This was brilliant. I wish I had seen it years ago. I’m a former career Australian Army officer who did three tours of Afghanistan, the first in 2002. Later my son also joined the Army and he did two tours. I had always wanted to understand the Afghan tribal system, their approach to Islam, relationships between ethnic groups etc etc. I found this lecture the day the US withdrew from Afghanistan. How’s that for irony. I think God was playing a joke on me.
Australian soldiers were known to commit some war crimes and i always wondered why would anyone in Australia sign up to go there. The country was never attacked or threatened by them but the sheer will of Australia soldiers to go there and fight that foreign war always surprised me as to why
I spent 3 years in Afghanistan in the late 1970s and another year 1997-98 as a health care provider working with a Nongovernmental organization. I became quite functional in Farsi and had good friends that were Afghan that didn't speak English and were not westernized. I worked with them, traveled with them and spent time in their homes. There's little in this presentation that I would challenge. Time and effort can be rewarding in coming to a better understanding but felt you could never "understand "Afghanistan there are a few points I would like to make with the US withdrawal in mind and the errors that resulted in this 20 year disaster. 1. We taught the Afghans it was about money with CIA personel coming in with palets of US currency. 2. We thought we could win with technology. 3. Placing too much importance in written agreements, contracts, organization and procedures and not understanding the importance of establishing relationships and trust. 4. Success can not be achieved with short term tours of partners. Of course there is much more but I'll stop here.
Being a South Asian, I could relate to that. White people are perceived as if they have lot of money. I felt the desperation Afghans showed at Kabul airport, was more of an once time life time opportunity to settle down in America and live better lives than fear of dying at the hands of Taliban. At a stand up comedy, an Indian comedian said that biggest social achievement Indians achieve is when they get out of India (and settle down in western countries). Indians settled in western countries, are treated like elites and get higher level of respect and ridicule as well (similiar to ridicules posh people get in UK). I grew up in India. My understanding through Indians about white people is that white people are only admired for their money and easier access to sex life they have. That's the only things Indians wish for from white people. An average Indian do not care about other western values like individualism and respect for other people's wishes to live their lives at their own terms.
Excellent talk. Was he ever asked to brief the Pentagon before or during the US entry into Afghanistan? We seem to have very few of these high quality, deeply field-experienced anthropologists here in the USA
That's not what the Pentagon interests because this is not what the Pentagon does. The Pentagon is pretty much responsible for the military branch and organising the military. The Pentagon itself does not decide when and how to use the military though and they are not involved in politics. The United States is not a military state. Shown by the fact that the Pentagon can not declare war or even start military operations without approval from the president and congress first. So what you should ask is, has any president ever got such a briefing? And I somehow can not imagine that ever really happend ...
Yes. I agree. He is excelente. He has cognitive, biological, geography (social ecology) psychological and factual historic approaches. Not only economics and politics but altogether. Excellent folk. Brazil Russia
@@kazkaskazkas8689 I don't like Biden, he at least to advisors. Trump admin didn't even listen to his allies. Only pundit who has been honest. Malcom Nance who under stood culture, ethnic and tribal differences he was at least honest. Context is important. I don't don't affiliate party.
@@area609joe2 Trumo might have been bad (including on Afghanistan) but Biden is so much worse. He's the one after all who handed the country back to the Taliban.
@@str.77 Honestly I can break it down. It might take me a few hours thou. If your blaming Biden as President your wrong. If you think he has responsibility as VP then maybe you understand. Not understanding the culture and history in context, Not understanding how NATO countries run their government. If Boris Johnson is prime minister and we ignore him and go to labor make verbal agreement to fight terrorism together. What the admin saw as an exit plan Afghans saw as the United States finally recognized the Taliban as political party and the Afghan government failure. Our knew that treating Taliban as a shadow government. America first had consequences. We either didn't listen or ignored the facts. I don't expect you to m ow any of this. Most Americans don't most of my fellow marines don't. The Taliban offered to surrender disarm and bin laden over to a 3rd party country. Bin laden was a guest in that country and were not allies of the Taliban. Taliban card a outside of Afghanistan, BJJ. Laden cared about United in Saudi Arabia. This isn't a debate. I can shoot down every pundits argument you been watching on tv. You been lied to. 2 years the Agfan papers were released. If blaming this admin for anything, were you been for 20 years. I can and fact everything I have said. It's not my opinion. Its SIGAR. That's the inspector of Afghanistan. If you civil cool, you blame Biden who I actually have reasons to no like you don't have facts. War could have been over in 2001 bush said no. Where did you serve Afghanistan? Im a marine, you must have served and understand Trump doing children being sexually abused? Is that Biden's fault to? U don't know about either. Military let boys be rapped? What do you know tell me please. www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
I'll never forget my buddy who went over there in the Army many years ago. he told me something I had never heard before. he said, "man, there are some parts of Afghanistan that are more beautiful than you can even imagine"
30:35 "Islam might have come out of the Arab world, but when it gets to the Persian world it gets refitted" LOoOL a truer historic reading has ever been uttered!
which is why the rest of the Islamic world didn't adopt much Persianate Culture . Persians accepted Islam begrudgingly and Allah subsequently punished them with Turko-Mongol yoke. (Turks kept Islam quite orthodox thankfully for the Ummah).
Boqoreh Precision Persians didn’t accept it they were forced to submit to it during the islamic conquests into India. They fought to maintain Zoroastrianism and Persian culture and failed
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I m from Afghnisan, I call my self persian Tajik. My grandmother is Pashtun. My mother in law is a pashtun and also my uncle wife's is a Hazara. My best friends are Hazarah and Pashtun. One of the point you did not mention is the family relation between these tribes. I see Tajiks a kind of bridge between all afghans, they have same believe with pashtuns and same language with Hazaras
Exactly that's the trick of how the west strikes pre-emptive. The West attacks it's self blame another then they have mainstream approval to " defend" when it's actually an offense
The fucking hilarious thing is that the "conspiracy" he's talking about was probably correct. Also, he's being disingenuous here. He's making it sound like a "debunking" means that Afghanis have accepted that the premise of the "conspiracy theory" is false and act anyways, when in reality they probably just don't find the rebuttal convincing. Who's doing the "debunking" here? Some western journalist working for institutional mass media? Some US army official? If a creationist "debunks" evolution and "proves" that Genesis is a "fact", are you now just acting based on falsehoods if you accept evolution? Of course not. The "debunking" is not convincing and the "fact" isn't actually a fact, that's just a buzzword. The same thing goes for US mass media and universities.
This is a really good lecture. I wish more people could see things from an Afghan perspective - this barely scratches the surface, but it lays bare the fact that the rest of the world just assumes the people of Afghanistan think and feel and organize themselves the way other countries/communities in the region do.
OMG !! I’m from Afghanistan, Hazara tribe and this professor explained the best way possible, even far way better then our Afghan history professor back in school days and every thing he says is true, I literally amazed by him 😅he knows even very small details about AFG Great explanations !👏
yeah, bro. They even know more than each one us.. when USSR and USA was competing over Afghanistan, both of them investigated about Afghanistan, and they used this diversity. For instance, when Dawood was the king, initially he was closer whit USSR, but later for some reasons he tended to have closer political relations with USA; therefore, USSR used another person by the name of Noor Muhammak and killed Dawood and his family. You know bro, it is obvious that our country contains variety of nations and tribes, and I am very proud of it. However, recently, we are separated by name of religion, tribe, language, area, and many other reasons, which is really bad for our future... Though if we raise our awareness, and if we accept each other, we can be great nation again. .. Everybody should know this: آسیا پیکر آب و گِل است ملت افغان در پیکر دل است از فساد او فساد آسیا از گشاد او گشاد آسیا
As an Afghan, I would say it is extremely well stated. I am surprised for the first time ever in my life watching a foreigner who has very deep understanding of Afghanistan 🇦🇫.
