Been using my m4 iPad Pro base model since July. My only regret is not buying more storage with it. I use it primarily for reading, and writing notes. I also use it for content (movie, music) streaming whenever i am at a hotel. Basically my personal content device.
@@envynoirbetter go overpowered than underpowered! (Yeah I do agree it's to much for what this person does, if they have the money for it and they love it why not!)
The M4 ipad pro once again brings back the magical feeling I’ve been longing for since the ipad 2. I used it everyday since launch day and it feels amazing. I don’t hate ipad os and it’s perfect for what I do.
1- I take my own product photos and edit on the ipad. 2- sketch some concepts and present in front of the team then get real time feedback from my lead designer and artists. Especially storyboarding the iPad is way more convenient. 3- I like to draw / paint on the ipad more than on my Cintiq 4- I also run my ERP app on the ipad, manage about 190 employees for my manufacturing 5- I take note at my night class using the ipad. (Going for another master degree) None of those tasks require me to carry anything other than the ipad and current iOS app. 6- when I need a teleprompter for a commercial, iPad app is perfect. 7- just like any other people, I consume content when Im not working. That’s me doing nothing haha
The leap from my ancient iPad 4 to the M4 iPad Pro is mind-blowing! Went all-in with the 13” 1TB + Cellular model, Magic Keyboard, and that sweet new Pencil Pro. Yes, it cost me a small fortune, but considering how long I kept my last iPad, this beast will be my daily driver for years to come. 💪 One thing though - dear developers, please stop treating iPad apps like stretched-out iPhone versions! We need proper desktop-class functionality built from scratch for iPadOS. The hardware is incredible, now let’s get software that truly matches its potential! 🚀
As a former iOS dev, I kind of get why things are like this - iPadOS is essentially just iOS, so you're mostly just running everything the same under the hood, and I think for most companies, it's a lot easier to justify repurposing everything in that sense. It's also hard at times to break out of that iOS style just given what you have to work with at times, but I agree some apps leave a lot to be desired.
@@The_MEMEphisthat stuff doesn’t work reliably. i’ve had 8 phones since 2015 which was the first time i had hotspot, only 2 phones i had worked with hotspot at least half the time.
@will-zj5gq I've literally never had an issue using the hotspot on my phone you just have to make sure you pay for it specifically since your hotspot data is separate from your regular monthly high speed data limit
Ive been using my 13 inch M4 with Magic Keyboard as my main computer/laptop for the past 3 months. It has performed brilliantly for me. I depend on it as my digital art tablet for drawing and animation…but it does everything i need out of a computer. With the Magic Keyboard, you have brief moments where you forget it’s an iPad. Might not work for everyone, but ive been pleasantly surprised.
@@KYVTrocks I’m a private Process Improvement consultant and run my entire business with my iPad Pro. Presentations, book keeping, Excel, etc, all done on my iPad Pro without issue.
@@Joemightycalifornia I have the old Pro m2 and use it now for around a year. I accepted now That the iPad is just a Tablet for me and Placed a Order for the new MacBook to replace my failing Surface Pro 2 in 1. for my Workflow the IPad just doesnt work. All the Problems startet with Random Display disconnects and external Drive Problems under iOS 17, with iOS 18 Most of That is fixed But the iPad is Still just a Tablet in my oppinion. Everybody That was hoping for iPadOS18 to be the next Big thing was suprided That they didnt do anything.
Didn’t think I need another tech channel in my life, but I really appreciate your attention to detail and the unexcited way of delivering information. Thank you for the content.
Unless you type a lot, for photo editing and content consumption just get the Apple Folio case. You can type on the screen and keep the iPad thin and light.
Honestly love it, myself. I had a moft one before which tried to do the same thing with fold out flaps for different adjustments, and it was alright, but the ESR one is a lot more stable and well thought out IMO.
I think the M4 iPad Pro could become the default device for any work that isn't really computationally intensive if they just allowed you to duel boot macOS. Since the M1 iPad Pro the main let down with the pro iPad's have been iPadOS being too basic to take advantage of the hardware and make iPad's usable for things they can't really do with iPadOS atm.
@@soft6418no it wouldn’t, iPad pros with magic keyboards are much more expensive than MacBook airs. Especially now that MacBook airs come standard with 16 GB. That, and MacBooks have a 15inch screen option and much better battery life. There will always be people who get a MacBook over the iPad
Decided to upgrade my 2019 MBP base model with the M4 11” Base model. It’s been such a delight to use as a mobile computing device, with enough punch to make it a portable gaming console, a great school device, and an extremely portable creative machine I can just use for anything. And the screen is just gorgeous. The best screen in my house by a lot, and I appreciate how well it has held up these last few months. I might regret getting the Magic Keyboard, but it just went up in price lately in my region, so I think I made the right move if I ever wanted it in the future.
I opted for 11” M2 iPad Air. As a programmer, I cannot give up my Mac. So I prefer to user iPad as a tablet first. The price of iPad Pro is not justifiable for me, plus M2 iPad Air is practically an iPad Pro of the past. It’s very powerful for what I need for. Just casual getting things done on the go or when I’m away from my computer + reading and entertainment.
I bought the 11 inch with 512gb a month ago, using it everyday for editing photos and stream movies. I just love using that pen when it comes to photo editing. But to be honest, it’s not faster than my previous one. iPad Pro M2, not for my user case. Also the export in Lightroom is even worse and slower with new update. But one thing they fixed, cleared up storage every time you delete a photo. Before you (or I) had to reinstall Lightroom now and then. If you’re not a fanboy like I am and want the latest tech. Go for an older version :)
Enjoyed the video, thank you! I have the 13 inch myself and I feel like it's my favorite device of all time. It's just incredible at everything, and it's a constant companion throughout my day (I work from home, wife is in healthcare so I'm usually by myself here). I enjoy the large form factor, but I totally respect the Mini is better for some like you mentioned near the end. The other device that shocked me recently is the M4 Mini for 499 from the EDU store (anyone can order from there there's no check). 499 for that beast of a computer is the best deal in tech, possibly of all time. I can't wait to use my 13 inch Pro as the secondary monitor for the Mini! Anyways cheers!
