In 2022, Toto said Lewis can go on for another 5-10 years. Even mentioning how Alonso was 41, yet still competitive. Now he’s saying Lewis cannot be trusted with a contract greater than 1+1 due to potential cognitive declines? It’s disrespectful and disingenuous!
You clearly haven‘t watched Hamilton‘s performances in the last 3 years then , even in 2021 to some extent (got schooled by Max for most of the year while sitting in that W12 spaceshuttle). He clearly is giga washed and nowhere near top 3 drivers on the grid anymore. They didn‘t give him a longer contract and put in that exit clause because his performance on track neither is worth a long contract nor his absurd salary
@ I don’t agree with your opinion. Hamilton was 3rd, pushing checco for 2nd, in the drivers championship last year in a car that wasn’t 2nd best. He’s in his last year of his contract going to a rival. Mercs have clearly downgraded his chances in this car, yet he’s 2 points behind 26-year old Russell?
@@TheTenners and this is the problem if you're even putting russell in the same points space as lewis on any seasons then lewis is past it, george has had a shit year, the crash with alonso the dnf, the crash has dropped over 60to 70 points, you have to think would prime lewis even lose to russell? in race no, in qualifying no, i think you've seen two stages of deterioration from lewis, the qualifying which tends to be reflex based and now we have seen a decline in his race pace, even in silverstone which was a great lewis performance, max was one lap from beating him in a slower car on that weekend. the best lewis is probably 85% of his old self but even at ferrari i still think hes gonna have the same quali issues and race issues
@@GhostonRUclips201x so Russell is given the benefit of the doubt with DNFs but Lewis isn’t when Mercedes downgrade his car with poor tyre temps, set up and car when he’s in the last year of his contract? Btw some of Russell’s DNFs are his fault, like Silverstone and Spa when he went off track and damaged his car and didn’t make a two stopper to preserve tyre weight. Hamilton’s reaction time off the grid is still the quickest in average out of the 20 drivers! If Max has another lap? If my aunty had baIIs, she’d be my uncle!
I 1000% agree with Cameron. Forget these other guys… One major thing Ferrari gave Michael to add to his story was the Ferrari FXX and Michael got a black version dedicated to his career. Everyone knows that. Potentially the whole FXX Ferrari series is off the back of Schumacher’s history at Ferrari. Merc barely even mentioned Lewis when they released the Project One car. They say, it has a F1 engine. To current day, Merc absolutely is not respecting Lewis. McLaren not only let Lewis drive Senna’s car, but the race before McLaren’s race livery was from Lewis’ first championship winning year. McLaren is showing more respect to Lewis than Mercedes.
Neither Senna not Schumacher blamed their cars or team when they couldn't win or finish the race as they wanted. Unfortunately it's not the same with Lewis
I agree with Cam, I think it’s very clear Merc forced his hand with the contracts and now Toto gets to be rude about it and say he’s getting senile. The Mercedes board didn’t want to pay him anymore or give him the ambassador role and Toto has been weird since AD21 and failing to back Lewis and get him that 8th. I think lately he’s only driven by his $$ share, never sentiment. Just see his odd comments at Vegas last year. As was suggested, I’m washing my hands of this team next year, they’ve disrespected Sir LCDH too much. Scorched Earth.
He knows a lot more than all of us combined when it comes to Hamilton's mental state. He knows the test results and he knows how long they've kept Hamilton around because of his brand value.
2 things about this topic 1. The sabotage fiasco from LH fans didn't help or motivate the Team to go out and celebrate. It dampened spirits to be fair. Especially that some of the negative comments were initiated by LH during press conferences. So you read from that as an outsider that not all is well within the Team. I must say, I am still amazed that the Team didn't come out and obliterate him publicly on those comments. He accused the Team of dishonesty, reputational damaged. They were diplomatic and even defended Lewis in public. 2. George Russell fans were in uproar this season for Mercedes not celebrating or recognizing his efforts and great races in favour of Lewis. I mean even pundits mentioned how much Toto lacked praises for George. When Lewis made mistakes they protected him vs public flogging of George if he did the same. That led to George being so disrespected by the f1 fans. He was open season to insult George.
Toto’s behaving like a bitchy divorcee. It’s embarrassing quite frankly. And so unnecessary. Ultimately both parties are in the position they want to be in. He has Russell in the pocket and Antonelli in prospect. Lewis has the dream end to his career by going to drive at Ferrari. Just pat the bloke on the back and wish him good luck. Sad.
Toto is the same man who cried when James Vowles called Mick - nothing special! He said that was disrespectful from James. Yet Toto is doing the exact same thing to Lewis! What a hypocrite!
I understand what Cameron is saying. Toto could talk more about the struggles with the car in 2022, 2023 and 2024. Instead of talking about The decline of SLH. All of the teams were struggling with the new regulations and changes. Mercedes struggled more than any of the other top teams. Instead, Toto has been trying to paint the narrative that Lewis did something wrong by signing with Ferrari. The poor car performance for 3 years had something to do with Lewis’ decision. All good things must come to an end and Mercedes has to think about the future. I understand George represents the future but Lewis’s car setup and performance is surprisingly different than George’s. Team strategies went against what Lewis wanted such as Soft tires when all other drivers were on Mediums along with questionable tire temperatures. Even after all that, George recently just passed Lewis by two points. Prior to Lewis coming to the Mercedes team, they were mid-level and will return there after Lewis leaves. A seven time champ does deserve respect on his name. During that time, Mercedes won 8 constructors titles. Their sponsorships and merchandise sales are fueled by him being the GOAT. SLH’s win at Silverstone 2024 was his first win in two years. There was a celebration by the fans and the team. Toto was no where to be found during that time. He was also missing the Mercedes team photo to honor the win for the team and Lewis. Lewis Hamilton is the GOAT and is the only black driver in a traditionally non-black sport. The intensity of celebration and recognition would different if he were non-black driver. Lewis is the biggest star in F1. He is the best driver the Mercedes team has ever had and deserves maximum respect and credit for their success. I think that is the point Cameron is trying to make. There has been nobody better than Lewis and Ferrari seems to know that.
Who was Lewis before coming to Mercedes? 1 time world champion? Why didn't he make any other teams world champion? First get your self into reality and you can comment
I don’t even expect them to celebrate his time (which they haven’t), it’s the disrespectful comments Toto wants to throw at him all because Hamilton took his career into his own hands and left a sinking ship!!!!!! If you have nothing good to say, DON’T SAY IT AT ALL TO THE MAN WHO MADE YOU RELEVANT AND RICH !!
