i started playing lash a couple days ago and i’ve been waiting for this lol. lash itemization is so complicated; there are so many different items but i feel like some of the builds take so long to get online and don’t scale into lategame that well. this video came out at the perfect time for me lol
Thanks for the guide. I've noticed a trend in most guides from most creators that they focus only on itemization and almost never show combos, skill interactions etc. wish there was more of that especially for more complicated heroes like this
Awesome guide, as someone who has a decent grasp on a few of the heros it's great to see how to properly play as such a high mobility slippery bursty hero. Cheers.
Don't play Lash, don't plan on it, but man I love to watch your videos just for the information density. I also think it definitely helps to understand the enemy hero to better counter them - so I take all the hero guides I can get :)
I tried out the gun build twice. First time, was ahead and absolutely melted everybody. Second game, got behind and felt incredibly useless. Really fun build I want to mess around with more though. You should make more content on it!
Thank you for this. I am mostly watching so I can do better against him in lane. 110 hours and somehow I only laned against him for the first time yesterday. His whip is extremely obnoxious in laning.
One useful fact with Lash's Ultimate/4 is that while it has rather short/small Horizontal Range, its Verticle range is unlimited, so one of the best way to use it is to start casting above the targets
super nice guide for lash, just what i was looking for! also thanks for explaining the usages of the skills and how they work/don't work, as i sometimes wonder why my ult cone is facing down, but i can't grab anyone in the gray area ..
Some feedback for future guides. Could you clarify what the focus is for heroes? Should i focus farm? Should i rush to every team fight as lash? Should you split push as lash at all? What should you do when your behind and dying alot? The guide is good but feels like its only the start of a guide. Maybe an advanced guide?
If you're looking for burst in lane, immediate charged melee should be guaranteed after landing ground strike after the second upgrade, however, if your knockup doesn't go the absolute max height because the opponent hits their head on a ceiling, they will land back down fast enough to parry. You will see this happen sometimes when coming down on someone hiding under the center bridges in lane.
Hey great video, i was just wondering why you dont have Mystic Reach/ Improved Reach for Ultimate and Flog, also i wanna know why you dont use Leech, whenever i have 6300 Souls relatively early i just buy Leech and instantly feel like a raid boss
Lash doesn't need Leech, he already heals for a ton of health anytime he uses Flog. Reach is an option but I find I don't have the slots for it usually and don,t find it necessary :)
i've been playing gun lash since i started playing about a month ago. it's an extremely fun way to play lash, would recommend anyone give it an honest try
Awesome guide man ! I've just started playing this game, a little over 20 hours and I'm comfortable with Bebop and Lash where I have a good idea of what to do on the lane, map and in team fights. But I'm having trouble finding the 3rd hero to learn next. I like heroes that initiate and make plays, I played pos4 heroes like Earth shaker, Earth spirit, Tusk in Dota, any recommendations for similar heroes in this game?
Any reason why you don't include mystic reach or improved reach in the build? They dramatically improve the horizontal cast range of your ultimate, making it much easier to grab targets.
Yeah - I've tried it, and with my current playstyle, it hasn't felt worth the slot to me. The cast range is nice, but with superior stamina you can usually get on-top of them, rendering the extra range not that useful. If I had infinite slots I'd put it in, but I don't find it to be worth at the moment. That might change though!
@@Deathy ngl I tried a game with sup. stamina and if its one or the other for a flex slot reach is taking it every time, especially if it’s an early pickup, there’s no damage scaling and as you talked about lash is feast or famine
@@abreathofairABOA I won't fault you for going your own playstyle, but once you get used to superior stamina, it makes Lash feel WAY stronger. You have tons more control on how you engage, you can get considerable higher for ground slams, etc.
Hey man, few questions. Are you building superior cooldown, and if so, which ability do you put it on? I’ve had a lot of success with putting it on flog. Secondly, I see many builds with extra spirit -> improved spirit-> boundless spirit. The stats seem like a no brainer for lash, 300hp and a whopping 60 spirit power. You don’t build it tho, what’s your opinion on that?
Also had a question about your build, why no soul shredder bullets? Cheap, effective, just a weapon slot for roughly the value of mystic vulnur. + spirit lifesteal. Personally don't buy mystic shot coz hard to aim that first shot, so I just spray before combo someone, nearly same value damage-wise, combining them should be even stronger
Good question :) I used to buy soul shredder bullets a lot, but I find that you don't necessarily apply it before your combos, rendering it not as good. Also, you don't really need spirit lifesteal, since you have Flog. Mystic shot I always benefit from as the shots after landing my ground slam are guaranteed
@@Deathy Got it. Personally, since I found out that t2 ground slam procks reactive barrier, most of the time I upgrade it after flog t3, so no guaranteed shots for me.
