Hamilton, "raw", "honest", nope ! He's very much the PR offices' dream. Max is the only driver at the moment who speaks his mind and shows his true emotions. He's hated for it, but only by those that really hate to see him winning. So many fake personalities in F1 and fans just eat it up. People are so blinkered. Are people blind or just stupid?
That's a lie!! I've never heard anyone complain about how raw Max is, the only complaint it how dirty he drives. Max and Lewis are the only driver on the grid that speak their minds. Go do some homework and come back.
Blinkered by the favorite Rupert Murdoch "news" channel and others, I don't have a mind of my own, so just lets make some money, by being a parrot, channels! Luckily Cammaron hsd a mind of his own so he is not part of it!
I am Dutch and I know that most Dutch people like Lando! But the differents between the English and the Dutch is that we will support Lando up to 2 meters of the finishline so he has to do the last 2 m by himself to beat Max. The English already start booing Max a week befor the race!
"Ah, the man has already checked out, let him be." How pathetic is that? Defending Hamilton for being unprofessional to the highest degree... "I just want to go away and sit on the beach." That's a slap in the face of every aspiring talent who'd give everything to get to drive an F1 car. Unbelievable, what the boys and girls in Brackley and Brixworth have to put up with. If you want to see how how true professionals conduct themselves with dignity then look at the final three races after Michael Schumacher announced his retirement. Clearly no "checking out" there. Or Carlos Sainz, who is still putting in commendable performances after being kicked to the curb for this guy.
@@daveydaves9361 The MOST HAM ever won was 11 races in one season - even WITH those $100 mil rocketships - Max won 15 and 19 consecutively - in a cost-cap car Max's ceiling STARTS above HAM's - think about it.
@@Vic-f6kpeople are morons i have been following f1 since Michael started driving and Max is by far the best driver i have ever seen. My most fav driver will always be Senna tho
He has been like this his entire career though, even at his peak he loves a good moan. It's his way of clearing the decks. Allegedly he's an engineers dream, because they get clear and consistent feedback on where they're going wrong, so who really cares whether he's complaining as long as he's winning. It's the winning bit that's missing right now (2 race wins accounted for)
@@JS-ll8nk The reason i make that statement is because Cam say he is a Ham fan. people can change who they want to cheer for, I don't care. Max and Lewis had not gone head to head from the robbed Hamilton in 2021. Merc has not made a car to compete with Max, so how can you say Max is better than hamilton or the other way around when they are not even competing against each other? you can clearly say Max is better than Lando, because they have been going at it for most of the year and you can clearly see who is better.
@@ricky_876 they went head to head in 2021 and Hamilton lost, if not for Lewis crashing max out in silverstone and bottas going bowling in Hungary then Abu Dhabi would have been irrelevant.
Don’t think so. I’m a Max fan but have great respect for Lewis too. It is possible. Actually it is more reasonable to respect the toughest opponent of your driver than hate him…
Lewis in the GOAT convo because of what’s he achieved but Nico Rosberg beat him in equal machine to championship. No teammates of Michael Schumacher's or Max V has ever beaten them to an F1 championship. That’s simply lovely; I’d tell you that
5:30 mate? atleast half the season? he had the fastest car for the first 6 races and thats it. Out of those he DNF'd on a mech issue in australia. Comeon now
Next you ll be saying maxes cars slower then the merc. Call a spade a spade. since 22 Rb have basically been the faster car by a country mile. Its only this year, after the races max won (easily) that mcclaren have been the fastest. However red bull over all are still the second fastest on average (3rd at most) throughout the season. Max isn't doing what LH did last year in that pile of junk when he come 3rd overall in the championship. Yes the Redbull isn't as winning races as easy but doesn't mean its all of a sudden a slow midfield car for e.g
@@t8365 damn, max living in LH fans' heads rent free. I never said a word about lewis. This was just about max. I dont wanna kick a man while he's down, Its just downright sad to see LH fans in this shape, grasping for straws because their driver is underperforming heavily. Just downright sad.
@kaekayyy2554 maybe for them. Do they even have the ability to like or support any other driver 🤔. Who knows 🤷♂️ Max is doing a great job, it's lando who is been disappointing this season with such a fast car. Its irrelevant that you didn't mention LH. Im using LH as an example of someone outperforming a car that is way way slower than that red bull this year . I shouldn't have to really but when you try and rationalise with ppl that only have the memory of the current year for.e.g. its hard to get a point across . Therefore I use e.g from previous years If they have done comparable things, It's as simple as that.
@@t8365 same thing with max in 2020 where he almost beat bottas while they had a significant pace advantage, max even won 2 races that season. Another thing id like to add is that no driver can outperform the car. Yes lewis was better than george that year, but he was strictly within the confines of what that car could do that year (the car was better in 2023 than it has been in 24') ....but this doesnt excuse the several moments he had throughout the season in 23'...he failed to get in q3 like 3-4 times when russell did , had questionable incidents during races (monza, vegas, japan...AND DO NOT get me started on qatar...)...and finally Abu dhabi, where his incident with gasly (LH's fault predominantly) as well as a pathetic attempt at a pass on tsunoda cost him that race as well. I would say his 2023 effort is a lot more flawed than you make it out to be as he could have easily gotten past perez in the standings, but due to his inconsistencies and shoddy antics...he failed to do so.
