Of course Brad Pitt beat Bruce Lee. He used to have his own fight club in a restaurant basement (I shouldn't talk about that) and he was the Irish gypsy fighting champion.
Well he didn't even beat him. It ended in a draw. And it didn't even happen. It was Brad Pitt's character imagining what would happen if he was hired and how he would mess up that job.
Ya loved that scene good and when lil girl told him. That was the best acting she’s ever seen and then leo cryled He deserves the Oscar again . And brad to
@@cheke184 ...your information sources are bad. Bruce Lee is recognized as the G.O.A.T. all around the whole World. J.K.D. is an important influence in MMA, and Bruce Lee is beloved for his contributions not just to the movies but to World martial arts.
@@Petroglyph1 - Then why did Bruce Lee always refuse to compete for real against real fighters? I'm not talking about demonstrating techniques against your own students, but a real fight. He's lost a few, like against Judo Gene Lebell, or against Francis Lay who quickly submitted him.
@@randallflagg3700 he never refused. He refused fight with rules. He wanna fight without rules. It is sad that ufc was created so late. Cuz I think he will definitely fight there. And you guys don’t understand, he is half Chinese or whatever you call him, the philosophy of Kungfu do not fight. They always talk how to not fight, even they are learning fight.
The problem isn't who can win against bruce lee...The fact was the way he was portraited, he wasn't a bully picking up fights, he was trying his best to blend in with american culture
Bruce Lee has deep respect for stuntmen. Remember Jackie Chan? He worked as a stuntman for Bruce Lee and he testified that Bruce Lee respects the people he works with.
"While serving as stunt coordinator for the film Out for Justice, starring Steven Seagal, Seagal claimed that due to his aikido training he was immune to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels." Fun fact LOL
@@jonnysupreme I say they were both full of shit, but have you ever heard Lebell's interview?that guy is not one fry short of a happy meal or one beer short of a 6 pack,he is completely out to lunch OMG HAHAHAHAHA!!By the way, that wasn't how the story went,what eye witnesses said happened was, Seagal was sitting in a single couch chair and Lebell sneaked up on him from behind and try to choke him out from behind but Seagal managed to escape ,but Lebell says he choked him into shitting himself ,you decide which story was the real truth.I believe Seagal because Lebell tried to do the same thing to the late Bruce Lee but Lee kicked his ass till he begged for Lee to stop. Apparantly Lebell have a bad habit of sneaking up on people when they least expect it ,anyone can do that ,i can do that to you ,it was not a challenged fight let's go outside type situation hehehe!
Based on people who knew Lebell,Lebell was known for sneeking up on people unknowingly from behind and would grab them from behind and try to choke them out,He tried this with Bruce Lee and with Seagal.Lebell is known liar ,bullshitter or exaggerator by many people,not just Seagal but friends of Bruce Lee as well.Even today when you see him being interviewed he is fucked up n the head!Let me ask you this, A sane person i am assuming,who do you know more about ?Steven Seagal,Bruce Lee or GENE LEBELL??When you answer this question honestly,you will have your answer about whether Lebell is telling the truth about his exploits in life! or is he full of shit?
@Zeek Banistor Yeh id like to see the sources, duno about the guys u were arguing with tho. ill give it a like when u post it cuz im just interested in what u have to say lol
@Zeek Banistor You're so full of shit. Your whole argument is obviuously coming from a place of disdain for Lee. You're not a fan and you don't like the status quo narrative about Lee, so you mouth off dispensing inacurrate information that's biased to make him look weak and make those close to him appear as though they're all liers, based on your own opinion of him that you say comes from "sources". I know a lot about Bruce Lee as well. Enough to know your bullshitting about his wife not being there. She was there according to her. You gonna call her a lier about it? And your version of the facts is coming from the side of Jack Man. Linda said that Bruce spend most of the fight chasing him around the room. Bruce was also won a full contact boxing competition in hong kong in his late teens. Beating the 3 years reigning champ of that competition by ko. This is reported by Linda Lee his wife. I'm not going to assume that she was lying although I'm sure you will.
my uncle was a military police man in japan during the post war occupation. before he went he was already trained in boxing and Kung Fu. then whilst in japan he learnt judo. he said combining the best bits of each combat style was quite often encouraged and could turn a good fighter into a very good one. i was lucky enough to spend time with him when i was young and like Le Bell he was a monster of a man. when returning from japan his friend told stories of following him into a bar brawl and see guys flying around the room. he told me on numerous occasions that (especially USN and GI's) would always be trying to gain points with their mates by trying to take him on and generally found themselves being carried out. he accredited most of this to being able to combine skills from his different styles and i guess he was right.
When I was sent to Ft Benning for basic I was pretty tough, athletic background and had a couple of fistfights behind me. OH BOY 😳 I came across some 'actives' that seriously scared me, made me feel like a chump..
@@natemurphy7758 I wasn't just talking about Hollywood,im talking about all of them,he directed Inglorious Bastards where Hitler gets killed in a glorious fashion,he directed Django where a bunch of white slavers get killed,On Hollywood Charles Manson gets killed,these are all events that never happened yet he put them on the screen so people can have fun watching the bad guys of History getting fucked on the big screen,him saying the n word as a character in a movie is not proof he is a racist,you're just being a snowflake
Real life Bruce Lee: “Look at my hand. That’s a little Chinese hand. He[Muhammad Ali]’d kill me.” Quinton Tarantino's Bruce Lee: "These hands are lethal weapons."
@@ozairchishti1264 of you think he looked that much like Bruce lee then you must have never saw Danny Chan the guy is his twin He even plays bruce lee in the series on netflix called (The Legend Of Bruce Lee) and plays him on IP Man 3 and 4 as well as a movie that just dropped I forgot the name of it though.
Im 73 . I Was fresh 20yr old stuntman in 66 when i worked on The Green Hornet. And i worked on Longstreet in 71 with Bruce also. I got into editing in 79 after a back injury.
@@maximusareilius2262 wow that's awesome. yea there was an interview i saw him on a bike that had "Bruce" on it. Interview showed him very shy, respectful, etc. I think he's arrogant to the people who he didn't like or that made him like a lower class.
Hi Maximus Areilius, do you think Bruce Lee was pushed a side for David Carradine in the tv show Kung Fu? Do you have an idea or heard word of why Bruce Lee was replaced by Carradine? I read that the main role in Kung Fu was his idea to part to act in and was a vehicle to jump start his acting career in the US but the execs in Hollywood passed him over.
@@MrSunnyyangyang Yeah and Rommel the most Legendary General of the war of the desert couldn't kill the Lunatic with a detonator destroying half a building in real Life, but a bunch of lunatics with no plans gunned down the dude on a theater in the Tarantino movie, I believe it is more far fetch than Bruce lee being beaten down by a stuntman
If they depicted Hitler as a genuinely nice guy and a loving father or some shit like that 'folks' would keep the same energy for sure. What people care more (despite what they say) is that a respected person is depicted as an arrogant prick without any hard evidence. If you didn't get that...
@@게임영상-i8e It was literally a thought of Cliff's in a movie called "Once upon a time in Hollywood." It was taking the piss, how can anyone not see that.
