RESPONSE YOU JUST HAVEN'T CAUGHT THEM. THEY ALWAYS CHEAT. THEY CAN NEVER HAVE JUST ONE. ALWAYS LIVING DOUBLE LIVES. GREAT VIDEO
What double?? Triple!! Quadruple!!! ETC 😬😬
@@naughtynice5941 Yes, this is true.
@@Paula-oo1ko not all narcs cheat. Even HG says this. Unless you mean not only other women or men but they cheat at other things in life. !?
I agree.
Never felt i had him to my self
Didnt care really
He met a need he blew it
His last APPLIANCE put him in prison
Thank you! Once again you have explained behaviour I experienced but could never understand. Done by a middle mid range type A they are always putting others ahead of the relationship, and because they are “so kind” we are left feeling like the shit - how awful we are to not want to help out. Yet if we were to ask for their assistance and time they can’t be bothered, and how dare we place any burden on them for anything. Like you say absolute “horse shit”!!!!
I experienced this same thing. Same type. If not for this information from HG and seeing the kindred people like you reinforcing that I’m not imagining it, it’d have been much worse. Finally feeling better. Your explanation is spot on.
Same here. Same type. I think it’s the most dangerous type, because it’s difficult to identify. And all my friends still don’t get why I divorced such a cute and generous guy. He was generous to everyone except me. Gaslighting + I did my best for you + I just wanted to help, etc. He never did anything for me, which I asked directly. Only things, which he “thought” is good for me. But this type is very difficult to distinguish, especially during love bombing stage.
At around 5:40 it's creepy accurate. It's so crazy how someone can say the exact same things to you that they are also saying to another person. I'm a huge music and movie buff, after I walked away I even found out conversations we had about music, songs, even films he was also having EXACT duplicate conversations with the other person, even saying MY favorite films/songs were HIS favorite films/songs to the other person. I thought that was eerily creepy, it's like he had no real personality or knew who he really was. I honestly didn't know people like this existed til this experience, I'm grateful it didn't go long term and I walked away. I wish anyone the best who comes across someone like this, run like hell! Great video.
I always wondered why her text to me took to long....she wrote the same text to multiple “hopefuls”
lol
Yes, then narcissist waiting for which one will respond 1st.
Omigosh, the narcissist I knew did the same thing. He got so sloppy towards the end that he mistakenly texted me a conversation he had with the other person. That's how I found out not only was he a liar and narcissist but he also lied about who he even was, what he did for work, etc. I think about it now and laugh.
Very true all of it ....HG knows his onions
lol
Remember he's a narcissists...listen to how he tries to make a narc sound like something or someone special when in reality most are std spreading couch jumping liars
That very same text message being sent to several people .. yeah my ex narc did that and unlucky for him I saw them all!
@@thegameoflife2387 i always felt that his messages were generic...
This is the truth my relationship was to crowded
Sadly going through this as we speak ... Week after he left he was with someone else and telling people I'm the 1 talking to someone else .. 9yrs wasted on someone that ever cared not loved me .. It's a hard pill to swallow
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If he ever contacts you saying that leaving you was the biggest mistake I ever made...please say...I know but thanks anyway. 💕
i had a 30 yr history with mine...its hard, i am healing everyday!
Took me 25 years to figure it out.
I’m glad he’s gone!
Wishing he would have just stayed out of my life, makes me almost sick to my stomach a 30 yr friendship is over, last person I thought would hurt me like that- slowly picking up the pieces
I put all my passion into kissing. Unfortunately I’ve never been kissed back that way. They probably were thinking of some porn star with their eyes closed. I don’t miss having to deal with porn addicts.
lol
My ex narc is addicted to dominatrix on Instagram and I always thought I had nothing to worry about because those people are “online.” (that’s before I understood what narcissism is.) Well guess what? He discarded me for one of those Instagram dominatrix and moved into her house last month! Not to mention she is still married...
When my exes watched porn on the side it felt like they were cheating.
My ex was all over porn sites. Live web cam girls.
Flirt date sites.
He makes me sick.
You'll be triangulated with their friends, your friends, their family and coworkers. Don't think it's only with other IPPS candidates and predecessors.
My ex midrange smeared me to his secondary sources for years. "Look what he has to put up with!"