Living in Canada since childhood, its great to learn more about my beautiful country Afghanistan 🇦🇫 ❤. Hoping I can go and see the places that my parents, grandparents and ancestors lived and made a living. I am from the Tajik tribe. All humanity is equal and what's important is for everyone to live happily and in peace. Great informative video.
@@shahbanunilofartajik i hear you. I know litttle about all this. I heard a Malcolm Nance interview 2..3 days ago. Then so fat listened to half (so far) of a long lecture from Yale yesterday and I started this today. You dont know me but please, I would like you to give me more to read or listen to. Thank you.
Fabulous lecture - well done!! Clearly this Professor has huge knowledge born of experience, but more than that, his style of delivery is so interesting snd compelling. I now understand so much more about the country
I learned more about my people and culture then i ever imagined. As a mix afghan (tajik mother, hazara/pashtune Persianise father) its really eye opening about my past, cause I can relate to all that he mentions. Even though I am mix child, I am still pulled to one side of a tribe and religious sect, since I refer to myself as kabuli and sunni, which goes to show the ethnic identity is strong. Also this talk forgot to mention all the racism/prejudice discriminations in the society. all round a fascinating talk, just praying that stability reaches my land as oppose to extremism.
Beyond the Mark Hamill resemblance, this man has a lot of valuable insight for beginners. The geography has a strong influence on the social and political norms that develop and the culture that congeals around it. It is an amazing place with amazing people, struggling in these difficult times.
@@SeanT649 I meant those that are for the first time beginning research on Afghanistan. But actually it is also excellent for everyone, since there are some people that have worked and lived there and have not yet grasped the insight of Professor Barfield.
@Amy Callis In this case, I disagree, since he is adding a special type of insight value beyond mapping. If it is for a complete, comprehensive course, yeah, you're right. It's just super insightful what he is saying.
@Amy Callis I just think you're not giving the man a fair shot. He's not supposed to entertain you with graphics or visuals, but to explain what is going on. It's free, and for someone like me that worked five years in AFGH, his stuff is golden and not something that everyone gets. It's not supposed to be a comprehensive course or training or something for the unserious who need gimmicks to keep their attention, but a solid, good intro into the dynamics related to ethnicity in AFGH. When people complain that the audio wasn't good enough or the colors were this or that, or that there were no maps, I just roll my eyes.
Coming from a Scottish family this is all very familiar! My ex girlfriend was up in the highlands and knocked on a bed and breakfast house (they saw a sign up) , and the lady who answered “your not campbells are you? No they replied , “you can come in then”
@@003mohamud Hello Samatar , I agree it can be unhealthy, I also think in some countries there can be a surplus population if the land is not good farmland, then people either leave or have endless fighting. I think that is what has been the history of Afghanistan. But they have many cleaver people and I wish them peace and happiness in the future. I understand that in the past Muslim world was very advanced in philosophy and mathematics. Time to be great again. What do you think of Haile Selassie from Ethiopia?
@@davidgray3321 I also wish peace in the Muslim world. As for Haile, so long as the Ogaden remains under Ethiopian control I will not have a positive view of any early-modern or modern Ethiopian leader. The peoples of Ethiopia I have a positive view of though.
This lecture was very close to accurate. I think one of the reasons that we made/make in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 is that we accept just governmental history. This lecture is look base on facts.
For some one to be so educated and accept citizenship of a middle age country which doesn't even exist, he would have to be bitten by a rabid dog, stoned and fucking boozed all together at once and even then he would have second thoughts.
Man, I was TRIPPING out at how similar the stuff he was saying was to what I had read on the subject. Then, I realized he was the author of the book. Great book, great lecture.
Ali was never the founder of the Shia sect. His knowledge in that department is totally wrong, even the Shia never claim that. Ali is the fourth Khalif of Sunni Islam, but Thomes did not know that.
All what he says and doubts are almost true about Afghanistan. But as Hazaras, Uzbek, Pashtun and Tajik we can’t accept these facts and figures, because we desire more authority and power in Afghanistan for our ethnicity, in order to have more power we express us more about population and history or mostly exaggerating and even Lying about our people.
Good point about Nawruz (Zoroastrian) holiday that Arabs had to recognize because people would not accept other-way. Other fact you forgot to mention that first time in the history of Islam, holy Koran was translated to foreign language and it was tajik (dari) language in Bukhara in order to attract tajiks-afghans-persians and even first Juma namaz was in Persian language. Majority of the Sunni Muslims are followers of Imam Abu Hanafia, his ancestors were tajiks from Afghanistan, Imam Al Bukhari one of the greatest Hadith recorder(?). If you go to Chechen republic they are followers of Sufi Naqshbandi who was tajik from Bukhara. Tajik Afghan Persian world had huge impact on Islam through poetry literature that's why we understand Islam more than just religion it's our poetry literature culture. The word Namaz is not Arabic , or Roza or even celebrating Nawruz as new year and main holiday says a lot.
so your telling me muhammad (saw) spoke persian. if you have any islamic knowledge you would know 1) the prophet was illiterate and 2) the 1st jumah was in quba (near madinah) so nwhy would the prophet speak persian to arabs and finally the prophet didnt know persian. non arabs only say "namaz" and "roza"
I'm from🇸🇴Somalia🇸🇴Somali tribe. the professor understands very well about tribes, specifically identity clan or small depends on the issue or who you ask. when it's Ethiopia 🇪🇹 ethnics have another meaning.
Somali society is clan based, the trouble with Somalia is that in the absence, between the darod, the issaq, etc etc, a common understanding of brotherhood, clanism meant that the only political options of strengths were the extremists of the communists or the Saudi/wahabbi Islamist movement extremists.
At least now the mystery of Luke Skywalker’s whereabouts between Episodes VI and VIII has been solved. He was busy studying the ethnic groups of Afghanistan
Fascinating lecture - what I found really interesting was that almost everything he said applied equally to my own country and my experiences in it. The fragmented society, the lack of clearly defined groups, the unasked and unanswered contradictions, truths that exist because "we say it's true", solidarity against outsiders but returning to old internecine disputes when left alone...I have lived within several different ethnic groups in my country and observed the same issues and ways of dealing with them in all of them. Perhaps what Thomas Barfield describes is actually a clearer way of looking at my own country also; guess where I live!
@@theoutlook55 Born in England of mixed English, Irish and Jewish stock. Spent twenty five years in the Hebrides, my kids consider themselves Scottish. Also live and worked in Kenya, now moving to Wales - for how long I am not sure. I don't really feel that attached to any clump of soil, I have the right to various passports but I rarely consider the question of nationality. That's why this lecture was so fascinating - I came to it hoping to learn more about what I thought were an alien people, only to realise how similar they are to many of the folk I know.
‘Tribal and Religious Identity in USA’ would be an interesting social/anthropological vid too. But at the end of the day people don’t like having bombs dropped on them, they observe, witness, remember...
One thing, Uzbeks and Turkmen are speakers of TURKIC languages NOT Turkish. Not the same thing. Turkic is the language family (or group), Turkish is ONE langauge in this grouping. All turkic langauges aren't entirely mutually intelligible. It's same thing with German and Germanic. Both English and German are Germanic langauges, but English is not German.
