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0:20: Gold - need mount, new crafting, enchants, summons (hunters, mages, proffessions/farming alt/questing) 3:00: Azeroth Commerce Reputation to revered (low prio for now but will change as blizzard add new rewards) 4:16: Sleeping Bag quest 5:00: New profession crafted items quest 6:13: PVP (ashenvale, stv, AB new rep) 8:39: Key quests including Nifty Stopwatch, Skull of Impending Doom. Pre-questing (Sunken Temple, Mara). 10:13: Gnomeregan 11:19: Runes (get all as they may become relevant) + QoL runes. 12:10: Professions including secondary in case they become relevant
Hit Level 40 -> Check if you are melee or ranged dps -> if melee, then go to Character Selection and pick ranged -> Repeat leveling and maybe you find a Raidspot
Or get a guild in an mmo, or be a valuable Player or be a good melee ( as melees are perfectly viable as casters where perfectly viable in a melee dominated p1)
It’s so weird, I’ve been trying to recruit to my guild for days and no one bites… I have 97 best perf avg for paraes so it’s not because I’m “bad”.. I just think everyone is joining mega guilds because then they do not have to raid at specific times
STV leveling basically goes to lvl 50, wouldn't be surprised if they add more blood moon vendor items at lvl 50, I'm guessing the blood moon thing will be the only pvp event next phase still. And hopefully they focus on adding actual new content.
@@ZadenWoW the same question works in the other direction. Why wouldn’t you? If you genuinely enjoy doing the event( I know it rare but some people do) there is no reason not to farm the mount. If you are doing it just to get gear I understand but there isn’t resilience gear in classic so there is only so much they can so
BIS groups? People just want to do the raid in a timely manner. If you aren’t getting into runs due to your spec change or find a community that will accept you. If not then wow just isn’t the game for you lol
Yikes lol. Why not play for PVP? PVE in classic is the most braindead easy boring thing you could do anyways. Imagine playing the game to Stand still, press 3 buttons, and move out of the fire here and there 😂
All of you people whining about pugs and people on general chat asking for bis classes. Just join a guild and play the game as it was intended. I play warrior and i already done gnomer many timea with my guild no problem.
You are acting like all a player has to do is "LF guild for raiding" and suddenly players are in a raiding guild and able to raid. I have things to do during the week and on weekends and if their raid schedule doesn't work with my work and responsibilities I can't raid with them.
@@robertp457 yeah this is what they have to do or to get rejected by pugs. We all have things to do. The raid resets every 3 days and most guilds have like 3-4 raid teams. Literally there is no excuse if you don't have time to raid for like 1.30 hour once a week then do you really have time for WoW at all?
I played phase 1 a lot, but never did the raid. I got 7x lvl 25 alts. I got demotivated by the chats in game asking for X and Y requirements & I've just sort of asked myself after phase 1 if I should bother again. It's seasonal, so my progress will get wiped eventually. And I've realized that I don't really care for raids or gearing at the level cap. I have 0 friends playing (and none ever did play), I'm sure I'd do raids if I had others wanting me to join along. But for now what I actually enjoy is the leveling. Though I will say, seeing the crap you have to do for some of these new runes (and even the old ones) are making me not want to play. I hated that Metamorphosis was locked behind a raid at first, and that you couldn't realistically get it before the level cap. This seems to be the case for so many of the cool new runes I have seen. You literally need to either be a streamer & get carried to get the runes unless you're at the level cap yourself. I wanted the runes WHILE leveling & not at the level cap. I might sound super negative, lazy or whatever here; but if I had the choice to either 1. Have the runes soloable at level 25 so I could use them to level to the next cap (40) 2. Keep it like it is now Then I'd pick option 1. It'd be a lot more fun for me. I'd be leveling while finding the runes and then being able to use them right away. For example; Mind spike for priest seems to require level 30 at the first step, but then at the end you need to kill some busted lvl 40 elite? Why?? I know you can group for it, I just don't have the motivation to bother. Why lock it behind a 40 elite to begin with? I understand that it might be really fun for some people who have friends playing, but I don't. Whenever I voice my opinions on this, I always get hate or rude replies. Like "Why play an mmo if you don't like to group for stuff". I don't know what to say other than that I kind of just prefer Singleplayer but with other real people running around the world. If everything in WoW could be soloed (but maybe less rewards or something to incentivize grouping) then that'd make a better game for me personally. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy doing dungeons sometimes while leveling and at cap to gear up. What I don't enjoy is the time and effort it takes to get a group going and to prepare for a raid. & Yes I actually kind of enjoyed the LFG tool in WOTLK, because it made grouping easier and there was less shit like "reserved" or people only looking for X dps/healer/tank classes. Maybe I am the only one thinking this way. And maybe it's just because I never really had a friend group playing WoW. But for now, I enjoy watching others play more than I enjoy playing it myself.
Why? It barely changed from phase 1. Unless we are talking about the economy and such. But that doesn’t matter because you can literally do the raid 0 consumables 0 profession items
The upgrades from raids are not that good pvp is a mess the world pvp event is back to being a laggy unplayable POS it’s very alt unfriendly with rep grinds etc… the raid is fun but the class balancing is not it
I myself am doing an experiment on how insanely good avoidance you can get on a paladin tank at lvl 40 with full Defense gear and the new defensive runes. Trying to make a gold farming build where you don't need to look at the screen, just press keybinds 1 and 2 once every 10 seconds.
Phase 2 doesnt quite have that magic that Phase 1 did... Grinding the hell out of SM gets old quickly. Glad theyre adding some exp boosts atleast. Honestly they should include PVP tabards and give us specific rep for completeing events and downing raid bosses. They should also beef up dungeon loot moreso for RFD, Ulduman and SM. Some interesting questlines too for trinkets and jewelry?
@@robertp457 xp. Farming duns non stop for xp is the opposite of what an rpg is. Its about the journey, not the endpoint. Doing duns for loot is great, doing them 20+ times for xp is not.
