Bruce Lee vs Gene Lebell - Why Lebell Trained Bruce Lee
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2022
- How Bruce Lee really met Judo Gene Lebell - In "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" how Bruce's first day on the set of "The Green Hornet," Bruce kicks down the door, destroys the set, and beats up the bad guys? It's like,"I'm Bruce Lee, and I'm here! Look at how awesome and amazing I am!"
Well, you have that depiction of Bruce contrasted with another totally fictional depiction of Bruce Lee in Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" where Bruce Lee is spouting off nonsense about making Muhammad Ali a cripple before he gets slammed into a car door by stuntman Cliff Booth.
On the Joe Rogan podcast, Quentin Tarantino tried to say that fight was based on some true stories from the set of The Green Hornet where Judo Gene Lebell was called in to teach Bruce a lesson because he was disrespectful to the American stuntmen, and he was always tagging them, or hitting them on purpose to make the fight scenes look real, just like was Steven Seagal does.
The problem with all of this is that Quentin Tarantino gives the polar opposite depiction of Bruce Lee on the set of "The Green Hornet" that is given in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story," where it's like "oh look how AMAZING Bruce Lee is, everyone is in disbelief of how awesome he is!"
Well, the truth falls in between both of these accounts, and just like I've done in the previous two videos on Quentin Tarantino's comments about Bruce Lee, we're going to find out ONCE AGAIN that Quentin Tarantino is completely wrong and should just stop speaking on Bruce Lee entirely.
So this story was posted in a Facebook group for Fight Choreography by Lane Leavitt, a stuntment who has been working on TV and movies for the last 40 years.
Lane shared how Bennie Dobbins basically saved Bruce Lee's career by introducing him to Jude Gene Lebell.
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Knowing that Bruce wasn't a trained stage fighter in the slightest prior to starting in Hollywood is a huge eye opener. Fake fighting is an art in and of itself that takes time and practice.
Bruce was continuously learning from other people and Gene helped him a lot. People who have issues with Bruce Lee forget that this was the infancy of American martial arts training and films. You have to start somewhere and people like Bruce, Chuck and Joe Lewis were true pioneers. they led the way to what martial arts are today. Great video . Thanks.
He learned but he invented things in his better ways like he said A teacher is never a giver of truth; he is a guide, a pointer to the truth that each student must find for himself.”
Except for the fact that Chuck Norris went to Bruce Lee for advice, not the other way around ass clown. Norris was a pioneer of nothing, he engaged in non contact Karate matches and Bruce Lee thought of him as a phony, paper champion. You don't know shit about Bruce Lee and you should not spread rumors like that.
@@ehsure3394 Except for the fact that he learned NOTHING from non contact point guys. That's why they went to him for instruction and not the other way around. You have a lot to learn about Bruce Lee ace.
@@superstrangevideo do you even know what your saying? Now go back and do your research!
No bruce lee no UFC
I remember an interview with Jim Kelly before he passed when he's talking about just how amazing Bruce was, you could see the sincerity and seriousness he had when he spoke of Bruce. How lucky all those guys were to have trained with Bruce, I can't imagine. And it's not because he passed away, if I had a chance to work out with Arnold, or light spar with Floyd Mayweather I'd loose my mind. But Bruce was beyond special and ahead of his time, i think Tarantino is an amazing director and I'm a huge fan, but this just wasn't cool no matter how you slice it.
In your opinion.
Yeah. To me, Quentin Tarantino was just telling fairy tales when he had the NERVE to speak about Bruce Lee. I do NOT know where he got his, "information" ( I hate to imagine! ), but in my view.... Tarantino was simply portraying science fiction. OH .. YEAH! I found out that Bruce's daughter, Shannon, contacted Quentin Tarantino and had a real. " talk " with him!
@@debraweaver6308 well Shannon wasn't born or to young there on the set during the film making, so she doesn't really know what happened either.
@@danielj233 Shannon's mother, Linda ( Bruce's wife ) told her
@@debraweaver6308 well did she tell shannon that Bruce was cheating with Betty Ting Pei, no because that was covered up by Raymond Chow and Linda Lee. She can't be a trusted source.
Judo Gene LeBell also stated that of all the people he has fought, and he fought a few heavy hitters, that Bruce hit him the hardest.
You sure about that?
I heard from Joe Lewis's mouth that Bruce hit like a heavyweight.
@@eddieash6189 are you sure, go look it up
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All the naysayers are all UFC ground and pound buffs.
Bruce Lee fought street fights in Hong Kong and that comes from reliable sources. Film producer that wanted to make more movies would not kill the golden goose.
It was a reaction to western BS pain killers.
Lyrica has injured many even these days.