Just got a iPad Pro yesterday and it’s an amazing machine a lot better than a MacBook for me I use it strictly for entertainment purposes movies tv shows music RUclips etc
Well, to wrap it up, it’s worth its money if: a) you spend time to adjust your workflow to the iOS difficulties, b) you appreciate the fact that you can use it both as a tablet and as a laptop. I have to admit that since I bought it, my MacBook Air M2 is getting super dusty.
I also had that inner discussion/conflict myself when I decided between the 11 inch M4 or the 13 inch one. And like others have said it's definitely depends on your needs/use case for the individual. I would use this in bed to watch Netflix/RUclips etc so I think the smaller/lighter 11 inch would make more sense/be more comfortable for men for extended use❤️ I also did buy a magic keyboard and while it's nice to type on the web browser or in messaging apps, I wouldn't use this to type word documents/excel etc. I also have a Surface Pro 9 which has a 13 inch screen and I don't really use it as a tablet TBH so I felt like getting the 13 inch iPad Pro would be redundant/wouldn't make sense for me. So for all these reasons I went with the 11 inch and put a DBrand Skin on the iPad l, the keyboard and am LOVING it so far 💻💻❤❤❤❤❤
Is it worth it over previous pro models? For me it’s a hell no! I returned mine because though the OLED screen is great it’s not a night and day difference from the mini-LED or even the LCD screens for that matter. As far as a media consumption device I think the price is ridiculous. You can get an OLED television for that price
I’ve noticed that using my notes app on my iPad m4 iPad causes the notes app to get pretty warm and chew through battery pretty quickly? Anyone else notice that?
been using the m4 13 inch for 2 months now. the things i don’t like about it the battery life. it drains so fast. it should be at least similar to the macbook’s. but i love everything else about it specifically the nano texture display. that’s why i prefer the m4 over the other ipads. it’s expensive but if money isn’t a problem then it’s 100% worth it 😍 i use it for everything now, didn’t expect that since it’s my 1st ipad, better than macbooks and iphones for social media apps, browsing, reading & watching movies.
Suggest you have your local Apple store run a diagnostic check on your device. It shouldn’t be running through battery charges so quickly. I had a similar experience with an iphone- took it in for a free evaluation. It took all of 3 minutes for Apple to determine a faulty component inside the phone running hot and draining the battery. Replaced my device on the spot under warranty.
Every new iPad Pro i had to get it because I use iPad quite intensively, even though I have a MBP M2 Pro Max. This year however i went with the 13” M4 iPad/Nano instead of the 11”, wow, what a difference the size make. I don’t think I would go back to 11”. iPad is a better option for carrying it around, like me, to the home and office. Thank you for this video.
Great Video! I have never used a device that much. It took some time to get used to the file management and the missing multi tasking but the iPad Pro is the best tablet I ever used.
Since i got my m4 iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard 3 months ago, I haven’t even touched my MacBook Pro 16” M1 Max. Not once, considering selling it but i know if i ever need a laptop ill just end up spending way more than id sell it for to get another one so its just collecting dust right now lol
I'm not sure if it was just my unit. Or is it a tandem OLED drawback. But when watching HDR videos. If there's a light, let's say a lamp. It just becomes two lamps, hope you got what I mean but it bothered me. And the display coating was just horrible. It only looks like an OLED in pitch dark environment.
I upgraded from an iPad Air 5 to the 11” M4 iPad Pro. Why, you ask? For dumb reasons, like Touch ID being an absolute annoyance with my fingers, or the 60hz refresh rate for illustration in Procreate… but having Face ID changed my life in so many ways! I don’t regret the upgrade for a second, as I still find myself reaching for my iPad every single day for various use cases, including content consumption and browsing on the couch. My gf inherited my older M1 iPad Air 5 and she’s happy with it.
I find myself pretty much using my 13 inch M4 all the time. I think it's the convenience of having cellular. I leave my laptop at home almost every day. The new keyboard feels great and the pencil pro is amazing. I was disappointed after the release but since apples AI updates I can't put it down.
If Capture One Pro ever develops an iPad version that has 90% of the functions of their desktop versions, (I shoot with Fujifilm cameras) I would only have an iPad Pro and not an iMac or a MacBook Pro. That’s how great photo editing is on an iPad Pro.
While everyone seems to want iPadOS to run like macOS, I actually love that it’s a native touch-based OS that can work like a laptop with the keyboard. It already handles 90% of my laptop tasks, and I wouldn’t want it to be just another laptop. I appreciate it as it is-the OS brings a sense of simplicity and intuitiveness that macOS just doesn’t offer.
I agree with this premise, but I think this issue here is that this is a $1400 device after everything is said and done. When the iPad was initially dreamt up by Steve Jobs, he saw it as a netbook replacement that would be used in schools as something cheap students could use as a replacement for textbooks and light computing. When you've got something with this level of power and features, you're sort of drifting outside that notion, and I think it's reasonable to expect this to do a lot more.
I don't think many people want to get rid of iPadOS, most want to be able to switch between iPadOS and macOS when they feel like it which should be technically possible since it is the same chips used in MacBooks. Most people just feel that the iPad pro line is going very close to being an actual laptop or notebook and just want apple to actually let it happen which would make it a much more useful device to a lot of people. As it is just now even though you can get a proper laptop style keyboard for it and connect external displays and devices, it is still just a tablet but it is technically capable of so much more and is just held back by the OS.
@@conorstewart2214 I totally understand your point. However, as you mentioned, it’s a tablet-first device. As a UX designer with over 15 years of experience designing interactions, I see the inherent conflict in designing for touch-based experiences while also adopting mouse and keyboard patterns simultaneously. That said, I can’t think of a better solution than having a touch-based OS with optional keyboard and trackpad support. Trying to fully integrate both paradigms into one OS often results in a subpar experience for both use cases, as seen with Windows 11’s gimmicky touch support. Ultimately, the keyboard and trackpad are accessories-optional add-ons. The iPad is still fundamentally a tablet that promises a mobile, touch-first experience, prioritizing media consumption and content use cases over the productivity focus of laptops. I’m not defending it, but I just don’t see any other approach that could work better.
@@KyleErickson Apple’s design philosophy would never allow the option to boot an iPad into a different OS-and while I wish it could, I understand why they don’t. For Apple, seamlessness is everything, and the iPad’s keyboard and trackpad are considered accessories, not core to the device. Asking users to choose an OS just to watch Netflix or use touch-based apps would break their vision of a cohesive experience. Instead, what truly needs improvement is the App Store and its ecosystem. Apple should push for a revamp of iPad application design patterns, encouraging developers to create experiences tailored for the iPad, rather than simply scaling up stretched versions of mobile apps.