I imagine the Afghan farmers growing the crop, and their low-level buyers, see several orders of magnitude less than that number you quoted, hence the industry may play a smaller role in organizing Afghan politics than your figure suggests, but it's an important omission nevertheless from an otherwise very insightful lecture.
When around 35:00 he explains the circular logic of 'being a good muslim' in Afghanistan, I am suddenly struck with the thought - they kinda found each other with the American christian fundamentalists? 'Cos they use the same circular logic and ignorance to claim that they are good Christians?...
Yep it's a human feature not of a particulat religion but how we all rationalize our actions. A mundane example ispeople saying they are good drivers and when they fuck up there always being a reason for it not related to their skills.
We are TÜRKMEN Oguz Türks from northern and northwest of Afghanistan.Thank you for sharing informative ethnic group of Afghanistan. Long life Afghanistan.🇦🇫💂♂️💝🌹
@@walid3207 Of course we are Turks not you! Your 1st tribal leader were a loyal soldier of our last Empire Nader Shah Afshar. So you have gotten power by us don't forget the history of the great Seljuk, Ghaznavid, Kharizmed, Mongols, Timored , and Safevid and the last one Afshars. I also like respect Ahmad Shah Durani and Mahmoud Hotak, Shah Amanullah Ghazi, And President Sardar Mohammad Dawood khan.
Every single Turk ethnicity that was living in Afghanistan Are as much as Afghans like the pushtuns are respect your fellow country men’s and you will get respect. Don’t separate one another spread love
@@walid3207 After last king Nader Shah Afshar Khorasan became apart and still during Ahmad Shah Durani Afghanistan was big and great. But, unfortunately the King family became weaker and has lost some part of territory
Hey, Ive been looking everywhere to talk to an Afgh.ani person, and specifically a Hazari perspective on everything going on. My country is very censored and I cannot find your perspective anywhere. Is there any way we could talk? I see through our prop.*ganda. Excuse the use of periods and stars in this; it's the only way this will stay up, unfortunately. Hope ur having a nice day though!
@@waynedombrowski7568 Do you have an Instagram or any alternative way that we could talk? I'd love your perspective on everything and learn from you. Thanks so much, hope you are doing well.
@@siim605 It's sadly ironic that states with a high proportion of claimants to "defenders of freedom" status are many of the same states that fought a treasonous war in defense of slavery.
Basically trying to build a nation in Afghanistan in the image of Western society was never going to work in the first place due to centuries of ingrained tribal cultural mindset. This explained why everything the West built up in Afghanistan over two decades, collapsed within less than a month the moment the West decided to withdraw.
This combined with Pakistani support of the Taliban. Without them there is no tribal force to overthrow the government. But yes tribes matter. The US had great success in Germany, Japan and Korea because there was already a national identity to cling to. For Afghanistan it could've been built up over a few generations but the existence of the Taliban derailed that.
You are wrong about Hazara , they are third largest group after Tajik . And they are divided by speaking accents . They have been the peaceful of all and the educated of all now a days .
HINDU IS NON HISTORIC TERM...HINDU WAS NEVER ANY RELIGIOUS IDENTITY IT IS seen TODAY ....Dalits Adivasis shudras south indian non Brahmins were all from Dravidian tribe....then aryas conquered and ruled northern region of indo pak and made barnas and gotras to make tribalism more stronger in those times
This helped to make everything as clear as mud, but it covered the subject very well, not long ago I watch a documentary about Afghanistan when Buddhism existed there, the producer obviously understood how to navigate the complex system, by honoring those who were were in charge each step of the way, in order to make his film, that when in whatever region of the country, do as they do, respect their customs, respect the people…and they will tolerate your intrusion with curiosity, etc, no wonder our attempts to change Afghanistan ended as it did…our leaders never really understood Afghanistan complexity, it is what it is, Peace
Well pashtuns are maybe the calmest group in Afghanistan, because the name Afghan is actually just another name for Pashton And the pashtons on the Pakistani side are historicaly and genetically Afghan.
Arman Ahmadzai How are they the calmest when they have caused majority of the unrest??? Bombings??? Killings?? Majority of the Pashtuns are either Taliban, Daesh or belong to other terrorist groups!!
Fantastic! Hugely impressed by the content, delivery and presentation. And the logic works in northern India too (up to Punjab/himachal/Hill states. Well done, Sir!
I've been watching a few of these lectures since the retreat of America from Afghanistan, but they are all from 2012 or so. I really want to see something more updated, maybe from 2020?
Extremely instructive 9 years later in understanding why the Afghan military melted away so quickly when confronted by the Taliban in 2021. There was no pragmatic reason to stay and fight, and no nationalist sentiment to rally the troops behind.
Israeli servants ruled us, that is, freemasons ruled, now Iranian servants rule us. He gave us our fresh water for free to Iran, and one day he will give an account to the Afghans.
I born In Iran as pashton and we lived there for 20 years. But all our family speak perfectly pashto and farsi. I want forget Farsi lanavauge now by purpose because i dont need it anymore. I started learning pashto writin and reading from youtube. I am proud to be pashton I will never forget My lanavauge, culture, leaders and hiatory.
L'Afghanistan est le pays du trafic de drogue, de la corruption, du racisme, du terrorisme, de la ségrégation sexuelle, de l'intimidation, de la pauvreté et des mensonges. L'actuel président de l'Afghanistan est juste un autre belliciste fantasmagorique comme ses frères biologiques Talibans afghans(pashtons). C'est très triste de voir que notre mère terre "Ariana", le centre d'une grande civilisation, le berceau de la langue perse, de la première religion monotiste zoroastrienne, des scientifiques, des astronomes, des historiens, des philosophes, etc tombe entre les mains d’Afghans (pashtons) qui ne connaissent rien à part les attentats-suicides, le trafic de l’opium et le fanatisme. En effet au cours des trois cents dernières années, les Afghans(Pashtons) ont régné sur le Grand Khorasan "sunrise land" (ancien nom D'Afghanistan)avec l'aide des Anglais. Et nous n'avons assisté qu'à une expansion et à un développement énorme des cimetières. L'identité "Afghane" est une fausse identité que nous a été donnée par le Royaume-Uni, "East Indian Company". Notre véritable identité est le persan, notre langue est le persan et notre pays est le Grand Khorasan "Le pays où le soleil lève". Nous serons libérés de cette prison sanglante pour avoir un pays moderne, démocratique et paisible... اشغال خطرناک و تباه کننده! ===================== (از صفحات «تولد دوباره هویت و اقتدار تاجیکان») 🔸 جریان اشغال سرزمین های تاجیکان توسط افغان های کوههای سلیمان که دارای زندگی قبیلوی بودند، با آهستگی و در جریان چند سده به صورت تدریجی و خزنده صورت گرفته، تاجیک ها را به بردگی کشانیده و به قرون وسطی سوق دادند؛ اما اشغال روس ها و انگلیس ها که زندگی پیشرفته تری داشتند، نسبتا سریع و آشکار صورت گرفته و با آوردن علم و تکنالوٰژي تا اندازه ای باعث رشد مردم آنجا ها هم گردیده بود... 🔸 واقعیت تلخ این است که افغان ها نه باشندگان یا مهاجران، بلکه اشغال گران اصلی سرزمین های خراسان - به خصوص تاجیکان اند. تهاجم عرب ها، ترک ها و مغل ها باعث گسترش زبان و فرهنگ پارسی از استانبول تا کلکته می شود.تجاوز انگلیس و روس باعث ورود دانش و تکنولوژی (راه آهن) به این سرزمین ها می گردد.
great talk, but Alexander the Great was 4th century BC, not a thousand BC;Just finished watching and enjoying Thomas Barfield's talk. It opened my eyes to a new Afghanistan I didn't know before. I wish every teacher in the world were like him. Many Thanks!!!