Divide and conquer.
@@thegameoflife2387 They are fluid them self - all is fluid - no valius because they have no self in them - they are empty shells - no moral code
- they are like a bad animation of a human - a alien who tray to apear as a human - lack of empsthy - thervore they can't geth the simulation right -
- F ... 👽💩🤡🥶🤮 -
I feel sick to my stomach hearing this.
Yeah I wasn’t ready
I feel u being sick I'm there now and I'm straight disgusted about it
He reduced my beautiful, bright, kind, but NAIVE loving persona into "Supply". All your saying happened within 21 months of our marriage. Marriage over, but would like to say to him, "Thank you for teaching me a most dreadful lesson that I can now tell others about, in hindsight, that they are not crazy, jealous, insecure, boring, a turn off, etc. I am on a mission to bring your kind to an end."
When we were online chatting, he would frequently disappear for several minutes at a time, sometimes 10 or more. There was always an excuse - he was in the bathroom, the neighbour came round, the dog was barking…. I thought it odd at the time. He obviously had something else going on!
He would tell me you are the “Chosen One” I would say “Oh Goodie” in a sarcastic way, because at that time I realized I was dealing with a loon aka “A Narcissist”. However I had no clue at that time what a Narcissist was. 😔 GO SO....Thank You HG.
Most humiliating experience of my life. Moved 1000 miles to find out she was married. Then triangulation. Was a scapegoat for a marriage.
The next time someone tells me I’m the one, I’m running the other direction, quickly and without looking back
Changing my number, moving, and getting a body guard lol
abandons me to play house .Everyone else comes first. Ipps shelved forever. I feel so gullible. It was only ever a bronze period anyway. I can smile myself to sleep due to HG's glorious dulcet tones.
I found out from my exnarc's exwife (2nd) that when he started seeing me, he was still seeing her and two other women. I was also triangulated between his batshit crazy family.
Very similar to my shituationship.
Brilliant as usual. Glad you put this out there so we can finally know that it's real and not a figment of our imagination.
Omg, I get tired just listening to this🙄Imagine that being your life...jeeeez
No rest for the wicked.
@@Suzy585 Nope they have to absolutely LOVE THEIR NARCISSISM ,the amount of energy it takes to keep this mess going on proves that..I don't feel sorry for them anymore.This was usually what realed me back in...Never again..
In retrospect, I once got put into a group text on FB messenger with 2 other prospects. When I responded, the requisite MMR type A scurried to dissolve the accidentally created group. Obviously he thought he was sending the same link to the three of us individually. 🙀some excuse was issued about how we all shared an interest in the topic of the article.
😱 copy paste also!
Your teaching us how to put the rubbish out.They need to go.
A video on parental triangulation would be fine. Most common: triangulation of children with each other by a narcissist parent, going on even in adulthood.
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I thank God I am not a jealous person and I don't compete because I have been attracting narcissists all my life and I have experienced this.
My ex was obsessed with his ex and may aswel have had her in the bed with us. Such drama 🙄 he wanted me to feel rubbish about her!
I disagree w/ one small point you made. I consider ANY contact that my husband has with others (that I am not aware of), to be cheating. If you can't disclose it to your wife, it's not good.
gross games games games
story of my life ! the triangle - him, his xbox and then, me.
Stranger in a Strange Land - fantastic book. I used to read a lot of Heinlein, but I only remember a couple of them fairly well.
You are literally saving my life. I have just landed the job of my dreams and at the same time I am coming out of withdrawal from the abusive ex relationship and your videos have changed the course of my life because if I succumbed to the hoover after I ended it, I could have kissed goodbye to this job opportunity. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
oh hell to the NO-NO , then I GOSO. He tried this with me it did not work ; it backfired. I was replaced quickly by her tho. shrugs
Fate Twisted - Better her than you!
This is so real as to my experience with my ex narcissist boyfriend. I'm very blessed I made it out thank you God 😊
Just finished ‘Seduction’ from The Disorder Series. Really enjoyed it. Moving on to book 2. Great illustration of how triangulation would work in practice.
Do you recommend this particular one? Why?
