The Fanatic Compares: Tabletopia vs Tabletop Playground vs Tabletop Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Welcome back everyone, today I'm taking a look at three popular mediums for playing board games on the PC. Which is right for you? Let's weigh the pros and cons and find out!
Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
Tabletopia - 0:32
Tabletop Playground - 1:34
Tabletop Simulator - 2:26
Conclusion - 3:53
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Nice video! I guess our choice is pretty obvious :)
Thank you for taking the time to respond, I hope you found my criticisms to be fair.
Tabletop Playground does have a TTS importer as well as an in-depth editor mode.
Just keep in mind you still have to do a fair bit of work with the importer.
As a newcomer this was really helpful :)
Glad it could be of use! Whichever one you choose, have fun!
I found accidentally dropping already rolled dice was a real problem in tabletopia - we were attempting to play Roll Player
Great review ❤
Thank you, I hope it helped you find which of them was right for you!
Any thoughts on Board Game Arena?
I'm mostly interested in learning how to play new games, solo... and that the games accurately reflect the physical board-game.
For example, I purchased the Steam versions of 'Ticket to Ride' and 'Wingspan' for the Desktop and it definitely flattened the difficulty curve! But, I've heard some games don't transfer as well (Gloomhaven, The Crew Deep Sea, etc).
BTW, any plans for a video with you top board-games of all time?
I've not yet tried Board Game Arena, I'm afraid, so I can't offer any opinions on it. Though it might have been more fair of me to compare Tabletopia to it than TTS and TTP from what I understand of it, since both are browser-based.
I've played a fair bit of Gloomhaven digital as well as via my physical copy and via TTS. Although TTS is my preferred was to play (there is an amazing mod for such), Gloomhaven digital really isn't bad- yes, some concessions are made to make the transition to being a video game, but it's still about 98% accurate to the source material- I wouldn't call it a bad or unfaithful adaptation, with only one change being something I consider major (can't explain what without going into spoilers).
As for doing an overall top 5 or top 10 favorites list, it's something I've toyed with the idea of before, but I'm not sure. I kind of want to, but 1) I definitely want to do full reviews of more of them first, and 2) there is the issue that one or two of those may be titles that I foolishly let go of and regretted later, or even one that I've only played via friend's copies. It won't be anytime soon, but I don't want to rule it out entirely.
PS: I highly recommend Sentinels of the Multiverse if you're looking for faithful digital adaptations of tabletop games. It's one of my favorite co-ops to play solo, and the digital version is 100% accurate, even for the parts that were harder to adapt to a video game (such as Completionist Guise).
Table top simulator was my gateway into the hobby
I wouldn't have the Star Wars LCG or One Night Ultimate Werewolf if I'd not played them on TTS first; and I'll soon be able to say the same about Millennium Blades as well. I wish more companies would embrace it as a way to show off their titles.
I very much like Tabletopia as long as you can find people to play with. This review is more than half a year old so maybe the UI has improved, but it feels decent. There's occasional hiccups, mainly with the placement of the cards, but I really like how the games looks. Plus it supports the designers of those games, which I really like. On the other hand you can get Tabletop Simulator for 10€ several times a year in all kind of discounts and for that price there's really no reason not to get it. Might as well have all.
I'm planning to start a Kickstarter which can give access to early backers to a digital version. So Tabletopia sounds great if it is free!
I'd recommend going with both if you can find the time for it. Wider audience that way.
That was an excellent video, and your takes are well formed.
Maybe keep your hands down by your side, the gesticulating can be distracting.
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback; it helps me to know what is and isn't working!
Ive had an idea to create my own version of an old 3M/Avalon Hill game called Feudal. Its basically chess where you can move all the pieces and there is a limited application of terrain and rules. Does anyone think I can create such a digital game using Tabletop Playground?
Most certainly; a number of designers have been using these sort of programs to prototype their games, as it make it easier to tweak and change individual pieces.
I have simulator for twilight imperium.
The issue is the mod no longer has all the objects available. I can't get new players without them.
Looks like the community is growing on playground though. Hate to rebuy an engine but I need my twilight imperium!
I know a while back FFG was cracking down on mods of their more recent games, it may have been hit by that. Mind you, this is just speculation, but it's the only guess I can give.
@@AdamTheFanatic I had no idea. Thanks for the info!
TableTop Simulator is my goto b/c of the game selection. I'd gladly pay for Tabletopia if they would fix their interface. The card/deck manipulation is problematic and I've had multiple times where I dropped a card/piece and it fell thru the table, never to be seen again.
Yeah, Tabletopia's interface is... Very clunky compared to the other two. Not had the problems with dropping pieces, but it sadly doesn't surprise me.