The only info u need on pashtuns and afghanistan is that 1) pashhtund are the actual or ethnic Afghans. 2) the founded the country under the tribes . AFGHANistan 3) pashtuns r tribal people and ho ourbale people
Great lecture. I never realized how much we looked at Afghanistan through European cultural values. I always tended to view Afghan ethnicity is a fashion similar to Yugo ethnicity.
The State Department should have been required to see this video back when it was created and maybe the outcome of the Afghanistan War may have had a better outcome.
When I was deployed near gardez, the terp explained to us that the truck drivers were speaking in Persian in order to belittle the laborers. The laborers we're not literate and couldn't understand Persian. The lack of motivation for education was bizarre. Many of the laborers had been in areas with free education but had never bothered learning to read.
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It's good to see that Mark Hamil had a career beyond playing Luke Skywalker.
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Ikr !!! Wow
Well tatoine where he grew up was similar
Absolute ringer !
He needs to go there and destroy the dark side!
This was brilliant. I wish I had seen it years ago. I’m a former career Australian Army officer who did three tours of Afghanistan, the first in 2002. Later my son also joined the Army and he did two tours. I had always wanted to understand the Afghan tribal system, their approach to Islam, relationships between ethnic groups etc etc. I found this lecture the day the US withdrew from Afghanistan. How’s that for irony. I think God was playing a joke on me.
Thank you for your service brother 💪🙏👍❤️✌️ greetings from the Northern Peruvian Amazon Jungle 🌴🌴🌴
Goes to show e why you guys ultimately failed in Afghanistan
Australian soldiers were known to commit some war crimes and i always wondered why would anyone in Australia sign up to go there. The country was never attacked or threatened by them but the sheer will of Australia soldiers to go there and fight that foreign war always surprised me as to why
@Ming Chen probably
@@justadude9110 because you only joint the army to legally babykill and rape. Its full of psychos
It's interesting watching this just after the US left Afghanistan last week.
it also explains why everyone just surrendered to the taliban. there is no united resistance.
Me too
I wish more folks would watch this. The news is so lacking
@@TheOfficialGLXY like do you expect anything else from the news ??
@@RiamCute News is mostly propaganda- left or right.
I spent 3 years in Afghanistan in the late 1970s and another year 1997-98 as a health care provider working with a Nongovernmental organization. I became quite functional in Farsi and had good friends that were Afghan that didn't speak English and were not westernized. I worked with them, traveled with them and spent time in their homes. There's little in this presentation that I would challenge. Time and effort can be rewarding in coming to a better understanding but felt you could never "understand "Afghanistan there are a few points I would like to make with the US withdrawal in mind and the errors that resulted in this 20 year disaster.
1. We taught the Afghans it was about money with CIA personel coming in with palets of US currency.
2. We thought we could win with technology.
3. Placing too much importance in written agreements, contracts, organization and procedures and not understanding the importance of establishing relationships and trust.
4. Success can not be achieved with short term tours of partners.
Of course there is much more but I'll stop here.
Being a South Asian, I could relate to that. White people are perceived as if they have lot of money. I felt the desperation Afghans showed at Kabul airport, was more of an once time life time opportunity to settle down in America and live better lives than fear of dying at the hands of Taliban. At a stand up comedy, an Indian comedian said that biggest social achievement Indians achieve is when they get out of India (and settle down in western countries). Indians settled in western countries, are treated like elites and get higher level of respect and ridicule as well (similiar to ridicules posh people get in UK).
I grew up in India. My understanding through Indians about white people is that white people are only admired for their money and easier access to sex life they have. That's the only things Indians wish for from white people. An average Indian do not care about other western values like individualism and respect for other people's wishes to live their lives at their own terms.
Chip, I love Pt. 3👏🏻👏🏻
Sivan Suresh gosh people in Asia think we are doing it 24/7 lol
PLEASE KEEP GOING !!!! .. 100%
@@mecongberlin I'd love to hear a whole lot more about this.
Excellent talk. Was he ever asked to brief the Pentagon before or during the US entry into Afghanistan? We seem to have very few of these high quality, deeply field-experienced anthropologists here in the USA
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That's not what the Pentagon interests because this is not what the Pentagon does. The Pentagon is pretty much responsible for the military branch and organising the military. The Pentagon itself does not decide when and how to use the military though and they are not involved in politics. The United States is not a military state. Shown by the fact that the Pentagon can not declare war or even start military operations without approval from the president and congress first.
So what you should ask is, has any president ever got such a briefing? And I somehow can not imagine that ever really happend ...
Yes. I agree.
He is excelente. He has cognitive, biological, geography (social ecology) psychological and factual historic approaches. Not only economics and politics but altogether. Excellent folk.
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@@CrniWuk Yes you are technically right but you understand the necessity to have those type of experts in your presidential team.
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@@CrniWuk what? you mean the president can't watch youtube? /s
Top intellectual; doesn't oversimplify and when he does a little bit, he tells you to be careful.
no no no, I'd rather listen to what Biden or Trump have to say about it
I agree. He is excelente.
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@@kazkaskazkas8689 I don't like Biden, he at least to advisors. Trump admin didn't even listen to his allies. Only pundit who has been honest. Malcom Nance who under stood culture, ethnic and tribal differences he was at least honest. Context is important. I don't don't affiliate party.
@@area609joe2 Trumo might have been bad (including on Afghanistan) but Biden is so much worse. He's the one after all who handed the country back to the Taliban.
@@str.77 Honestly I can break it down. It might take me a few hours thou. If your blaming Biden as President your wrong. If you think he has responsibility as VP then maybe you understand.
Not understanding the culture and history in context, Not understanding how NATO countries run their government.
If Boris Johnson is prime minister and we ignore him and go to labor make verbal agreement to fight terrorism together. What the admin saw as an exit plan Afghans saw as the United States finally recognized the Taliban as political party and the Afghan government failure. Our knew that treating Taliban as a shadow government. America first had consequences. We either didn't listen or ignored the facts. I don't expect you to m ow any of this.
Most Americans don't most of my fellow marines don't.
The Taliban offered to surrender disarm and bin laden over to a 3rd party country. Bin laden was a guest in that country and were not allies of the Taliban. Taliban card a outside of Afghanistan, BJJ. Laden cared about United in Saudi Arabia. This isn't a debate. I can shoot down every pundits argument you been watching on tv. You been lied to. 2 years the Agfan papers were released. If blaming this admin for anything, were you been for 20 years. I can and fact everything I have said. It's not my opinion. Its SIGAR. That's the inspector of Afghanistan.
If you civil cool, you blame Biden who I actually have reasons to no like you don't have facts.
War could have been over in 2001 bush said no.
Where did you serve Afghanistan? Im a marine, you must have served and understand Trump doing children being sexually abused? Is that Biden's fault to? U don't know about either. Military let boys be rapped? What do you know tell me please.
www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
I'll never forget my buddy who went over there in the Army many years ago. he told me something I had never heard before. he said, "man, there are some parts of Afghanistan that are more beautiful than you can even imagine"
But no one wants American army there because you guys can't do stuff right you guys are the one who made Taliban.
"The Uzbeks lost because they fight after breakfast but the Soviet attacked at dawn."
That's by far the nicest way to call out someone is lazy 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
30:35 "Islam might have come out of the Arab world, but when it gets to the Persian world it gets refitted" LOoOL a truer historic reading has ever been uttered!