Dunno what baxty is waffling on about with does not matter what level the car is at, but pretty much Max had one season of having a similarly dominant Red Bull like Mercedes had for years. Yet I know only one that has a 10 race winstreak. So...no, Lewis' prime is not at the level Max is playing the game. It goes back to floor raising vs ceiling raising....and floor raisers are simply better.
True that... No one has been as consistently brilliant as Max has been since 2021. If you really try you might find 3 or 4 weekends where he could have done better with the car he had... In over 75 GP... No one and definitely not Lewis has ever performed this good for this long...
The things Lando lacks: Starts, mistakes, overtaking, defending, driving and tire strategy in the wet. That’s a lot of things, despite having great pace.
I don't understand Lewis Hamilton had the best car beforeforsix of us seven championships. So why do people call him the GOAT? Wouldn't it be from an era that it was at least competitive when multiple teams could win a race in a given year that we would find the best ever? I would never think Hamilton is the GOAT!
Hamilton was also beaten in his prime in the same car by his teammate. Rosberg was also a great driver, equal of Hamilton. Both of them drove to/over the limit against each other but the fact that Hamilton was beaten by his teammate says a lot regarding where he stands in the pantheon of greats.
Setup, Car not behaving well in the rain. There are so many factors as to why he didn’t perform in Brazil also Lewis has had many great wet weather drives having one bad wet race doesn’t change from your short memories
@@bahamas3125 heard that Russell has got the better upgrades although i don’t know that to be true Russell got the setup right on the weekend probably i don’t know i don’t work for Mercedes
@@bahamas3125watch 2008 Silverstone. After you've watched it let it sink in that that is his second year on F1. He knows how to race in the rain, clear to see when having the confidence in the car, and the correct car set up his an elite wet weather driver.
It's not what Lando's missing, it's what he keeps doing, MISTAKES over & over!! He has a horse shoe up his arse otherwise he'd be way behind Max on points. Max had 2021 & he took it despite not having the best car half the season. If Lewis or Alonso were driving 2024 McLaren they'd up there with Max on points if not more.
26:32 lando’s only chance at a championship is to wait out Max getting tired of winning and moving to another sport. He had the faster car, and he showed it’s not just the car it’s also the driver. Lando is right,he had a lot of luck to get as high as he was, but what Max does isn’t luck, it’s skilll…
This is Lewis his' job, drive the car. But Lewis wants to get out because the car is not good enough. Great for his fans and his employer. Lewis owes almost everything to Mercedes. Lewis has been lucky to be in the best car for so long. It's not like he has the right to the best car. Best car happy and lesser car I want to quit. That sounds like diva behavior to me. It's your job Lewis, drive the car good or bad. If you don't want that then go make clothes or be a rapper.
So Hamilton was in his prima and on another level when Bottas was in the other Mercedes? Why wasn't he in his prime against Rosberg? Still too young? You guys drift so far away from what we see, into baseless speculation and fantasy. No one who'd look at Hamilton's performances of the past 3 seasons only will say "that's a future world champion there" if it was by a young driver.
When are you going to realise? Hamilton is a has-been. Merc won 8 championships, do you really think they would keep winning them? No!! I personally will be glad when he retires! As sick of hearing his name. He does nothing but winge.👎🤬
Lulu was saying farewell because Merc are rotating crews for the last 3 races, so it was the last time he worked with that particular crew. Let’s chllax…
Completely agree with Baxty's thoughts on Lando Norris/McLaren's current status in terms of the WDC at this point in time. I also remember my line of thinking/how I typically thought and viewed myself in the world when I was Lando's age, so I'll reserve any further determinations on Lando until next year as he does have time to come to grow/understand. Don't know what Cameron is specifically looking for from Lewis and I can only speak for myself...stay engaged, put in the work, and walk away knowing that you didn't leave anything on the track Lewis (as it looks like he is working on doing) as that is all I'm looking for at this point. Lewis feeling like "f$%k it" after Brazil made perfect sense to me, him saying it out loud made perfect sense to me (not going to judge him on that), but most importantly Lewis showing up to Vegas, acknowledging the elephant in the room but recommitting to a strong focus/finish(s) is the more important thing.
Whether Lando is making making more mistakes or not - he is😂- I think his own team destroyed his confidence. The moment Maclaren told him to give up position to Piastri and many other bad team calls, I feel he got psychologically damaged by that and what might've been a few small mistakes turned into bigger ones, especially his start nemesis. Lewis too has been psychologically damaged by his 3 yr down experience and as a result making more mistakes. As usual, great chat Cam, Baxty, Chez; Thank you👍
2017, 2018 season and has won a wdc at 2008 with Ferrari winning the constructors Max is in his prime where as Lewis is 39 it’s like comparing Ronaldo to Haaland right now
Lando is a very fast, but also weirdly insecure or too optimistic about himself in interviews. He is not as mentally strong as Max yet, but he might still grow in the future. He has some work cut out for himself, to me it seemed this season that Lando didnt want to fight for the championship, while Max was fighting back hard.
