3 Reasons Quentin Tarantino is WRONG about Bruce Lee
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- A lot of Bruce Lee fans weren't happy about Bruce Lee's portrayal in Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," and Quentin Tarantino has a message for Bruce Lee fans.
When it comes to being a martial arts athlete, it all starts with the Little Dragon himself, Bruce Lee, and that's why I'm going to share my thoughts on this whole thing with Quentin Tarantino telling Bruce Lee fans to suck a dick, and then I'm going to tell you 3 reasons why Quentin Tarantino is completely wrong about Bruce Lee.
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I think Tarantino is just fuckn with people. If you look at that movie, it's historically inaccurate. Sharon Tate survives for example. I don't take it too serious. I think it's more for publicity than anything.
@@swankybutters8371 Are you a fan of the zodiac killer? I noticed you use his logo.
@@swankybutters8371 I was just curious why you use his logo. I find the zodiac killer case probably the most interesting within the subject of serial killers. By the Way, Bruce's legend will shine regardless of what anybody says about him. JKD was the original MMA. He was 30 years ahead of his time.
Fun fact about Quentin Tarantino, he drinks a lot of alcohol. A lot! 😂
There was no such thing as Special Forces in the American Army in WWII. They didn't exist yet.
Jackie Chan himself who started out as a stunt man said Bruce had nothing but respect for stunt men and would never hurt them on purpose
@@g-man8980 The exact opposite happened. Bruce hit Jackie and Jackie didnt mind at all, it hurt but he didnt care "Stuntmen get hit all the time" were Jackies words. But he was pretending to be hurt infront of Bruce because Bruce was very empathic and so he always checked up on Jackie if he was ok.
@@g-man8980 You said he didnt want to look like a wimp but thats exactly what Jackie did. On purpose. To get attention from Bruce
@@g-man8980 theirs a good video of jackie chan telling said story but the video had a clcik bait title like "the time bruce lee and jackie chan fought "
@@g-man8980
It would only take Jackie Chan put mist guys out in a street fight
@@miamigangbanger you guys both sound full of shit but a simple Google search would probably solve this.
50years after his death and people still argue and talk about him with a passion, now thats what i call a real Legend!
So true.
Would that be the case for Tarantino though?
Because he was the first big martial arts actors, people who know about fighting have never seen him in a fight, so we honestly don't know how great he was, a Legendary actor, made martial arts popular and great dancer
@@deelucks9640 what do you mean about people who know about fighting, lots of top sports fighters have seen him fighting for real, and like most non sports martial masters they almost never are filmed, because are fought behind closed doors, like he did with chuck norris which was on you tube he trained the best and they fought with him, and they knew their place, Joe Lewis won titles because of his time training under Lee, and, Lee would nearly always take up a genuine challange but behind closed doors, i used to work in the film industry and can testify the point of no cameras in a real fight when steven segal was working on a film set in LA and was bullying the film extras , when some one said that he couldnt do that to a master who was living nearby and who was about 85 at the time segal said call him and i will deal with him, well this "old man"did turned up and stood very near segal and in a split second put him a strangle hold and put him to sleep!!!!---Lee had many street fights if you listned to his brother robert, and mobile phones were not about then, anyone at the time could have challenged him and some did but would rather not say!--he was a good dancer and not a Great actor but good enough--but he was the best martial artist of the time, and a real superstar of the big screen, and a real nice guy!
He certainly gained immortality where all the critics will be forgotten in time.
Everybody knows movies are just made up stuff, but when you take a real person, an icon, that you personally hate and make a movie where you make him look like a complete jerk just because he's not around to sweep the floor with your hair, that's low. A coward's move.
TRUE !!!
The funny thing is tarantinos a genius film maker.. but that Joe Rogan interview proved that at the end of the day he's just like every other know it all nerd who knows alot of STUFF.. but has very little common sense whatsoever
The fact that he glibly talked about how badly Bruce treated all the white stunt men &had no respect for them with such dismissive flippancy is irony personified.. this was a Chinese man in racist 1960's Hollywood showing up guys who could barely throw a punch &u wonder why the half-baked drunken anecdotes u got from them were a little bit iffy?
He's either terribly naive &clueless or just another one of those bitter racists who think they're "taking one back for the white man" by getting one over on the legend of a man who LITERALLY overcame all odds to be truly great
I love Bruce Lee. That said, he was shunned by his own people for giving away martial arts secrets. And he definitely did just do a bunch of stuff that wouldn't be useful in a real fight.
Bruce is a made up icon. The guys a actor
One thing is clear now, showing the real Bruce brings problems with his devoted fans. I am not a fan of Tarantino, but he deserves respect, that he tried to be obectiv as possible, even when the BL fans becomes crazy.
Bruce Lee will be remembered long after Tarrintino is gone 😎
probably not
Doubt it. Lee is only remembered because of RUclips.
Not even close.
I like the sentiment, but, reality is they will both be remembered and revered in perpetuity. They both are excellent in their fields.
🎯
Bruce Lee wasn't just a tournament fighter, he was a proficient street fighter. He was one of of the first to acknowledge the shortcomings of traditional martial arts.
He was never a tournament fighter, only street fighter. He didn't go tournament but tournament went to him. There were many guys of different fighting background according to DeMiles tested Bruce up in Seattle. They all failed 🤣.
Tournament fighter - no Street fighter - maybe in his younger years Martial artist - ehh/yes. I believe Bruce to be more of a cinematic martial artist at best.
@@The_Critical_Critic Its your opinion and my opinion to your opinion it don't hold much because he's proven to so many people he can not only fight but potentially kill someone because that is what he trained for. BRUCE'S speed during his era was hard to match, top tier tournament fighters tested him ended up students of Bruce,
Fact not opinion.
@@The_Critical_Critic The latter, what litterature do you base that on?
@@bechelerroseme6821 u really believe that crap?
This man made two whole martial art films where the hero wore a yellow track suit inspired by Bruce in Game of Death and has the nerve to disrespect the source of his inspiration smdh
Not to mention the one inch punch.