Bruce Lee was one of the first martial artist that cast doubt about these traditional Kung fu Sifu’s skills. He laughed at the out of shape ones who claimed their chi went to their belly when it was just fat. With regards to J. Labelle’s grappling skills being able to beat Bruce, it really is academic and debatable. . Look at Ronda Rousey, a judo Olympic medalist who got knocked down by stand up strikers twice.
Did you just compare Ronda Rousey to Gene fucking Labelle? I guess it makes sense you'd compare Bruce Lee to a woman though that's basically what he was at 155. If he fought in today's MMA environment he'd get torn in half.
@@drobert1741 Well, it was a different time. 50 years from now, the very same can be said about the fighters of doing being torn apart. But it WAS Bruce that brought the mainstream audience in the west Martial Arts in movies.
when Rhonda used good tactics that emphasized her judo skills, she was unstoppable. Then, she abandoned Judo because no one in her division could touch her. Then bring in someone who actually knows how to manage distance, Rhonda goes down.
Problem there my friend is that guys like Chuck and Dan were really good friends with Bruce, and basically owe their careers to Bruce. They're both nice guys too (met Dan, never met Chuck but by all accounts a nice man). So, they're not exactly going to come on and go "Yeah, my really good friend Bruce? The guy who gave me these amazing opportunities which changed my life forever? Nah, he couldn't actually fight and he was kind of a jerk a lot of the time". I'd still like to hear their perspectives, but they're just that: perspectives with heavy bias.
“I met Bruce when he was working on the television series, Green Hornet,” recalled LeBell. “Benny Dobbins was stunt coordinator for the show and he called and asked me to check out some kid by the name of Bruce Lee. ‘I got this guy who does the same stuff you do,’ Dobbins said. Of course Benny didn’t know the difference between judo and kung fu, but he wanted me to watch this new actor work. One of the first things I noticed was that although Bruce was small, about 130 pounds, he had a tremendous upper body. Bruce was also very fast and wanted to always take the action beyond what the script called for. Once the director called action, he got that and a lot more from Bruce.” New to American humor, the Chinese actor didn’t know what to make of it when Gene hoisted him over his shoulders and ran up and down the stairs doing a fireman’s carry with Lee draped over his shoulders. “Stuntmen and wrestlers have their own brand of humor and at first Bruce didn’t take my little joke too kindly,” LeBell said with a chuckle. “Eventually he realized we were just welcoming him into our group and before long he fit right in with the rest of the rowdy stuntmen.”
from the 1950's up till the 1960's the most popular martial arts were from japan specially samurai movies. bruce lee changed all that with the big boss (fists of fury in america). bruce lee's screen presence was incredible, his energy seems to explode from the screen that made it seem so real to the person watching it. there can only be one bruce lee!
And didn’t Bruce actually hit Jackie Chan. On accident. Him too we need him too. I’d rather of them bring up Bruce’s visit to Polanski’s place in that time.
Bruce Lee was very great but always learning and advancing himself in martial arts. He would have been the greatest if he lived longer to then publicly display himself as a fighter
Bruce Lee should've said: "Compliant underlings I use in my demonstrations who I tell to stand there and do nothing so I can punch them don't fight back" :P :)
@@cannonfodder4000 During the filming of Green Hornet, Bruce Lee was hitting the stuntmen for real (like in Hong Kong movies). The producers didn't like it, so they asked Gene LeBell to teach him a lesson. While filming, LeBell caught Lee off-guard and caught him in a hold. That's when Lee and LeBell had that exchange, with Lee saying he'll "kill" him if he doesn't put him down and LeBell joking back "don't kill me, champ." Lee then realized he was lacking grappling skills, so he trained with LeBell and learnt Judo, incorporating it into his Jeet Kune Do style.
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@@RazorEdge2006 That's all true from what I've read but you don't just "learn" judo. It's not like you spend an afternoon with a judo master and then be like "ay man, I got it." It's a discipline that takes years to master. Gene LeBell teaching Bruce Lee a few moves does not equate to Bruce Lee "learning judo."
Would love to see Chuck but... Bruce was a great friend of Chuck. He basically made Chuck's movie career. They were really good friends by all accounts. Chuck is also a nice guy. Basically what I'm saying is he's unlikely to say anything negative about the guy. While I'm not dismissing Chuck's opinion, he's not exactly an unbiased source. But would love to hear him on JRE.
@@BBBYpsi That's open to interpretation. I haven't drank the Bruce Lee Kool Aid, I will say that. That said, it's besides the point. The point is about the objectivity of a source of information that a lot of people are putting stock in.
I was only kidding, im asian so i dont think that, although i do think white people look alike haha. They should have gotten afganistan bruce lee to do it. This guy literally looks like lee
I think everybody gets that. but people definitely have the right to criticize the amazing tarantino for his mockery of a historical figure. whats really sad is that if any director would have made muhammed ali look like a buffoon the outrage would be tremendous. its definitely biased and thats the core issue of people
Tarantino is a little bitch. Last time I heard about him, a few years ago, he was complaining about people capitalizing off of violence or something. LOL. That's exactly how he became rich and famous.
evagrubb They are both ugly ( Weinstein and Tarrantula ) for Weinstein was the only way to become sex, ropes women. Bruce Lee was, is a icon he can have all this women’s without violence !“ This is the the way of fighting without fighting ! Tarrantula is nothing Brad and Di Caprio are nothing compared to Bruce Lee. This is calculated to earns mo cinema payer, earned more money with this sacrifice ( Bruce was beaten from Brad 😂😂😂). Sad, sad, sad. I have liked Brad but no more !
To be fair, everyone was friends with wienstein, everyone thought he was fantastic when he was making everyone lots of money, right up to the point the shit hit the fan with hashtag# then everyone drop him like a hot potato?
From the book cited by Tarantino, regarding Bruce Lee, stuntmen and the "incident" with Gene LeBell: " 'He had never done elaborate fight choreography on film-his childhood Hong Kong movies were melodramas, not action flicks. Onstage, Bruce dealt with three-dimensional space and an audience viewing from every angle. To sell a punch or kick, he had to land within millimeters of the target, what he called “non-contact gung fu.” But The Green Hornet stuntmen were all veterans of Westerns. “It was a two-dimensional thing where you had the camera over your shoulder,” says Van Williams. “You could stand three feet away from your opponent and swing, and if the guy reacted correctly and the sound effects were right, it looked perfect. Bruce could never get used to working that far apart.” Bruce insisted on close quarters combat. The stuntmen hated it. They weren’t fast enough to react to him, and as a result, occasionally got banged up. “They got to the point where they didn’t want to work on that show,” Williams recalls. “They were tired of getting hurt.” “Judo” Gene LeBell, a legendary pro wrestler, world-class judoka, and the stunt coordinator on-set, was assigned the task of calming Bruce down. “Bruce would hit you in ten different spots and as a stuntman you wouldn’t know whether to grab your jaw and say that hurt or your stomach,” says LeBell. “We did our best to slow Bruce Lee down because the Western way was the old John Wayne way where you reach from left field, tell a story, and then you hit the man. Bruce liked to throw thirty-seven kicks and twelve punches.” When reasoning didn’t work, LeBell took to joshing Bruce. “In pro wrestling, they call it ‘the swerve.’ It’s how far you can tease and get away with it,” LeBell explains. “I’d tell him he put too much starch in my shirt.” One day as part of the general joking and roughhousing atmosphere on set, the stuntmen egged LeBell into picking “the little guy up.” LeBell yanked Bruce onto his shoulder in a Crouching Nelson hold-upside down with one hand around the back. Then he slowly walked him around the set. “Put me down!” Bruce yelled. “I’m going to kill you!” “I’m not going to let you down.” “Why?” “Because you are going to kill me.” Despite the difference in temperament, the two men became friends. “I reckon I teased him so much I eventually got him to loosen up a little,” LeBell says. To Bruce’s credit, he was so obsessed with perfecting his martial arts he put up with the hazing to learn from LeBell. Bruce offered to exchange lessons: kungfu for judo and (Catch) wrestling. “I showed him some legitimate finishing holds, leg locks, arm locks,” LeBell recalls. “He told me he used one of my holds on Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.”' " Matthew Polly, Bruce Lee: A Life (page 186-7, Kindle Edition)
He also learn a lot from Chen his street fighting partner in Hong Kong, even if Gene had grabbed up Bruce from behind it wouldn't have done much to Bruce and he would have found a way out of any locks or holds Gene had on him. Then Bruce would have jumped back and then forwards in the fencing stance and proceeded to slap Le Belle. Ding DING. How do I know it went like this? because all of Bruce's fighting friends became his students including Lebelle by regularly going to his DoJo not the other way around. Joe also failed to note that Bruce often spent 16 hours a day in and around the gym and could dead lift over 700lbs. That's the equivalent of Joe going down to 130lbs and making that dead lift. Personally I can't see doing anyone of those things can you?