This is a hot one, Shez and Cam going at it. I understand and agree with what Shez and Baxty are saying. They owe each other Mercedes and Lewis, they provided the car and Lewis provided the skill, determination and will to win.
Beautifully contentious discussion!! If HAM scores an official #8 with Ferrari, it would shut the door on any GOAT talk....dont care how much of it winds up being the car.
Why can't Toto say that...? Does Lewis drive there for free? Or does he take millions a year? A factory worker somewhere works faithfully for 40 years for a low salary and when he is no longer needed, he is thrown in the garbage... and that's fine? But these highly paid fast-driving gigolos are gods? Please act normal gentlemen
One thought @ Cam: we need to give Merc a chance to get to the end of the season and do their farewell. C'mon ... they can't have an arch of honour every darn race from Singapore
Lewis benefitted far more than Merc from their partnership. They won 8 WCC to Lewis’ 6 WDC. They could’ve won all 8 without Lewis. Anyone would’ve loved to drive that rocketship. That’s why they aren’t glazing to the degree Cameron wants. Merc elevated Lewis, not the reverse.
@ they beat Ferrari by 146 pts in 17. 18 was tighter at 84. 21 was the only truly close one at 28. They’d have had someone better than Bottas in the other seat though, who was only there to be Lewis’ subordinate.
@@michaeldellorso889 - Ferrari had comparable cars to Mercs 2017-2018 but they made mistakes. Lewis was brilliant during this period and was able to capitalise on Ferrari/Vettel mistakes e.g. Singapore 2017, Germany 2018. As for Bottas, he was far better than the subpar Perez in 2021 who is only there to be subordinate to Verstappen,
@@michaeldellorso889 -just pointing out that Lewis isn't the only champ who has won with a subordinate teammate. And if Perez had been as good as Bottas, RB could've easily won the WCC in 2021. Look at Perez now...arguably the worse driver on the grid. Back to 2017 and 2018--Kimi was at times treated as a subordinate to Vettel e.g. China 2018. The point is, Ferrari had comparable cars to Merc during 2017-2018..without Lewis (or a driver of his calibre such as Alonso) forcing Ferrari into making mistakes and capitalising, there's no guarantee Merc would have won the WCCs. 2014-2016 i would agree with you. 2019 & 2020 i would agree with you. But not 2017, 2018 2021.
Mercedes doesn't owe Hamilton an 8th championship. They gave him a championship winning car 8 seasons in a row. Without Mercedes Hamilton is a 1 time champion and would exit F1 with just a fraction of the legacy he has now. Mercedes without Hamilton however would probably still have won every single one of those championships with a driver the quality of Rosberg. Mercedes deserves a lot of credit here.
@@farahaloran2432 Hamilton has hardly won anything after 2021. Bottas has hardly scored any points. If it had been a different top tier driver in that Mercedes then Hamilton hardly wins anything, but Mercedes would still have won every championship. 10% driver 90% car is not a fact. It is not even anything beyond rhetoric. If I jump in the McLaren guaranteed I would be dead last every race. But if we swap Norris for Russell it is probably not going to make a whole lot of difference. McLaren versus Red Bull this season is more comparable with Mercedes versus Red Bull in 2021 in terms of car performances. The McLaren also has a similar advantage Mercedes had in 2017 and 2018, but Norris is facing a stronger opponent than Hamilton did. Mercedes 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 is far more dominant than Red Bull 2023.
Cameron you nailed it in this episode! How long are we going to keep making excuses for Mercedes’ and Toto’s mistreatment of sir LH??!! While other drivers are never scrutinised or disrespected though they did not achieved half what LH has. In contrary, only excuses are made for their performances. Just look at alonso! Was toto not willing to sign him to replace LH, while alonso is older and nowhere to be found on the grid compared to Lewis. Where was the convo about the cognitive decline then? Nowhere because that comment by Toto was only made to mind f*ck Lewis Hamilton. Solely for that as LHs reactive time, at his age, is still the fastest from the entire grid! What cognitive decline??!! Hamilton will prevail (in totos own word ;))
Mercedes could have made Rosberg 7 times WDC too. Simple, just don't hire a slightly quicker driver like Hamilton but a slightly slower one, Rosberg was quick enough, good enough and consisted enough.
@@antiwokehuman I know, that was also why they didn't hire a 2nd driver for Rosberg. The UK would stop watching F1 entirely, even the Germans and Finns didn't care for Rosberg, and Mercedes would still have the white boomer brand image in the USA market.
I saw nothing wrong with any of toto’s comments lately . Also Lewis owns Mercedes equally or even more. Without Mercedes there were no 6 Championships. Without all the factory workers and engineers there is no Mercedes . Just saying . Lewis was great but we are missing the reason and order of celebration .
You don't go looking for the next driver when you have the GOAT on your team. Tutu and Merc wanted SLH to retire, not go to F1 Royalty. They didn't want him, now MAD he has a new BAE.
To quote Michael Schumacher it's 80% car. As much as I love Lewis he DIDN'T build the team, the engineers that built that all dominant engine made the team!
If they loved him as much as you claim they would have done everything they could and understood the car and corrected it in 23 and Lewis should have more wins and podiums on his final tour with a team that love him so much
I'm thinking that Toto has access to so much data that documents Hamilton's driver inputs and reaction rates over time, that he is well placed to say whether or not Hamilton is all there at this point.
@@UnknownJo10 ignore them. You know what this is...since the first day he stepped into the sport......doesn't matter thoe...went on to break damn near all the significant records
@@terryasamoah4874 exactly! And every time they spoke down on him he proved them wrong. If he never wins another championship at least he’ll retire on his terms not because Mercedes forced him to! His greatness will be spoken for generations so I don’t get the hate honestly. Had he not lost the rear in COTA he’d have had a “decent” race. He made up 5 places on the start alone, that’s not for nothing! But I agree, it’s a waste of time to argue with said people.
People doesn't have favourite teams but when you break up with a team you need to do it right terms unlike crying everytime he fails, its on the car or the team
They DON'T care about Lewis. They use his car as one great massive experiment.. Toto insults him. Bono barely responds to Lewis during races. They have treated him awfully this season.
For years, Mercedes constructed a car that made Lewis Hamilton a dominant champion. In recent years, however, the car has fallen off. How disrespectful of LH. 🙄
How Toto didn’t fight for Lewis in 21, and his words now, to hell with him. I pray LH wins multiple championships with Ferrari. Better yet, let those wins be reason merc will not win a championship anytime soon
I don’t want to compare LH with DR, but the latter wasn’t even mentioned until everything was done and dusted. Why celebrate LH now while he’s still in the sport? Once he leaves Ferrari, assuming that’s his last team, then it will be a proper moment to celebrate
They all owe each other. Sure, I understand the sentiments about Lewis. At the same time, mercedes has made it possible for him to win another 6 wdc's. Without lewis, Rosberg would have been a multiple world champion, other drivers would have gotten a chance at mercedes and would have won instead of lewis. The mercedes car was that good, with or without Lewis.