I accidentally doubbleclicked the blacksmith blueprints in gnomeregan and wasted 50 gold instead of 25 because there was no popup window that asked me if I am sure to obtain this item... yep. This game NEEDS some QoL
I think that's because this is sort of an awkward "mid-game" phase, it doesn't have as much wonder and mystery that Phase 1 did and also lacks the epic, end game scale that the later two will have. I actually know people who do want to play SoD, but are waiting until Phase 4 comes out so they can play "the full game" in their words.
@@Meathole7At's the idea. No mount to grind for, no 10+ level bis quests to do, just funking around easily gettin rewards. Its about the same feeling every new MMO has.
I would say 6.5/10, it was a good start for something new and experimantal, but i cant really described why P2 looks more fleshed out (better talents, gear opt, raid, PVP event, sleeping bag ect) I think the Dev team is learning really fast and adapting well, looking foward to P3.@@myphan
Im still having fun but obv theres less people playing and the playerbase is souring on it more and more. This comment section, all comment sections, support this.
Confirmation bias. Psychologically people are nore likely to say nothing when they are content and only speak up if they are dissatisfied. Meaning that most people who are online leaving comments are the ones who aren’t happy. The rest are busy playing still. I have friends who haven’t hit 40 yet. Ofc all the people who make it their entire being for two weeks are done by now. There is no satisting those kind of players anyway.
People have become total slaves to social media and peer pressure. It seems noone can think straight anymore. It's a game FFS and people are treating it like a job. Back then 'gaming' was a free time niche for basement nerds. Now it's a social phenomenon with 'rules' and media coverage. It has become more of a fashion thing than a fun recreational occupation. You know.. 'you're in the football team 'cause all the cool people are playing football' - kind of thing.. 🙄
yeah well im already barely raid logging, it feels extremely stale atm or im simply burned out? idk ,im waiting for war within at this point or maybe I will try cata classic
I’m the same and was asking myself the same question, am I burnt out? Did I play phase 1 too much? I think so….. but the problem for me is how unbalanced PVP is, and the fact some classes can’t even get into gnomer groups
hit 40, played for a few days and quit. World pvp is broken by 1 shot classes and no point in doing raids when classes in green could kill me without even trying. Going back to Wrath Classic til Cataclysm comes out.
Having fun playing Warlock in SoD, only thing I really dislike is the gold sinks.. Id normally even be ok with the mount being 100g, but with the new recipes costing as much as they do + mat costs it seems a bit excessive, especially on a seasonal server with no confirmed end plan. Feels a tad bad to have to spend majority of time farming gold instead of having the accessibility to play more classes. In regular wow Im fine with grinding and farming, but I think we should really took a look at adjusting these on a seasonal realm that could be shut down sub 1 year
Without thw gold sinks people would be hoarding massive amounta of gold. A single character who dungeon farmed to 40 have around 500 in raw gold from quest rewards.
Got 160g leveling from 25-40 then another 150+ doing quests at max level. Still 2 months left of this phase and already up 300g just from leveling one character. Seems easy enough?
Blacksmith is normally for warrior/paladin plate armors. Or weapons. Leatherworking makes mail and leather armor for shaman/hunter/druid/rogue classes normally.
@@Tigly031yeah there are a few select items for sure, I just meant after 40 it is meant primarily for plate wearers when it comes to armor. Elemental and tribal leatherworking normally make the shaman/hunter/druid style mail and leather pieces.
Unless you really cannot be bothered to spend any time planning doing quests for gold will be significantly worse than farming it through other means. And this is putting aside their value for leveling which is not important unless you hate dungeon grinding.
did they finally introduce dual talents? or whats the respecc cost atm? the fact i'd have to respecc back and forth for every raid is the biggest turn down for me still
Dude right? I don’t wanna respec every 3 days, they need to get gold sinks out of their head because 1000g is likely what they want to charge for it. Even if it was 100g, that’s still outrageous. I would rather this still be casual friendly all the way to 60 and beyond. I can’t even lasher farm yet, and not every class will be able to do that anyway. Horrific to think they wanna waste our time instead of giving us engaging gameplay
Phase 1 was awesome. Idk if I'm burned out or what. But I up and decided to quit SOD cold turkey. I love/hate SOD in a way, like i love the idea of moving in a classic plus direction. But the way they do it is just adding overpowered spells that really make pvp pure cancer. I've played nothing but classic since August of 2019 and lights hope/elysium before that but I'm feeling like trying out retail again, and I had the realization that SOD is basically lukewarm retail. But beyond that I do think Blizzard has been learning from classic, and I believe that retail will be moving more towards classic styled design elements (in certain ways) but keeping the retail gameplay which the bulk of the SOD playerbase clearly loves. I hope they do use SOD as a beta for classic plus. But I hope they realized they need a restructuring too. They should use the TBC pre-patch as the base for a real, permanent, classic+ server. Level 60 cap, TBC talents (maybe tidy up the trees to fit level 60 cap), TBC abilities, spells and class tunings. And yes Blood elves and draenei opening up paladins and shamans to both factions. That is what I desire. Until then I think I will be trying out retail again as I have never stopped following the story (minus the shadowlands bullshit) and am intrigued how the Saga will play out.
I did the same, however personally hoping they don’t bring Draenei and blood elves, if they do bring new races I’d like them to go in a different direction, and I’d greatly prefer if they just gave us dwarf shaman and Tauren (or even undead) paladins for true classic+
@hungout3905 I could skip on blood elves dreanei for other races too. I would like to see ogres for the horde and either high elves or furlongs for alliance
I hate Retail gameplay and I love Season of Discovery because it is Retail DESIGN which maintains the Classic gameplay - something the Retail version of the game will never achieve again because it is made to be fast paced with lots of chores to do, to give the younger generations a sense of purpose because they get more easily bored.
