Why These Status Effects RUINED Elden Ring PvP
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2023
- Elden Ring has a lot of status effects that can cause trouble during your playthrough, but there are 4 specific status effects that ABSOLUTELY BREAK ELDEN RING PVP. Today, Ranni the witch explains why this happens, which includes lag and latency,
If you thought Rivers of Blood was bad, wait until you see what Madness, Sleep, Deathblight and Bloodflame can do. Mixed with the netcode, it's an absolute horrorfest.
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Do you think these status effects should be removed from PvP or the game?
No but also yes
The fix is very simple, if Fromsoftware created a talisman that gave immunity against Sleep, Madness, Rot and Poison, (***on PvP***) 90% of the problem would be solved.
@@Nicollas2050dang, this is the best and simplest idea I've ever heard about the topic.
If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it 😂
it should be optional. like on and off the status effects on PvP mode.
One of my favorite parts of this channel is not missing a single opportunity to jab at G9
I don't watch him, what's the joke there?
@AttacMage the joke is that he takes the game seriously because he enjoys it and we can't do that in a post ironic meme culture, waifu has been beating this dead horse for months
@@Bitter-Wounds No er takes ever is post ironic thought
Not that because we dont like him, G9 is a living legend, he will shit on anybody
@AttacMage the joke is that Jeninne is kinda a giga sweat lord (as in takes the game very seriously) so they are using him (and his image of Bruce Lee, as he seems to be a big fan of Bruce Lee) to comedically "legitimize" their statements. At least that's how I receive it
I just wish people treated frost as a debuff instead of Baby's first bleed build
Frostbite is fun to play around and I don't get the appeal of Ice and Fire builds outside of maybe the meme of "George R. R. Martin worked on this game."
Frenzy? I got frenzied once.
They locked me in a gaol.
An ethernal gaol
An ethernal gaol with frenzy rats.
The rats made me frenzied
Frenzy? I got frenzied once.
They locked me in a gaol.
An ethernal gaol
An ethernal gaol with frenzy rats.
The rats made me frenzied
@@notsocrazytank707
Frenzy? I got frenzied once.
They locked me in a gaol.
An ethernal gaol
An ethernal gaol with frenzy rats.
The rats made me frenzied
Frenzy? I got frenzied once.
They locked me in a gaol.
An ethernal gaol.
An ethernal gaol with frenzy rats.
The rats made me frenzied.
Frenzy? I got frenzied once.
They locked me in a gaol.
An ethernal gaol.
An ethernal gaol with frenzy rats.
The rats made me frenzied.
The rats i meet outside of altus had some unique fiery eyed. Kinda reminds me of frenzied flame…
Ill be honest, bleed always was a weird thing conceptually. Like, why does a katana do bleed, but any other sharp sword doesnt? I sure bet you that if I hit you with any sharp sword in real life you would bleed.
Good question lol
On top of that you aren't hitting an open flesh, you're hitting a metal armor. How do you cause a guy in full plate to bleed by slashing him with a knife? I wish FS tried done new in their next game.
Also, why would getting repeatedly hit by a sharp object cause you to... Idk, suddenly explode I guess ? That's not how bleeding out works. I guess there are enough damage over time status and effects with poison, scarlet rot, blackflame, destined death... But still, kind of a weird way to implement it.
What happens is that huhhh... Bleed weapons have a vacuum effect, and when they hit you enough times they suck you off. I mean, your blood. They suck your blood.
It’s dumb but it doesn’t have to make sense, it’s a video game. Bleed has always been an innate quality of most katanas in souls games, but it wasn’t quite as cancerous as a status effect until ER
As an Australian, latency is a way of life.
loaded pulley crossbow with sleep bolts as softswap is present in all of my builds 💀
You know how bosses has their resistances increases with each status proc? Maybe that’ll be a good idea for pvp as well
I don't play pvp but Ranni ai could talk about the economy of beans in Colombia and I'd listen to it + your text is great fun regardless
Death blight isn't that bad, mostly because the main way to build it is Fia's mist (no phantom hits) and it isn't good even with latency issues.
Aye but it was a plague at the start of the game's release.
