HEAR Here Vintage Takamine ** Thin Pick Or Heavy Pick? ** Story: Busking In SF 1970's
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Listen to this old instrument, probably 1970's TG 001A Takamine Classical Guitar. In addition, Pick comparison and introduction to Gravity Picks.
Also playing, Martin M21 Steve Earle Custom quadruple 0 (0000)
Played into a Shure mic to a Bose S1 Plus
Recorded on an iPhone
I like bout 75mm it seems right. I bought a tacamine back in early 70s . It was a good guitar. Enjoy listening to your playing. I watch you just about every day. Thank you mam.
Thanks for watching! I am with you on the.75mm. Its got to have just enough flexibility 😀
You’re a blessing to the guitar community. 🇺🇸🌷
Thank you for the kind words ❤️
You know you've had a good life when looking back makes you chuckle. Your chuckle at the tuners groaning made me chuckle along with you. I'm just realizing different picks sound better with different songs.
It is so amazing the difference picks make. I do a lot of finger style playing so I do t use picks a lot. But when I play rhythm I commonly use the carbon guitar moose with a sticky grip. But these .77 gravity picks are winning me over today😀 the price is cheaper too (about 3$ each) I wonder now if they will break easy? We shall see.
You sound great on nylon! I like Pepe Romero by La Bella. As for your picks, I preferred the sound of the Dunlop Primetone on this demo. Reasonably priced and high quality, I have those in many shapes and sizes. The most unusual is a round tipped mandolin style Dunlop that I heard about from a video of British jazz player Martin Taylor, who favors the pick, and Tommy Emmanuel playing The Nearness of You by Hoagy Carmichael. That is some awesome duo playing worth watching.
Cool, thanks! I will check on that video. That has got to be awesome love watching anything Tommy Emmanuel 😀
I think you landed one, Ms Cindy. Solid top or not, your recording setup captures it quite well. The sustain is pretty dadgum good. Weren’t these all 16” radius? I rather hope you don’t sell it. Loved the personal story piece of this. I like a more thin pick. I do very little bluegrass, so a thinner pick works better for me. As you are well aware of, what you do with a pick, determines that. You drew a nice sound with the picking pattern using the thicker pick. Sometimes I’ll take a thin pick and use the head of it for note separation, then reverse it to strum. You’re a class act, my new friend 👍🏻
Great video, ma’am. lo and behold you mentioned the side trick on the pick at the end 😂
I think it is one of the 16 radius. I did not meassure it but it definitely has a flat feel to it. I will hang on to it for a while. We will see if it stays in the mix😀 I am running out of space in my hall of strings😀 Thanks a bunch / I always enjoy your notes ❤️
Picks are tools. There are different tools for different jobs. Experiment!
Changing picks is as effective as changing guitars, but much more cost-effective. Experiment!
PS - I love the playing on this video.
Thanks for the tips! And the kind words ❤️
I prefer holding a thinner pick but that thick one sounds really good.
Thanks for sharing ❤️
I had one but had to give it back. I'll never find one like this again.
Sorry to hear that 🫨
I like the sound of that thick pick. The .77 is a nice in-between. 🎸🎸🎸
Thanks a bunch for sharing your preference 😀
The picks I like, and use are between 1 thru 2. They are Dunlaps with texture and slightly smaller - but not the size of the small jazz picks. The (models) are Flow & Primetone sculpted. Thanks for the stories and conversation.
That prime tone dunlop is a very nice pick. It is the 1.4 and surprised me how smooth it played. But that .77 gravity got my attention😀
On my old Japanese classical guitars, DAddario’s are wonderful. I am still using Augustine’s lights for my Flamenco. For steel and electric, I like medium to heavy. I use whatever brand I grab. I miss Gretsch heavy large tear drops, haven’t seen those in eons.
Took me a lot of humming in my head- but realized the riff you you are playing is " Barcelona Nights"- Ottmar Leibert
Good job !