I think the Lewis thing is so easily explained by situational factors the only rational thing to do is reserve judgment. He can't get to grips with the car and he's not incentivised to do so. He's worn out by Mercedes issues and he's mentally checked out. When the weather is cool and the rear comes to life, he's clearly still extremely quick. Silverstone and Spa demonstrate that, and dare I say it he looks fast this weekend again in wintery conditions. I bet he can't wait to get out of there and I can't wait either, so we can put this conversation to bed one way or another.
I am not a fan of MBS, but I think after the death of his son in a car accident in March 2023, he went off a cliff. He already had a dubious way of governing the FIA before that, but he surely became reckless after that.
Why is it for some such a problem to just say that Lewis is over his prime? He is only human. He has enormous problems with adapting to this kind of ground effect cars. If you give him a, for his driving style, more suitable car, he will perfrom, but never at the same level he has been. Just realastic. It will not be different next year with Ferrari. Charles is at his prime in a car type which just is less suited for a late braker as Lewis. So next year will be even harder for him to beat his team mate. Charles is a category better than George
I’m going to come to Lewis’ defence here. - On age: remember when Alonso got checked, and it turned out he (then) was a 42-year old in a 35-year old body? If the sly old fox can do it, I’m sure Lewis has taken good care of himself as well. - On leaving Mercedes: remember that this is quite an issue. Lewis isn’t part of strategic development anymore. He therefore lost his leadership role in the team. The car isn’t being developed anymore towards his needs and preferences. Strategy will likely not favour him. He isn’t the prime candidate for upgrades. In other words: he’s pretty isolated in that team right now, and it shows that he feels that. I can imagine it tastes quite bitter, after having been an integral part of that team for so many years. … Now is Lewis one of the goats? Of course he is. And of course folks have thrown the same excuses at him as they later threw at Max: “nah, he can only win in a dominant car, blah blah.” And yes, in a sport where it’s 70% car and 30% driver (you can argue about the percentages), a dominant car has helped him. Still: you need to stay consistent, you still need to deal with the inevitable curve balls that the sport will fling your way. You still need to get those points in the bag. … Having said that, I’m very curious about 2025. Lewis in a Ferrari, an exciting prospect! I do foresee some problems though: Charles isn’t going to just roll over and concede his alpha position in the team. Just like I reckon that Piastri, who was already reluctant to give in to team orders this year, will be a problem for Lando next year. Two alphas at Ferrari and two alphas at McLaren… interesting times indeed.
Truly great drivers get the best out of a bad car. Lewis's peak was the peak of the car he was driving. No benchmark posts 2016 because Bottas was not brought in to win the drivers championship. He's unhappy because he can't compete without the absolute best car.
Lewis told Mercedes that the no pod was a bad idea and the route that they’re going down will be disastrous for the car but George Russell liked it so they went with making the car favorable to what George Russell likes and that’s why the car is so bad Now after the break, Lewis gave them a full rundown of what was wrong with the car and why it was so slow and bad handling however, for the next free races, they have changed the car to the Lewis Hamilton Speck everything that he said was wrong with the car they have now reverted to that what is that telling you?
Never ever did I hear Michael Schumacher give up or come on the radio wanting to get out the car and give up. Lewis is a great racing driver, but stop putting on the same levels as a Schumacher or senna or a fangio or a Clark he's below all of them
I think it's pretty disgraceful what Hamilton has been doing this season yeah the car has been topnotch; but a driver like him should have been able to get more out of it. When Alonso said :this guy only knows how to drive when he starts first" I didn't agree with him, but seeing the previous and current season; I think Alonso was right. I find it very disappointing to see that when the going get's tough; Hamilton just gives up. I'm not so sure he will be able to reignite his flame at Ferrari if this is how he deals with set backs.
Norris could beat Max if he has a car that is second a lap quicker over the course of a whole season, if it is within halve a second he would have his hands full with Max. Could he beat Piastri though, as Piastri will be entering his 3rd season and keeps getting stronger the more experience he has. That is the real question. Norris has the speed, and Piastri has the racecraft. As soon as Piastri is up to speed, it will be game over for Norris. Also curious to see how Lewis and Charles will do against each other. As I rate Charles a stonger driver than Rosberg. Charles biggest issue is consistency. He makes to many mistakes. And Lewis kinda already lost against Russel.. I think Russel is underrated. But for a 100 million a year, I would not care where I ended on the grid. I would happily drive my rounds dead last every single race... Hahahhaha.
Lewis sounds somewhat depressive/burned out. Not surprising after so many years of pressure with a less performing car and the sour relation with Toto. I expect we will see another person in the Ferrari after a good rest.