The biggest thing I want to know is do all players need this game or just the host? I would like to get one of these to play games with friends and family, but I do not want to ask each of them to buy it if we are only going to play a few times.
For Tabletop Simulator and Tabletop Playground, you all need to own the base game itself. If you're talking about TTS's premium DLC, only the host needs to own the DLC, but everyone still needs to have their own copy of Tabletop Simulator. Tabletopia's base is free, and once again, only the host needs to own the DLC for others to play it with them.
@@AdamTheFanatic I'm sorry, I'm very new to all of this. What is dlc?
@@MsGinahidesout No need to apologize, we were all new once. DLC stand for DownLoadable Content; digital expansion packs. In the case of Tabletop Simulator and Tabletopia, each one is an officially supported game that you get a premium mod for.
I have found Tabletopia to be alot less GPU intensive and the very intuitive to use. I have more experience with TTS which is works well, the only downside is I have not been been able to convince all my players to stump up to buy it and you need a half decent PC to run it.
I suppose that is something I should have thought of, since those who aren't into video gaming as much as board gaming may well want a less resource-intensive experience. I disagree about it feeling very intuitive, but to each their own; thanks for your input!
It's gonna get the crown soon as support is ending for tabletop sim
Which one do you think will take the crown? Tabletopia or Tabletop Playground?
By a long margin, Tabletop Simulator is the best offering of the bunch. The controls are not only easy, but highly flexible - there are a lot if controls and they are all reconfigurable. Tabletopia and Tabletop Playground are decent in their own ways, but the dramatic lack of content and the relatively stiff controls make them a no-go for me. I tried to play Tabletopia for a while and stopped immediately when all if the games I wanted to try were buried by a SUBSCRIPTION paywall for higher player counts. Subscription....really?! Not cool 'Topia.. charge 10 bucks for the software and eliminate the garbage subscription, then you have our audience..
Anyways, long story short, too many hurdles with Topia and Playground to have to contend with to switch from TTS.
I agree for the most part; though as mentioned before, remember that Playground is less than a year old. It has a lot of work if it wants to pull in an audience and get more mods up and running, but if it can manage, I think it'll be a worthy competitor. But that's a big "if".
Tabletop Creator is an upcoming one on Steam.
Maybe I'll take a look in the future.
Which one do you think would be easiest for someone who is not very technologically inclined?. ie ME LOL.
If recommend starting with Tabletopia and trying the free games they have; if you find you like playing by computer, if recommend getting Tabletop Simulator afterwards.
What is best to create a card game?
What of this has the best ai?
None of them have AI; theoretically, you COULD create an AI with the scripting options in Tabletop SImulator or Tabletop Playground, but none of them are designed with this in mind- it's mostly meant for playing with other live players.
For making, prototyping, and play testing a new card game, I'd recommend Tabletop Simulator- Playground has similar tools, but there's just a lot less people on there.
@@AdamTheFanatic Thanks, and Do you know what engine or medium is recommended to create a card game with ai?
@@darmiandurmanup2329 Sorry, but what you need is someone that's familiar with programming and development of video games; I'm afraid that's outside my area of expertise. I can name game engines I'm familiar with, but since I'm not a programmer, I've not actually worked with any of them and couldn't tell you the strengths and weaknesses behind them.
@@AdamTheFanatic Ok, thanks man.
I only want to play in VR, and Tabletop Simulator's VR support is broken. You can't play properly anything with scripts, and the interface feels clunky in general. So far Tabletop Playground looks like a more appropriate fit. It "just" needs more content.
I have to admit, I know zero about VR, so I can't say. TTP has VR support, but I can't comment on how good or bad it is.
what about tailspire?
That's more a tool for RPGs only, I don't really do Pencil and Paper RPG content on this channel I'm afraid.
Music is too loud, mouth wet clicking noise peaks are not filtered by any audio software.
You're not the first to mention the music issue, I've tried turning it down a few more decibels in my most recent videos, I hope that helps.
As for getting rid of mouth pops, if you have any recommendations for software that can help me with that, I'd be greatly appreciative. I manually cut out any that appear between sentence, but I've yet to find a way to deal with the ones that pop up in the middle.
@@AdamTheFanatic : www.diyvideostudio.com/how-to-stop-microphone-popping/
@@brodriguez11000 Thanks, I'll read over this and see what I can do!
table top simulator is horrible. The graphics and controls are terrible.
Due to Tabletop Simulator's nature, the graphics are only going to be as good as the scans you're using for most games. Use better scans, you'll get better graphics.
As for the controls, I'm curious as to what you'd change for them?