The only time it is functional is if your opponent is forced between using a bolus and a flask. Which is kinda a rare occurance
@@proxythefool fire deadly sin isnt the same as db
I kinda enjoyed how they tackled bleed in DS2 - it had a cool down from what I remember?
Bleed in ds2 had a lingering status debuff after the initial blood loss proc that reduced the affected players max stamina for a period of time, it was pretty unique but you didn't see it much cause it only did a measly flat 200 damage, and damage is king for 99% of people
Decreasing Stamina was pretty cool. And doing only 200 damage is also super cool. Super cool as in doesn't feel cheap and ass.
@@goncalocarneiro3043 Yeah, if bleed was a flat amount of damage(let's say 400-500) dps then I think that would be more balanced.
@@xXLunatikxXlulyou do realize you start the game with less than 400 hp for some classes. You need to have the damage be percent based in order to avoid gimping.
I hate latency 😥 especially in dueling 🤺
Time to pull out the good ol' sleepers
Ahh, I knew you'd come.
To stand before the Elden Ring. To become Elden Lord.
What a sad state of affairs.
I commend your spirit, but alas, none shall take the throne.
Queen Marika has high hopes for us.
That we continue to struggle. Unto eternity.
cheers i always killed him i wonderd what he said
He doesn't say all that he's dead before
SHUT UP BRO! YOU'RE WEIRD!!
_streams the entire shrek movie in his eyes_
I NEED HELP
I shall never be made fun of for dual Eclipse Shotel again.
Wrong
bozo
While I'd never argue against updated netcode, I think for the specific problem that status effects pose, just fixing the problem of phantom hit buildup would make the game much better. Ds2 didn't have that problem, and yet every other Fromsoft game does. I'm not going to assume its an easy fix, but they HAVE done it before, and its something they should 100% pay attention to.
Ds2 continues to be the goat of the souls series
You just wait until there's more weapons with base sleep buildup from the DLC...
4:56 thank you for the reminder to rewatch this video
At some point you’re going to start a player covenant dedicated to waving at G9
That is NOT a bad idea
Ranni looking absolutely radiant recently.
Would love some merch with this art 🥹😍🌖
Simp
down to the abyss
bad to the bone
@@glatykoffi6672 Heisenbones: 🎶bownownahnownahno🎶
Don’t tell Chuck I’m here I gotta learn
Secret's safe with me, Saul
I honestly think that no matter how many things can ruin pvp, it’s really down to players who choose to use these boring and ridiculous mechanics.
It's poor game design if the most effective tactic is boring and ridiculous to play with/against. Even if you personally like running off meta fun stuff, you'll still encounter [insert shit setup/strat] shitters and you, as a player, can do nothing about it (other than quitting the game)
@@haoyu53 believe me, the classic bull goat legs with scaled armor + flame halberd always bore me to death
No, it's down to the developpers that makes the game. The players can only play how the devs let them.
@@glatykoffi6672 I disagree. Something will be busted every patch. You have a choice you know. Nothing is stopping you from using fun weapons and fun armor, it’s you who chooses to use whatever is meta
@@glatykoffi6672 I once again disagree. I’ve seen countless players be friendly and use fun builds. Guess some people want to win easily. Even I put myself in check, I do a fundamentalist ring build halo scythe included but at most I’ll cast triple rings twice in a fight. I don’t spam it, it’s not fun
This is ingame Ranni when we're not around
Look at the ring. I think its her after the Dark Moon ending. Disheveled housewife vibes.
I actually enjoyed DS2 pvp a lot today maybe I should keep playing that :)
Based
I’ll never forget that ds3 moment when I got a backstab on someone and got backstabbed by the player I was backstabbing.
I cannot tell you how many times I proc bleed in pvp, see the animation, hear the sound, but absolutely nothing happens. No damage whatsoever.
Someone did the death blight glitch to me today, somehow he entered the arena standing right in front of me a proc’d deathblight with fias mist (which I couldn’t see) any idea how this is done ?
