Hilarious, he questioned IF Osama was behind 9/11 when every intelligence agency knew it was him 10 minutes after the attack. Poor Noam, never wants the bad guys to suffer.
@@BlueHen123 What kind of investigation and evidence gathering goes into "everybody knowing" someone did something ten minutes after the event happened? Why didn't they stop it if they were following things so closely? Sounds more like we all agreed to point to him as the scapegoat.
@@BlueHen123 Intelligence agency🤔, like Sadam,s wmd right, this is not about whether he was guilty or not its about the right to inavade a hole country just to prove that 😉
That robber hiding in a mansion analogy is so hilarious and very reflective about how the Americans just assume they own the world and their role as the world police.
True, we're Murica the best country that god ever created.. Just the assumption in itself is so ridiculous. After ww 2 the US really hasn't done a single military mission that made the affected country a better place. It's time to get rid of Nato and other military alliances alike and to enhance the United Nations instead. The US as well as any other country will have to fully follow their rule, no exemptions.
At least 100.000 civilians, at least! amongst them many many women and children killed by US/NATO drones. This western military adventure has never been about building schools for girls etc. etc.
If you're accustomed to seeing the now-quite-elderly Chomsky, often cranky and with half the speaking voice he once had---you're in danger of forgetting that he[along with Howard Zinn, who might be mentioned here] has been one of our great activists, and assets, for decades. He has been a force for good since before many in the discussion were even born. Much love to you, sir.
American hero.. Everything he says the attitude can be found in Paine and Jeffersons writings.. In my view hes a real patriot trying to clear up the conscience of his country
@@chetonabaaz7298 That is not a grammatically correct sentence. Go and improve your English first and then come back, and we'll discuss the intellectual gap between you and Chomsky in a language we can both, hopefully, understand.
@@chetonabaaz7298 Yeah I know. "I feel the happiest when I can light my American cigarettes with Soviet matches" -- Mohammed Daoud Khan, Prime Minister of Afghanistan (1953 to 1963)
Well it is not lack of reason. What USA does is perfectly reasonable and beneficial if you are Halliburton, Boeing or Lockheed Martin. Then it makes perfect sense. To everybody else it makes zero sense.
Its easy to sit back and criticize - how does an American intervene in American foreign policies, WHEN IN FACT it is companies like Halliburton, Boeing or Lockheed Martin THAT actually CREATE and set foreign policies
Chomsky compares the media coverage of the two genocides and makes the case that one (Cambodia) was played up because it suited the interests of U.S. elites and the other (East Timor) was played down because it did not. In other words, there was "benign terror" which suited U.S. foreign policy interests and was ignored, and there was "constructive terror" which it suited U.S. interests to pay close attention to. Now, all this shows a lack of sensitivity to Cambodian victims, but Chomsky's main interest in clearly in exploring his "propaganda model."
@@jb-vb8un Only if you put those words in his mouth. I'm sure he didn't say that the Cambodian genocide was "played up", but that it received focus where East Timor did not.
A classic moment where the smartest person in the room is obligated to answer bad-faith or ill-informed questions from the guy who wants to be perceived as the smartest person in the room.
And notice how eagerly fawning/applauding the squids' cohort rightwingers were -- based simply on the perception that his questions SOUNDED like well-reasoned logic. That encapsulates Lil' Ben Shapiro's dim audience entirely...just impressed enough by his slick fraudulence -- to not just buy into it, but to childishly claim some imaginary victory was thereby achieved.
“President George Bush rejected as ‘non-negotiable’ an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.” (14 Oct 2001)
@@kierangallagher315 Every american news outlet reported on this at the time. If you look up the quote it's exceptionally easy to verify. Bush had every opportunity to work with the Afghan government to avoid war, and chose to avoid it because it furthered US military interests to do so.
@@kierangallagher315 Fun fact, Taliban actually proposed to send Osama to the UN court for trial even before US invaded. But the US didn't want to talk because they don't "negotiate with terrorists". And after 20 years they hand over the country to the same terrorists with whom they didn't want to negotiate even at the cost of a war and death of thousands of people.
@@kierangallagher315 How about highlight the text and right mouse button and click "search google for ..."? Well as you are obviously a computer illiterate person, thinking that thing under your desk or in your hand is just a fancy deck of cards, either that or you are a dishonest shill, here some links that come up with it: www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5 www.nytimes.com/2001/10/15/world/nation-challenged-president-president-rejects-offer-taliban-for-negotiations.html www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/bushaddress_092001.html webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:piFB4VomUOcJ:www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.attacks15oct15-story.html+&cd=4&hl=en& edition.cnn.com/2001/US/10/14/ret.retaliation.facts/index.html www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/gna/Quellensammlung/13/13_freedomandfearatwar_2001.htm georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/documents/Selected_Speeches_George_W_Bush.pdf p.73 ADDRESS TO THE JOINT SESSION OF THE 107TH CONGRESS UNITED STATES CAPITOL WASHINGTON, D.C. SEPTEMBER 20, 2001
@@scoutmahdi6107 The Taliban refused an earlier UN order to extradite bin Laden for the 98 embassy bombings. It was later revealed that the Taliban had in fact made several counter offers to turn bin Laden over to a kind of multinational Muslim tribunal, which the US in turn rejected.