@@Zinarothwithout advertising retail or give a Shit anyway. But please explain to me a) when was the last time you played retail and b) what the hell in Classic sod or not sod is NO chore? Ashenvale, STV, raid Log, Farm gold, make 8 alts. No chore? So many stupid clueless ppl in this Game lying to themselves that they enjoy the hamsterwheel hahaha
@@wastolero If you were really interested in my point of view you wouldn't have finished off by inferring that I am a stupid clueless person. You might have gained insightful perspective and knowledge on a phenomenon you seemingly don't understand, now instead you will only get me telling you to go spew your vile somewhere else.
One doesn't quit coop shooters much like one doesnt quit wow. They use different simulations for the same basic loop. The games that try to do both of these usually suck.
@@mandurrudnam7632 nah u need to wake the f up. Season of dissapointment is just a half effort project. U should all play on Turtle wow. Blizzard has taken almost every idea from them. Its the real classic +. Not this stupid shie
@@robertp457I mean my guild used to average 30 min bfd clears with 6 grps a lock out and we currently are running 3 raids per lockout in gnomer with a little over an hour a run good guilds are out there just usually aren't spam recruiting in chat
you hit Lv 40, grab whatever BS runes they farted into the game, and complete Gnomer once then log out until Season of WoWhead Part 3 drops. At that point its just Classic Era all over again.
@@zepho100I couldn’t agree more, people always “LFG” never “LFM” because majority are too lazy to create a group, or create a discord link and let alone lead a raid.
I know I am late, but it's actually not true, that the Rep farming is more time intensive than Warsong. Absolutly not. Your average Rep was 500, killing 1 Boss and End the event. You get another 200 for a win, sometimes u lose, so 500. You CAN make up to 1000 if u would kill all bosses and win, but it's not the average. However, you only need 300 coins each events to get the same average as before and alot of times you get even more than this. (At least for me and I am just a Meele) and this Rep even works after Reveled, so... No, it was not faster. You just can't AFK it anymore.
For mount I'd say it's best to use the 2 months or so in which we are stuck in phase two to grind the STV mounts. That way you don't run out of content too fast and also safe 90g
cant even make it to 40 as ally. Ive been trying to get my tusks for my ww axe and it's just so infuriating it makes me want to quit. The horde have also taken control of all boats on lone wolf. The stv event is complete aids.
Thats why you dont play on a pvp server :p you cant even enjoy a lot of parts of the world because its dominated by the opposite faction. Last time I gave pvp a shot was for Season of Mastery and I quit there after it was impossible to get into badlands to finish my warlock quest as alliance. I only play pvp on private servers, because the population isnt as crazy and you get genuine, tense and fair 1v1 fights just walking through the world
From my experience, unfortunately, the STV PVP event is unplayable due to the forced layering on groups. Twice in a row we've formed a group of 5 which is immediately layered once the event starts, and we get farmed by other groups.
According to Reddit the gameplay loop at 40 is 1 Log in 2 buy gold 3 ????? 4 log off because doing any activity promotes gold buying and gold buying ruins everything
I'm not playing SoD for the exact reasons I'm seeing here. Blizzard is actually improving the game, but players manage to make it a stressful 'meta' ridden experience, full of ridiculous gatekeepking and hordes of brainless lemmings, blindly following guides, todo lists and whatever their favorite content creators tell them. I would be out if I wasn't not in in the first place. Solo games or strictly multi with friends it is for the time being. If you're having fun, though, please by all means continue to. You do you!
I was palying mage in phase 1 and warlock man , it was amazing beacuse it took little time with mixed lvling as dungeons and little bit of questing . I done around 30 Bfd raids . It was pretty much fun . Then phase 2 come and man mage got nerfed afli warlock still suck big fat D . Everyone were rushing dungeons i couldnt even keep up beacuse i have f job and i couldnt spend all day playing so i just given up on it and even tho i tried to old school aoe with blizz and frost spec the mobs have so much HP the it is doable but in hyperspawn one mob spawn and it f my aoe completly . Not fun . Yes i know aoe face tanking isnt fair ok i get it . But man if my selling point is aoe dont f nerf it to the ground atleast with hp buffs......
if they nerf the student fodder blizz will prob c a lot of ppl getting pissed... how many ppl rushed to 40 and didnt know about the bag quest line that will have all 8 of them that will just become useless or near to it
this thing of always doing meta gaming is destroying games like this, now people are pushing hard, and then complaining that they have nothing left to do X
Boring not really original in amyway . people are worried about gear score and all sorts of retail raiding requirements. Noone plays for fun anymore its all serious and shit. Bunch of WoW junkies with their cliches.
Join a guild and create your own fun and stop pugging just because it’s what’s modt convenient for you. As long as your own personal progression is what is most important to you, you will never be happy. This goes for both ingame and in real life.
That's what you get when people suddenly feel a sense of importance in their life. Sucks if it hapoens in a game, though. Well.. actually always sucks. People depend too much on what others think. Too many spineless lemmings. I guess nowadays it's called 'followers'. They're being bred.
The more time goes on, the more obvious it becomes that making it so that the content rewards are unobtainable unless you sink time into it without the grind being fun and entertaining and something I would never want to do unless a reward was at the end is a bad game mechanic. We don’t need gameplay that isn’t fun. It’s not fun to grind BGs until exalted. Our BiS bracers shouldn’t be locked behind something we would hate doing. Why are they trying to make the game less fun? This is why new players don’t start playing, and it’s why more casual long term fans quit. The only ones left are the sweaty ones who don’t have any jobs or purpose in life, and when the casuals disappear and they can’t show off their rewards by being afk in a major city, they quit as well. MAKE THE GRIND ACTUALLY FUN. It’s not fun having to figure out how to come up with 175-300g to craft a helmet that we will replace in 10 levels. They say they wanna discourage gold buyers but then hit us with the garbage like that. Dumb af man, let’s also nerf things for no reason like SoM for pally and not buff a damned thing that needs it. I don’t know why blizzard starts with such a strong great idea and then decides to shit all over it but more and more it’s looking like SoD is absolutely finished already
@@koffin522 mock me if you will, I’m right. They changed the gold sinks and buffed leveling time. If I don’t speak up, and no one else does, nothing gets changed
Don't play on a PVP server. I left the first server I joined because PVP servers just suck if you aren't that good at PVP or play a class or spec that's for PVE.
