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The movie's semantic is not for literally true, but figurative real instead. Every thing happens to real people wasn't historically accurate, whereas every representative of certain people was in the way it was. That's why the movie's name and why it is in an artistic fashion. Because it is a movie about a tragic history and it has to be performed in a Quentin's entertaining way. Therefore when Bruce Lee meets a stuntman played by Brad Pit, Bruce Lee has to lose because it is not historically accurate and Brad's stuntman win because stuntmen are always the true badass. Quentin respects his own movie language, therefore the scene has to go that way, and he did.
Tarantino is a XENOPHOBE with an American superiority complex mixed in, from my brief analysis, that is what's going on. Him saying Bruce Lee said this and that about the "American" stuntmen when coupled together with his campaign to get rid of non-American actors pretty much exposes what's going on in his head, The dude can't take a foreigner like Bruce Lee (he was born in California but raised in Hong Kong) outshining real 'MERICANS and looked to destroy his image. This mirrors the struggle of Bruce Lee when he came to America, dealing with American nativist like Tarantino and seemingly, Samuel L. It just so happens that Tarantino's favorite black person, Sam L, seems to share this Xenophobia with Tarantino, remember when Sam L was going after them black British actors a lil while back. This might be why Sam L and Tarantino are such buddies, Sam L was either always this way or Samuel L adopted it from Tarantino. lol
We ALL Know those masters aren't worth anything they claim to be, too many videos of them getting embarrassed right here on RUclips. 99.999999% of the so-called masters cannot fight. Too many videos PROVE that.
There's an interview with Jackie Chan where he says Bruce Lee hit him by accident and stopped filming to apologize to him personally. Tarantino is full of it.
@@macrognsqd He checked on him to make sure he was okay, that is what shows his character. In movies, It is normal to keep filming even when someone got hit, specially in chinese movies. Jackie chan himself kept many shots running where he injured himself.
I know it's a fictional movie, but the problem is that Tarantino is actually convinced that Bruce acted that way in real life, which is a false representation...
he accepts no wrong doing because it's his art...he must be staunch he is not going to backtrack on anything he has envisioned and created that would be weak and confused
I'm just a white guy from the UK who only knows about Bruce from books, magazine's,, watching interviews and documentaries. However, what keeps coming across is what a great person he was who thought a great deal about other people and who wanted to make us better people.
Reading watching interviews and documentaries shows you're FOCUSED and not likely prone to misinformation. Example: One comment said, " Bruce never taught martial arts as an adult" I replied, watch a documentary or read up! Anyway as far as race, I'm Filipino and do Kali. It was the "white guys" that sat me down and went over the drills. The others were more into favoritism and Social Issues. I too had to read and watch interviews.
I'm pretty sure he cheated on his wife 🤔 If that's true i'm not saying he was the worst guy in history not at all but he definitely wasn't a great guy 🤷🏻♀️ Personally I think it's a good thing to bring up any faults a famous person has because it makes them look like what they are/were.. human and not some perfect inhuman god.
Yeah I agree with you. I got DVD 📀 here I does watch sometimes, he never tried to be top guy on the list. He was a good fighter though and not only teach but learn also from his students and friends. He was totally different from the other guys these days.
Huh?? Brad Pitt DID go along with the "original script". Why do you think there is controversy at all with what Tarantino did? The fact that Brad Pitt was friends with Brandon Lee shows that he is actually worse than Tarantino!
@@NomadFlow the video states clearly that the scene was originally intended to play out differently. so the original script differed from what we got on screen.
In my opinion, Quentin Tarantino is a great filmmaker, but Quentin is no martial artist, has never met or sparred with Bruce Lee, and should not comment on Bruce's abilities with no qualifications to judge.
It makes me wonder if that was Mr. Tarantino's agenda? Perhaps he portrayed Bruce Lee like that to get a rise to promote his film. Anyone who's did even a little reading on the life of Bruce Lee knows. Still, honestly I didn't like his portrayal. It was disappointing to see my hero portrayed the way he was in that film. I was looking forward to his part in the film since I read that Bruce was a good friend of the actress and showed regret that he couldn't be there to protect her. In any case, Tarantino is a great film maker but this one isn't one I'd watch again.
@Piyesis71 that could be true. In this social mass media age, a strong argument can be made that is no longer any such thing as career-ending bad publicity. Or at least, that the standard for what qualifies as "career-ending bad publicity" has been raised into the clouds. 🤣🤣🤣
Jackie Chan, himself, said Bruce was VERY concious of the idea of hitting someone and didn't like to do it, said Bruce was very apologetic about it. Tarentino picks and chooses what he pays attention to. Tarentino has also invested SO much time in being this hardcore Hollywood rebel, it's tough for him to back off. He's always had this "I'll do it my way" attitude and his head has gotten bigger than his actual fame and skill. nuff said?
@@harlem4693 he may have been that way on the set of the Green Hornet, but I don't believe there was ever any malicious intent on Bruces' part at all. His lack of experience in 'selling' a punch or kick is why Gene Labell was brought in. He put Bruce in his place, and to his credit, Bruce learned from the experience. I highly doubt that Bruce ever set out to deliberately hurt someone on any of his subsequent pictures, although injuries did undoubtedly occur. It's just part and parcel of the profession stunt guys find themselves in. Bruce was very highly thought of by the extras on his movies, opting to have his meals with them and train them, rather than act the big star.
Quentin said "Bruce didn't respect American stunt men and was always hitting them to make the fights look real". Half true. Here is the truth. Bruce had no problem with the American stunt men. People get tagged or hit during scenes. Not out of disrespect but to make the hits look real. They were not full force hits. It was the way they filmed in Hong Kong. I saw in interview with Cynthia Rothrock, and she spoke about the differences between American and Hong Kong stunt work. It really came down to different styles of stunt work. Nothing to do with not respecting American stunt men.
Jackie Chan also said that in Hong Kong they just used to actually hit the stunt men, it happened to Jackie, it happened to Bruce, and it was just a part of the Hong Kong martial arts culture. Jackie even spoke about how he had to train his own US stuntmen again to bring them up to standard
The first time I heard about this was back in 1995, when I saw a behind the scenes look at the movie Mortal Kombat. In it, Robin Shou, who played Liu Kang, asked Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa, who played Shang Tsung, if he could hit him with controlled force during their fight scene, to make a specific punch look better on film. Cary agreed, and Robin hit him while they filmed their fight scene. After I heard that, I began to understand that this was a thing in Hong Kong cinema, and that made me respect the actors and stunt men even more, because they were willing to take hits for the benefit of the film.
The physical contact is similar to when one is training with a partner at the dojo/gym LIGHT contact. You make contact with your partner to simulate that your hit did land, but you hold back the follow through so as to cause no pain or bruising.
Bruce Lee wasn't just an asshole... He's Inspired millions of people from beyond the grave. He wasn't just some arrogant karate star! He was a perfectionist and a pioneer! Think about the times he lived in. Couldn't have been easy being a Chinese immigrant turned mega movie superstar! Especially in Hollywood during the 60s. He was confident and capable! Plus he was very philosophical ! Bruce is and always will be a Legend
I'm half Chinese on my dad's side. He used to tell me stories about how his school bus driver when he was a kid used to ridicule him for being Chinese.
@simonpathomas4421 I'm sorry to hear that. I was in high school in the 1990s I never got teased for being Chinese at that time I was bullied and regularly physically assaulted over my physical disability my leg was amputated when I was eight due to cancer. It wasn't until Donald Trump ran for office that I began to receive hate for my Chinese heritage. I grew up thinking with the exception of a corrupt police force and others that the US was past that barbaric behavior. I was so wrong.
Quinton terentino and the making of One of his best movies ever "DJANGO" Let's him off the hook for any type of racism... Even though the movie is banned here in florida 😅...
@@stefanschleps8758 martial arts core values was to to avoid violence and not cause it but to be prepared to defend against others who use violence against you. And yes he popularized I will say eastern martial arts as boxing and wrestling which is western unarmed martial arts . Judo, ninjutsu, karate and Kung fu which was lumped into one Chinese martial arts no matter what style. David Carradine spread it also in the TV show Kung Fu in 1972
@@lostboy8084if you haven't watched it, watch Dragon, a Bruce Lee Story. In it they state that Bruce Lee pitched the idea for the show and himself as the lead character.
@@Wordsareprayers Quentin Tarantino lampoons several real life people in some of his movies, Adolf Hitler, for example in Inglorious Bastards, this movie is no different. It wasn't a documentary about Bruce Lee and you absolutely have to know that, as well as how this movie ends versus what really happened to the Sharon Tate and the Manson Family as well?
@@Wordsareprayers having a fight to a draw with a fictional character who is suppose to be a former Green beret that specialized in close quarters combat is disrespectful? yes he was based on some amalgam of real stuntmen but the character written was superior to the stuntmen he was inspired by. Tarantino's only mistake was how he responded, he should have just said it was imaginary fight with a fictional character and leave it at that.
Usually people who act arrogantly - nobody wants to work with them. He wouldn't have so many friends and people come to his funeral if he was arrogant like that.
From the ghettos - Bruce Lee is a hero to the world! Sad part about Quentin making this statement/proof appears to defame Bruce. True bios contain stories from ALL sides. This was biased rubbish. Is that the term used in Engand😂?! Tarantino are ya jealous? Wanna rewrite the history or a man loved by all races?
That says a lot how people find an idol and elevate it into status of legend without critically questioning whether or not it makes sense. People never stop proving how stupid and gullible they are.
All I have to say regarding Quentin Tarantino's ridiculous, untrue and very disrespectful portrayal of Bruce Lee in his film "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is that people will never forget Bruce Lee, even after the best of Quentin Tarantino's films are long forgotten. Although Quentin Tarantino has his own unique and remarkable style of filmmaking (and has marked Cinematic History in his own right), he would never have been able to make Kill Bill 1+2 without the strong influence of Hong Kong and Japanese Cinema to Western audiences, of which Bruce Lee was a major part. So, instead of making a mockery of a martial genius icon like Bruce Lee, perhaps Tarantino should be making a "hommage" to him. Although a Filmmaker should have the right to freely express himself within his work, Shannon Lee is absolutely right in defending Bruce's image, not only as his daughter, but also on behalf of the millions of Bruce Lee fans and martial artists throughout the World. Mr. Tarantino, I certainly hope that your next film is better, and definitely more respectful of other Cinematic icons that are eternal, timeless, and much bigger than yourself.....RESPECT!
He likes Bruce it was just cliff was a stunt man a Bruce was known for being a bully to stunt men. So the scene is somewhat accurate at least with how Bruce treats certain people
No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie. It was shameful, and it pissed me off as a lifelong fan of Bruce. I'm a 74 year old Black woman from Chicago. I remember the impact Bruce had on the world of every color. It was amazing just how fast we fell in love with not just the martial artist but the man himself. Tarantino 's movie disrespected Bruce and should be addressed. We love you still, Bruce, even after all these years. That will NEVER change. ❤❤
True Amen. Bruce wasn't perfect personally, but his positive qualities remain inspirational to this day. The more I learn about the real guy, the more I respect him, flaws and all.
@@rdred8693 Tarantino movie is the kinda of movie you watch for the satire. He portraited all his fetishism in his movie so we can't says much about him besides the fact he was a pervert creep and a great director. This movie is pure comedy an alternative world in any possible means from the real events. The only period bruce lee was maybe an asshole was in his debuts, pretty much when he was a teenager, inexperienced in martial art, I believe Tarantino's "research" come from that. But in this scene he was an adult accomplished master, and even the supposed victim of his tyranny how was the real Cliff says that's bullshit😂. I don't even know how someone is able to watch a Tarantino's movie and say "facts🤓"
"No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie." Actually, his friends have been saying he was cocky all along. And, this quote could apply to any of Bruce's movies.
I think Tarantino really screwed up on his representation of Bruce Lee. I'd wish he was smart enough to realize that and man enough to apologize for it.
Bruce Lee gets so much respect that I pretty much agree with the "suck a dick" response. The world should be able to handle this ONE less-than-godly portrayal like adults. I thought it was meant to be a comedic twist on our expectations until the QT interviews, so yeah he might just be bad at research. But it should be noted that this youtube video is making it sound like QT is saying "suck a dick" to members of the Lee family when he's specifically making an exception for them.
