Tribal and Religious Identity in Afghanistan - Thomas Barfield

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
  • The Muslims in a Global Context series offers the opportunity to examine the factors and trends that are having major impacts on these diverse regions and their relationships with other world regions and countries.

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  • @jojonesjojo8919
    @jojonesjojo8919 2 года назад +2674

    It's good to see that Mark Hamil had a career beyond playing Luke Skywalker.

  • @Rarba786
    @Rarba786 2 года назад +977

    It's interesting watching this just after the US left Afghanistan last week.

    • @Maynard0504
      @Maynard0504 2 года назад +76

      it also explains why everyone just surrendered to the taliban. there is no united resistance.

    • @RiamCute
      @RiamCute 2 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @TheOfficialGLXY
      @TheOfficialGLXY 2 года назад +30

      I wish more folks would watch this. The news is so lacking

    • @dailydoseofmma1512
      @dailydoseofmma1512 2 года назад +17

      @@TheOfficialGLXY like do you expect anything else from the news ??

    • @jamesj9537
      @jamesj9537 2 года назад +28

      @@RiamCute News is mostly propaganda- left or right.

  • @johnvaughan7096
    @johnvaughan7096 2 года назад +275

    Top intellectual; doesn't oversimplify and when he does a little bit, he tells you to be careful.

    • @kazkaskazkas8689
      @kazkaskazkas8689 2 года назад +14

      no no no, I'd rather listen to what Biden or Trump have to say about it

    • @KRYPTOS_K5
      @KRYPTOS_K5 2 года назад +2

      I agree. He is excelente.
      Brazil
      Russia

    • @area609joe2
      @area609joe2 2 года назад +2

      @@kazkaskazkas8689 I don't like Biden, he at least to advisors. Trump admin didn't even listen to his allies. Only pundit who has been honest. Malcom Nance who under stood culture, ethnic and tribal differences he was at least honest. Context is important. I don't don't affiliate party.

    • @str.77
      @str.77 2 года назад +2

      @@area609joe2 Trumo might have been bad (including on Afghanistan) but Biden is so much worse. He's the one after all who handed the country back to the Taliban.

    • @area609joe2
      @area609joe2 2 года назад +1

      @@str.77 Honestly I can break it down. It might take me a few hours thou. If your blaming Biden as President your wrong. If you think he has responsibility as VP then maybe you understand.
      Not understanding the culture and history in context, Not understanding how NATO countries run their government.
      If Boris Johnson is prime minister and we ignore him and go to labor make verbal agreement to fight terrorism together. What the admin saw as an exit plan Afghans saw as the United States finally recognized the Taliban as political party and the Afghan government failure. Our knew that treating Taliban as a shadow government. America first had consequences. We either didn't listen or ignored the facts. I don't expect you to m ow any of this.
      Most Americans don't most of my fellow marines don't.
      The Taliban offered to surrender disarm and bin laden over to a 3rd party country. Bin laden was a guest in that country and were not allies of the Taliban. Taliban card a outside of Afghanistan, BJJ. Laden cared about United in Saudi Arabia. This isn't a debate. I can shoot down every pundits argument you been watching on tv. You been lied to. 2 years the Agfan papers were released. If blaming this admin for anything, were you been for 20 years. I can and fact everything I have said. It's not my opinion. Its SIGAR. That's the inspector of Afghanistan.
      If you civil cool, you blame Biden who I actually have reasons to no like you don't have facts.
      War could have been over in 2001 bush said no.
      Where did you serve Afghanistan? Im a marine, you must have served and understand Trump doing children being sexually abused? Is that Biden's fault to? U don't know about either. Military let boys be rapped? What do you know tell me please.
      www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

  • @mr.baqiov8711
    @mr.baqiov8711 2 года назад +31

    OMG !! I’m from Afghanistan, Hazara tribe and this professor explained the best way possible, even far way better then our Afghan history professor back in school days and every thing he says is true, I literally amazed by him 😅he knows even very small details about AFG
    Great explanations !👏

    • @KING_SADAT
      @KING_SADAT 7 дней назад

      yeah, bro. They even know more than each one us..
      when USSR and USA was competing over Afghanistan, both of them investigated about Afghanistan, and they used this diversity. For instance, when Dawood was the king, initially he was closer whit USSR, but later for some reasons he tended to have closer political relations with USA; therefore, USSR used another person by the name of Noor Muhammak and killed Dawood and his family.
      You know bro, it is obvious that our country contains variety of nations and tribes, and I am very proud of it. However, recently, we are separated by name of religion, tribe, language, area, and many other reasons, which is really bad for our future...
      Though if we raise our awareness, and if we accept each other, we can be great nation again.
      .. Everybody should know this:
      آسیا پیکر آب و گِل است
      ملت افغان در پیکر دل است
      از فساد او فساد آسیا
      از گشاد او گشاد آسیا

  • @LookAroundMore
    @LookAroundMore 2 года назад +88

    30:35 "Islam might have come out of the Arab world, but when it gets to the Persian world it gets refitted" LOoOL a truer historic reading has ever been uttered!

    • @lunarcalendar368
      @lunarcalendar368 2 года назад +14

      Judaism and Christianity are no different either.

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast 2 года назад +1

      *has never been uttered

    • @BoqPrecision
      @BoqPrecision 2 года назад +3

      which is why the rest of the Islamic world didn't adopt much Persianate Culture . Persians accepted Islam begrudgingly and Allah subsequently punished them with Turko-Mongol yoke. (Turks kept Islam quite orthodox thankfully for the Ummah).