I recommend it if you want to sit back and read a novel. The tale features two main characters and the interaction between these two illustrates the various manipulations employed by the narcissist. It’s a story, rather than an explanation or analysis. The advantage is that the reader can see red flags, manipulations as they start to appear and are then built upon by the narcissist. The reactions of the non narcissist are realistic also, I could sympathise with the responses and reactions. An easy read but educational.
Thank you, H G., always precise, always accurate.
she confessed to cheating twice if I remember... posing the confession as a question (which I noticed later would be the case on a bunch of confessions)... she then became enraged that I told her I was so uninterested at this point after trying to breakup multiple times
.. I was just waiting for her to break it off... told her they were better than me 😂... yes cause I'm not bowing down like them... please go... since it was obvious that's what she was aiming for
Too much ....... I must take a break. HG, you are incredible, I've analysed the interaction of my Narc with me, it's all accurate . But today I'm overwhelmed . Sometimes I want to be a Narc, it's easier😢
As always Magnificent 🔥 HG
Could you please make a video about triangulation in a restaurant?
When the narcissist and their primary supply and a third person are at a restaurant together.
Indeed it happened to me.Also we were at the same table.Gross😵💫😵💫🙈
In the midst of this with a narc I didn't even have a relationship with, which just makes him sound screamingly mad
Wow. Thank u for explaining this. I didnt get it when he did that to me. So many women...I finally walked away 2 years ago...No Contact...
So romantic
Not only that promise of being the only one, but done in such eloquence and such abundance that those of us who have been hurt by your kind in the past actually believe it again. You people are truly evil.
I suspect my own father triangulated me with my malignant narc mother. And because by comparison he looks much much better than her I never suspect him of that. I think he kept himself safe from her because I was hers primary target while he laid back and pretended that could not do anything! And on other hand he got fuel from me and from her. I thought I was the center of his universe and he was mine. But actually I believe this was trap! Actually they both share me as the third adult in their relationship. I aways fought with her because I believe I have outsource my defense mechanisms to him, believing he will save me! And on the other hand he persuaded me that I am saving him. Very insidious!
Yes, triangulation is a desperate attempt to gain attention, quietly competing with empaths without letting them even know,
Such a needy creature narcs are, especially on the female end,
But look at their audacity and hypocrisy that they despise needy empaths just like themselves, but are ok for being needy with themselves towards others,
Karma is on it's way as always, no one can run from old age and no supplies can last permanently and rest assure in life there are no guarantees for anything can happen tomorrow.
This was exactly my life for 6 months
This is excellent HG, TY again
I was being triangulated while I was involved with the ex. I didn't understand what was going on and I thought it was so weird and unusual how it went down. Looking back now, I want to tell this individual since they brought their ex into our relationship, that it would have been better to invite them along so we could have enjoyed it all more together. LOL. If I knew the other individual I wish I could have paid them to breakup with the NARC while I was nearby so we could team up on the NARC, lol but I know that was all a bad call it would have been funny.
While I was heavily triangulated during the golden phase, it was after things ended that it all kicked up a gear. I was carved into pieces, each piece having its own name (I refer to them as her imaginary friends), and triangulated against any and everyone.
I was double triangulated against the next guy as me (apparent "crazy ex"), and under another name (the "perfect one guy" who had too much going on to commit right then). I was triangulated against her friends in various ways under various names (including the "perfect guy", the "crazy ex", and others. Her friends figured it out, and cross referenced details with me, which is how I know). Against her family under my real name (but less "crazy ex"), and against her workmates.
I know this continued months after I last spoke to her (that's when her friends walked away from her). Almost everything she said related directly to me, but was obscured by imaginary friends (only being "me" when she wanted to slur me). It's probably toned down a lot over time, but I bet she still talks about me under these various names on occasion (years later).
It's quite a thing to experience: knowing you're the only person being talked about by an ex, usually in an extremely positive way, yet slandered under your real name, months after things ended. While being kinda stalked throughout, and having the next guy thrown in your face (I changed my habits to stop this).
HG. You have no idea how much I am enjoying your videos... from your contents to your perfect pronunciations.
Question: Why doesn’t your kind just come out and be honest in the beginning and declare that you are polyamorous? Why must your open relationships be practiced unethically?
Within the triangulation of the honey moon period, I have a new trick, I've stated I don't want to be with you,and they try.