“ Look at my hand… That’s a Chinese hand. He’d kill me.!” Bruce Lee had nothing but respect for Muhammad Ali! He studied him intently… To the point of watching ALI’s ‘s boxing matches in a mirror so his left lead would look like a right hand forward stance (which Bruce used)
To be fair, Ali said (I saw the interview) "A boxer wouldn't stand a chance against a top martial artist." See my comment above, where heavyweight Joey Orbillo opines that Ali would lose to Lee in a real fight. I always wonder about that Robert Clouse book ... people on the set said Clouse disrespected the martial artists. Robert Wall said he went to Clouse's hotel room and slapped him. Look at Pat Burleson's interviews. At 230 lbs. he said Bruce threw him around with one arm. Look at just for play Joe Lewis grappled Ali to the ground. Or Ali's '[match' with the Japanese wrestler ... Ali's legs were so injured by kicks, he had to spend time in the hospital. If Ali couldn't avoid these 'sport' kicks, how could he avoid a real Bruce Lee kick? As Bruce said to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, "I could break your leg, and there's nothing you can do about it." (Kareem grabbed Bruce in a hug, "I was only joking, Bruce!"
I am far from a Bruce Lee fanboy but I have seen ple ty of interviews with him and read stuff he said. For what a huge figure he was he never comes off arrogant. He had a lot of ideas and was happy to talk about them when everybody, or a lot of people, wanted to listen. But that is a very natural reaction to suddenly being famous as a young person
Bruce Lee was full of himself that’s just a fact. He would actually hit stunt men when doing fight choreography, many people have said this. And Quentin never attacked his reputation. Bruce Lee was at the top of the game of course he was smug and full of himself
@@common7909 To be fair, that part is due to how he didn't understand film making. He didn't fully understand how you don't actually need to hit, or make contact with the other actors/stunt men in order to have a fighting scene. You just need to change the camera shooting angle in order to make it look like someone getting hit when the person is far from physical contact. This was what caused issues with Bruce Lee and the movie makers (producers and the lot). He thought they were pulling bs on his specific expertise part. But he later did had to admit he didn't know much about film making, the camera angle stuff. Other than that, Bruce Lee was quite humble and modest actually. Tarantino did him dirty on that. I reckon his view is biased as he's a movie maker.
For such a big thinker, this is a SUPER weird bias for Tarantino. With his lack of research, availability of opposing viewpoints, and refusal to apologize for his false assumptions i have to question his judgement outright altogether. Fantastic video. Great perspective.
THere are plenty of supposedly intelligent, smart and or educated people who are extremely biased and emotional thinkers on some subjects. You would be surprised how many are like that. They might be a genius in some subjects and areas but a total biased idiot and ignorant in other areas. It is good to never assume someone is more intelligent then they are. You will be disappointed
That because QT has already been bit by Wke Hollywood....my guess is this was his way of Pandering to the puppet masters. An attack on a strong masculine Icon like Bruce Lee must have gained him some points.
You're making the assumption that this video is perfectly accurate. As if it's not possible that the creator of this video is biased in another direction as well. And also, wtf would anyone apologize for making a movie that people choose to watch. No one has to believe what's in the movie. It's fiction.
@@ClassicFilmEnthusiast oh yeah I definitely put some trust in the creator. I did a little bit of check verification while I was watching and what he was saying appeared to be true. I didn't get into verifying all the stuff cause that's ridiculous. But if something he developed in his narrative is contradicted in the future I'll be much more wary of carrying this narrative ahead. The essence of documentaries is trusting the creator to give objective data through a subjective lens to save us all the time of having to do the research ourselves. If I didn't trust documentarians because I couldn't verify 100% of the data it would be a waste of time to even watch.
Agreed 👍 these kung fooy fan boys are so sad 😢 It's just a movie.... relax I train in martial arts and also coach kids and women in self defense. Martial arts is very useful but that doesn't mean the martial arts are some sacred religion that is absolved from anecdotes or charicature.
You are correct!! But then you have the nut riders of Bruce Lee that think he was the “greatest” which isn’t and will never be true. He just brought martial arts to the forefront for the world to see
@ObjectiveEthics You're missing the whole point. It's not about the martial arts is about the portrayal of an actual person and that wrong portrayal can give a false narrative on how someone is in real life. Unfortunately for many people films are things that become the one way people learn things. WWII happens because Hitler put out mass propaganda that the Jewish people are the reason for all of Germany suffering and losing the war and spreads his ideals that only white men and women with blue eyes are the right race and proceeds to send Germany on a road of world domination and mass genocide of the Jewish people. Media is very important the way people are portrayed in media are very important. Understanding the effects of what is shown and what is not shown is very important.
All of Bruce's students said he was untouchable, and all except one of them were golden gloves boxers, Judo champions, wrestlers, and Kenpo black belts when they met him.
Jim Kelly made that up. He only met Bruce on the set of ETD and never saw Bruce fight anyone, his claims dont fit the timelines of history. if you listen to how vague his comments are its telling...cant describe any details and cant name anyone.
It's even simpler than that; Tarantino's entire filmography is to shock people with the unexpected and outlandish; it's what made him famous; it's his signature. He just found out the hard way you don't disparage Bruce Lee.
I remember watching karate movies with my little brother on the weekends and discovering Bruce Lee. We didn’t know how famous he was. We didn’t know about his popularity. We just fell in love with them. We watched those karate movies thinking Bruce Lee was alive. We didn’t know he had died 10 years prior. When I discovered it, I cried like a baby. If you don’t think Bruce encountered bias and racism at that time, you’re nuts. To take his memory and his image, and humiliate him at the hands of, what could be, some of the people he suffered those bias from, and some of those struggles. This hurts as a fan.
They were not karate movies they were kung fu movies Jesus Christ kung fu kung fu kung fu not karate it was only one karate dude back then and it was Sonny Chiba.. 😂
Not karate. Gung Fu (Kung Fu as westerners know it). He mainly studied Wing Chun as a young man and went on to create Jeet Kune Do (Way Of The Intercepting Fist).
5:04 Gene Lebell did an interview after that movie came out, trying to shed some light on the truth. Gene said that he unexpectedly put Bruce into a firemans carry or something like that, just playing around, but afterwards, Gene and Bruce ended up training together to work on Bruce's grappling skills because Gene knew Bruce was lacking in that. So, according to Gene LeBell, that scene was very loosely based on the real, playful encounter between Gene and Bruce.
There have been friends of Gene who said he told a lot of untrue stories. For example, Gene said that "Bruce's school in Chinatown had tatami mats and smelled of incense." The real students there said there were no such mats or incense. Also, that Gene and Bruce didn't meet until many episodes after the first Green Hornet, and by that timeline, Gene couldn't have been called in to "teach the new kid some manners." Anyway, please see my comment above on Hayward Nishioka. He was younger than Bruce, and therefore much younger than LaBell ... likely Nishioka was better than Gene in sparring. Nishioka couldn't touch Bruce. I doubt if LaBell could touch Bruce, either. Gene said in Matt Polly email: Bruce was the best of his era. @@JubeiKibagamiFez
@@jakemay637 I know that Gene embellished his stories, but he said he caught Bruce by surprise, but then he ended up teaching Bruce grappling and ground fighting. I don't think the encounter was hostile in any way.... But, to be truthful, everything Bruce knew he learned from someone else and then refined all that he knew to develop Jeet Kune Do. I don't think there was any animosity between Bruce and Gene at all.
This is genuinely one of the worst takes I have ever heard, like if his movies weren’t incredible he wouldn’t have won 2 Oscar’s and gotten nominated for 6 not to mention his films are some of the most iconic movies to have ever touched a theater, and no jabs at Bruce Lee films there fun and good and ahead of their time but most of the basic some downs are good guy wins and the bad guy loses
@GhostStrawberry how the hell do you think Jamie Foxx is a terrible actor? His performance in that movie was incredible not to mention he won an Oscar for his role in Ray and played the best drill Sargent (in JarHead) I’ve seen since segment Hartman in Full metal Jacket, so If anything he’s one of the best actors of all time
In a biography, written by a friend of Bruce Lee; he briefly described what Bruce's friendship meant. He was very loyal. If you were sick, he would visit, until you were back on your feet. if you were down on the dumps he was there to cheer you up That always stuck with me.
I remember my ex army dad used to wake me up in the morning to join him for a run and exercise n I’d hate every second of it. After I watched the way of the dragon, my father didn’t have to tell me to wake up early or exercise it became a natural part of life. And this is true to many of the living martial arts legends today. He inspired so many of them like this from the childhood. His best contribution to the world is that he made physical exercise n martial arts look so cool that people would engage in them despite the discipline n labour it requires. Imagine the world of martial arts today without this phenomenon named Bruce Lee! 🎉🤘❤️❤️
I am old enough and have followed the career of Bruce Lee that he struck me as a humble guy, the way typical martial artists are. I mean if you know you can take life with just your bare hands and you are a human being, it humbles you. I know because my karate teacher also taught the secret service and was a pastor and was very humble. I have never liked Quentin Tarantino movies, they are incoherent. On the positive side of things, I am excited to know that Shannon Lee exists and is out there. It would be an honor to meet a descendant of Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee said that he picked up a lot of grappling technique from Gene LeBell. That sounds like a pretty friendly relationship one has with a colleague.
By the time they met, Bruce had trained with many grapplers, from his time in Seattle (19 or so) to his time in Hollywood. Many judo men were, for example impressed that Bruce even knew the names of the Japanese techniques. Of course, it's well known that much of Lee's training with his students was: "Come at me like a boxer, or a grappler, etc."
To anyone who defends the portrayal of Bruce Lee. Imagine this would be Muhammed Ali. Also in a fictional setting but historically majorly accurate era. In a context that is realistic for the time period. And have Tarantino make a ridiculous caricature out of him. Let’s see how the world would react then. Then you get the point.
Muhammad Ali was heavyweight champion of the world Bruce was a trainer/actor who's influence goes without speaking Both said they were the best in the world only one has proven it
@@stefanbas6181Well said. The same can be said of Jackie Chan, where Benny Urquidez claimed that Chan could be a world champion fighter if he trained. That's an honor in itself but of course Jackie is known for films and enjoys making movies. Lets be real, the movie industry was making people rich and famous--at least more than kickboxing at the time.
@@thatgayqueen2826 "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" I believe that was a quote by Iron Mike Tyson - I am a Bruce lee fan as well, but he was not a professional fighter in no way at all. Be consistent in your logic, QT didn't do jack to his legacy, if you think BL was a super human and could best ALL the professional fighter's (in the world) then you are worse off than what QT is being accused of. You're saying that the achievement of winning titles through public trials by COMBAT means less than a hypothetical fantasy??? What QT did was no different than what BL did, which was present fiction on film.
@@thisguy3500 - Actually world champions Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Mike Stone trained with Bruce and won every karate championship in the United States in their time. All of them said pound for pound Bruce was the fastest and best they had ever seen. Chuck has on occasion changed his statement but that was his ego talking.
Let’s not forget that Tarantino loves writing the n-word into his movies and often gives himself a reason to say it. Dude’s got some latent racist tendencies, but they’re the kind generally overlooked as reserved for “people from a certain era.” Thing is, though: he isn’t. I think dude’s just got some grievances he gets to air out because he makes interesting movies. He gets a pass, but should he really?
I think this scene is messed up because it tarnishes the image of a dead man, a legend that impacted the world of martial arts, helped gave birth to MMA and combat sport as we know it and had a huge influence on the movie industry as well. But Tarantino is definitely not a racist. He used the n-word in Pulp Fiction when he talked to Jules Winnfield’s friend Jimmie Dimmick, a caricature of a character. Then in Django which quiet literally takes place during black slavery. It is a bit silly to try to use that to label Tarantino as a “racist”. He has been casting black actors since the beginning of his career and maintains close friendships with all his cast members. Lastly, I find it a tad self-entitled to think we choose to give people a “pass” or not. If you enjoy a certain director, watch his work. If not, don’t. This whole cancel culture mind set is toxic, is it not? Not everything is racist just because we don’t like someone’s art.
I think you all don't get to choose how an artist creates. Bruce Lee was treated like every other person would . Quentin Tarantino makes great films that don't become the fake polished junk that consistently gets hustled
@@lightup6751you assume racism begins and ends with using the word in public (which, by the way, Tarantino has until he got shut down). You also assume that “liking” black people means you can’t be racist. Lots of slave owners “liked” their slaves. Lots of folk during Jim Crow “liked” black folk as long as they didn’t have to live/eat/go to school/share equality with them. And there are tons of examples of people that “liked” the black parent of their child, while hating their mixed-race offspring. So, yes, you’re giving him a pass, probably because it’s easiest for you and lets you feel comfortable consuming his work.
@@stefanbas6181DW Griffiths was considered one of the great pioneers of film for his seminal Birth of a Nation. “Art” is inherently subjective and in no way sacred.
Actually watched his movies before ever seeing a Bruce Lee movie...🤔 Is genX crying again over someone wrecking childhoods, as a millennial I'll just say, get over it champ.
I've always wondered why Tarantino never portrayed Chuck Norris in Once Upon A Time IN Hollywood, because like Bruce, Norris also worked with Sharon Tate in The Wrecking Crew.