Judaism and Christianity are no different either.
*has never been uttered
which is why the rest of the Islamic world didn't adopt much Persianate Culture . Persians accepted Islam begrudgingly and Allah subsequently punished them with Turko-Mongol yoke. (Turks kept Islam quite orthodox thankfully for the Ummah).
Boqoreh Precision Persians didn’t accept it they were forced to submit to it during the islamic conquests into India. They fought to maintain Zoroastrianism and Persian culture and failed
@@NarasimhaDiyasena What did you think he meant by "begrudgingly"? 🙄
Damn this lecture is PRECISELY what I was looking for.
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
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As an Afghan Pashtun I am greatful for such insight into Afghanistan and it's people.
Are not they not the people of Moses. A lost tribe of Israel
@@fsbm1337 bghairtaa da commnts delet ka😠
@@hrr_ der kha ye wrta wele di . Sta pki sa kaar di
The comments prove the chaos within and around Afghanistan and it's region.
Pashton are lost trip of Israel actually, it's a fact.
I m from Afghnisan, I call my self persian Tajik. My grandmother is Pashtun. My mother in law is a pashtun and also my uncle wife's is a Hazara.
My best friends are Hazarah and Pashtun.
One of the point you did not mention is the family relation between these tribes.
I see Tajiks a kind of bridge between all afghans, they have same believe with pashtuns and same language with Hazaras
Afghanistan is of pashtuns bro.. tajikis and uzbeks can go to tajikistand and uzbekistan
@@walid3207 true
@@walid3207 not only pashtons I am to pashtons paktia Afghanistan for all muslims
@@tiktokgamingyt6942 we are majority bro
@@walid3207 you're only the majority in South Afghanistan, the most violence striken
"it doesn't have to be fact to get some people to act." This is true in Afghanistan as it is in the US.
Exactly that's the trick of how the west strikes pre-emptive. The West attacks it's self blame another then they have mainstream approval to " defend" when it's actually an offense
The fucking hilarious thing is that the "conspiracy" he's talking about was probably correct. Also, he's being disingenuous here. He's making it sound like a "debunking" means that Afghanis have accepted that the premise of the "conspiracy theory" is false and act anyways, when in reality they probably just don't find the rebuttal convincing. Who's doing the "debunking" here? Some western journalist working for institutional mass media? Some US army official?
If a creationist "debunks" evolution and "proves" that Genesis is a "fact", are you now just acting based on falsehoods if you accept evolution? Of course not. The "debunking" is not convincing and the "fact" isn't actually a fact, that's just a buzzword. The same thing goes for US mass media and universities.
@@thesecretkey9845 You and your cohorts here have the reasoning skills of Afghanis.
@@pats.6427 "oogabooga Gawd is real"
Shut up.
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
This is a really good lecture. I wish more people could see things from an Afghan perspective - this barely scratches the surface, but it lays bare the fact that the rest of the world just assumes the people of Afghanistan think and feel and organize themselves the way other countries/communities in the region do.
Cool. Now lose the soul patch. It doesn't do you any favors!
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
Each country views itself differently. Yet people tend to simplify things.
OMG !! I’m from Afghanistan, Hazara tribe and this professor explained the best way possible, even far way better then our Afghan history professor back in school days and every thing he says is true, I literally amazed by him 😅he knows even very small details about AFG
Great explanations !👏
yeah, bro. They even know more than each one us..
when USSR and USA was competing over Afghanistan, both of them investigated about Afghanistan, and they used this diversity. For instance, when Dawood was the king, initially he was closer whit USSR, but later for some reasons he tended to have closer political relations with USA; therefore, USSR used another person by the name of Noor Muhammak and killed Dawood and his family.
You know bro, it is obvious that our country contains variety of nations and tribes, and I am very proud of it. However, recently, we are separated by name of religion, tribe, language, area, and many other reasons, which is really bad for our future...
Though if we raise our awareness, and if we accept each other, we can be great nation again.
.. Everybody should know this:
آسیا پیکر آب و گِل است
ملت افغان در پیکر دل است
از فساد او فساد آسیا
از گشاد او گشاد آسیا
@@شهنشاهAmericans did this. They’re the biggest devils on earth.
As an Afghan, I would say it is extremely well stated. I am surprised for the first time ever in my life watching a foreigner who has very deep understanding of Afghanistan 🇦🇫.
Living in Canada since childhood, its great to learn more about my beautiful country Afghanistan 🇦🇫 ❤. Hoping I can go and see the places that my parents, grandparents and ancestors lived and made a living. I am from the Tajik tribe. All humanity is equal and what's important is for everyone to live happily and in peace.
Great informative video.
Tajiks are not a tribe nor tribal. Tajiks are a nation.
@@shahbanunilofartajik i hear you. I know litttle about all this. I heard a Malcolm Nance interview 2..3 days ago. Then so fat listened to half (so far) of a long lecture from Yale yesterday and I started this today.
You dont know me but please, I would like you to give me more to read or listen to. Thank you.
You do know Tajikistan is real.
Canada is the same
Do you now live there?
Fabulous lecture - well done!!
Clearly this Professor has huge knowledge born of experience, but more than that, his style of delivery is so interesting snd compelling. I now understand so much more about the country
I learned more about my people and culture then i ever imagined. As a mix afghan (tajik mother, hazara/pashtune Persianise father) its really eye opening about my past, cause I can relate to all that he mentions. Even though I am mix child, I am still pulled to one side of a tribe and religious sect, since I refer to myself as kabuli and sunni, which goes to show the ethnic identity is strong. Also this talk forgot to mention all the racism/prejudice discriminations in the society. all round a fascinating talk, just praying that stability reaches my land as oppose to extremism.
Don't worry. I got that, the racism.
@@latetodagame1892 lots of it
Hazaras are not pashtuns
Hello there. Are you out of Afghanistan now ?
@@piyushjaiswal9283 I never said they were, I am a multi ethnic person
Beyond the Mark Hamill resemblance, this man has a lot of valuable insight for beginners. The geography has a strong influence on the social and political norms that develop and the culture that congeals around it. It is an amazing place with amazing people, struggling in these difficult times.
Beginners at what ?
@@SeanT649 I meant those that are for the first time beginning research on Afghanistan. But actually it is also excellent for everyone, since there are some people that have worked and lived there and have not yet grasped the insight of Professor Barfield.
@Amy Callis there are tons of online ethnic maps of AFGH to complement his great insight. Those maps tell you only a little about dynamics.
@Amy Callis In this case, I disagree, since he is adding a special type of insight value beyond mapping. If it is for a complete, comprehensive course, yeah, you're right. It's just super insightful what he is saying.
@Amy Callis I just think you're not giving the man a fair shot. He's not supposed to entertain you with graphics or visuals, but to explain what is going on. It's free, and for someone like me that worked five years in AFGH, his stuff is golden and not something that everyone gets. It's not supposed to be a comprehensive course or training or something for the unserious who need gimmicks to keep their attention, but a solid, good intro into the dynamics related to ethnicity in AFGH. When people complain that the audio wasn't good enough or the colors were this or that, or that there were no maps, I just roll my eyes.
As an ethnic Appalachian, aka Christian Afghanistan, this sounds a lot like us, except we don't have the top-level ethnicities.
Ha! The last clip I watched on RUclips was _"Who are the Appalachians?" by Masaman_
Religion backed by delusion, delusion backed by religion, sounds about right
Mountain people have a lot in common worldwide.