@@kyleday5026 No, not Japanese Judo, which is grappling. Yip Man practiced Wing Chun, a Southern Chinese Kung fu style, which emphasized relaxed but quick hands.
Bruce picked up only some steps until 7 from Ip Man, it's Bruce who mixed wing chung with striking and grappling to develope eventualy JKD, so the only one who made Bruce was Bruce himself...no ip man, no gene lebelle or chuck norris...it's not the technique but the man behind the technique that makes it efficient
I believe the Bruce Lee scene sets up the end of the film.If Brad's charecter can be competition for Bruce Lee then it's believable that he could thwart the Manson followers at the end of the film.
One person brought up this possibility - the scene was Cliffs own recollection of the situation, therefore it might have been that he recalled him to be arrogant and uppity because he views Lee as a pretentious poser, which would make his memory of the circumstance an inaccurate representation of what Actually happened.
The part that I feel like Joe Rogan, and a lot of other people might be misunderstanding about this particular scene in the movie, that scene was shot with the intention of portraying a fantasy. If you re-watch the movie, it shows Brad Pitt's character on the roof fixing something for Leonardo DiCaprio's character, then they go to that scene where Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked, and then they pop back to the same guy and he's back on the roof.
Again, misconception about Bruce Lee's martial arts. It is NOT a combination of best things from different martial arts. Bruce Lee's first choice in a fight was a fingerjab to the eyes. Than it doesn't matter how strong you are. "Finger Jab is the most effective attack." -Bruce Lee
Hi Landsmann! :-D Ich weiss eigentlich sollen die Leute hier Englisch schreiben aber ich hab gerade keine Lust. Wir zwei verstehen uns ja. Hast Recht mit dem was Du schreibst. Ich kann auch langsam nicht mehr verstehen, warum dieser Irrglaube sogar im Ami-Land immer noch präsent ist. Aber Rogan hat halt auch keine Ahung von Lee, musst ihn mal hören wie er zultzt mit Brendan Schaub gesprochen hat, die haben einfach 0 Plan wer BL wirklich war und was er konnt wenn s drauf ankam. LeBell gegen Lee ist vom Speed wie Bagger gegen Ferraro der Elefant gegen Gephard, nie im Leben würden Gene den packen können, ausser wenn Lee vorher ne Flasche Schnaps trinken muss, dann schon da er kein Alkohl vertrug. :-D Grüße von einem Landsmann, ich weiss Du bist TM (Initialien), wir hatten Anfang 2017 auch mal gemailt.
from what i read about bruce lee he was the best jim kelly said he was unbelievable and a brilliant martial artist and it did not matter what size and he sparred with other martial artists he did not mention who they were also i read that bruce lee had very strong core and high chi and he once said the best fighter is someone who is best at grappling judo etc www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/bwkqlr/why_they_call_bruce_lee_the_godfather_of_mixed/ also joe lewis said he was the fastest most power person that stood in front of him i think because gene labell was taller and different weight and had championships people assume he would be better because he was taller
@@Devlin000 yup,Mr.lee your skills are extraordinary.Your battle with guards magnificent.I was going to ask you to join us.Then Washington,said I was strate out of a comic book.I F**K him up and killed him.Hahahaha😜(or sumthing like that🤔)
Tarantino on Kill Bill: " I'm gonna use his Inspiration and fight scene from Fists of Fury " Also Tarantino " Let's make a mockery of his legend when I release Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
@Edwin C. Hmmm, I do like watching movies that are MORE realistic! Does Scarface and Enter the Dragon give u nightmares? Pulp Fiction & Kill Bill are more childish than cartoons! Tarantino is even worse! I can't imagine how his breath smells like... LOL MAYBE THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR LIL KIDS LIKE U! Have fun riding ur marry go round!
@Edwin C. Since u like watching Tarantino's kids movie, U R A KID! Even Ice Princess is more adult than Tarantino's fantasy gangster & Kung Fu flicks! It's actually quite disturbing that u like watching his movies... sick!
Tony Peterson what a fuckin clown you look like taking this high ground talking about how tarantino movies are bad. yes totally one of the most well known writer/directors of the last 40 years actually makes bad kid movies and we’re all wrong and you have the superior taste in movies 🤡
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 This old myth again. *eye roll* They were not getting "trained" by Bruce Lee. They were training TOGETHER. As both Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis have said: Bruce was not a fighter, he was an actor.
@@scottcarroll9201 You're wrong and haven't read anywhere near as much on the subject as I have. Chuck definitely acknowledged getting trained by Bruce. Joe Lewis didn't say that either. In fact he lifted his five ways of attack directly from Bruce Lee.
Ronda Rousey is an extremely high level Judo practitioner trained by Gene. Look what happened to her against high lvl strikers. Not saying Gene couldn’t smash Lee. Just saying you can’t unbiasedly say one way or the other when one is a friend and someone you admire like Joe and Gene “Everyone has a plan until their punched in the face” Lee was fast AsF! Would Gene still want to grab him after eating 3-10 shots to the face? We’ll never know
That's where it could have been interesting. Bruce would need to land many and quickly. From what little I know about Gene, the size and strength advantage would be a big factor. And, Bruce's lack of ground game. Hey, we'll never know, but many of these hypotheticals would be very interesting to watch if it were possible.
That's assuming that Lee could land 3-10 shots to the face, and whether they'd actually do much damage. One thing people rarely factor in is that, while a fellow martial artist recognizes great speed in others, he doesn't see it as being as fast as civilians do when you're squaring off against it because you're used to speed. It's comparable to how a 95 mph fastball looks insanely fast to someone who is not used to stepping into the box against (and, in my case, catching) 95 mph fastballs. And Lee's got to keep a distance to land his shots. A grappler might not feel it's a good strategy to allow an opponent to remain at an ideal striking distance. :)
That's because Rhonda tried to strike with them. Not sure why you use that in comparison. Had they try to Grapple with her I'm sure it would have been a different outcome
Baddast mofo in the Cul-De-Sac she attempted to grapple with Holm and Nunes. With Holm she got taken down and each time she got in range she got lit up. Same with Nunes. And why would they try to grapple with her? We’re not talking about a grappling match.
