I got OTT on my 23 tacoma. I get 22-24 mpg. SR5 V6 4wd DBL Cab LB. I just drove through town to chikfila and back and got 21.1mpg in town. With a tune I am doing just as good as the 24 tacoma.
Thanks for the note on the tailgate making noise when closing the doors. It was driving me crazy. I was going to fully look into it this weekend. You saved me some time!!
What I’m hoping is that the fact that the Tacoma won’t “boogie” like the ford or chevy reflects the typical conservative Toyota design philosophy, and this engine will last 300k miles.
Yeah, I'm waiting for my delivery and because of these videos already have a rubber washer prepared for that cord and those little adhesive rubber bump stops for the inside of the glove box. 2 dollars worth of "fixes" that nobody will even realize are there.
Bingo.... but how about that extra couple miles per gallon with that 4 banger Made In Mexico? Toyota can't let the EPA spec their 4X4's and retain its previous outstanding long term quality.
Idk how you are getting such bad mileage. LMAO. Even before tuning my 23 Tacoma I was getting 18-20 in town depending on how many redlights I hit. I am getting 24 consistent on the interstate now with Overland Torque tune. I am outperforming the 24. I have more HP with the tune than the 24 now to. One thing I can tell you is massive offroad tires, tons of bolt on mods, and shitty low quality gas will kill your mpg. Top tier fuel makes a difference. Not high octane fuel but Top Tier fuel. I guarantee you throw 33-35" all terrain/mud tires on the 24 and start adding light bars and shit the mpg is going to go to crap. Not to mention other channels have shown the new 8 speed trans runs hotter with larger tires.
Toyota can triple the amount of recalls on their vehicles and they'd still be more reliable than any domestic. That's how bad domestic vehicles are when it comes to reliability
Bro what recall🤣. I pre ordered this truck. There were No recalls. 99% of people in this damn comments hating usually have the credit score of 500 and under smh
I know you are doing what you can and it is nice you went over all the body and interior details. All I hear about the engine and trans is "mileage" from pretty much every press reviewer. I want to hear about rock crawling, serious off roading, towing max tow range on hills and all these things done frequently for close to a year. Most testers sound like they gave it the soccer mom test. Everyone seems scared to treat this like a Toyota 4X4 to predict long term reliability. Once again thanks for your efforts.
We hear you on this. Sadly many Toyota owners treat these like soccer moms with REI parking lot light bars. That being said, we wheeled the heck out of ours. Check out our other videos.
Two months is Long Term? Yesterday I watched a video where a man had a 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road with a manual transmission. He had 318K miles on his Tacoma. Now that’s Long Term
Sorry for any confusion, in our line of business long term is what you would call a test vehicle that we have purchased to have long term, to really get to know them, and provide an ownership experience for viewers. Most of the vehicles you see on RUclips are from a local dealer or from a manufacturers press fleet. Dealer loans usually take place on the actual lot, or are loaned for a few hours to film. Manufacturer press fleet loans are a week give or take. Anything longer than that is considered a long term tester that is owned by the media outlet or in rare cases is loaned from the press fleet for long term feedback. Thanks for watching.
A few things. First............my white TRD Off Road has white trim, so I don't think it's just the Sport that's color matched LOL. Second, you confirmed what I suspected about the rattle when closing the door. I'll have to dampen that tailgate cable. Third, and this is a BIG third.....YES on the no shiny crap on the dash thing. I have a Porsche 718 which I LOVE, but the brushed aluminum trim on the dash and around the shifter can be absolutely blinding. I wish more companies considered that. Hell, even my 2016 TRD Off Road had chrome trim around some stuff which was obnoxious. Good video!
No need for Scotch felt on tailgate cable. Just give the thin metal located at the eye of the cable a slightly more bend in order to make it more snug.
TFL actually broke the ADD (automatic differential disconnect). Toyota replaced the entire differential to investigate what happened. The only other problem I’ve seen online is the radiator shutter failing which seems to me to be an unnecessary component. See Car Care Nut review of the Tacoma. It’s a very thorough assessment from a mechanics point of view! This guy knows his 💩!