My trick is this simple.
Give me the radice of the torus ring (4π(E/h)2.
If they can't answer I'm not going to talk with them.
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H.G.Tudor, you tought this humbled man well.🧑🏫🧑🏫
Thankyou
Truth is no one not even the so called victim is totally true or "all in" with the imp narc...
It didn't take him long to get his new source after a 4 year relationship. Going through this now.
Mine told his friend that he cheats to hurt me and he has a weakness to resist affairs with women and that women also cling on him, HG which school his he
Please do a video on what triangulation looks like in friendships where one, two, or all three prongs are narcissistic.
So if they from the start says they dont want a relationship with you but wont say what they want until you really put them against the wall? (They have ALL the signs of covert-malignant narcissism)
TRUTH! Don't kiss a tapeworm! Why have access to one set of washer and dryer when you can play with many sets in the laundromat!
Interesting HG and correct ✅ as always. My ( now ex) was on first date talking about his ex wife ( she fled the country, was originally from Denmark and left without a warning) and talked extensively about her lunacy, maddens and calculating personality. However, I didn’t understand why he talks about her so much? I went for first date with him and didn’t know him, and he keeps telling about his ex wife, which happened about 20 years ago? I was going through my separation with my husband but I didn’t have the need to keep talking about him, because I didn’t really know him, so I just said in my case just didn’t work out.
However, when I became the IPPS and entered devaluation, then his ex wife became painted white and I was black! Now HG, thanks to you, that is a red flag! 🚩
Also, my ex seems to have taste for ladies who came from foreign countries and they family members living overseas. I think that in his subconscious mind that half job is done, now he needs to isolate only the other half- (friends) and make for them harder to escape. I’m originally from the Czech Republic but living in Australia for, bit over 20 years now.
HD how do you do it You always give me the perfect answers. This just helps me so much knowing how many people are always being triangulated at all times. My soon-to-be-x narcissist is talking to my best friend from high school. She keeps reaching out to me so I knew something was going on. They don't know I know. So I'm just pretending I don't know, and I'm not talking to her. She will be very surprised when she gets close enough to see what the truth. I'm not warning her. I hate her now, we'll never be her friend again. She deserves this. And I know he is doing this to me just to hurt me, that's a narc for you. Soon she will be the scapegoat that everyone hates, as soon as everyone knows about her. My children know her, and will hear her. My family know her and will hear her. She gets to be the scapegoat now. Any advice? On how I react to her? Right now I haven't replied and have blocked her phone number. I'm not letting them know that I know because I want to be able to act like the saddest victim in the world when this comes out. But would appreciate any advice from you.
After I read the text he got from a family member called me names and told me he didn’t want to live with me and our marriage was over and was accusing me of cheating it was like a semi truck had hit me I cried all that night the following day I told him I’m leaving uuu Christmas Eve I hit the road and I’m never ever going back even though we were married over fourty years I was 15and we had six children together I send him the song hit the road jack I hope and pray I see them holding hands one day when that will be I don’t know she’s married and her husband is on his death bed shame on them cheaters and liers👿🤥🤮💯
Amazing!!!!
He never discussed his EXs , I never caught him cheating .. but I didn’t find out about his whorish ways until he went to prison .. he even lied about his 3 baby mamas!! My mom has been with her husband AND boyfriend for 30 years!! I had to cut her loose as well
Wow that was crazy! 💯
I wished I knew about this before I got hooked in... i was forever saying I don't want to be in a relationship with you and your friend . when I challenged I was being controlling and jealous. I eventually told her she had to choose and she chose the new supply... I am sorry to say I got petty and messaged the new supplies wife to warn her... my ex went nuts ... blocked her and moved on but listening to this does explain why the abuse happens
Hi Mr Tudor. I can't find the videos of the boomerang type narc. The one that describes the narc that had the ipps and the ipss where the narc switches them back and forth. I need to re view this again. Thanks for your help
Thank you🌸
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Kan je lichamelijke klachten krijgen? , door een narcist of een cluster b persoon., in je omgeving , intieme partner of familie ?