It's weird tarantino never complained about the money he made using bruce lee's imagery for kill bill, the crazy 87 use masks identical to that of kato, he used the green hornet's soundtrack, uma thurman wore the yellow jumpsuit from game of death, the main characters use the 1 inch punch and on and on, also he never mentioned lee in all of these obvious references he simply stole his imagery to make money.
using inspiration from other icons isnt stealing, its showing respect to what they have given the world. dont think youll be willing to see it that way but go ahead and act like people are just stealing from each other. One inch punch was POPULARIZED by bruce.
@@FreedomDiaries1 i don't think you read my comment, tarantino used BRUCE LEE's imagery, his references are about bruce lee's works, not only kung fu's
@@mangopastor I said he can be a fan Without thinking he's kung fu jesus. Yes, he used his imagery.However this was his interpretation of him as a person. He likes his stuff but thinks he may not have been the best person. Separating the person from the artist/actor.
I've never taken anything Tarantino has done seriously including the scene in question. To me it's just part of the fairytale that he's weaving and not to be taken literally since none of it is claimed to be historical or biographical. Bruce is, was and always will be a legend no matter how anyone chooses to portray him.
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The problem here is that Tarantino is going around claiming in interviews that it is a portrayal of the “real” Bruce Lee confirmed by his research of the man.
He is a hater. When you are a big star loved as much as bruce is. You have haters. It is jealousy. He feels Bruce Lee doesn't deserve his popularity or mystic.
He made a film of REVISIONIST HISTORY! Bruce Lee was never intended to be the real Bruce Lee. Inglorious Basterds did the same thing. Django Unchained did the same thing. The film never claimed to be real, it is revisionist history and that is why he hasn’t apologized and doubles down.
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame Bruce Lee vs All would be a massacre. You don't even gotta go past the weight divisions do matter Bruce was a trainer and actor very influential person. Not a professional fighter move on
7:57 "tired of white men trying to tell me who Bruce Lee was" That statement is just as racist as the possibility of anyone trying to correlate Bruce Lee with Asian stereotypes. You do not get to call someone racist and then make statements about their skin color. Absolutely shameful and hypocritical.
TBF thats his daughter so emotion gets in the way but also she ment that it was Mostly Whites that saw her father as like that, considering it was the 60s its hardly a suprise really and she didn't really say it was purely because he was Asian but also because he did sometimes acted like a Jerk but not the disrespectful way Bruce was handled in the movie.
Great video! Thanks for making this. Tarantino claims to be such a Hollywood historian yet was a million miles off target with this scene. I'm sure if asked he'll say he's not racist but he certainly has some bias against Bruce Lee. He joins all the people who treated Bruce Lee, an American, like an "uppity" immigrant - even now in death.
**Bruce Lee** Is Not Here To Defend Himself Concerning This Negativity. But, One Thing Is Sure: **Bruce Lee** Is **Legendary** And A **Trailblazer** If He Were Alive Today, There Would Be **Silence**. ** No**Controversy**
What a horrible homage to a legend that died young, who inspired millions of men and opened the door to kung fu actors. And the fact that Quentin said this was based on research makes it even worse. Why would you portray him like that and even claim it was based on true stories? Even Brad was like "nah".
Tarantino says "It's just the fairytale story." So in Tarantino's fairytale, the most famous Asian Martial Artist and Movie Star of all time gets treated like a joke, whereas the white stunt guy that killed his wife helps saves the day. Got it...
i love how the only people who made it about race are those overly offended by bruce lees portrayal. also conveniently forgetting all the white people Tarantino has mocked including himself.
Yup disrespecting one person doesn't equal being bigoted even if its unwarranted, also he has made films before where he portrays US Antibellum Culture incredibly negatively even in the Hateful Eight where the Black Protagonist is depicted as kind of cruel and sleazy its justified against the people he was being cruel at as being far worse than him especially with what they did to his people and himself.@@ryanwood6754
Imagine how good Once Upon A Time In Hollywood would have been if he portrayed Bruce the way he really was, speaking respectfully of Muhammad Ali and Joe Lewis, giving his philosophical insight into the martial arts, and when challenged on a point by Cliff, then beating him easily, and Cliff asking him to teach him? Cut to a montage scene of Bruce training Cliff. The final fight scene could have been Cliff going full Bruce Lee on the Manson Gang!
Notice they only barely mention what Bruce said about Ali and focus on the character not beating cliff.. Even if the Bruce character had been respectful and not dominated in the fight they would claim it wasnt respectful of Bruce
@@cuzz63i mean.. he didn't do tournaments. The guy was fit though and knew a lot. Also has some grit for pushing into Western society after 1940 during that time period. Western society was not nice, forgiving, or welcoming. Bruce Lee would have to stand his own and was challenged plenty paving his way. Would he win? Knowledge, fitness, and having grit.. I wouldn't fight him.
Every move Bruce Lee makes on screen exudes power and beauty. He showcases the agility and strength of martial arts with finesse, making each performance memorable and unforgettable.
Again the “Bruce Lee” in his FICTIONAL film where a washed up actor and a stunt man who is also an amalgam of multiple people takes out the Manson family, you want to call for “respect” for “Bruce?” The “Bruce” in QTs film was not the real Bruce Lee. What is so hard to understand about that? Should the lady whose car that the FAKE stuntman Brad Pitt put Bruce into be upset that QT didn’t portray her with the proper respect? Were there any female Kiwi stunt wranglers in the 60s in Hollywood? Or maybe it was a FICTIONAL THING?? We all love Bruce Lee. I was a kid when he passed. I was also a karate student at the YMCA and a Saturday double feature “Chop Socky” movie kid. If I thought for one second that QT meant ill to Mr. Lee I would be with you and his family, but you are all wrong. A film full of fakes and you expect Bruce Lee’s part to be real? I know you won’t read this and will continue to feel the way you do so I am sorry.
Bruce Lee worked his @ss of to get to the height he achieved both as a martial artist and a film maker/movie star. For someone to come along and totally trash his character, his brilliance is to not appreciate the impact he made.
I believe tarantino wants to rewrite history in such a way that Bruce Lee is remembered as cartoon charecter and later on re-invented as white person out of spite , I read four pages of tarantinos outbiography and needed a shower all that ego stroking self engrandizing shows the lack charecter in him .
There's two statues of Bruce Lee out there in the world that will still be standing when we all die. Last time i checked, Quentin doesnt have any statues dedicated to his impact on humanity.
Ty ty ty. I was hoping Joe Rogan was gonna set him straight or let him know he didn't like that. But when he was a guest he stayed silent. Didn't even try to disagree with him. Made me look at him different. Ty again for this
@@err4071 I enjoy his work...for the most part. Sometimes his attempts to go over the top turn out cheesy like the final scenes of Django Unchained. However telling us all to suck a dick has lost him any respect I ever had for him
Admittedly, I was one of the few that said it was a dream sequence, because that's what it had appeared to be. In context of his interview with Joe Rogan and the book though, it seems intentional to create some controversey to get people to buy into what essentially was hear-say. The fight isn't what I thought silly though, it was the dialogue prior to it. Respect for bringing clarity to this debate. It's pretty conclusive that Tarantino was looking to knock him down a peg for who knows what reason. Jealousy? Envy? Hate for his ongoing celebrated status? Or to make money? Only he knows the truth.
I was practicing Tae Kwon Do when Bruce was still alive. This version of him is a grotesque parody. Tarantino just lost whatever small amount of respect I had left for him as a man.
Naw, Lee was an arrogant person. And Gene Lebell picked him up and carried him around the studio while he was screaming "put me down". If Tarantino put that in the movie his fans would have all had a hemorrhage
@@sargerules20 Yeah, people think with their emotions instead of logic. You are no different. You love Lee therefore he was the baddest man on the planet, at 135 pounds lol. Even though he only had one fight to his credit. And it wasn't Lebell. Lebell just toyed with Lee. Lee fought Wong Jack Man to a draw according to a book written by one of the 11 witnesses. The Book is called "showdown in Oakland." Give it a read if you actually want the truth about Lee. In the meantime if you think he fought other street fights show me the proof Sport :-)
I never saw the movie because I heard it's depiction of Bruce Lee was bad, then I looked up the scene and immediately checked out when the actor portraying Bruce had a physique nothing like him, moved nothing like him, and ultimately didn't even look like him. Going back in time I never enjoyed Kill Bill, I thought it was cool that they used the jumpsuit from Game of Death but still something about it really turned me off. Now I realise it was actually Quentin trying to associate that iconic jump suit with a different movie for a different generation. To perhaps tarnish or even diminish the spotlight on Bruce that it was he who wore it first (and better). Now after watching this video that might actually be true, and it's not a secret that Quentin is obsessed with race, so that might come into play also. The thing that makes this worse is that people who have never seen Bruce Lee in footage or any of his movies might see Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and form an opinion on him based on that, which is terrible. I remember the backlash Jason Scott Lee received for Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, but in my opinion he did fantastic, his tribute to Bruce's intensity and graceful movement is an achievement all by itself. Nobody else has come close since. Especially not the actor in this scene in mention. I'm glad people clapped back, it shows that his legacy is still as important now as it ever was, thanks for the video.
It's been mentioned more than once that Bruce struggled pulling his punches and kicks during enter the dragon because he was so used to full contact work with the Chinese stuntmen he had worked with in his earlier movies
To this day stunt performers will tell the hero actor to actually hit them when they're rolling cameras. They are tough folks and they want it to look good. They don't make a big deal out of it, it's why they get up in the morning.
And that is the thing right there. It would make sense that in the early beginnings of Bruce working with American stuntmen that they would be hit. And with him being so fast...someone was going to be hit. That in no way means/equates to Bruce Lee having no respect for them. It's still the same way today that in China and it's safe to say in general in Asian martial arts films that they are done full contact. Jackie Chan's style of film fighting is similar, but to give the appearance of full contact and it can be difficult for Western stuntmen to adapt to that kind of fighting.
It can be said that at least in his Chinese movies, Bruce was very good to his stuntmen. He insisted on having meals with them, and that he not be given special treatment. When he was in Hollywood, Stirling Silliphant hired him as fight coordinator for one of his films in the South (I think Tennessee)... and Bruce "proved" himself to the "two, tough big Caucasian cats" (Silliphant) "after Bruce kicked them into the pool, they came up Christians, and from that time on, they would've killed for him." @@ghost7524
Numerous close friends, including celebrities described Lee as a fierce and confident person, but also a humble and kind person who treated everyone fairly. I haven't heard anything that remotely resembles Tarantino's portrayal of him. I suppose there's no law in mocking anyone but certain things are just poor taste and character.
I really appreciate you covering this. I really didn’t appreciate what Tarantino did with Bruce Lee. It was very disgraceful. Shannon and her family have every right to be upset by it. I would be upset too if somebody portrayed my parents in a way that wasn’t true to who they were.
I am old enough to have read the interview with Lee that contains the Mohammad Ali quote that Tarentino misrepresented. I think it was in Black Belt or one of those mags and Lee NEVER said he could cripple The Champ. In response to a question about Ali, what Lee he said was something like 'Ali's fist is as big as my head. I would have to go for his knees.' Now that's not the exact quotes, it's been 45 years or so, but that's pretty close. It was basically a joke. Lee had nothing but respect for The Champ. He would watch films of Ali's fights over and over to study his movements and technique, some of which he would incorporate into his own fighting style. What Tarentino did was utter disrespect and his response to 'suck my....' shows was a classless douche he really is. But, hey, he's done some great films. If not the Lee scene "Once Upon A Time..." would be a fave.
Quentin is good at making the bad and low down people look cool. The good and kind he spits on them with artistic strokes to make them look like uninteresting geeks. He strips out the very essence of love and respect from life and replaces it with degradation humiliation and perversion but does it in a way which one thinks that to dislike it would be close minded. It’s all part of the program to dumb us up and keep us asleep.
Idolizing is akin to sleeping. Look at how many do this today with celebrity politicians world wide. There are many incredible people who's achievements will be forgotten in time by the masses, yet I cannot think of one great achievement from Bruce Lee. His ego was on full display in the Ip Man films and that's coming from Chinese directors. He fit in well with Hollywood as someone that was arrogant--not at all a bad person but full of himself. As someone else pointed out Muhammad Ali was similarly a big talker but he at least proved himself, until he got put in his place by Frazier anyway.
@@thisguy3500you are down right ignorant. The Ip Man films were not based on Bruce Lee and you are confusing arrogance with seriousness, humbleness and honor.
Jim Brown was supposed to be the actor Cliff fought then he switched it to Bruce Lee. So he wanted to have one of the icons beat up. He knows that if he had used an icon like John Wayne he would have had a problem. If you pay attention to the movie he slid in a lot. He definitely has a problem.
Thanks for the video. When I saw the movie, I thought that it was simply an alternate reality, since the ending of the story is a fantasy. I was not that upset by the scene. I think Tarantino really shot himself in the foot by doubling down on sounding like he had based it on some "truth" though. No one would disrespect Ali, so I'm not sure what Tarantino was thinking, other than wanting to be a troll for Bruce Lee fans.