What happened to Baxty's response to the #44 comment when Baxty said "No , not saying He didnot want to drive but was saying farewell to the pitstop team that was supposedly in rotation "... What a load of Bull Feathers .... And we are supposed to take this #44 diehards take on the comments of anyone ....Ahh ha ha ha... and no one picked him up on it .... Refreshing that he was wimping out of a challenge?... Wow !! some 7 time champ we have got there .... maybe a few more "salutes" of the unfortunate kind will brighten him up...I refer to his social media posts a few years ago .... Disgusting
How much motorsport is there anyway, besides the odd kid with a super wealthy dad? Nothing. MBS is typical for someone from that area, an absolute disrespect for the infidel. Buying respect with oil$ will never work.
As a fellow Max fan, you are 100% right. He has his moments where when he feels he can’t win the race anymore he turns into Mad Max and rage mode gets activated, but that’s also why I love him. His drive to win is next level
You have no idea They are tampering with his car as George Russell has to come ahead of him for the team as the team has lost vast amount of shares as I told you before and now it seems like they haven’t got a driver that can deliver the championship so the rest of the shareholders And sponsors are leaving Mercedes Now because of George Russell, they have reached their limit in cost cap which means no more development unless they have already worked on the car previously or Part or had it on the car rather No, Las Vegas is a brand new track. Not many drivers know it. That’s when Lewis is shines. so let’s see what happens in Las Vegas and then I want to hear you come on and if he beats your boy, give him his props put some respect on his name
That's true, if lando had the mclaren version of an rb19 and max had a red bull equivalent of a 2022 mclaren then lando could possibly beat him. However that is an extreme case and it's not fair at all, in equal cars max wins easily.
Doesn't need to be that much of an advantage. He won't beat Verstappen in equal cars but F1 usually has a fastest car, nothing wrong with beating the best driver with the best car, that is and has often been what F1 is too. Button, Hakkinen, Hill, Mansell, Piquet, they have all done it.
@@Cameron-Cc Hey you do you. It's your channel. I'm not a native speaker but I sometimes forgot the first half of your question when you get to the second half. Glgl
Lewis needs to have a decent car and motivation …I believe next year it will be great with: MAX vs LEWIS vs CHARLES !!!! Thats is…if Max doesn’t leave f1…I won’t be surprised if he stops end of this season. I hope not…🙏
Such fan boy nonesense this. A driver doesn't make the biggest difference. If Norris was in a Redbull or McLaren and Max was in a Merc, Norris would beat Max. You can't say Norris will never beat Max.
Lando Norris can still win the championship, but it would require a perfect storm, Lando maintaining his momentum and Max facing issues like DNFs or penalties. F1 has seen wild turnarounds before like 2007 and 2010. If anyone can capitalise its Lando. Never say never Cam!
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Hamilton, "raw", "honest", nope ! He's very much the PR offices' dream.
Max is the only driver at the moment who speaks his mind and shows his true emotions. He's hated for it, but only by those that really hate to see him winning.
So many fake personalities in F1 and fans just eat it up. People are so blinkered. Are people blind or just stupid?
That's a lie!! I've never heard anyone complain about how raw Max is, the only complaint it how dirty he drives. Max and Lewis are the only driver on the grid that speak their minds. Go do some homework and come back.
@@ricky_876 dirty he drives? He drives to win....be glad , after decades of parades
Blinkered by the favorite Rupert Murdoch "news" channel and others, I don't have a mind of my own, so just lets make some money, by being a parrot, channels!
Luckily Cammaron hsd a mind of his own so he is not part of it!
Lol your last sentence nice throwback to Montoya😊😅
@@actie-reactiemore Silverstone will be worth his dirty driving
I am Dutch and I know that most Dutch people like Lando! But the differents between the English and the Dutch is that we will support Lando up to 2 meters of the finishline so he has to do the last 2 m by himself to beat Max.
The English already start booing Max a week befor the race!
There's nothing wrong with some booing
"Ah, the man has already checked out, let him be." How pathetic is that? Defending Hamilton for being unprofessional to the highest degree... "I just want to go away and sit on the beach." That's a slap in the face of every aspiring talent who'd give everything to get to drive an F1 car. Unbelievable, what the boys and girls in Brackley and Brixworth have to put up with.
If you want to see how how true professionals conduct themselves with dignity then look at the final three races after Michael Schumacher announced his retirement. Clearly no "checking out" there. Or Carlos Sainz, who is still putting in commendable performances after being kicked to the curb for this guy.
Cam doesn’t sugar coat things. He speaks truth and that’s why Cam is the BEST
Baxty the highest ceiling weve ever seen is max verstappens ceiling. Not hamilton
recency Bias mate!
@daveydaves9361 nostalgia bias mate
@@daveydaves9361 The MOST HAM ever won was 11 races in one season - even WITH those $100 mil rocketships - Max won 15 and 19 consecutively - in a cost-cap car
Max's ceiling STARTS above HAM's - think about it.
@@Vic-f6kpeople are morons i have been following f1 since Michael started driving and Max is by far the best driver i have ever seen.
My most fav driver will always be Senna tho
@@Vic-f6kno competition- Ferrari & Seb were on Mercedes tail
Baxty dont be a tool bud. If lewis was ‘sooo real’ he would just stop. He is an emotional drama lama. Has nothing to do with reality. What a joke.