Thank you 😀
The Gravity 4 mm pick had that ice pick sound when it connected with the strings.🥶 I agree with you- not the best. Maybe a bass player would like them? For the last few years the guitars I play are small-body size. The one I love the most is a Martin 00. I think, along with other things, that size influences pick choice. These days, my favorite picks are the Blue Chip 35 (.88 mm or so) and the Blue Chip 30 (.77 mm or so). The 30 is available only through Steve Kaufman's website. BC picks are sooo worth the price! For certain applications, I like the V-pick Tradition UL. And my cheap picks of choice are Jim Dunlop nylon picks- .73 and .88. Those are so nice and quiet as they connect with the strings! Thanks for asking- it's fun to share about picks!
“Ice pick sound” that is the best description! That's exactly it! 😀 I purchased a blue chip and found I wasn't using it do I passed it on to a young player. They are nice and from what I heard last forever. Thanks for sharing ❤️
I just discovered Knobloch strings and they have transformed my Godin classical guitar. Great projection, no more dull sound. Specifically, they are Knobloch EDC 34.0 CX-Carbon strings. Not cheap, but highly recommend trying them.
Thanks for sharing this information. I never heard of this company before. Will check it out😀
It sounds really good I think, it sounds classical .
Thank you❤️
I like the Dunlaps pick.
I met mr Dunlop when I was attending Arc guitar luthier school. He learned to build a guitar too ( electric) he was such a nice man. Generous too. He was always bring capos, picks to class to share. He let me take home one of his personal guitars to try out He died about 5 years ago now…
Love the opening line you played in A minor. Probably one of my favorite chords. Your guitar sounded very nice too, I don't think the strings you used impacted it negatively ~ Two cents from the peanut gallery here haha :)
Hello to the welcomed “peanut gsllery” Thank you very much!❤️
I don't have a lot of experience with picks. I've settled on a black and red DAVA pick that has a nice grip. What I want to mention though is the Jim Dunlop spring loaded pick holder that attaches with double sided tape down by the heel of the neck. I find it very useful and unobtrusive.
I will check on that. Sounds like it might be a practical useful device. I have a table top spring holder. (not sure who makes it) Thanks
Don't try to put more than one pick in it. It will jam up pretty quick.
Available on Amazon but best price at Long and McQuade.
@@antipodesman2 thank you
Cindy, you could make any pic and any guitar sound sweet!! Would you consider showing us some different rhythms or techniques… ? I actually think being a good rhythm player is not as easy as one might think!
Great idea! I will try to come up with a plan
Great video! BlueChip TD45 1.1mm and Clayton Ultem .94 or whatever is around ;)
Another bluechip player. - the whatever is around made me laugh. Years ago that could be matchbook covers 😀
I find for acoustic guitar .8 is just about perfect, but when I was a beginner a large triangle thin pick was better, over time my picks have got smaller and thicker.😀
Thanks for sharing 😀
Very nice sounding classical guitar
i like the Dunlop Jazz XL 1.38 and use the rounded edge
I also like the Fender medium celluloid for more strummy stuff( i drill a small hole in the center for better grip)
Now that's a great idea - Drill a home for better grip. Thanks❤️
I’m on Work cation in St Croix USVI and playing around with these 10 picks:
Howling Monkey 2.7mm fat jazz xl Tagua nut flying saucer 4mm,
FTGP Osage orange wood
Haldu wood sculpted
Gravity acrylic axis big mini,003,
JD red plastic Jazz 3 xl,Ultex jazz 3,204 Mandolin
And one big 3mm triangular beveled mandolin pick I got from Banjo Ben’s
Wow you sound like me trying out different things. Its so much fun 😀
@@guitarnotions I can switch between the big ones and small ones now. The small ones help with accuracy. It’s about leverage or the light touch. What is that in French? Django had it. Le touché legere
I love a heavy pic myself. Blue Chip👍🏻. Apollo makes great pics of different thickness. He makes a Norman Blake pic that I love.
What style of you play with the blue chip?