In the USA, carriers offer installment payment plans. The initial cost is not paid upfront. Any taxes or down payments depend on your account status or if you are a new customer. I wonder if those issues you are having are only you or an unknown issue.
Really cool to see someone, using stage manager, too :). I go iPad only with my 11" M2 and it works for me. Although I wish I had a mac, especially for ms office, the iPad is the far better better device for single use.
i agree with a lot you've said here... I took the plunge & got one, purely wanted mostly for music reasons, and some graphics (pixelmator limited with pencil pro) i'd gone from a 2016 i think it was. 9'7 screen which felt heavier somewhat... for a couple of weeks or so, i've enjoyed using it so far, even transitioning everything wasnt too painful, as it was user error, took 2 tried, but flawless the second time.. the one awkwardness found is the more you tilt the screen, trying to type back letters, the fingers knock the screen edge. the pencil pro was a nice surprise to use.. over all its been good using music apps and the limited pixelmator app.. which i hope they will implement extra controls in a later version.
The issues with the new Magic Keyboard that you mentioned is also present on the previous Magic Keyboard. I have the M2 iPad Pro and the first version of the Magic Keyboard and I have experienced the issues you mentioned. When I use the safari version of the gdocs suite I have to press the “no I’m not interested” button to remove the app download popup, and sometimes the trackpad also sticks and does not scroll the page. Surprising and disappointing to see that Apple hasn’t fixed that with the new Magic Keyboard.
The other day I ordered a iPad Air 11 to replace my 8 year old 12.9 iPad Pro 2nd gen. The screen cracked 2x and the battery is just about completely shot. I ended up cancelling it and just picked up a 11 pro m4 fomo I really didn’t want to spend the money and it’s hard to justify it. I figure that if my 12.9 lasted 8 years and it’s still usable then I should spend the extra 300 to future proof myself as much as possible. I do occasionally use it to edit photos in Lightroom and I want to start simple edits of some videos occasionally. Hard to say if I made the right decision but the display quality is pretty amazing. One other reason I went with the pro. I do go down to Florida to hang out with the parental units a few times a year and I do use it outside. My 2nd gen 12.9 is supposedly 600 nits. It is usable outside but not great. I was worried that going the wrong way with the 500 nits 11” air wasn’t going to be good outside
I got the M4 iPad Pro 11” a couple months ago. Overpriced? Yep. But I don’t regret it. Few weird bugs though, there is a weird screen-graininess in a dark room and low brightness on the ipad…it’s pretty strange.Sometimes when I’m on data, I can’t click links in a page until the page is completely loaded, which is annoying and only happens few and far between. I love the new trackpad for the magic keyboard, but I love the feel and balance of the older model, but the function row is absolutely worth the triad off. At the end of the day…it is still an ipad, so I still use my PC for work when I get home, but I don’t actually feel the need to run home to get on the PC when I am out and about during the day. The new apple pencil pro’s squeeze feature is freaking game-changing too btw, I use it for eraser, it sounds silly, but it really does improve the writing experience and you can udjust the amount of squeeze you need to activate it, it also unlike the double tap feature, de-activates while you’re writing which is nice.
Also, turn off math notes and suggestions if you actually write…it is annoying and keeps getting in the way. Turn it back on or something after you are finished writing and stuff. Or…just use a dang calculator lol
Same here. Which is frustrating because I want to use the pro more at work. Taking notes in meetings and for whatever else but the mini is just smaller and not as awkward to use
Gosh, I've got the older iPad Pro before the M1 chip, and I really wish it had external screen support (extended). But I'm not keen on buying a new keyboard and pencil all over again... I'm gonna see if I can snag a good deal on the iPad Pro M2 this Black Friday. If not, well, I might just have to treat myself anyway... So expensive, lol!
I've been really tempted to upgrade from my M2 Pro, but it's just not worth it for me. I've seen the t-oled in person at the store, but it's at full brightness and doesn't look any better than mine, though I'm sure it is. I just forked over for the iPhone 16 Pro Max so Apple won't need money from me for a while. I had a mini6 for a while and I definitely reached for that more than my 12.9" Pro, but I traded it in for an 11" Air - no regrets there.
Not to sound annoying, but when it comes to the google web applications like sheets, you're not able to use trackpad or mouse clicks on that pop-up button at the bottom.. I have the same problem on my iPad Pro M2 when using my Magic Keyboard or mouse. I also have the problem with the trackpad not scrolling sometimes. Hope this helps.
3 months on ipad air m2 with pencil pro and had the ipad and pencil swapped because of intermittent apple pencil detecting on screen same happened again return window passed otherwise id be returning it alot of people have the same problem yet no one talks about it in videos
It’s interesting 11” iPad Pro still makes iPad mini 7 more conveniently comfortable to you. I own the 12.9 iPad Pro, I didn’t think 11” would do that. I guess it’s about the canvas where an artist has needs for full paintings and the handy pad companion. ❤ nice round up review. I would personally give up mini convenience to use my iPad in my use case.
How big is the diffrence between the Pro's display and the iPad mini 7 LCD display? Ofc it is completely diffrent but you said you prefer the iPad mini rn so that is why I am wondering.
Do you use a screen protector? I am going to upgrade mine and I was thinking to go without any protection, just use the Magic Keyboard with the iPad. How scratch resistant is the screen?
I use a screen protector because I got some really faint scratches on mine. It's a double edged sword because it protects the screen, but you also put a little more distance between teh pencil and screen, and it's a little more reflective.
It is expensive but always has been, and prices have been stable over the last few cycles. The pricing is obvious, and people who cannot afford it will not buy it. So, it is really about those who can afford it and whether they should upgrade this year. As with the MacBooks and iPhones, Apple has made such great devices for the last 4-5 years that they remain relevant, and owners are finding it hard to justify an upgrade even with the new OLED and M4. I only upgraded from my M1 iPad Pro 11 because that never had miniLED, so the display is a good upgrade, and the M4 is a nice step up. It may be harder to justify for owners of iPad Pro 13-inch M1s. A fantastic piece of kit that hopefully will last for 5-7 years.