I was listening to the young guy asking the questions and laying out the scenarios/analogies ..and I was thinking that I could never remember all his questions if I were the one who had to answer. But then, I don’t have a Chomsky brain.
I think Chomsky was helped by the fact that he's heard these same arguments before, some maybe even related to other topics. It reminds me of Bill Cosby's (sorry) old routine about playing handball against an old guy. Cosby would hit a shot and the old guy would just "walk to a spot" and smash the ball in return. That's what Chomsky's doing here, just walking to a spot.
It's called a gish-gallop, and It's probably the most annoying tactic to argue against, because usually you can't possibly respond to every single stupid thing they said
LOL...true.....that ''2 minute monologue'' felt like a 1/2 hour diatribe being delivered by a soon-to-be Ex. Dude was trying that shotgun approach of ''throw everything at him and see what sticks"....Chomsky still prevailed though...I salute his cognitive skills to sort through all that excess verbiage.
In short : America, you need to mind your own damn business. Go fix the roads and highways, go provide free education and take care of your veteran's first..
If they had done that in 1942, millins more of us would be speaking German. Rather than minding their own business, I'd rather America just be a little more selective in military use.
@@OrthodoxAtheist Just... a little.... Like don't invade every 2nd country they come across ... It's true what you say about ww2, but germany was seriously getting out of hand and being the agressor. America doesn't even need an excuse anymore nowadays.
How about we stop creating veterans first. The Lions share of everyone's collective tax dollars already go to the active and veterans. The country is killing itself feeding our military adventurism.
Been watching sir chomsky for the past 20 years and watching this today after the US military has been running out of afghanistan his insight into things has just been astonishing.
It's the bravest act to tell your own people that you are wrong. The more difficult it is when you are the minority voice. Tried doing it in a small way, but it is really difficult. Chomsky you not only provide me a moral strength but also the bravery. ❤️
The fact that the Taliban was willing to have conversations about turning over bin laden alive which Bush and Obama refused is a critical point and overlooked in most discussions. It’s good to be reminded of it.
if you want to see more on that, theres a good 2004 interview that jeffrey and cockburn from counterpunch did with Kabir Mohabbat, search for "how bush was offered bin laden and blew it" in CP
@@nancysanders2398 For Pakistan: Help from China, Europe, N Korea--and some native talent, some native money. For India: native talent and money, with a very minor assist from Canada.
His analogy really tells a lot of how American's view their role in the world. They are the government that ultimately can 'cut the power' going to the house they don't like. All other countries are simply houses in the neighbourhood administered by the US.
taliban has every reason to invade US and free them from economic inequality as we all know afganistan has one of the lowest econmonic inequality except they will not as they dont have white man's burden
@@sunset2.00 " white man's burden" and what would that be excactly?? I don't think Taliban has an actual reason to invade any other country, as mush as USA has to invade others (especially done when it is in the name of 'democratic freedom'. Let them decide, or else it's just rude).
Taliban was welcome back again, in most places outside Kabul. But the western media only focuses on Kabul, because that’s where the privileged Afghans live and there was no drone killings or night raids happening.
@@tribalque2232 You‘re like the dude in the video. You don’t know anything. Afghanistan’s mountainous regions are full of precious resources. By the way: Which woman seriously wants to live under the regime of the Taliban. Women basically don‘t have any rights there but to stay at home. Most of them even get raped by the Taliban. You must be ill to think that people would welcome that bullshit. Western media messed with your head
@@dershittalkpodcast What the people of afghanistan fear most is war. That includes women who risk seeing themselves or their children blown up. The Taliban have already shown that while they are not good, they are rational and they wouldnt have survived for 20 years without decent support from the civilian population.
@@kierangallagher315 never said that nor does the comment suggest that. I merely made a statement regarding how ignorant the student was by how his view of the topic was. Kinda like yours but at least he had some what of a valid point. Yours is just based on assumptions coming from such a fragile ego.
@@alexanderjackson9302 Chomsky's reply begs so many questions that would probably occur to a half-intelligent person. He says the Taliban could solve a lot of problems by disappearing! And will they? What a delusional, self-congratulatory way of looking at the world. Refering to the Russian invasion, Chomsky says why did a Russian not criticize what the Afgans are doing to each other? Why not criticise stonings, beheadings, child-marriage etc? He says the relevance of our view of the Taliban is zero. Perhaps redundant if we can remove them from power?
The calm voice of informed wisdom, this needs to played repeatedly over the next few months. We need to hear this very loudly and clearly. Thank goodness for Chomsky’s relentless commitment to truth and political responsibility.
I remember studying the history of Afghanistan for about 20 minutes. The invasion had overwhelming support and we tipped one side of a civil war with air strikes an special forces. I was the only American I knew who was more afraid of the American response than further terrorist attacks. This kind of stupidity went down so easily it was just like a speedbump on the way to attack Iraq. We had the power to target an individual inside a country and we failed to find him. 20 years of military adventure as a political replacement for the cold war.