TD - 50
@@michaellaverty1844 😀i meant, do you play lead guitar or rhythm? Just wonder the style most commonly played with the heavier picks. Thanks😀
@@guitarnotions mostly Rhythm but I do lead in bass runs. I love finger Style also. I play mostly roots music . Country Blues, a little bluegrass . Right now I’m learning some Eric Anderson songs.
@@michaellaverty1844 awesome thanks😀
She does have a nice tone that tak 🎸👍🏻 I like the old McPhearson’s it a triangle with a hole in the center for a better grip. The 3 angles plays a different sound of attack.
I have used those pucks they are quite versatile. 😀
Vinci electric strings were Jerry Garcia's strings of choice for many years.
That's interesting. I heard washburn absorbed the company. The machines used to wind the strings were sold off. Strings made under that name after that were made in another country. Thanks for sharing 😀
I can smell the cedar from here 😎
Acoustics are so wonder - love that wood too😀
Dunlop nylon .88s for me. I prefer a nylon pick because it doesn't do that nasty bright thing like cellulose or acrylic do. Stiff enough for note picking, pliable enough to strum without extra pick noise. I've been that way for about forty years, on nylon strings or steel. If I don't have a nylon pick in my hand it's because I'm finger pickin'.
I've also tried some Alice nylon picks and the .96 is about the same as the Dunlop .88. Got a bag of them for a couple of bucks, so one or two lifetimes supply.
The PRS pick is probably Nylon. Try a little thicker on the nylon because I really think it's the best of both worlds.
The really heavy picks seems to find their home for heavy metal lead.
Thanks for sharing! Helpful info. ❤️
Dunlop 1.5 & 88's🎸🎸🎸
Thanks again❤️
I’ve found that, the longer I’ve played, the thicker pick I like… you can still play softly, with a lighter touch, and I get a clearer tone, while playing a bit harder, or louder, I feel I can pick out individual strings much easier with a thicker pick, rather than a thin floppy one… just my preference…
The nice thing about the thicker pick is you don't get that pick sound you get with a lighter pick. But I like the pick to give a little so my go to pick is the carbon “guitar moose.” the carbon .5mm feels and sounds heavier to me. I also like it carbon .8mm. I do enjoy a heavy pick for lead and picking. Thanks for sharing 😀
I havent played a lot of different picks. But I quite like the Dunlop tortex picks. .73. I wouldnt use thicker. Im not much of a player, but love buying and playing acoustic guitars. Thats my 2 cents. Thanks for an interesting post.
I use to use the tortex pick similar mm. They held out really nice. Thanks for watching😀
No disrespect, but, when you say you thought you might have paid too much, you've nailed the issue. Which is that there are two values for a guitar. What the market determines, and its value to you. The trick is to learn not to confuse the two, or become a
brand-slave. Interestingly, part of what drives the vintage high-price guitar market is 'look what at I've got', rather than 'look at how it plays'.
I've got two Taks, same series, bought new in 2010. Both solid tops, one an electro cutaway, the other not. Which one, I noticed, is an exact millimetric repro of the classic Torres guitar, on which the majority of subsequent guitars were based.
Very well stated. “Market value and value to you” my problem is what I value in a guitar can change over time. If I choose to sell it to get something else then I hope I was right about the market value. 😀 thanks for sharing your thought!❤️
@@guitarnotions Excellent reply, as ever. Your selection of guitars is unparalleled on YT, and your playing, stories, and travels make for an absorbing, entertaining and informative experience. So thank you.