I've also loved using my M4 iPad Pro 11" since launch. I think you should also try out the "more space" display mode under display/brightness settings and it makes the iPad feel like there's a lot more space than the normal scaling mode
I’m an artist using a 13 iPad pro m4. The battery sucks, as well as the camera. It heats up a lot. My illustration apps freeze and lag, some crash. I’m pretty dissapointed with this new iPad Pro. The screen is pretty though, but that’s about it.
My bro you definitely have something wrong with your Magic Keyboard. I’ve got the 12.9 and it hasn’t had a single hiccup. I would get really annoyed if I spelt that much money and it wouldn’t scroll properly. Take it to Apple. You have footage. Web number was defective a few tears ago I filmed it and they replaced it I in 5 seconds no questions asked.
I’m going to buy the iPad Pro 11 256gb (gotta save money) and I’m buying a random esr case I hope the 256gb are enough I will take notes play some games and watch RUclips and Netflix is the 256gb enough ?
For Netflix, note taking and RUclips 256gb is great but if you have to download a lot of stuff such as audiobooks and/ or movies especially as well as doing a lot of photography it’s probably best to get an iPad with more storage. Games don’t usually take up that much storage and should be fine for 256gb.
Are you bothered by the 480hz frequency PWM dimming of the tandem OLED? I acknowledge that most people’s eyes are not sensitive to flickering, however, there are still many people arguing that they suffer from side effects by the pulses of OLED, especially when it comes to a low frequency of 480 times per second.
I don’t like leaving negative comments but this video felt more like a rehash of the last review. Also I own this iPad and rarely get two days of battery life, even when I’m just consuming content
I just ordered to the 13 inch 256 gig from my old 2019 iPad Pro. I was told the black iPad casing is somehow faster than the silver. I’m glad a lot of comments are saying good things about. Can’t wait to use it.
For me, the 13-inch iPad Pro with the M4 chip has completely replaced my Mac, which I eventually sold. I still keep a Windows PC for gaming, as Windows remains the dominant platform for PC games. Beyond that, mobile devices have taken over tasks I used to perform on laptops. The iPad’s design offers a simplicity that traditional PC operating systems lack, yet it doesn’t feel limiting. With cloud services now available for various tasks, an iPad meets the needs of most people, alongside a smartphone, of course. I’m eager to see how artificial intelligence will influence and transform computing in general.
I honestly don't think this is worth it. They are making us pay for a piece of hardware which doesn't get used almost at all by most apps. That freaking device is way too powerful for it to have the normal restrictions that an ipad has with that OS. I hope in the next few years apple will fuse macos and ipad os to make them one and the same thing.
I’m hesitant to buy it because the OLED screen might suffer from burn-in or develop a green tint over a long period of use. Even Samsung’s OLED screens have faced this issue, which makes me concerned about its durability.
Bruh modern oled last upwards of 5 years. Here apple is using 2 oled panels, so each individual panel has to work even less hard, so it will last even longer. And none of Samsung’s new flagship oled screens have faced any burn in, cheaper panel of course will
its using tandem oled technology which apparently drastically reduces it / eliminates it, i have the 13 inch m4 ipad pro and the screen is stunning and so bright for the size
It’s not really an issue anymore, the screens technology improvements, on top of the tandem design which reduces the required brightness for each panel, they also use pixel shift. If you kept it at maximum brightness on the same image for days I imagine it would burn in over time but that’s not a realistic use case.
I was paused at 10:47 wondering if you were just trolling or being a goofball, and it wasn’t until I played the video for 1 seconds past your timeframe that I saw a glance at the sex dollcthing, look, if we finally beat Medicaid. Thank you President Biden, President trump? Well he did beat Medicare he beat it by a lot
Been using my m4 iPad Pro base model since July. My only regret is not buying more storage with it. I use it primarily for reading, and writing notes. I also use it for content (movie, music) streaming whenever i am at a hotel. Basically my personal content device.
that makes sense, it can be pretty easy to fill up storage on the base model!
Does urs overheat while taking notes
Ans drain fast
You bought a M4 for that? I don't think a Pro model was the right choice for you. lol.
@@envynoirbetter go overpowered than underpowered! (Yeah I do agree it's to much for what this person does, if they have the money for it and they love it why not!)
The M4 ipad pro once again brings back the magical feeling I’ve been longing for since the ipad 2. I used it everyday since launch day and it feels amazing. I don’t hate ipad os and it’s perfect for what I do.
1- I take my own product photos and edit on the ipad.
2- sketch some concepts and present in front of the team then get real time feedback from my lead designer and artists. Especially storyboarding the iPad is way more convenient.
3- I like to draw / paint on the ipad more than on my Cintiq
4- I also run my ERP app on the ipad, manage about 190 employees for my manufacturing
5- I take note at my night class using the ipad. (Going for another master degree)
None of those tasks require me to carry anything other than the ipad and current iOS app.
6- when I need a teleprompter for a commercial, iPad app is perfect.
7- just like any other people, I consume content when Im not working.
That’s me doing nothing haha
This is what I wanted. How is your battery? My battery sucked
@ mine is so so. I usually push it so hard, so I get about 6 hours out of it with 70% brightness
@@khoifoto and on standby? mine was draining 3% per hour :0
Oh my God, I think the same thing every time I hold it it’s like I’m holding an ankle 9.7 inch iPad from back in the day but with bigger screen🥰
The leap from my ancient iPad 4 to the M4 iPad Pro is mind-blowing! Went all-in with the 13” 1TB + Cellular model, Magic Keyboard, and that sweet new Pencil Pro. Yes, it cost me a small fortune, but considering how long I kept my last iPad, this beast will be my daily driver for years to come. 💪
One thing though - dear developers, please stop treating iPad apps like stretched-out iPhone versions! We need proper desktop-class functionality built from scratch for iPadOS. The hardware is incredible, now let’s get software that truly matches its potential! 🚀
As a former iOS dev, I kind of get why things are like this - iPadOS is essentially just iOS, so you're mostly just running everything the same under the hood, and I think for most companies, it's a lot easier to justify repurposing everything in that sense. It's also hard at times to break out of that iOS style just given what you have to work with at times, but I agree some apps leave a lot to be desired.
True. There’s a lot of potential in iPad design patterns which would elevate 80% of the apps out there!
Why cellular just use your phone hotspot
@@The_MEMEphisthat stuff doesn’t work reliably. i’ve had 8 phones since 2015 which was the first time i had hotspot, only 2 phones i had worked with hotspot at least half the time.