Firstly, you can say this about any driver who wins a championship, because F1 is a team sport-no one can win on their own. And I didn’t see people have such problem with other greats like Senna or Schumacher. Secondly, you really underestimate what Lewis contributed to those cars. Toto himself mentioned in an interview two or three years ago how Lewis helped the team improve the 2018 car during pre-season tests.
I enjoyed that! Great discussion. Mercedes will miss Lewis when he's gone. That's obvious. He's a superstar. It's as simple as that. Lewis will get his flowers at Ferrari. Forza Ferrari 😎
If I were to put Cameron's emotions and position on the matter succinctly it is simply this; Lewis fans would feel okay with Mercedes and this departure if it all didn't feel icky and open to too many interpretations. This departure doesn't feel amicable in anyway.
Mercedes should be thankful for the 7 championship titles they won with lewis. Also thank Nikki lauder for wooing Lewis to Mercedes to begin with. Toto is acting like hes not bothered lewis is moving teams but wat did he expect. The engineers tried to pull the im alot smarter than u card and u dont know wat ur talking about wen he was talking abt issues with the rear end. lewis drives the car and its his job to relay feedback of certain characteristics how the vehicle behaves. It seems that was the beginning of relationship going sour..
Shez: “Horner…. Coming out with telemetry…humiliating himself and Toto didn’t come out anywhere near that.” Toto: “Oh I see you missed the documents I printed out, have you checked your email?”
The number one reason for not having a three week hiatus is this absolute fodder by you, Cam. They made really good points, you did not. Sorry, but you were way out of line this time around. Don't be that polarising. I know you are a far better man than that
I agree they are not doing enough and have kind of just thrown in the towel so to speak. I think they have been disrespectful of Lewis all year. I actually think that he only had a good car for silverstone because Toto said we will win a race with Lewis this year. (Only because of the letter) and the other side of the garage uses Lewis data to get George’s car right then they change Lewis car so it’s not on par with George’s for qualifying. This was actually confirmed too.
LH should never have stayed at Merc after he signed with Ferrari. If he couldn't quit Merc then he should not have signed with another team. Its a complete shit show now.
I don't even remember anything to celebrate Vettel's time with Red Bull when he decided to leave to Ferrari. It's always going to be a bit of an anti climax because you can't possibly do it enough justice. You can not relive those memories to the full extent. That's just life.
I'm glad he's gone to Ferrari the car they've gave Lewis since 2022 is disgraceful 🤬 Toto shot himself in the foot with a one plus one did it to himself. They don't love Lewis stop lying bro did you not hear Lewis shouting to get a response just to answer a simple question? He asked a question the same question 3 times and got ignored he had to shout 🤬
Back in 2006, Ferrari did the same with Michael Schumacher. Ok, he decided to retire, but Ferrari came out and said the same things. Raikkonen was the future. And Ferrari said that Michael was reaching the end of his career, and was starting to lose his edge. I remember that well. With the coming of Raikkonen and Alonso. I think it's natural. I don't think Toto was being disrespectful. I love Lewis. And hate to hear these things. But I do think that Lewis has probably lost his edge. It's a natural progression I'm afraid.
Mercedes does not owe anything to Lewis Hamilton this is Formula One not tiddlywinks. Mercedes-Benz Lewis Hamilton a super fast car with which he won six titles with they don't have anything else.
Everything that their doing with Lewis right now is for them they’re benefiting from all the press content and images they post of Lewis they benefit from Lewis appearing places Hamilton isn’t gaining anything from what you guys claim they’re doing for him they haven’t done anything for him
sounds like 3 teenagers are angry for not getting a pony for the sweet 16 birthday party ... what sort of leaving party are you wishing to see??? and what stopes you to organise one ...
You can't be mad at toto for speaking facts as a TEAM OWNER, plus Lewis took the decision not to tell Toto when he signed for Ferrari and that didn't sit well with toto as the season prior both told the media new contract talks will last 2 minutes
Let's just say that toto is right, the point here is to not be speaking negatively about your greatest driver and only have good positive words towards lewis.
If Lewis was walking away from F1 at the end of this year Mercedes they would probably do something more. But he's walking away from the people who made everything happen for him because Ferrari agreed to the money he was demanding. Michael Schumacher left F1 when he left Ferrari, okay he came back again. How can you not remember the end of Michael's time at Ferrari? Did you even see it? How old were you at the time?
Objectivity wasnt here not gonna lie. Mercedes doesnt owe Lewis anything. He hasnt built that team- Schumacher has. Lewis just came in to reap the benefits. As some other comment mentioned, They could well have just as much made Rosberg a five maybe even six or seven time world champion. He was no Lewis, but he was consistent and good enough to do it. I hate to say it but you are just over-romanticizing Lewis Hamilton in this instance. And Lando fumbling the bag this year is not a proof negative for this statement, Mercedes did not have even a semblence of a competitor to face in their era of dominance. 2018 Ferrari was probably the closest they had to having one. And that barelly counts.
I feel too that something is missing from team merc, it would have been nice if they told us why Lewis can´t test the Ferrari instead we hear he´s been blocked this is negative also it would be nice that GR does the testing and lewis gets the best set up so he can enjoy the last few races left but no they make his life a misery, and that´s why we can´t till he goes RED
Fact is, it’s all speculation!…. But obviously there have been too many wtf moments that warrant questioning. We will have new information come next season 🤷🏾♂️
Some on here are saykng Merc and Rosberg would have been 5 time champions? Why guit a sport that you enjoyed so much from a child? How many drivers wished they could win a race or 2 in their career? Yet you win your first championship and abruptly walk away from the sport? Got pushed passed your physical, emotional and mental limits and couldn't endure another season? Its a real pity that we wont get to see slh race against Alonso and Villanuev in similar competitive cars...they are both over hyped....
Ffs, Releasing his caps is them milking his brand Good bye factory tour’s is them again putting him to work. Say something that actually celebrates him
No one at the team has contractual agreements beyond 2025. MB Stuttgart has given Mclaren a engine deal to 2010, they only have 33% share of the team though. Toto has been given performance targets. Toto is smoke and mirrors to make sure his 33% doesn't devalue overnight if MB Stuttgart sell up and go back to being a engine supplier (they own 100% of MB HPP)
I'm surprised they are doing anything after he sacked the team off that have done so much for him and given him multiple championships to go off to rivals Ferrari. ... what do you expect, seriously?