Would love to be ablke to raid but with it being a 10 man raid and the armor being so god damn high nobody wants to take melee into the raid... see you guys on P3 i guess
We have been clearing it for 2 resets now with 4-5 melee per group (just how our guild is atm), so it is very much doable atleast! Though I have seen pugs offering to buy their spot as rogue/warrior/ret :(
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0:20: Gold - need mount, new crafting, enchants, summons (hunters, mages, proffessions/farming alt/questing)
3:00: Azeroth Commerce Reputation to revered (low prio for now but will change as blizzard add new rewards)
4:16: Sleeping Bag quest
5:00: New profession crafted items quest
6:13: PVP (ashenvale, stv, AB new rep)
8:39: Key quests including Nifty Stopwatch, Skull of Impending Doom. Pre-questing (Sunken Temple, Mara).
10:13: Gnomeregan
11:19: Runes (get all as they may become relevant) + QoL runes.
12:10: Professions including secondary in case they become relevant
Hit Level 40 -> Check if you are melee or ranged dps -> if melee, then go to Character Selection and pick ranged -> Repeat leveling and maybe you find a Raidspot
Sad but true for most people unless your tank or got a guild.
Or get a guild in an mmo, or be a valuable Player or be a good melee ( as melees are perfectly viable as casters where perfectly viable in a melee dominated p1)
This is dumb because 60+ the melee classes all slap hardest.
The main thing you gotta do is find a guild filled with decent people.
Quite the long quest 😂😂😂
filled with healers that didn't reroll to the fotm caster spec* (fixed that for you)
It’s so weird, I’ve been trying to recruit to my guild for days and no one bites… I have 97 best perf avg for paraes so it’s not because I’m “bad”.. I just think everyone is joining mega guilds because then they do not have to raid at specific times
@@josephhammond8008 only 97 ? Pathetic 😂
This has been the secret to enjoying classic the whole time
made 700g selling the badlands dragon kills as hunter in 2 days, unfortunately then it slowed down. i probably helped 150 people get their chest xD
Oh man perfect timing WillE, I hit level 40 last night 😁
What server?
@@KylenLove-t1g Shadowstrike OCE PVP server
Grats!
who cares
@@KylenLove-t1g Shadowstrike
Feel like at this point I'll just try to farm blood coins to get a mount and save the gold.
Same here. I want that Saber mount on my undead priest
Lot are doing that actually, and it’s great because the event is alive af
I prefer to get exalted with AB cuz I have a feeling a buff is coming to the gear.
They need to add more blood coin rewards. I got the dagger in one event and now there’s no reason to do it aside from ab rep
You don't want the mounts?
@@myphanno ... why would I
STV leveling basically goes to lvl 50, wouldn't be surprised if they add more blood moon vendor items at lvl 50, I'm guessing the blood moon thing will be the only pvp event next phase still. And hopefully they focus on adding actual new content.
@@ZadenWoW the same question works in the other direction. Why wouldn’t you? If you genuinely enjoy doing the event( I know it rare but some people do) there is no reason not to farm the mount. If you are doing it just to get gear I understand but there isn’t resilience gear in classic so there is only so much they can so
AB rep is super important for some classes as the honored and revered rewards are BIS equipment. Would def say its plenty worth it for that alone.
I already stopped because people are parsing and looking for BiS for groups. Done with WoW for now, but still love your content!
I mean this just isn't true 😂. People want classes that make sense that's it.
find a guild
BIS groups? People just want to do the raid in a timely manner. If you aren’t getting into runs due to your spec change or find a community that will accept you. If not then wow just isn’t the game for you lol
Yikes lol. Why not play for PVP? PVE in classic is the most braindead easy boring thing you could do anyways. Imagine playing the game to Stand still, press 3 buttons, and move out of the fire here and there 😂
Put in the time and actually watch a guide
All of you people whining about pugs and people on general chat asking for bis classes. Just join a guild and play the game as it was intended. I play warrior and i already done gnomer many timea with my guild no problem.
Cringe dummy
You are acting like all a player has to do is "LF guild for raiding" and suddenly players are in a raiding guild and able to raid. I have things to do during the week and on weekends and if their raid schedule doesn't work with my work and responsibilities I can't raid with them.
@@robertp457 yeah this is what they have to do or to get rejected by pugs.
We all have things to do. The raid resets every 3 days and most guilds have like 3-4 raid teams. Literally there is no excuse if you don't have time to raid for like 1.30 hour once a week then do you really have time for WoW at all?
I played phase 1 a lot, but never did the raid. I got 7x lvl 25 alts.
I got demotivated by the chats in game asking for X and Y requirements & I've just sort of asked myself after phase 1 if I should bother again.
It's seasonal, so my progress will get wiped eventually. And I've realized that I don't really care for raids or gearing at the level cap.
I have 0 friends playing (and none ever did play), I'm sure I'd do raids if I had others wanting me to join along.
But for now what I actually enjoy is the leveling. Though I will say, seeing the crap you have to do for some of these new runes (and even the old ones) are making me not want to play.
I hated that Metamorphosis was locked behind a raid at first, and that you couldn't realistically get it before the level cap. This seems to be the case for so many of the cool new runes I have seen. You literally need to either be a streamer & get carried to get the runes unless you're at the level cap yourself. I wanted the runes WHILE leveling & not at the level cap.