On point! The movie is an alternate reality, so anything goes! It’s like the multiverse or the What If comics! What if Bruce was a douche? What if a stuntman beat him? What if that stuntman went on to stop the Manson family murders? What if someone hadn’t turned in front of James Dean while he was driving 100 mph? Would Paul Newman have had a career if not? It’s just an amusing mental exercise, not to be confused with reality. People need to lighten up, because Tarantino was just having fun. Unfortunately, he underestimated the Lee fan base, and his ego won’t let him just say “I’M SORRY!”
Super insightful. I love the addition to perspectives and comedy. I thought it was going to be another remastered video but… I see you had more in store for us. Awesome
Thank you for making this brilliant video and clearing it up, this is one of the best made videos. In the world of combat sports before UFC mma every martail artists wanted to challange and test other martial artists espically to who were famous. So Bruce had to deal a lot of this. There is a reason everyone loved Bruce Lee. Also Gene never fought Segal, Segal believed he couldn't be chocked so he let Gene put a choke hold on him but ppl think Gene beat Segal and put him in a choke hold.
Bruce Lee in his real comment about Ali is correct. If he can use his feet, Ali might be screwed (and I think that would be the case since Ali had no idea on how to deal with kicks, even to his legs - source: watch the fight in Japan with Inoki - who had sloppy kicks on the ground.) Where Ali's legs were messed up from the sloppy kicks, let alone kicks and side kicks to the knee by Bruce Lee... But his comment about fist size and size in general is that: limit his tools with rules in the boxing ring and he's likely not going to do well against Ali based on size/weight alone... Nothing wrong with Bruce's assessment of the situation. It's actually logical and accurate.
That was really well done. You kept things strait forward, and honest. And I totally agree with Shannon. That jerk owes her an apology. His actions further shows the arrogance of Hollywood.
You realize you're telling someone to apologize for having an opinion. QT could turn it around and say you have to apologize for assuming you know everything about him.
The young brother sparring with Ho Chung -Tao at 12:29 his name is Carl Scott. From what I seen from him in those movies with Billy Chong ( I don't know his original name, He goes by Willy Dozan now) He was pretty damn good. Could you do a video about Carl Scott? A little more about his life and career in movies? To me he's a guy that doesn't get enough shine. I love your channel and keep up the good work!👍
Bruce Lee never said that Muhammad Ali would kill him & I've watched his interviews in referenced to Ali bigger hands. He's never talked like this, & as for fighting in the streets he said that he believed in fighting dirty. This statement was by someone who used the book Making of Enter The Dragon by Robert Clouse who directed the movie. However, in IMDB it doesn't mention him writing the book Making of Enter The Dragon. Edit Overall your video is good & you've done amazing research.
I saw a interview a long time ago. Where Quentin Tarantino. Said he wasn't a Bruce Lee fan. He was a sonny Shiba fan. And didn't understand why people loved Bruce Lee more than sonny Shiba.
I can agree that the best way to have handled the situation is to simply explain the portrayal as "necessary for the movie". Cliff needed to be the sympathetic character in that scene, so having Bruce act all arrogant about his fighting abilities was necessary because nobody would have liked to see Brad Pitt beat up (or even fight evenly with) a martial arts legend otherwise. So making Bruce the kinda guy you want to see eat a slice of humble pie makes sense. As someone who constantly has to reality-check Bruce Lee fans who think his speed and power transcend weight classes, and his martial arts skills are unmatched even by the most accomplished professional MMA fighters, I have no problem seeing Lee portrayed in that way. And I still believe that, outside of Bruce's friends and family, the "controversy" connected with this scene has remained almost entirely within the bubble of die-hard Bruce Lee fanboys. But I do agree that Quentin's explanations afterward were at best misunderstandings and, at worst, lies.
I actually think that the issue concerns most people familiar with Bruce Lee, not just die hard fans. What happened here is that an iconic figure’s image was tarnished. Bruce Lee wasn’t a UFC fighter. But he was a martial artist, a pioneer for the MMA and therefor the UFC, an insightful philosopher and played a huge role in getting martial arts to the rest of the world as well as having a tremendous influence as an action actor on the movie industry. Many forget this fact simply because he was Asian and Asian martial arts was rather considered exotic at the time but he actually influenced the whole hero vs rest of the world formula that would pave the way for Stallone, Schwarzenegger and of course, Jackie Chan. Bruce Lee is dead. He died only 32. He has no chance to defend himself on this matter. But he changed the world in the realms or martial arts and MMA with his non traditional approach and left a huge mark on cinema. This was no different than Tarantino or any director tarnishing the image of Muhammad Ali. Only that the backlash would have been much more serious. At the end of the day it’s fiction. But there is common decency and respect for such historical figures especially someone with such a positive and humbling world view. Tarantino disrespected a legend here. Not the end of the world. But I can see why so many people, from filmmakers and actors to UFC athletes and martial artist world wide have an issue here
@@lightup6751 Exactly! If QT really wanted to diss Bruce Lee, he could have gone down so many other paths, but he chose this. Bruce of course, was near-sighted; when he applied to join the US Army he was turned down, deemed to be physically unfit (?), and, according to his own siblings, Phoebe and Robert Lee, he could neither swim nor ride a bicycle. So tentatively, he set out to be the best he could be elsewhere, and he was. Professional athletes develop their fast-twitch muscle fibers (which occur naturally in the large primates) to different degrees; so I can surmise that Bruce, through his training, developed his fast-twitch muscle fibers to a degree no one else had (or has since); that would explain the incredible feats he was able to achieve.
I don’t think “stories from white men” is a good argument for Shannon. I get that topic will get anyone on your side these days but I honestly don’t think that had anything to do with anyone thinking Bruce was arrogant. I’ve read Matthew Polly’s book on Bruce and I think anyone regardless of race could come up with that assumption just by the way Bruce handled certain situations. That being said I’m not defending Tarantino either, I wasn’t a fan of his Bruce portrayal but I did laugh when I first saw it and I pretty much worshipped the man for half my life. I encourage any big fan of Bruce to read Matthew Polly’s book. Very eye opening for me. Still a huge Bruce Lee fan but it did put him on a more human level for me. Which is fine.
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The movie's semantic is not for literally true, but figurative real instead. Every thing happens to real people wasn't historically accurate, whereas every representative of certain people was in the way it was. That's why the movie's name and why it is in an artistic fashion. Because it is a movie about a tragic history and it has to be performed in a Quentin's entertaining way. Therefore when Bruce Lee meets a stuntman played by Brad Pit, Bruce Lee has to lose because it is not historically accurate and Brad's stuntman win because stuntmen are always the true badass. Quentin respects his own movie language, therefore the scene has to go that way, and he did.
Tarantino is a XENOPHOBE with an American superiority complex mixed in, from my brief analysis, that is what's going on.
Him saying Bruce Lee said this and that about the "American" stuntmen when coupled together with his campaign to get rid of non-American actors pretty much exposes what's going on in his head, The dude can't take a foreigner like Bruce Lee (he was born in California but raised in Hong Kong) outshining real 'MERICANS and looked to destroy his image.
This mirrors the struggle of Bruce Lee when he came to America, dealing with American nativist like Tarantino and seemingly, Samuel L.
It just so happens that Tarantino's favorite black person, Sam L, seems to share this Xenophobia with Tarantino, remember when Sam L was going after them black British actors a lil while back. This might be why Sam L and Tarantino are such buddies, Sam L was either always this way or Samuel L adopted it from Tarantino. lol
We ALL Know those masters aren't worth anything they claim to be, too many videos of them getting embarrassed right here on RUclips. 99.999999% of the so-called masters cannot fight. Too many videos PROVE that.
Dude your dedication to thoroughly defend Bruce Lee is Pulitzer worthy.
Thank you!
Bruce made a great quote: If everyone loved there neighbour nobody would be without help.
Jesus Lee 😂😂😂😂
@@matthewlogan4267 I wonder how being crucified comes into play with Jesus Lee.
I like that one! Where did you find it?
@thegladve I guess getting crucified by eggrolls or fortune cookies naild into his rist or palms and feet 😑😑😑😑🇨🇳
@@matthewlogan4267 guess so.
There's an interview with Jackie Chan where he says Bruce Lee hit him by accident and stopped filming to apologize to him personally. Tarantino is full of it.
I heard that too. I believe that is a more accurate perspective of what Bruce was about. A warrior without ego. 👊☯️👊
That's a lie, he did not stop filming. They ended the scene, he then went to make sure Jackie was ok. Y'all mfs can't face truth can y'all
@@rosehippyguy3402you're just assuming
@@macrognsqd you are assuming, that I am assuming 🤷♂️
@@macrognsqd He checked on him to make sure he was okay, that is what shows his character. In movies, It is normal to keep filming even when someone got hit, specially in chinese movies. Jackie chan himself kept many shots running where he injured himself.
I know it's a fictional movie, but the problem is that Tarantino is actually convinced that Bruce acted that way in real life, which is a false representation...
Do you know Bruce Lee
@@Blackey95 No, but neither did Tarantino. I'm going by the many people who knew him very well, and it doesn't fit in with Tarantino's description.
@@jdemarco"Pop a cool 5,000mg of Aspirin and Ketamine and do 10,000 pushups" -Bruce Lee
@@joeh5538 No problem
@@jdemarcoso you didnt know him either you're just yapping
Mistakes are always forgivable , if one has the courage to admit them...
Bruce Lee
Right, if Tarantino did that wrong so and any other, should publicly apologize to fans and Bruce lee family and friends.
he accepts no wrong doing because it's his art...he must be staunch he is not going to backtrack on anything he has envisioned and created that would be weak and confused
@@sasa-ix9yd That my friend I understand deeply, unfortunately, he has envisioned what it is art only in his mind, thanks for commenting.
Who'd he plagiarise that quote from.
😢What a person, what a character. Missed forever. 😞
I'm just a white guy from the UK who only knows about Bruce from books, magazine's,, watching interviews and documentaries. However, what keeps coming across is what a great person he was who thought a great deal about other people and who wanted to make us better people.
Ok...
Reading watching interviews and documentaries shows you're FOCUSED and not likely prone to misinformation. Example: One comment said, " Bruce never taught martial arts as an adult" I replied, watch a documentary or read up! Anyway as far as race, I'm Filipino and do Kali. It was the "white guys" that sat me down and went over the drills. The others were more into favoritism and Social Issues. I too had to read and watch interviews.
That is precisely why he is no longer with us. When you don't go along in Hollywood you're out. If they think you'll talk...... You do the math.
I'm pretty sure he cheated on his wife 🤔 If that's true i'm not saying he was the worst guy in history not at all but he definitely wasn't a great guy 🤷🏻♀️ Personally I think it's a good thing to bring up any faults a famous person has because it makes them look like what they are/were.. human and not some perfect inhuman god.
Yeah I agree with you. I got DVD 📀 here I does watch sometimes, he never tried to be top guy on the list. He was a good fighter though and not only teach but learn also from his students and friends. He was totally different from the other guys these days.
He got Bruce mixed up with Steven Seagal.
You deserve 1000 likes….2 real I guess. Peace!
Lol , Damm right .
😂😂😂
Not by much. Bruce was skilled but also a poser. He just trained to look good on film.
Don't know much about Seagal, but first impressions made me think he's a liar.
If Brad Pitt refused to go along with the original script because of his friendship with Brandon Lee, Respect.
I think there is reason these actors are chosen for ROLES in movies who fits better in the picture story they telling us
Huh?? Brad Pitt DID go along with the "original script". Why do you think there is controversy at all with what Tarantino did? The fact that Brad Pitt was friends with Brandon Lee shows that he is actually worse than Tarantino!
@@NomadFlow watch the video
@@ameddayr You should take your own advice and watch the video yourself because nothing in this video goes against what I said.
@@NomadFlow the video states clearly that the scene was originally intended to play out differently. so the original script differed from what we got on screen.
In my opinion, Quentin Tarantino is a great filmmaker, but Quentin is no martial artist, has never met or sparred with Bruce Lee, and should not comment on Bruce's abilities with no qualifications to judge.
And I agree that Quentin Tarantino is being rude by insulting people who disagree with Tarantino's portrayal.
@jpssteveshanahan9572 🤣🤣🤣
It makes me wonder if that was Mr. Tarantino's agenda? Perhaps he portrayed Bruce Lee like that to get a rise to promote his film. Anyone who's did even a little reading on the life of Bruce Lee knows. Still, honestly I didn't like his portrayal. It was disappointing to see my hero portrayed the way he was in that film. I was looking forward to his part in the film since I read that Bruce was a good friend of the actress and showed regret that he couldn't be there to protect her. In any case, Tarantino is a great film maker but this one isn't one I'd watch again.