He has been like this his entire career though, even at his peak he loves a good moan. It's his way of clearing the decks. Allegedly he's an engineers dream, because they get clear and consistent feedback on where they're going wrong, so who really cares whether he's complaining as long as he's winning. It's the winning bit that's missing right now (2 race wins accounted for)
Sounds to me Cam is slowly becoming a Max fan, and throwing Lewis to the side like Toto lol
People can support both drivers, if you truly care about excellence then you can easily support multiple drivers.
Open your eyes man. It’s just being objective and seeing things for what they are. Max is clearly better than Lewis.
@@JS-ll8nk The reason i make that statement is because Cam say he is a Ham fan. people can change who they want to cheer for, I don't care. Max and Lewis had not gone head to head from the robbed Hamilton in 2021. Merc has not made a car to compete with Max, so how can you say Max is better than hamilton or the other way around when they are not even competing against each other? you can clearly say Max is better than Lando, because they have been going at it for most of the year and you can clearly see who is better.
@@ricky_876 they went head to head in 2021 and Hamilton lost, if not for Lewis crashing max out in silverstone and bottas going bowling in Hungary then Abu Dhabi would have been irrelevant.
Don’t think so. I’m a Max fan but have great respect for Lewis too. It is possible. Actually it is more reasonable to respect the toughest opponent of your driver than hate him…
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Checo can't beat Max,Lando can't beat Max the list go on and on.......
Oh the humanity!
Lewis in the GOAT convo because of what’s he achieved but Nico Rosberg beat him in equal machine to championship. No teammates of Michael Schumacher's or Max V has ever beaten them to an F1 championship. That’s simply lovely; I’d tell you that
Rosberg was better than any teammate either of then had & Lewis had terrible luck with reliability that year. Rosberg is terribly underrated!
5:30 mate? atleast half the season? he had the fastest car for the first 6 races and thats it. Out of those he DNF'd on a mech issue in australia. Comeon now
I literally said the same thing. Redbull are bloody 3rd solely bc of max! How is this half the season narrative been solidified.
Next you ll be saying maxes cars slower then the merc. Call a spade a spade.
since 22 Rb have basically been the faster car by a country mile. Its only this year, after the races max won (easily) that mcclaren have been the fastest. However red bull over all are still the second fastest on average (3rd at most) throughout the season.
Max isn't doing what LH did last year in that pile of junk when he come 3rd overall in the championship.
Yes the Redbull isn't as winning races as easy but doesn't mean its all of a sudden a slow midfield car for e.g
@@t8365 damn, max living in LH fans' heads rent free. I never said a word about lewis. This was just about max. I dont wanna kick a man while he's down, Its just downright sad to see LH fans in this shape, grasping for straws because their driver is underperforming heavily. Just downright sad.
@kaekayyy2554 maybe for them. Do they even have the ability to like or support any other driver 🤔. Who knows 🤷♂️
Max is doing a great job, it's lando who is been disappointing this season with such a fast car.
Its irrelevant that you didn't mention LH. Im using LH as an example of someone outperforming a car that is way way slower than that red bull this year . I shouldn't have to really but when you try and rationalise with ppl that only have the memory of the current year for.e.g. its hard to get a point across . Therefore I use e.g from previous years If they have done comparable things, It's as simple as that.
@@t8365 same thing with max in 2020 where he almost beat bottas while they had a significant pace advantage, max even won 2 races that season. Another thing id like to add is that no driver can outperform the car. Yes lewis was better than george that year, but he was strictly within the confines of what that car could do that year (the car was better in 2023 than it has been in 24') ....but this doesnt excuse the several moments he had throughout the season in 23'...he failed to get in q3 like 3-4 times when russell did , had questionable incidents during races (monza, vegas, japan...AND DO NOT get me started on qatar...)...and finally Abu dhabi, where his incident with gasly (LH's fault predominantly) as well as a pathetic attempt at a pass on tsunoda cost him that race as well. I would say his 2023 effort is a lot more flawed than you make it out to be as he could have easily gotten past perez in the standings, but due to his inconsistencies and shoddy antics...he failed to do so.
I don’t know this Baxty guy, but he’s not a racefan. He’s just a Lewis fanboy.
Dunno what baxty is waffling on about with does not matter what level the car is at, but pretty much Max had one season of having a similarly dominant Red Bull like Mercedes had for years. Yet I know only one that has a 10 race winstreak. So...no, Lewis' prime is not at the level Max is playing the game. It goes back to floor raising vs ceiling raising....and floor raisers are simply better.
True that... No one has been as consistently brilliant as Max has been since 2021. If you really try you might find 3 or 4 weekends where he could have done better with the car he had... In over 75 GP... No one and definitely not Lewis has ever performed this good for this long...
Raise the floor!!
The things Lando lacks:
Starts, mistakes, overtaking, defending, driving and tire strategy in the wet.
That’s a lot of things, despite having great pace.
I don't understand Lewis Hamilton had the best car beforeforsix of us seven championships. So why do people call him the GOAT? Wouldn't it be from an era that it was at least competitive when multiple teams could win a race in a given year that we would find the best ever? I would never think Hamilton is the GOAT!