Along with my older brother Ron I lived in the LA area in the late 60s and early 70s. My brother worked for a private Ambulance Service in downtown LA and one of his co-workers was a man named Larry Hartsell. If you don't know the name, you can look him up. My brother Ron found out that Larry taught at Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate on Santa Monica Boulevard. Larry hartsell and my brother eventually became roommates and that's when Ron found out that Larry had taken some private lessons from Bruce. I am pretty sure that Larry was involved in some tournament fights? I think he was about 6 ft 1 and 190 lb? He told my brother that in a full sparring session oh, that he could not lay a glove on Bruce. So much for those who say that Bruce was a paper tiger!
Wow, I'm thinking your brother was rooming with Larry before he became one of the "kempo defectors" who left Ed for Bruce. You probably know he was the grappling spokesman of JKD and was encouraged to explore that range by Bruce, and, yeah, big as he was Bruce could knock him around sparring; but according to one of Larry's students, Bruce refused to roll with him on the mat, lol. And while I haven't heard of him entering any tournaments (he certainly may have), he apparently entered the first "tough man" contest in the U.S. but lost by disqualification when he kicked his downed opponent-something he couldn't help because his sifu encouraged such tactics, lol.
@@randalwung8715 thanks for the information. You probably know more about Larry than I did because I never met him and it's only through my brother but I learned about his contact with Bruce.
Those sparring sessions back in the day were NEVER full contact. It was more of a game of tag. And Lee was good at tag. But Lee never sparred full contact, nor was he a street fighter
@@johnbulcaster7464 you really don't know your history. BL was a part of several streetgangs in Hong Kong. Joe Lewis was actually sparring with Bruce back in the day and I don't think those were just tagging type matches as you put it. I think Danny inosanto and Jim Kelly would disagree with you.
@@rexjamerson9316 Bruce Lee grew up in a wealthy home his father was a famous opera singer. He and his sister were brought to and from school by Chauffeured limousine. There were no street fights/ These are things you heard through the miles of Lee mythology that has been spread. Of course if you have proof i remain open minded....Proof not hearsay. Thanks
As a fan of Bruce and the main reason I've trained in martial arts for 20+ years I fully appreciated your great breakdown of Bruce Lee and how Tarantino took liberties embellishing his take on Bruce's experience in film as well his relationships with stuntmen . Long live the legend of the Dragon 🙏🏼
Tarantino " taking liberties and embellishing "?????????! I had said in one of my earlier replies that as far as knowing ANYTHING about Bruce Lee..... Tarantino was just simply telling, " fairy tales "!!!!! Thank you
Q Tarantino was being an arrogant baboon making things up to fit his narrative.
@@debraweaver6308 Tarantino straight up made crap up. Isn't it funny how LeBell, Lewis, Moore all tell their negative stories after Bruce Lee is gone so many years later, but praised him at first? Even working with him and learning from him.
Tarantino has this thing against Asian Americans and playing the fanboy card and having complete hatred for the great Lee who bridged cultures. Once Upon a Time Bruce Lre portrayal was sad, because it illustrated his fanboyism and had a foundation of complete lies. Bruce never claimed he would cripple Ali in any interview and Tarantino has purposely distorted the truth.
How come y’all don’t defend Bruce Lee then against these haters??
When listening to Tintin Quarantino sounding off, it is also worth bearing in mind that he was only 10 years of age when Bruce Lee died so it's highly unlikely that he has any direct knowledge of what he is talking about.
Bruce Lee changed how to make action movies in HK too. Just look at his best film Way of the Dragon, he had total control of that film and it shows better camera angles, use of powder to show power from kicks, slow motion and wide shots. He learned that in Hollywood too. Benny Dobbins and Gene LeBell should always be praised for everything they have brought to movies. As for Once apon a time in Hollywood....I enjoyed every bit but the Bruce Lee part for reasons like the hair and glasses were wrong for that time etc and if that WAS a fight, Bruce NEVER fought like that. Just check out Dan Inosanto in The Way of the Warrior where he explains it best. Respect always
Yeah, Bruce was very defensive and kept distance to his apponents, reading their every move and faking them out.
Yepp
@@CJTranceAddiction Yes. The word that was used was, " telegraphing "
Excellent work and great insight. I worked as an actor/stuntman in the 90's and just prior to a fight scene with David Carradine, (Kung Fu - The Legend Continues), i was pulled aside and told i had my 'backup' stuntman on standby in case i was uncomfortable working with David, because he could sometimes 'hurt people' when filming after lunch (i think implying he has a few drinks and thereby not the same control), but it was all good and it was a blast to work with him.
I'd also heard a few stories about Segal, but i had only ever heard good stories about Bruce Lee and never heard anything about him being an asshole like Segal, of which there were many.