As I said before Mercedes owes him nothing. Especially after Hamilton back door Mercedes by making deals with Ferrari before telling him. But once again this is Formula 1 not tiddlywinks it's a business and they owe him nothing more they did their best with him by giving him a fantastic car which gave him six titles
No one can speak to the true sentiment/thoughts of Lewis, Toto, Bono, nor anyone else on the Merc F1 team. So, I will leave that to them and keep in mind that it is not about me (or the fans necessarily) in the emotion/how they say goodbye to Lewis. The only thing that matters is what Lewis takes from those final moments with the Silver Arrows. I'm also done throwing rocks at Toto as he has to move forward just like Lewis does. However, I have no doubt that no matter how inarticulate Toto may have been at times, he has been apprehensive about the inevitability of this moment with Lewis for years (made worse by not enabling Lewis to get his 8TH). I don't believe (understand and respect those who disagree) that Merc F1 has been at any point this season working to actively/consciously sabotage Lewis. Not saying it is impossible, but I (personally) would need to see more definitive evidence (versus the team just messing things up and naturally because George is staying so he gets the more stable car options). Lewis has ultimately taken ownership of his own missteps this season as well. I will always be supportive of Merc F1 (especially excited for Kimi next year), but I'm a Lewis fan and as of 2025 Ferrari will be my F1 team to support.
So its just a video about Cam asking Merc to celebrate Lewis which are will when they are drowning?? They are there to win, lewis is not going on a notice period job, he wants to win races and is disappointed when he isnt. There is nothing more ingenious than celebrating when you are losing just because you have to. They are champions for 8 years, we just put some respect on Mercedes name as well
Am I mistaken? Wasn''t the 1+1 contract Lewis' idea, with a proviso that if they didn't have the machinery he could leave? Am I wrong? If I'm not, what the hec is Toto on about if not hubris? Love the chat guys. Do you lot get together beforehand, chat and say; Look, I'm gonna be the contrarian, your the challenger and then we'll get this response? Lot of Q's in there😂😂 By the way, the fans will support good work from a team but the driver, being the front of the team gets the praise/flack. We'll support Merc if they're worthy. I support Lewis, good or bad, because he is worthy and not a Dick Dastardly😂I hate - strong word - Horner but appreciate Max the driver, DD or not.🤭 I don't support Red Bull.
Referring to Lewis's mental sharpness is racist. Its like Wolff is playing into that old (and wrong) trope and stereotype of the less intelligent black man. Wolff would never question the mental capacity/sharpness of a white driver. And i agree with Cameron, Merc are completely disrespecting Lewis.
Lewis is walking away from the man, the team that has given him everything he has in life. Lewis is going to another team because Mercedes won't pay him the money he thinks is worth. And frankly he's done nothing since the end of 2021 of any value to Mercedes except winge and complain about how awful the car is. Lewis doesn't have to leave the team he's choosing to. And, he's going because of the money. That's it. Without Mercedes Lewis wouldn't have achieved anything, maybe a handful of race wins. Life will go on at Mercedes.
V10 or whatever yòur name is, some relationships come to an end with the choice of words being Gourded , think of Vettel, Schumacher, and many other drivers , they are no longer driving but their teams continue to be happy being associated with them. Will Lewis continue with that ambilical cord, i doubt it.
Lol I am loving the tearing apart of Lewis and Mercedes. Three years of absolute pi$$ poor engineering and performance all around. "My team doesn't make mistakes". I don't care 1 iota, not one. They've been poor and I'm very glad they both have been buried by McClaren, Red Bull and Ferrari.
In 2022, Toto said Lewis can go on for another 5-10 years. Even mentioning how Alonso was 41, yet still competitive. Now he’s saying Lewis cannot be trusted with a contract greater than 1+1 due to potential cognitive declines? It’s disrespectful and disingenuous!
You clearly haven‘t watched Hamilton‘s performances in the last 3 years then , even in 2021 to some extent (got schooled by Max for most of the year while sitting in that W12 spaceshuttle). He clearly is giga washed and nowhere near top 3 drivers on the grid anymore. They didn‘t give him a longer contract and put in that exit clause because his performance on track neither is worth a long contract nor his absurd salary
George has the same contract. It is rare for Merc to hand out long term contracts.
@ I don’t agree with your opinion. Hamilton was 3rd, pushing checco for 2nd, in the drivers championship last year in a car that wasn’t 2nd best. He’s in his last year of his contract going to a rival. Mercs have clearly downgraded his chances in this car, yet he’s 2 points behind 26-year old Russell?
@@TheTenners and this is the problem if you're even putting russell in the same points space as lewis on any seasons then lewis is past it, george has had a shit year, the crash with alonso the dnf, the crash has dropped over 60to 70 points, you have to think would prime lewis even lose to russell? in race no, in qualifying no, i think you've seen two stages of deterioration from lewis, the qualifying which tends to be reflex based and now we have seen a decline in his race pace, even in silverstone which was a great lewis performance, max was one lap from beating him in a slower car on that weekend. the best lewis is probably 85% of his old self but even at ferrari i still think hes gonna have the same quali issues and race issues
@@GhostonRUclips201x so Russell is given the benefit of the doubt with DNFs but Lewis isn’t when Mercedes downgrade his car with poor tyre temps, set up and car when he’s in the last year of his contract? Btw some of Russell’s DNFs are his fault, like Silverstone and Spa when he went off track and damaged his car and didn’t make a two stopper to preserve tyre weight. Hamilton’s reaction time off the grid is still the quickest in average out of the 20 drivers! If Max has another lap? If my aunty had baIIs, she’d be my uncle!
I 1000% agree with Cameron. Forget these other guys… One major thing Ferrari gave Michael to add to his story was the Ferrari FXX and Michael got a black version dedicated to his career. Everyone knows that. Potentially the whole FXX Ferrari series is off the back of Schumacher’s history at Ferrari. Merc barely even mentioned Lewis when they released the Project One car. They say, it has a F1 engine. To current day, Merc absolutely is not respecting Lewis. McLaren not only let Lewis drive Senna’s car, but the race before McLaren’s race livery was from Lewis’ first championship winning year. McLaren is showing more respect to Lewis than Mercedes.
Neither Senna not Schumacher blamed their cars or team when they couldn't win or finish the race as they wanted. Unfortunately it's not the same with Lewis
@@Sam-rl5hsevery driver blames the car if it underperformed! Even Max and charles do .