I rented one for 6 days, engine sounds like a small tractor engine but did have plenty of power for everything I did including hauling a load of firewood. With firewood loaded even with the bed it seemed to bottom out the suspension on every small bump. Gas tank seems small, fill up netted 290-300 mile range @ 21 mpg avg, shocking coming from a F150 with 700 mile range. I don’t like the large blind spot at 1-2:00 in the windshield for a tall guy. Overall I liked it with some negatives that I could get over, I can’t get over the price so will probably never own one.
I had auto push start and I loved it.if they don't bring back the 6 cylinder ,I will switch to the frontier.i can get a loaded one for the same price as a mid dakota.
My only concern that yall didn’t mention is that both of your knees are resting against the center console, which seems like it would kinda suck long term.
@@sinister184 Center console's don't like you, eh? Most old vehicles didn't have anything that came close to height of today's. Even in my 90's Integra the shifter was practically on the floor. I'm 5'9'', I've got a Rav4 right now and I can't stretch my right leg out on long drives with cruise control. it actually does get pretty annoying. I don't know what they do this.
I am able to consistently get 24mpg on the interstate with my 23 Tacoma tuned. Anywhere from 18-22 mpg in town depending on red lights and tards pulling out in front of me.
22 MPG isn't much better than what I get in my 2021 TRD Pro. For the added complication with the turbo I'm going to stick with my third gen for now. Nice truck though, enjoy!
Gas tank only 18.2 gals vs 3rd gen at 21.1 gals and almost the same MPG’s.. Still NO gas hood struts..why ? Maybe to reduce the price and save weight? Expect more stops to the gas stations…
@TexasTruckChannel lol. You are right. It will take at least a few years for people who commute a lot but unfortunately that's when many people will know if the 4cyl was a good move. We will see.
Appreciate the content but not sure why you guys (all social media) take these stock vehicles off-road with stock equipment espcially tires. Equip it appropriately then take it off-road.
Lots of vehicle manufacturers do not allow then to be modified. They won't even let them air down tires. If they own the Taco they can do whatever they want. Most reviewers are getting loaners from Toyota.
@@drn13355 Good to know. I assumed they owned this truck. If they do, they should modify it appropriately. If they don't and it's a loaner then Toyota should figure out a way to promote their vehicles in the best light. I'd rather see them state what a stock vehicle comes with while this vehicle shown has the following upgrades making it more off-road worthy. Thank you
So disappointing , they should have stuck with the 6 cylinder. You might get 300k but, it's weak truck.😂 That turbo will go out. They just stuck a throw away motor in it to be eco friendly
No. Some of the reviewers choose to only say positive so as not to get kicked out of program. One of the only channels I've seen be brutally honest in their reviews is saavagegeese channel. This channel is good too but I would have liked a true offroad test review that shows whether the TRD really lives up to its badge and price tag.
Yea it seems to be a trend. Freightliner, Kenworth, Navistar, Hino, International, DINA, MAN SE, Mercedes-Benz, Isuzu, Scania, Cummins, Detroit Diesel, Chevy, Volkswagen, Peugeot, Renault and RAM to name a few...
@@jmyers6175 yeah, those guys are willing to work the shifts and don't bitch about it. they also work cheaper, don't have to sneak over the border and still get to legally work for toyota, and they are putting together badass trucks. automotive is usually a global effort, but i would like to see some plants in the US making some of the trims...
@TexasTruckChannel I watched them all concerning the mid size trucks. It's hard not to notice that the GM twins outperformed the Taco and the Gladiator. I guess that G80 makes a big difference.
@@TexasTruckChannel demonstrated what? were you doing it in 2 wheel drive, because i didn't see the front wheels doing anything and that's basically what you needed unless you were going to ramp up it. i couldn't believe you made it look like the tacoma couldn't even get up that little berm. lol
“Long term” is considered a test vehicle that is being test long than the usual 1 week loan. We purchased this truck for long term testing rather than a manufacturer loan.
Mileage is impressive. Just did a 200 mile road trip yesterday in my 3rd gen. Averaged mid 17 mpg on the highway 70-75 mph.
it must have been all uphill?