    • @NarasimhaDiyasena
      @NarasimhaDiyasena 2 года назад +13

      Boqoreh Precision Persians didn’t accept it they were forced to submit to it during the islamic conquests into India. They fought to maintain Zoroastrianism and Persian culture and failed

    • @Druffmaul
      @Druffmaul 2 года назад +3

      @@NarasimhaDiyasena What did you think he meant by "begrudgingly"? 🙄

  • @campbelltown3065
    @campbelltown3065 2 года назад +436

    This was brilliant. I wish I had seen it years ago. I’m a former career Australian Army officer who did three tours of Afghanistan, the first in 2002. Later my son also joined the Army and he did two tours. I had always wanted to understand the Afghan tribal system, their approach to Islam, relationships between ethnic groups etc etc. I found this lecture the day the US withdrew from Afghanistan. How’s that for irony. I think God was playing a joke on me.

    • @friendsoftheamazonjungle
      @friendsoftheamazonjungle 2 года назад +16

      Thank you for your service brother 💪🙏👍❤️✌️ greetings from the Northern Peruvian Amazon Jungle 🌴🌴🌴

    • @dh.k363
      @dh.k363 2 года назад +25

      Goes to show e why you guys ultimately failed in Afghanistan

    • @justadude9110
      @justadude9110 2 года назад +46

      Australian soldiers were known to commit some war crimes and i always wondered why would anyone in Australia sign up to go there. The country was never attacked or threatened by them but the sheer will of Australia soldiers to go there and fight that foreign war always surprised me as to why

    • @user-iw2wu8yp6v
      @user-iw2wu8yp6v 2 года назад

      @Ming Chen probably

    • @yousufleads
      @yousufleads 2 года назад +20

      @@justadude9110 because you only joint the army to legally babykill and rape. Its full of psychos

  • @chipparker3950
    @chipparker3950 2 года назад +266

    I spent 3 years in Afghanistan in the late 1970s and another year 1997-98 as a health care provider working with a Nongovernmental organization. I became quite functional in Farsi and had good friends that were Afghan that didn't speak English and were not westernized. I worked with them, traveled with them and spent time in their homes. There's little in this presentation that I would challenge. Time and effort can be rewarding in coming to a better understanding but felt you could never "understand "Afghanistan there are a few points I would like to make with the US withdrawal in mind and the errors that resulted in this 20 year disaster.
    1. We taught the Afghans it was about money with CIA personel coming in with palets of US currency.
    2. We thought we could win with technology.
    3. Placing too much importance in written agreements, contracts, organization and procedures and not understanding the importance of establishing relationships and trust.
    4. Success can not be achieved with short term tours of partners.
    Of course there is much more but I'll stop here.

    • @sivansuresh208
      @sivansuresh208 2 года назад +35

      Being a South Asian, I could relate to that. White people are perceived as if they have lot of money. I felt the desperation Afghans showed at Kabul airport, was more of an once time life time opportunity to settle down in America and live better lives than fear of dying at the hands of Taliban. At a stand up comedy, an Indian comedian said that biggest social achievement Indians achieve is when they get out of India (and settle down in western countries). Indians settled in western countries, are treated like elites and get higher level of respect and ridicule as well (similiar to ridicules posh people get in UK).
      I grew up in India. My understanding through Indians about white people is that white people are only admired for their money and easier access to sex life they have. That's the only things Indians wish for from white people. An average Indian do not care about other western values like individualism and respect for other people's wishes to live their lives at their own terms.

    • @mecongberlin
      @mecongberlin 2 года назад +2

      Chip, I love Pt. 3👏🏻👏🏻

    • @mistressofstones
      @mistressofstones 2 года назад +5

      Sivan Suresh gosh people in Asia think we are doing it 24/7 lol

    • @ericurban2385
      @ericurban2385 2 года назад

      PLEASE KEEP GOING !!!! .. 100%

    • @ericurban2385
      @ericurban2385 2 года назад +1

      @@mecongberlin I'd love to hear a whole lot more about this.

  • @Gadavillers-Panoir
    @Gadavillers-Panoir 3 года назад +140

    Damn this lecture is PRECISELY what I was looking for.

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

    • @salman-is9or
      @salman-is9or 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/wGHyK_E5EOg/видео.html.
      The CIA HEAD TALKS TO THE TALIBAN FACE TO FACE💥 "9/11💥
      watch THE REALITY and realise the Truth. &Share to others Thank you

  • @thejamnasium6447
    @thejamnasium6447 2 года назад +46

    I'll never forget my buddy who went over there in the Army many years ago. he told me something I had never heard before. he said, "man, there are some parts of Afghanistan that are more beautiful than you can even imagine"

    • @lanatmolaje2901
      @lanatmolaje2901 2 года назад

      But no one wants American army there because you guys can't do stuff right you guys are the one who made Taliban.

  • @vuvuvu6291
    @vuvuvu6291 2 года назад +119

    "The Uzbeks lost because they fight after breakfast but the Soviet attacked at dawn."
    That's by far the nicest way to call out someone is lazy 😂

  • @zohalghafari8331
    @zohalghafari8331 2 года назад +80

    Living in Canada since childhood, its great to learn more about my beautiful country Afghanistan 🇦🇫 ❤. Hoping I can go and see the places that my parents, grandparents and ancestors lived and made a living. I am from the Tajik tribe. All humanity is equal and what's important is for everyone to live happily and in peace.
    Great informative video.

    • @shahbanunilofartajik
      @shahbanunilofartajik 2 года назад +8

      Tajiks are not a tribe nor tribal. Tajiks are a nation.

    • @dreamervanroom
      @dreamervanroom 2 года назад +1

      @@shahbanunilofartajik i hear you. I know litttle about all this. I heard a Malcolm Nance interview 2..3 days ago. Then so fat listened to half (so far) of a long lecture from Yale yesterday and I started this today.
      You dont know me but please, I would like you to give me more to read or listen to. Thank you.

    • @CountingStars333
      @CountingStars333 2 года назад

      You do know Tajikistan is real.

    • @slabdab4202
      @slabdab4202 2 года назад

      Canada is the same

    • @stevenleslie8557
      @stevenleslie8557 2 года назад

      Do you now live there?