You seem to also fail to understand that there was a time fighters did not know how to defend takedowns. Despite what you may think. No one is born with those skills. Again, bad comparison. Rousey is far from a grappler. She does nothing but grab, throw and sweep. She never tried to grapple with anyone
Joe Rogan has lost his touch. As if Bruce Lee would be so stupid as to underestimate Gene. Gene was his friend first and foremost. Gene loved Bruce, theres a video on youtube.
@ Video Master, Labell wouldn't last 2 minutes. Bruce would shoot two fast oblique kicks to the knee, followed by a roundhouse, then an elbow to his temple
MrTruboy Rogan has more competition credentials than Bruce Lee, has trained with some of the top fighters in the world, and commentated for the biggest mma organisation in the world. But apparently "he isn't a real fighter".
It's worth noting that LeBell was a x2 US Judo heavyweight champion, and back then the heavyweight limit was between 80kg and 93kg. Or 176lbs to 205lbs. Given that Lebell also wrestled with a bear, I'm guessing he was closer to the high end of the heavyweight scale. Look at the size of the dude: He was large and was hard as nails, a former catch wrestler, and Judo expert. ruclips.net/video/n9mER2BmNRA/видео.html www.ozy.com/true-story/debunking-quentin-tarantinos-mockery-of-bruce-lee/95956 It would be arrogant to presume the outcome of any fight. But... I'd be more surprised if LeBell lost vs Bruce Lee back in the day.
One of Bruce Lee's close friends was Jhoon Rhee who was Korean taekwondo master. Rhee shared his kicking technique with him which Bruce Lee incorporated into his fighting style and Bruce Lee taught Jhoon Rhee his lightning fast punch. Lee's technique was so amazingly fast that Rhee dubbed it the "Accupunch". At one point he demonstrated it to Muhammed Ali who couldn't block it so he asked Rhee to teach it to him.
We need to convince Joe to get Dan inosanto on his pod cast somehow I think it would be a fantastic interview...please make it happen Joe. ..Who's with me?
@George Waters Bruce knocked down Joe Lewis with a one inch punch. Also Joe Lewis himself said that Bruce Lee could fuck him up any day. So yeah. Bruce fought one guy for real on camera, a real fight at that, and he fucked him up.
@JED ferdinand obviously he would get beat mate. He was till ahead of his time with an mma mindset. Why don't you stop hating on him and tell people who think he could beat the shit out of everyone that he wasn't all that. He got trained in wing chin which is a bs martial arts and when he found out he started learning other crap plus putting all that other crap together loosely - mma mindset.
@JED ferdinand Invent isnt really the word but more like a pioneer. There was no real MMA back then while his fighting style was trying to mix the good parts of different martial arts, making him kind of a godfather of MMA
@@thomasfurey00 lol no , it's a gimmick , bruce knows how to use kayfabe . basically he's just a pro-wrestler taking a gimmick to another level. he has no legit fight record nor even a sparring session with anyone , he's famous video doing anything physical is the one inch punch that is basically a shove. and he's so called teacher is a hoax too . dude came from a family of actors for theaters and operatic singers. he knows how to work the crowd. and during his time kayfabing a character is popular in the entertainment business like how would professional wrestlers did back in the day to keep their legitimacy. bruce lee had nothing to do with the popularity of mma today or even martial arts in general. he is one of the many thousands of hoax from the old chinese "grand masters" to the mcdojos of americas. he name is just kept alive cause it still sell merchandise.
Tarantino has an axe to grind? Django Unchained was heavily censored after been banned in Chinese cinemas. And more of his movies were banned and censored in China so maybe for him a motivation to get even and vent his frustration on a beloved chinese cinematic icon. Just my two cents.
I think Tarantino is a Putz but I don't think he would hold china censoring his films today into hating Bruce Lee.(And I also think Bruce is way over rated by fanboys when they are comparing him to modern MMA guys in a fight)
Anyone who spent some time researching Bruce Lee,knows that he would never trashtalk on Mohammad Ali or any other boxer in general. It is well known,that Bruce Lee was a big box fan and admired Ali.There are interviews by Bolo Yeung and Joe Lewis,where they say that Bruce was studying Ali´s technique and specially his footwork.There´s even an interview where they ask Bruce Lee if he could take down Ali in a fight. He answers: "In a proper boxing fight,I wouldn´t stand a chance against Ali,just compare his hands with mine.In a streetfight,without any rules where anything goes,maybe I could win but that´s all hypothetical."
I love Bruce, but everybody knows he could be pretty arrogant some times. Also, he was very confident on his own abilities. I could see him stating that he could defeat Alí.
@@abzi03 "Source is quentin tarantino" xD tarantino has problems with reading comprehension, because bruce's wife was quoting a critic, it was something that some critic said, not bruce himself
Never forget that Bruce was a street fighter too. That's where he got the nickname 'Little Dragon'. The guy knew how to kick ass an not just in the movies. Plus legs are a lot more powerful than arms. Anyone who's ever taken a good kick vs. a good punch knows that. You can't grapple someone if their kicking your head off it's block.
Let me put it this way. Bruce passed away 50 years ago but his legacy still live on. I wonder how many Vlogers/Podcast people will be remembered after 50 years once they leave this world unless he/she an extraordinary human being. ""The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering" Bruce Lee
Gene Lebell on Bruce Lee: I met Bruce Lee for the first time during the filming of the TV show The Green Hornet, on which he played a butler. He was a nice fellow. The stunt coordinator hired me, and I worked on quite a few episodes. During that time, I was able to get to know Bruce a little bit, and we even worked out together. He was the best martial artist of his time. Bruce and I had a bond with the martial arts, and we would get together frequently. We worked out about 10 to 12 times at his place in Los Angeles’ Chinatown and at my place. When I went to his place, he showed me what he did, and I showed him what I did. Although he seemed to love the finishing holds of grappling, it just wasn’t commercially attractive at the time. Actually, it was because of my grappling and tumbling background that I was hired to do the television show - because I could take falls for Bruce. Bruce Lee was an entertaining fellow who was very knowledgeable and very good at what he did. People may wonder just how good a martial artist he was. Well, as I said earlier, he was the best of his time. Also, many of his former students are doing very well today. That’s a sign that he was a good martial artist and that he was able to make his students into good martial artists.
It might seem weird but Bruce Lee probably the only person in Hollywood I think I've ever really had true respect for. I'm like everybody else he understands what being a stuntman is and how hard it is on their bodies while everybody else just kind of take that for granted.
So? I'm sure joe Rogan can point out someone is a small guy while also being aware that hes not a big guy himself, and I think he meant his height and build
"Put me down or I'll kill you!" "I can't put you down cause you'll kill me!". Lol. It reminds me of me and my brother fighting and saying silly crap when we were kids.
hypotheticals, no one knows who would've won in a fight between Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Just like no one would know who would win in a fight between Ali in his prime and Tyson in his prime. Everyone has a right to say what they think but that doesn't mean it would happen.