@will-zj5gq I've literally never had an issue using the hotspot on my phone you just have to make sure you pay for it specifically since your hotspot data is separate from your regular monthly high speed data limit
Ive been using my 13 inch M4 with Magic Keyboard as my main computer/laptop for the past 3 months. It has performed brilliantly for me. I depend on it as my digital art tablet for drawing and animation…but it does everything i need out of a computer. With the Magic Keyboard, you have brief moments where you forget it’s an iPad. Might not work for everyone, but ive been pleasantly surprised.
Amazing that you are able to use the iPad in that Form , I run Into the limitations of the OS so fast..
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I’m a private Process Improvement consultant and run my entire business with my iPad Pro. Presentations, book keeping, Excel, etc, all done on my iPad Pro without issue.
@@Joemightycalifornia I have the old Pro m2 and use it now for around a year. I accepted now That the iPad is just a Tablet for me and Placed a Order for the new MacBook to replace my failing Surface Pro 2 in 1. for my Workflow the IPad just doesnt work. All the Problems startet with Random Display disconnects and external Drive Problems under iOS 17, with iOS 18 Most of That is fixed But the iPad is Still just a Tablet in my oppinion. Everybody That was hoping for iPadOS18 to be the next Big thing was suprided That they didnt do anything.
SAME.
@@KYVTrocksyeah using an iPad with an external monitor isn’t it.. that’s what a laptop is for.
Didn’t think I need another tech channel in my life, but I really appreciate your attention to detail and the unexcited way of delivering information. Thank you for the content.
Unless you type a lot, for photo editing and content consumption just get the Apple Folio case. You can type on the screen and keep the iPad thin and light.
I have and love that ESR shift magnetic case. The back is magnetic and i can stick it to the refrigerator while cooking!
Honestly love it, myself. I had a moft one before which tried to do the same thing with fold out flaps for different adjustments, and it was alright, but the ESR one is a lot more stable and well thought out IMO.
I think the M4 iPad Pro could become the default device for any work that isn't really computationally intensive if they just allowed you to duel boot macOS. Since the M1 iPad Pro the main let down with the pro iPad's have been iPadOS being too basic to take advantage of the hardware and make iPad's usable for things they can't really do with iPadOS atm.
That would kill MacBook sales
@@soft6418no it wouldn’t, iPad pros with magic keyboards are much more expensive than MacBook airs. Especially now that MacBook airs come standard with 16 GB. That, and MacBooks have a 15inch screen option and much better battery life. There will always be people who get a MacBook over the iPad
I took mine back but soon as it dropped down I will get another one
Decided to upgrade my 2019 MBP base model with the M4 11” Base model. It’s been such a delight to use as a mobile computing device, with enough punch to make it a portable gaming console, a great school device, and an extremely portable creative machine I can just use for anything. And the screen is just gorgeous. The best screen in my house by a lot, and I appreciate how well it has held up these last few months. I might regret getting the Magic Keyboard, but it just went up in price lately in my region, so I think I made the right move if I ever wanted it in the future.
I opted for 11” M2 iPad Air. As a programmer, I cannot give up my Mac. So I prefer to user iPad as a tablet first. The price of iPad Pro is not justifiable for me, plus M2 iPad Air is practically an iPad Pro of the past. It’s very powerful for what I need for. Just casual getting things done on the go or when I’m away from my computer + reading and entertainment.
I bought the 11 inch with 512gb a month ago, using it everyday for editing photos and stream movies. I just love using that pen when it comes to photo editing.
But to be honest, it’s not faster than my previous one. iPad Pro M2, not for my user case. Also the export in Lightroom is even worse and slower with new update. But one thing they fixed, cleared up storage every time you delete a photo. Before you (or I) had to reinstall Lightroom now and then.
If you’re not a fanboy like I am and want the latest tech. Go for an older version :)
Enjoyed the video, thank you! I have the 13 inch myself and I feel like it's my favorite device of all time. It's just incredible at everything, and it's a constant companion throughout my day (I work from home, wife is in healthcare so I'm usually by myself here). I enjoy the large form factor, but I totally respect the Mini is better for some like you mentioned near the end.
The other device that shocked me recently is the M4 Mini for 499 from the EDU store (anyone can order from there there's no check). 499 for that beast of a computer is the best deal in tech, possibly of all time. I can't wait to use my 13 inch Pro as the secondary monitor for the Mini! Anyways cheers!
Just got a iPad Pro yesterday and it’s an amazing machine a lot better than a MacBook for me I use it strictly for entertainment purposes movies tv shows music RUclips etc
Well, to wrap it up, it’s worth its money if: a) you spend time to adjust your workflow to the iOS difficulties, b) you appreciate the fact that you can use it both as a tablet and as a laptop. I have to admit that since I bought it, my MacBook Air M2 is getting super dusty.
Thanks for the thorough followup. I opt for older gen iPads and 3rd party cases, they do a fine job at a better price.
Followup?! This is day 1 review with a files app bug report for colour.
I also had that inner discussion/conflict myself when I decided between the 11 inch M4 or the 13 inch one. And like others have said it's definitely depends on your needs/use case for the individual. I would use this in bed to watch Netflix/RUclips etc so I think the smaller/lighter 11 inch would make more sense/be more comfortable for men for extended use❤️
I also did buy a magic keyboard and while it's nice to type on the web browser or in messaging apps, I wouldn't use this to type word documents/excel etc. I also have a Surface Pro 9 which has a 13 inch screen and I don't really use it as a tablet TBH so I felt like getting the 13 inch iPad Pro would be redundant/wouldn't make sense for me. So for all these reasons I went with the 11 inch and put a DBrand Skin on the iPad l, the keyboard and am LOVING it so far 💻💻❤❤❤❤❤
I had a 12.9 inch m1 just got the new m4 there’s a massive change in the display
I have the 15” MacBook Air M3 with 24 GB and 1 TB and an 11” iPad Air with cellular.
This whole package still is just way too expensive for what it is. Better off getting and older M1 iPad Pro package or a newer MBA.
I’ve been rocking a 4th gen (pre m1) ipad pro since 2020, never had any problems and I’ve used it pretty much every single day.