I was really pissed at Tarantino and his BS portrayal of Bruce in his film, lost alot of respect i had for him, because it was obvious it was petty jealousy...(I also saw your video on Tarantino's dislike of Bruce and thought it was spot on). I'm really glad you made this and i hope more people watch and are inspired to learn the Truth about Bruce and his impact on the film industry and martial arts in general.
Wow - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Tarantino has made some good movie but he’s obviously got some issues. Being so unfuckable it sort of makes sense he hates Bruce Lee.
I met Gene Lebell. In my youth. At my brothers tournament in Las Vegas. He allowed me to get a free lesson. It humbled me, encouraged me, and enhanced my pursuit in my walk of life. I still have the shirt given to me. Its my favorite shirt. It's almost 30 years old.
Great video. Gene Lebell was one of a kind. He was gracious enough to allow us to interview him for the old FCF podcast. He was in his 80s then and he sent us a snap of him jumping a motorcycle the week before. Amazing gentleman and I will remember that interview all my life.
Thanks for sharing 👍
R.I.P. Gene Lebell, take your place with the great warriors.
Tarantino knows about as much about Bruce Lee as he does about Superman (see: Kill Bill).
Exactly what I thought. Once upon a time in Hollywood was a decent movie.. but he made Bruce look like a show off idiot.
Tarantino makes some great movies. But he can really be an arrogant cheap shot wanker.. esp when Bruce is not around to defend himself. Some are just too petty to humble themselves in front of true greatness sometimes I think.
Seeing as how he's been in the movie industry for many many years, he probably has access to way more information than any of you wouldn't you say?
@@Rufio1975 Yes. The same can be said about this channel.
@@williamsmith8790
Well Im speaking about the layman commentors on here that have no association with the industry and talk as if they know something he doesn't which they don't. Its comical.
@@Rufio1975 Them, as well.
That was a damn good history lesson. You just cut through a lot of B. S. in my humble opinion. Great video.
Thanks for watching 👍
When I asked Gene about Bruce, he said "That was one of the best friends I ever had. I really miss that guy". I only met Gene a couple of times but I sure do miss hm.
People who have never met Bruce Lee miss him a lot. Just imagine how much Bruce's close friends miss him.
What a legend Gene Lebell was. Wish mma and the UFC was around when he was in his prime. I’d bet he woulda been a monster with modern day technique and training, but then again, if it wasn’t for Gene we wouldn’t have the modern training and knowledge we have!
Gene Lebelle ain't NO joke...he still a very tough man.
my respects for both man Bruce and Gene.
@jesusnieves2222 In fact Gene L eBell is considered one of old Hollywood's most decorated stuntman and the Title '' World's toughest man '' was bestowed on him even if it was done more as an honorary title !
be safe if you train 😃👊
Excellent video. Between you and the KFG, there’s finally some real Bruce Lee content on RUclips. Keep up the great work!
When I watched your last video about Bruce Lee, I thought about this story. Bruce Lee might be arrogant as hell, but one thing that always blew me away about him, beside his extraordinary martial arts talent, is how he's willing to learn. Even learn from his mistakes.
Discovered your channel a few days ago and now a subscriber. Your presentations are very good. I love what you said at the end of this..."...no one should be above admitting when they are wrong and should be teachable at all times." I was a software engineer for over thirty years. Like Bruce, I wanted to be the best at my craft. I was constantly challenging myself and re-engineering my skills. Constantly. I was good. I was humble and had the respect of my peers and team members. I never felt a need to prove I was right about something or pretend I knew it all. When conflicts occurred, I found a way for those involved (including myself at times) to come to some understanding - even if an agreement could not be reached. It worked well for me. Love your channel.
This was VERY informative, insightful, and well edited. I'm a LIFELONG Bruce Lee fan, and I learned some things I didn't know from watching this. I was one of those brothers in the 70s who went around in a kung-fu uniform because of him, lol! I was THAT big of a fanboy, lol! Bruce is deservedly a legend, and this was a very respectful tribute to him. Cool stuff
Thanks for watching 👍
I still remember watching The Green Hornet TV show in 1966. I was more a fan of Kato, rather than The Green Hornet. And when I got older, and watched the Longstreet episodes with Bruce Lee, I was once again interested in the character he played. But I've never lost interest in him after I went to watch "Enter The Dragon". But I'm getting ahead of myself. There were also "Fists Of Fury" and "The Chinese Connection". I've been watching any and all documentaries and videos about Bruce Lee since 1973, non-stop.
@@GoldenbellTraining it almost seems Tarantino had something personal against Bruce.