This is a none topic. Bruce Lee was an expert in Martial Arts. interviews of people who were on the set... Bolo Yeung, Jackie Chan and others have said Bruce was the real deal. Bolo in an interview said “I challenged Bruce and went I woke up.” HIS WORDS. And Tarantino is just a 70’s era director.
The way I heard this story was on the 1st day on set of "The Green Hornet" an AD or asst producer pointed out Bruce Lee to Gene LeBell and told him that Bruce was a "karate" guy and to go over and prank him. Gene went over to Bruce grabbed him in a "Fireman's Carry" and started running around the set with Bruce on his shoulders. Bruce got very angry and told Gene to put him down or he would kill him. Gene kept running around the set. Bruce said "Are you going to put me down or not?" and Gene said "No, if I put you down you'll kill me." Bruce started laughing and Gene put him down and their friendship was born. I don't know if this story is true or accurate but it was the story I heard.
Hey Joe, this illustrates a very important point in life: the ideological are scared and incapable of learning. They are ego driven, and use the emotion of "knowledge" to maintain a culture of fiction, in which they: know what's going on, and are in control. Love your work Joe, thank you. David Weeks, Tampa, Florida.
Mixed martial artist has a massive advantage to even the finest boxer in free fight, that's just a fact of life. It doesn't matter how good you strike if you cannot defent from the rear naked choke my man.
Isn't this the same guy that said Ronda Rosey would be Mayweather but she could not even beat women that beat the snot out of her and knocked her out cold
@@roberttauzer7042 Of course, when Rousey faced women who could really box, the only only ground game was the game of how often Rousey could hit the ground.
When he fought against a Kung Fu instructor in San Francisco, they said he beat the guy using the same four moves from Win Chung over and over. Most of Jeet Kun Do's punches stance, and blocks he modified from Ip Man's teachings.
@kmden Rt Ip Man was very well respected even during his own time, and he instructed several well known and accomplished students one of which was Bruce Lee. The Ip Man trilogy is loosely based on his life because it's a movie, they take liberties, but Ip Man was an incredible martial artist in his own right. MMA is relatively new, and MMA has an advantage over any single martial art discipline as each discipline has it's weaknesses while MMA much like Jeet Kune Do tries to take the best from every discipline. That doesn't mean Ip Man wasn't a legendary martial artist.
Bruce Lee was taught some of the Wing Chun system/concepts by Wong Shun Leung not Ip Man. Ip Man by then had delegated teaching to his senior students.
@kmden Rt today wing chun is a bullshit martial art? What do you mean lol, it's been around for awhile, if you mean it's not effective against MMA, well, duh. Most martial arts aren't, because it's a single discipline vs MMA which is many disciplines. You can't say that masters of kung fu and wing chun are bullshit martial artists because when they go against MMA, which is very new compared to most martial arts, they can't compete. Just like Jeet Kune Do, it was very innovative at the time, and it heavily influenced MMA in the idea that you take the best from all martial art disciplines.
Bruce lee taught everybody to fuckin dodge and move. Hes the goat. He was the first recognized to open his mind on different styles. And he just had ties to hollywood to mainstream it. Huge Bruce lee fan. He still the goat in my eyes
Everyone always asks "How would Bruce Lee have done in MMA?" and my real question is "Would MMA have ever come to be without the influence of Bruce Lee?". He's one of the fathers of MMA whether people realize it or not.
Current MMA and other combat sports really limits a lot of the incredible striking techniques of traditional martial arts that are meant for fights that last less than 30 seconds really. That's why out of the many KungFu styles, SanDa (very similar to MT) is the only popular one in modern combat sports. (Also fake "masters" being more common than real ones have tarnished the art) Think about it, for strikers, you're limited because the gloves reduces the damage you deal. Grapplers aren't really limited in any way. I feel like this really applies to Bruce too. His striking capability is hindered by gloves meaning he's going to be fighting a prolonged fight he probably isn't used to. Street fighting is very different than MMA fighting and I think Bruce would be a fish out of water.
@@Gongolongo He wasn't just a striker. And he got in more fights as a kid growing up in Kowloon than most MMA fighters their whole lives, so I think he knew how to take a punch. Plus, he trained in Ju Jitsu and wrestling as well. He just showed off striking ability only in the movies, because that's what people wanted to see. He did show it in the movies with his fight against Kareem Abdul Jabar. And no, I'm not saying that was a real fight. Saying Bruce Lee was just a striker, a Kung Fu artist, or inexperienced in real world fighting is, bluntly, fucking ignorant, and shows most people never read his real history or that told by those close to him, like Poteet, or Inosanto, or some actual boxers of the day. Judging him just by watching his movies is plain stupid.
Yes it would have because it was already around before Bruce was even born with Vale Tudo, Pankration, Leitai matches, early 1800's boxing (which combined wrestling and grappling), Bartitsu, Jack Dempsey's strong teachings on cross training martial arts, and more. MMA wouldn't have been as popular for sure, but it's predecessors were around and active long before Bruce Lee. Dana White basically grabbed hold of Bruce Lee as the father of MMA narrative to win over the TMA fighters and it gave birth to the modern idea of him being the father of MMA and helped to launch MMA's popularity way higher than it would have ever been had they not used Bruce as a marketing tool.
Just watched an interview with Joe Lewis and he credits Lee with his development of kick boxing because Lewis was sick of point fights. He recalls how strong Lee was when he held a 75lb bar out with straight arms in a horse stance and held it there. He said he was incredibly strong
This is why Bruce Lee never fought in tournaments because he said Fighting in a sport and fighting on the street are two different things, there are no rules on the street.
My dad was a state tournament high school, and U.S. Navy wrestler, and wrestled with me from the time I could crawl. I started Tae Kwon Do at 14 years old, and when we sparred I kept asking the owner of the dojo why I couldn't defend myself, if we were learning self-defense. He would tear me to pieces, verbally, about the, "impurity," and the, "dirty," fighting I was distracting everyone with. I would show my dad what I'd learned, and 1.5 seconds later I would be on my back with my arm between my legs. "That working for you?" "That's what I keep trying to tell them," I would reply, hoping to allow for a decrease in the pressure on my crotch. Two years in, I accidently connected on the wide open nose of the, "star pupil," and though I apologized for hitting what he left open, my reward for training him for what he'd see in tournaments a month later (he was shut out in his only fight in his only tournament), was to have my right knee thrust kicked backwards. Six months of physical therapy, after surgery, and returned to the school long enough to put every single student's back flat on the mat with basic takedowns: one day, less than two hours. A family friend who had recently retired from a very specialized role in the U.S. Navy heard about my situation. I began ten years of training with him regularly. He had studied not only wrestling and Tae Kwon Do, but Judo, Ju Jitsu, Kung Fu from several very different practitioners, a bit of Muay Thai, and something I had never heard of called Krav Maga. I was amazed. What made sense to me was to use what your brain could learn and your body could use. I remember asking in Tae Kwon Do, when being shown three techniques for kicks to your opponent's head, " this takes too long, it won't be effective in a real fight! It makes as much sense as punching someone in the foot!" I got an angry glare, but no answer. I've been in a lot of fights. Far too many. I had many people try head kicks, and every one of them lost the fight soon after. Thanks, Dad!!!