How do you use Cold Front in a combo? I feel like I've seen Lash players cast it mid air (?) while falling with Ground Strike but I've never been able to get that to work. The way I use it now is basically land with GS, CF while they're knocked up but the problem with that is it doesn't let allow me to from shoot one burst of my gun while they're knocked up (which is actually kind of important if you have mystic shot up again).
@@slingman1074 That's not the point of my question. The knockup is a very small window and guaranteeing the damage from cold front is better than getting a .5 second longer slow (which fall off to a 40% slow at that point). Comboing 1 with CF would mean a ~70% slow before slow reduction (~40% with enduring speed) and a massive burst that's almost impossible to dodge if they just got ulted and hit by 1. People who have played other mobas, or fighting games understand the concept of a 'combo'. Giving people the opportunity to roll/warpstone out of range of cold front is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
@@ben5110 bro if you just time it as they hit the ground or just before it’ll land its not rocket science and u have tons of time to get like 2 bursts of weapon out while they’re in the air
Sometimes when I'm jumping in the air and I'm trying to get higher I accidentally go on the ziplines. Any ideas how to avoid it? It's annoying when I'm looking down, waiting for perfect ultimate opportunity, I jump to keep the height and I go down because Lash decides to latch onto zipline.
The biggest problem I have with Lash is the low damage in the late game, You are a killing machine all game, then suddenly your combo doesn't do much anymore.
do you think lash's aiming requirement is a high skill floor sort of deal? i am in love with deadlock but im not as good at aiming as i used to be, i want to play lash but hitting shots while im airborne is so difficult.
ruclips.net/video/WgtiJmQUEfU/видео.html Cone is just an affirmation area for a lock, ult's area of effect is a cyllinder around Lash with infinite hight and stated radius. So, for ult to grab someone you just need to be within 18m of them on horizontal axis, they can be the one flying above for all it cares.
Yeah - definitely hear you. I plan to only keep improving the content, but it is a TON more work to get gameplay footage to showcase everything I'm saying. I definitely hear you though. Thanks for the feedback =)
i think Deadlock's sandbox is such a perfect game mode to test the heroes .. there's stationary ones, moving ones, creeps and you can spawn heroes to test things and showcase abilities and how to use them. I think a gameplay example might even be harder to showcase, since there's usually more going on and here, he can focus on showing the basic ideas and what is important
@@Deathy still doesnt really make sense. The radius you can throw around you doesn’t change so that would be a sphere no? Or are you talking about like what you can grab so you have a cone of vision
Cone is just an affirmation area for a lock, ult's area of effect is a cyllinder around Lash with infinite hight and stated radius. So, for ult to grab someone you just need to be within 18m of them on horizontal axis, they can be the one flying above for all it cares.
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i started playing lash a couple days ago and i’ve been waiting for this lol. lash itemization is so complicated; there are so many different items but i feel like some of the builds take so long to get online and don’t scale into lategame that well. this video came out at the perfect time for me lol
Babe wake up, Deathy just dropped the lash guide
Oyyy I had concert last night
Thanks for the guide. I've noticed a trend in most guides from most creators that they focus only on itemization and almost never show combos, skill interactions etc. wish there was more of that especially for more complicated heroes like this
Seriously your guides are BY FAR the best ones out on YT, very clean and objective. Thank you bro
Awesome guide, as someone who has a decent grasp on a few of the heros it's great to see how to properly play as such a high mobility slippery bursty hero. Cheers.
Don't play Lash, don't plan on it, but man I love to watch your videos just for the information density.
I also think it definitely helps to understand the enemy hero to better counter them - so I take all the hero guides I can get :)
GREAT guide, thanks Deathy.
Yeah brother! been going so well with your lash build, so fun as well. Love the mobility
Sweet! I just played Lash for the first time yesterday this is going to be a great help learning the character.
Your shiv guide/item build is great.
It doesn’t even look like it should work but it does
Incredibly useful and neat! You’re the king.
Best guide i had with lash so far
I tried out the gun build twice. First time, was ahead and absolutely melted everybody. Second game, got behind and felt incredibly useless. Really fun build I want to mess around with more though. You should make more content on it!
Man it's 2am and I need to sleep. This will get watched forst thing tomorrow
You have good self control
Thank you for this. I am mostly watching so I can do better against him in lane. 110 hours and somehow I only laned against him for the first time yesterday. His whip is extremely obnoxious in laning.