Loved this video have recently started following you loved the first tune you played what is the name of that arrangement sounds lovely Also love using Jim Dunlop 0.43m plectrum 🎸
Thanks so much for spending time listening. I don't have a name as I was just making it up as I went along. But the rifs are traditional Spanish guitar runs that I have heard in the past. I met Mr Dunlap. I attended a luthier school and he joined as well. If I remember right he built an electric guitar. He was a very nice and generous man. Thanks 😮again ❤️
I prefer a thin, but very hard pick, and I always use the rounded side. I've tried the pointy end a few times but it feels too strange for me. Plus I like the fuller sound with the round edge. I think picks do, to a certain degree make a slight difference in a guitars tone. Try every pick you can get your hands on, eventually you'll find a keeper. Unless yer in Great Britain, then you'd have to try plectrums, lol ! Sláinte
Thanks for sharing! Plectrums it is🤣 ❤️
A SLIGHT difference. Are you serious? Pick choice makes a HUGE difference in tone.
I agree about the 4mm pick and love Gravity. That’s what Gypsy Jazzers use! The 2mm small triangle acrylic with the hole in the middle is my go to with the d28 but to quote Brian Sutton, “this is my EQ” as he grabs a pile for variety. Jazz 3 is my favorite shape. The mandolin picks are cool sounding. Wigan brand 1.5 mm is a great bluegrass pick, and my mellow acoustic favorite is wood. I file them to the correct shape.A small mando pick is good on electric.
I am really liking that .77 pick. I am going to try out for a while. It surprised me it has just the flexibility that I like with not pick sound. I wonder if it will break easy. We shall see. Thanks so much❤️
@@guitarnotions just strings is having a sale on prime tone picks,check out the different types of
I have a Tone Slab 1.3mm pick I think is the thickest I have ever used. For strumming, I prefer a thinner pick around .73mm like a Dunlop Toltex. I’m trying to get used to the thicker pick for flat picking.
I do like the dunlop prime tone 1.4 mm I showed. Its thick but not too thick. But when its all said and done I gravitate to a more medium style 😀
My preference is fingerstyle but when I pick with one it is usually a medium dunlop.
Thanks😀
Got a bunch of pickboy 1.0 mm and no complaints, saw this and ordered some more. They disappear sometimes- I think more if trying to improve finger picking
I leave picks everywhere🤣 like rabbit pellets.
is it weird to say I don't generally like picks? how many guitars do you own? my thrift shop classical was 25 dollars and I like it a lot.
Try a light or medium pick and use it on its side ,I use a thick pick for jazz but I do prefer a thumb pick.
Thanks for sharing - I agree also on the side picking. I like the sound and the way the rounder edge moves over the string. 😀
I like medium pics the best
Thanks for the input 😀
Guitar sounded swell over the “wire”. Wondered about the fretboard. It looked like it had very deep grooves in it?
Fretboard and frets have very little wear. The darkness on the board is figuring not grooves in the wood.
I gravitate to the Dunlop shure grip picks. Don't think I'd use a #4 real thick pic, but sure sounds nice on that Martin.🎸🎸🎸
Thanks again For sharing. Note: I love your channel 😀
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@@guitarnotions LOL ! ! ! Thanks much !
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I’d pat a couple of hundred dollars for a guitar that sounded that good
Thanks❤️
Are Takamines good guitars? Do they have a particular sound or feature they are known for? I know they are made in Japan I think…
Yes Takamine guitars are very nice guitars. I tend to like the older ones but the new are good but play them first. They have an awesome pickup that's in the high end guitars “CTB4 II preamp” also known as cool tube. Check out the pro series
What was the second guitar? I like softer picks for strumming and the hard ones when I’m trying to play doc Watson type songs. All being played poorly by me, ha! I like the black mountain thumb picks
That's a Martin M21. Its a quadruple 0 thanks for Sharing and listening in. 😀
Well, Hughie got comfy when he heard you play. Guess he likes the Takamine! 🐕🦺😂 Would love to compare the current string gs to a new set just to see if there’s a difference. It’s possible the vintage strings are past their prime even if they were inside the original package all these years. They probably have degraded a bit and aren’t as fresh as they once were. Or maybe we would find out it’s the guitar itself if a newer set sounds the same as these, lol. But it still sounds lovely overall as nylons go. It would make a lovely guitar for someone if you’re not looking to keep it for yourself.