Most men confuse fighting and self-defense. In self-defense you should always use a weapon unless you cannot; only a drooling moron would agree to flush his life down the toilet to feel like a fake tough guy for a moment and take on someone unarmed. Hence the saying "nobody is stupider than a young man" because lots of young men would love to flush their life down the shitter like that. If, however, you are being confronted and don't have a weapon then a head kick has been proven to work many times. The thing about an offense like that is that once it connects, it's bound to do some damage or pain whereas in judo and wrestling there are holds that give your opponent plenty of time to think and bite and twist and squeeze your vulnerable areas. They neglect the importance of the element of surprise, which is crucial in self-defense and meaningless in ego fighting.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I have never heard a saying, nobody is stupider than a young man," but anyone who says that proves their own stupidity. And arrogance. Have you ever heard the phrase, "nobody stupider than someone who insult someone they don't even know?" Did you even understand anything that I said? Taekwondo "teacher" wanted to teach me a bunch of forms and things that are not useful in self-defense. When someone attacks me I am now in a fight.. If I am walking out of a building and a a person throws a kick or a punch at me I am now in a fight. I never said I wouldn't use a weapon, in fact in Krav Maga if you look at what I said it is about learning in your brain what your body can do and it encourages knowing your surroundings and using anything you can see to your advantage to end the situation as quickly as possible. I've been in 138 fights in my life. I've had probably 16 or 17 people throw kicks at my head and every one of those people ended up on their backs. You want the element of surprise? Try throwing a kick at the head of a person trained to defend themselves and you'll be surprised how fast the back of your skull get bounced off the ground. To say that they had time to twist or grab, no they did not. Because before they hit the ground I was beginning my next attack and generally had plunged my elbow into their face seven or eight times in less than two or three seconds then I got up and walked away and ask somebody to call for an ambulance and probably a dentist and an oral surgeon. Or I would move to the manipulation of their wrist or their elbow or their shoulder are there any rain coat or their knee. Orange Show. All of those are incredibly quick maneuvers. Go watch a real fight. Go watch two people trained in multiple forms of self-defense they call it MMA oh, and watch the frequency of head kicks and watch How often they actually work. There is nobody stupider than someone who attempt a battle of wits when they are completely outgunned. Have a nice life
Gene LeBell, actually, was a middleweight when he competed in judo tournaments. He was not a world champion, but rather an Amateur Athletic Union National Judo Champion. He was good enough to beat heavyweights, but he was not all that big like some people think. When he got older, he put on some pounds like any other guy. As for him crushing Bruce Lee in a real fight a hundred times out of a hundred, well, he would have to get close enough to grab Bruce before Bruce nails him. Hayward Nishioka, a judo champion with a 5th ranking in the world who sparred with Bruce Lee, was more impressive than Gene LeBell, and he said in terms of speed and timing, Bruce was absolutely supreme and was one out of a zillion as a true fighter, and he also said in a real no-rule fight, Bruce would be 4 times more scary. Just saying Joe Rogan is entitled to his opinion, but he never met Bruce Lee and he may not be so right as he thinks he is.
Thank you for that. Very well said. Some of us who had fuck up fathers look at Bruce Lee and his words of wisdom to help find the right paths. People talk on the dead way too much.
Joe said it's a Tarantino film and he takes liberties for entertainment value. Did people sleep through this podcast segment but comment on it anyways?
Anyone else notice how Joe dismisses anything Tom has to say about anything to do with fighting? Tom: “Was Kung fu popular early?” Joe: “MMA got rid of that!” 🤦♂️ Tom: “wouldn’t that be cool if Tarantino knew of a fighting story about them and base it off of that?” Joe: “ they were good friends they wouldn’t have fought” A minute later Joe is reading about an incident that happened 🤦♂️
Bruce Lee learned wrestling and judo from Gene Labell. Chuck Norris and other greats of that era called him the "Toughest man alive". I'm glad too see one of the old time greats acknowledged on the show. But, it seems that Joe acknowledges Bruce's influence on MMA, but not his fighting ability.
Joe literally calls Lee a fantastic martial artist. He's simply stating that because of Labell's size, he would just tackle him instead of traditional martial fighting style
@@charlesharsha4568 Yes, but Bruce Lee if prepared... would know howto counter that. I'll say it, don't care, based on what others have said about Lee... Lee would know howto bring down Lebell. You think Lee would just wait until Lebell tackled him? Seriously? What World Class fighter does that except Sumo Wrestlers?
@@JosephGibson I'm explaining what Joe meant. Of course Bruce would have a counter, just as Bruce is world class at what he does so would be his opponent. I'm a huge Bruce fan, I'd bet on him. But I see Joe's point
Of course Brad Pitt beat Bruce Lee. He used to have his own fight club in a restaurant basement (I shouldn't talk about that) and he was the Irish gypsy fighting champion.
Bro what's the first rule of that "alleged fight club".... and you forgot that his ma is partial to the periwinkle blue
Hahaha. Good one brother.
Well he didn't even beat him. It ended in a draw. And it didn't even happen. It was Brad Pitt's character imagining what would happen if he was hired and how he would mess up that job.
“ I fucking hate Pikeys”
Dont forget when he used to have do heist in casino's 😂😂🤣🤣👌 funny comment
Bruce Lee literally said that flashy high kicks, jump kicks etc, are good for movies but not for a real fight
cue video of Werdum flying kick to Travis Browne's face. Cue video of Masvidal's jump kick to the dick.
Because they leave you open.
Throw the wrong kick and an experienced fighter takes you down Hard.
Yep. People that trained with him, as well as his family and friends, have said that the "movie stuff" was nothing like what Bruce did or taught.
Steven Watson - Edson Barboza
Till chuck Norris taught him.how to kick
That Leo DiCaprio scene when he's in the trailer angry at himself was absolute gold.
@@edg.4122 that line lmaooo
It was glorious. I was the only one who lol’d in the packed theatre, too.
@@YazzFlute Haha same thing happened to me, I was also the only that laughed my ass off in hateful eight when Channing Tatum got his melon blow off
AGREED!
That's serious acting 😎👍
Ya loved that scene good and when lil girl told him. That was the best acting she’s ever seen and then leo cryled He deserves the Oscar again . And brad to
Bruce Lee talked about the weight class difference being very real, he understood that it's a big factor.
@@cheke184 ...your information sources are bad.
Bruce Lee is recognized as the G.O.A.T. all around the whole World.
J.K.D. is an important influence in MMA, and
Bruce Lee is beloved for his contributions not just to the movies but to World martial arts.
@@Petroglyph1 - Then why did Bruce Lee always refuse to compete for real against real fighters? I'm not talking about demonstrating techniques against your own students, but a real fight. He's lost a few, like against Judo Gene Lebell, or against Francis Lay who quickly submitted him.
Yeahi mean, he was a real street fighter
@@cheke184 Jeet Kune do, as a humble Student of the art.
@@randallflagg3700 he never refused. He refused fight with rules. He wanna fight without rules. It is sad that ufc was created so late. Cuz I think he will definitely fight there. And you guys don’t understand, he is half Chinese or whatever you call him, the philosophy of Kungfu do not fight. They always talk how to not fight, even they are learning fight.
The problem isn't who can win against bruce lee...The fact was the way he was portraited, he wasn't a bully picking up fights, he was trying his best to blend in with american culture
Exactly!
Fake News
We don't know if he could take a punch and we will never know
You speak as if you where there.
Dude. America literally bullies everyone .