@@darthracer777 He gave you a taste of what Lee was actually like. You don't like that because you've swallowed the false narrative ....the Lee mythology..
@@johnmatonne7834 you seem to make many assumptions. I could assume you're a Tarantino fan boy.
I appreciate your fair take on things and actually doing some research. I know some people who trained with and knew Bruce and although he had a temper and ego, he could also be humble and willing to learn and teach and strived to be good at everything and help others get to that level also. Thanks for your take on things.
The problem these people ( could be fakes ) who claim trained with Bruce’s former students don’t defend Bruce Lee against naysayers in a heart beat.
GOOD video.Learned a lot,didn't know about these issues on the set of-GREEN HORNET.More,please.
Thank you for all the videos and always posting sober, grounded arguments. I was born in 1973 and my mum said the 2 things that I responded to first were Doctor Who on TV and Bruce Lee movies, so I've never known a life without Bruce Lee there somewhere. I respect everything he went through to become what he did but, yes, he was human just like the rest of us but this video just proves he WAS always learning. I am a musician, I write instrumental music and yes - sometimes you have to be humble and admit something you are doing doesn't work and adapt. You LITERALLY have to be Water.
Very true -- my friend/senior instructor at my school gave me a lesson on something over the weekend that I learned in my very first internal kungfu class almost 14 years ago.
It made me realize I've been training something all wrong, and now I have to focus on that one thing for the next 3-6 months!
@@GoldenbellTraining I found this interesting that nobody talk about Bruce Lee’s strength. 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
So true.
Nel film Bruce era trasformato in un semplice attore
Ma lui era un campione
A Brad Pitt l avrebbe picchiato
Probably one of the best overviews of what was really going on back then that I have ever seen. Very well done! 👍👍
Really good video providing the context of what occurred in his life prior to the Green Hornet. Well done.
Thanks for watching
The scene where Bruce jump down the stairs and did a high kick to knockout the lights from the ceiling then broke the desk,in fact did happened ,it is on film to this day,but Bruce unaware that he was suppose to break a breakaway desk ,actually broke the wrong desk which wasn't a breakaway desk ,so it was a mistake ,only because Lee was unaware of the tricks of the trade that Hollywood stuntmen used at that time.This was written about by Bruce Lee's wife Linda Lee ,who wrote about her experience with Bruce Lee called "Bruce The man only i knew" As far as Bruce humbling himself ,Bruce wanted to be successful in doing film and once he realized he knew nothing about how to perform stunt fighting,was smart enough to know that he needed to become the student and learn from Lebell, which he did.Basically Bruce Lee learned from the error of his ways.To add to what this gentleman is saying ,not many people knows this, but Bruce Lee, once he realized that stunt fighting was a whole different art form on screen,Lee invented a Martial Art's style just for the screen and the movies.People who are Wing Chun practitioners will notice that in all of Bruce Lee fight scenes, in his movies ,looked nothing like Wing Chun,it look more like Karate or kick boxing.and the reason why Lee did this ,was because he realized that there was no way he could only use Wing Chun to do his fight scenes,since each fight scenes would be too fast and be very boring to watch,Wing Chun was simply too fast for the camera's in his movies. Lee's on screen punches were more round and not straight line punching which would be the Wing Chun punches.Another thing that Bruce Lee did on the screen was slow down his moves,Even his fight with Chuck Norris was slowed down believe it or not. You see even though Bruce Lee did learn from Lebell how to make a punch or kick look real ,without actually hitting his stuntmen,Lee still would hit his stunt people,as Bob Wall explained how ,the kick that he received from Lee in Return of the Dragon ,was real but Wall could and would take it,which was why Lee loved Bob Wall in his movies.Anyone who want to read about the real Bruce Lee should read Linda Lee's bio called "Bruce the man only i knew." She talk about Bruce hurting his back just before filming his final film and how he over came it.His fight with Wong Jack man,She gave an honest account about how the fight evolved and who won that fight, she talked about how Bruce realized Wing Chun had many weaknesses and what he needed to do to make it a more practical and a all round style,by adding techniques not included in Wing Chun,like the side kick. the high kicks, and a long punch,all of which is not a part of Wing Chun, the ones he used in "Return of the Dragon" if you read this book you will not put it down until the end.
wow this video was good from start to finish. usually i tune out and move onto other videos quickly but i watched this one all the way through the first time i clicked it on. thanks for the info
Pretty damn cool video! I randomly came across this but it is by far the most non-biased Bruce Lee video I have seen to date. I definitely learned something new today. Will check out more of your videos. Thanks!
Thanks for watching 👍
Loving these videos! It seems there’s a whole other universe in the world of Bruce Lee, martial arts and stunt work in Hollywood in those days.