  • @jimmygravitt1048
    @jimmygravitt1048 2 года назад +22

    Man, I was TRIPPING out at how similar the stuff he was saying was to what I had read on the subject. Then, I realized he was the author of the book. Great book, great lecture.

  • @ahmadsafari8181
    @ahmadsafari8181 5 лет назад +306

    I'm proud to be Tajik and i respect to all my country tribes and love them ✊🏻👏🏻❤️💐💖💕💖💐💝 we are together

    • @masyaf897
      @masyaf897 4 года назад +11

      Same

    • @khanjaaan5800
      @khanjaaan5800 4 года назад +4

      Yes bro manana

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад +15

      @@khanjaaan5800 afghanisfan is of pashtun

    • @shah.w
      @shah.w 3 года назад +34

      @@walid3207 You are a poor educated you don't know history.

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад +6

      @@shah.w go baxk to turkmenistan

  • @BizRasam
    @BizRasam 5 лет назад +116

    As an Afghan Pashtun I am greatful for such insight into Afghanistan and it's people.

    • @baruchhashem49
      @baruchhashem49 4 года назад +15

      Are not they not the people of Moses. A lost tribe of Israel

    • @hrr_
      @hrr_ 4 года назад +2

      @@fsbm1337 bghairtaa da commnts delet ka😠

    • @user-ug2jp9uc5m
      @user-ug2jp9uc5m 4 года назад

      @@hrr_ der kha ye wrta wele di . Sta pki sa kaar di

    • @BizRasam
      @BizRasam 4 года назад +9

      The comments prove the chaos within and around Afghanistan and it's region.

    • @afzaliaf5585
      @afzaliaf5585 3 года назад +8

      Pashton are lost trip of Israel actually, it's a fact.

  • @burtonlee22
    @burtonlee22 2 года назад +487

    Excellent talk. Was he ever asked to brief the Pentagon before or during the US entry into Afghanistan? We seem to have very few of these high quality, deeply field-experienced anthropologists here in the USA

    • @user-lw6ud9hu6x
      @user-lw6ud9hu6x 2 года назад +4

      👍👍👍

    • @CrniWuk
      @CrniWuk 2 года назад +57

      That's not what the Pentagon interests because this is not what the Pentagon does. The Pentagon is pretty much responsible for the military branch and organising the military. The Pentagon itself does not decide when and how to use the military though and they are not involved in politics. The United States is not a military state. Shown by the fact that the Pentagon can not declare war or even start military operations without approval from the president and congress first.
      So what you should ask is, has any president ever got such a briefing? And I somehow can not imagine that ever really happend ...

    • @KRYPTOS_K5
      @KRYPTOS_K5 2 года назад +7

      Yes. I agree.
      He is excelente. He has cognitive, biological, geography (social ecology) psychological and factual historic approaches. Not only economics and politics but altogether. Excellent folk.
      Brazil
      Russia

    • @KRYPTOS_K5
      @KRYPTOS_K5 2 года назад +4

      @@CrniWuk Yes you are technically right but you understand the necessity to have those type of experts in your presidential team.
      Brazil
      Russia

    • @clementello
      @clementello 2 года назад +4

      @@CrniWuk what? you mean the president can't watch youtube? /s

  • @matthewbittenbender9191
    @matthewbittenbender9191 2 года назад +187

    "it doesn't have to be fact to get some people to act." This is true in Afghanistan as it is in the US.

    • @hesterp7089
      @hesterp7089 2 года назад +9

      Exactly that's the trick of how the west strikes pre-emptive. The West attacks it's self blame another then they have mainstream approval to " defend" when it's actually an offense

    • @thesecretkey9845
      @thesecretkey9845 2 года назад +8

      The fucking hilarious thing is that the "conspiracy" he's talking about was probably correct. Also, he's being disingenuous here. He's making it sound like a "debunking" means that Afghanis have accepted that the premise of the "conspiracy theory" is false and act anyways, when in reality they probably just don't find the rebuttal convincing. Who's doing the "debunking" here? Some western journalist working for institutional mass media? Some US army official?
      If a creationist "debunks" evolution and "proves" that Genesis is a "fact", are you now just acting based on falsehoods if you accept evolution? Of course not. The "debunking" is not convincing and the "fact" isn't actually a fact, that's just a buzzword. The same thing goes for US mass media and universities.

    • @pats.6427
      @pats.6427 2 года назад

      @@thesecretkey9845 You and your cohorts here have the reasoning skills of Afghanis.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 2 года назад +1

      @@pats.6427 "oogabooga Gawd is real"
      Shut up.

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад +2

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

  • @khuramkarim
    @khuramkarim 2 года назад +8

    As an Afghan, I would say it is extremely well stated. I am surprised for the first time ever in my life watching a foreigner who has very deep understanding of Afghanistan 🇦🇫.

  • @mikegray8776
    @mikegray8776 2 года назад +31

    Fabulous lecture - well done!!
    Clearly this Professor has huge knowledge born of experience, but more than that, his style of delivery is so interesting snd compelling. I now understand so much more about the country

  • @karoma7898
    @karoma7898 2 года назад +114

    I loooooove listening to someone with actually experience and not just he said she said :)

  • @thegreatest1176
    @thegreatest1176 2 года назад +124

    I learned more about my people and culture then i ever imagined. As a mix afghan (tajik mother, hazara/pashtune Persianise father) its really eye opening about my past, cause I can relate to all that he mentions. Even though I am mix child, I am still pulled to one side of a tribe and religious sect, since I refer to myself as kabuli and sunni, which goes to show the ethnic identity is strong. Also this talk forgot to mention all the racism/prejudice discriminations in the society. all round a fascinating talk, just praying that stability reaches my land as oppose to extremism.

    • @latetodagame1892
      @latetodagame1892 2 года назад +5

      Don't worry. I got that, the racism.