For every Einstein or Hawking who discovered how things in this realm worked and what to do with such knowledge, there are people like Chomsky who discovered the goings on in this realm and why these things matter.
It is amazing how one person’s voice of reason can shape the public discource of not just one country but entire world. It is a pity we don‘t have another person like Chomsky.
@@billweir1745 Your communist cult leader in the video above was saying America ought to refrain from striking at Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Doing such a strike is not police work, it's military defense work. The idiocy of Bush/Obama in following that strike with the occupation is a *different* issue.
@@kreek22 Retaliation and defense are not the same thing. And didn't they offer up Osama Bin Laden on multiple occasions? How about the shitshow of Iraq? Obviously we never learned our lesson from Vietnam, and had our asses handed to us yet again by a tiny faction of an army compared to our completely over bloated money pit of an army.
They are worse off due to the economic sanctions placed by the west including the seizing of the Afghan central bank reserves. It is this blindness which plagues your analysis.
@@c.s.7097 Good point. For example you can use calories to judge poverty. I am 50's and in the 70's look at pictures and you can see how skinny average people are.and now we are fat. One can say we must be better off as the average high school graduate is 20 pounds heavier. That must mean they have ate more food.
The only major newspaper Chomsky ever trusted was The Financial Times. He always said that while the NY Times is manufacturing consent, the people who actually control the money have to have this newspaper in order to communicate. They can't lie to each other, in other words.
There's another problem with the analogy of the house and the government. You have assumed that the USA is the government and the house is Afghanistan. So, the USA/government is the provider/guarantor of safety of the neighbourhood in which the house/Afghanistan is present. And that the USA/government is sending it's police/military into that house to take care of the 'problem'; a problem which the USA had itself created. In this manner, you have already assumed the supremacy of the USA/government and that the residents of that house need to comply by the government's rules, policies and demands. The people asking these kinds of questions and making these analogies are high on their 'western superiority complex'; that we are the 'good' people, the 'police', the 'Superman' etc. The real world is nothing like this rather quite the opposite as it's a reality that wherever there is conflict in the world now, there is almost always a direct or indirect US involvement.
Do you honestly believe that? C'mon man. Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. He was a CIA asset (Tim Osman) that outlived his usefulness so they made him into the ultimate Boogie Man. He died of natural causes well before they claimed to have killed him. Did you ever notice the supposed Bin Laden videos kept showing different looking Bin Ladens who seemed to age in reverse?! lol. Or how about this one... they conveniently dumped his supposed "body" into the ocean after they supposedly killed him in Pakistan before any verification could be done. Yeah, that makes total sense! You gotta be as naive as the kid asking questions in this video to believe the whoppers we were asked to believe about Bin Laden. First lesson: Never believe anything coming from the MSM.
Noam took down every point that was hurled at him, that was truly amazing. And for me was this: Noam doesn't hate America that young man does, sadly, that rhetoric echoes to this day.
One interesting thing I found is that in the 20 year occupation Afganistan was like a limbo, half dead, half alive, confused and aimless, In the video he talked about the starvation crisis and now after 20 years that NATO went out they are right back to start with exact same problems,
This first minute is spoiled by a person who doesn't know the difference between a question and am oration. Furthermore it doesn't seem like he is waiting for an answer but for a conformation of his bias.
There is this arrogance of Americans to compare other countries with America. People of another country don't do that. They compare yesterday with today. If today is bad but better than yesterday, then today is better. Tomorrow they hope will be better still. But it is ridiculous to say, if you adopt capitalism, you will be like America. Or the reverse of that is you are not as wealthy as us because you don't adopt the American way.
I applaud the guy's willingness to engage Chomsky, as we should naturally welcome the free exchange of ideas (whatever they may be), but because he ended his question sarcastically and condescendingly with "spitballs," I'm gratified that Chomsky took him down a peg, humbled him.
now after two decades of war usa lost over 3000 of their solders, 20+k injured solders and over 2.2triliion $ lost and taliban now controls all afganistan
Chomsky rightly said regarding handing over of Osama to US and Talibans offered 3 options: - try him inside Afghanistan - try him in a few Muslim countries (dont remember the names) - try in international court of justice But US simply rejected this offer and went for a full fledge war. And after 20 yrs, everyone saw precious lives lost, huge money wasted and last but not the least credibility loss for US and NATO.
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Anybody who asks a 300-word question is not interested in the answer.
They are just putting their point across.
The truth is that you are not interested in listening his point 😂😂
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Because his point was stereotypical
Chomsky"s rebuttal aged like a fine wine , thank you for posting.
Hilarious, he questioned IF Osama was behind 9/11 when every intelligence agency knew it was him 10 minutes after the attack. Poor Noam, never wants the bad guys to suffer.
@@BlueHen123 What kind of investigation and evidence gathering goes into "everybody knowing" someone did something ten minutes after the event happened? Why didn't they stop it if they were following things so closely? Sounds more like we all agreed to point to him as the scapegoat.