Yes 2 others on going
Yes kisses out of this world
Omg
In the end well his manipulation
Led him out of hs sobriety into violence & prison ?? Ageing
Im sure he may get out
Tho its been 6months
Ha ha 1940 message
Dear me HG
AUSTRALIA FEELS BETTER
I gotta grab some Tylenol pms, a glass or two of wine... N some Sativa when I pop in for my daily verbal lashings... I laugh.. I cry... I get mad... N laugh because im the super empath narc n really enjoy warranted torture where i see fit. So i come on tryna hear about my narcs of past n end up with the STONEFACE because I'm the damn narc... Never first tho... Its like I am a narc karma bringer. N I'm not petty.. Very calculated n love holding onto incriminating evidence... N wont say a word.. N will act clueless n let the narc think they getting what they want until i confuse the fk outa them when my shit start NOT adding up.. N tirelessly inconsistent. One horrible thing I noticed years ago that there has never been a date that i didn't make wait on me... N im not talking ten minutes... Im talking two hours when i already knew to be resdy b4 hand... Nope.. I think I be a lot ready to call or text n cancel n be tryna wait so long that im not resdy on purpose.. I would often be called on it because I literally always did it. The Triangulation is the worst n Ive had the type of narcs who use the family in a provocative way to create the jealousy n you see how good they are at it... Knowing they been running that game. Im talking about them way to weirdly close siblings... U know spooning each other or something with they cousin n they grown grown... N some will even triangulate you with a child... That one ummm ummm no good. I have my suspensions n kids get cocky when they think they are one upping someone n got a narc who plays or worse PREYS on that & also uses it to get u sickened n worried... But I've witnessed it in all forms 😑
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gross
Wow... just when you think the world is getting better.
So how does the narcissist respond or react when you play the same game on them and the triangulation they are doing is dealt back? Seemingly as if you were to just push them to the back burner the same way they just did you better yet do it to them first? With so many differences in the topic from multiple sources on RUclips and trying to grasp the reasoning I’m just not finding specifics to the questions I need answers. So who would be a good coach to guide me through and help in understanding what I’m encountering so a counterattack or defense has full effect? Thanks for any help! I knew I should’ve studied psychology... The mind of one separate from another yet display identical traits astounds me!! I gotta learn more!! Gotta be able to have a great defense and shut it down like a fighter uses muscle memory!!
Ask yourself why you even want to know? Just leave
@@annrice2405 seems like an adequate response to life issues for you but not for me. I’d rather gain useful knowledge instead of running from my problems. Thx
It will be viewed as narcissistic injury, and a pretty bad one. There will be hot or cold fury. He made a video about cheating on a narcissist, which triangulation would be viewed as, so watch that one.
This isn’t relevant to this particular video, but do you have anything on why they leave their belongings at your home after they’ve discarded you? He literally has two suitcases here of clothes that he hasn’t came back for.
The narcissist leaves belongings at your home so that he has an excuse to come back at a later date and hoover you. It is also done as a form of ever presence and this will elevate your Emotional Thinking. His shirts still hanging in the wardrobe, his jacket by the door etc.
Have someone you trust contact him to arrange delivery of his belongings. Instruct them not to speak about you at all, just deliver the belongings and leave.
They purposely leave something so they have a reason to come back.
@Jenny M You could do that. The concern for me there is again, it’s another reason for the narcissist to come calling at a later stage, innocently swinging by to collect belongings or demanding reasons why belongings were thrown out etc. Send them back via a trusted friend and there is no comeback, all avenues closed and no personal interaction required.
Jennifer, my response above is not entirely accurate, although the later outcome likely would be similar. Today’s video ‘Why the Narcissist Leaves Property With You’ provides the correct answer to your question. Apologies for the mistake!
@@narcsitereader3844 bag that shit up and leave on his front door in the middle of the night when he’s sleep that’s what I did and when he would come back I wouldn’t let him leave nothing he pissed him off and he said stop bringing my stuff back I’ll get it when I’m ready I’m like naw. Slowly but surely he’s getting weeded out and I’m just about there. With some it’s easy to leave be done for me it’s been a process fading him out my life slowly once I got educated on narcs. This was my first and my last 🙄
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This guy's voice is nightmarish.
ewww and who is using condoms, I dont triangulate, mistress, or side chick ..now, I might do a booty call lol
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Hahahahahaha comedy :D
I bet you dont really have an English accent