    • @thegreatest1176
      @thegreatest1176 2 года назад +5

      @@latetodagame1892 lots of it

    • @piyushjaiswal9283
      @piyushjaiswal9283 2 года назад +4

      Hazaras are not pashtuns

    • @RamKumar-yi6wn
      @RamKumar-yi6wn 2 года назад +1

      Hello there. Are you out of Afghanistan now ?

    • @thegreatest1176
      @thegreatest1176 2 года назад +5

      @@piyushjaiswal9283 I never said they were, I am a multi ethnic person

  • @thomasrimer1611
    @thomasrimer1611 2 года назад +22

    Amazing talk! This is way better in the background than any podcast

    • @astupiddvdcase
      @astupiddvdcase 2 года назад +2

      Yup, intellectual lectures by academics at the top of their field> stupid youtube or podcast personalities who thinks their opinion is right

  • @SafiullahBazarg
    @SafiullahBazarg Год назад +3

    I am Afghan Pashton i proud my Countryman Hazar,Tajik,Uzbek❤

  • @zakisulimani6134
    @zakisulimani6134 4 года назад +81

    I am a Hazara and I am proud of my Identity and my country

    • @waynedombrowski7568
      @waynedombrowski7568 3 года назад +11

      It might not happen in our lifetimes,but I am certain that someday Afghanistan will have a Hazara president.

    • @darkthought784
      @darkthought784 3 года назад +2

      isn't u monguls !?

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 2 года назад +2

      @@waynedombrowski7568 never, we will surely prevent that.. pashtuns rule afghanistan nd that will always be the same

    • @espribrockway
      @espribrockway 2 года назад +2

      Hey, Ive been looking everywhere to talk to an Afgh.ani person, and specifically a Hazari perspective on everything going on. My country is very censored and I cannot find your perspective anywhere. Is there any way we could talk? I see through our prop.*ganda. Excuse the use of periods and stars in this; it's the only way this will stay up, unfortunately. Hope ur having a nice day though!

    • @espribrockway
      @espribrockway 2 года назад +1

      @@waynedombrowski7568 Do you have an Instagram or any alternative way that we could talk? I'd love your perspective on everything and learn from you. Thanks so much, hope you are doing well.

  • @KristopherNoronha
    @KristopherNoronha 2 года назад +74

    This is a really good lecture. I wish more people could see things from an Afghan perspective - this barely scratches the surface, but it lays bare the fact that the rest of the world just assumes the people of Afghanistan think and feel and organize themselves the way other countries/communities in the region do.

    • @LazarusSlade
      @LazarusSlade 2 года назад +1

      Cool. Now lose the soul patch. It doesn't do you any favors!

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

    • @anonymous_4276
      @anonymous_4276 6 месяцев назад

      Each country views itself differently. Yet people tend to simplify things.

  • @josephhazzouri1373
    @josephhazzouri1373 2 года назад +39

    As a disabled/homebound person who has given up on the news that was Enlightening!🎈

  • @fireking565
    @fireking565 3 года назад +85

    This guy knows everything about Afghanistan he should get his Afghan citizenship 🇦🇫👍

    • @tiktokgamingyt6942
      @tiktokgamingyt6942 3 года назад +3

      Afghan fights in home like to brothers ,,,one mother sons,,,,,,I love you my lovely Afghanistan ,,,,,

    • @lucascoval828
      @lucascoval828 2 года назад +3

      Uh.......😐

    • @PBTKaizen
      @PBTKaizen 2 года назад +1

      Or be the “Afghan” cultural advisor to U.S…..

    • @halluciongen3000
      @halluciongen3000 2 года назад +1

      It’s good to know that Afghans approve

    • @invest_in_dogecoin6398
      @invest_in_dogecoin6398 2 года назад +10

      I don’t think anyone wants to move to Afghanistan bro

  • @philipmulville8218
    @philipmulville8218 2 года назад +40

    A very interesting and informative lecture. Professor Barfield is brilliant.

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

  • @DreamteamCarlo
    @DreamteamCarlo 2 года назад +31

    Excellent lecture, and a nice delivery too. Afghanistan is such an intriguing place, I wish all it’s people well. 🙏

    • @zema2071
      @zema2071 2 года назад

      For some one to be so educated and accept citizenship of a middle age country which doesn't even exist, he would have to be bitten by a rabid dog, stoned and fucking boozed all together at once and even then he would have second thoughts.

  • @malikumairzafar
    @malikumairzafar 5 лет назад +31

    Very informative and intriguing lecture, thanks.

  • @chrisz9732
    @chrisz9732 2 года назад +49

    "The Iranians, they speak Persian very funny" lmao

    • @alexiveperez4687
      @alexiveperez4687 2 года назад +21

      Funny thing is they do. Afghan persian sounds way more normal. Iranians sound like they have a British accent somehow.

    • @Theroadneverending
      @Theroadneverending 2 года назад

      @@alexiveperez4687 wat

    • @alexiveperez4687
      @alexiveperez4687 2 года назад

      @POtusq add I learned persian in kabul. Only people in Mashhad and such places sound normal to me.

    • @alexiveperez4687
      @alexiveperez4687 2 года назад +1

      @POtusq add Herati to me sounds half way to Iranian yes. I think it depends on the person also maybe.

  • @stephenwallace8782
    @stephenwallace8782 2 года назад +21

    THomas Barfield is just wildly insightful, holy shit.

    • @justadude9110
      @justadude9110 2 года назад

      He aint no Tom Garfield, holy spider 🕷

    • @ConservativeAnthem
      @ConservativeAnthem 2 года назад

      Hopefully his grade school name wasn't 'Barf.'

  • @lokitus
    @lokitus 2 года назад +3

    This is an amazing lecture! Thank you!

  • @Sandertie1
    @Sandertie1 2 года назад +6

    Amazing talk, thank you very much.

  • @TheReactor8
    @TheReactor8 2 года назад +8

    Great lecture. I learned much about myself and mine European history too.