I agree with Cam, I think it’s very clear Merc forced his hand with the contracts and now Toto gets to be rude about it and say he’s getting senile. The Mercedes board didn’t want to pay him anymore or give him the ambassador role and Toto has been weird since AD21 and failing to back Lewis and get him that 8th. I think lately he’s only driven by his $$ share, never sentiment. Just see his odd comments at Vegas last year. As was suggested, I’m washing my hands of this team next year, they’ve disrespected Sir LCDH too much. Scorched Earth.
The cognitive decline comment will leave a mark. Toto is too smart to have mistakenly chose that term.
He knows a lot more than all of us combined when it comes to Hamilton's mental state. He knows the test results and he knows how long they've kept Hamilton around because of his brand value.
Nailed it JJ!
2 things about this topic
1. The sabotage fiasco from LH fans didn't help or motivate the Team to go out and celebrate. It dampened spirits to be fair. Especially that some of the negative comments were initiated by LH during press conferences. So you read from that as an outsider that not all is well within the Team. I must say, I am still amazed that the Team didn't come out and obliterate him publicly on those comments. He accused the Team of dishonesty, reputational damaged. They were diplomatic and even defended Lewis in public.
2. George Russell fans were in uproar this season for Mercedes not celebrating or recognizing his efforts and great races in favour of Lewis. I mean even pundits mentioned how much Toto lacked praises for George. When Lewis made mistakes they protected him vs public flogging of George if he did the same. That led to George being so disrespected by the f1 fans. He was open season to insult George.
Toto’s behaving like a bitchy divorcee. It’s embarrassing quite frankly. And so unnecessary. Ultimately both parties are in the position they want to be in. He has Russell in the pocket and Antonelli in prospect. Lewis has the dream end to his career by going to drive at Ferrari. Just pat the bloke on the back and wish him good luck. Sad.
Yes and LH the cheating wife 😂😂😂
Toto is the same man who cried when James Vowles called Mick - nothing special! He said that was disrespectful from James. Yet Toto is doing the exact same thing to Lewis! What a hypocrite!
if Lewis didn't went to Merc... we would have had 4 or 5 time world champion Nico Rosberg ....
Depends who was in the other Merc, and in the Ferrari 2017-2018.
If Lewis didn’t make it to F1 Alonso would be at least a 4 time world champion
@@Dante-w8f2017 - 2018 is Mercedes win
I understand what Cameron is saying. Toto could talk more about the struggles with the car in 2022, 2023 and 2024. Instead of talking about The decline of SLH. All of the teams were struggling with the new regulations and changes. Mercedes struggled more than any of the other top teams.
Instead, Toto has been trying to paint the narrative that Lewis did something wrong by signing with Ferrari. The poor car performance for 3 years had something to do with Lewis’ decision.
All good things must come to an end and Mercedes has to think about the future. I understand George represents the future but Lewis’s car setup and performance is surprisingly different than George’s. Team strategies went against what Lewis wanted such as Soft tires when all other drivers were on Mediums along with questionable tire temperatures. Even after all that, George recently just passed Lewis by two points.
Prior to Lewis coming to the Mercedes team, they were mid-level and will return there after Lewis leaves. A seven time champ does deserve respect on his name. During that time, Mercedes won 8 constructors titles. Their sponsorships and merchandise sales are fueled by him being the GOAT.
SLH’s win at Silverstone 2024 was his first win in two years. There was a celebration by the fans and the team. Toto was no where to be found during that time. He was also missing the Mercedes team photo to honor the win for the team and Lewis.
Lewis Hamilton is the GOAT and is the only black driver in a traditionally non-black sport. The intensity of celebration and recognition would different if he were non-black driver.
Lewis is the biggest star in F1. He is the best driver the Mercedes team has ever had and deserves maximum respect and credit for their success. I think that is the point Cameron is trying to make.
There has been nobody better than Lewis and Ferrari seems to know that.
😂😂😂
Who was Lewis before coming to Mercedes? 1 time world champion? Why didn't he make any other teams world champion? First get your self into reality and you can comment
I don’t even expect them to celebrate his time (which they haven’t), it’s the disrespectful comments Toto wants to throw at him all because Hamilton took his career into his own hands and left a sinking ship!!!!!! If you have nothing good to say, DON’T SAY IT AT ALL TO THE MAN WHO MADE YOU RELEVANT AND RICH !!
It's the other way around who was he before 2014
This is a hot one, Shez and Cam going at it. I understand and agree with what Shez and Baxty are saying. They owe each other Mercedes and Lewis, they provided the car and Lewis provided the skill, determination and will to win.
Beautifully contentious discussion!! If HAM scores an official #8 with Ferrari, it would shut the door on any GOAT talk....dont care how much of it winds up being the car.
Ham won't be able to do what Schumacher did. Ferrari is Ham F1 exit alla Vettel.
@@Ron_Realok genius psychic
@MidnightAspec, Yes!👍🏻👩🏻🦰💜💛
@@josephineowili3435lol first let him beat his teammate, he is not able to overtake with a DRS
Why can't Toto say that...?
Does Lewis drive there for free?
Or does he take millions a year?
A factory worker somewhere works faithfully for 40 years for a low salary and when he is no longer needed, he is thrown in the garbage... and that's fine?
But these highly paid fast-driving gigolos are gods?
Please act normal gentlemen
Exactly! 👍🏾
One thought @ Cam: we need to give Merc a chance to get to the end of the season and do their farewell.
C'mon ... they can't have an arch of honour every darn race from Singapore
Lewis benefitted far more than Merc from their partnership. They won 8 WCC to Lewis’ 6 WDC. They could’ve won all 8 without Lewis. Anyone would’ve loved to drive that rocketship. That’s why they aren’t glazing to the degree Cameron wants. Merc elevated Lewis, not the reverse.
They may not have won 2017, 2018 and 2021 without Lewis. Ferrari challenged 2017-2018, RB challenged 2021...
@ they beat Ferrari by 146 pts in 17. 18 was tighter at 84. 21 was the only truly close one at 28. They’d have had someone better than Bottas in the other seat though, who was only there to be Lewis’ subordinate.
@@michaeldellorso889 - Ferrari had comparable cars to Mercs 2017-2018 but they made mistakes. Lewis was brilliant during this period and was able to capitalise on Ferrari/Vettel mistakes e.g. Singapore 2017, Germany 2018. As for Bottas, he was far better than the subpar Perez in 2021 who is only there to be subordinate to Verstappen,
@@michaeldellorso889 -just pointing out that Lewis isn't the only champ who has won with a subordinate teammate. And if Perez had been as good as Bottas, RB could've easily won the WCC in 2021. Look at Perez now...arguably the worse driver on the grid.