@@tomd6053 *tips fedora* take this upvote my good sir!!!
Is it that religiously divided? I always assumed that the lines between those families we drawn based on pretenses of previous national identity
Coming from a Scottish family this is all very familiar! My ex girlfriend was up in the highlands and knocked on a bed and breakfast house (they saw a sign up) , and the lady who answered “your not campbells are you? No they replied , “you can come in then”
Im from somalia and we also have a clan system. It just leads to record breaking nepotism and endless clan feuds.
@@003mohamud Hello Samatar , I agree it can be unhealthy, I also think in some countries there can be a surplus population if the land is not good farmland, then people either leave or have endless fighting. I think that is what has been the history of Afghanistan. But they have many cleaver people and I wish them peace and happiness in the future. I understand that in the past Muslim world was very advanced in philosophy and mathematics. Time to be great again.
What do you think of Haile Selassie from Ethiopia?
@@davidgray3321 I also wish peace in the Muslim world. As for Haile, so long as the Ogaden remains under Ethiopian control I will not have a positive view of any early-modern or modern Ethiopian leader. The peoples of Ethiopia I have a positive view of though.
This lecture was very close to accurate. I think one of the reasons that we made/make in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 is that we accept just governmental history. This lecture is look base on facts.
Thank you for respecting afghans thinking they are certainly wonderful muslim althogh im a hindu
Decentralized government is the answer, hence why Islam allows shoora to select their leader:
A very interesting and informative lecture. Professor Barfield is brilliant.
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
Amazing talk! This is way better in the background than any podcast
Yup, intellectual lectures by academics at the top of their field> stupid youtube or podcast personalities who thinks their opinion is right
As a disabled/homebound person who has given up on the news that was Enlightening!🎈
I loooooove listening to someone with actually experience and not just he said she said :)
Excellent lecture, and a nice delivery too. Afghanistan is such an intriguing place, I wish all it’s people well. 🙏
For some one to be so educated and accept citizenship of a middle age country which doesn't even exist, he would have to be bitten by a rabid dog, stoned and fucking boozed all together at once and even then he would have second thoughts.
Man, I was TRIPPING out at how similar the stuff he was saying was to what I had read on the subject. Then, I realized he was the author of the book. Great book, great lecture.
This was such an amazing lecture. Thank you for sharing this with the world.
Ali was never the founder of the Shia sect. His knowledge in that department is totally wrong, even the Shia never claim that. Ali is the fourth Khalif of Sunni Islam, but Thomes did not know that.
All what he says and doubts are almost true about Afghanistan. But as Hazaras, Uzbek, Pashtun and Tajik we can’t accept these facts and figures, because we desire more authority and power in Afghanistan for our ethnicity, in order to have more power we express us more about population and history or mostly exaggerating and even Lying about our people.
Good point about Nawruz (Zoroastrian) holiday that Arabs had to recognize because people would not accept other-way. Other fact you forgot to mention that first time in the history of Islam, holy Koran was translated to foreign language and it was tajik (dari) language in Bukhara in order to attract tajiks-afghans-persians and even first Juma namaz was in Persian language.
Majority of the Sunni Muslims are followers of Imam Abu Hanafia, his ancestors were tajiks from Afghanistan, Imam Al Bukhari one of the greatest Hadith recorder(?). If you go to Chechen republic they are followers of Sufi Naqshbandi who was tajik from Bukhara. Tajik Afghan Persian world had huge impact on Islam through poetry literature that's why we understand Islam more than just religion it's our poetry literature culture. The word Namaz is not Arabic , or Roza or even celebrating Nawruz as new year and main holiday says a lot.
so your telling me muhammad (saw) spoke persian. if you have any islamic knowledge you would know 1) the prophet was illiterate and 2) the 1st jumah was in quba (near madinah) so nwhy would the prophet speak persian to arabs and finally the prophet didnt know persian. non arabs only say "namaz" and "roza"
Abu Hanifa was Tajik? lol.
@@TheAfghan72 what then?
@@TheAfghan72 imam sab tajik all imam sab love you,,,
mans talking out of his ass
"The Iranians, they speak Persian very funny" lmao
Funny thing is they do. Afghan persian sounds way more normal. Iranians sound like they have a British accent somehow.
@@alexiveperez4687 wat
@POtusq add I learned persian in kabul. Only people in Mashhad and such places sound normal to me.
@POtusq add Herati to me sounds half way to Iranian yes. I think it depends on the person also maybe.
I'm proud to be Tajik and i respect to all my country tribes and love them ✊🏻👏🏻❤️💐💖💕💖💐💝 we are together
Same
Yes bro manana
@@khanjaaan5800 afghanisfan is of pashtun
@@walid3207 You are a poor educated you don't know history.
@@shah.w go baxk to turkmenistan
I'm from🇸🇴Somalia🇸🇴Somali tribe. the professor understands very well about tribes, specifically identity clan or small depends on the issue or who you ask. when it's Ethiopia 🇪🇹 ethnics have another meaning.
Somali society is clan based, the trouble with Somalia is that in the absence, between the darod, the issaq, etc etc, a common understanding of brotherhood, clanism meant that the only political options of strengths were the extremists of the communists or the Saudi/wahabbi Islamist movement extremists.
At least now the mystery of Luke Skywalker’s whereabouts between Episodes VI and VIII has been solved. He was busy studying the ethnic groups of Afghanistan
William Forsythe
Afganistan may as well be Tatooine desert planet .
@@jowlorenz9555 I always thought the Hazara people are basically the Jawa of Central Asia
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
THomas Barfield is just wildly insightful, holy shit.
He aint no Tom Garfield, holy spider 🕷
Hopefully his grade school name wasn't 'Barf.'
Very informative and intriguing lecture, thanks.
Very interesting
I studied pre modern history at university and so these ideas remind me of the societies i did study
Perfect, I am from Afghanistan, Professor knows about Afghanistan more than us❤
Fascinating lecture - what I found really interesting was that almost everything he said applied equally to my own country and my experiences in it. The fragmented society, the lack of clearly defined groups, the unasked and unanswered contradictions, truths that exist because "we say it's true", solidarity against outsiders but returning to old internecine disputes when left alone...I have lived within several different ethnic groups in my country and observed the same issues and ways of dealing with them in all of them. Perhaps what Thomas Barfield describes is actually a clearer way of looking at my own country also; guess where I live!
Sounds like the UK .... could be virtually anywhere. Well-stated analysis though!
What is your own country, now that you bring it up?
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@@theoutlook55 Born in England of mixed English, Irish and Jewish stock. Spent twenty five years in the Hebrides, my kids consider themselves Scottish. Also live and worked in Kenya, now moving to Wales - for how long I am not sure. I don't really feel that attached to any clump of soil, I have the right to various passports but I rarely consider the question of nationality. That's why this lecture was so fascinating - I came to it hoping to learn more about what I thought were an alien people, only to realise how similar they are to many of the folk I know.
@@markpartridge378 👍🏿
This guy knows everything about Afghanistan he should get his Afghan citizenship 🇦🇫👍
Afghan fights in home like to brothers ,,,one mother sons,,,,,,I love you my lovely Afghanistan ,,,,,
Uh.......😐
Or be the “Afghan” cultural advisor to U.S…..
It’s good to know that Afghans approve
I don’t think anyone wants to move to Afghanistan bro
‘Tribal and Religious Identity in USA’ would be an interesting social/anthropological vid too.
But at the end of the day people don’t like having bombs dropped on them, they observe, witness, remember...
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One thing, Uzbeks and Turkmen are speakers of TURKIC languages NOT Turkish. Not the same thing.