One useful fact with Lash's Ultimate/4 is that while it has rather short/small Horizontal Range, its Verticle range is unlimited, so one of the best way to use it is to start casting above the targets
dude thank you so much for this tip, holy shit.
Great video !!
super nice guide for lash, just what i was looking for! also thanks for explaining the usages of the skills and how they work/don't work, as i sometimes wonder why my ult cone is facing down, but i can't grab anyone in the gray area ..
Some feedback for future guides.
Could you clarify what the focus is for heroes? Should i focus farm? Should i rush to every team fight as lash? Should you split push as lash at all? What should you do when your behind and dying alot?
The guide is good but feels like its only the start of a guide. Maybe an advanced guide?
Lash is just Lash cant wait for more lore and just Lash stuff overall
we love Lash
i heard Lash is an a$$hole..
jacob lash is an asshole
what do you think about improved spirit/boundless ?
If you're looking for burst in lane, immediate charged melee should be guaranteed after landing ground strike after the second upgrade, however, if your knockup doesn't go the absolute max height because the opponent hits their head on a ceiling, they will land back down fast enough to parry. You will see this happen sometimes when coming down on someone hiding under the center bridges in lane.
Oh that’s a good tip. I never thought to melee after slam while they’re in the air.
@@chiefinasmithi honestly think it might be better to headshot them with the knockup, especially if you have headshot booster or headhunter
For anyone reading this comment, don't buy into the hype. You can parry while CC'd by a knockup.
thank you for explaining the ulti lol nobody was, I kept ulting from out of range
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Hey great video, i was just wondering why you dont have Mystic Reach/ Improved Reach for Ultimate and Flog, also i wanna know why you dont use Leech, whenever i have 6300 Souls relatively early i just buy Leech and instantly feel like a raid boss
Lash doesn't need Leech, he already heals for a ton of health anytime he uses Flog. Reach is an option but I find I don't have the slots for it usually and don,t find it necessary :)
@@Deathy thanks for your opinion, appreciate it!
i've been playing gun lash since i started playing about a month ago. it's an extremely fun way to play lash, would recommend anyone give it an honest try
Awesome guide man ! I've just started playing this game, a little over 20 hours and I'm comfortable with Bebop and Lash where I have a good idea of what to do on the lane, map and in team fights. But I'm having trouble finding the 3rd hero to learn next. I like heroes that initiate and make plays, I played pos4 heroes like Earth shaker, Earth spirit, Tusk in Dota, any recommendations for similar heroes in this game?
Viscous would probably be right up your alley! He's like a mix of earth spirit, winter wyvern and pango. Thanks for watching!
Lash is the one hero I kinda have down but yeah I am stll not used to ulting from above, I'll always try to use it from a distance
Any reason why you don't include mystic reach or improved reach in the build? They dramatically improve the horizontal cast range of your ultimate, making it much easier to grab targets.
It also grants more scaling per meter for 1!
Yeah - I've tried it, and with my current playstyle, it hasn't felt worth the slot to me. The cast range is nice, but with superior stamina you can usually get on-top of them, rendering the extra range not that useful. If I had infinite slots I'd put it in, but I don't find it to be worth at the moment. That might change though!
@@Deathy ngl I tried a game with sup. stamina and if its one or the other for a flex slot reach is taking it every time, especially if it’s an early pickup, there’s no damage scaling and as you talked about lash is feast or famine
@@abreathofairABOA I won't fault you for going your own playstyle, but once you get used to superior stamina, it makes Lash feel WAY stronger. You have tons more control on how you engage, you can get considerable higher for ground slams, etc.
@deathy how comfortable are you with this guide being good to current date? I just started playing Lash so I'm looking for some inspiration :)
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Hey man, few questions. Are you building superior cooldown, and if so, which ability do you put it on? I’ve had a lot of success with putting it on flog.
Secondly, I see many builds with extra spirit -> improved spirit-> boundless spirit. The stats seem like a no brainer for lash, 300hp and a whopping 60 spirit power. You don’t build it tho, what’s your opinion on that?
Also had a question about your build, why no soul shredder bullets? Cheap, effective, just a weapon slot for roughly the value of mystic vulnur. + spirit lifesteal.
Personally don't buy mystic shot coz hard to aim that first shot, so I just spray before combo someone, nearly same value damage-wise, combining them should be even stronger
Good question :) I used to buy soul shredder bullets a lot, but I find that you don't necessarily apply it before your combos, rendering it not as good. Also, you don't really need spirit lifesteal, since you have Flog. Mystic shot I always benefit from as the shots after landing my ground slam are guaranteed
@@Deathy Got it. Personally, since I found out that t2 ground slam procks reactive barrier, most of the time I upgrade it after flog t3, so no guaranteed shots for me.