Imagine Bruce Lee on Joe's podcast
it would be one of the best podcasts of all time
Lee: Empty your mind. Be formless. Shapeless. Rogan: Like DMT?
Ricardo Diaz lmaooo
he wouldn't fight him, cause he never fought anyone.
This idea puts tears in my eyes. RIP Bruce.
Bruce Lee has deep respect for stuntmen. Remember Jackie Chan? He worked as a stuntman for Bruce Lee and he testified that Bruce Lee respects the people he works with.
He ate with his stuntment on set.
@pornoWmzika They were mostly stuntmen for the other actors
@pornoWmzika well he needed a stunt men to kick through windows and get there butts kicked on set.lol
what are you talking about? he himself WAS a stuntmen.
this was way before he became famous in the states.
Had
"While serving as stunt coordinator for the film Out for Justice, starring Steven Seagal, Seagal claimed that due to his aikido training he was immune to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels." Fun fact LOL
Seagal said that,that never happened and that Lebell is always making shit up and as long as he have known Lebell he is full of shit basically!
@@rexrexrex67 well Seagal certainly wasn't 💩💩💩
@@jonnysupreme I say they were both full of shit, but have you ever heard Lebell's interview?that guy is not one fry short of a happy meal or one beer short of a 6 pack,he is completely out to lunch OMG HAHAHAHAHA!!By the way, that wasn't how the story went,what eye witnesses said happened was, Seagal was sitting in a single couch chair and Lebell sneaked up on him from behind and try to choke him out from behind but Seagal managed to escape ,but Lebell says he choked him into shitting himself ,you decide which story was the real truth.I believe Seagal because Lebell tried to do the same thing to the late Bruce Lee but Lee kicked his ass till he begged for Lee to stop. Apparantly Lebell have a bad habit of sneaking up on people when they least expect it ,anyone can do that ,i can do that to you ,it was not a challenged fight let's go outside type situation hehehe!
@@rexrexrex67 Well one of those guys is a known liar that abandon his wife and children.
Based on people who knew Lebell,Lebell was known for sneeking up on people unknowingly from behind and would grab them from behind and try to choke them out,He tried this with Bruce Lee and with Seagal.Lebell is known liar ,bullshitter or exaggerator by many people,not just Seagal but friends of Bruce Lee as well.Even today when you see him being interviewed he is fucked up n the head!Let me ask you this, A sane person i am assuming,who do you know more about ?Steven Seagal,Bruce Lee or GENE LEBELL??When you answer this question honestly,you will have your answer about whether Lebell is telling the truth about his exploits in life! or is he full of shit?
Joe, when are you having Quentin on the show?
Now that would be a podcast worth watching!
Him, Jeremy wade, gordan ramsey and Jackie Chan ✔️✔️
@@yoaogiel8348 and Ron Jeremy.
Tom waits
@@devilsslave1970 I'd jizz to such an episode
"showing off is a fool's idea of glory" - Bruce lee ... he would have kept it simple.
@Zeek Banistor are you serious? Show me once when he acted in such a way
@Zeek Banistor could u provide some sources?
@Zeek Banistor Yeh id like to see the sources, duno about the guys u were arguing with tho. ill give it a like when u post it cuz im just interested in what u have to say lol
@Zeek Banistor You're so full of shit. Your whole argument is obviuously coming from a place of disdain for Lee. You're not a fan and you don't like the status quo narrative about Lee, so you mouth off dispensing inacurrate information that's biased to make him look weak and make those close to him appear as though they're all liers, based on your own opinion of him that you say comes from "sources". I know a lot about Bruce Lee as well. Enough to know your bullshitting about his wife not being there. She was there according to her. You gonna call her a lier about it? And your version of the facts is coming from the side of Jack Man. Linda said that Bruce spend most of the fight chasing him around the room.
Bruce was also won a full contact boxing competition in hong kong in his late teens. Beating the 3 years reigning champ of that competition by ko. This is reported by Linda Lee his wife. I'm not going to assume that she was lying although I'm sure you will.
Does Jackie Chan really know martial arts?
In the next Tarantino movie, Peter Quill Beats Michael Jackson in Moonwalk battle.
I had to look up who Peter Quill was, GTFO of Joe Rogan videos you nerds!
Channing beats Cruz in a robot battle
And everyone's mad because that didn't actually happened
Look at scary movie, they made fun of mj because it's a comedy movie
I think that Michael would win, he was a incredible pro-wrestler ruclips.net/video/Qj6kKiwMEaE/видео.html
my uncle was a military police man in japan during the post war occupation. before he went he was already trained in boxing and Kung Fu. then whilst in japan he learnt judo. he said combining the best bits of each combat style was quite often encouraged and could turn a good fighter into a very good one. i was lucky enough to spend time with him when i was young and like Le Bell he was a monster of a man. when returning from japan his friend told stories of following him into a bar brawl and see guys flying around the room. he told me on numerous occasions that (especially USN and GI's) would always be trying to gain points with their mates by trying to take him on and generally found themselves being carried out. he accredited most of this to being able to combine skills from his different styles and i guess he was right.
Cool?
When I was sent to Ft Benning for basic I was pretty tough, athletic background and had a couple of fistfights behind me. OH BOY 😳 I came across some 'actives' that seriously scared me, made me feel like a chump..
Tarantino did to Bruce Lee what every American director did to him in the 60's, but he did it in 2019.
True
@@natemurphy7758 looks like the jokes in the movies flew right by you genius
@@natemurphy7758 I wasn't just talking about Hollywood,im talking about all of them,he directed Inglorious Bastards where Hitler gets killed in a glorious fashion,he directed Django where a bunch of white slavers get killed,On Hollywood Charles Manson gets killed,these are all events that never happened yet he put them on the screen so people can have fun watching the bad guys of History getting fucked on the big screen,him saying the n word as a character in a movie is not proof he is a racist,you're just being a snowflake
@Jon Bjornssen That's after he became famous...
@@natemurphy7758 I totally agree with you, I don't even know why ppl like his movies, they're so amateur...Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill? Hahaha..
Real life Bruce Lee: “Look at my hand. That’s a little Chinese hand. He[Muhammad Ali]’d kill me.”
Quinton Tarantino's Bruce Lee: "These hands are lethal weapons."
never said that you idiot
THEN WHAT DOES THAT MAKE MUHAMMAD ALI'S HANDS? XD
=)
No disrespect to Ali but Bruce would have kicked his ass bad in a street fight
@@dantemagalhaes9462 idk ali was a big dude. hella tough as well, i think he'd just be too big and strong for lee.
@@savagebrickinc9988 Either could win in a street fight but I would put Lee as the favorite because a street fight is no holds barred.
Imagine looking so much like Bruce Lee that you get cast in a movie to play him and then not win the fight.
Guy didnt look like Bruce at all
@@Roman-tu3vh he did up until he took the glasses off.
He didn't lose the fight though as I remember it was a tie.
@@ozairchishti1264 yeah true
@@ozairchishti1264 of you think he looked that much like Bruce lee then you must have never saw Danny Chan the guy is his twin
He even plays bruce lee in the series on netflix called (The Legend Of Bruce Lee) and plays him on IP Man 3 and 4 as well as a movie that just dropped I forgot the name of it though.