Turkic is the language family (or group), Turkish is ONE langauge in this grouping. All turkic langauges aren't entirely mutually intelligible.
It's same thing with German and Germanic.
Both English and German are Germanic langauges, but English is not German.
Mutually intelligible. Turkic language spread out of Central Asia towards Turkey but Turkish like US English is the dominate form of the language.
@@lsunav my turkish friends are not able to fully understand Kazakh and Kyrgyz
I dated a kyrgyz girl who understood Kazak but NOT turkish.
"Afghanistan's greatest export is rugs" cut to 2021, Afghanistan produces 90% of the world's heroin supply, valued in excess of $100,000,000,000
Isn't that the real reason the US was there - so the CIA could capture the poppy fields to fund their black ops? Probably Nato and Mossad as well.
I imagine the Afghan farmers growing the crop, and their low-level buyers, see several orders of magnitude less than that number you quoted, hence the industry may play a smaller role in organizing Afghan politics than your figure suggests, but it's an important omission nevertheless from an otherwise very insightful lecture.
No one buys there heroin anymore it's all fentenal from china
@@lesroesch yeah just throw out some theory without any evidence, why not throw in the free masons and illuminati as well?
@@captainalex157 Nice try.
When around 35:00 he explains the circular logic of 'being a good muslim' in Afghanistan, I am suddenly struck with the thought - they kinda found each other with the American christian fundamentalists? 'Cos they use the same circular logic and ignorance to claim that they are good Christians?...
Yep it's a human feature not of a particulat religion but how we all rationalize our actions.
A mundane example ispeople saying they are good drivers and when they fuck up there always being a reason for it not related to their skills.
We are TÜRKMEN Oguz Türks from northern and northwest of Afghanistan.Thank you for sharing informative ethnic group of Afghanistan. Long life Afghanistan.🇦🇫💂♂️💝🌹
You are not afghan.. pashtuns are real afghan
@@walid3207 Of course we are Turks not you! Your 1st tribal leader were a loyal soldier of our last Empire Nader Shah Afshar. So you have gotten power by us don't forget the history of the great Seljuk, Ghaznavid, Kharizmed, Mongols, Timored , and Safevid and the last one Afshars. I also like respect Ahmad Shah Durani and Mahmoud Hotak, Shah Amanullah Ghazi, And President Sardar Mohammad Dawood khan.
Every single Turk ethnicity that was living in Afghanistan Are as much as Afghans like the pushtuns are respect your fellow country men’s and you will get respect. Don’t separate one another spread love
@@sahilovo1208 no. Pashtuns were and are ruling afghanistan for centuries
@@walid3207 After last king Nader Shah Afshar Khorasan became apart and still during Ahmad Shah Durani Afghanistan was big and great. But, unfortunately the King family became weaker and has lost some part of territory
About the Hazaras, they don’t only looks like Mangols but also like Turks und Uzbeks. Their language are Persian/ Hazaragi
Hazara is not Mongol do you understand
Is Hazaragi similar to Turkish?
@@patika.rebetika it’s 97% Persian like, so very minutely Turkic.
He wrote "Isamic" on the board rather than Islamic.
Really informative and thoughtful talk explaining some of the nuances.
Everyone who wants to understand Afghanistan should watch and listen to this lecture.
@GREATLIFESUCKS GREAT
Worry not.
There are, as you know,
more than one thing to spend time on.
I am Afghan Pashton i proud my Countryman Hazar,Tajik,Uzbek❤
I am a Hazara and I am proud of my Identity and my country
It might not happen in our lifetimes,but I am certain that someday Afghanistan will have a Hazara president.
isn't u monguls !?
@@waynedombrowski7568 never, we will surely prevent that.. pashtuns rule afghanistan nd that will always be the same
Hey, Ive been looking everywhere to talk to an Afgh.ani person, and specifically a Hazari perspective on everything going on. My country is very censored and I cannot find your perspective anywhere. Is there any way we could talk? I see through our prop.*ganda. Excuse the use of periods and stars in this; it's the only way this will stay up, unfortunately. Hope ur having a nice day though!
@@waynedombrowski7568 Do you have an Instagram or any alternative way that we could talk? I'd love your perspective on everything and learn from you. Thanks so much, hope you are doing well.
I am pashtun and thank you for information..you are to intellegent person...
the one student laughing at the jokes is my favorite person
@Ahmad خان 😅
@Ahmad خان 37 apparently and you did enough to comment you miserable human 😂😂
HAHAHAHA true
This was amazing work. As a Pashayi Pakhtun i enjoyed it
Pashai are pakhtuns so call yourself proud pakhtun or afghan
Great lecture. I learned much about myself and mine European history too.
A very clear and intelligent analysis, thanks for posting!
"It doesn't need to be fact to be inciteful." Describes the current tribalism in the dis-United States.
Not too far from rumour to mythology
I dont find such implied false equivalencies inciteful in the slightest much less factual.
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
Divided States.
@@siim605 It's sadly ironic that states with a high proportion of claimants to "defenders of freedom" status are many of the same states that fought a treasonous war in defense of slavery.
Sad that people are seeing this now. I haven't been able to get people to understand that the western idea of Afghanistan never existed.
Yup… ppl the past month going “why isnt anyone defending their country?!!!” Like maybe go get educated?
I love that this was randomly recommended to me
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
Basically trying to build a nation in Afghanistan in the image of Western society was never going to work in the first place due to centuries of ingrained tribal cultural mindset. This explained why everything the West built up in Afghanistan over two decades, collapsed within less than a month the moment the West decided to withdraw.
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
This combined with Pakistani support of the Taliban. Without them there is no tribal force to overthrow the government. But yes tribes matter. The US had great success in Germany, Japan and Korea because there was already a national identity to cling to. For Afghanistan it could've been built up over a few generations but the existence of the Taliban derailed that.
@@satoshinakamoto7253 Take them in Japan then and enjoy.
You are wrong about Hazara , they are third largest group after Tajik . And they are divided by speaking accents . They have been the peaceful of all and the educated of all now a days .
Amazing talk, thank you very much.
Sufism was the soft-way through which Hindus in India were converted to Islam.
Even now, Sufi shrines are visited by Hindus and Sikhs.
HINDU IS NON HISTORIC TERM...HINDU WAS NEVER ANY RELIGIOUS IDENTITY IT IS seen TODAY ....Dalits Adivasis shudras south indian non Brahmins were all from Dravidian tribe....then aryas conquered and ruled northern region of indo pak and made barnas and gotras to make tribalism more stronger in those times
This lecture should be required of all our leaders
In the confusion off afghanistan the professor Thomas has clear ideas , one more time thanks for the lesson
This helped to make everything as clear as mud, but it covered the subject very well, not long ago I watch a documentary about Afghanistan when Buddhism existed there, the producer obviously understood how to navigate the complex system, by honoring those who were were in charge each step of the way, in order to make his film, that when in whatever region of the country, do as they do, respect their customs, respect the people…and they will tolerate your intrusion with curiosity, etc, no wonder our attempts to change Afghanistan ended as it did…our leaders never really understood Afghanistan complexity, it is what it is, Peace
Well pashtuns are maybe the calmest group in Afghanistan, because the name Afghan is actually just another name for Pashton And the pashtons on the Pakistani side are historicaly and genetically Afghan.
Arman Ahmadzai How are they the calmest when they have caused majority of the unrest??? Bombings??? Killings?? Majority of the Pashtuns are either Taliban, Daesh or belong to other terrorist groups!!