I might sound super negative, lazy or whatever here; but if I had the choice to either
1. Have the runes soloable at level 25 so I could use them to level to the next cap (40)
2. Keep it like it is now
Then I'd pick option 1. It'd be a lot more fun for me. I'd be leveling while finding the runes and then being able to use them right away.
For example; Mind spike for priest seems to require level 30 at the first step, but then at the end you need to kill some busted lvl 40 elite? Why??
I know you can group for it, I just don't have the motivation to bother. Why lock it behind a 40 elite to begin with?
I understand that it might be really fun for some people who have friends playing, but I don't.
Whenever I voice my opinions on this, I always get hate or rude replies. Like "Why play an mmo if you don't like to group for stuff".
I don't know what to say other than that I kind of just prefer Singleplayer but with other real people running around the world. If everything in WoW could be soloed (but maybe less rewards or something to incentivize grouping) then that'd make a better game for me personally.
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy doing dungeons sometimes while leveling and at cap to gear up. What I don't enjoy is the time and effort it takes to get a group going and to prepare for a raid.
& Yes I actually kind of enjoyed the LFG tool in WOTLK, because it made grouping easier and there was less shit like "reserved" or people only looking for X dps/healer/tank classes.
Maybe I am the only one thinking this way. And maybe it's just because I never really had a friend group playing WoW.
But for now, I enjoy watching others play more than I enjoy playing it myself.
@@wajsp I dont think so but I am not sure. This is sort of SoD beta before the polished full release, at least that is my impression.
i don't think mmos are for you my dude.
My choice was to quit this phase is a pass for me and my friends
Why? It barely changed from phase 1. Unless we are talking about the economy and such. But that doesn’t matter because you can literally do the raid 0 consumables 0 profession items
The point that it barely changed is the problem.
I bet you use gdkps
The upgrades from raids are not that good pvp is a mess the world pvp event is back to being a laggy unplayable POS it’s very alt unfriendly with rep grinds etc… the raid is fun but the class balancing is not it
same here.
Phase 2 is kinda eh. Gnomer was fun first run through, but I am just bored to tears on newer lockouts. Not much to do this round.
Go outside.
I myself am doing an experiment on how insanely good avoidance you can get on a paladin tank at lvl 40 with full Defense gear and the new defensive runes.
Trying to make a gold farming build where you don't need to look at the screen, just press keybinds 1 and 2 once every 10 seconds.
the sleeping bag food also gets you class resource. on my warrior it gave me instant 40 rage
Phase 2 doesnt quite have that magic that Phase 1 did...
Grinding the hell out of SM gets old quickly. Glad theyre adding some exp boosts atleast.
Honestly they should include PVP tabards and give us specific rep for completeing events and downing raid bosses.
They should also beef up dungeon loot moreso for RFD, Ulduman and SM. Some interesting questlines too for trinkets and jewelry?
You don’t need to grind SM? That’s your choice. If you have the mindset you need to be 40 asap, classic might not be for you.
Just add dungeon finder
Sounds like you would like retail a lot more than classic lol.
@@Shannendetro Is there better loot from questing?
@@robertp457 xp. Farming duns non stop for xp is the opposite of what an rpg is. Its about the journey, not the endpoint. Doing duns for loot is great, doing them 20+ times for xp is not.
I accidentally doubbleclicked the blacksmith blueprints in gnomeregan and wasted 50 gold instead of 25 because there was no popup window that asked me if I am sure to obtain this item... yep. This game NEEDS some QoL
I definitely have played less then phase 1
Then phase 1 what? Left us on a cliffhanger.
Of course me too but Phase 1 was around for 10 weeks Phase 2 has not been out for long lol I am sure I will get there after 8 more weeks.
@@Drtydeeds nice one
I think that's because this is sort of an awkward "mid-game" phase, it doesn't have as much wonder and mystery that Phase 1 did and also lacks the epic, end game scale that the later two will have. I actually know people who do want to play SoD, but are waiting until Phase 4 comes out so they can play "the full game" in their words.
Then phase 1? No, you’re going backwards. After phase 2 is phase 3.
Gotta say, had more fun at 25 than 40
There was nothing to do at 25!
@@Meathole7At's the idea. No mount to grind for, no 10+ level bis quests to do, just funking around easily gettin rewards. Its about the same feeling every new MMO has.
@@Meathole7so same then now!
@@Meathole7 run around in the open world doing pvp. Is there anything else a player could want to do?
@@Meathole7there is also nothing to do at 40!
3:38 Rockscale Cod is litterally a vendor item! There are multiple vendors that sell it, so whatever you do, do NOT buy it from AH!
well, it can happen that on Living Flame EU you find the Cod even under the vendor price so it's actually more cheap to buy it from ah sometimes
You hit level 40. Now what? If you're a ranged hunter then it's time to go try HellDivers2 and come back at phase 3.
So far I would give Phase2 a solid 8/10.
What did you give phase 1?
I would say 6.5/10, it was a good start for something new and experimantal, but i cant really described why P2 looks more fleshed out (better talents, gear opt, raid, PVP event, sleeping bag ect) I think the Dev team is learning really fast and adapting well, looking foward to P3.@@myphan
Im still having fun but obv theres less people playing and the playerbase is souring on it more and more. This comment section, all comment sections, support this.
Confirmation bias. Psychologically people are nore likely to say nothing when they are content and only speak up if they are dissatisfied. Meaning that most people who are online leaving comments are the ones who aren’t happy. The rest are busy playing still. I have friends who haven’t hit 40 yet. Ofc all the people who make it their entire being for two weeks are done by now. There is no satisting those kind of players anyway.
People have become total slaves to social media and peer pressure. It seems noone can think straight anymore. It's a game FFS and people are treating it like a job.
Back then 'gaming' was a free time niche for basement nerds. Now it's a social phenomenon with 'rules' and media coverage. It has become more of a fashion thing than a fun recreational occupation. You know.. 'you're in the football team 'cause all the cool people are playing football' - kind of thing..