No uphill, just turd gen engine with winter gas, I get the same, worst in town
@@robsturgill1352 BETTER GET IT FIXED....my 3rd gen gets 21 to 23 MPG, depending on how or where i drive it.
@@billw8476so do I
I got OTT on my 23 tacoma. I get 22-24 mpg. SR5 V6 4wd DBL Cab LB. I just drove through town to chikfila and back and got 21.1mpg in town. With a tune I am doing just as good as the 24 tacoma.
Really enjoying your channel and the Tacoma series. Great work guys.
Thanks for the note on the tailgate making noise when closing the doors. It was driving me crazy. I was going to fully look into it this weekend. You saved me some time!!
Glad it helped!
What I’m hoping is that the fact that the Tacoma won’t “boogie” like the ford or chevy reflects the typical conservative Toyota design philosophy, and this engine will last 300k miles.
Keep on dreaming..😂
@@robertyoung8289If Ford and Chevy could build reliable trucks then nobody would buy these…but…
There's reports of over heating issues with the turbo. Wait for the 2025. That one will be a better and more dependable truck.
You're hoping a horse whipped 4 cyl turbo is going to last 300,000 miles in a 5k lb truck-lette?
@@oscarposada6144 It will still have an underpowered 4 cyl though.
Great review! How does this compare with a Nissan Frontier. I think Frontier has an advantage of price
I would try a rubber o-ring on the bed cable rattle.
Yeah, I'm waiting for my delivery and because of these videos already have a rubber washer prepared for that cord and those little adhesive rubber bump stops for the inside of the glove box. 2 dollars worth of "fixes" that nobody will even realize are there.
I can't believe anyone noticed it. I wouldn't do anything to it.
@@Dusdaddy some people notice noises from their vehicles
TFL did a test of a brand new Tacoma on a moderate trail. Front differential and transfer case exploded 1st run on a light crawl.
Bingo.... but how about that extra couple miles per gallon with that 4 banger Made In Mexico? Toyota can't let the EPA spec their 4X4's and retain its previous outstanding long term quality.
No auto start/stop? Tacoma just moved up my list.
Amen!
I have a Huffy with no start stop, make me an offer.
Some trims have it.
I have no idea how yall are getting such great mileage. I'm getting 12.4 in my 2023 TRD Offroad. I love everything else though
Almost entirely the 8 speed.
Idk how you are getting such bad mileage. LMAO. Even before tuning my 23 Tacoma I was getting 18-20 in town depending on how many redlights I hit. I am getting 24 consistent on the interstate now with Overland Torque tune. I am outperforming the 24. I have more HP with the tune than the 24 now to. One thing I can tell you is massive offroad tires, tons of bolt on mods, and shitty low quality gas will kill your mpg. Top tier fuel makes a difference. Not high octane fuel but Top Tier fuel. I guarantee you throw 33-35" all terrain/mud tires on the 24 and start adding light bars and shit the mpg is going to go to crap. Not to mention other channels have shown the new 8 speed trans runs hotter with larger tires.
22 mixed is good mpg for any truck.
yeah my 2005 4runner gets 15 so im in.
these guys lying about leg room was hilarious
I just drove one and I’m 6’4 265 and had good room in it
Two months is long term?
only on the 4th gen.
was diff lock on when trying the hill at the end? It didn't look to be.
No it wasn’t. We were attempting it in 2wd at first.
Tacoma sales down 60% with numerous recalls. nuff said!!!!!!!!
Toyota can triple the amount of recalls on their vehicles and they'd still be more reliable than any domestic. That's how bad domestic vehicles are when it comes to reliability
@@tlasmuiraqua5049 TFL did a test of a brand new Tacoma on a moderate trail. Front differential and transfer case exploded 1st run on a light crawl.
Bro what recall🤣. I pre ordered this truck. There were No recalls. 99% of people in this damn comments hating usually have the credit score of 500 and under smh
Link one official recall to me rn
Awesome! Just awesome!