Hamilton was also beaten in his prime in the same car by his teammate. Rosberg was also a great driver, equal of Hamilton. Both of them drove to/over the limit against each other but the fact that Hamilton was beaten by his teammate says a lot regarding where he stands in the pantheon of greats.
Only Brits call him a goat. Of course he isn’t
Lewis is good in a good car. Since rain is the great equalizer why we never see Lewis thriving then?
Setup, Car not behaving well in the rain. There are so many factors as to why he didn’t perform in Brazil also Lewis has had many great wet weather drives having one bad wet race doesn’t change from your short memories
@ true but if Russel can do it ..
@@bahamas3125 heard that Russell has got the better upgrades although i don’t know that to be true Russell got the setup right on the weekend probably i don’t know i don’t work for Mercedes
Still need confidence in ur car though
@@bahamas3125watch 2008 Silverstone. After you've watched it let it sink in that that is his second year on F1. He knows how to race in the rain, clear to see
when having the confidence in the car, and the correct car set up his an elite wet weather driver.
This episode felt really short, I enjoyed it very much. Thanks Cam, Shez and Baxty
It's not what Lando's missing, it's what he keeps doing, MISTAKES over & over!! He has a horse shoe up his arse otherwise he'd be way behind Max on points. Max had 2021 & he took it despite not having the best car half the season. If Lewis or Alonso were driving 2024 McLaren they'd up there with Max on points if not more.
LH's 2018 is Max' 2022. Max' worst championship season is 2022. Let that sink in.
26:32 lando’s only chance at a championship is to wait out Max getting tired of winning and moving to another sport. He had the faster car, and he showed it’s not just the car it’s also the driver. Lando is right,he had a lot of luck to get as high as he was, but what Max does isn’t luck, it’s skilll…
Great points Shez, no more excuses for Lando.
I think he simply doesn't have the "right stuff" to be a WC.
Lando may have missed his moment this year... Indeed
When you’re shooting for number 8 it’s hard to get up for anything other than a podium
This is Lewis his' job, drive the car.
But Lewis wants to get out because the car is not good enough.
Great for his fans and his employer. Lewis owes almost everything to Mercedes.
Lewis has been lucky to be in the best car for so long.
It's not like he has the right to the best car. Best car happy and lesser car I want to quit. That sounds like diva behavior to me.
It's your job Lewis, drive the car good or bad. If you don't want that then go make clothes or be a rapper.
Mbs is that you?
@@ritwiksen868🤔no 😜
So Hamilton was in his prima and on another level when Bottas was in the other Mercedes? Why wasn't he in his prime against Rosberg? Still too young? You guys drift so far away from what we see, into baseless speculation and fantasy. No one who'd look at Hamilton's performances of the past 3 seasons only will say "that's a future world champion there" if it was by a young driver.
When are you going to realise? Hamilton is a has-been. Merc won 8 championships, do you really think they would keep winning them? No!! I personally will be glad when he retires! As sick of hearing his name. He does nothing but winge.👎🤬
There was once a man named Muhammad Ali
F1 pays the bills for the FIA and indirectly, those 20 guys make that happen. If they back eachother, MBS should be a goner ...
Lulu was saying farewell because Merc are rotating crews for the last 3 races, so it was the last time he worked with that particular crew. Let’s chllax…
Bull Feathers ..... #44 is Done
Completely agree with Baxty's thoughts on Lando Norris/McLaren's current status in terms of the WDC at this point in time. I also remember my line of thinking/how I typically thought and viewed myself in the world when I was Lando's age, so I'll reserve any further determinations on Lando until next year as he does have time to come to grow/understand. Don't know what Cameron is specifically looking for from Lewis and I can only speak for myself...stay engaged, put in the work, and walk away knowing that you didn't leave anything on the track Lewis (as it looks like he is working on doing) as that is all I'm looking for at this point. Lewis feeling like "f$%k it" after Brazil made perfect sense to me, him saying it out loud made perfect sense to me (not going to judge him on that), but most importantly Lewis showing up to Vegas, acknowledging the elephant in the room but recommitting to a strong focus/finish(s) is the more important thing.
Whether Lando is making making more mistakes or not - he is😂- I think his own team destroyed his confidence. The moment Maclaren told him to give up position to Piastri and many other bad team calls, I feel he got psychologically damaged by that and what might've been a few small mistakes turned into bigger ones, especially his start nemesis. Lewis too has been psychologically damaged by his 3 yr down experience and as a result making more mistakes. As usual, great chat Cam, Baxty, Chez; Thank you👍
This Aged hilariously.... Hamilton's performance in Vegas is proof it's the setup and not him.
Has Lewis ever won a race in an inferior car? Or won a wdc without winning constructors? Rosberg beat him and Bottas won 10 races. Compare it to max
2017, 2018 season and has won a wdc at 2008 with Ferrari winning the constructors Max is in his prime where as Lewis is 39 it’s like comparing Ronaldo to Haaland right now
@ 2017 and 2018 the Mercedes was inferior? Lol
@@piebster1 Yeah believe what you want
Lando is a very fast, but also weirdly insecure or too optimistic about himself in interviews. He is not as mentally strong as Max yet, but he might still grow in the future. He has some work cut out for himself, to me it seemed this season that Lando didnt want to fight for the championship, while Max was fighting back hard.