@@drewgunner14 push not punch
It’s very accurate portrayal of Lee
Exactly 💯
The film was a homage to old King fu movies especially the Shaw brothers films,.
This is a really great video! It really sounds like Tarantino confused Bruce Lee for Steven Seagal. In fact, I would but be surprised if he intentionally mixed them up to make his story more interesting.
I 100% agree with your assessment. Tarantino needed a legend to put his character over and there is no Hollywood action star with the legendary status of Bruce Lee.
I also really appreciate how you kept it real. Lee is such a legend that we sometimes forget he was a person and that he had flaws; people forget he never fought in any kind of martial arts competition. The legend is so much bigger than the man himself that martial artist tend to put him up on this pedestal, but you seem to know a lot about him - even some things that go against his larger than life image.
I don't think Tarantino understands just how large Lee looms in the mind of martial artists. There is so much we can say about this legacy and the impact he's had not only on action films, but all over the world of martial arts. You'll be hard pressed to find a martial artist of any discipline who doesn't admire Bruce Lee.
Maybe Tarantino does understand this and figures it's good publicly to have some controversy coming from the niche of martial arts enthusiasts. He gets attention for his project but only alienates a relatively small group.
Again, great video! I was half expecting more of the typical martial artist making Lee out to be some infallible demigod but everything you say here seems totally plausible. I would love to see some of your sources for info about what Lee was like! Do you have any recommended reading for Bruce Lee fans who want to know more about the man behind the legend?
A lot of people want to talk about Bruce Lee, but they don't even know the most basic facts about his life. I was obsessed with Bruce Lee at some point. I have about 10 books about him, all of the martial arts books he wrote, all of his movies and 2 documentaries about him. He was quite a fascinating character and way ahead of his time.
All this books were from him? Than you have an objective sight about Bruce Lee. And he speaks so good about himself? Hard to beliefe.
@@josef-Connected
I didn't write that he wrote all of the books i've read. Odd comment...
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably say I'm boasting. But if I tell I'm no good, you know I'm lying." Bruce Lee.
Wow how witty.
He's the best ever in my eyes
Exactly, the quote I think of when, I hear all the bs
He was good in martial artist. But nothing special.
Bruce didn't even have long hair during filming of The Green Hornet.
Exactly, my thoughts exactly. Just shows a complete lack of research on Tarantino's part.
@@hamburgareable He may have purposely filmed it that way to get eyeballs on the film. I mean, he was well aware that Linda and Shannon and several of Bruce's students are still alive and many fans around the world would likely have something to say about Bruce's depiction. He just didn't give a crap.
@@Quantum3691 Hahaha.
@@Quantum3691 He clearly wanted to stir up some shit. To purposely irritate Shannon Lee. Just didnt give a crap about anything.
The real Bruce Lee was not as shaggy as he appeared and didnt grow his hair until 1973 during his last film Enter The Dragon. Mike Moh, who ever found him, shouldve taken a recourse on actual facts cos he looks nothing like Bruce.
In the book Bruce Lee written by Bruce’s first JKD student Jesse Glover he writes “Bruce believed that there is always someone who can beat you in a fight if the circumstances are right and that to walk around thinking that you can’t be beaten is a foolish mistake that can end your life unfortunately this isn’t a popular concept in the minds of many martial arts people the path that Bruce followed was to live each day with the knowledge that he could be defeated by an expert or novice at any given time”
Thank you very much for shedding light and defending Bruce Lee's honor in this video. Appreciate it. Just for the record, i never did like Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood".
Jackie Chan would call Quentin a liar
Did he?
Quentin Tarantino will never know what an incredible martial artist Bruce Lee was until probably he got punched and kicked by him.
I just got schooled on some Bruce Lee knowledge. Thank you for the enlightenment.
What a great personality, delivery, and easy-to-listen to voice this guy has! So many homegrown RUclips host/presenters, I cannot listen to for very long without getting annoyed long before their video ends; but this guy - Prince? - is silky-smooth, entertaining, and seems like someone who would be fun and comfortable to hang-out with as a good buddy. Looking to more from him in the future. Keep up the good work!
The portrayal takes one little flaw and massively expands it to ridiculousness! Jackie Chan was a stuntman on a couple of Bruce's films and in a fight scene Bruce accidentally hurt Jackie. When he had seen what he had done he was incredibly sorry and they actually became good friends.
There are also other western martial artists who attest to Bruce's skills.
Ya can't blame Tarantino, blame the cocaine. Just kidding, he's an effing bum.
@@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 😂😂
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This is simply just a RUclipsr Lee fan fishing for likes on his channel so calm down. Lol. Think about how many people with the real details the third biggest director of all time has access to? This guy just Googled shit on his computer and was a Lee fan? Lmao.
Maybe because they are both Chinese?
Duh.
Just an envious guy wanted to defame the worldwide inspirational legend for personal gain. What a shame!
He is a Racist! American could not Accept an Asian Guy is more Popular than HOLLYWOOD!
@@teresachua3884 yeah its not even like Hollywood is the reason you know who Bruce Lee was!
@@teresachua3884 Bruce Lee did face a lot of racism when he was alive.
Great background information on Lee and Needham. New to your channel and started binged watching. Thanks for sharing.
Well done presenting the facts!
Thank you for making this video. At least for Hong Kong stuntmen, Bruce Lee would sit and eat with them instead of by himself. Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung and Yuen Wah have talked about how he treated them well.
Jackie even took Bruce bowling!! The extras who got beat up in the back alley scene in Way of the Dragon all said Bruce was really friendly with them!
Never watched the movie! And Never will!
@Benny Any evidence of that claim or did you just magically pull it out of a hat?
@Benny not even that autobiography Could describe how he was... Bruce Lee is dead, he cannot defend itself; Jackie Chan wants to cause trolling controversy!!! Get the Fvck outta here, Loser!!!