@Piyesis71 that could be true. In this social mass media age, a strong argument can be made that is no longer any such thing as career-ending bad publicity. Or at least, that the standard for what qualifies as "career-ending bad publicity" has been raised into the clouds. 🤣🤣🤣
What’s makes a person qualified
Jackie Chan, himself, said Bruce was VERY concious of the idea of hitting someone and didn't like to do it, said Bruce was very apologetic about it.
Tarentino picks and chooses what he pays attention to. Tarentino has also invested SO much time in being this hardcore Hollywood rebel, it's tough for him to back off. He's always had this "I'll do it my way" attitude and his head has gotten bigger than his actual fame and skill.
nuff said?
You are so right - can't stand the creep !
Unless they were stunt men. Dude was know for bullying stunt men to the point they didn’t wanna work with him.
@@harlem4693 he may have been that way on the set of the Green Hornet, but I don't believe there was ever any malicious intent on Bruces' part at all.
His lack of experience in 'selling' a punch or kick is why Gene Labell was brought in. He put Bruce in his place, and to his credit, Bruce learned from the experience. I highly doubt that Bruce ever set out to deliberately hurt someone on any of his subsequent pictures, although injuries did undoubtedly occur.
It's just part and parcel of the profession stunt guys find themselves in.
Bruce was very highly thought of by the extras on his movies, opting to have his meals with them and train them, rather than act the big star.
He does have a pretty big head, for real. Look at the size of that thing.
Quentin said "Bruce didn't respect American stunt men and was always hitting them to make the fights look real". Half true. Here is the truth. Bruce had no problem with the American stunt men. People get tagged or hit during scenes. Not out of disrespect but to make the hits look real. They were not full force hits. It was the way they filmed in Hong Kong. I saw in interview with Cynthia Rothrock, and she spoke about the differences between American and Hong Kong stunt work.
It really came down to different styles of stunt work. Nothing to do with not respecting American stunt men.
This.
Jackie Chan also said that in Hong Kong they just used to actually hit the stunt men, it happened to Jackie, it happened to Bruce, and it was just a part of the Hong Kong martial arts culture.
Jackie even spoke about how he had to train his own US stuntmen again to bring them up to standard
The first time I heard about this was back in 1995, when I saw a behind the scenes look at the movie Mortal Kombat. In it, Robin Shou, who played Liu Kang, asked Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa, who played Shang Tsung, if he could hit him with controlled force during their fight scene, to make a specific punch look better on film. Cary agreed, and Robin hit him while they filmed their fight scene. After I heard that, I began to understand that this was a thing in Hong Kong cinema, and that made me respect the actors and stunt men even more, because they were willing to take hits for the benefit of the film.
The physical contact is similar to when one is training with a partner at the dojo/gym LIGHT contact. You make contact with your partner to simulate that your hit did land, but you hold back the follow through so as to cause no pain or bruising.
@@aliasart7485 It depends though, Chinese and Hong Kong stuntmen were known for being pretty heavy handed, that's just how they were trained
Bruce Lee wasn't just an asshole... He's Inspired millions of people from beyond the grave. He wasn't just some arrogant karate star! He was a perfectionist and a pioneer! Think about the times he lived in. Couldn't have been easy being a Chinese immigrant turned mega movie superstar! Especially in Hollywood during the 60s. He was confident and capable! Plus he was very philosophical ! Bruce is and always will be a Legend
Kung Fu not karate waattaaa 👊☯️😜
I'm half Chinese on my dad's side. He used to tell me stories about how his school bus driver when he was a kid used to ridicule him for being Chinese.
@@jmk0512 quarter Chinese here mum's side rest Maori from Aotearoa New Zealand I was teased also at school
@simonpathomas4421 I'm sorry to hear that. I was in high school in the 1990s I never got teased for being Chinese at that time I was bullied and regularly physically assaulted over my physical disability my leg was amputated when I was eight due to cancer. It wasn't until Donald Trump ran for office that I began to receive hate for my Chinese heritage. I grew up thinking with the exception of a corrupt police force and others that the US was past that barbaric behavior. I was so wrong.
Quinton terentino and the making of One of his best movies ever "DJANGO" Let's him off the hook for any type of racism... Even though the movie is banned here in florida 😅...
I can understand the effort to show how badass the fictional Cliff Booth is… but the disrespect was too much
I mean Bruce Lee was know for being disrespectful to stun men to the point people would refuse to work with him so the scene kinda makes sense
Yep. He could just have some younger guys making fun of Cliff and when he answers back they pick a fight with him and he beats them up. Same effect.
Yes Booth was a badass but I am willing to bet he would be the first to call out this scene
Bruce Lee is iconic just the fact that he is the main reason why martial arts became so popular
Martial arts did not become popular because of Bruce Lee. Violence made martial arts popular.
@@stefanschleps8758 BRUCE LEE MADE IT POPULAR.
@@stefanschleps8758 martial arts core values was to to avoid violence and not cause it but to be prepared to defend against others who use violence against you. And yes he popularized I will say eastern martial arts as boxing and wrestling which is western unarmed martial arts . Judo, ninjutsu, karate and Kung fu which was lumped into one Chinese martial arts no matter what style. David Carradine spread it also in the TV show Kung Fu in 1972
So we can blame Bruce Lee for all the McDojo's out there?
@@lostboy8084if you haven't watched it, watch Dragon, a Bruce Lee Story. In it they state that Bruce Lee pitched the idea for the show and himself as the lead character.
It's unreal how many people saw this movie and believed it as all being accurate and truthful.
Ironic, is it? 😂
Yeah you would think more people would realize hollywood is fantasy and inaccurate. I thought that was common knowledge now a days.
No one thought it was real, but it is disrespectful to a real person.
@@Wordsareprayers Quentin Tarantino lampoons several real life people in some of his movies, Adolf Hitler, for example in Inglorious Bastards, this movie is no different. It wasn't a documentary about Bruce Lee and you absolutely have to know that, as well as how this movie ends versus what really happened to the Sharon Tate and the Manson Family as well?
@@Wordsareprayers having a fight to a draw with a fictional character who is suppose to be a former Green beret that specialized in close quarters combat is disrespectful? yes he was based on some amalgam of real stuntmen but the character written was superior to the stuntmen he was inspired by. Tarantino's only mistake was how he responded, he should have just said it was imaginary fight with a fictional character and leave it at that.
Usually people who act arrogantly - nobody wants to work with them. He wouldn't have so many friends and people come to his funeral if he was arrogant like that.
Cry about it. Your idol got joked about and disrespected. What you gon do about? Absolutely nothing but complain. Nobody believing in stupid myths.
@@JustChill-zd4ibyou're literally crying about it
@@JustChill-zd4ibYou should listen to your own advice, "JustChill".
@@JustChill-zd4ib Your username is JustChill, yet here you are crying about it.
Hypocrite, much?
Lmao are you serious? Most of Hollywood is arrogant, self righteous people lol.
Planet of the Apes, Dinosaurs, comic books & Bruce Lee are all cherished memories of my childhood.
You could be me, except for the comic books, lol
Awesome comment mane real deep I hear you
From the ghettos - Bruce Lee is a hero to the world! Sad part about Quentin making this statement/proof appears to defame Bruce.
True bios contain stories from ALL sides. This was biased rubbish. Is that the term used in Engand😂?!
Tarantino are ya jealous? Wanna rewrite the history or a man loved by all races?
Don't forget the disaster movies.
come on, man. we are still talking about bruce since his passing. that says everything.
Small minds talk about people.
Good minds talk about events.
Great minds talk about ideals and principles.
That says everything!
Yup! It is Bruce who can truly say : I SHOOK UP THE WORLD!
That says a lot how people find an idol and elevate it into status of legend without critically questioning whether or not it makes sense. People never stop proving how stupid and gullible they are.
@@JustChill-zd4ib 100%.
All I have to say regarding Quentin Tarantino's ridiculous, untrue and very disrespectful portrayal of Bruce Lee in his film "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is that people will never forget Bruce Lee, even after the best of Quentin Tarantino's films are long forgotten. Although Quentin Tarantino has his own unique and remarkable style of filmmaking (and has marked Cinematic History in his own right), he would never have been able to make Kill Bill 1+2 without the strong influence of Hong Kong and Japanese Cinema to Western audiences, of which Bruce Lee was a major part. So, instead of making a mockery of a martial genius icon like Bruce Lee, perhaps Tarantino should be making a "hommage" to him. Although a Filmmaker should have the right to freely express himself within his work, Shannon Lee is absolutely right in defending Bruce's image, not only as his daughter, but also on behalf of the millions of Bruce Lee fans and martial artists throughout the World. Mr. Tarantino, I certainly hope that your next film is better, and definitely more respectful of other Cinematic icons that are eternal, timeless, and much bigger than yourself.....RESPECT!
He likes Bruce it was just cliff was a stunt man a Bruce was known for being a bully to stunt men. So the scene is somewhat accurate at least with how Bruce treats certain people
The portrayal is ridiculously exaggerated, but it's accurate. Two things can be correct at the same time.
No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie. It was shameful, and it pissed me off as a lifelong fan of Bruce. I'm a 74 year old Black woman from Chicago. I remember the impact Bruce had on the world of every color. It was amazing just how fast we fell in love with not just the martial artist but the man himself. Tarantino 's movie disrespected Bruce and should be addressed. We love you still, Bruce, even after all these years. That will NEVER change. ❤❤
True Amen. Bruce wasn't perfect personally, but his positive qualities remain inspirational to this day. The more I learn about the real guy, the more I respect him, flaws and all.
Tarantino is a creep, period.
We ALL loved Bruce Lee in the 70's.
The man is a legend, and we're still talking about him.
@@rdred8693 Tarantino movie is the kinda of movie you watch for the satire. He portraited all his fetishism in his movie so we can't says much about him besides the fact he was a pervert creep and a great director. This movie is pure comedy an alternative world in any possible means from the real events. The only period bruce lee was maybe an asshole was in his debuts, pretty much when he was a teenager, inexperienced in martial art, I believe Tarantino's "research" come from that. But in this scene he was an adult accomplished master, and even the supposed victim of his tyranny how was the real Cliff says that's bullshit😂. I don't even know how someone is able to watch a Tarantino's movie and say "facts🤓"
"No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie."
Actually, his friends have been saying he was cocky all along. And, this quote could apply to any of Bruce's movies.
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Mr Lee was a gift for all of us to marvel over ... respect is due... period. A true legend. The first avenger...
RDJ aka Iron Man wears Bruce Lee shirts in his movies and real life 😁
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I think Tarantino really screwed up on his representation of Bruce Lee. I'd wish he was smart enough to realize that and man enough to apologize for it.
But he’s not man enough. Just a scrub
Bruce Lee gets so much respect that I pretty much agree with the "suck a dick" response. The world should be able to handle this ONE less-than-godly portrayal like adults. I thought it was meant to be a comedic twist on our expectations until the QT interviews, so yeah he might just be bad at research. But it should be noted that this youtube video is making it sound like QT is saying "suck a dick" to members of the Lee family when he's specifically making an exception for them.
“ Look at my hand… That’s a Chinese hand. He’d kill me.!”
Bruce Lee had nothing but respect for Muhammad Ali! He studied him intently… To the point of watching ALI’s ‘s boxing matches in a mirror so his left lead would look like a right hand forward stance (which Bruce used)
To be fair, Ali said (I saw the interview) "A boxer wouldn't stand a chance against a top martial artist." See my comment above, where heavyweight Joey Orbillo opines that Ali would lose to Lee in a real fight. I always wonder about that Robert Clouse book ... people on the set said Clouse disrespected the martial artists. Robert Wall said he went to Clouse's hotel room and slapped him. Look at Pat Burleson's interviews. At 230 lbs. he said Bruce threw him around with one arm. Look at just for play Joe Lewis grappled Ali to the ground. Or Ali's '[match' with the Japanese wrestler ... Ali's legs were so injured by kicks, he had to spend time in the hospital. If Ali couldn't avoid these 'sport' kicks, how could he avoid a real Bruce Lee kick? As Bruce said to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, "I could break your leg, and there's nothing you can do about it." (Kareem grabbed Bruce in a hug, "I was only joking, Bruce!"
I am far from a Bruce Lee fanboy but I have seen ple ty of interviews with him and read stuff he said. For what a huge figure he was he never comes off arrogant. He had a lot of ideas and was happy to talk about them when everybody, or a lot of people, wanted to listen. But that is a very natural reaction to suddenly being famous as a young person
plenty
he was arrogant when younger
Easy to tell from his mannerisms in interviews how arrogant he was.
@@mariogutierrez4989 He had to be borderline arrogant to go from nothing to mega star.
Attacking a dead man reputation is just wrong.
Thinking dead people are always perfect without any flaws is far worst...
says the same person who will say "hitler" every time he thinks it will buy him liberal points
@ididnothitleritisnottrueit2362 You should have a Yoda avatar to go with your grammar.