Probably hacking. Just block them
unpopular opinion: frost is also strong for how easy is to apply, it reduces your hp by 10%, it makes your stamina regen slower, and most importatly, it reduces your defences by a significative ammount, basically it makes you more vulnerable to next attacks and it slowers you.
edit: also about sleep/madness, while you're in the animation your defences are lowered by a lot, making the next attack deal a lot more of damange. so you can literally recive a 3 hit combo that can almost delete your whole hp bar.
4:38 XD
That Frostussy hits different 😩
It is quite strong, indeed, imo just behind sleep, and above bloodflame as it has more options to use it.
Every status is easy to land thought.
I dont do much pvp atm, my build is WAY too toxic for that💀
The arcane scaling on greases needs a severe nerf. Drawstring soporific grease is normal 42 build up, the fact that even 45 arcane builds up 280% of it is busted. At 80 arcane it’s 330%. For chopping halberds strength and dexterity get slightly highly AR for similar builds, but arcane gets a busted bonus or the ripple halberd.
A case for Bleed and Frost @OnlyWaifu, with the removal of passive poise counting, all that is left is status counting. Meaning you can dictate when your next attack will stagger your opponent, even through hyper armor. There are some Super Armor exceptions, but status are the only thing in PvP that a player can use to secure advantage through hyper armor and to some extent even i-frames. Otherwise the game would be very awkward to play, since you can always reaction Hyper Armor depending on ash of war/weapon.
The old Bloodhound step dual naginata bullgoat users were the most cancerous thing I have ever experienced in any pvp system
same energy as the full Lapp players with murky
Hey thanks for the sleep jump tip. That's gonna make my life a little easier.
I think if you roll Bloodflame at the proccing rather than the hit you can roll the bleed.
Considering they ain't fixing the i-frames build up as they should have done that in their *previous* games, they should remove the stun on the proc.
The status are strong as they are and all it does, is create jank. The status doesn't deserve true combos and FREE hitstun just for them.
without region based servers or matchmaking this is the only way to defeat players with horrible internet, VPNs or lagswitches. This needs to stay till they change how players are matched
I'm glad i stay mostly outta PVP, every PVP i've ever fought in was, annoying to say the least.
As someone who most might consider more honorable then others in this game's PVP i've only met a few who don't go for cheap tactics and all.
Also damn Ranni why you gotta call me out on the soda?
malenia bath water got me for a sec, i dont gonna lie
Thank For The Menu Navigation Tip!
Thanks for the healthful suggestions in the end of your videos Rannie
Wow! Spiral Horn Shield does that! (equips while going through Caelid!)
If the death lightning and shotel were going to do high base damage in the first place, then why not nerf it and buff the deathblight buildup?
because it's super hard to balance in a way that doesn't make it OP or useless
@@the_dennator7723 IMO it's very disproportionate especially with the death lightning. It can regularly do about 1200-1500 damage per strike, leaving to value for the deathblight. Switching the damage for buildup would make the spell feel more unique and fun instead of another lightning spell.
@@ausi6758 there is no right way to balance a meter that instant kills you no matter what
@@ExTremZero There's items and spells that instantly remove the buildup when used right
@@ausi6758 only because there is a item that can remove it doesnt make it less a pain to deal with.
Bleed needs to be a dot/stun, instead of a chunk and can be proc’d over And over. It’s too rampant and makes everything easy mode
Should also look into how op antspur is when they have it able to do by dual wielding it with different ashes of war and stuff able to do bleed, rot, poison, and frostbite
so you should be able to cast beatsly condition to deal with frost and bleed buildup if you cats faster than munching
you can cast order healing to deal with death blight
Malania's bathwater is a very generous description of Malania's super syphilis...
No madness grease or pots *Yet*
DLC bustedness looms
I'll slam only wafiu with my based Faith build 🤓😁
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He doesn't know
Okay, I have to ask: What is your program used for voiced A.I.?
i think they could fix it by making status effects not proc during i frames but that would make going through poison swamp areas easier. maybe they could do that but only for PVP or something
If it were as simple as an on/off switch they would’ve fixed it by now. It’s likely caused by interactions deep in the engine that fixing would require reworking a huge chunk of the engine.
@@bilowik123 It's the same code that the sounds and effects (damage noise and bleed splatter) use, they happen even with no actual hit... and it's been this way for several games.