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The books drop from any boss from SM on, I got both of mine in RFD. SMGY is just massively inflated since that's where everyone farmed.
Willie, Hiru, Crendor, Jampanos, and Verigan are veritable nostalgia gods 🙏
yeah well im already barely raid logging, it feels extremely stale atm or im simply burned out? idk ,im waiting for war within at this point or maybe I will try cata classic
Been feeling the same, I don't have the same motivation for phase 2.
I’m the same and was asking myself the same question, am I burnt out? Did I play phase 1 too much? I think so….. but the problem for me is how unbalanced PVP is, and the fact some classes can’t even get into gnomer groups
Lmao war within or cata classic. Maybe Just self delete already
Lmao imagin commenting that people should "self delete" cuz they like different versions of a game. Begone incel!@@koenwijnen8278
Welcome back to Hardcore! Self Found is AWESOME
hit 40, played for a few days and quit. World pvp is broken by 1 shot classes and no point in doing raids when classes in green could kill me without even trying. Going back to Wrath Classic til Cataclysm comes out.
I prefer the Irani market for my gold
Now back to Classic Era.
Having fun playing Warlock in SoD, only thing I really dislike is the gold sinks.. Id normally even be ok with the mount being 100g, but with the new recipes costing as much as they do + mat costs it seems a bit excessive, especially on a seasonal server with no confirmed end plan. Feels a tad bad to have to spend majority of time farming gold instead of having the accessibility to play more classes. In regular wow Im fine with grinding and farming, but I think we should really took a look at adjusting these on a seasonal realm that could be shut down sub 1 year
Without thw gold sinks people would be hoarding massive amounta of gold. A single character who dungeon farmed to 40 have around 500 in raw gold from quest rewards.
Got 160g leveling from 25-40 then another 150+ doing quests at max level. Still 2 months left of this phase and already up 300g just from leveling one character. Seems easy enough?
@@zjeee yes players are overreacting so much
at revered mount was 66g
New to the content, how is it possible to do the STV content without having to pvp?
my end game content is arathi basin at lvl 40:)
As a shaman, I hate that Blacksmith did not get a Mail epic to craft....
Blacksmith is normally for warrior/paladin plate armors. Or weapons. Leatherworking makes mail and leather armor for shaman/hunter/druid/rogue classes normally.
@@Tinyblaze_YT bis mail gear from AQ is from blasmithing
@@Tigly031yeah there are a few select items for sure, I just meant after 40 it is meant primarily for plate wearers when it comes to armor. Elemental and tribal leatherworking normally make the shaman/hunter/druid style mail and leather pieces.
what are the new ways to get exp you mention they introduced?
Unless you really cannot be bothered to spend any time planning doing quests for gold will be significantly worse than farming it through other means. And this is putting aside their value for leveling which is not important unless you hate dungeon grinding.
I would love to see exalted Azeroth give us a class mount
10 silver in one event.... I can't even imagine that. Us rogues have a tough time in STV. I'm happy with 400.
What is good in having trash with higher hp? Boring as hell, and raid Gnomer takes too long
You can still get 1k xp per week from Ash btw.
He did say this in the video…
@@Kivrus I mean after revered
I got a toon to lvl 15 and life happened....am I too late?????
No
Never too late, sod is super chill and fun
toon? you're too cringe
For what? You do you. Play at your own pace 😉
Look at all those "Oh noes!?! I have nothing to do now!!??" - morons.
@@Impuraclehow old are you
Bosses in RFD also drop the books. Atleast hunters did for me
Totally rad, good times!!
did they finally introduce dual talents?
or whats the respecc cost atm? the fact i'd have to respecc back and forth for every raid is the biggest turn down for me still
It’s maxed at 1g
Dude right? I don’t wanna respec every 3 days, they need to get gold sinks out of their head because 1000g is likely what they want to charge for it. Even if it was 100g, that’s still outrageous. I would rather this still be casual friendly all the way to 60 and beyond. I can’t even lasher farm yet, and not every class will be able to do that anyway. Horrific to think they wanna waste our time instead of giving us engaging gameplay
supply crates can be sold for their old turn in price
Phase 1 was awesome. Idk if I'm burned out or what. But I up and decided to quit SOD cold turkey. I love/hate SOD in a way, like i love the idea of moving in a classic plus direction. But the way they do it is just adding overpowered spells that really make pvp pure cancer. I've played nothing but classic since August of 2019 and lights hope/elysium before that but I'm feeling like trying out retail again, and I had the realization that SOD is basically lukewarm retail. But beyond that I do think Blizzard has been learning from classic, and I believe that retail will be moving more towards classic styled design elements (in certain ways) but keeping the retail gameplay which the bulk of the SOD playerbase clearly loves.
I hope they do use SOD as a beta for classic plus. But I hope they realized they need a restructuring too. They should use the TBC pre-patch as the base for a real, permanent, classic+ server. Level 60 cap, TBC talents (maybe tidy up the trees to fit level 60 cap), TBC abilities, spells and class tunings. And yes Blood elves and draenei opening up paladins and shamans to both factions. That is what I desire.
Until then I think I will be trying out retail again as I have never stopped following the story (minus the shadowlands bullshit) and am intrigued how the Saga will play out.
I did the same, however personally hoping they don’t bring Draenei and blood elves, if they do bring new races I’d like them to go in a different direction, and I’d greatly prefer if they just gave us dwarf shaman and Tauren (or even undead) paladins for true classic+
@hungout3905 I could skip on blood elves dreanei for other races too. I would like to see ogres for the horde and either high elves or furlongs for alliance
I hate Retail gameplay and I love Season of Discovery because it is Retail DESIGN which maintains the Classic gameplay - something the Retail version of the game will never achieve again because it is made to be fast paced with lots of chores to do, to give the younger generations a sense of purpose because they get more easily bored.