One of the best iPad I have ever purchased only limitations is iPadOS I Have bought 11 inch bcos I like compact instead of 13 inch
How is your battery? My 13" was draining 3% per hour on standby I had to get rid of it. is the 11 better?
Is it worth it over previous pro models? For me it’s a hell no! I returned mine because though the OLED screen is great it’s not a night and day difference from the mini-LED or even the LCD screens for that matter. As far as a media consumption device I think the price is ridiculous. You can get an OLED television for that price
I love the lower weight, the nano texture and the display (brightness and color).
I’ve noticed that using my notes app on my iPad m4 iPad causes the notes app to get pretty warm and chew through battery pretty quickly? Anyone else notice that?
me too , no one is talking about it
been using the m4 13 inch for 2 months now. the things i don’t like about it the battery life. it drains so fast. it should be at least similar to the macbook’s. but i love everything else about it specifically the nano texture display. that’s why i prefer the m4 over the other ipads. it’s expensive but if money isn’t a problem then it’s 100% worth it 😍 i use it for everything now, didn’t expect that since it’s my 1st ipad, better than macbooks and iphones for social media apps, browsing, reading & watching movies.
Suggest you have your local Apple store run a diagnostic check on your device. It shouldn’t be running through battery charges so quickly. I had a similar experience with an iphone- took it in for a free evaluation. It took all of 3 minutes for Apple to determine a faulty component inside the phone running hot and draining the battery. Replaced my device on the spot under warranty.
Every new iPad Pro i had to get it because I use iPad quite intensively, even though I have a MBP M2 Pro Max. This year however i went with the 13” M4 iPad/Nano instead of the 11”, wow, what a difference the size make. I don’t think I would go back to 11”. iPad is a better option for carrying it around, like me, to the home and office. Thank you for this video.
Have an M3 Macbook Air and iPad mini. Great combo.
Great Video! I have never used a device that much. It took some time to get used to the file management and the missing multi tasking but the iPad Pro is the best tablet I ever used.
Since i got my m4 iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard 3 months ago, I haven’t even touched my MacBook Pro 16” M1 Max. Not once, considering selling it but i know if i ever need a laptop ill just end up spending way more than id sell it for to get another one so its just collecting dust right now lol
The video is amazing and very informative, but even as an ESL, I sped it to x1.25 speed, it felt like it was meant to be on that speed.
I'm not sure if it was just my unit. Or is it a tandem OLED drawback. But when watching HDR videos. If there's a light, let's say a lamp. It just becomes two lamps, hope you got what I mean but it bothered me.
And the display coating was just horrible. It only looks like an OLED in pitch dark environment.
Love the wuality of your videoes! keep posting
Have you found that the pen over time marks up the screen?
It doesn’t
Nice overview of the updates. Thanks. Just might consider the upgrade in the next 6 months
Fwiw ... for my artist wife, we decided on getting a M4 Pro MBP and using her m1 iPad Pro in Sidecar Mode.
Does your wife like it? I do also looking for a gift to my artist wife
@@chcylabrab She won't receive it until Dec 2...so can't say yet ;)
@@musiccreation1198what about now?
@@brzdai She's very happy. Before she would run out of ram & processing power with her massive PS files....now her workflow is fluid and "pain free",
Superb, well paced review, and great advice for the accessory case. Many thanks! 🙏 👍👍
I upgraded from an iPad Air 5 to the 11” M4 iPad Pro.
Why, you ask? For dumb reasons, like Touch ID being an absolute annoyance with my fingers, or the 60hz refresh rate for illustration in Procreate… but having Face ID changed my life in so many ways!
I don’t regret the upgrade for a second, as I still find myself reaching for my iPad every single day for various use cases, including content consumption and browsing on the couch. My gf inherited my older M1 iPad Air 5 and she’s happy with it.
I find myself pretty much using my 13 inch M4 all the time. I think it's the convenience of having cellular. I leave my laptop at home almost every day. The new keyboard feels great and the pencil pro is amazing. I was disappointed after the release but since apples AI updates I can't put it down.
If Capture One Pro ever develops an iPad version that has 90% of the functions of their desktop versions, (I shoot with Fujifilm cameras) I would only have an iPad Pro and not an iMac or a MacBook Pro. That’s how great photo editing is on an iPad Pro.
While everyone seems to want iPadOS to run like macOS, I actually love that it’s a native touch-based OS that can work like a laptop with the keyboard. It already handles 90% of my laptop tasks, and I wouldn’t want it to be just another laptop. I appreciate it as it is-the OS brings a sense of simplicity and intuitiveness that macOS just doesn’t offer.
I agree with this premise, but I think this issue here is that this is a $1400 device after everything is said and done. When the iPad was initially dreamt up by Steve Jobs, he saw it as a netbook replacement that would be used in schools as something cheap students could use as a replacement for textbooks and light computing. When you've got something with this level of power and features, you're sort of drifting outside that notion, and I think it's reasonable to expect this to do a lot more.
I don't think many people want to get rid of iPadOS, most want to be able to switch between iPadOS and macOS when they feel like it which should be technically possible since it is the same chips used in MacBooks. Most people just feel that the iPad pro line is going very close to being an actual laptop or notebook and just want apple to actually let it happen which would make it a much more useful device to a lot of people. As it is just now even though you can get a proper laptop style keyboard for it and connect external displays and devices, it is still just a tablet but it is technically capable of so much more and is just held back by the OS.
@@conorstewart2214 I totally understand your point. However, as you mentioned, it’s a tablet-first device. As a UX designer with over 15 years of experience designing interactions, I see the inherent conflict in designing for touch-based experiences while also adopting mouse and keyboard patterns simultaneously.
That said, I can’t think of a better solution than having a touch-based OS with optional keyboard and trackpad support. Trying to fully integrate both paradigms into one OS often results in a subpar experience for both use cases, as seen with Windows 11’s gimmicky touch support.
Ultimately, the keyboard and trackpad are accessories-optional add-ons. The iPad is still fundamentally a tablet that promises a mobile, touch-first experience, prioritizing media consumption and content use cases over the productivity focus of laptops. I’m not defending it, but I just don’t see any other approach that could work better.
@@KyleErickson Apple’s design philosophy would never allow the option to boot an iPad into a different OS-and while I wish it could, I understand why they don’t. For Apple, seamlessness is everything, and the iPad’s keyboard and trackpad are considered accessories, not core to the device. Asking users to choose an OS just to watch Netflix or use touch-based apps would break their vision of a cohesive experience. Instead, what truly needs improvement is the App Store and its ecosystem. Apple should push for a revamp of iPad application design patterns, encouraging developers to create experiences tailored for the iPad, rather than simply scaling up stretched versions of mobile apps.