@@glatykoffi6672What spageti-code solution is that?
I can't find a single good reason as to why.
God damn it. Ranni really called me out at the end when I went to take a sip of my Ginger Ale. 💀
On the one hand its a pain, on the other there would be no way to pressure or catch even marginally competent runners or hyper passive players.
and if someone gets deathblighted it was probably deserved
I like how, instead of nerfing something only in pvp, Downzaki's nerfs it for the entirety of game
Blood flame is really the only problem here.
I think the real problem here is the net code. I really wanted to get into PVP, I tried for days. Half my matches had really bad connection and man, those are no fun at all.
I got into it, because I thought, that fighting against human sized enemies would be fun because you can parry them and backstep, to nearly evade attacks and counter.
But most of the time, all I can do is rush the enemy and hope my hits land before theirs, because timing is just not possible.
They should make so that only poison, rot and death proc on i-frames. That would basically make the game function like dks3 where you could roll out of bleed
I rarely do comments, but this one I had to lol. I was eating some popcorn and watching the video and near the end, I lift up my 2 liter of pop and took a swing of it, then she made the comment of "put that soda away and drink some water", perfect timing and I didnt expect her to say that lol
I wish they made Death Blight work on npc invaders... because honestly going through Fia's champions just to get a spell that's only useful against another player is bs, and makes it feel like it's just there to be annoying to the player instead of a thing that's just a part of the world we're exploring.
The status effect on phantom procs are a good thing. It makes high lat fights more enjoyable than they used to be. Forces you to mak3 actual decisions instead of being passive with a runny poke weapon since it's like pulling teeth to rollcatch/whiff punish a high lat player. Usually if youre complaining about phantom procs, you would have already been dead on a low lat match whether it being whiff punished or actually roll caught.
The JeeNine reference😅 he’s starting grow on me😬
-laughs in Jungle hybrid"-
Imagine if ER had rollback netcod
Waifu I've used bloodflame blade to speed up varre's quest am i still your favorite grease gargler
The worst status effect is the net code and latency that's why I've never play pvp again.
the only actual true infarmation elden ring channel
I'm really hoping to see madness 👀
Was not disappointed 😂 Even better that there was the old clip of being repeatedly sniped by it 👌
Facing status effect builds inflicts me with madness irl.
Ranni is the ULTIMATE arms_crossed.png
She can sip, have the sassy hand on the hip AND the arms_crossed.png
Legendary
Network delay will always be a problem for online games, thefe are techniques to reduce the impact, but especiall, PVP games with need of quick reactions and even worse peer-to-peer networking will always result in a bad experience
Like the robot voice also I agree with this video
It all goes back to the netcode and phantom hits, ALWAYS
I can’t help imagining Mio being a gamer during her older years.
I want to see the gym this Ranni visits.
You might be the best channel I have seen on pvp work. Well done.
4:47 nice
try talking about blackflame next stuff life blackflame blade with a spinning slash ash of war is op at times if it has bleed it can be a bit op just a bit i 1 shoted a dude with blackflame tornado cause i think it true combos on ash of war
If you don’t panick roll you can escape the final blow of black flame tornado.
i know but most panic@@ni9274
Literally me drinking soda and first time ever watching one of your vids and got scared for a second. How tf she knows?
"I'm in your walls"
someone with blood flame star fist got the bleed effect on 3 times within maby more then a second. Is there no cool down on bleed like when your affected by poison?
No cooldown, at all.
Id say pre nerf bleed was indeed broken. And status still needs a lot of work. Its suppose to be status BUILDUP, not instant win button by simply landing a power-stance attack, that also immediately procs all bleed equipment like white mask, blood talisman boosting your damage, stuns the opponent and usually outright kills them. Getting status procs is suppose to be a reward for landing consecutive attacks, the attack bonuses from white mask and the bleed talisman might as well just give you 30% more damage all the time if you can proc them with a single attack.