I think the Lewis thing is so easily explained by situational factors the only rational thing to do is reserve judgment. He can't get to grips with the car and he's not incentivised to do so. He's worn out by Mercedes issues and he's mentally checked out. When the weather is cool and the rear comes to life, he's clearly still extremely quick. Silverstone and Spa demonstrate that, and dare I say it he looks fast this weekend again in wintery conditions.
I bet he can't wait to get out of there and I can't wait either, so we can put this conversation to bed one way or another.
I am not a fan of MBS, but I think after the death of his son in a car accident in March 2023, he went off a cliff. He already had a dubious way of governing the FIA before that, but he surely became reckless after that.
You either have the heart of a champion or not.
Why is it for some such a problem to just say that Lewis is over his prime? He is only human. He has enormous problems with adapting to this kind of ground effect cars. If you give him a, for his driving style, more suitable car, he will perfrom, but never at the same level he has been. Just realastic. It will not be different next year with Ferrari. Charles is at his prime in a car type which just is less suited for a late braker as Lewis. So next year will be even harder for him to beat his team mate. Charles is a category better than George
Germany 2019 “Retire the car”
The problem is liberty media. Too many interests are distorting the landscape.
I’m going to come to Lewis’ defence here.
- On age: remember when Alonso got checked, and it turned out he (then) was a 42-year old in a 35-year old body? If the sly old fox can do it, I’m sure Lewis has taken good care of himself as well.
- On leaving Mercedes: remember that this is quite an issue. Lewis isn’t part of strategic development anymore. He therefore lost his leadership role in the team. The car isn’t being developed anymore towards his needs and preferences. Strategy will likely not favour him. He isn’t the prime candidate for upgrades. In other words: he’s pretty isolated in that team right now, and it shows that he feels that. I can imagine it tastes quite bitter, after having been an integral part of that team for so many years.
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Now is Lewis one of the goats? Of course he is. And of course folks have thrown the same excuses at him as they later threw at Max: “nah, he can only win in a dominant car, blah blah.” And yes, in a sport where it’s 70% car and 30% driver (you can argue about the percentages), a dominant car has helped him. Still: you need to stay consistent, you still need to deal with the inevitable curve balls that the sport will fling your way. You still need to get those points in the bag.
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Having said that, I’m very curious about 2025. Lewis in a Ferrari, an exciting prospect! I do foresee some problems though: Charles isn’t going to just roll over and concede his alpha position in the team. Just like I reckon that Piastri, who was already reluctant to give in to team orders this year, will be a problem for Lando next year. Two alphas at Ferrari and two alphas at McLaren… interesting times indeed.
All three of you, what an encyclopedic knowledge. Oh, en met Lewis komt het volgend jaar wel goed.
Truly great drivers get the best out of a bad car. Lewis's peak was the peak of the car he was driving. No benchmark posts 2016 because Bottas was not brought in to win the drivers championship. He's unhappy because he can't compete without the absolute best car.
Has Mercedes' outperformance (if that's what it is) and RedBull setup to date changed the weekend's pecking order?
It's simple right, Lando will NEVER beat Max in an equal or near equal(meaning Max has a bur inferior, not otherwise) car.
Lewis the 6 time wdc is with Max, Senna, Clarke and Michael as the GOAT status
Lewis told Mercedes that the no pod was a bad idea and the route that they’re going down will be disastrous for the car but George Russell liked it so they went with making the car favorable to what George Russell likes and that’s why the car is so bad
Now after the break, Lewis gave them a full rundown of what was wrong with the car and why it was so slow and bad handling however, for the next free races, they have changed the car to the Lewis Hamilton Speck everything that he said was wrong with the car they have now reverted to that what is that telling you?
Lewis likes the victim role a bit too much when we all know what he's capable of. A bit like Lando is doing now. What's up with that?
Never ever did I hear Michael Schumacher give up or come on the radio wanting to get out the car and give up. Lewis is a great racing driver, but stop putting on the same levels as a Schumacher or senna or a fangio or a Clark he's below all of them
I think it's pretty disgraceful what Hamilton has been doing this season yeah the car has been topnotch; but a driver like him should have been able to get more out of it. When Alonso said :this guy only knows how to drive when he starts first" I didn't agree with him, but seeing the previous and current season; I think Alonso was right. I find it very disappointing to see that when the going get's tough; Hamilton just gives up. I'm not so sure he will be able to reignite his flame at Ferrari if this is how he deals with set backs.
Never say Never...
They do not remember that there GOAT lost WC from avarge racer called Rosberg how was not a briljant racer. Would had never happen to a Max.
Norris could beat Max if he has a car that is second a lap quicker over the course of a whole season, if it is within halve a second he would have his hands full with Max. Could he beat Piastri though, as Piastri will be entering his 3rd season and keeps getting stronger the more experience he has. That is the real question. Norris has the speed, and Piastri has the racecraft. As soon as Piastri is up to speed, it will be game over for Norris. Also curious to see how Lewis and Charles will do against each other. As I rate Charles a stonger driver than Rosberg. Charles biggest issue is consistency. He makes to many mistakes. And Lewis kinda already lost against Russel.. I think Russel is underrated. But for a 100 million a year, I would not care where I ended on the grid. I would happily drive my rounds dead last every single race... Hahahhaha.