Great review. I’m thinking of trading my 21 Trd OR, but will probably wait till next year & see how the hybrid max does too.
Thank you for being honest about the Ford Ranger and how it ' Rips ' in Sport mode because it totally does,,,, and this doesnt..
The Ford is a gay piece of garbage tho....
I know you are doing what you can and it is nice you went over all the body and interior details. All I hear about the engine and trans is "mileage" from pretty much every press reviewer. I want to hear about rock crawling, serious off roading, towing max tow range on hills and all these things done frequently for close to a year. Most testers sound like they gave it the soccer mom test. Everyone seems scared to treat this like a Toyota 4X4 to predict long term reliability. Once again thanks for your efforts.
We hear you on this. Sadly many Toyota owners treat these like soccer moms with REI parking lot light bars. That being said, we wheeled the heck out of ours. Check out our other videos.
@@TexasTruckChannel Those REI man buns are wound tight.
Two months is Long Term?
Yesterday I watched a video where a man had a 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road with a manual transmission.
He had 318K miles on his Tacoma.
Now that’s Long Term
I drive a 1985 Toyota. That's serious long term. Just saying.
@@BigHouse907 I had a 78 that I drove for 24 years and in 02 it died with 488K miles
Sorry for any confusion, in our line of business long term is what you would call a test vehicle that we have purchased to have long term, to really get to know them, and provide an ownership experience for viewers. Most of the vehicles you see on RUclips are from a local dealer or from a manufacturers press fleet. Dealer loans usually take place on the actual lot, or are loaned for a few hours to film. Manufacturer press fleet loans are a week give or take. Anything longer than that is considered a long term tester that is owned by the media outlet or in rare cases is loaned from the press fleet for long term feedback. Thanks for watching.
Do you have a link?
My 2017 I'm og owner I have 231k + miles
A few things. First............my white TRD Off Road has white trim, so I don't think it's just the Sport that's color matched LOL. Second, you confirmed what I suspected about the rattle when closing the door. I'll have to dampen that tailgate cable. Third, and this is a BIG third.....YES on the no shiny crap on the dash thing. I have a Porsche 718 which I LOVE, but the brushed aluminum trim on the dash and around the shifter can be absolutely blinding. I wish more companies considered that. Hell, even my 2016 TRD Off Road had chrome trim around some stuff which was obnoxious. Good video!
No need for Scotch felt on tailgate cable. Just give the thin metal located at the eye of the cable a slightly more bend in order to make it more snug.
I get 22-24 consistently in my v6 2.7 F-150.
Kind wish the Taco got much better milage
TFL actually broke the ADD (automatic differential disconnect). Toyota replaced the entire differential to investigate what happened. The only other problem I’ve seen online is the radiator shutter failing which seems to me to be an unnecessary component. See Car Care Nut review of the Tacoma. It’s a very thorough assessment from a mechanics point of view! This guy knows his 💩!
There is Auto Start/Stop on 4x4 Limited FYI! Also my tailgate does not rattle.
Would you recommend the iforce or iforcemax for engine longevity with some occasional towing?
IForce. Less complex and no hybrid battery to replace down the road.
@@TexasTruckChannelthanks, I appreciate it!!
I rented one for 6 days, engine sounds like a small tractor engine but did have plenty of power for everything I did including hauling a load of firewood.
With firewood loaded even with the bed it seemed to bottom out the suspension on every small bump.
Gas tank seems small, fill up netted 290-300 mile range @ 21 mpg avg, shocking coming from a F150 with 700 mile range.
I don’t like the large blind spot at 1-2:00 in the windshield for a tall guy.
Overall I liked it with some negatives that I could get over, I can’t get over the price so will probably never own one.
I'd rather have a Ford Ranger after seeing TFLs experience with their Tacoma.
I’d rather my 2001 Tacoma with a rusted frame
Huh? I'm no Toyota fan but a certain amount of failures/breakdowns is not only acceptable, it's expected. All mechanical items WILL have failures.
I just bought a Tundra instead
@@dustinclark8946 which trim and how do you like it so far? Give us a mini review.
Doughnuts in the deep snow looks like fun?