@@BlueHen123 Intelligence agency🤔, like Sadam,s wmd right, this is not about whether he was guilty or not its about the right to inavade a hole country just to prove that 😉
@@BlueHen123 Like totally
It's as if there wasn't an over 40 plus year of USA history in Afghanistan , but you're making total sense. Cheers.
of all the days to revisit this exchange.....now is perhaps the most sobering
I'm here too....inbetween re reading Caravans, by James A Michener.
That robber hiding in a mansion analogy is so hilarious and very reflective about how the Americans just assume they own the world and their role as the world police.
I thought exactly the same.
True, we're Murica the best country that god ever created.. Just the assumption in itself is so ridiculous. After ww 2 the US really hasn't done a single military mission that made the affected country a better place. It's time to get rid of Nato and other military alliances alike and to enhance the United Nations instead. The US as well as any other country will have to fully follow their rule, no exemptions.
Americam exceptionalism is basically another term for incorrigible obnoxiousness.
He wasn't in that mansion anyway, he was in the mansion next door.
@@michaelfiedler1419
It’s really bizarre that NATO didn’t disband after the USSR collapsed, it’s the entire conceit of that military alliance.
The kid was obviously well indoctrinated by the American exceptionalism.
probably a spoiled ivy league "future leader with lots of promise". one doesn't acquire an inflated ego like that by themselves with no help.
The kid was put in his place with history and education. Love the response. ❤️👏
Was that a young Cucker Tarlson?
Was that his Obama trump correspondence dinner moment?
@@drproteus9102 Wrong , that was Potatoe Head Biden ...
@Oyyy Veyyyy He's not though
"6000 people are dead." I wonder if he knows how many Afghan citizens are dead at this point, 20 years later. Or if he even would care?
Has he ever indicated that his position has changed?
At least 100.000 civilians, at least! amongst them many many women and children killed by US/NATO drones.
This western military adventure has never been about building schools for girls etc. etc.
He probably didn't really care that the 6,000 people died.
@@mynameisthis1580 Where do you two get the idea that he doesn't care?
depending on the source, 50, 70 or 100k afghan civilians dead. 2021
If you're accustomed to seeing the now-quite-elderly Chomsky, often cranky and with half the speaking voice he once had---you're in danger of forgetting that he[along with Howard Zinn, who might be mentioned here] has been one of our great activists, and assets, for decades. He has been a force for good since before many in the discussion were even born. Much love to you, sir.
He's not really cranky though, maybe a little more animated or passionate sometimes. He never really shows impatience or anger
@bubblebeam "Again" hahaha
@bubblebeam It's called common sense you df,
@The Right Australian hey, look! Mel Gibson weighs in with a bit of antisemitism.
You guys know about the Brit think tank which deals with mass mind control - Tavistock Institute for Human Relations? Ole Chomsky is a member ;)
We all knew Chomsky was going to skewer him before he even finished his "question"
"If its wrong when they do it, then it's wrong when we do it" Noam Chomsky.
How obvious and yet how deep and no group is really willing to submit to it
Noam is always the voice of informed reason
American hero.. Everything he says the attitude can be found in Paine and Jeffersons writings.. In my view hes a real patriot trying to clear up the conscience of his country
Very well,stated.عبد القادر Beauty & H
Nah he's full of shit
@@sinatra222 How profound.
Noam Chomsky is such a wise, calm, accurate, insightful and educated man... He's one in a million.
Master of deceiver
His son is pretty cool too
@@chetonabaaz7298 That is not a grammatically correct sentence. Go and improve your English first and then come back, and we'll discuss the intellectual gap between you and Chomsky in a language we can both, hopefully, understand.
@@Mortum_Rex great player.plays from both side like spending huge money for both napoleon and british by khazar banker.
@@chetonabaaz7298 Yeah I know. "I feel the happiest when I can light my American cigarettes with Soviet matches" -- Mohammed Daoud Khan, Prime Minister of Afghanistan (1953 to 1963)
Noam Chomsky, you have always been the voice of reason and wisdom, something totally missing in American domestic and foreign policies.
Well it is not lack of reason. What USA does is perfectly reasonable and beneficial if you are Halliburton, Boeing or Lockheed Martin. Then it makes perfect sense. To everybody else it makes zero sense.
Its easy to sit back and criticize - how does an American intervene in American foreign policies, WHEN IN FACT it is companies like Halliburton, Boeing or Lockheed Martin THAT actually CREATE and set foreign policies
Chomsky compares the media coverage of the two genocides and makes the case that one (Cambodia) was played up because it suited the interests of U.S. elites and the other (East Timor) was played down because it did not. In other words, there was "benign terror" which suited U.S. foreign policy interests and was ignored, and there was "constructive terror" which it suited U.S. interests to pay close attention to. Now, all this shows a lack of sensitivity to Cambodian victims, but Chomsky's main interest in clearly in exploring his "propaganda model."
@@jb-vb8un Only if you put those words in his mouth. I'm sure he didn't say that the Cambodian genocide was "played up", but that it received focus where East Timor did not.
@@pappapaps source, HISTORY NEWS NETWORK
A classic moment where the smartest person in the room is obligated to answer bad-faith or ill-informed questions from the guy who wants to be perceived as the smartest person in the room.