Bruce Lee was full of himself that’s just a fact. He would actually hit stunt men when doing fight choreography, many people have said this. And Quentin never attacked his reputation. Bruce Lee was at the top of the game of course he was smug and full of himself
@@common7909
To be fair, that part is due to how he didn't understand film making. He didn't fully understand how you don't actually need to hit, or make contact with the other actors/stunt men in order to have a fighting scene. You just need to change the camera shooting angle in order to make it look like someone getting hit when the person is far from physical contact.
This was what caused issues with Bruce Lee and the movie makers (producers and the lot). He thought they were pulling bs on his specific expertise part. But he later did had to admit he didn't know much about film making, the camera angle stuff.
Other than that, Bruce Lee was quite humble and modest actually. Tarantino did him dirty on that. I reckon his view is biased as he's a movie maker.
For such a big thinker, this is a SUPER weird bias for Tarantino. With his lack of research, availability of opposing viewpoints, and refusal to apologize for his false assumptions i have to question his judgement outright altogether.
Fantastic video. Great perspective.
THere are plenty of supposedly intelligent, smart and or educated people who are extremely biased and emotional thinkers on some subjects. You would be surprised how many are like that. They might be a genius in some subjects and areas but a total biased idiot and ignorant in other areas.
It is good to never assume someone is more intelligent then they are. You will be disappointed
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame at this point I've learned that being informed is the superpower, and its not the power of the processor.
That because QT has already been bit by Wke Hollywood....my guess is this was his way of Pandering to the puppet masters. An attack on a strong masculine Icon like Bruce Lee must have gained him some points.
You're making the assumption that this video is perfectly accurate. As if it's not possible that the creator of this video is biased in another direction as well. And also, wtf would anyone apologize for making a movie that people choose to watch. No one has to believe what's in the movie. It's fiction.
@@ClassicFilmEnthusiast oh yeah I definitely put some trust in the creator. I did a little bit of check verification while I was watching and what he was saying appeared to be true. I didn't get into verifying all the stuff cause that's ridiculous. But if something he developed in his narrative is contradicted in the future I'll be much more wary of carrying this narrative ahead.
The essence of documentaries is trusting the creator to give objective data through a subjective lens to save us all the time of having to do the research ourselves. If I didn't trust documentarians because I couldn't verify 100% of the data it would be a waste of time to even watch.
From what Ive read on Bruce Lee and his character , I believe if he were alive today he would say to everyone, "Calm down, it's just a movie."
No he wouldn’t.
Agreed 👍 these kung fooy fan boys are so sad 😢 It's just a movie.... relax
I train in martial arts and also coach kids and women in self defense. Martial arts is very useful but that doesn't mean the martial arts are some sacred religion that is absolved from anecdotes or charicature.
@@tonywright9906
You're right. He'd be more likely to want to fight QT.
You are correct!! But then you have the nut riders of Bruce Lee that think he was the “greatest” which isn’t and will never be true. He just brought martial arts to the forefront for the world to see
@ObjectiveEthics You're missing the whole point. It's not about the martial arts is about the portrayal of an actual person and that wrong portrayal can give a false narrative on how someone is in real life. Unfortunately for many people films are things that become the one way people learn things. WWII happens because Hitler put out mass propaganda that the Jewish people are the reason for all of Germany suffering and losing the war and spreads his ideals that only white men and women with blue eyes are the right race and proceeds to send Germany on a road of world domination and mass genocide of the Jewish people. Media is very important the way people are portrayed in media are very important. Understanding the effects of what is shown and what is not shown is very important.
Well Quentin, i think I'll rather trust the opinion of respected professional fighters and vintage martial artists who ACTUALLY trained with him 😂😂
Jim Kelly once said that Bruce Lee was untouchable: he remains untouchable.
Gervonte Davis would destroy Bruce Lee in a street fight.
All of Bruce's students said he was untouchable, and all except one of them were golden gloves boxers, Judo champions, wrestlers, and Kenpo black belts when they met him.
Jim Kelly made that up. He only met Bruce on the set of ETD and never saw Bruce fight anyone, his claims dont fit the timelines of history.
if you listen to how vague his comments are its telling...cant describe any details and cant name anyone.
@@seanwoods5943 MAYBE IN YOUR TINY MIND HE WOULD!
@@seanwoods5943 Gervonte Davis would hit the pavement in 0.5 seconds.
It's even simpler than that; Tarantino's entire filmography is to shock people with the unexpected and outlandish; it's what made him famous; it's his signature. He just found out the hard way you don't disparage Bruce Lee.
They didn't have to speed up the camera, they had to slow it lol.
Doing that about a dead guy who can't defend himself is a low move
@@shredd5705 I agree.
@@SonOfVenus92494 I think I replied under the wrong commeny by accident lol. But yeah I think you knew what I mean
I remember watching karate movies with my little brother on the weekends and discovering Bruce Lee. We didn’t know how famous he was. We didn’t know about his popularity. We just fell in love with them. We watched those karate movies thinking Bruce Lee was alive. We didn’t know he had died 10 years prior. When I discovered it, I cried like a baby.
If you don’t think Bruce encountered bias and racism at that time, you’re nuts. To take his memory and his image, and humiliate him at the hands of, what could be, some of the people he suffered those bias from, and some of those struggles. This hurts as a fan.
They were not karate movies they were kung fu movies Jesus Christ kung fu kung fu kung fu not karate it was only one karate dude back then and it was Sonny Chiba.. 😂
@@KingCrazealmighty360 That’s right. I stand corrected - kung fu.
@nicholasgreen339 shut up
Not karate. Gung Fu (Kung Fu as westerners know it). He mainly studied Wing Chun as a young man and went on to create Jeet Kune Do (Way Of The Intercepting Fist).
5:04 Gene Lebell did an interview after that movie came out, trying to shed some light on the truth. Gene said that he unexpectedly put Bruce into a firemans carry or something like that, just playing around, but afterwards, Gene and Bruce ended up training together to work on Bruce's grappling skills because Gene knew Bruce was lacking in that. So, according to Gene LeBell, that scene was very loosely based on the real, playful encounter between Gene and Bruce.
that is true I also herd it was over a comment bruce said about someone that gene was not happy about
@@fefferofhossen I think Gene said Bruce was talking trash, but it's been a while since I saw that interview.
There have been friends of Gene who said he told a lot of untrue stories. For example, Gene said that "Bruce's school in Chinatown had tatami mats and smelled of incense." The real students there said there were no such mats or incense. Also, that Gene and Bruce didn't meet until many episodes after the first Green Hornet, and by that timeline, Gene couldn't have been called in to "teach the new kid some manners." Anyway, please see my comment above on Hayward Nishioka. He was younger than Bruce, and therefore much younger than LaBell ... likely Nishioka was better than Gene in sparring. Nishioka couldn't touch Bruce. I doubt if LaBell could touch Bruce, either. Gene said in Matt Polly email: Bruce was the best of his era. @@JubeiKibagamiFez
@@jakemay637 I know that Gene embellished his stories, but he said he caught Bruce by surprise, but then he ended up teaching Bruce grappling and ground fighting. I don't think the encounter was hostile in any way.... But, to be truthful, everything Bruce knew he learned from someone else and then refined all that he knew to develop Jeet Kune Do. I don't think there was any animosity between Bruce and Gene at all.
As loose as size 50 pants on a size 10 waist.
Quinton hates Bruce because Lee movies are more timeless and rewatchable than his.
Quentins movies are some of the most rewatchable movies ever, what are you talking about man
@@5poopyhope they are just shock moments
With violence
This is genuinely one of the worst takes I have ever heard, like if his movies weren’t incredible he wouldn’t have won 2 Oscar’s and gotten nominated for 6 not to mention his films are some of the most iconic movies to have ever touched a theater, and no jabs at Bruce Lee films there fun and good and ahead of their time but most of the basic some downs are good guy wins and the bad guy loses
@GhostStrawberry how the hell do you think Jamie Foxx is a terrible actor? His performance in that movie was incredible not to mention he won an Oscar for his role in Ray and played the best drill Sargent (in JarHead) I’ve seen since segment Hartman in Full metal Jacket, so If anything he’s one of the best actors of all time
In a biography, written by a friend of Bruce Lee; he briefly described what Bruce's friendship meant.
He was very loyal. If you were sick, he would visit, until you were back on your feet. if you were down on the dumps he was there to cheer you up
That always stuck with me.
ironic that tarantino made bruce lee act more like tarantino than bruce lee
Idk. There some many stories of how Bruce treats stunt men. I haven’t heard one of tarantion yet. Just that he’s weird
@@harlem4693 You dropped this 🧠
@@mikothornelius8557 your upset at something you probably already forgot about
Quentin was trolling…. I think he knew it would piss people off, and wanted to.
I remember my ex army dad used to wake me up in the morning to join him for a run and exercise n I’d hate every second of it. After I watched the way of the dragon, my father didn’t have to tell me to wake up early or exercise it became a natural part of life. And this is true to many of the living martial arts legends today. He inspired so many of them like this from the childhood. His best contribution to the world is that he made physical exercise n martial arts look so cool that people would engage in them despite the discipline n labour it requires. Imagine the world of martial arts today without this phenomenon named Bruce Lee! 🎉🤘❤️❤️
I am old enough and have followed the career of Bruce Lee that he struck me as a humble guy, the way typical martial artists are. I mean if you know you can take life with just your bare hands and you are a human being, it humbles you. I know because my karate teacher also taught the secret service and was a pastor and was very humble. I have never liked Quentin Tarantino movies, they are incoherent. On the positive side of things, I am excited to know that Shannon Lee exists and is out there. It would be an honor to meet a descendant of Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee said that he picked up a lot of grappling technique from Gene LeBell. That sounds like a pretty friendly relationship one has with a colleague.
By the time they met, Bruce had trained with many grapplers, from his time in Seattle (19 or so) to his time in Hollywood. Many judo men were, for example impressed that Bruce even knew the names of the Japanese techniques. Of course, it's well known that much of Lee's training with his students was: "Come at me like a boxer, or a grappler, etc."
To anyone who defends the portrayal of Bruce Lee.
Imagine this would be Muhammed Ali. Also in a fictional setting but historically majorly accurate era. In a context that is realistic for the time period.
And have Tarantino make a ridiculous caricature out of him. Let’s see how the world would react then.
Then you get the point.
Muhammad Ali was heavyweight champion of the world
Bruce was a trainer/actor who's influence goes without speaking
Both said they were the best in the world only one has proven it
@@stefanbas6181Well said. The same can be said of Jackie Chan, where Benny Urquidez claimed that Chan could be a world champion fighter if he trained. That's an honor in itself but of course Jackie is known for films and enjoys making movies. Lets be real, the movie industry was making people rich and famous--at least more than kickboxing at the time.
@@stefanbas6181yeah. So many champions of Lee's era stating that he could or did beat them means nothing. Duh.
@@thatgayqueen2826 "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" I believe that was a quote by Iron Mike Tyson - I am a Bruce lee fan as well, but he was not a professional fighter in no way at all. Be consistent in your logic, QT didn't do jack to his legacy, if you think BL was a super human and could best ALL the professional fighter's (in the world) then you are worse off than what QT is being accused of. You're saying that the achievement of winning titles through public trials by COMBAT means less than a hypothetical fantasy??? What QT did was no different than what BL did, which was present fiction on film.
@@thisguy3500 - Actually world champions Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Mike Stone trained with Bruce and won every karate championship in the United States in their time. All of them said pound for pound Bruce was the fastest and best they had ever seen. Chuck has on occasion changed his statement but that was his ego talking.
I've always gotten this feeling that Tarantino was an asshat, good movies, but a horrible person.
Yep, pretty much!
Let’s not forget that Tarantino loves writing the n-word into his movies and often gives himself a reason to say it. Dude’s got some latent racist tendencies, but they’re the kind generally overlooked as reserved for “people from a certain era.” Thing is, though: he isn’t. I think dude’s just got some grievances he gets to air out because he makes interesting movies. He gets a pass, but should he really?
I think this scene is messed up because it tarnishes the image of a dead man, a legend that impacted the world of martial arts, helped gave birth to MMA and combat sport as we know it and had a huge influence on the movie industry as well.
But Tarantino is definitely not a racist.
He used the n-word in Pulp Fiction when he talked to Jules Winnfield’s friend Jimmie Dimmick, a caricature of a character.
Then in Django which quiet literally takes place during black slavery.
It is a bit silly to try to use that to label Tarantino as a “racist”.
He has been casting black actors since the beginning of his career and maintains close friendships with all his cast members.
Lastly, I find it a tad self-entitled to think we choose to give people a “pass” or not. If you enjoy a certain director, watch his work. If not, don’t. This whole cancel culture mind set is toxic, is it not?