Back to 2017 and 2018--Kimi was at times treated as a subordinate to Vettel e.g. China 2018.
The point is, Ferrari had comparable cars to Merc during 2017-2018..without Lewis (or a driver of his calibre such as Alonso) forcing Ferrari into making mistakes and capitalising, there's no guarantee Merc would have won the WCCs. 2014-2016 i would agree with you. 2019 & 2020 i would agree with you. But not 2017, 2018 2021.
Absolutely agree
Mercedes doesn't owe Hamilton an 8th championship. They gave him a championship winning car 8 seasons in a row. Without Mercedes Hamilton is a 1 time champion and would exit F1 with just a fraction of the legacy he has now. Mercedes without Hamilton however would probably still have won every single one of those championships with a driver the quality of Rosberg. Mercedes deserves a lot of credit here.
A skilled driver has a major role, look at Lando ! Verry fast car but is not doing what LH did!? 10% driver 90% car this is a fact Google it.
@@farahaloran2432 Hamilton has hardly won anything after 2021. Bottas has hardly scored any points. If it had been a different top tier driver in that Mercedes then Hamilton hardly wins anything, but Mercedes would still have won every championship.
10% driver 90% car is not a fact. It is not even anything beyond rhetoric. If I jump in the McLaren guaranteed I would be dead last every race. But if we swap Norris for Russell it is probably not going to make a whole lot of difference.
McLaren versus Red Bull this season is more comparable with Mercedes versus Red Bull in 2021 in terms of car performances. The McLaren also has a similar advantage Mercedes had in 2017 and 2018, but Norris is facing a stronger opponent than Hamilton did. Mercedes 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 is far more dominant than Red Bull 2023.
Cameron you nailed it in this episode! How long are we going to keep making excuses for Mercedes’ and Toto’s mistreatment of sir LH??!! While other drivers are never scrutinised or disrespected though they did not achieved half what LH has. In contrary, only excuses are made for their performances. Just look at alonso! Was toto not willing to sign him to replace LH, while alonso is older and nowhere to be found on the grid compared to Lewis. Where was the convo about the cognitive decline then? Nowhere because that comment by Toto was only made to mind f*ck Lewis Hamilton. Solely for that as LHs reactive time, at his age, is still the fastest from the entire grid! What cognitive decline??!! Hamilton will prevail (in totos own word ;))
Mercedes owe Lewis?
Lewis wouldn’t even have a career in F1 but for Norbert Haug and Mercedes backing when he was 13.
Mercedes could have made Rosberg 7 times WDC too. Simple, just don't hire a slightly quicker driver like Hamilton but a slightly slower one, Rosberg was quick enough, good enough and consisted enough.
@@DenUitvreterfacts. People won’t like it if you tell them that though
Does it justify speaking that way?
@@antiwokehuman I know, that was also why they didn't hire a 2nd driver for Rosberg. The UK would stop watching F1 entirely, even the Germans and Finns didn't care for Rosberg, and Mercedes would still have the white boomer brand image in the USA market.
@@bensuede3862 Did Toto tell a lie? Lewis can’t race forever and he’s beyond his peak, his peak was probably against Bottas & Vettel.
I saw nothing wrong with any of toto’s comments lately . Also Lewis owns Mercedes equally or even more. Without Mercedes there were no 6 Championships. Without all the factory workers and engineers there is no Mercedes . Just saying . Lewis was great but we are missing the reason and order of celebration .
You don't go looking for the next driver when you have the GOAT on your team. Tutu and Merc wanted SLH to retire, not go to F1 Royalty. They didn't want him, now MAD he has a new BAE.
I agree a hundred percent with Cameron. Toto needs to show some respect to Sir lewis hamilton . ❤
To quote Michael Schumacher it's 80% car. As much as I love Lewis he DIDN'T build the team, the engineers that built that all dominant engine made the team!
Why didn't the engineer drive it
@@terryasamoah4874the engineer doesn't drive it as Michael Schumacher had mechanical input like no other driver has it
@@Sam-rl5hs right and Lewis didnt...he had zero input 🤣🤣🤣idiot
If they loved him as much as you claim they would have done everything they could and understood the car and corrected it in 23 and Lewis should have more wins and podiums on his final tour with a team that love him so much
I'm thinking that Toto has access to so much data that documents Hamilton's driver inputs and reaction rates over time, that he is well placed to say whether or not Hamilton is all there at this point.
Build a better car 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lewis was literally topping the start reaction times from the stat! Y’all just say anything. He’s top 3 for sure if nothing else!
@@UnknownJo10 ignore them. You know what this is...since the first day he stepped into the sport......doesn't matter thoe...went on to break damn near all the significant records
@@terryasamoah4874 exactly! And every time they spoke down on him he proved them wrong. If he never wins another championship at least he’ll retire on his terms not because Mercedes forced him to! His greatness will be spoken for generations so I don’t get the hate honestly. Had he not lost the rear in COTA he’d have had a “decent” race. He made up 5 places on the start alone, that’s not for nothing! But I agree, it’s a waste of time to argue with said people.
Everything Toto and Merc said and done in this year just reminds me again how good of person, not just a driver, a person , Lewis HE IS
Its nice finally having time to listen to these pods again
S/O to baxty for being patiently silent and your Tom Brady analogy
I find it so bizarre when people have favorite teams... I'm a Max fan not a redbull fan, and a Hamilton fan not a Mercedes one
People doesn't have favourite teams but when you break up with a team you need to do it right terms unlike crying everytime he fails, its on the car or the team
this one was spicy.. i like it
The guy in the red shirt needs to realize that Lewis is nowhere near being the greatest driver of all time.
Who cares. It's all opinions anyway. Many GOATS
IYO. Others still rate Lewis GOAT. It's all opinions
@Dante-w8f Only Goat of his era. Fangio, Clark, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton.
@ Alonso has always been better than Hamilton
@@ajegelin in your opinion but 2007 goes against Alonso as it was a direct comparison between a rookie and 2x champ.
They DON'T care about Lewis. They use his car as one great massive experiment.. Toto insults him. Bono barely responds to Lewis during races. They have treated him awfully this season.
Give Lewis a good car and stopped giving he a bad car
We told you Cameron sabotaged.
Is it me... or are Mercedes not treating this like it's the final season for Lewis...