In the USA, carriers offer installment payment plans. The initial cost is not paid upfront. Any taxes or down payments depend on your account status or if you are a new customer. I wonder if those issues you are having are only you or an unknown issue.
Any overheating problems? I’ve found this model has a lot of battery drain and now even more after 18.1- even if Apple intelligence is turned off.
Ya I have turned it off and now it’s not heating I’m from India but I set iPad to US English
Really cool to see someone, using stage manager, too :). I go iPad only with my 11" M2 and it works for me. Although I wish I had a mac, especially for ms office, the iPad is the far better better device for single use.
when watching movies on iTunes does it support HDR,HDR10+,DV for play back for movies?
Yes it defaults to Dolby vision and has hdr 10 support if the movie doesn’t support DV
i agree with a lot you've said here... I took the plunge & got one, purely wanted mostly for music reasons, and some graphics (pixelmator limited with pencil pro) i'd gone from a 2016 i think it was. 9'7 screen which felt heavier somewhat... for a couple of weeks or so, i've enjoyed using it so far, even transitioning everything wasnt too painful, as it was user error, took 2 tried, but flawless the second time.. the one awkwardness found is the more you tilt the screen, trying to type back letters, the fingers knock the screen edge. the pencil pro was a nice surprise to use.. over all its been good using music apps and the limited pixelmator app.. which i hope they will implement extra controls in a later version.
So you would recommend using Safari for as many web accessible tasks as possible, like social media and RUclips as opposed to the iPad apps?
The issues with the new Magic Keyboard that you mentioned is also present on the previous Magic Keyboard. I have the M2 iPad Pro and the first version of the Magic Keyboard and I have experienced the issues you mentioned. When I use the safari version of the gdocs suite I have to press the “no I’m not interested” button to remove the app download popup, and sometimes the trackpad also sticks and does not scroll the page. Surprising and disappointing to see that Apple hasn’t fixed that with the new Magic Keyboard.
my ditto and ESR cases have snug slot around pencil location, no worry about pencil getting nudge or knocked off.
The other day I ordered a iPad Air 11 to replace my 8 year old 12.9 iPad Pro 2nd gen. The screen cracked 2x and the battery is just about completely shot. I ended up cancelling it and just picked up a 11 pro m4 fomo I really didn’t want to spend the money and it’s hard to justify it. I figure that if my 12.9 lasted 8 years and it’s still usable then I should spend the extra 300 to future proof myself as much as possible. I do occasionally use it to edit photos in Lightroom and I want to start simple edits of some videos occasionally. Hard to say if I made the right decision but the display quality is pretty amazing. One other reason I went with the pro. I do go down to Florida to hang out with the parental units a few times a year and I do use it outside. My 2nd gen 12.9 is supposedly 600 nits. It is usable outside but not great. I was worried that going the wrong way with the 500 nits 11” air wasn’t going to be good outside
The battery life for me has been bad. It would die in 1-2 hour gaming
I got the M4 iPad Pro 11” a couple months ago. Overpriced? Yep. But I don’t regret it. Few weird bugs though, there is a weird screen-graininess in a dark room and low brightness on the ipad…it’s pretty strange.Sometimes when I’m on data, I can’t click links in a page until the page is completely loaded, which is annoying and only happens few and far between. I love the new trackpad for the magic keyboard, but I love the feel and balance of the older model, but the function row is absolutely worth the triad off. At the end of the day…it is still an ipad, so I still use my PC for work when I get home, but I don’t actually feel the need to run home to get on the PC when I am out and about during the day. The new apple pencil pro’s squeeze feature is freaking game-changing too btw, I use it for eraser, it sounds silly, but it really does improve the writing experience and you can udjust the amount of squeeze you need to activate it, it also unlike the double tap feature, de-activates while you’re writing which is nice.
Also, turn off math notes and suggestions if you actually write…it is annoying and keeps getting in the way. Turn it back on or something after you are finished writing and stuff. Or…just use a dang calculator lol
I have the pro and mini but find myself using the mini more.
Same here. Which is frustrating because I want to use the pro more at work. Taking notes in meetings and for whatever else but the mini is just smaller and not as awkward to use
The Magic Keyboard is definitely something i would like for my iPad but I just can’t see myself justifying £300 on a keyboard
I was thinking getting a m4 MacBook Pro but this base 11 inch m4 iPad Pro plus a m4 Mac mini may be the best for my use case.
Watching this on my iPad mini 7
Gosh, I've got the older iPad Pro before the M1 chip, and I really wish it had external screen support (extended). But I'm not keen on buying a new keyboard and pencil all over again... I'm gonna see if I can snag a good deal on the iPad Pro M2 this Black Friday. If not, well, I might just have to treat myself anyway... So expensive, lol!
I've been really tempted to upgrade from my M2 Pro, but it's just not worth it for me. I've seen the t-oled in person at the store, but it's at full brightness and doesn't look any better than mine, though I'm sure it is. I just forked over for the iPhone 16 Pro Max so Apple won't need money from me for a while. I had a mini6 for a while and I definitely reached for that more than my 12.9" Pro, but I traded it in for an 11" Air - no regrets there.
Not to sound annoying, but when it comes to the google web applications like sheets, you're not able to use trackpad or mouse clicks on that pop-up button at the bottom.. I have the same problem on my iPad Pro M2 when using my Magic Keyboard or mouse. I also have the problem with the trackpad not scrolling sometimes. Hope this helps.
3 months on ipad air m2 with pencil pro and had the ipad and pencil swapped because of intermittent apple pencil detecting on screen same happened again return window passed otherwise id be returning it alot of people have the same problem yet no one talks about it in videos
It’s interesting 11” iPad Pro still makes iPad mini 7 more conveniently comfortable to you. I own the 12.9 iPad Pro, I didn’t think 11” would do that. I guess it’s about the canvas where an artist has needs for full paintings and the handy pad companion. ❤ nice round up review. I would personally give up mini convenience to use my iPad in my use case.
How big is the diffrence between the Pro's display and the iPad mini 7 LCD display? Ofc it is completely diffrent but you said you prefer the iPad mini rn so that is why I am wondering.