@Benny squatting 200lbs has anything to do with fighting? no one says you have to like him or believe any of it. follow what makes you happy. whatever man.
Jackie Chan tells a story of a time when Bruce accidentally hit him during a fight scene. Bruce stopped everything cold and was extremely apologetic. Jackie says he was shocked by how much Bruce cared for him even though Jackie was only a stuntman.
ALL it would take Tarantino is that little research you did and he'd know he's wrong, but he, like many immature Twitter Dwellers of today, Ignores the evidence. Even if it's posted, right there for all to see, pretend it doesn't exist and you couldn't provide evidence (when you could and did).
This was awesome! Love your videos. I really appreciate your well researched approach🙏🏻🤙🏼
Now I think this is your best video!!!! You represented Bruce and stood up for him. Most of your videos seem to kind of make him seem like an average martial artist. But this video gives him his due recognition.
"Most of your videos seem to kind of make him seem like an average martial artist."
You have me confused with someone else.
Tarantino always gives me bad vibes lol… I love Bruce Lee, an incredible legend.
Bruce lee always gave me bad vibes with his arrogance , while I find Tarantino authentic and unapologetically real
@@nickpapagiorgio9872 nah tarantino a weirdo
BL may be arrogant or is it confidence, the two often get confused? Tarantino sure knows how to show respect though....
Are you nutz? Kill Bill, parts 1 & 2 is one of the most incredible movies ever filmed...and is an homage to Asian culture and film.
Your “bad vibes” are easily dismissed, 🤡
@@twoblacklabs904 keyboard warrior lol.
If Tarantino said in that Rogan interview that Gene LeBell said anything derogatory about Bruce Lee, he's absolutely wrong. I've seen a few interviews with Gene LeBell. I have never, ever heard him say a bad word about Bruce Lee.
Or say anything bad about anyone at all. Gene was a gentleman.
Gene did speak well of Bruce but he's also supposed to have said he would bet his house on Chuck Norris beating Bruce in a real fight
@@stevo62ful you gotta root for your homeboy, right? 😂
He lied but I still love that movie, as you said the reason that stuff is in the movie is just to put cliff booth over and make the ending believable
Maaaan, THANK YOU for what you do! Keep the videos coming!
One thing about actors portraying Bruce Lee in the movies, they seem to act as Bruce Lee acts in the movies and not Bruce Lee the man himself. I think they should talk to those who knew him personally to get his true life actions.
Maybe I'm wrong but that's how it looks to me.
During the Bruceploitation film era during the 70's and 80's, most producers and directors didn't care about portraying him in the right way as much as making as much money as possible from the "Kung Fu Fever" of that time. None of those movies compared to the real one at that time nor even today.
@@Quantum3691 that's so true
I think tartino talk about the cocky actor who play the role of bruce lee in his movie
Kareem was a good friend. He's a great guy to get info from about Lee.
Yes, and anyone who knows anything remotely about Bruce Lee is that his objective is to take an opponent out in seconds, not minutes.
If another director filmed a scene like that with Sonny Chiba getting tossed around, Tarantino would be triggered for decades over it.
You know, you're one of the most captivating people I've ever come across online. I know I sound like a complete flower but really, I'm always disappointed when your videos end. Cheers, man. Good luck to ya!
There's an interview with the guy who starred in The Green Hornet who put this in context. Basically, Bruce was trying to do things that would not work in camera or is not really necessary in the context of not hurting stuntmen. It was not until they showed him how his suggestions would not work did Bruce acknowledge his error.
I actually know some of Jesse's students and they talk about Jesse like he was untouchable, some of them being from the military... Jesse always said Bruce was untouchable so I don't think Quentin knows what he is talking about. But it doesn't matter. Let him be an idiot. The only people who need to be right is the ones who knew him.
Yep. One of the best things to happen to Bruce Lee was his close inner circle of friends in Seattle. Jesse Glover was a high level Judoka that would win tournaments. Jim Demille was a boxer in the military and street fighter. Both were much bigger than Bruce but marveled at his speed and skill, and that was before Bruce evolved into the Bruce Lee as we know him.
ABSOLUTELY 💯 %
Am I the only one who thinks being in the military is absurdly irrelevant
@przybyla420 it is kind of irrelevant. I don't remember the videos arguments, so I can't really defend it or excuse my comment. But for some reason, people think the military teaches good fist fighting when it doesn't. You made a lot of bad decisions if you end up fist fighting your enemy when you both have guns.
I’m a fan of exploitation films, spaghetti westerns, old skool kung fu, Italian crime etc all the films Tarantino is into etc , but I’ve always had these weird vibes from him, I remember him saying he preferred Bruce Li, Bruce Le, Dragon Lee to Bruce Lee !!!! I mean that says it all he prefers Bruce impersonaters , just ridiculous, there is a certain group of people who criticise Bruce about the tournament bullshit, but the fact Bruce was Bruce he was always going to have people very jealous of him.
I think tartino talk about the cocky actor who play the role of bruce lee in his movie
Very true, tournaments are not always the true measure of someones fighting skills.
Why Quentin made Django a black guy? I like Italian westerns and he is not black
I love how QT is talking about the dude cliff like he really existed lol
Just found your channel , love your work ! Train hard brother
Bruce would never use a flying kick in a real fight. He certainly would not use the same technique twice, in succession, at his opponent’s request. Lastly, Bruce was a huge fan of Mohammed Ali and had great respect for him. The only way the Tarantino fight scene works is if it is a fantasy contained within the mind of the film’s protagonist. Personally, I lost a lot of respect for Tarantino after this movie, and even more so after Tarantino’s defence. Bruce is my Kung Fu uncle. I know what I’m capable of, and I’m aware my uncle was considerably better than me, so Tarantino can suck my fat Irish situation.
Another great video, thank you 👍👍👍
True. Bruce would start off with blasting kick to the knee cap or groin followed with finger jab to the eyes and then a combination of punches with trapping. I'd love to see what would a GI reaction to that would be...