And notice how eagerly fawning/applauding the squids' cohort rightwingers were -- based simply on the perception that his questions SOUNDED like well-reasoned logic. That encapsulates Lil' Ben Shapiro's dim audience entirely...just impressed enough by his slick fraudulence -- to not just buy into it, but to childishly claim some imaginary victory was thereby achieved.
Chomsky never shows mercy against these people.
Nor should he...
At least he doesn't kill and maim anybody
Hitchens destroyed Chomsky.
@@philmitchell91 did they ever debate? that would be amazing to see. or are you referring to something else?
How so? I've read the exchange, and by my reckoning Hitchens did no such thing.
“President George Bush rejected as ‘non-negotiable’ an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.” (14 Oct 2001)
Name your source! Where does that quotation come from?
@@kierangallagher315 Every american news outlet reported on this at the time. If you look up the quote it's exceptionally easy to verify. Bush had every opportunity to work with the Afghan government to avoid war, and chose to avoid it because it furthered US military interests to do so.
@@kierangallagher315 Fun fact, Taliban actually proposed to send Osama to the UN court for trial even before US invaded. But the US didn't want to talk because they don't "negotiate with terrorists". And after 20 years they hand over the country to the same terrorists with whom they didn't want to negotiate even at the cost of a war and death of thousands of people.
@@kierangallagher315 How about highlight the text and right mouse button and click "search google for ..."?
Well as you are obviously a computer illiterate person, thinking that thing under your desk or in your hand is just a fancy deck of cards, either that or you are a dishonest shill, here some links that come up with it:
www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
www.nytimes.com/2001/10/15/world/nation-challenged-president-president-rejects-offer-taliban-for-negotiations.html
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/bushaddress_092001.html
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:piFB4VomUOcJ:www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.attacks15oct15-story.html+&cd=4&hl=en&
edition.cnn.com/2001/US/10/14/ret.retaliation.facts/index.html
www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/gna/Quellensammlung/13/13_freedomandfearatwar_2001.htm
georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/documents/Selected_Speeches_George_W_Bush.pdf
p.73
ADDRESS TO THE JOINT SESSION OF THE 107TH CONGRESS UNITED STATES CAPITOL WASHINGTON, D.C. SEPTEMBER 20, 2001
@@scoutmahdi6107 The Taliban refused an earlier UN order to extradite bin Laden for the 98 embassy bombings. It was later revealed that the Taliban had in fact made several counter offers to turn bin Laden over to a kind of multinational Muslim tribunal, which the US in turn rejected.
The youngster was feeling himself shadow boxing until he got punch in the mouth by the old man ,Noam Chomsky.Stay in school
It's a tall order even for established, experienced to best Noam..he never really had a chance :)
I was listening to the young guy asking the questions and laying out the scenarios/analogies ..and I was thinking that I could never remember all his questions if I were the one who had to answer. But then, I don’t have a Chomsky brain.
I think Chomsky was helped by the fact that he's heard these same arguments before, some maybe even related to other topics. It reminds me of Bill Cosby's (sorry) old routine about playing handball against an old guy. Cosby would hit a shot and the old guy would just "walk to a spot" and smash the ball in return. That's what Chomsky's doing here, just walking to a spot.
It's easy to know when you see the point from 1,000 miles away. For all his blustering the inquisitior was as predictable as the tides.
Righttt omg I lost track after the robber inside the mansion thing
I respect the fact that he corrected the guy asking the question without belittling him.
This is a classic. Only ever heard the audio before.
"Let's say hypothetically..."
Goes on a 2 minute monologue asking a billion questions just to find 1 thing to "own" him on.
It's called a gish-gallop, and It's probably the most annoying tactic to argue against, because usually you can't possibly respond to every single stupid thing they said
@@specialknees6798 They just keep coming at you with their stupidity until you stop talking and they would claim victory, lol
And doesn't even do that! 🤣
@@specialknees6798 Which makes it even better that Chomsky has such great recall that he answered all of his questions in order.
LOL...true.....that ''2 minute monologue'' felt like a 1/2 hour diatribe being delivered by a soon-to-be Ex. Dude was trying that shotgun approach of ''throw everything at him and see what sticks"....Chomsky still prevailed though...I salute his cognitive skills to sort through all that excess verbiage.
Dear Professor Chomsky, You have always been 100 years ahead of American general public.
Yeah. It's kinda his job haha
In short : America, you need to mind your own damn business. Go fix the roads and highways, go provide free education and take care of your veteran's first..
Veterans First!
If they had done that in 1942, millins more of us would be speaking German. Rather than minding their own business, I'd rather America just be a little more selective in military use.
@@OrthodoxAtheist Just... a little.... Like don't invade every 2nd country they come across ...
It's true what you say about ww2, but germany was seriously getting out of hand and being the agressor.
America doesn't even need an excuse anymore nowadays.
How about we stop creating veterans first. The Lions share of everyone's collective tax dollars already go to the active and veterans. The country is killing itself feeding our military adventurism.
Very well said...
This question goes for so long I couldn't remember what he was asking in the first place.
This is a debate strategy, very common among politicians.