Bro!! Absolutely true!! Van Williams who played Britt Reed(?) tells the same story from an interview years ago!! I think Van Williams said they let Bruce direct a fight scene and it turned out badly and how it got laughed at!! Thank you for shedding light on that and the fact how Bruce had ALREADY been training in judo long before he met Gene Lebell!! Great video!! BUT, still waiting on the Vic Moore video👍👍
Yeah I knew this story too, I believe that's true, and it's an interesting story
Excellent! so well put together. Thank you. Subscribed.
Been waiting for Golden's new video and here it is. Lots of info on Bruce. Much appreciated.
Great video good man! Some ppl don't know that Bruce was already receiving training in other styles outside of Chinese Martial arts. He also took up boxing and fencing at LaSalle college in Hong Kong. Just like as you mentioned, Bruce is American as he was born at Jackson st. Hospital in Chinatown San Francisco, Ca. The gang he was apart of in Hong Kong was called The Tiger's of Junction st. It's great how Benny Dobbins and Gene Lebell helped Lee to perform better on the set. Quentin Tarantino has always struck me as someone who never had respect for anyone or anything, he was certainly talking out of his arse.
High quality video. Very informative and very detailed. Very rational and reasonable. Speaking truth to power. Well done!
Another awesome vid brother thank you...👊🏽
Your videos are the most considered, balanced and informed videos on YT, regarding MA and Bruce Lee. You bring a higher standard of rigour, and impartiality. I know what it's like to be lightning fast since teenage years while everyone it seems is moving in slow motion. I couldn't even see my own punches! When I had a brush with MA in the 1980's I felt there wasn't enough to keep me interested because it took people too long to develop and fully spar with you. I quickly retreated to running daily for two hours and doing body weight exercises to maintain extreme fitness to this day. I feel sorry for Bruce, because - well, it's tough and lonely when you are so different and people don't understand you (yet) because it's like you are speaking a different language. Bruce was great in many respects. Keep up this good work Goldenbell Training!!
You mentioned that Bruce Lee had studied Judo for 5 years before he met Gene LaBelle but you didn’t mention who taught him Judo. That was his first student in the US, Jesse Glover. Jesse went on to become an instructor in his version of Wing Chun (non classical gung fu) remaining in Seattle after Bruce left but he also traveled around the country giving seminars and sparring with students of which I had the great honor of being. RIP Jesse and Bruce🙏
I did an entire video on Bruce studying Judo
@@GoldenbellTrainingI have a question , is it true that Gene Labell snuck up on Bruce Lee when Bruce wasn't looking and picked him up and carried him around on his back ? I read that the reason why G . Labell did that was to show Bruce that he shouldn't go around intentionally beating up on the stunt men on the set of ;
The Green Hornet . Is that story really true ?
Gene Lebell first met Bruce Lee on the set of The Green Hornet, where he was hired as a stunt coordinator, he described Lee as being the best martial artist of his time & they bonded due to their interest in martial arts.
Bruce’s legend is far over exaggerated. In reality tho, he was a legit martial arts guy, and he was one of the pioneers of “modern mma” as during that time people thought you could only learn a singular style. And it was a battle between which style was the best. Bruce understood that no “style” is best, but you need to have a mix of ALL styles using the best aspects of each. At that time if you told your wrestling coach/boxing coach you wanted to learn BJJ, you woulda been kicked out of the gym and banned. Definitely a legend in the philosophy side of modern mma, actual fighting skills tho, he was pretty good and would have probably beaten a lot of guys in his weight class. But actual fighters like Muhammad Ali for example, woulda had a field day with Bruce
This guy is special, informative and insightful! Thanks for sharing!
Prince 老师， Thank you for your time and hard work in your channel. I've been a follower for some time, and your influence is extraordinary. Especially reminding us to breathe. Such a simple everyday firmware engrained in all of us that we just don't think about. 谢谢， 再见！
Best Bruce Lee channel on the internets (along with Kung Fu Genius). Love the Thai gym background... thought it was real at first :D
Bruce Lee was a great guy.
Holy cow! You are among the best for being informative about Bruce Lee. Well done.
Thanks for watching 👍
This is a great video. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate you.
Thanks for watching 👍
There was only one Bruce Lee no one can imitate him !!!
Thank you brother 🔔 for bringing common sense into the world of Bruce Lee, many blessings and 💙☯️☮️
Good video, you do your research. Thanks for posting. This is the second video of yours I've seen. you got another sub here.
I really appreciate your thoroughness in looking at ALL ASPECTS of any controversies. I had heard of the Seagal, Lee, Lebell indecents, but had reservations with what I was hearing because things seemed sensationalized. Your sincerity shines through in your presentation of the known facts, and your honesty in saying "I do not know" for those you do not know. Thanks for your refreshing videos, and keep up the good work.