Hybrid Tacoma with 465 torque. Coming soon.
🤮🤮🤮
It's like the tundra. Its a boost that lasts a couple seconds, then the battery has to recharge. Its so they can market higher number.
you lost me at hybrid. lets keep gas cars gas!!
Full size ram with a v6 gets that mpg, with plenty of room and no unreliable turbo
Wow 2 months is long term now? 😂That’ll make it easier for Ford and GM to compete for sure. I was under the impression that long term meant 4 years 😮
Turbos have been out for years…why is everyone talking trash🤔I’d rather have lively power, better looks, better interior, better tech👍
Tacoma for the win!!
All you had to do is turn on mts and select a mode to easily go over that. Or locker
TFLs latest video shows the Ranger beating all of the midsize trucks in drag racing. So it shifts better than Tacoma and all the other ones.
Totally, we have yet to drive the new Ranger, but based on the 23’ Ranger we know it will be faster than our Tacoma.
Those Ford 10 speeds don’t last
I don't drag race,so the toyota will last longer than a ford.
I had auto push start and I loved it.if they don't bring back the 6 cylinder ,I will switch to the frontier.i can get a loaded one for the same price as a mid dakota.
Cause i drag race a pick up?
The limited is 4WD and has that stop/start button.
My only concern that yall didn’t mention is that both of your knees are resting against the center console, which seems like it would kinda suck long term.
I have the 24. I'm 5'9 and haven't noticed any discomfort with the seating. And I like to sit pretty high.
These are kinda big dudes though. If you're a plus sized individual then maybe a mid-sized (skinny pants) truck isn't for you.
@@mad-meh2719 Thanks for the feedback.
@@Scroll_Lock It has more to do with interior design than truck size. I've fit better in a hardbody Nissan than some newer not-so-midsize trucks.
@@sinister184 Center console's don't like you, eh? Most old vehicles didn't have anything that came close to height of today's. Even in my 90's Integra the shifter was practically on the floor. I'm 5'9'', I've got a Rav4 right now and I can't stretch my right leg out on long drives with cruise control. it actually does get pretty annoying. I don't know what they do this.
The lack of v6 i think will hurt this truck sales.
For a while it will I agree with you but as everything goes four bangers it’ll be a thing of the past Times are a changin my friend
buyers aren't going to have much choice going forward: basically Frontier or Ridgeline for mid-size
@@jamesdonaldson7396 for now till those are next gen
For now...year or two everyone will be accustomed to having a turbo.
Close the hood! Im eating. 🤮
This one has a 14 inch display right?
No I believe that’s the 8inch display. The 14 is taller and goes past the dash line
I am able to consistently get 24mpg on the interstate with my 23 Tacoma tuned. Anywhere from 18-22 mpg in town depending on red lights and tards pulling out in front of me.
22 MPG isn't much better than what I get in my 2021 TRD Pro. For the added complication with the turbo I'm going to stick with my third gen for now. Nice truck though, enjoy!
You want how much and you have to do QA mods right off the line?😅
My 94 hilux 4wd would’ve made the small hill in two wheel and not smack the bottom
Transmissions are going out, it does have issues. Most first year production do. At least Toyota will fix it though.
lol..."This thing should have more issues than it does"... Might want to edit and repost this vid!
Gas tank only 18.2 gals vs 3rd gen at 21.1 gals and almost the same MPG’s..
Still NO gas hood struts..why ? Maybe to reduce the price and save weight?
Expect more stops to the gas stations…
Go Rangers!
At 5'9 you could fit into my old 2006 ranger with the jump seats.
If your version of “long term” on a vehicle is 2 months, you are going to be broke forever.
But I do appreciate the review!
I cant wait until i find a video on a real long term video, like 200k miles plus.
We just hit 7k today. Hang tight. Someone will have that video in 4/5 years.
@TexasTruckChannel lol. You are right. It will take at least a few years for people who commute a lot but unfortunately that's when many people will know if the 4cyl was a good move. We will see.
Me gusta toyota tacoma para Elizabeth
Still wanna see you run a few tanks of premium to get some real world results
Regarding MPG or regarding performance?