Been watching sir chomsky for the past 20 years and watching this today after the US military has been running out of afghanistan his insight into things has just been astonishing.
its ending where it started no less... when the us and russia destroyed kabul
It's the bravest act to tell your own people that you are wrong. The more difficult it is when you are the minority voice. Tried doing it in a small way, but it is really difficult. Chomsky you not only provide me a moral strength but also the bravery. ❤️
Chomsky: “Don’t mess with me, boy. Run along.”
the gall on that kid to think he was going to school a titan like Chomsky
The fact that the Taliban was willing to have conversations about turning over bin laden alive which Bush and Obama refused is a critical point and overlooked in most discussions. It’s good to be reminded of it.
Yep, "wanted dead not alive," is how the poster would read. For obvious reasons. Or worse, not really wanted at all.
if you want to see more on that, theres a good 2004 interview that jeffrey and cockburn from counterpunch did with Kabir Mohabbat, search for "how bush was offered bin laden and blew it" in CP
@@blahzorl great, thank you. Only started reading counterpunch recently. But will surely check out your recommendation 🥂
You are correct it should be mentioned more but, people often forget the u.s didn't just want bin laden they wanted al qaeda as well.
An intellectual giant
He only looks that way to pygmies.
Seriously though. A great mind for great clarity
You left off jackass
@@llaurita2 Did he hurt your feelings?
@@billweir1745 no, but clearly I hurt yours.
Here after taliban took over afghanistan
Here after Pakistan took over Afghanistan.
Yes,how Is it,that Pakistan has nuclear capability,as well as India,how is that" possible?"
Because the US helped Pakistan to get it
@@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Wrong.
@@nancysanders2398 For Pakistan: Help from China, Europe, N Korea--and some native talent, some native money.
For India: native talent and money, with a very minor assist from Canada.
"Let's be concerned with what we do and what we can do."
I am impressed by he remembered all the questions in the order presented. I am also impressed by his answers.
If this were today, this dude would set up a podcast to seem relevant and to lecture ignorance to the masses.
I'm pretty sure he's still working fulltime at the University of Arizona. He's a a laureate professor in the Department of Linguistics.
@@markbryant4641 I’m talking about the dude in the suit, not prof Chomsky. I’m aware of Chomsky’s work thanks ✌🏽
@@Rubylove48 Oh, I see. That guy seemed very nervous. Perhaps a little peepee trickling down his trouser leg.
Paging Ben Shapiro...
His analogy really tells a lot of how American's view their role in the world. They are the government that ultimately can 'cut the power' going to the house they don't like. All other countries are simply houses in the neighbourhood administered by the US.
Wow. That "question" was a 2-minute diatribe.
And the answer was a 6-minute Hitch-slap.
He liked the sound of his own voice apparently. Haircut doesn't help the braindead.
Oh my God.
I am speechless.
Thank you Sir
I am more than honoured.
This student sounds like sam harris "it would all be so easy if our enemies werent such naughty boys" 😂😂
lol fuck sam harris
Ok I hear you, but......... let’s do a thought experiment...
Yeah fuck sam harris
taliban has every reason to invade US and free them from economic inequality as we all know afganistan has one of the lowest econmonic inequality except they will not as they dont have white man's burden
@@sunset2.00 " white man's burden" and what would that be excactly?? I don't think Taliban has an actual reason to invade any other country, as mush as USA has to invade others (especially done when it is in the name of 'democratic freedom'. Let them decide, or else it's just rude).
Taliban was welcome back again, in most places outside Kabul. But the western media only focuses on Kabul, because that’s where the privileged Afghans live and there was no drone killings or night raids happening.
Most of the people fleeing are fleeing because it is the 7th poorest country in the world and they want to go to America, not because of Taliban.
idk about that. most ppl are forced to because they have no choice.
@@CP-ir3ft "forced"?
@@tribalque2232 You‘re like the dude in the video. You don’t know anything. Afghanistan’s mountainous regions are full of precious resources.
By the way: Which woman seriously wants to live under the regime of the Taliban. Women basically don‘t have any rights there but to stay at home. Most of them even get raped by the Taliban. You must be ill to think that people would welcome that bullshit. Western media messed with your head
@@dershittalkpodcast What the people of afghanistan fear most is war. That includes women who risk seeing themselves or their children blown up.
The Taliban have already shown that while they are not good, they are rational and they wouldnt have survived for 20 years without decent support from the civilian population.
"Not to have read Chomsky is to court genuine ignorance" Nation Magazine.
Chomsky humiliating the emotional pseudos.
I think that student cried all the way home and called his mother..
So you idolise Chomsky? How sad.
@@kierangallagher315 never said that nor does the comment suggest that. I merely made a statement regarding how ignorant the student was by how his view of the topic was. Kinda like yours but at least he had some what of a valid point. Yours is just based on assumptions coming from such a fragile ego.
@@alexanderjackson9302 Chomsky's reply begs so many questions that would probably occur to a half-intelligent person.
He says the Taliban could solve a lot of problems by disappearing! And will they? What a delusional, self-congratulatory way of looking at the world.
Refering to the Russian invasion, Chomsky says why did a Russian not criticize what the Afgans are doing to each other? Why not criticise stonings, beheadings, child-marriage etc?