Love your videos on Bruce!! Spot ON!!
I was angry when Tarantino went after Bruce Lee the way he did. Tasteless to say the least. Thanks for the insider.
excellent review of Bruce during the Green Hornet years AND the details of his early Judo training.
this is like a gold mine! thanks so much
Presented well. Thank you.
Would love to hear more about Lee’s Judo training!
He trained Judo with Jesse Glover and Fred Sato since 1959.
He also trained Jujitsu with Pro.Wally Jay who is on RUclips.Also alot of his students knew martial arts and grappling like Larry Hartsell there both on RUclips but Larry passed away.Bruce taught Wally some of what he knew also.And Bruce and Chuck Norris trained together and Chuck knew Judo and Tang So Do.
@@AztecUnshaven He also trained in jujitsu with Professor Wally Jay who is on RUclips plus alot of his students knew martial arts and grappling like Larry Hartsell who was real good and on RUclips.Bruce taught Wally some of what he knows also plus Bruce and Chuck Norris trained together and Chuck knew Tang Soo Do and Judo.
@@shawnsmith2610 Yes I'm well aware. Jesse Glover and Ed Hart were Bruce's first students when he came to California. Jesse was a champion Judoka and eventually became one of Bruce's best fighters. Wally Jay and Bruce were close friends as well, as well as Hayward Nishioka later on as well. Bruce only trained with Gene for about 1 year.
Am.glad I watch this to get the record straight. Loved Bruce Lee and when Quintan was saying these things I was like wow!! Now hearing what actually went down I can clearly understand. Thanks for sharing 👍
Excellent video and even better that you closed with the importance of keeping that beginner's mind!
@Goldenbell Training I used to do Tai Chi 10 years ago then after finding your channel I became inspired to practice it once again and teach it to my sons, unfortunately I lost both of my teachers and do not have anyone teaching within a 100 miles where I live..
I have sifted through most of the RUclips channels on Tai Chi tutorials and not one of them give comprehensive instructions on the 24 form or 108 form in my opinion..
I was wondering if you would do some Tai Chi instructional videos?
I believe many of your subscribers would love and benefit from them!
Great video, as usual! I really appreciate your willingness to acknowledge counterarguments before simply dismantling them with historical evidence. To that, your sources are great, many of them from people in the industry I'd never heard of before! Hearing from them (and you) has really changed my views on Bruce without corrupting the idea that he was an incredible person, because he was! As for Tarantino...
For the most part, I was about to say the exact same thing.
As for Tarantino...
@@LordChastened In RUclips channel comment section, you will find lots of toxic and negative comments regarding Bruce Lee,
Such as for example: Bruce Lee cheated on his wife etc.
I'm beginning to understand that.
Thank you for this video. I appreciate the calm and balanced presentation of the facts. Excellent 👍🏻
You're videos are awesome. As a fan of Bruce and Gene I knew a lot of these details and surmised the real story was somewhere in between Your video nails it. Thanks! That gym you're at looks like a great place to train.
Thanks for sharing 👍
I don't train at JAM, though- it's in Reseda, CA, and I am in Thailand.
Unfortunately the only tricking happening where I live happens on Walking Street, Soi Bukhao and Soi BJ. 😂
This was really interesting.👍 One of the first times I saw a Bruce Lee film was at the drive in with my parents as a kid. Kinda dates me. Haha. Been a fan ever since. Great, informative and thoughtful video.
Edit: Actually, from all the stories I've heard about Bruce Lee he always struck me as a thoughtful, considerate and actually quite generous man. He was obviously very confident and perhaps sometimes he could be cocky ot perhaps come across so. Well, just imagine the people he chose and sometimes, had to, hang with. From the gang members of his youth to movie stars, directors, producers, and various assorted Hollywood bigwigs, to an array of bad ass stuntmen, and champion martial artists. Yup. A real bunch of wall flowers. lol
Thank you for doing this video. I have been trying to tell people about this for years but they don't want to hear it. They've put Bruce on a pedestal and can't imagine that he wasn't good at something. The first time I heard about Bruce's problems with screen fighting was in a 1983 interview that Van Williams gave. Anyway, good job
Thanks for watching 👍
Bruce was Top of all marshal fighting. Believe it !
Speaking of Van Williams... who played the Green Hornet... I saw a film clip not very long ago where he said, " I made the mistake of sneezing ( too loudly ) while standing close to Bruce. I found myself on the GROUND. I do not know if he was knocked unconscious. I cannot IMAGINE Bruce Lee..... who I believe was HIGHLY ATTUNED to his environment..... taking someone down for..... what..... not knowing that they were sneezing?????! Oh BOY. I hear new things about Bruce Lee almost every day!