I never tried a super thick pick before beyond a 2mm. I’ve seen those Gravity picks. I know electric players who swear by acrylic picks from Gravity. Also VPicks. The 4mm is probably better suited on electric where you won’t hear that sharp tinny sound and the additional pick noise through the amp the same way. Or might be better if it was more rounded or had a different bevel.
I generally like different picks and gauges for different jobs. I typically use .96 for a mix of strumming and picking, 1.14 for picking. But sometimes I use super light gauge for super fast picking (as long as they don’t make that annoying clicking noise, lol), or heavier than 1.14 if I really have to dig in extra deep to pick hard and fast. If something doesn’t feel right, I try another pick until I know which one will work best for the job. It makes me a more accurate and well-rounded player. I’m no prodigy, but it’s helps. It’s like a carpenter knowing which size hammer or drill bit to select.
- Dunlop Gator Grips and the tortoise shell looking ones are among my faves. The GatorGrips are slightly smaller than most standard sized picks while not being nearly as small as Jazz III, so they are just right for my little stubby fingers, lol. They are also a bit textured and don’t slip out of my fingers.
- Another brand I use is AcoustikAttak. Someone got me a gift of a variety pack a few years ago. In fact, their Stealth XL is my favorite for picking out individual notes like melodies and lead lines (and arguably the most comfortable given what I’ll add below about my thumb). In fact, each pick seems to last me nearly a year if not more because the points stay pointy enough to still be plenty accurate without wearing easily. They also have a bunch of fun picks that create interesting effects like making six string sound more like a 12 string. Go check out their stuff. You can often get a considerable discount on the first order by joining their list or find promo codes by searching Google. If you want some unique tones and percussion effects, give their variety packs a try!
- I also enjoy Rombo picks, which are also super durable like AcoustikAttak. Rombo picks are made in and get shipped from Germany. I have some variety packs someone gifted me. I have found some favorites and others I end up using and experimenting with. They try to make suggestions about which specific picks are suitable for this or that, but I find that it’s easier to try them myself. Like I wasn’t a fan of using one pick they suggested using on guitar, but I loved it for my ukulele. Overall, this husband-wife duo practically do everything themselves short of the manufacturing (and they are even heavily involved in every step) - they design everything meticulously, respond to customers, pack orders themselves, mail the stuff, etc.
I am in the rare category of having a hitchhiker’s thumb. That makes a lot of picks uncomfortable or occasionally even painful because I can’t really hold it at the tip of my thumb. I grip it between my pad closer to my thumb joint instead. That’s why those Stealth XL picks are the most comfortable with the divot and a hair of support right behind where my finger grips the pick near my joint.
Hope you’ll check out those brands I suggested. I think you’d be shocked at how long it takes to wear them down. It really saves money in the long run. Gator Grips are generally more durable than other popular picks I’ve tried too, but the other two brands are light years ahead! I believe they use a composite compound kind of like those Chinese guitars that mix powdered carbon fiber into plastic resin. Both brands came up with their own proprietary composite material that clearly holds up well. They also reduce unwanted pick noise too. Didn’t believe it until I tried them.
Hello Hughie. So cute! Thanks for sending your preference on picks. I tried the acoustic attack picks. I couldn't get use to it. I tryout picks from time to time. I have so many types I am now on pick overload 🤣 I always seemed to go back to guitar moose. The gravity pick do have my attention now. I will try them out for a while. Thanks again❤️
Primetone sounded best to me
That is a nice pick - not as expensive too. 😀
My takamine sounds to to bright x
What kind of wood is it? Is it a nylon string? 😀
@@guitarnotions koa steal strings x
@@stringman509 now it makes sense - koa is known for midrange focus with extra top-end brightness and chime. It. Is a striking beautiful wood… but you have to like the highs it provides - maple is bright too. I like them both especially if you play with another instrument. My favorite is mahogany or rosewood. Thanks for sharing ❤️
Thumb pick dunlop
They are nice and a great price too. 😀