  • @l1ncs
    @l1ncs 2 года назад +1

    thank you for publishing this lecture

  • @thierryfontenay3770
    @thierryfontenay3770 2 года назад +1

    The most interesting lecture I ever heard about Afghanistan. Thanks !

  • @RicTic66
    @RicTic66 7 лет назад +6

    very informative. thank you for posting.

  • @hamedrahimi1237
    @hamedrahimi1237 3 года назад +34

    This lecture was very close to accurate. I think one of the reasons that we made/make in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 is that we accept just governmental history. This lecture is look base on facts.

    • @natoranchod4282
      @natoranchod4282 2 года назад

      Thank you for respecting afghans thinking they are certainly wonderful muslim althogh im a hindu

    • @zabsar3615
      @zabsar3615 2 года назад +1

      Decentralized government is the answer, hence why Islam allows shoora to select their leader:

  • @sohrabtajadin3402
    @sohrabtajadin3402 2 года назад +4

    SUPERB LECTURE. Bravo!!!

  • @gordonbryce
    @gordonbryce 2 года назад +3

    A very clear and intelligent analysis, thanks for posting!

  • @davidgray3321
    @davidgray3321 2 года назад +20

    Coming from a Scottish family this is all very familiar! My ex girlfriend was up in the highlands and knocked on a bed and breakfast house (they saw a sign up) , and the lady who answered “your not campbells are you? No they replied , “you can come in then”

    • @003mohamud
      @003mohamud 2 года назад +9

      Im from somalia and we also have a clan system. It just leads to record breaking nepotism and endless clan feuds.

    • @davidgray3321
      @davidgray3321 2 года назад +1

      @@003mohamud Hello Samatar , I agree it can be unhealthy, I also think in some countries there can be a surplus population if the land is not good farmland, then people either leave or have endless fighting. I think that is what has been the history of Afghanistan. But they have many cleaver people and I wish them peace and happiness in the future. I understand that in the past Muslim world was very advanced in philosophy and mathematics. Time to be great again.
      What do you think of Haile Selassie from Ethiopia?

    • @003mohamud
      @003mohamud 2 года назад

      @@davidgray3321 I also wish peace in the Muslim world. As for Haile, so long as the Ogaden remains under Ethiopian control I will not have a positive view of any early-modern or modern Ethiopian leader. The peoples of Ethiopia I have a positive view of though.

  • @krisinsaigon
    @krisinsaigon 2 года назад +13

    Very interesting
    I studied pre modern history at university and so these ideas remind me of the societies i did study

  • @marymorton9117
    @marymorton9117 2 года назад +1

    Fascinating! Really enjoyed the lecture. Learned a lot.

  • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
    @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 года назад +56

    Beyond the Mark Hamill resemblance, this man has a lot of valuable insight for beginners. The geography has a strong influence on the social and political norms that develop and the culture that congeals around it. It is an amazing place with amazing people, struggling in these difficult times.

    • @SeanT649
      @SeanT649 2 года назад +1

      Beginners at what ?

    • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
      @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 года назад +2

      @@SeanT649 I meant those that are for the first time beginning research on Afghanistan. But actually it is also excellent for everyone, since there are some people that have worked and lived there and have not yet grasped the insight of Professor Barfield.

    • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
      @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 года назад +1

      @Amy Callis there are tons of online ethnic maps of AFGH to complement his great insight. Those maps tell you only a little about dynamics.

    • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
      @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 года назад

      @Amy Callis In this case, I disagree, since he is adding a special type of insight value beyond mapping. If it is for a complete, comprehensive course, yeah, you're right. It's just super insightful what he is saying.

    • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
      @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 года назад +2

      @Amy Callis I just think you're not giving the man a fair shot. He's not supposed to entertain you with graphics or visuals, but to explain what is going on. It's free, and for someone like me that worked five years in AFGH, his stuff is golden and not something that everyone gets. It's not supposed to be a comprehensive course or training or something for the unserious who need gimmicks to keep their attention, but a solid, good intro into the dynamics related to ethnicity in AFGH. When people complain that the audio wasn't good enough or the colors were this or that, or that there were no maps, I just roll my eyes.

  • @radnj4610
    @radnj4610 4 года назад +119

    I m from Afghnisan, I call my self persian Tajik. My grandmother is Pashtun. My mother in law is a pashtun and also my uncle wife's is a Hazara.
    My best friends are Hazarah and Pashtun.
    One of the point you did not mention is the family relation between these tribes.
    I see Tajiks a kind of bridge between all afghans, they have same believe with pashtuns and same language with Hazaras

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад +9

      Afghanistan is of pashtuns bro.. tajikis and uzbeks can go to tajikistand and uzbekistan

    • @SherKhan-rd9uw
      @SherKhan-rd9uw 3 года назад +1

      @@walid3207 true

    • @tiktokgamingyt6942
      @tiktokgamingyt6942 3 года назад +5

      @@walid3207 not only pashtons I am to pashtons paktia Afghanistan for all muslims

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад +3

      @@tiktokgamingyt6942 we are majority bro

    • @Tajikzer
      @Tajikzer 3 года назад +22

      @@walid3207 you're only the majority in South Afghanistan, the most violence striken

  • @shah.w
    @shah.w 6 лет назад +91

    We are TÜRKMEN Oguz Türks from northern and northwest of Afghanistan.Thank you for sharing informative ethnic group of Afghanistan. Long life Afghanistan.🇦🇫💂‍♂️💝🌹

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад +6

      You are not afghan.. pashtuns are real afghan

    • @shah.w
      @shah.w 3 года назад +10

      @@walid3207 Of course we are Turks not you! Your 1st tribal leader were a loyal soldier of our last Empire Nader Shah Afshar. So you have gotten power by us don't forget the history of the great Seljuk, Ghaznavid, Kharizmed, Mongols, Timored , and Safevid and the last one Afshars. I also like respect Ahmad Shah Durani and Mahmoud Hotak, Shah Amanullah Ghazi, And President Sardar Mohammad Dawood khan.