@@eduardoescoban7790 yep, that’s more like it 😎😉👍🖖
He would never been able to do that in real life. He can only perform it as a stunt, not in an actual opponent fighting and resisting him.
First of all, Lee was an arrogant narcissist. There is not evidence that Lee was actually a good fighter in any sense. You also have no reason to believe that Lee wouldn't use a kick like that in a fight, because no one has ever seen him actually fight.
@@lostheart8092 I’m not sure there’s any polite way to say this: you, my dear fellow, are an ill-informed idiot 🤷♂️
(Oh, and Tarantino is by far the bigger narcissist.)
Goodbye.
My Dad fought in Korea. Awesome channel.
Good job man, I appreciate your show.
I don’t know why he did that he literally disrespected Bruce Lee’s legacy and his family
All I saw was a mediocre Director who makes shit films have an actor that ran from Mike Tyson screaming like a bitch portray a charcter who beat up another actor who looks like Bruce Lee. End of story !!!
An idiot seeking attention
@@johnluna9286 ? be fair. Come on its Mike Tyson what else was he...being him going to do?
@@dunbarf2413 - Try not cheating with his wife. Never mow another mans lawn especially if it has crab grass...LOL!
Lol, anime Avatar
Maybe Tarantino forgot Bruce lee is American after he said American stuntmen
Tarantino is a closet racist
@@MrSFblack most liberals are,but id like to know what you're basing that on,considering how many out of work black and brown actors he gave work to.
He gave them work using the N-word in an old-style 1960-1970 movie. We don't need any work like that. That's the way he sees us. Open your eye.
@@MrSFblack and believes myth about his heritage before he scripted Dennis hopper to tell story about southern Italians
I don't get why people think you can't dislike American stunt men if you're American.
Thank you so much for making this video.🙏🙏
Amazing video. Thank you for it.
Got one more sub for that.
I always saw Tarantino as a culture vulture.
@NoLaKazi plagiarism
@@thisisgreentext2147 Yep he's a plagiarist.
Every artist is.
@@mametoure1090 No. Do not confuse paying homage and emulation with out and out verbatim plagiarism. There is a difference.
Bruce lee grew up on the streets of Hong Kong fighting gangs,everyone was scared of him during his time in America. He was on another level physically and mentally to every other martial artist at the time.
Exactly. AT THE TIME.
@@ricksterdrummer2170 What other time would it be ? 😂
Lol you idiots just make shit up about this guy and believe everything you hear about him.
@@bwp714 what's made up?
@@Bitmapspritepaul Now?
Good points! enjoyed the video, keep it up, martial arts is about Mind and spirit too.
Subscribed. Look forward to your videos
Thanks for subbing
I have not seen this movie, nor do I wish to. I have enjoyed Quentins movies in the past but showing this type of disrespect for the sake of profit is truly sad.
It's definitely not one of his better ones, IMHO.
Your stament is so absurdly vague. So you refuse to watch any movie where a character gets displayed in a somewhat negative manner because it is 'disrespectful'. Or any movie where a character YOU LIKE gets disrespected? You should never ever start up another film then, start staring at walls and get yourself comfortable with that existance.
Also, I'm kind off relieved that you're not gonna watch the movie, because I don't think you'd be able to fully grasp what is going on in most scenes. Pretty sure you cant seperate fiction from fact either, you know this being a fictional movie with real people even though most of the plot is fictional.
@@berliaux Bruce Lee in his death has become an icon of legendary status. From his many students; to the people that knew him, he left behind a mastery of his art, philosophy and skill set. Quentin has a license to do what he wills, its his movies. But telling people that object to his portrayal to "eat a d***" is not respectful in any way. I appreciate your take and opinion but you have to be careful stating what people can and cant do.
@@berliaux If it is a fiction, then don't put a real people with real name in it.
I really dislike Tarantino after watching this movie. I grew up in the 60’s and Bruce Lee was a hero for me when I was younger. Even inspired me to study karate for a year, and then I moved onto kickboxing for a number of years there after.
I don’t appreciate the way Bruce was portrayed in this movie.
Thank you for making this video. God bless.
I will never support a Tarantino film again. Nothing but telling lies to slander lee
Fk Tarantino. He's an embarrassment to all italians.
Thanks for this video. I enjoyed it. :)
It's pretty cool that your grandpa served in Korea. My grandpa also served in Korea. One day I asked my Grandpa, "You went to Korea?"; He looked at me and said "yea" then it's like he disconnected and lost all interest, like I wasn't even there. I never asked him about it ever again.
Van Williams Say's everybody loved BL on the set of the Green hornet, yes even the stuntmen.
Tarantino is trying to rewrite history just to justify his shitty movie... crazy that none of the actors and stuntmen have spoken out yet
Bruce was charming to a fault. Cocky? Yes. Prankster? Yes. But his charm won everybody over. Van loved the guy.
The thing is Bruce Lee was human like the rest of us and even he knew who could beat him. But Bruce really focused on teaching people to adapt just like water. He wasn't looking to be over people, Bruce was just looking to bring out the best in others. Even Bruce himself said that Muhammad Ali would beat him. Still, I have much respect for Bruce Lee, he has inspired generations to see something. To see the best in themselves.
He also didn't look at your skin color or race, the only thing that mattered is that you train and train hard and achieve something.
Thanks, Bruce Lee.
Precisely. In the movie, Tarantino could've actually let Cliff Booth win a fight against Bruce Lee. The problem is Bruce is portrayed as a complete anthesis of his real personality. There is racial reasons behind that.
is not better to work to eradicate the violence than to trying to be the best in fighting? 🤔
Bruce was just being humble about Ali and he was referring to if they fought in the ring. In a street fight, that would be a whole different ball game. Also Bruce had a boxing match back in Hong Kong in the late 50’s. This was confirmed by his brother, Robert Lee.
Thanks for the post man 😊
Thankyou for that summary in the ending. If seen THAT way then it can be possible to show a cocky Kato era version of himself. Hard to see it portrayed if you're a fan of the legend but it helps.