Not everything is racist just because we don’t like someone’s art.
I think you all don't get to choose how an artist creates.
Bruce Lee was treated like every other person would .
Quentin Tarantino makes great films that don't become the fake polished junk that consistently gets hustled
@@lightup6751you assume racism begins and ends with using the word in public (which, by the way, Tarantino has until he got shut down). You also assume that “liking” black people means you can’t be racist. Lots of slave owners “liked” their slaves. Lots of folk during Jim Crow “liked” black folk as long as they didn’t have to live/eat/go to school/share equality with them. And there are tons of examples of people that “liked” the black parent of their child, while hating their mixed-race offspring. So, yes, you’re giving him a pass, probably because it’s easiest for you and lets you feel comfortable consuming his work.
@@stefanbas6181DW Griffiths was considered one of the great pioneers of film for his seminal Birth of a Nation. “Art” is inherently subjective and in no way sacred.
oh please. I hate Tarantino, but to play the race card is laughable. Tarantino is an idiot, but he's not "racist" lmao.
How many people knows Bruce Lee how many knows Tarantino.Bruce Lee is immortal and Universal
Then in that case no one should have to “defend” Bruce Lee’s name because they were “disrespected” by QTs MOVIE
immortal?
o you mean immortal in that his legend lives on
Actually watched his movies before ever seeing a Bruce Lee movie...🤔
Is genX crying again over someone wrecking childhoods, as a millennial I'll just say, get over it champ.
I've always wondered why Tarantino never portrayed Chuck Norris in Once Upon A Time IN Hollywood, because like Bruce, Norris also worked with Sharon Tate in The Wrecking Crew.
It's weird tarantino never complained about the money he made using bruce lee's imagery for kill bill, the crazy 87 use masks identical to that of kato, he used the green hornet's soundtrack, uma thurman wore the yellow jumpsuit from game of death, the main characters use the 1 inch punch and on and on, also he never mentioned lee in all of these obvious references he simply stole his imagery to make money.
using inspiration from other icons isnt stealing, its showing respect to what they have given the world. dont think youll be willing to see it that way but go ahead and act like people are just stealing from each other. One inch punch was POPULARIZED by bruce.
He can be a fan of the movies without thinking Bruce is Kung-fu Jesus. I appreciate his take on it. Seems a bit more grounded.
@@FreedomDiaries1 i don't think you read my comment, tarantino used BRUCE LEE's imagery, his references are about bruce lee's works, not only kung fu's
@mangopastor "no im choosing not to see your point here"
@@mangopastor I said he can be a fan Without thinking he's kung fu jesus. Yes, he used his imagery.However this was his interpretation of him as a person. He likes his stuff but thinks he may not have been the best person. Separating the person from the artist/actor.
I've never taken anything Tarantino has done seriously including the scene in question. To me it's just part of the fairytale that he's weaving and not to be taken literally since none of it is claimed to be historical or biographical. Bruce is, was and always will be a legend no matter how anyone chooses to portray him.
This.
This is exactly how I felt when I saw this part of the movie….its a movie!!!! Right? lol.
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The problem here is that Tarantino is going around claiming in interviews that it is a portrayal of the “real” Bruce Lee confirmed by his research of the man.
@@mathurinkerbouchard8931 It's Tarantino though, there's nothing about him I take seriously. He's kind of a goofball.
Bruce apparently was not a bully he was more of a teacher and Student of his art.
Why on earth Tarantino has portrayed Bruce Lee in the disrespectful and humiliating way??It realy puzzles me!!
He is a hater. When you are a big star loved as much as bruce is. You have haters. It is jealousy. He feels Bruce Lee doesn't deserve his popularity or mystic.
He made a film of REVISIONIST HISTORY! Bruce Lee was never intended to be the real Bruce Lee.
Inglorious Basterds did the same thing.
Django Unchained did the same thing.
The film never claimed to be real, it is revisionist history and that is why he hasn’t apologized and doubles down.
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame Bruce Lee vs All would be a massacre. You don't even gotta go past the weight divisions do matter
Bruce was a trainer and actor very influential person. Not a professional fighter move on
@@stefanbas6181not a professional fighter, duh.
No kidding. He didn't state that he was.
Relax, Tarantino is known to take liberties with history. For comedy.
I'd like to thank Bruce Lee and Dan Inosanto. Dan helped me get into Filipino Martial Arts and Bruce helped me turn into a piece of flexible metal.
7:57 "tired of white men trying to tell me who Bruce Lee was"
That statement is just as racist as the possibility of anyone trying to correlate Bruce Lee with Asian stereotypes. You do not get to call someone racist and then make statements about their skin color. Absolutely shameful and hypocritical.
TBF thats his daughter so emotion gets in the way but also she ment that it was Mostly Whites that saw her father as like that, considering it was the 60s its hardly a suprise really and she didn't really say it was purely because he was Asian but also because he did sometimes acted like a Jerk but not the disrespectful way Bruce was handled in the movie.
Great video! Thanks for making this. Tarantino claims to be such a Hollywood historian yet was a million miles off target with this scene. I'm sure if asked he'll say he's not racist but he certainly has some bias against Bruce Lee. He joins all the people who treated Bruce Lee, an American, like an "uppity" immigrant - even now in death.
agreed. and on your point of "he'll say he's not racist" he sure loves using the n word,but he calls that art lol
not a big deal!!! clearly youre not black to even begin to understand the pain associated with that word.@@elseptimo77
+ He always used Bruce Lee references in his movies (outfits & such).
'kill Bill'...
Bro it’s not a documentary. It’s a fictional movie.
**Bruce Lee** Is Not Here To Defend Himself Concerning This Negativity. But, One Thing Is Sure: **Bruce Lee** Is **Legendary** And A **Trailblazer** If He Were Alive Today, There Would Be **Silence**. ** No**Controversy**
EXACTLY
What a horrible homage to a legend that died young, who inspired millions of men and opened the door to kung fu actors. And the fact that Quentin said this was based on research makes it even worse. Why would you portray him like that and even claim it was based on true stories? Even Brad was like "nah".
Tarantino says "It's just the fairytale story." So in Tarantino's fairytale, the most famous Asian Martial Artist and Movie Star of all time gets treated like a joke, whereas the white stunt guy that killed his wife helps saves the day. Got it...
Yes, why not?
There should be a QT film on John Wilkes Booth where he saves the day. @@ilfirinms
i love how the only people who made it about race are those overly offended by bruce lees portrayal. also conveniently forgetting all the white people Tarantino has mocked including himself.
Yup disrespecting one person doesn't equal being bigoted even if its unwarranted, also he has made films before where he portrays US Antibellum Culture incredibly negatively even in the Hateful Eight where the Black Protagonist is depicted as kind of cruel and sleazy its justified against the people he was being cruel at as being far worse than him especially with what they did to his people and himself.@@ryanwood6754
Imagine how good Once Upon A Time In Hollywood would have been if he portrayed Bruce the way he really was, speaking respectfully of Muhammad Ali and Joe Lewis, giving his philosophical insight into the martial arts, and when challenged on a point by Cliff, then beating him easily, and Cliff asking him to teach him? Cut to a montage scene of Bruce training Cliff. The final fight scene could have been Cliff going full Bruce Lee on the Manson Gang!
Fan boys dream....maybe all the above and he loses to Cliff since Bruce wasnt a proven fighter?
Notice they only barely mention what Bruce said about Ali and focus on the character not beating cliff.. Even if the Bruce character had been respectful and not dominated in the fight they would claim it wasnt respectful of Bruce
I guess you don’t understand that this fictional film takes place in an alternate universe.
Good thing you don't make movies
@@cuzz63i mean.. he didn't do tournaments. The guy was fit though and knew a lot. Also has some grit for pushing into Western society after 1940 during that time period. Western society was not nice, forgiving, or welcoming. Bruce Lee would have to stand his own and was challenged plenty paving his way. Would he win? Knowledge, fitness, and having grit.. I wouldn't fight him.
Every move Bruce Lee makes on screen exudes power and beauty. He showcases the agility and strength of martial arts with finesse, making each performance memorable and unforgettable.
If he was a director in Bruce Lee's time, he would've been begging Bruce Lee to do a movie
Doubt. Chopsocky films were popular and Tarantino doesn't ride the waves of mediocrity. Kill Bill for example...
Again the “Bruce Lee” in his FICTIONAL film where a washed up actor and a stunt man who is also an amalgam of multiple people takes out the Manson family, you want to call for “respect” for “Bruce?”
The “Bruce” in QTs film was not the real Bruce Lee. What is so hard to understand about that? Should the lady whose car that the FAKE stuntman Brad Pitt put Bruce into be upset that QT didn’t portray her with the proper respect? Were there any female Kiwi stunt wranglers in the 60s in Hollywood? Or maybe it was a FICTIONAL THING??
We all love Bruce Lee. I was a kid when he passed. I was also a karate student at the YMCA and a Saturday double feature “Chop Socky” movie kid. If I thought for one second that QT meant ill to Mr. Lee I would be with you and his family, but you are all wrong. A film full of fakes and you expect Bruce Lee’s part to be real?
I know you won’t read this and will continue to feel the way you do so I am sorry.
Once upon a time in hollywood was just average
You did a great job releasing that video. Thank you!
Bruce Lee worked his @ss of to get to the height he achieved both as a martial artist and a film maker/movie star. For someone to come along and totally trash his character, his brilliance is to not appreciate the impact he made.
I believe tarantino wants to rewrite history in such a way that Bruce Lee is remembered as cartoon charecter and later on re-invented as white person out of spite , I read four pages of tarantinos outbiography and needed a shower all that ego stroking self engrandizing shows the lack charecter in him .
There's two statues of Bruce Lee out there in the world that will still be standing when we all die.
Last time i checked, Quentin doesnt have any statues dedicated to his impact on humanity.
And he never will ! A legend only in his own mind !
The only thing I remember from Kill Bill is the name of the movie.
Ty ty ty. I was hoping Joe Rogan was gonna set him straight or let him know he didn't like that. But when he was a guest he stayed silent. Didn't even try to disagree with him. Made me look at him different. Ty again for this
Rogan was clearly annoyed by it. But he can't make a guest this big look bad
Quentin insulted everyone who enjoys Bruce's work. I haven't seen the movie. I've seen every other Tarantino film.
Yeah, hearing about that scene soured my need to watch that movie. I've seen every other film too.
let's be honest Quentins a very overrated director anyway
the guy hasn't made a decent movie since Jackie brown
@@err4071 I enjoy his work...for the most part. Sometimes his attempts to go over the top turn out cheesy like the final scenes of Django Unchained. However telling us all to suck a dick has lost him any respect I ever had for him
@@err4071 You can.jsut say tings don't have any relevance because you don't wanna make a legitimate argument
@@stefanbas6181
A legitimate argument about what, Tarantino being a very overrated director
or Tarantino's depiction of Bruce Lee etc etc.
Tarantino was using Bruce's character to create a controversy. The fight never happened. That was a very low class act. Shame on you tarantino. 😢
Just about every fight attributed to Bruce never happened.
Yeah. I didn't really care for that scene, nor for its portrayal of Bruce Lee.
your thumbnail got me here. Great tactic :)
Admittedly, I was one of the few that said it was a dream sequence, because that's what it had appeared to be. In context of his interview with Joe Rogan and the book though, it seems intentional to create some controversey to get people to buy into what essentially was hear-say. The fight isn't what I thought silly though, it was the dialogue prior to it. Respect for bringing clarity to this debate. It's pretty conclusive that Tarantino was looking to knock him down a peg for who knows what reason. Jealousy? Envy? Hate for his ongoing celebrated status? Or to make money? Only he knows the truth.
I was practicing Tae Kwon Do when Bruce was still alive. This version of him is a grotesque parody. Tarantino just lost whatever small amount of respect I had left for him as a man.
Naw, Lee was an arrogant person. And Gene Lebell picked him up and carried him around the studio while he was screaming "put me down". If Tarantino put that in the movie his fans would have all had a hemorrhage
@@johnreidy2804ill call bullshit
@@sargerules20 Yeah, people think with their emotions instead of logic. You are no different. You love Lee therefore he was the baddest man on the planet, at 135 pounds lol. Even though he only had one fight to his credit.
And it wasn't Lebell. Lebell just toyed with Lee. Lee fought Wong Jack Man to a draw according to a book written by one of the 11 witnesses. The Book is called "showdown in Oakland."
Give it a read if you actually want the truth about Lee. In the meantime if you think he fought other street fights show me the proof Sport :-)
Well researched and thoughtful video.
I never saw the movie because I heard it's depiction of Bruce Lee was bad, then I looked up the scene and immediately checked out when the actor portraying Bruce had a physique nothing like him, moved nothing like him, and ultimately didn't even look like him.