    • @sahilovo1208
      @sahilovo1208 3 года назад +14

      Every single Turk ethnicity that was living in Afghanistan Are as much as Afghans like the pushtuns are respect your fellow country men’s and you will get respect. Don’t separate one another spread love

    • @walid3207
      @walid3207 3 года назад

      @@sahilovo1208 no. Pashtuns were and are ruling afghanistan for centuries

    • @shah.w
      @shah.w 3 года назад +3

      @@walid3207 After last king Nader Shah Afshar Khorasan became apart and still during Ahmad Shah Durani Afghanistan was big and great. But, unfortunately the King family became weaker and has lost some part of territory

  • @will2003michael2003
    @will2003michael2003 2 года назад +1

    I cannot wait to be able to watch the whole thing.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 года назад +52

    As an ethnic Appalachian, aka Christian Afghanistan, this sounds a lot like us, except we don't have the top-level ethnicities.

    • @yannick245
      @yannick245 2 года назад +3

      Ha! The last clip I watched on RUclips was _"Who are the Appalachians?" by Masaman_

    • @tomd6053
      @tomd6053 2 года назад +4

      Religion backed by delusion, delusion backed by religion, sounds about right

    • @tonyconnolly5385
      @tonyconnolly5385 2 года назад +5

      Mountain people have a lot in common worldwide.

    • @bun197
      @bun197 2 года назад +2

      @@tomd6053 *tips fedora* take this upvote my good sir!!!

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 года назад

      Is it that religiously divided? I always assumed that the lines between those families we drawn based on pretenses of previous national identity

  • @user-fm9mf5mn4b
    @user-fm9mf5mn4b 4 года назад +9

    I born In Iran as pashton and we lived there for 20 years. But all our family speak perfectly pashto and farsi. I want forget Farsi lanavauge now by purpose because i dont need it anymore. I started learning pashto writin and reading from youtube. I am proud to be pashton I will never forget My lanavauge, culture, leaders and hiatory.

    • @asmamhz3870
      @asmamhz3870 3 года назад +2

      u're racist

    • @AzizKhan-ei3gp
      @AzizKhan-ei3gp 3 года назад +1

      Appreciated

    • @SherKhan-rd9uw
      @SherKhan-rd9uw 3 года назад +2

      @@asmamhz3870 Pashtuns should neverr learn another langauge. Unless its their mother tounge first
      Respect wror. Pashto for pashtuns

    • @Tajikdxt
      @Tajikdxt 2 года назад

      thanks, a dirty talib shouldn’t speak persian and taint our elegant language with that shitty southern accent ❤️

    • @Mindful0093
      @Mindful0093 Месяц назад

      Afghanistan national language is Farsi so you Pashtuns must learn the language of Tajiks who are majority in there.

  • @Theguys1
    @Theguys1 2 года назад +3

    This is excellent!

  • @vikramheble9972
    @vikramheble9972 2 года назад +1

    An extremely educative lecture and well presented too.

  • @HiRobert
    @HiRobert 2 года назад

    Great job, RUclips! Helpful video to stumble across rn.

  • @AMuuse-ih2oo
    @AMuuse-ih2oo 2 года назад +10

    I'm from🇸🇴Somalia🇸🇴Somali tribe. the professor understands very well about tribes, specifically identity clan or small depends on the issue or who you ask. when it's Ethiopia 🇪🇹 ethnics have another meaning.

    • @faresrizk7725
      @faresrizk7725 11 месяцев назад

      Somali society is clan based, the trouble with Somalia is that in the absence, between the darod, the issaq, etc etc, a common understanding of brotherhood, clanism meant that the only political options of strengths were the extremists of the communists or the Saudi/wahabbi Islamist movement extremists.

  • @priscillanaseery2581
    @priscillanaseery2581 4 года назад +73

    This was such an amazing lecture. Thank you for sharing this with the world.

    • @matmos9293
      @matmos9293 3 года назад +1

      Ali was never the founder of the Shia sect. His knowledge in that department is totally wrong, even the Shia never claim that. Ali is the fourth Khalif of Sunni Islam, but Thomes did not know that.

    • @AbdullFattahBakhshiaf
      @AbdullFattahBakhshiaf 3 года назад +1

      All what he says and doubts are almost true about Afghanistan. But as Hazaras, Uzbek, Pashtun and Tajik we can’t accept these facts and figures, because we desire more authority and power in Afghanistan for our ethnicity, in order to have more power we express us more about population and history or mostly exaggerating and even Lying about our people.

  • @standing8count923
    @standing8count923 2 года назад +1

    Wow this guy is a phenomenal teacher!

  • @tpgt4588
    @tpgt4588 2 года назад +1

    In the confusion off afghanistan the professor Thomas has clear ideas , one more time thanks for the lesson

  • @pamiriaryan9941
    @pamiriaryan9941 6 лет назад +71

    Good point about Nawruz (Zoroastrian) holiday that Arabs had to recognize because people would not accept other-way. Other fact you forgot to mention that first time in the history of Islam, holy Koran was translated to foreign language and it was tajik (dari) language in Bukhara in order to attract tajiks-afghans-persians and even first Juma namaz was in Persian language.
    Majority of the Sunni Muslims are followers of Imam Abu Hanafia, his ancestors were tajiks from Afghanistan, Imam Al Bukhari one of the greatest Hadith recorder(?). If you go to Chechen republic they are followers of Sufi Naqshbandi who was tajik from Bukhara. Tajik Afghan Persian world had huge impact on Islam through poetry literature that's why we understand Islam more than just religion it's our poetry literature culture. The word Namaz is not Arabic , or Roza or even celebrating Nawruz as new year and main holiday says a lot.