Being too fast and too powerful for TV fights isn't exactly a criticism imo.
@@Thomass7586 If his fighting was as good as your spelling, his rivals have nothing to worry about.
Learned a lot. Love the attention to detail, and respect for the truth here. Nice video!
I LOVE this video man! Thanks for the education! Learned so much! Bruce was phenomenal and he only got that way because he was NEVER incapable of learning.
Thank you for this intelligent and informative video, and for revealing the truth, and debunking the BS
Its funny to me how people with zero experience and fan knowledge or less about Martial Arts always dog Bruce but World Champions and Grand Masters respected him.
You really know your stuff man! Instant subscriber.
Love your channel. TONS of information...
Thanks for clarifying....Bruce is forever great!
People forget Bruce learned Judo and some form of Jujutsu from the Chinese Hawaiian guy named Wah Leong Jay
Yep! Wally Jay!
Jesse Glover too.
Bruh, as soon as you said "if that chafes your chaps well you gotta deal with it" I subbed instantly. You're a legend lmao
Very informative video. And unlike many 'factual' stories on Bruce this one makes sense from start to finish with no inconsistencies.
this story makes perfect sense to me no matter what the situation there will always be changes you will have to make nobody is perfect thanks for the info
I don't put much stock in all the Bruce Lee millenialism. I simply saw
him years ago for what he Was, and what he Became; The Greatest
Forerunner of advanced Self-defense, and Martial Arts in general.
Nuff' said!
Great video, Bruce was a complex character in a world of diverse martial arts suddenly adopted by mainstream western cinema. This shift in the acceptance of eastern culture and its Cinematic appeal was a seismic event that resonates today and will forever be associated with Bruce Lee.
Awesome video!
Lots of great info’ here.
I would have to say that Gene LeBell also taught Bruce real grappling. One could have five years of Judo and still have a ton of stuff to learn from Gene.
Didn't Gene study catch? Pretty sure that's where he learned leg locks.
@@The_Ballo Gene first learned Catch as Catch Can from Ed "The Strangler" Lewis and other pro wrestlers, starting at a very young age. His parents ran the Olympia stadium where all of the boxing and wrestling took place.
@@johndouglass3691 What a legend
@@The_Ballo I only got to meet him twice but he made a lasting impression. Great guy.
Thanks for the information QT needs to shut up Bruce was a great martial artist But he always kept a beginners mind He was always a student He had a vast library of books and tapes on martial arts As for Ali he had great respect QT needs to get his story straight
I've been into bruce lee for years and never knew that thanks very much for the info
Great video man, truly.
Bruce Lee, forever!! 👑
Thank you Prince
Fantastic video man!
Thank you! Finally a clear and neutral explanation on this matter that has been around for many years! Thank you!
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There's actually more to the story. I'll be posting an update soon.
@@GoldenbellTraining will be waiting for it!
Tarantino had it all twisted.What makes him the foremost expert on Bruce Lee?After Pulp Fiction,it was all downhill for him.
Bruce Lee gave a job to Jene Le Belle. Jene said that himself in an interview. Bruce Lee may have made contact with the extras/actors who were a part of the fighting scenes, but he was not alone in this practice. The Hong Kong movie scene had this as a standard, in order to make the fight as realistic as possible and not because someone wanted to disrespect the extras. Jackie Chan, Cynthia Rothrock, Benny The Jet Urquides and many others share the same experience. Tarantino is the only person who presents Bruce as a disrespectful individual. I choose to believe all of the contemporaries of Bruce Lee who describe a totally different character.
Please research Uma Thurman’s experience with Tarantino and then you might change your opinion on the validity of his story.
Bruce Lee was indeed a hot head. Read "Showdown In Oakland" friend
Except that Weinstein was the one who made Uma Thurman do the car stunt in Kill Bill and not Tarantino, You seem to forget that Bruce asked his master after 3 weeks how long it would take to beat the guy who kept beating him and his master himself.
On top of the fact that everybody Bruce taught had a different style than he did and so therefore they all said he trained with them so he could easily pick up on their style and prove on it and make it better.
@@ruthlessntoothless7552 They're possibly referring to when Tarantino spat in her face?
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I'm glad I came across your videos from these related to other videos I was watching from RUclips. The way you story tell and go in depth with all information, because you taking the time to learn everything about the individual, an not just from what other people are talking $#!+ about.