Going back in time I never enjoyed Kill Bill, I thought it was cool that they used the jumpsuit from Game of Death but still something about it really turned me off. Now I realise it was actually Quentin trying to associate that iconic jump suit with a different movie for a different generation. To perhaps tarnish or even diminish the spotlight on Bruce that it was he who wore it first (and better).
Now after watching this video that might actually be true, and it's not a secret that Quentin is obsessed with race, so that might come into play also.
The thing that makes this worse is that people who have never seen Bruce Lee in footage or any of his movies might see Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and form an opinion on him based on that, which is terrible. I remember the backlash Jason Scott Lee received for Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, but in my opinion he did fantastic, his tribute to Bruce's intensity and graceful movement is an achievement all by itself. Nobody else has come close since. Especially not the actor in this scene in mention. I'm glad people clapped back, it shows that his legacy is still as important now as it ever was, thanks for the video.
It's been mentioned more than once that Bruce struggled pulling his punches and kicks during enter the dragon because he was so used to full contact work with the Chinese stuntmen he had worked with in his earlier movies
To this day stunt performers will tell the hero actor to actually hit them when they're rolling cameras. They are tough folks and they want it to look good. They don't make a big deal out of it, it's why they get up in the morning.
And that is the thing right there. It would make sense that in the early beginnings of Bruce working with American stuntmen that they would be hit. And with him being so fast...someone was going to be hit. That in no way means/equates to Bruce Lee having no respect for them.
It's still the same way today that in China and it's safe to say in general in Asian martial arts films that they are done full contact. Jackie Chan's style of film fighting is similar, but to give the appearance of full contact and it can be difficult for Western stuntmen to adapt to that kind of fighting.
It can be said that at least in his Chinese movies, Bruce was very good to his stuntmen. He insisted on having meals with them, and that he not be given special treatment. When he was in Hollywood, Stirling Silliphant hired him as fight coordinator for one of his films in the South (I think Tennessee)... and Bruce "proved" himself to the "two, tough big Caucasian cats" (Silliphant) "after Bruce kicked them into the pool, they came up Christians, and from that time on, they would've killed for him." @@ghost7524
Bruce was so fast and powerful that when he had to pull his punches it sometimes caused him injuries.
@@trevorberridge6079 that's what I heard also.
Numerous close friends, including celebrities described Lee as a fierce and confident person, but also a humble and kind person who treated everyone fairly. I haven't heard anything that remotely resembles Tarantino's portrayal of him. I suppose there's no law in mocking anyone but certain things are just poor taste and character.
Funny, even in death, Bruce Lee still gets racism from Hollywood. All these years later, and it has not changed. Yet his legacy lives on.
True
Tarantino being a complete and utter duck ;-)
He'll never change.
I really appreciate you covering this. I really didn’t appreciate what Tarantino did with Bruce Lee. It was very disgraceful. Shannon and her family have every right to be upset by it. I would be upset too if somebody portrayed my parents in a way that wasn’t true to who they were.
I am old enough to have read the interview with Lee that contains the Mohammad Ali quote that Tarentino misrepresented. I think it was in Black Belt or one of those mags and Lee NEVER said he could cripple The Champ. In response to a question about Ali, what Lee he said was something like 'Ali's fist is as big as my head. I would have to go for his knees.' Now that's not the exact quotes, it's been 45 years or so, but that's pretty close. It was basically a joke. Lee had nothing but respect for The Champ. He would watch films of Ali's fights over and over to study his movements and technique, some of which he would incorporate into his own fighting style. What Tarentino did was utter disrespect and his response to 'suck my....' shows was a classless douche he really is. But, hey, he's done some great films. If not the Lee scene "Once Upon A Time..." would be a fave.
Quentin is good at making the bad and low down people look cool. The good and kind he spits on them with artistic strokes to make them look like uninteresting geeks. He strips out the very essence of love and respect from life and replaces it with degradation humiliation and perversion but does it in a way which one thinks that to dislike it would be close minded. It’s all part of the program to dumb us up and keep us asleep.
Idolizing is akin to sleeping. Look at how many do this today with celebrity politicians world wide. There are many incredible people who's achievements will be forgotten in time by the masses, yet I cannot think of one great achievement from Bruce Lee. His ego was on full display in the Ip Man films and that's coming from Chinese directors. He fit in well with Hollywood as someone that was arrogant--not at all a bad person but full of himself. As someone else pointed out Muhammad Ali was similarly a big talker but he at least proved himself, until he got put in his place by Frazier anyway.
@@thisguy3500you are down right ignorant. The Ip Man films were not based on Bruce Lee and you are confusing arrogance with seriousness, humbleness and honor.
@@thisguy3500there is plenty of proof where Bruce had proved himself.
@@melonmusk3976Looks like you failed to watch the entire Ip Man series then.
Well said!
Quentin Tarantino has always been full of himself.
I'm glad this video (and Bruce Lee's daughter) are calling him out on his nonsense.
Tarantino is not equipped to handle historical material in general, so I don't think anyone takes him all that seriously.
Jim Brown was supposed to be the actor Cliff fought then he switched it to Bruce Lee. So he wanted to have one of the icons beat up. He knows that if he had used an icon like John Wayne he would have had a problem. If you pay attention to the movie he slid in a lot. He definitely has a problem.
good video dude.
Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks for the video. When I saw the movie, I thought that it was simply an alternate reality, since the ending of the story is a fantasy. I was not that upset by the scene. I think Tarantino really shot himself in the foot by doubling down on sounding like he had based it on some "truth" though. No one would disrespect Ali, so I'm not sure what Tarantino was thinking, other than wanting to be a troll for Bruce Lee fans.
On point! The movie is an alternate reality, so anything goes! It’s like the multiverse or the What If comics! What if Bruce was a douche? What if a stuntman beat him? What if that stuntman went on to stop the Manson family murders? What if someone hadn’t turned in front of James Dean while he was driving 100 mph? Would Paul Newman have had a career if not? It’s just an amusing mental exercise, not to be confused with reality. People need to lighten up, because Tarantino was just having fun. Unfortunately, he underestimated the Lee fan base, and his ego won’t let him just say “I’M SORRY!”
nobody should be off limits for mockery. People just soft these days and want any excuse to throw racism out there
Super insightful. I love the addition to perspectives and comedy. I thought it was going to be another remastered video but… I see you had more in store for us. Awesome
Thank you for making this brilliant video and clearing it up, this is one of the best made videos. In the world of combat sports before UFC mma every martail artists wanted to challange and test other martial artists espically to who were famous. So Bruce had to deal a lot of this. There is a reason everyone loved Bruce Lee. Also Gene never fought Segal, Segal believed he couldn't be chocked so he let Gene put a choke hold on him but ppl think Gene beat Segal and put him in a choke hold.
Bruce Lee in his real comment about Ali is correct. If he can use his feet, Ali might be screwed (and I think that would be the case since Ali had no idea on how to deal with kicks, even to his legs - source: watch the fight in Japan with Inoki - who had sloppy kicks on the ground.) Where Ali's legs were messed up from the sloppy kicks, let alone kicks and side kicks to the knee by Bruce Lee...
But his comment about fist size and size in general is that: limit his tools with rules in the boxing ring and he's likely not going to do well against Ali based on size/weight alone...
Nothing wrong with Bruce's assessment of the situation. It's actually logical and accurate.
Oh wow, I’ve never knew. Thank you for sharing this. I agree, that fight scene does come across as disrespectful to the late Bruce Lee.
When someone is too great .. There'll be some people like Tarantino 6:26 who wants to down play that person's greatness.
That was really well done. You kept things strait forward, and honest. And I totally agree with Shannon. That jerk owes her an apology. His actions further shows the arrogance of Hollywood.
You realize you're telling someone to apologize for having an opinion. QT could turn it around and say you have to apologize for assuming you know everything about him.
I think Quinton was just upset because Bruces worst movie is still better then kill bill
The young brother sparring with Ho Chung -Tao at 12:29 his name is Carl Scott. From what I seen from him in those movies with Billy Chong ( I don't know his original name, He goes by Willy Dozan now) He was pretty damn good. Could you do a video about Carl Scott? A little more about his life and career in movies? To me he's a guy that doesn't get enough shine. I love your channel and keep up the good work!👍
Bruce Lee never said that Muhammad Ali would kill him & I've watched his interviews in referenced to Ali bigger hands. He's never talked like this, & as for fighting in the streets he said that he believed in fighting dirty.
This statement was by someone who used the book Making of Enter The Dragon by Robert Clouse who directed the movie.
However, in IMDB it doesn't mention him writing the book Making of Enter The Dragon.
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Overall your video is good & you've done amazing research.
I saw a interview a long time ago. Where Quentin Tarantino. Said he wasn't a Bruce Lee fan. He was a sonny Shiba fan. And didn't understand why people loved Bruce Lee more than sonny Shiba.
Weird cause he said he likes Bruce Lee.
Cool video bro
I can agree that the best way to have handled the situation is to simply explain the portrayal as "necessary for the movie". Cliff needed to be the sympathetic character in that scene, so having Bruce act all arrogant about his fighting abilities was necessary because nobody would have liked to see Brad Pitt beat up (or even fight evenly with) a martial arts legend otherwise. So making Bruce the kinda guy you want to see eat a slice of humble pie makes sense.
As someone who constantly has to reality-check Bruce Lee fans who think his speed and power transcend weight classes, and his martial arts skills are unmatched even by the most accomplished professional MMA fighters, I have no problem seeing Lee portrayed in that way. And I still believe that, outside of Bruce's friends and family, the "controversy" connected with this scene has remained almost entirely within the bubble of die-hard Bruce Lee fanboys. But I do agree that Quentin's explanations afterward were at best misunderstandings and, at worst, lies.
I actually think that the issue concerns most people familiar with Bruce Lee, not just die hard fans.
What happened here is that an iconic figure’s image was tarnished. Bruce Lee wasn’t a UFC fighter. But he was a martial artist, a pioneer for the MMA and therefor the UFC, an insightful philosopher and played a huge role in getting martial arts to the rest of the world as well as having a tremendous influence as an action actor on the movie industry.
Many forget this fact simply because he was Asian and Asian martial arts was rather considered exotic at the time but he actually influenced the whole hero vs rest of the world formula that would pave the way for Stallone, Schwarzenegger and of course, Jackie Chan.
Bruce Lee is dead. He died only 32. He has no chance to defend himself on this matter. But he changed the world in the realms or martial arts and MMA with his non traditional approach and left a huge mark on cinema.
This was no different than Tarantino or any director tarnishing the image of Muhammad Ali.
Only that the backlash would have been much more serious.
At the end of the day it’s fiction.
But there is common decency and respect for such historical figures especially someone with such a positive and humbling world view.
Tarantino disrespected a legend here. Not the end of the world. But I can see why so many people, from filmmakers and actors to UFC athletes and martial artist world wide have an issue here
@@lightup6751 Exactly! If QT really wanted to diss Bruce Lee, he could have gone down so many other paths, but he chose this. Bruce of course, was near-sighted; when he applied to join the US Army he was turned down, deemed to be physically unfit (?), and, according to his own siblings, Phoebe and Robert Lee, he could neither swim nor ride a bicycle. So tentatively, he set out to be the best he could be elsewhere, and he was.
Professional athletes develop their fast-twitch muscle fibers (which occur naturally in the large primates) to different degrees; so I can surmise that Bruce, through his training, developed his fast-twitch muscle fibers to a degree no one else had (or has since); that would explain the incredible feats he was able to achieve.
I don’t think “stories from white men” is a good argument for Shannon. I get that topic will get anyone on your side these days but I honestly don’t think that had anything to do with anyone thinking Bruce was arrogant. I’ve read Matthew Polly’s book on Bruce and I think anyone regardless of race could come up with that assumption just by the way Bruce handled certain situations. That being said I’m not defending Tarantino either, I wasn’t a fan of his Bruce portrayal but I did laugh when I first saw it and I pretty much worshipped the man for half my life. I encourage any big fan of Bruce to read Matthew Polly’s book. Very eye opening for me. Still a huge Bruce Lee fan but it did put him on a more human level for me. Which is fine.
Says the same people always crying about "wokeness" cause they hate white males aren't ALWAYS the center of attention hypocrite.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MATHEW POLLYS IS THAT ACCURATE?
@@erickaufmann4839 because he’s probably done more research than any of us. Plus there are police reports in Hong Kong that back him up.
thats because all people care about now is victimhood and race hustling for that easy fame/cash
Wow this was very thoroughly researched and entertaining. I could not turn away. I subscribed, can't wait to learn more film history from you!
I think i that the Bruce Lee character in Tarantino”s movie esembles Tarantino himself rather than Bruce Leer
Quentin getting him mixed up with Steven segal , beating up stuntmen actors staff to show his power/ strength/ basically a bully
Thank you!! I love your videos and your well balanced and evidential responses…i love Bruce Lee