Great video! My son is into martial arts and Bruce Lee now. I showed him your video. He really appreciated your insights! There is no question: Lee was and is a real legend. Thanks so much!
The irony is the scene wasn't anything to be mad about until Quintin got defensive and started running his mouth
I actually agree. His defensiveness during interviews is what made this shit blow up.
I watched the movie without knowing about any of this, and the scene was ridiculous in every way.
How did I not know about this awesome channel before today? well, I love this channel.
Just found your channel and I’m really enjoying it. But gotta say you missed the best Hal Needham, Burt Reynolds movie reference for this video. Hooper. A movie about Hollywood stuntmen. Basically a movie about Hal without being about Hal. 🤘🤘
well, I practice and teach MA for decades. and as such i wanna say that Bruce was not a turnament fighter. As much as i love Tarantino's movies, he f...d up this time for sure, for numerous things.
He could've easily went to Brazil to do Vale Tudo fights which were going on at the time. Literally no rules, not even time limits. Before people say "Oh no one knew about that then" the Gracies were already teaching in the USA by the 1960s (mainly Rolls)
@@iorekby BRUCE would have gotten his azz whooped if he went to Brazil and done Vale Tudo. #FACTS
@@DigitalENCOM anything's possible but I doubt it.
BRUCE WAS A WORRIOR HE BRETH MARTIAL ART HE TRAINED FOR STREET FIGHTING IT MEAN' s HE DON 't need to show him self every times , when fight fs over he fight any time any place any situation don't need to tournament
@@iorekby Bruce was getting into acting and finally was able to support his family. Why would he ruin that to fly off to some fight island like a real "Enter the Dragon"?
The fact that Bruce lee is still the king of martial arts, Tarantino can't take that.
Bruce Lee will always be a mma legend but GSP is the best MMA fighter I've ever seen and he fought clean against the world's best who for the most part were NOT Clean and GSP still beat them.Jon Jones and Anderson Silva did the same but unfortunately Silva failed 2 drug tests and Jones failed 7 or 8 and neither won a championship at 2 different weight classes like GSP.
he is right now yes but surely not of all time
@@shadowban581 Depends if your referring to the actual man or the movie were he fights 10 karate dudes at once
@@MrGloryglorymanutd18 Lee never fought, GSP would rip his spine out
@@shadowban581 correct, an old (dead) man doing Chinese dancing is nothing
Bruce in the film was way too slow, but fighting a killer is different, he could be fighting with killer intent and he'll use any amount of unexpected violence to win. I think that car slam is a perfect example. In real life that's a really bad injury, something a killer would do vs a disciplined martial artist. But I think the fight is a flashback from Cliff's perspective, so maybe that's why Cliff comes out looking so good.
Bruce Lee was humble, but if you watched some interviews, he was a bit on the cocky side, but not holding that against him. He was not as tall as other actors/stuntpersons, so he did have to "prove himself" But everyone stills considers Bruce Lee as a legend.
And I guess Shannon Lee knew her father in those first 4 years she was born. I wish I knew what happen with my family the first 4 years of my life. She just knows what others said and his writings, but that isn't the same as being with that person for a long time and get to know the REAL person. IMO
As for Tarantino is a vindictive person, he hated his mother when he has a dream to work in the movie biz. She told him it won't work. Now he made sure she doesn't get anything from him if he dies before she does. I think he also doesn't talk to her anymore.
how disappointing cuz I loved reservoir dogs and pulp fiction but Tarantino hasn't really made a good movie in a long time. He sounds like an asshole here. And that fight scene... please. Like Bruce Lee would do a flying kick twice (or even once) and let him get under his skin like that.
Hateful Eight is his last good movie
@@fabioenchillada2278 It was Ok. I didn't hate it. I liked some of the scenes and dialog, but as an overall movie I thought it was kind of Meh
@@SnowWolf9999 Even most of die hard tarantino fans didnt liked it as much as I did so I guess its not for everybody
Tarantino is a joke for even saying anything about Sifu lee. He doesn’t have a shred of decency or respect for those who have passed. His movie is a disgrace to everything he stood for.
Frankenstein head Tarantino plagerizes films of yester year
once again, very good job, thoughtful.
Thank you for this video. You’re awesome dude.
Thanks for watching 👍
Just because this guy can make a picture dont make him no genius.
Yes, making one picture doesn't make him a genius, but making 46 of them with a 90% success rate, does.
@@lostheart8092 at movies yes, at facts no.