Appreciate the content but not sure why you guys (all social media) take these stock vehicles off-road with stock equipment espcially tires. Equip it appropriately then take it off-road.
Lots of vehicle manufacturers do not allow then to be modified. They won't even let them air down tires. If they own the Taco they can do whatever they want. Most reviewers are getting loaners from Toyota.
@@drn13355 Good to know. I assumed they owned this truck. If they do, they should modify it appropriately. If they don't and it's a loaner then Toyota should figure out a way to promote their vehicles in the best light. I'd rather see them state what a stock vehicle comes with while this vehicle shown has the following upgrades making it more off-road worthy. Thank you
we need some more toyota paid sites to brag this tacoma up
No Toyota payments here
better have 1.5 inch lift up,,, man,,u hurting the bottom,,,
proudly made in Mexico instead of Texas...no thanks!
yeah bro fixing bad designs with cheap scotch crap on a $50k truck
what a piece of sheeet
Lows = not reliable
And ugly.
auto start/stop is stupid
Tacoma 3rd gen > Tacoma 4th gen
no doubt!
So disappointing , they should have stuck with the 6 cylinder. You might get 300k but, it's weak truck.😂 That turbo will go out. They just stuck a throw away motor in it to be eco friendly
I must be the only one that sat in a 24 and thought the seats were uncomfortable because every RUclipsr is talking about seat comfort.
No. Some of the reviewers choose to only say positive so as not to get kicked out of program. One of the only channels I've seen be brutally honest in their reviews is saavagegeese channel. This channel is good too but I would have liked a true offroad test review that shows whether the TRD really lives up to its badge and price tag.
Yeah but the Chevys have cylinder deactivation, lifters, and auto/stop start BS. And they are...well...Chevys.🤣
How much did toyota pay you to lie
Basically, very poor driver.
4 cylinders SUCK!!!!
How so?
-Said Very Poor Driver
Three months is not a “long term” time period. 100,000 miles or 5 years is long term.
The wheels are absolutely horrid. Wheels make the exterior of a vehicle. Toyota design didn’t show up on wheel day.
Too much Bullshit !
its like trying to defend Joe Bidens presidency
Host mumbles too much.
mexican truck
Yea it seems to be a trend. Freightliner, Kenworth, Navistar, Hino, International, DINA, MAN SE, Mercedes-Benz, Isuzu, Scania, Cummins, Detroit Diesel, Chevy, Volkswagen, Peugeot, Renault and RAM to name a few...
Climate is better than Detroit. No UAW. Lower wages. No unemployment benefits. Build them there and sell them here.
@@jmyers6175 poor quality.like everything mexican
@@jmyers6175 yeah, those guys are willing to work the shifts and don't bitch about it. they also work cheaper, don't have to sneak over the border and still get to legally work for toyota, and they are putting together badass trucks. automotive is usually a global effort, but i would like to see some plants in the US making some of the trims...
So it won't climb that little hill unless you engage the computer nanny? That's lame
Oh no, we just demonstrated it at the request of a viewer. Check out our full hill test episode to see is walk up the hill.
@TexasTruckChannel I watched them all concerning the mid size trucks. It's hard not to notice that the GM twins outperformed the Taco and the Gladiator. I guess that G80 makes a big difference.
@@TexasTruckChannel demonstrated what? were you doing it in 2 wheel drive, because i didn't see the front wheels doing anything and that's basically what you needed unless you were going to ramp up it. i couldn't believe you made it look like the tacoma couldn't even get up that little berm. lol
ruclips.net/video/Zsr3vMct5ew/видео.html
long term? get real, come on.
“Long term” is considered a test vehicle that is being test long than the usual 1 week loan. We purchased this truck for long term testing rather than a manufacturer loan.
Dang, do these guys mumble. Sounds like they have marbles in their mouth.
Bs,
In my opinion it's junk
Hencho en Mexico. No gracias.
It's sucks
got the new tacoma and the turbo engine lasted all of 3 months, pure junk. Going to sell it for a 2020 model with real engine