@@Zinarothwithout advertising retail or give a Shit anyway. But please explain to me a) when was the last time you played retail and b) what the hell in Classic sod or not sod is NO chore? Ashenvale, STV, raid Log, Farm gold, make 8 alts. No chore? So many stupid clueless ppl in this Game lying to themselves that they enjoy the hamsterwheel hahaha
@@wastolero If you were really interested in my point of view you wouldn't have finished off by inferring that I am a stupid clueless person. You might have gained insightful perspective and knowledge on a phenomenon you seemingly don't understand, now instead you will only get me telling you to go spew your vile somewhere else.
any other dps speced tanks having trouble holding agro?
Crazy to see a vid like this come out when everyone it seems is already raid logging, lvling alts or quitting for Helldivers
Many people are still leveling their mains
ppl who have 3 wifes and 5 kids already got 40 lvl @@egemenozan5641
@@egemenozan5641 big true, Im still leveling all 9 of my mains.
One doesn't quit coop shooters much like one doesnt quit wow. They use different simulations for the same basic loop. The games that try to do both of these usually suck.
I'm barely lvl 30 lol
Fall in love with a class have it get then reroll ez
Now u sit in ironforge looking at the spamming world chat and try to get in a raid with min maxers and just dogshiez
Don't join those groups ??? Tons of pubs going every minute
feel free to join a guild. or keep complaining on yt, whatever makes you happy
@@mandurrudnam7632 nah u need to wake the f up. Season of dissapointment is just a half effort project. U should all play on Turtle wow. Blizzard has taken almost every idea from them. Its the real classic +. Not this stupid shie
@@mandurrudnam7632 Are good guilds with holes in their roster falling from the sky or something?
@@robertp457I mean my guild used to average 30 min bfd clears with 6 grps a lock out and we currently are running 3 raids per lockout in gnomer with a little over an hour a run good guilds are out there just usually aren't spam recruiting in chat
you hit Lv 40, grab whatever BS runes they farted into the game, and complete Gnomer once then log out until Season of WoWhead Part 3 drops. At that point its just Classic Era all over again.
its really fun nice video!
Rockscale cod can just be bought from a vendor. Shouldn't be buying off the AH
I’m only lvl 34 finding it quite hard to even logg in and get to 40
I could see professions capped at 275 for the next phase
I play rogue i only do pvp ab stv event because no one wants a rogue in gnomeregan thats so sad
Make your own group and stop making excuse’s. It doesn’t take much effort and being lazy and moaning isn’t a solution.
@@zepho100I couldn’t agree more, people always “LFG” never “LFM” because majority are too lazy to create a group, or create a discord link and let alone lead a raid.
Join a guild like you're supposed to, the Rouge in my runs does great.
@@WaffleHouse247 exactly and then moan about it 😂
Because hunters are sick of you and warriors stealing all their loot in BFD 😂
Starting to feel more like Retail minus, rather than Classic plus
I know I am late, but it's actually not true, that the Rep farming is more time intensive than Warsong. Absolutly not. Your average Rep was 500, killing 1 Boss and End the event. You get another 200 for a win, sometimes u lose, so 500. You CAN make up to 1000 if u would kill all bosses and win, but it's not the average. However, you only need 300 coins each events to get the same average as before and alot of times you get even more than this. (At least for me and I am just a Meele) and this Rep even works after Reveled, so... No, it was not faster. You just can't AFK it anymore.
idk how ppl say you should be able to get 10 silver per stv event. I managed close to that 1 out of like 20 events.
skill issue
@@Impuracle Toxic people hurt the game more than Blizzard.
happy farming bro😅
For mount I'd say it's best to use the 2 months or so in which we are stuck in phase two to grind the STV mounts. That way you don't run out of content too fast and also safe 90g
Go to stv, realize the pvp event is unplayable then begin the raid logging. This phase fucking blows.
cant even make it to 40 as ally. Ive been trying to get my tusks for my ww axe and it's just so infuriating it makes me want to quit. The horde have also taken control of all boats on lone wolf. The stv event is complete aids.
Thats why you dont play on a pvp server :p you cant even enjoy a lot of parts of the world because its dominated by the opposite faction. Last time I gave pvp a shot was for Season of Mastery and I quit there after it was impossible to get into badlands to finish my warlock quest as alliance. I only play pvp on private servers, because the population isnt as crazy and you get genuine, tense and fair 1v1 fights just walking through the world
Unsubed week 2. Was about to turn back to raidloging.
From my experience, unfortunately, the STV PVP event is unplayable due to the forced layering on groups. Twice in a row we've formed a group of 5 which is immediately layered once the event starts, and we get farmed by other groups.
According to Reddit the gameplay loop at 40 is
1 Log in
2 buy gold
3 ?????
4 log off because doing any activity promotes gold buying and gold buying ruins everything
Step number 1 make a melee hunter
balance is way off the scale something blizz needs to fix
I'm not playing SoD for the exact reasons I'm seeing here.
Blizzard is actually improving the game, but players manage to make it a stressful 'meta' ridden experience, full of ridiculous gatekeepking and hordes of brainless lemmings, blindly following guides, todo lists and whatever their favorite content creators tell them.
I would be out if I wasn't not in in the first place.
Solo games or strictly multi with friends it is for the time being.
If you're having fun, though, please by all means continue to. You do you!
Nothing. Do quests for gold and wait for 50. . . then rinse repeat till 60. . .
I stopped playing and wait on next phase, nothing is worth chasing in phase 2, and Gnomer is boring. They keep nerfing every spec its not fun
I was palying mage in phase 1 and warlock man , it was amazing beacuse it took little time with mixed lvling as dungeons and little bit of questing . I done around 30 Bfd raids . It was pretty much fun . Then phase 2 come and man mage got nerfed afli warlock still suck big fat D . Everyone were rushing dungeons i couldnt even keep up beacuse i have f job and i couldnt spend all day playing so i just given up on it and even tho i tried to old school aoe with blizz and frost spec the mobs have so much HP the it is doable but in hyperspawn one mob spawn and it f my aoe completly . Not fun . Yes i know aoe face tanking isnt fair ok i get it . But man if my selling point is aoe dont f nerf it to the ground atleast with hp buffs......