    • @faaris1395
      @faaris1395 5 лет назад +1

      so your telling me muhammad (saw) spoke persian. if you have any islamic knowledge you would know 1) the prophet was illiterate and 2) the 1st jumah was in quba (near madinah) so nwhy would the prophet speak persian to arabs and finally the prophet didnt know persian. non arabs only say "namaz" and "roza"

    • @TheAfghan72
      @TheAfghan72 4 года назад +5

      Abu Hanifa was Tajik? lol.

    • @ThePhoenix109
      @ThePhoenix109 3 года назад +5

      @@TheAfghan72 what then?

    • @tiktokgamingyt6942
      @tiktokgamingyt6942 3 года назад +1

      @@TheAfghan72 imam sab tajik all imam sab love you,,,

    • @iamannocent2913
      @iamannocent2913 2 года назад +1

      mans talking out of his ass

  • @SirajKhan-mt7vf
    @SirajKhan-mt7vf 4 года назад +14

    Long live Afghanistan long live United Afghanistan 🇦🇫 my beautiful great country

  • @peterfrankiewicz9379
    @peterfrankiewicz9379 2 года назад +3

    great lecture, thanks.

  • @morthim
    @morthim 2 года назад

    extremely good video, well done and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @markpartridge378
    @markpartridge378 2 года назад +7

    Fascinating lecture - what I found really interesting was that almost everything he said applied equally to my own country and my experiences in it. The fragmented society, the lack of clearly defined groups, the unasked and unanswered contradictions, truths that exist because "we say it's true", solidarity against outsiders but returning to old internecine disputes when left alone...I have lived within several different ethnic groups in my country and observed the same issues and ways of dealing with them in all of them. Perhaps what Thomas Barfield describes is actually a clearer way of looking at my own country also; guess where I live!

    • @twangbarfly
      @twangbarfly 2 года назад

      Sounds like the UK .... could be virtually anywhere. Well-stated analysis though!

    • @theoutlook55
      @theoutlook55 2 года назад

      What is your own country, now that you bring it up?

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

    • @markpartridge378
      @markpartridge378 2 года назад +2

      @@theoutlook55 Born in England of mixed English, Irish and Jewish stock. Spent twenty five years in the Hebrides, my kids consider themselves Scottish. Also live and worked in Kenya, now moving to Wales - for how long I am not sure. I don't really feel that attached to any clump of soil, I have the right to various passports but I rarely consider the question of nationality. That's why this lecture was so fascinating - I came to it hoping to learn more about what I thought were an alien people, only to realise how similar they are to many of the folk I know.

    • @theoutlook55
      @theoutlook55 2 года назад

      @@markpartridge378 👍🏿

  • @aristeidislykas7163
    @aristeidislykas7163 4 года назад +7

    Excellent lecture

  • @lorenam4067
    @lorenam4067 3 года назад +2

    Proud hazzara and uzbeck from latin america long live the culture if the indus valley and Afghanistan

  • @tpgt4588
    @tpgt4588 2 года назад +1

    Great lesson thank you so much professor Thomas

  • @area609joe2
    @area609joe2 2 года назад +3

    Anthropology is Amazing. context is important.

  • @tomjohn8733
    @tomjohn8733 2 года назад +4

    This helped to make everything as clear as mud, but it covered the subject very well, not long ago I watch a documentary about Afghanistan when Buddhism existed there, the producer obviously understood how to navigate the complex system, by honoring those who were were in charge each step of the way, in order to make his film, that when in whatever region of the country, do as they do, respect their customs, respect the people…and they will tolerate your intrusion with curiosity, etc, no wonder our attempts to change Afghanistan ended as it did…our leaders never really understood Afghanistan complexity, it is what it is, Peace

  • @Kommandant7
    @Kommandant7 2 года назад +1

    Gold knowledge; thanks for sharing!

  • @SunnyIlha
    @SunnyIlha 2 года назад +2

    Everyone who wants to understand Afghanistan should watch and listen to this lecture.

    • @SunnyIlha
      @SunnyIlha 2 года назад

      @GREATLIFESUCKS GREAT
      Worry not.
      There are, as you know,
      more than one thing to spend time on.

  • @badbrig
    @badbrig 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic! Hugely impressed by the content, delivery and presentation. And the logic works in northern India too (up to Punjab/himachal/Hill states. Well done, Sir!

  • @robparker6802
    @robparker6802 2 года назад +4

    He wrote "Isamic" on the board rather than Islamic.
    Really informative and thoughtful talk explaining some of the nuances.

  • @abdrahmanabdaziz319
    @abdrahmanabdaziz319 2 года назад

    Thank you for the talk.

  • @martinkrehl1478
    @martinkrehl1478 2 года назад +1

    That was brilliant!

  • @mathewsmith1277
    @mathewsmith1277 2 года назад +3

    Everything he say is on point great 👍

  • @haneefkhan8281
    @haneefkhan8281 5 лет назад +29

    I am pashtun and thank you for information..you are to intellegent person...

  • @anishtiwari6197
    @anishtiwari6197 2 года назад

    This is a beautiful lecture. Thank you

  • @christopherlord3441
    @christopherlord3441 2 года назад +1

    Excellent talk. Keep up the good work.

  • @hosank
    @hosank 2 года назад +116

    At least now the mystery of Luke Skywalker’s whereabouts between Episodes VI and VIII has been solved. He was busy studying the ethnic groups of Afghanistan

    • @3aeren
      @3aeren 2 года назад +1

      William Forsythe

    • @jowlorenz9555
      @jowlorenz9555 2 года назад +4

      Afganistan may as well be Tatooine desert planet .

    • @hosank
      @hosank 2 года назад +1

      @@jowlorenz9555 I always thought the Hazara people are basically the Jawa of Central Asia

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

  • @theaestheticcactus7889
    @theaestheticcactus7889 2 года назад +6

    Quite an insightful lecture, kind of a coincidence I get this in my recommended videos given how up in the air things are over there at the minute

  • @CrimsonRand
    @CrimsonRand 2 года назад +2

    I love that this was randomly recommended to me

    • @satoshinakamoto7253
      @satoshinakamoto7253 2 года назад

      taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS

  • @Rajj854
    @Rajj854 2 года назад +1

    Superb. This is a gem.