Hence why Tajiks must unite to change the name of their country back to Khorasan from Afghanistan.
@@khadijamohammadi4521 pashtuns are not daesh or isis .isis is supported by Pakistan and now the tajik government
Lol 😂 tf is that suppose to mean
Fantastic! Hugely impressed by the content, delivery and presentation. And the logic works in northern India too (up to Punjab/himachal/Hill states. Well done, Sir!
I've been watching a few of these lectures since the retreat of America from Afghanistan, but they are all from 2012 or so. I really want to see something more updated, maybe from 2020?
Thomas explains this very complicated topic with ease, suggesting he really knows what he is talking about.
Extremely instructive 9 years later in understanding why the Afghan military melted away so quickly when confronted by the Taliban in 2021. There was no pragmatic reason to stay and fight, and no nationalist sentiment to rally the troops behind.
Israeli servants ruled us, that is, freemasons ruled, now Iranian servants rule us. He gave us our fresh water for free to Iran, and one day he will give an account to the Afghans.
Because our nation does not know what a mason is. The hardest to understand is he doesn't know Iran
I'm currently reading the history of Iran and Israel's henchmen, that is, masons.
I born In Iran as pashton and we lived there for 20 years. But all our family speak perfectly pashto and farsi. I want forget Farsi lanavauge now by purpose because i dont need it anymore. I started learning pashto writin and reading from youtube. I am proud to be pashton I will never forget My lanavauge, culture, leaders and hiatory.
u're racist
Appreciated
@@asmamhz3870 Pashtuns should neverr learn another langauge. Unless its their mother tounge first
Respect wror. Pashto for pashtuns
thanks, a dirty talib shouldn’t speak persian and taint our elegant language with that shitty southern accent ❤️
Afghanistan national language is Farsi so you Pashtuns must learn the language of Tajiks who are majority in there.
Quite an insightful lecture, kind of a coincidence I get this in my recommended videos given how up in the air things are over there at the minute
The most interesting lecture I ever heard about Afghanistan. Thanks !
Wow this guy is a phenomenal teacher!
Being mixture child of Tajik Father and Pushtoon mother. I must say whatever he said was 100% correct.
no
This guy is a true expert of AF, huge respect!
More like an expert in misleading people and trying to confuse people with his propaganda
@@jaymontana8454 can you timestamp and elaborate more on these points?
@@jaymontana8454
You're full of shit! Barfield is a well known expert on Afghanistan.
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No he cannot, because he's totally full of shit.
^ counter his statements with facts or else you sound hollow.
I'm an American but I had the honor to be in Afghanistan and see the people myself...I enjoyed the country from a historical society
L'Afghanistan est le pays du trafic de drogue, de la corruption, du racisme, du terrorisme, de la ségrégation sexuelle, de l'intimidation, de la pauvreté et des mensonges. L'actuel président de l'Afghanistan est juste un autre belliciste fantasmagorique comme ses frères biologiques Talibans afghans(pashtons). C'est très triste de voir que notre mère terre "Ariana", le centre d'une grande civilisation, le berceau de la langue perse, de la première religion monotiste zoroastrienne, des scientifiques, des astronomes, des historiens, des philosophes, etc tombe entre les mains d’Afghans (pashtons) qui ne connaissent rien à part les attentats-suicides, le trafic de l’opium et le fanatisme. En effet au cours des trois cents dernières années, les Afghans(Pashtons) ont régné sur le Grand Khorasan "sunrise land" (ancien nom D'Afghanistan)avec l'aide des Anglais. Et nous n'avons assisté qu'à une expansion et à un développement énorme des cimetières.
L'identité "Afghane" est une fausse identité que nous a été donnée par le Royaume-Uni, "East Indian Company". Notre véritable identité est le persan, notre langue est le persan et notre pays est le Grand Khorasan "Le pays où le soleil lève". Nous serons libérés de cette prison sanglante pour avoir un pays moderne, démocratique et paisible...
اشغال خطرناک و تباه کننده!
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(از صفحات «تولد دوباره هویت و اقتدار تاجیکان») 🔸 جریان اشغال سرزمین های تاجیکان توسط افغان های کوههای سلیمان که دارای زندگی قبیلوی بودند، با آهستگی و در جریان چند سده به صورت تدریجی و خزنده صورت گرفته، تاجیک ها را به بردگی کشانیده و به قرون وسطی سوق دادند؛
اما اشغال روس ها و انگلیس ها که زندگی پیشرفته تری داشتند، نسبتا سریع و آشکار صورت گرفته و با آوردن علم و تکنالوٰژي تا اندازه ای باعث رشد مردم آنجا ها هم گردیده بود... 🔸 واقعیت تلخ این است که افغان ها نه باشندگان یا مهاجران، بلکه اشغال گران اصلی سرزمین های خراسان - به خصوص تاجیکان اند.
تهاجم عرب ها، ترک ها و مغل ها باعث گسترش زبان و فرهنگ پارسی از استانبول تا کلکته می شود.تجاوز انگلیس و روس باعث ورود دانش و تکنولوژی (راه آهن) به این سرزمین ها می گردد.
Excellent lecture Dr Barfield has great understanding of Afghan culture it certainly gave me a better understanding.
great talk, but Alexander the Great was 4th century BC, not a thousand BC;Just finished watching and enjoying Thomas Barfield's talk. It opened my eyes to a new Afghanistan I didn't know before. I wish every teacher in the world were like him. Many Thanks!!!
I imagine he probably meant a thousand years before Mohammed and the arrival of Islam in that region shortly after...
Anthropology is Amazing. context is important.
This is an amazing lecture! Thank you!
very informative. thank you for posting.
thank you for publishing this lecture
There isn’t much information about afghan Pashtuns. it’s nice to listen to this lecture very informative, hoping there’s more to come.
The only info u need on pashtuns and afghanistan is that
1) pashhtund are the actual or ethnic Afghans.
2) the founded the country under the tribes . AFGHANistan
3) pashtuns r tribal people and ho ourbale people
I wonder what is his understanding of the situation now? Very good talk. I expected to listen for ten minutes and stayed the almost hour.... LOL!
Great lecture. I never realized how much we looked at Afghanistan through European cultural values. I always tended to view Afghan ethnicity is a fashion similar to Yugo ethnicity.
The State Department should have been required to see this video back when it was created and maybe the outcome of the Afghanistan War may have had a better outcome.
Instead the State Department employees were probably required to watch multiple films on why CRT is super and how to be more alphabet sensitive.
Best description of who we are without any biases and preconceived notions
Who else got recommended this video in September 2021?
SUPERB LECTURE. Bravo!!!
Very informative. I learnt a lot from your vast knowledge. Keep on sharing and disseminating your valuable views and comments.
Learned*
@@sylvia106 In UK/International spelling its learnt, in US spelling it's learned. So he was still correct.
@@sylvia106 Thanks for correction of grammatical mistake.
Too few views for such a great video.
Fascinating! Really enjoyed the lecture. Learned a lot.
We need a 2021 version of this lecture.
This is excellent!
Excellent lecture
I like ur speech we believe we are the best muslime may alllah give us more power to keep our islam in our heart
Y’all speak Arabic?
I would love to see a follow-up to this in light of recent events
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@@satoshinakamoto7253 they also kill hazaras but you think thats ok?
When I was deployed near gardez, the terp explained to us that the truck drivers were speaking in Persian in order to belittle the laborers. The laborers we're not literate and couldn't understand Persian. The lack of motivation for education was bizarre. Many of the laborers had been in areas with free education but had never bothered learning to read.