Lol ZF 20man confirmed?
I havent played any SoD. Is it worth to start now? Any specific server thats better for EU? Healer / Tank needed most as usual?
I just started on crusader strike server, it's fun don't worry about rushing
Healers actually. Plenty of warlocks and paladins and shaman tanks already.
It’s really fun with the new runes! If you wanna start THEYRE gonna have a 100% buff soon so you can level up a litte faster. 1-25 lvls tho I think
I just started sod for the first time 4 days ago with my buddies. It's super fun with the runes and skill changes
So that's my problem. I'm not going to be hitting level 40 anytime soon. The level barrier is too strong. Too difficult to level. Not fun
man that trash in BFD was trash
Im not gonna worry about doing all the BS for gear thats gonna be useless in the next phase. Too much BS for just a recipe.
PVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPVPV MIND CONTROL OFF LUMBERMILL
Farm student fodder and farm sunken temple quests… Why would you do this right away at level 40 when we have 3 months lol
if they nerf the student fodder blizz will prob c a lot of ppl getting pissed... how many ppl rushed to 40 and didnt know about the bag quest line that will have all 8 of them that will just become useless or near to it
It won’t work past lvl 40 that’s for sure. They’ll be another version of it and that makes sense.
Oh man yes BLizzard must cater to the people that reached level 40 in one sitting.
this thing of always doing meta gaming is destroying games like this, now people are pushing hard, and then complaining that they have nothing left to do X
Let's goooooo! Love you WillE!
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time to buy gold
I don't have time to farm gold. Just add the darn coin from rmt in.
Sod is not an improvement to classic it's actually exactly the opposite.
The problem is not the game
Boring not really original in amyway . people are worried about gear score and all sorts of retail raiding requirements. Noone plays for fun anymore its all serious and shit. Bunch of WoW junkies with their cliches.
Join a guild and create your own fun and stop pugging just because it’s what’s modt convenient for you. As long as your own personal progression is what is most important to you, you will never be happy. This goes for both ingame and in real life.
It's easier to complain than do the bare minimum and join a guild@@Zinaroth
That's what you get when people suddenly feel a sense of importance in their life. Sucks if it hapoens in a game, though. Well.. actually always sucks. People depend too much on what others think. Too many spineless lemmings. I guess nowadays it's called 'followers'. They're being bred.
Hit 40 on my second toon walked into gnome ten min later killed last boss a few hours later 😅
I’m sitting on 4 level 40s and I feel like I should just farm gold for next phase. Content is really lacking
Seriously ? I’d say I play quite often and I’ve just got 1 character to 40 and got my runes lol I’m not even close to raiding yet
The STV event is just a mage cleave fest, poorly thought out.
Now what? now i raid log and prepare for cata :)
go tanaris beach and see +200 bot when game is 1 layer in morning you can see all of them take video plz maybe blizzard end this mony way!!
Idk man these spriest in PvP really boiling my blood. To the point that it’s so unbalanced it’s not even remotely fun.
The more time goes on, the more obvious it becomes that making it so that the content rewards are unobtainable unless you sink time into it without the grind being fun and entertaining and something I would never want to do unless a reward was at the end is a bad game mechanic. We don’t need gameplay that isn’t fun. It’s not fun to grind BGs until exalted. Our BiS bracers shouldn’t be locked behind something we would hate doing. Why are they trying to make the game less fun? This is why new players don’t start playing, and it’s why more casual long term fans quit. The only ones left are the sweaty ones who don’t have any jobs or purpose in life, and when the casuals disappear and they can’t show off their rewards by being afk in a major city, they quit as well. MAKE THE GRIND ACTUALLY FUN. It’s not fun having to figure out how to come up with 175-300g to craft a helmet that we will replace in 10 levels. They say they wanna discourage gold buyers but then hit us with the garbage like that. Dumb af man, let’s also nerf things for no reason like SoM for pally and not buff a damned thing that needs it. I don’t know why blizzard starts with such a strong great idea and then decides to shit all over it but more and more it’s looking like SoD is absolutely finished already
Wahhh wahhh wahhh
@@koffin522 mock me if you will, I’m right. They changed the gold sinks and buffed leveling time. If I don’t speak up, and no one else does, nothing gets changed
You hit lvl 40! Now you can raid log. Pls like and subscribe
low energy
How do i even get to 40? I’m 33 and all leveling areas are pvp ganking warzones. It’s making me want to quit and never play again.
Jump to a PVE server, so you don't have to quit.
Scarlet monastery dungon spam , its boring , but its also faster
bye
Not being a lemming and playing on a PvE server helps.
You know, the ones spreading all this 'you gotta play on PvP!' BS are probably the gankers..
Don't play on a PVP server. I left the first server I joined because PVP servers just suck if you aren't that good at PVP or play a class or spec that's for PVE.
Would love to be ablke to raid but with it being a 10 man raid and the armor being so god damn high nobody wants to take melee into the raid... see you guys on P3 i guess
its getting nerfed tuesday
@@tyhyhh melees were stiill excluded since the whole raid favors rangeds.
We have been clearing it for 2 resets now with 4-5 melee per group (just how our guild is atm), so it is very much doable atleast!
Though I have seen pugs offering to buy their spot as rogue/warrior/ret :(
Loser bet you were loving last phase where it was pure spell resist
STV is a god dam joke the rest is fun
Now what? Now let’s play retail, where are 10 more mechanics on each boss and you really have to move, think and have much more fun :D
Now what? stop playing til level 60.
50 is the next phase