A genius is defined as a person that redefines the way an existing discipline forever influencing that discipline by their 30th birthday. Bruce Lee did that for film choreography, and the use of mixed martial arts to dominate street fighting, both before his 3Oth birthday. I've used Bruce Lee's contributions to street fighting to beat the crap out of 8 or 9 legitimate tough guys and fought a couple of cage fights winning one and losing the other. This was before drug testing turned MMA into a watered down sport. Because taking head blows damaged the glands in your brain reducing testosterone production, steroids should still be allowed, I want into them but I was never afraid to fight with people that were. Now days mma requires fighters to weigh within a pound of each other, back in the day I was allowed to fight an undrafted fighter that outweighed me by 20 pounds after he cut weight. He beat me .but I never tapped. I wouldn't have had the ability to put on a show without studying Bruce Lee's Tao and without some training under Hal Faulkner that was a student of Lee, Inosanto, and the first American that went to camp Gracie in Brazil and got a black belt under Hickson Gracie 7 years before the first UFC. I spent enough time to understand a little BJJ years before the first UFC and I used it in many street fights and it worked like magic in those days when BJJ was pretty much unknown outside Brazil and Japan. Bruce Lee stopped studying Wing Chun because Wing Chun is not worth a crap in a street fight if your under 150 pounds and your fighting American brawlers that are 250 plus. If I extracted enough from the ghost of Bruce Lee who was dead, and I'm a total nobody, then that is a testament to just his genius in the realm of real fighting and cage fighting. If his principals were unsound then I wouldn't have won again and again when doing dangerous work for the insurance companies in places like Oakland and even Stockton during the tail end of the crack epidemic. Right now and I hate to be political but Bruce Lee is not the only one being attacked by elements of the white supremacist, alt right historical revisionist that have reared their ugly head in recent years. Muhammad Ali is also under attack by closet Nazis that say his fights were fixed and that he wasn't really a good boxer! Closet Nazis that couldn't fight their way out of a vegan potluck have the audacity to say Muhammed Ali was not a good boxer! These same packer woods that make love to goats cause they are afraid of transgenders just because their daddy's never taught them to be able to tell the difference between a woman and a man dressed as a women are starting to claim Royce Gracie was not really a good cage fighter! Same closet Nazis taking pot shots at another genius in the dark esoteric arts of high level competition fighting and hard core street fighting against any fighters any where in the world. Anybody that wants to get in one of Bruce Lee's students and tell them Bruce Lee was not a "real fighter" should (if he is still alive) insult Lee in front of Kareem Abdul Jabar! Tell him that! Kareem studied under Bruce for 5 years! Bruce wrote about the danger of fighting tall fighters with long reach arguing that reach was the same as speed. Bruce a master of the understatement had a rare opportunity to learn to solve the riddle of a small fighter handling a tall long fighter. Bruce Lee just like Muhammed Ali and Royce and Hickson Gracie even the likes of Ed Parker or Fairbairn and Appelgate masters of Knives for military use and the list goes on and on back to the caves and back to Africa where we first entered into the animal kingdom are Geniuses in the arts of life and death via hand to hand combat. The elephant in the living room is that these attacks on non white athletes and street fighting gurus is all about racism taken to its extreme. The people that are trying to steal the glory of true geniuses throughout history that all happen to be black or Asian or Latino are not capable of judging their level of skill and don't have the intellectual capacity to appreciate their specific contribution to the collective conciousness we all have the ability to tap into, these critics of the likes of Bruce Lee and Ali are racist to the core and are subconsciously hardwired by their racist hate to try and end their legendary and extraordinary Ives, skill, and ultimately their acts of genius in order to create an inferior but much whiter well in which to drink from. The haters have no clue how to tell a women from a man or a goat from the sand and their purpose is to whitewash the collective contribution of non whites to all areas of art and entertainment, athletic, medicine, hard science, politics, sex, and military, exploration and extreme sports, crime and religion. Hating on Bruce Lee is hating on Martin Luther King. The people trying to erase Bruce Lee are the same people that would have rather have Putin as President instead of Obama or even the Catholic Biden. Trashing Bruce Lee is just part of a machine that for the last 15 years has been erasing the accomplishments of minorities and liberals. That's what is actually happening. You can easily tell how immensely talented a Bruce Lee or a Martim Luther King really were by just watching and weeping at sheer excellence. The tide is shifting against the racist revisionist and we are approaching slack tide. This slack tide is the moment that the liberal and minority and impoverished are crossing the bar of systematic racist revisionism and once again entering the freedom of an ocean of human achievmant and humane governance that is going to end this Post Truth abomination and replace it with the swells, salty air, and seabirds that interact upon the ocean of humanity. The racist Nazi's have run out of steam and their black hearted vessel just got smashed by the breakers and standing waves guarding the treacherous bar that they waited to long to pass.
@@sndspderbytes So, no. You started off all wrong.
First, genius is a grandly subjective term and doesn't at all mean what you said it does.
Second, Never said Lee wasn't an influential person. I stated countless times that he was a decent actor and great Choreographer.
Lastly, the rest of your post is nothing but anecdotal nonsense. It doesn't at all demonstrate Lee's ability to fight.
He is a Genius in his chosen profession
I doubt Tarantino can even do a push-up---much less a kick to the
Jaw!
Yeah you made a point. He shouldn't comment on anything unless he can do it himself.
Just kidding what you said is completely stupid.
@@Erynnin Of Course...and what YOU said, was completely
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I, well we watched the movie, my wife and I watched / bought, “ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD”. We absolutely loved it! Yes, it was hilarious in several places.
And, how Quentin Tarantino portrayed Bruce Lee, lol 😂 was so hilarious! Both of us almost said the same thing nearly at the same time, along these lines.
“If Bruce was alive when the movie came out, we betcha that Bruce himself would have laughed right alongside us all!! Lol 😝 lmao 🤣
Changes in Tarantino's attitude towards Bruce occurred during the filming of Kill Bill. It is recorded in this film that he respected Bruce Lee, as he dressed the main character in his costume. But he worked with David Carrodine, who took the Kung Fu project out from under Bruce's nose and subsequently spoke negatively about Bruce in an interview, so I concluded that it was Carrodine who was the person who changed the attitude of one master to another.
If there is anyone who is arrogant and disrespectful it is Terrantino himself. If bruce was still alive today even at the age of 81 i believe he would kick there asses especially Terrantinos
So true, my Choy Lee Fut grand master could bounce me around effortlessly in his 80s like I was nothing.I wonder how people who knew and respected him like Dan Inosanto and Chuck Norris would view what he said.
LOL you sound like you're 12. I mean he could try, but that would be assault.
Doubtful. I bet even you could have kicked Lee's ass. There is no evidence that Lee was actually a good fighter. At best he was a good choreographer and a decent philosopher.
A mockery to Bruce Lee and everything he has achieved and anyone who don't know much about Bruce, after watching this silly movie, will think of him in this light. Hollywood telling false naratives for their own gains once again. Disgusting.
I never seen that shit...here in Amerikkka white folks and foreigner's always win without Jesus.....Blacks, Mary, Buddah and the so called saints bless thier stinky businesses, they win the hearts ofour women, thier eating good off our plate😭 ..lauryn hill said how you go win when you aint right within??? ....shit the devil's babies always prosperin!!! I wanna slap the fool who says God dont bless no mess with a hot plate! Imma slap Karma with a brick on Judgement Day!!!