Really its a joke that people called bleed a status buildup in the first place because there was no buildup, they might as well have cheated an extra 1,000 AR on their weapon all the time since you only have to land 1 attack to win most matches. Actually an extra 1,000 AR would still be more fair because it doesn't stun you just from getting hit once and you can at least dodge normal attacks. You add awful net code and not being able to actually dodge status even during i-frames, you get the worst souls PVP since Demon Souls was released.
It literally destroys the community. Think of all the people who picked up Elden Ring who never played a souls game coming in and getting one-shot over n over, try to i-frame attacks and yet it doesn't work, for new comers and casuals that's got to be obnoxious. And they will either think that the Souls series is just dogshit and always like this (it wasnt) or just decide this entire series and genre is not for them. And I cant tell you how many times Ive seen people in the comments say they wont have anything to do with the online aspect of the game because of this nonsense, they PVE only. This is what I mean by destroying the community, driving out everyone except the people who like running these broken builds, hardcore fans and Souls veterans who can fight against this awful jank through sheer skill and experience.
I just wish Fromsoft would get away from this one-shot type of balancing where all you gotta do is press L1 and win the fight. Hell, Dark Souls 2 has far more balanced PVP than this. There was a reason that PVP scene blew up and was so good, even though most people thought DS2 was the worst souls game, people were down for the PVP and online aspect. Personally I still very much enjoy ER, but Ive been playing these games since Demon Souls so I can deal with it. But I would never expect a new comer or average joe to just deal with the lack of common sense balancing and fair play. If I didnt have the years of practice and skill I dont think Id enjoy the online play like I do. I would probably get frustrated and play something else thats actually competitive, balanced and not a busted meme.
That intro was god tier.
How to fix pvp (haward cannot afford me):
>when(dmg)=not taken
->no status effect applies
Tada
Modern problems like latency are probably why in person fighting game tournaments are still so popular. Can't blame your bad plays on lag if there isn't any.
Every multiplayer game : Server ticks goes brrrrrrrrr
FromSoft : No, I don't think I will
well, given the fact that the average Souls game fan considers PVP a plus of these games I see no reasons for From to improve the netcode, they seem a far better studio than many others when it comes to respect for their customers but they still have budgets to meet
Frost infusion is also very cheap, there's not much of a drawback to use it, it has stun effect, it has debuff effect, it has insanely high proc without any stat investment and it's that makes it the most commonly used infusion in the game
Most fighting games use roll back net code maybe fromsoft should try that too fix the issues?
the lag just makes the experience miserable. when from figures that part out, we'll be in business.
inside the *attack - proceeds to demonstrate the most broken glitch in the game
I can't play pvp at all for some reason and I don't know what to do. Does anyone know what could cause this bug? it happened when 1.10 came out
If you are getting the bug that tells you the ps plus is not being verified by from software in the menu.. I was getting this I fixed it by logging in and out of my account
And yeah I got this bug sometime after 1.10
Ah yes, *Frenzied Flame Inc.* ** sh-buh sh-buh**
Edit: Waifu is an AI of culture
Japanese game companies when a western version of their game has better netcode. Not sure if Lords of the Fallen with have the same subtlety and nuance as Fromsoft games but I bet $1000 the PvP will be LEAGUES better.
We’ve been through this before. There’s a good reason the DS3 devs nerfed bleed into obscurity, and never even made frost viable. They knew if status was even *decent* that the netcode would cause it to be OP as fuck. I’m just glad it isn’t as nuts as it was at launch.
Auntie Ranni!? I didn't put that ring on your finger to call you Auntie!
make pvp or pve build video
Not fromsoft using a "reworked" version of the same netcode the wrote up in 2009
Just no way, i can never live without soda's FP generation..
Status effects are the only way i can compete playing from australia. Why are there no regional servers is beyond me.
Mid 40s drip
I like your mug, I’m taking it
She spoke like 4 different dialects in this video. Love it.
what program do you use for rani the witch xd
It's not a program. That's Ranni. She forces me to make videos for her.
@@OnlyWaifuYT i wish rani would force me to do things 😏
@@OnlyWaifuYTyour videos were better before this ai voice cringe
God, I think I'm still traumatised by how awful coming up against someone with dual bleed naginata used to be. It was like "Damn, they hit hard.... shit, I better he... oh, I'm dead!" lol
Dodge