Lewis sounds somewhat depressive/burned out. Not surprising after so many years of pressure with a less performing car and the sour relation with Toto. I expect we will see another person in the Ferrari after a good rest.
Agreed 💯
What happened to Baxty's response to the #44 comment when Baxty said "No , not saying He didnot want to drive but was saying farewell to the pitstop team that was supposedly in rotation "... What a load of Bull Feathers .... And we are supposed to take this #44 diehards take on the comments of anyone ....Ahh ha ha ha... and no one picked him up on it .... Refreshing that he was wimping out of a challenge?... Wow !! some 7 time champ we have got there .... maybe a few more "salutes" of the unfortunate kind will brighten him up...I refer to his social media posts a few years ago .... Disgusting
Not fair Lando could beat Max if he was in a Sauber...... yep that is about it.
Support in Africa and Middle East…. MBS spending his money there by any chance?
How much motorsport is there anyway, besides the odd kid with a super wealthy dad?
Nothing.
MBS is typical for someone from that area, an absolute disrespect for the infidel.
Buying respect with oil$ will never work.
If Hamilton wasn't english, these guys would not be worshipping him like this. He needs to thank Valteri and Timo Glock for a few wdcs
Give Lewis the car and he will win. It's so simple.
Hamilton acts shamefully and it's refreshing? LOL.
I am the biggest Max fan, but Max has dialed out in a hopeless race once or twice...he just goes a bit loopy
As a fellow Max fan, you are 100% right. He has his moments where when he feels he can’t win the race anymore he turns into Mad Max and rage mode gets activated, but that’s also why I love him. His drive to win is next level
Assuming you are referring to a race like Hungary? In which he didn't dial out at all.. in fact he went for too much. Equally as bad one could argue.
@@user-pq1bb9bx4q that’s his way of dialing out, he goes over the top instead of switching off 🤷♂️
@@MrWill994 Yep agree. Makes for fun TV though.
@@user-pq1bb9bx4q oh 100%, you can’t say it’s not entertaining though often even I think it’s unnecessary, but every person/driver has their flaws
You have no idea
They are tampering with his car as George Russell has to come ahead of him for the team as the team has lost vast amount of shares as I told you before and now it seems like they haven’t got a driver that can deliver the championship so the rest of the shareholders And sponsors are leaving Mercedes
Now because of George Russell, they have reached their limit in cost cap which means no more development unless they have already worked on the car previously or Part or had it on the car rather
No, Las Vegas is a brand new track. Not many drivers know it. That’s when Lewis is shines. so let’s see what happens in Las Vegas and then I want to hear you come on and if he beats your boy, give him his props put some respect on his name
You are omniscient Drite. I defer to you
Prove it.
If Lando have an advantage like Mercedes had in the past he can beat Max.
But with egual cars,I dont think so.
That's true, if lando had the mclaren version of an rb19 and max had a red bull equivalent of a 2022 mclaren then lando could possibly beat him. However that is an extreme case and it's not fair at all, in equal cars max wins easily.
Doesn't need to be that much of an advantage. He won't beat Verstappen in equal cars but F1 usually has a fastest car, nothing wrong with beating the best driver with the best car, that is and has often been what F1 is too. Button, Hakkinen, Hill, Mansell, Piquet, they have all done it.
In equal cars, Lando is toast every single time....
The way Lewis made a come back in Vegas practises after he said he didn’t want to finished the season is crazy. #hectic 🔥
And lewis puts it in front of the grid today in fp1 and fp2😂
I like the content but his way of speaking is super tiring to listen to.
😭
I can't help it.
I've tried
@@Cameron-Cc Hey you do you. It's your channel. I'm not a native speaker but I sometimes forgot the first half of your question when you get to the second half. Glgl
Lewis needs to have a decent car and motivation …I believe next year it will be great with:
MAX vs LEWIS vs CHARLES !!!!
Thats is…if Max doesn’t leave f1…I won’t be surprised if he stops end of this season. I hope not…🙏
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Such fan boy nonesense this. A driver doesn't make
the biggest difference. If Norris was in a Redbull or McLaren and Max was in a Merc, Norris would beat Max. You can't say Norris will never beat Max.
But I can say if they were jn the same car lando will never beat max
@@shanescanlan65 True statement....
Lando Norris can still win the championship, but it would require a perfect storm, Lando maintaining his momentum and Max facing issues like DNFs or penalties. F1 has seen wild turnarounds before like 2007 and 2010. If anyone can capitalise its Lando. Never say never Cam!
Hamilton isn’t checked out, you guys are actually choosing ignorance to Toto’s sabotage & become the SkySports & F1 eco chamber or what?
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure anything else
ran out of tinfoil??
No we are only aware of the sabotaged brains of so called Lewis fans!
😂😂😂😂
Least delusional cultLH member.