Actually, Bruce Lee's legacy is a false narrative. He is only famous because of his movies. There is no actual evidence that he is good in a fight.
@@lostheart8092 well chuck Norris and Steven Segal ain't shit 😒
@@robertmitchell5140 No shit, most movie martial artist aren't shit.
Hollywood never liked Lee during his life time... they only came calling once he made a name for himself in Asia. It's sad things have come full circle, in a negative way.
There's nothing wrong with Bruce Lee. It's always certain people who are so jealous and so negative. Even the people who challenged him were Proven wrong and found out the hard way.
I like Bruce and don't have any problem with how he is portrayed in this movie. He wasn't put on some pedestal, probably why people are so butt hurt over it.
I like to see Tarantino do a one arm two finger push up lol seeing some of these comments shows that some people don't appreciate what Lee brought to America but true martial artist like Connor, and Anderson, and bones Jones gives Bruce lee the respect he deserves. It sad to see the hate from the 60s still exist in 2021 crazy Rip Dragon Lee ✌
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Yeah these haters are just self righteous cowards.
I think tartino talk about the cocky actor who play the role of bruce lee in his movie
@@grantsolomon7660 I don't hate Bruce, I am presenting facts, which are there is no hard evidence of Bruce being a great fighter because none of us have seen Bruce in a real fight. It's all "he said" or "they said".
@@stevo62ful He said she said?.Im wondering exactly how Joe Lewis reckons his fighting skills improved after training with Bruce Lee, especially if Lee wasn't a good fighter and he is one of the many.It seems that as people get older or drop the branch history is rewritten.
I found the scene really cringey when I watched the movie. I guess because I expected Tarantino to show more respect for Bruce, since Tarantino is such a fan of cult movies. When I thought about it a bit more, I started to wonder if this has something to do with the fact that Lee helped put Golden Harvest on the map, who were one of Shaw Brother's competitors, and it's well-know that Tarantino is a huge fan of Shaw Brothers, so maybe this was his way of dissing Bruce Lee in order to help promote Shaw Brothers? Lee's style was definitely more contemporary and realistic than the Wuxia that Shaw Brothers were known for. Since Lee was an unprecedented breakout star who ushered in a completely new style of martial arts cinema, it can't have been good for Shaw Brother's business. Either way, Tarantino is pretty lame and he certainly never had the impact ono cinema that Bruce Lee had, so he really has no right to disrespect Bruce Lee!
its weird since, china still churns out shaw bros. style amrtial arts films..
@@UNSTABLE111 I think that style has had a bit of a renaissance in China as it's seen to instill a sense of pride in young people about China's heritage, so it is heavily backed by the government.
I think tartino talk about the cocky actor who play the role of bruce lee in his movie
Great video; I love it !!!
Another great Video. You are a RUclips Legend.
Always LOVED Bruce Lee. Never liked Tarantino. Nuff said!
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Come on Bruce lee films are trash
@@jamaali2358 Your opinion.
@@jamaali2358 watch your mouth.
I know that Bruce Lee would never be such a bully he was budhist, he was so loyal to his convictions and believes that it inspired Chuck Norris to become born again Christian.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Even he inspired Jackie Chan and Donnie yen even jet Lee
I think tartino talk about the cocky actor who play the role of bruce lee in his movie
@@stormjeetkunedo173 Bruce was cocky, but in a charming way. Not to stir up movie set fights.
Japanese are Buddhist and look how bad they were in ww2.
It's nice that the narrator was able to follow his hero, Bruce Lee, all through his film an tv career to know everything Lee did and why.
Thanks a lot brother I appreciate you for explaining to people
I honestly think it's disrespectful especially to Bruce lees daughter and wife. How would he feel if his dad passed away and someone made a movie about him and made him out to be an asshole and lie about his character in order to make money off of it. Because if someone did that about my dad I'd be furious and I can relate to Shannon because mt dad passed away so that's disrespectful and disgusting
Tony Tarantino was never there for Quinton growing up lol He only tried coming back into his life when Quentin became successful and popular. He only met him in person once at a diner unexpectedly, and just told him to go away.
Grow up. Just because someone is pulling the wool over the audiences eyes on a "legend", doesn't make the facts any less facts. We have no evidence that Lee was even close to as good as people believe him to be and yes, he was an arrogant narcissist.
@@lostheart8092 have any sources you want to cite or are you just talking out your ass
@@lostheart8092 WE do indeed have plenty of evidence he was that good, many top fighters were trained by Lee, do more research and you will see how good he really was, and a really nice guy!--so dont lose heart keep looking into it and you will see some who was indeed a "one off" --and a true LEGEND.
@@lostheart8092 grow up? Are you talking to your self?
Who cares what Tarantino thinks? He is one of the most over rated directors out there
I believe he even knows this, so remember the saying "Bad press is still press", by spewing these obvious lies, he is making a sort of reverse marketing. It will attract the hate and those whom will see the garbage film, and just because they saw it and money was paid for it, it will bring in big bucks. Call it a sort of scam by Shitrantino.
just like bruce lee is one of the most overrated actors :D
And he has a very punchable face.
I didn't know who is Tarantino until recently, the way he talks already shows he is cocky and ignorant, basically a degenerate and you can easily hate him, his trash movie shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
@@galahadthepure7277 was he?
I hear people saying messed up things about martial arts, like,, it does not work, it's useless in a real fights.. I almost went on that path.. and believe that martial arts is useless.. you gave me strength to rethink my thoughts on martial arts. Thank You..
Thank you for clarifying 🙏
I'm a 46 yo korean guy who grew up in an all-white community.
Bruce was my idol growing up, I read and watched everything I could on his life.
I'm also a fan of Tarantino and Rogan, so was disappointed in a lot of misinformation.
I'll concede that much of Bruce's life is shrouded in myth, but there is way more evidence that Bruce had to fight random guys on every set who picked fights with HIM, not the other way around.