He says the relevance of our view of the Taliban is zero. Perhaps redundant if we can remove them from power?
@@kierangallagher315 Who's your idol. Ayn Rand?
-little tribes halfway across the world fighting each other with rocks and sticks
"alexa, increase military defense spending by 300 trillion dollars"
It's an easy viewpoint to say today, but in 2001, they attacked us here.
@@SD_702 no they didn't u fool
The guy gives me the impression of a cocky upstart student who thinks he can outsmart Chomsky...
Anyway, his reply is enlightening, as usual.
Ben Shapiro vibes 🙄
This reminds of university in Texas. Students are self absorbed, bloodthirsty, killer bots ready to activate on not so secret key words.
The guy asking the questions sounds like a slower speaking Ben Shapiro. But Chomsky is just too honest and sharp. Love the man!
He appeared to have Shapiro's disingenuousness too. Chomsky mauled him.
Leave bin Laden be! He has human shields, and we can't risk them.
Ah, the moral radiance of this saint.
Chomsky : " you wanna play chess ? I know a few moves"
Just a tip if you ever listen to Ben shapiro on RUclips... Settings, Playback Speed, 0.75.
If this happened today, the right-wing student would continue talking over Noam Chomsky's response and hector him with conspiracy theories.
I am so happy for him, he is one of the very fortunate people who can see his children grow old with him.
The calm voice of informed wisdom, this needs to played repeatedly over the next few months. We need to hear this very loudly and clearly. Thank goodness for Chomsky’s relentless commitment to truth and political responsibility.
The kid memorized the question really well!
This aged very very well.
"we know exactly were he is"
Okay, but do you have jurisdiction over there ?
After he killed 6,000 Americans on 9/11? I think the answer is yes.
Those people who don’t ask questions but state their ideas on and on
Get that smug Yuppie, Professor Chomsky!
Wonder where the questioner is today? Probably working for the Heritage Foundation or something
That's Ben Shapiro and Pete Buttigieg's time-traveling son
He is a fine sample of modern American politician. Arrogant, opinionated, treating other nations as an object's.
I remember studying the history of Afghanistan for about 20 minutes. The invasion had overwhelming support and we tipped one side of a civil war with air strikes an special forces. I was the only American I knew who was more afraid of the American response than further terrorist attacks. This kind of stupidity went down so easily it was just like a speedbump on the way to attack Iraq. We had the power to target an individual inside a country and we failed to find him. 20 years of military adventure as a political replacement for the cold war.
You weren't alone I was just 14 and nobody cared what I thought, even less than they care now lol.
20 years not of political adventurism, 20 years of profit for military industrial complex.
Never Mind the dead bodies and trail of destruction.
I cannot possibly imagine the hubris this man must possess to put these questions to Noam Chomsky with such an attitude.
Interview aside...VHS Recorder is still tracking today 🤓😂
For every Einstein or Hawking who discovered how things in this realm worked and what to do with such knowledge, there are people like Chomsky who discovered the goings on in this realm and why these things matter.
It is amazing how one person’s voice of reason can shape the public discource of not just one country but entire world. It is a pity we don‘t have another person like Chomsky.
“How would the American government react in this way” well based on Waco...
POOR GUY. HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH JACKET AND TIE WITH A DAYS REHEARSED QUESTION JUST TO BE HANDED HIS BEHIND IN A PLATE POINT BY POINT
The kid posing the question legit looked and sounded like a psychopath... holy
Voice of reason.
Yes, very reasonable to let terrorists run free.
Well, they're running free today in Afghanistan once again.
@@kreek22 How many times does it have to be said? We are not the world's police. Piss off with that shit.
@@billweir1745 Your communist cult leader in the video above was saying America ought to refrain from striking at Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Doing such a strike is not police work, it's military defense work. The idiocy of Bush/Obama in following that strike with the occupation is a *different* issue.
@@kreek22 Retaliation and defense are not the same thing. And didn't they offer up Osama Bin Laden on multiple occasions? How about the shitshow of Iraq? Obviously we never learned our lesson from Vietnam, and had our asses handed to us yet again by a tiny faction of an army compared to our completely over bloated money pit of an army.
Sir, Noam Chomsky is such a gentleman - love from #Afghanistan
Turned out they got wrong the house, he was in the next-door neighbors' house. (he was there for nearly 11 years)
Then the house got turned into a drug house, supplying 90%of the world's heroine.
“Poor Afghans will suffer”…they’re 100% worse off 20 years later…
Cause nobody in their right mind thought there would be an evil empire that would impose sanctions on a war torn nation.
They are worse off due to the economic sanctions placed by the west including the seizing of the Afghan central bank reserves. It is this blindness which plagues your analysis.
One of the best professors
Is this young guy the speaker, the judge and prosecutor? What a piece of art 🤔
That young guy is no longer young guy, hopefully hes become a wiser mid aged guy today.
I love that quote "What the NY Times tells us" If that is anything close to reality.
Literally everyone has an agenda.
Got to get your reports of starvation from somewhere
@@c.s.7097 Good point. For example you can use calories to judge poverty. I am 50's and in the 70's look at pictures and you can see how skinny average people are.and now we are fat. One can say we must be better off as the average high school graduate is 20 pounds heavier. That must mean they have ate more food.