Which app are you using to create the red overlaps in several scenes of this video? Is this for reduction of blue light?
Just bought the M4 iPad 1tb because the Mac mini m4 has the same cpu gpu and neural engine
I am interested in the LiDAR sensor.
Mine catches heat really fast on apple pencil utilization
Do you use a screen protector? I am going to upgrade mine and I was thinking to go without any protection, just use the Magic Keyboard with the iPad.
How scratch resistant is the screen?
I decided against the Nanotexture and use Paperlike instead because the only thing I fear are permanent scratches.
I use a screen protector because I got some really faint scratches on mine. It's a double edged sword because it protects the screen, but you also put a little more distance between teh pencil and screen, and it's a little more reflective.
It is expensive but always has been, and prices have been stable over the last few cycles. The pricing is obvious, and people who cannot afford it will not buy it. So, it is really about those who can afford it and whether they should upgrade this year. As with the MacBooks and iPhones, Apple has made such great devices for the last 4-5 years that they remain relevant, and owners are finding it hard to justify an upgrade even with the new OLED and M4. I only upgraded from my M1 iPad Pro 11 because that never had miniLED, so the display is a good upgrade, and the M4 is a nice step up. It may be harder to justify for owners of iPad Pro 13-inch M1s.
A fantastic piece of kit that hopefully will last for 5-7 years.
I've also loved using my M4 iPad Pro 11" since launch. I think you should also try out the "more space" display mode under display/brightness settings and it makes the iPad feel like there's a lot more space than the normal scaling mode
I’m an artist using a 13 iPad pro m4. The battery sucks, as well as the camera. It heats up a lot. My illustration apps freeze and lag, some crash. I’m pretty dissapointed with this new iPad Pro. The screen is pretty though, but that’s about it.
My bro you definitely have something wrong with your Magic Keyboard. I’ve got the 12.9 and it hasn’t had a single hiccup. I would get really annoyed if I spelt that much money and it wouldn’t scroll properly. Take it to Apple. You have footage. Web number was defective a few tears ago I filmed it and they replaced it I in 5 seconds no questions asked.
I’m going to buy the iPad Pro 11 256gb (gotta save money) and I’m buying a random esr case I hope the 256gb are enough I will take notes play some games and watch RUclips and Netflix is the 256gb enough ?
For Netflix, note taking and RUclips 256gb is great but if you have to download a lot of stuff such as audiobooks and/ or movies especially as well as doing a lot of photography it’s probably best to get an iPad with more storage. Games don’t usually take up that much storage and should be fine for 256gb.
can you use the magic keyboard while using that esr case?
I have the magic keyboard, but also a $30 Bluetooth keyboard that works great, with the iPad on a stand with magic trackpad is great
Are you bothered by the 480hz frequency PWM dimming of the tandem OLED? I acknowledge that most people’s eyes are not sensitive to flickering, however, there are still many people arguing that they suffer from side effects by the pulses of OLED, especially when it comes to a low frequency of 480 times per second.
My ipad pro m4 11 inch drains battery from 80 to 20% in 4hrs in normal usage
Is it normal?
I don’t like leaving negative comments but this video felt more like a rehash of the last review. Also I own this iPad and rarely get two days of battery life, even when I’m just consuming content
another good update video KE.
Thanks great review. Btw which softwares do you use for drawing ? Thanks
Procreate, and affinity photo mostly on the iPad
Still no headphone jack! at that price, I think it's incredible ,)
Hate that SSD issue with iPadOS!
I wish the Magic Keyboard had some weight to it so it didn’t tip over so easily.
Ilove my case protect from esr is great thanks for the review
I just ordered to the 13 inch 256 gig from my old 2019 iPad Pro. I was told the black iPad casing is somehow faster than the silver. I’m glad a lot of comments are saying good things about. Can’t wait to use it.
What does paint color have to do with speed of the internal hardware?
I was just searching for ipad vs galaxy tab ultra
For me, the 13-inch iPad Pro with the M4 chip has completely replaced my Mac, which I eventually sold.
I still keep a Windows PC for gaming, as Windows remains the dominant platform for PC games. Beyond that, mobile devices have taken over tasks I used to perform on laptops.
The iPad’s design offers a simplicity that traditional PC operating systems lack, yet it doesn’t feel limiting. With cloud services now available for various tasks, an iPad meets the needs of most people, alongside a smartphone, of course.
I’m eager to see how artificial intelligence will influence and transform computing in general.
Wow this was a bold statement. Is your windows system a high-performance notebook or desktop?
I really doubt all of these battery claims. My 13" M4 battery SUCKS, and I barely use or push the thing.
Definitely not worth buying.
I thought those light bulbs were the Falcon rockets landing lol
Wish I could have afforded the Nanotechnology with 1TB because that’s good for creativity
casually watching this on my ipad pro m4 13”
I honestly don't think this is worth it. They are making us pay for a piece of hardware which doesn't get used almost at all by most apps. That freaking device is way too powerful for it to have the normal restrictions that an ipad has with that OS. I hope in the next few years apple will fuse macos and ipad os to make them one and the same thing.
I’m hesitant to buy it because the OLED screen might suffer from burn-in or develop a green tint over a long period of use. Even Samsung’s OLED screens have faced this issue, which makes me concerned about its durability.
Has this issue been resolved, or could it still happen at any time?
Bruh modern oled last upwards of 5 years. Here apple is using 2 oled panels, so each individual panel has to work even less hard, so it will last even longer.
And none of Samsung’s new flagship oled screens have faced any burn in, cheaper panel of course will
its using tandem oled technology which apparently drastically reduces it / eliminates it, i have the 13 inch m4 ipad pro and the screen is stunning and so bright for the size
Buy it, this has to be the most beautiful display I had ever came across
It’s not really an issue anymore, the screens technology improvements, on top of the tandem design which reduces the required brightness for each panel, they also use pixel shift. If you kept it at maximum brightness on the same image for days I imagine it would burn in over time but that’s not a realistic use case.
what a great device costs more than a laptop and hasn't even bend in the first months
My battery health is 90 just 4 months
I don't like or have Apple products, but I adore your videos. You are so handsome. I like all your videos.
Wtf..
Couldn’t justify the upgrade from my m2. iPad Pro. I love the thing.
May was 5 months ago, not 6.
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