They wanted the street cred.... what would he have to gain?
Thanks for your videos! So well researched and great editing!! Subbed!
Shooting someone with a gun in some jungle doesn't make you a "street fighter"
Irony of ironies for you to say that, considering Bruce often did very much advocate firearms and the knowledge of their use. So much so, that he often pushed for many of the characters he portrayed to be allowed to use a gun. He was nothing if not practical.
@@oceanberserker That's not an irony, it's a fact. I'd also use a gun when it's practical but I won't be d@mb enough to claim that it proves that I'm a street fighter, lol.
@@mrt445 No, I meant it was ironic that even though Bruce was one of the greatest martial artists of his day or any day, really, he still would've preferred to end any threat to his life or that of his family with a dose of hot lead.
I don’t know about anybody else but I would’ve enjoyed seeing John Wayne get clocked in the movie
Question: If Special Forces people are so lethal as Tarantino suggests, why hasn't a single one of these guys jumped into and dominated any weight class in the UFC or Pride?
Tim Kennedy did step in and did pretty good in the UFC. But didn’t dominate any weight class. But even more so of why is because the majority of SF are serving the country, fighting for our freedoms in their prime instead of training for UFC as most of the champions and fighters that dominate are in their prime. Most soldiers that choose SF are career military. Then do consulting work within the government agencies after. Also guns and other weapons make SF extremely lethal, they have access to weapons we think don’t exist.
Tarantino is jealous of Bruce Lee success
100% AGREE!
Yeah I'm sure the guy who achieved his dream to become one of the most successful film directors of all time is jealous of Bruce Lee.
@@CaswellMazzei because he is lmao
@@zk0rned I just don't get why he would be jealous of Bruce. Maybe if Quentin wanted to be a famous and revered martial artist. But as far as I can tell Quentin has totally different aspirations so I really don't get why you would assume that he made Bruce out to be the way he is in his film out of jealousy.
Why is it so hard to believe Quentin may have heard stories from people in the industry that actually worked with a young Bruce Lee and recalled him being a bit cocky/ rough on his fellow stuntmen, then decided to make an exaggerated version of that to try and accentuate how badass the FICTIONAL character of Cliff was supposed to be? Its well known that Gene Lebell did something similar and then him and Bruce became friends. I just see this as a plot device to show how badass Cliff was supposed to be. Its not supposed to be taken so seriously.
@@CaswellMazzei because Tarantino made pretty average movies and isn't as fondly regarded as Bruce Lee
It’s also an alternate reality, I mean the Manson murders were stopped by the main characters.
Fact is Tarantino is huge David Carradine fan. And Bruce Lee criticized Carradine. Rightfully so as someone who can't even kick above his waist is pretending to be a Kung Fu master. And yes, Carradine did in fact pretended to be a master in real life too. For that, Tarantino hated Bruce. He's mad that Bruce Lee criticized Carradine and now he's saying Bruce Lee's fans have no reason to be mad. What a hypocrite.
how do you know this stuff? I couldn't find it myself... I heard that Gene did grapple Bruce though and it seemed kind of believable since Bruce added grappling to his repertoire after.
Bruce didn't add grappling to his repertoire after meeting Gene LeBell. He was doing judo years before the Green Hornet.
@@GoldenbellTraining interesting. I was wondering if you had a source?
Bruce's letters & biographies. Bruce started learning judo in Seattle from his student, Jesse Glover, and then later as a PE class at the University of Washington.
Thank you so much for making this video and settling the record straight. I have been a Bruce Lee fan for nearly 30 years, and that ridiculous portrayal of him really upset me!
and you like Bruce lee?
@@stormjeetkunedo173 of course!
You people seriously have no humor and chill. You’re all so pathetic.
Cry a river then. You weren't there.
@@kiillabytez neither was Tarantino.
The thing that dusgusted me about it was three factors. 1. Bruce didn't have to win the fight for his character to have more respect. They just simply have to make the fight itself look more The main issue was that the way he was portrayed both as a character and a fighter was grossly misinterpreted. In terms of Fighting the fly kick was a major spit on two of Bruce's philosophies. The first being that he only does it in the movies and the second this quote from Longstreet. "You think a fight is one blow? One kick?" Whereas here he does the same move twice with results he himself predicted decades prior. Not to mention this place on the set of Green Hornet. Around that time, Bruce was laying the foundations for Jeet Kune Do. So the better way for the fight scene would have him use a more rougher version of it. To make it short oh, there was a better way of doing the fight while still giving Quentin's own character respect. 2. Out of all the times Quentin Tarantino has made claims of his characters being exaggerations and outright lying, this was the one time he thought he was telling the truth. The arrogance that came with it, made me very dissappointed. You do not tell Bruce Lee's relatives, students, co-stars and fellow actors and martial artists, that you know about Bruce more than they do. Yet he gleefully says it.
3. They missed out on a lot of good opportunities. In real life Roman Polanski, accused Bruce of murdering Sharon Tate. Since she was going to live in this movie, their confrontation could have gone a different way. Such as say, Bruce being the first to know about his endeavours. Not to mention, many people believe Bruce would have been in a position to save Sharon Tate from Charles Manson. It's Hollywood shlok, but that would have attracted more audiences.
Great movie. Thanks for the video.
Brian Stan was a Marine who served in Irag and faced real , deadly combat, distinguishing himself during heavy contact in Operation matador. While fighting MMA he lost 6 of his 18 fights, most of them to fighters with zero military training. Doesn't mean Stann wasn't a badass or American hero, just that those guys were better fighters( at least on those days) . A lot of former military, with combat experience, lose fights to no military experience fighters.
I've trained in martial arts with combat trained and combat experienced veterans. Some of them were better hand to hand fighters than i am, and some were not as good. As it turns out, hand to hand combat is not stressed heavily in military units as being able to shoot, maneuver, carry heavy loads for long hikes, and follow orders under stress are far more important than hand to hand fighting.