Even Ferrari did some things in the year for and with Seb😢
For years, Mercedes constructed a car that made Lewis Hamilton a dominant champion. In recent years, however, the car has fallen off. How disrespectful of LH. 🙄
How Toto didn’t fight for Lewis in 21, and his words now, to hell with him. I pray LH wins multiple championships with Ferrari. Better yet, let those wins be reason merc will not win a championship anytime soon
Offering him a weak contract to force him to retire is disrespectful. No way in a million years did they want him going to another team
I don’t want to compare LH with DR, but the latter wasn’t even mentioned until everything was done and dusted. Why celebrate LH now while he’s still in the sport? Once he leaves Ferrari, assuming that’s his last team, then it will be a proper moment to celebrate
They all owe each other. Sure, I understand the sentiments about Lewis. At the same time, mercedes has made it possible for him to win another 6 wdc's. Without lewis, Rosberg would have been a multiple world champion, other drivers would have gotten a chance at mercedes and would have won instead of lewis. The mercedes car was that good, with or without Lewis.
Firstly, you can say this about any driver who wins a championship, because F1 is a team sport-no one can win on their own. And I didn’t see people have such problem with other greats like Senna or Schumacher. Secondly, you really underestimate what Lewis contributed to those cars. Toto himself mentioned in an interview two or three years ago how Lewis helped the team improve the 2018 car during pre-season tests.
Thank you Cam
I enjoyed that! Great discussion. Mercedes will miss Lewis when he's gone. That's obvious. He's a superstar. It's as simple as that. Lewis will get his flowers at Ferrari. Forza Ferrari 😎
Sad for ferrari
If I were to put Cameron's emotions and position on the matter succinctly it is simply this; Lewis fans would feel okay with Mercedes and this departure if it all didn't feel icky and open to too many interpretations. This departure doesn't feel amicable in anyway.
Mercedes should be thankful for the 7 championship titles they won with lewis. Also thank Nikki lauder for wooing Lewis to Mercedes to begin with. Toto is acting like hes not bothered lewis is moving teams but wat did he expect. The engineers tried to pull the im alot smarter than u card and u dont know wat ur talking about wen he was talking abt issues with the rear end. lewis drives the car and its his job to relay feedback of certain characteristics how the vehicle behaves. It seems that was the beginning of relationship going sour..
Shez: “Horner…. Coming out with telemetry…humiliating himself and Toto didn’t come out anywhere near that.”
Toto: “Oh I see you missed the documents I printed out, have you checked your email?”
I'm glad to see Baxty sitting comfy and not on a bench 😂
The number one reason for not having a three week hiatus is this absolute fodder by you, Cam. They made really good points, you did not. Sorry, but you were way out of line this time around. Don't be that polarising. I know you are a far better man than that
Toto bitter!
I agree they are not doing enough and have kind of just thrown in the towel so to speak. I think they have been disrespectful of Lewis all year. I actually think that he only had a good car for silverstone because Toto said we will win a race with Lewis this year. (Only because of the letter) and the other side of the garage uses Lewis data to get George’s car right then they change Lewis car so it’s not on par with George’s for qualifying.
This was actually confirmed too.
Love these discussions.
LH should never have stayed at Merc after he signed with Ferrari. If he couldn't quit Merc then he should not have signed with another team. Its a complete shit show now.
I don't even remember anything to celebrate Vettel's time with Red Bull when he decided to leave to Ferrari. It's always going to be a bit of an anti climax because you can't possibly do it enough justice. You can not relive those memories to the full extent. That's just life.
I'm glad he's gone to Ferrari the car they've gave Lewis since 2022 is disgraceful 🤬 Toto shot himself in the foot with a one plus one did it to himself. They don't love Lewis stop lying bro did you not hear Lewis shouting to get a response just to answer a simple question? He asked a question the same question 3 times and got ignored he had to shout 🤬
Back in 2006, Ferrari did the same with Michael Schumacher. Ok, he decided to retire, but Ferrari came out and said the same things. Raikkonen was the future. And Ferrari said that Michael was reaching the end of his career, and was starting to lose his edge. I remember that well. With the coming of Raikkonen and Alonso. I think it's natural. I don't think Toto was being disrespectful. I love Lewis. And hate to hear these things. But I do think that Lewis has probably lost his edge. It's a natural progression I'm afraid.
I hope that Camerons position is of being Devils Advocate .... If not he needs help with his mental health.... And does#44 feel that way
toto called lulu joe biden like lol
Mercedes does not owe anything to Lewis Hamilton this is Formula One not tiddlywinks. Mercedes-Benz Lewis Hamilton a super fast car with which he won six titles with they don't have anything else.
Everything that their doing with Lewis right now is for them they’re benefiting from all the press content and images they post of Lewis they benefit from Lewis appearing places Hamilton isn’t gaining anything from what you guys claim they’re doing for him they haven’t done anything for him
sounds like 3 teenagers are angry for not getting a pony for the sweet 16 birthday party ... what sort of leaving party are you wishing to see??? and what stopes you to organise one ...
I wish I were a teenager. But please, continue
Thank you Cameron! Next year I am in red!
I was watching The Modern Day Jesus Christ Superstar.
You can't be mad at toto for speaking facts as a TEAM OWNER, plus Lewis took the decision not to tell Toto when he signed for Ferrari and that didn't sit well with toto as the season prior both told the media new contract talks will last 2 minutes
Let's just say that toto is right, the point here is to not be speaking negatively about your greatest driver and only have good positive words towards lewis.
If Lewis was walking away from F1 at the end of this year Mercedes they would probably do something more. But he's walking away from the people who made everything happen for him because Ferrari agreed to the money he was demanding. Michael Schumacher left F1 when he left Ferrari, okay he came back again. How can you not remember the end of Michael's time at Ferrari? Did you even see it? How old were you at the time?
Also, i need that v10 shirt.
It’s nice right? It’s on the bring back v10s website. Easily googled!
Objectivity wasnt here not gonna lie. Mercedes doesnt owe Lewis anything. He hasnt built that team- Schumacher has. Lewis just came in to reap the benefits. As some other comment mentioned, They could well have just as much made Rosberg a five maybe even six or seven time world champion. He was no Lewis, but he was consistent and good enough to do it. I hate to say it but you are just over-romanticizing Lewis Hamilton in this instance. And Lando fumbling the bag this year is not a proof negative for this statement, Mercedes did not have even a semblence of a competitor to face in their era of dominance. 2018 Ferrari was probably the closest they had to having one. And that barelly counts.
2017 and 2018 Ferrari challenged.....and why should that not barely count? On what basis?