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I had research this topic a while back and from what I understand Bruce didn't understand camera angles and how to sell a punch. Bruce and Benny were always bumping heads about how to do the fight scenes. Apparently, Benny got tired of it and spoke to the producer of the Green Hornet about letting Bruce director a fight scene the way he wanted. They finally let Bruce film a fight scene, let him setup the camera angles he wanted. After he recorded the fight scene he was called into the editing room to see his work. It was horrible. Bruce saw it with him own eyes. Bruce was humbled. That's when Gene was called in to help him sell his punches and kicks. After that Bruce had a lot of respect for Benny.
Lee also respected Gene after Gene kicked his ass on the set
@@johnbulcaster7464 Lol Gene never kicked his ass on set. Gene likes to exaggerate a lot of "stories" he tells. Same way he spread the Seagal chokeout story for decades.
@@AztecUnshaven Other stuntmen have also said that Gene Lebell taught a very arrogant Bruce Lee some manners
@@johnbulcaster7464 Stunt director Bennie Dobbins and Van Williams were always on set and stated that Gene never did that to Bruce at all. What Gene DID do is help Bruce film better "hollywood style" fight choreography without leaving the stunt crew clueless. Bruce was already well versed in Judo and wrestling years prior to ever meeting Gene.
@@AztecUnshaven Bruce was never "well versed" in Judo or wrestling, he was a little familiar with it.
Professor Gene Le Belle was one of the greatest fighting masters in history but was ignored due to his morality and extreme humility. I met him several times when he had wrestling bouts in the mid-1960’s. He was powerful nimble and beyond masterful! But from the TV scripts at the time you’d never know it. To us admiring kids who wanted to meet him and get his autographs he was really friendly and welcoming. He asked us all about ourselves and gave us encouragement! It was better than going to church I have to say. What a noble gentleman! There will never be another like him. Sadly.
Except the exaggerations he spread about "being the one who taught grappling to Bruce", and outright lie of "choking out Seagal."
You been going to the wrong church
Thanx for another balanced video, great work.
I gotta say again, THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge with us. I have to say that since childhood I like many others wanted to be Bruce Lee. I was born in 70' and was able to take martial arts at 16. However after excelling extremely fast I also gained a huge ego until I took a bullet in my back and my elbow (dead center) blew my elbow out. I trained with on arm for the remainder of my days. But, yes, you're correct on so many levels. Now days a person can't say anything about anyone (negative comments and Steve Seagal) without someone getting their feelings hurt. I for one don't and won't make negative comments about a person unless that individual has brought it upon themselves, I also find few redeeming qualities about Seagal. Even when his movies first started to come out I quickly realized Seagal's action sequences contained the same three moves over and over again the way he was presenting his style. Although Aikido can and has been a fabulous and beautiful style of martial arts its effectiveness can be limited when facing someone who knows what they are doing.
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Bruce lee was the fastest man in the world
no he wasnt....
@@cuzz63 no, who is the faster?
From all different articles and in books that I've read, Gene Lebell put Bruce in a Fireman's carry quick and ultimately Bruce was impressed by it and Gene ended up becoming friends with Bruce teaching him his particular Judo and finishing holds. Not every Judoka had the same skill set as Judo Gene. Gene had some mad Catch Wrestling skills as well. Of course Gene was in pro wrestling too and is a character & likes to embellish... especially on the Steven Seagal incident. Look up Viking Samurai's RUclips page and you'll see accounts of the few people that were actually there on what really happened.
That was a lie he never had bruce in a fireman carry
@@mr.8999 I don't know if it's true or not, but how do you know ?
@@stevo62ful my dude, gene label helped Bruce Lee learn ground fighting and submission holds
However, in exchange Bruce Lee taught gene stand up
If gene LaBelle was better than Bruce, why did Joe Lewis, chuck Norris, countless movie stars all PAY BRUCE LEE TO TRAIN THEM INSTEAD OF GENE LABELLE?
Obviously, because it was well known Bruce was by far the superior overall fighter
The Kung Fu Genius will be talking about this in an upcoming episode -- stay tuned to his channel!
@@mr.8999 says who?
Great vid dude 👍
Dude, your videos are awesome!!!
Bruce Lee: an amazing martial artist. Simply amazing and ahead of his time.
Not a fighter by today's standards.
he can t win against conor
Bruce may have been training judo before he met LeBell, but he was nowhere near the high level that LeBell was.
Yes, this is the difference between being a generalist versus an expert. At no point was the claim made that Bruce was an expert.
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Important to note that Gene's striking and speed was nowhere near the level of Bruce as well.
Ofcourse Bruce was no where near LeBell on Judo cause Bruce adopts his own style! Bruce is a father of MMA like Dana White said!
I enjoyed this. I worked with Gene a little bit while he was at Gokors gym in LA. Great group of people.
Nice video dude, keep it up!!!
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