@@jonhennemann4729 lmao, you are so far off, it's stupid.
The New York Times,is Not a credible source of any news,Not even the most mundane,insipid stories!
The only major newspaper Chomsky ever trusted was The Financial Times. He always said that while the NY Times is manufacturing consent, the people who actually control the money have to have this newspaper in order to communicate. They can't lie to each other, in other words.
There's another problem with the analogy of the house and the government.
You have assumed that the USA is the government and the house is Afghanistan. So, the USA/government is the provider/guarantor of safety of the neighbourhood in which the house/Afghanistan is present. And that the USA/government is sending it's police/military into that house to take care of the 'problem'; a problem which the USA had itself created.
In this manner, you have already assumed the supremacy of the USA/government and that the residents of that house need to comply by the government's rules, policies and demands.
The people asking these kinds of questions and making these analogies are high on their 'western superiority complex'; that we are the 'good' people, the 'police', the 'Superman' etc.
The real world is nothing like this rather quite the opposite as it's a reality that wherever there is conflict in the world now, there is almost always a direct or indirect US involvement.
Wonder if that young speaker progressed at all.
Is he asking a question or stating a treatise?
He was bloviating, no more no less.
You'll notice Chomsky's response was more than twice as long.
Well, you would have noticed if you weren't a Chomsky cheerleader.
@@kreek22 And if you had any intelligence at all you would realise the length of time each spoke had nothing to do with my comment.
@@kreek22 Fun fact. Answers are normally longer than questions. Fun fact 2. People who do not see the depth of Chomsky's words are normally stupid.
Chomsky starts @2:20.
🙏
Boy this hits different today knowing what we know.
I wonder where is the guy asking questions now?
Live long, Master Chomsky.
The irony 🤣 in the end they got him without having to inavade a hole country 😂😂😂
Do you honestly believe that? C'mon man. Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. He was a CIA asset (Tim Osman) that outlived his usefulness so they made him into the ultimate Boogie Man. He died of natural causes well before they claimed to have killed him. Did you ever notice the supposed Bin Laden videos kept showing different looking Bin Ladens who seemed to age in reverse?! lol. Or how about this one... they conveniently dumped his supposed "body" into the ocean after they supposedly killed him in Pakistan before any verification could be done. Yeah, that makes total sense! You gotta be as naive as the kid asking questions in this video to believe the whoppers we were asked to believe about Bin Laden. First lesson: Never believe anything coming from the MSM.
@@hula4483 take your pills
@@AH-vc3hb Only pill i've taken is the red one. Enjoy your comfy blue pill fantasy prison where the MSM engineers your reality for you.
Noam took down every point that was hurled at him, that was truly amazing. And for me was this: Noam doesn't hate America that young man does, sadly, that rhetoric echoes to this day.
"your enemies are not necessarily our enemies" Nelson Mandela 1991
That kid went home crying probably blamed his mom
Beautiful soul...if only it could blaze forever
Good question, even better rebuttal.
One interesting thing I found is that in the 20 year occupation Afganistan was like a limbo, half dead, half alive, confused and aimless,
In the video he talked about the starvation crisis and now after 20 years that NATO went out they are right back to start with exact same problems,
Failure by design me thinks. there needs to be future wars to sell future weapons.
that guy is like a puppy trying to defeat the alfa Male.
This first minute is spoiled by a person who doesn't know the difference between a question and am oration. Furthermore it doesn't seem like he is waiting for an answer but for a conformation of his bias.
So what was the question?
There is this arrogance of Americans to compare other countries with America.
People of another country don't do that. They compare yesterday with today. If today is bad but better than yesterday, then today is better. Tomorrow they hope will be better still. But it is ridiculous to say, if you adopt capitalism, you will be like America. Or the reverse of that is you are not as wealthy as us because you don't adopt the American way.
Nothing will change.
Anyone who takes on Noam Chomsky is absolutely brave. This man is a walking legend, an encyclopaedia.
I applaud the guy's willingness to engage Chomsky, as we should naturally welcome the free exchange of ideas (whatever they may be), but because he ended his question sarcastically and condescendingly with "spitballs," I'm gratified that Chomsky took him down a peg, humbled him.
now after two decades of war usa lost over 3000 of their solders, 20+k injured solders and over 2.2triliion $ lost and taliban now controls all afganistan
Afghanistan was never the US's to control to begin with.
Chomsky rightly said regarding handing over of Osama to US and Talibans offered 3 options:
- try him inside Afghanistan
- try him in a few Muslim countries (dont remember the names)
- try in international court of justice
But US simply rejected this offer and went for a full fledge war. And after 20 yrs, everyone saw precious lives lost, huge money wasted and last but not the least credibility loss for US and NATO.
Perfect answer some how He was aware of ground reality!
Longest question ever
This nerds "question" was longer then the War
Note to self: One day search out the patent of the apple OS kernel.
What reason?
Thumbs up! Noam!
I think the cameraman should have done more tracking.
He could be holding this seminar today.
This applies perfectly with Israel-Palestine