Na It's not a challenge as any other driver had Mercedes were still strong throughout those years
I feel too that something is missing from team merc, it would have been nice if they told us why Lewis can´t test the Ferrari instead we hear he´s been blocked this is negative also it would be nice that GR does the testing and lewis gets the best set up so he can enjoy the last few races left but no they make his life a misery, and that´s why we can´t till he goes RED
Fact is, it’s all speculation!…. But obviously there have been too many wtf moments that warrant questioning. We will have new information come next season 🤷🏾♂️
Lewis owes Mercedes, not the other way around.
Yup… and when the going got tough Lewis called them “family”, only to throw them away like trash shortly after.
Some on here are saykng Merc and Rosberg would have been 5 time champions? Why guit a sport that you enjoyed so much from a child? How many drivers wished they could win a race or 2 in their career? Yet you win your first championship and abruptly walk away from the sport? Got pushed passed your physical, emotional and mental limits and couldn't endure another season?
Its a real pity that we wont get to see slh race against Alonso and Villanuev in similar competitive cars...they are both over hyped....
But they were the last team with porpoising🤣🤣🤣
Ffs,
Releasing his caps is them milking his brand
Good bye factory tour’s is them again putting him to work. Say something that actually celebrates him
Cameron, Hamilton is not leaving the sport, he's going to Ferrari. Now it's Ferrari's job when he leaves the sport to give him a proper wave
i can't zino is an absolute shill cam they got him he's been paid off !
No one at the team has contractual agreements beyond 2025. MB Stuttgart has given Mclaren a engine deal to 2010, they only have 33% share of the team though. Toto has been given performance targets. Toto is smoke and mirrors to make sure his 33% doesn't devalue overnight if MB Stuttgart sell up and go back to being a engine supplier (they own 100% of MB HPP)
Kneepads for Cameron for Christmas.
People always speak what is on their mind
Mercedes di build the fastest car for him for years. Where is LH love for Mercedes in his last tour for making it possible to be a 7 time champion.
I'm surprised they are doing anything after he sacked the team off that have done so much for him and given him multiple championships to go off to rivals Ferrari. ... what do you expect, seriously?
As I said before Mercedes owes him nothing. Especially after Hamilton back door Mercedes by making deals with Ferrari before telling him. But once again this is Formula 1 not tiddlywinks it's a business and they owe him nothing more they did their best with him by giving him a fantastic car which gave him six titles
To he'll with toto he said what was on his heart people
He promised me a 8th championship? 😂😂😂. Shut it LH, he’s given you 6.
THE TWO GUYS ARE SPEAKING SENSS THIS CAMERON GUY IS A LEGIT 🤡
This is not about Ferrari please
Shez is right
No one can speak to the true sentiment/thoughts of Lewis, Toto, Bono, nor anyone else on the Merc F1 team. So, I will leave that to them and keep in mind that it is not about me (or the fans necessarily) in the emotion/how they say goodbye to Lewis. The only thing that matters is what Lewis takes from those final moments with the Silver Arrows. I'm also done throwing rocks at Toto as he has to move forward just like Lewis does. However, I have no doubt that no matter how inarticulate Toto may have been at times, he has been apprehensive about the inevitability of this moment with Lewis for years (made worse by not enabling Lewis to get his 8TH). I don't believe (understand and respect those who disagree) that Merc F1 has been at any point this season working to actively/consciously sabotage Lewis. Not saying it is impossible, but I (personally) would need to see more definitive evidence (versus the team just messing things up and naturally because George is staying so he gets the more stable car options). Lewis has ultimately taken ownership of his own missteps this season as well. I will always be supportive of Merc F1 (especially excited for Kimi next year), but I'm a Lewis fan and as of 2025 Ferrari will be my F1 team to support.
I think Shez got this right....
Very well argued - sorry Cam, your points were outpointed.
For those who bought a Mercedes because of Lewis, how many of them will be buying a Ferrari?
So its just a video about Cam asking Merc to celebrate Lewis which are will when they are drowning?? They are there to win, lewis is not going on a notice period job, he wants to win races and is disappointed when he isnt. There is nothing more ingenious than celebrating when you are losing just because you have to. They are champions for 8 years, we just put some respect on Mercedes name as well
Am I mistaken? Wasn''t the 1+1 contract Lewis' idea, with a proviso that if they didn't have the machinery he could leave? Am I wrong? If I'm not, what the hec is Toto on about if not hubris? Love the chat guys. Do you lot get together beforehand, chat and say; Look, I'm gonna be the contrarian, your the challenger and then we'll get this response? Lot of Q's in there😂😂 By the way, the fans will support good work from a team but the driver, being the front of the team gets the praise/flack. We'll support Merc if they're worthy. I support Lewis, good or bad, because he is worthy and not a Dick Dastardly😂I hate - strong word - Horner but appreciate Max the driver, DD or not.🤭 I don't support Red Bull.
Shakedown, ftw!!
Ches is right here.
😂❤
Referring to Lewis's mental sharpness is racist. Its like Wolff is playing into that old (and wrong) trope and stereotype of the less intelligent black man. Wolff would never question the mental capacity/sharpness of a white driver. And i agree with Cameron, Merc are completely disrespecting Lewis.
what??? Lewis made Mercedes Benz Bigger..... SUUUIIII.....
Toto is not wrong.
Lewis is walking away from the man, the team that has given him everything he has in life. Lewis is going to another team because Mercedes won't pay him the money he thinks is worth. And frankly he's done nothing since the end of 2021 of any value to Mercedes except winge and complain about how awful the car is. Lewis doesn't have to leave the team he's choosing to. And, he's going because of the money. That's it. Without Mercedes Lewis wouldn't have achieved anything, maybe a handful of race wins. Life will go on at Mercedes.
V10 or whatever yòur name is, some relationships come to an end with the choice of words being Gourded , think of Vettel, Schumacher, and many other drivers , they are no longer driving but their teams continue to be happy being associated with them. Will Lewis continue with that ambilical cord, i doubt it.
Lewis Hamilton want to go now.
Lol I am loving the tearing apart of Lewis and Mercedes.
Three years of absolute pi$$ poor engineering and performance all around. "My team doesn't make mistakes". I don't care 1 iota, not one. They've been poor and I'm very glad they both have been buried by McClaren, Red Bull and Ferrari.
Did you listen to mama Cameron again?
Lewis owes far more to Mercedes than Mercedes owes to Lewis. Anybody better than Lando Norris could have won those titles.
My grandmother blah blah....ifs buts 😂😂
@@terryasamoah4874okay kid grow up, liking your own comment
@@Sam-rl5hs huh
Behave Cameron. You r better than this.