@Deathy how come you don't build improved reach?
Doesn't Spirit Lifesteal give almost the same amount of icnreased healing as healing booster but also lets you lifesteal off your other abilities?
How do you use Cold Front in a combo? I feel like I've seen Lash players cast it mid air (?) while falling with Ground Strike but I've never been able to get that to work. The way I use it now is basically land with GS, CF while they're knocked up but the problem with that is it doesn't let allow me to from shoot one burst of my gun while they're knocked up (which is actually kind of important if you have mystic shot up again).
you get less total slow time if they’re in the air, you want to use it ideally the moment they regain control of their character
@@slingman1074 That's not the point of my question. The knockup is a very small window and guaranteeing the damage from cold front is better than getting a .5 second longer slow (which fall off to a 40% slow at that point). Comboing 1 with CF would mean a ~70% slow before slow reduction (~40% with enduring speed) and a massive burst that's almost impossible to dodge if they just got ulted and hit by 1.
People who have played other mobas, or fighting games understand the concept of a 'combo'. Giving people the opportunity to roll/warpstone out of range of cold front is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
@@ben5110 bro if you just time it as they hit the ground or just before it’ll land its not rocket science and u have tons of time to get like 2 bursts of weapon out while they’re in the air
Need an update to this.
Sometimes when I'm jumping in the air and I'm trying to get higher I accidentally go on the ziplines. Any ideas how to avoid it? It's annoying when I'm looking down, waiting for perfect ultimate opportunity, I jump to keep the height and I go down because Lash decides to latch onto zipline.
5:14 I think you forgot to link the videos in the description
Its very true what you say about how lash falls off late game
The biggest problem I have with Lash is the low damage in the late game,
You are a killing machine all game, then suddenly your combo doesn't do much anymore.
You didn't talk about Mystic Reverb, i never know what abilities trigger that.
12:43 , Mystic Reverb, imbue on Flog :)
do you think lash's aiming requirement is a high skill floor sort of deal? i am in love with deadlock but im not as good at aiming as i used to be, i want to play lash but hitting shots while im airborne is so difficult.
but why no mystic vulnerability?
Can someone help me understand how radius and angle are being used interchangeably here
is warp stone still good?
I honestly like Majestic leap, which is a great replacement.
I feel like they’ve tweaked his ground stomp. It feels way more intuitive now.
Since Gordon Hayward asked for the Warden guide when you postin haha
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Cone is just an affirmation area for a lock, ult's area of effect is a cyllinder around Lash with infinite hight and stated radius. So, for ult to grab someone you just need to be within 18m of them on horizontal axis, they can be the one flying above for all it cares.
See I knew someone better at math than me would explain it!
Pulling Vindictas and Talons outta the air never gets old. But you can't beat yoinking a Seven out of his ult.
I know it is a lot more work but these would be way more engaging if you added in gameplay footage instead of just staying in the sand box.
Yeah - definitely hear you. I plan to only keep improving the content, but it is a TON more work to get gameplay footage to showcase everything I'm saying. I definitely hear you though. Thanks for the feedback =)
i think Deadlock's sandbox is such a perfect game mode to test the heroes .. there's stationary ones, moving ones, creeps and you can spawn heroes to test things and showcase abilities and how to use them. I think a gameplay example might even be harder to showcase, since there's usually more going on and here, he can focus on showing the basic ideas and what is important
Surprised to not see Reactive Barrier in situational.
I guess it could be in every build's situational, however I do rarely buy it on Lash (not enough green slots)
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Near the end wdym the ult is a cone I thought it’s a sphere
Technically it's a cone, although the shape you see is a circle, but it's a cone that expands from Lash's body if that makes sense.
@@Deathy still doesnt really make sense. The radius you can throw around you doesn’t change so that would be a sphere no? Or are you talking about like what you can grab so you have a cone of vision
Cone is just an affirmation area for a lock, ult's area of effect is a cyllinder around Lash with infinite hight and stated radius. So, for ult to grab someone you just need to be within 18m of them on horizontal axis, they can be the one flying above for all it cares.
@@sujetgoogol8477 Ty, I did not know it had infinite vertical range, just thought it was a big sphere
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bro i fucking hate this hero. heuyhueuhehue 1shot you from the roof ehueuhehu full heal from whip.
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