  • @AbdullFattahBakhshiaf
    @AbdullFattahBakhshiaf 3 года назад +12

    About the Hazaras, they don’t only looks like Mangols but also like Turks und Uzbeks. Their language are Persian/ Hazaragi

    • @dewanaafgun8668
      @dewanaafgun8668 3 года назад

      Hazara is not Mongol do you understand

    • @patika.rebetika
      @patika.rebetika 2 года назад

      Is Hazaragi similar to Turkish?

    • @user-fy9el2zu5g
      @user-fy9el2zu5g 2 года назад +2

      @@patika.rebetika it’s 97% Persian like, so very minutely Turkic.

  • @irigm6132
    @irigm6132 2 года назад +5

    Being mixture child of Tajik Father and Pushtoon mother. I must say whatever he said was 100% correct.

  • @alephd93
    @alephd93 2 года назад +2

    This was amazing work. As a Pashayi Pakhtun i enjoyed it

    • @mekaeil8018
      @mekaeil8018 Год назад

      Pashai are pakhtuns so call yourself proud pakhtun or afghan

  • @callenjohnson81
    @callenjohnson81 2 года назад

    Thanks this was an incredible education on Afghanistan.. its in the news alot & I wanted to know more.

  • @noahmarx8297
    @noahmarx8297 2 года назад +25

    "Afghanistan's greatest export is rugs" cut to 2021, Afghanistan produces 90% of the world's heroin supply, valued in excess of $100,000,000,000

    • @lesroesch
      @lesroesch 2 года назад +4

      Isn't that the real reason the US was there - so the CIA could capture the poppy fields to fund their black ops? Probably Nato and Mossad as well.

    • @terrencebranscombe3257
      @terrencebranscombe3257 2 года назад +1

      I imagine the Afghan farmers growing the crop, and their low-level buyers, see several orders of magnitude less than that number you quoted, hence the industry may play a smaller role in organizing Afghan politics than your figure suggests, but it's an important omission nevertheless from an otherwise very insightful lecture.

    • @mathewgrelr7084
      @mathewgrelr7084 2 года назад +2

      No one buys there heroin anymore it's all fentenal from china

    • @captainalex157
      @captainalex157 2 года назад +6

      @@lesroesch yeah just throw out some theory without any evidence, why not throw in the free masons and illuminati as well?

    • @lesroesch
      @lesroesch 2 года назад +1

      @@captainalex157 Nice try.

  • @HeavyK.
    @HeavyK. 2 года назад +3

    This guy has a great voice.

  • @abdulhalimmahmud7891
    @abdulhalimmahmud7891 2 года назад

    Enlightening lectures

  • @oldmech619
    @oldmech619 2 года назад +1

    This lecture should be required of all our leaders

  • @MandolinSunrise
    @MandolinSunrise 2 года назад +18

    ‘Tribal and Religious Identity in USA’ would be an interesting social/anthropological vid too.
    But at the end of the day people don’t like having bombs dropped on them, they observe, witness, remember...

    • @vodkaboy
      @vodkaboy 2 года назад

      attention ca coupe les mandolines

  • @OscarRuiz-gj3mp
    @OscarRuiz-gj3mp 2 года назад +5

    I wonder what is his understanding of the situation now? Very good talk. I expected to listen for ten minutes and stayed the almost hour.... LOL!

  • @qetiogusliriope7436
    @qetiogusliriope7436 2 года назад

    This is a great video.

  • @salmanshahzad772
    @salmanshahzad772 2 года назад

    Excellent lecture Dr Barfield has great understanding of Afghan culture it certainly gave me a better understanding.

  • @poorushotamgujadhur4054
    @poorushotamgujadhur4054 2 года назад +3

    Very informative. I learnt a lot from your vast knowledge. Keep on sharing and disseminating your valuable views and comments.

    • @sylvia106
      @sylvia106 2 года назад

      Learned*

    • @lqenr52
      @lqenr52 2 года назад

      @@sylvia106 In UK/International spelling its learnt, in US spelling it's learned. So he was still correct.

    • @poorushotamgujadhur4054
      @poorushotamgujadhur4054 2 года назад

      @@sylvia106 Thanks for correction of grammatical mistake.

  • @voidhog1028
    @voidhog1028 2 года назад +55

    the one student laughing at the jokes is my favorite person

    • @Bart-Did-it
      @Bart-Did-it 2 года назад

      @Ahmad خان 😅

    • @holymoly8848
      @holymoly8848 2 года назад +3

      @Ahmad خان 37 apparently and you did enough to comment you miserable human 😂😂

    • @daniyalnaqvi2569
      @daniyalnaqvi2569 2 года назад

      HAHAHAHA true

  • @Cgh432
    @Cgh432 2 года назад +1

    Great lecture loved this 👍

  • @joecapesius2887
    @joecapesius2887 2 года назад +1

    Thomas explains this very complicated topic with ease, suggesting he really knows what he is talking about.

  • @francismuiruri9064
    @francismuiruri9064 2 года назад +5

    Too few views for such a great video.

  • @area609joe2
    @area609joe2 2 года назад +10

    Sad that people are seeing this now. I haven't been able to get people to understand that the western idea of Afghanistan never existed.

    • @astupiddvdcase
      @astupiddvdcase 2 года назад +1

      Yup… ppl the past month going “why isnt anyone defending their country?!!!” Like maybe go get educated?

  • @HughJason
    @HughJason 2 месяца назад

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @e.doviabbey6408
    @e.doviabbey6408 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant work through an immersive experience! I wish Sir Mortimer Durand had Professor Barfield's knowledge and intellectual humility. The interplay between these human groups and the geography of the country, i.e., the lay of the land, should provide even more crucial insights into the dynamics of Afghan society.