Cliff was DAY DREAMING when he fought Bruce Lee in the movie
People love to forget this
No he wasn't, he was reflecting on losing the job Rick begged to get him
I don't think that changes anything about how tarantino wanted to shit on bruce lee💀
Tarantino did Not say that ever
Joe Rogan needs to interview all the aged martial arts legends before theyre passed on.
That would be creepy. "Hey. Joe Rogan wants you on his show asap!"
He should get Bruce Lee on for sure.
Would love to see JCVD or Seagal on. Not because I like either of them, but just for the sheer awkward of having a guy on Joe has trash talked before.
Gerbil King Great idea.
Bob Wall...Norris...Urquidez...Dan Inosanto...
I was a stuntman back in hollywood in the 60s. Lee was a friendly and entertaining guy not a bragging showoff at all.
Im 73 . I Was fresh 20yr old stuntman in 66 when i worked on The Green Hornet. And i worked on Longstreet in 71 with Bruce also. I got into editing in 79 after a back injury.
@@maximusareilius2262 wow that's awesome. yea there was an interview i saw him on a bike that had "Bruce" on it. Interview showed him very shy, respectful, etc. I think he's arrogant to the people who he didn't like or that made him like a lower class.
Hi Maximus Areilius, do you think Bruce Lee was pushed a side for David Carradine in the tv show Kung Fu? Do you have an idea or heard word of why Bruce Lee was replaced by Carradine? I read that the main role in Kung Fu was his idea to part to act in and was a vehicle to jump start his acting career in the US but the execs in Hollywood passed him over.
@@8kigana its well known he got screwed over on that deal and it pissed bruce lee off.
@@danieldriggers9488 bruce died in 73. Tarantino was born in 63. So he knew him at 10yrs old? 🙄
Tarantino had Hitler gunned down in a theater by 2 jews, and no one was worried about the historical accuracy. Keep that same energy folks.
Killer B because its Hitler
@@MrSunnyyangyang Yeah and Rommel the most Legendary General of the war of the desert couldn't kill the Lunatic with a detonator destroying half a building in real Life, but a bunch of lunatics with no plans gunned down the dude on a theater in the Tarantino movie, I believe it is more far fetch than Bruce lee being beaten down by a stuntman
If they depicted Hitler as a genuinely nice guy and a loving father or some shit like that 'folks' would keep the same energy for sure. What people care more (despite what they say) is that a respected person is depicted as an arrogant prick without any hard evidence. If you didn't get that...
@@게임영상-i8e
It was literally a thought of Cliff's in a movie called "Once upon a time in Hollywood." It was taking the piss, how can anyone not see that.
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Bruce Lee was one of the first martial artist that cast doubt about these traditional Kung fu Sifu’s skills. He laughed at the out of shape ones who claimed their chi went to their belly when it was just fat. With regards to J. Labelle’s grappling skills being able to beat Bruce, it really is academic and debatable. . Look at Ronda Rousey, a judo Olympic medalist who got knocked down by stand up strikers twice.
Look at Khabib 29 - 0
Did you just compare Ronda Rousey to Gene fucking Labelle? I guess it makes sense you'd compare Bruce Lee to a woman though that's basically what he was at 155. If he fought in today's MMA environment he'd get torn in half.
@@drobert1741 Well, it was a different time. 50 years from now, the very same can be said about the fighters of doing being torn apart. But it WAS Bruce that brought the mainstream audience in the west Martial Arts in movies.
when Rhonda used good tactics that emphasized her judo skills, she was unstoppable.
Then, she abandoned Judo because no one in her division could touch her. Then bring in someone who actually knows how to manage distance, Rhonda goes down.
@@drobert1741not surprised you didn't have anything to say after that response lol
Yes, the Bruce Lee and Brad Pitt fight was based on real life. They built a time machine and made the match up. Look into it.
Real shit they just trying to hide the truth....
Pull that up Satan
Faithfull Cheater it’s on RUclips. Look into it
“It’s entirely possible”
Win a real fight Fury
For God's sake ... bring someone who actually met Bruce LEE
Problem there my friend is that guys like Chuck and Dan were really good friends with Bruce, and basically owe their careers to Bruce. They're both nice guys too (met Dan, never met Chuck but by all accounts a nice man).
So, they're not exactly going to come on and go "Yeah, my really good friend Bruce? The guy who gave me these amazing opportunities which changed my life forever? Nah, he couldn't actually fight and he was kind of a jerk a lot of the time".
I'd still like to hear their perspectives, but they're just that: perspectives with heavy bias.
What did Joe say that was infactual? Judo Gene curbstomps Bruce Lee.
@@flyinghole sorry but that is bullshit...
@@mikesweeney5619 Lol in what way? The guy weighed 130pounds.
@@imhatepie like being 130 pounds matters when you were as Skilled as Bruce Lee.....
“I met Bruce when he was working on the television series, Green Hornet,” recalled LeBell. “Benny Dobbins was stunt coordinator for the show and he called and asked me to check out some kid by the name of Bruce Lee. ‘I got this guy who does the same stuff you do,’ Dobbins said. Of course Benny didn’t know the difference between judo and kung fu, but he wanted me to watch this new actor work. One of the first things I noticed was that although Bruce was small, about 130 pounds, he had a tremendous upper body. Bruce was also very fast and wanted to always take the action beyond what the script called for. Once the director called action, he got that and a lot more from Bruce.”
New to American humor, the Chinese actor didn’t know what to make of it when Gene hoisted him over his shoulders and ran up and down the stairs doing a fireman’s carry with Lee draped over his shoulders.
“Stuntmen and wrestlers have their own brand of humor and at first Bruce didn’t take my little joke too kindly,” LeBell said with a chuckle. “Eventually he realized we were just welcoming him into our group and before long he fit right in with the rest of the rowdy stuntmen.”
from the 1950's up till the 1960's the most popular martial arts were from japan specially samurai movies. bruce lee changed all that with the big boss (fists of fury in america). bruce lee's screen presence was incredible, his energy seems to explode from the screen that made it seem so real to the person watching it. there can only be one bruce lee!
Anytime Joe says what would happen if.... I remember he said Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather at boxing and all credibility is lost.
I think he said she'd win a real fight with him which is possible.
@Mitchell Mcnutt
No it's not. You're trying to get ronda hurt. Floyd is not who'd you call, a nice guy.
Looool what nonsense
Mitchell Mcnutt The fact you think a women could beat up a man is hilarious
@@streetsweeper49 I assume you're a man. Can you beat amanda nunes?
You want to know about Bruce Lee, talk to Dan Inosanto, we need him on this show!
And didn’t Bruce actually hit Jackie Chan. On accident. Him too we need him too. I’d rather of them bring up Bruce’s visit to Polanski’s place in that time.
THIS!!!
Bruce Lee was very great but always learning and advancing himself in martial arts. He would have been the greatest if he lived longer to then publicly display himself as a fighter
People who lived with Bruce will only endorse that he was an invincible martial arts demigod.
@@lucascosta-mr4mr if the all people that actually met him are saying that....maybe you should listen
Empty words don’t hit back! - Bruce Lee
Mike he was constantly saying crap like Ali. So it’s possible some people didn’t think highly of him
Mike
Where do people pick up these fake Bruce Lee quotes?
SNAKEPIT359 Bloodsport with Jeanne Claud Van Damme vs. Bolo.
@@makedredd299
Oh that's where it's from ? It was many years ago since I watched Bloodsport. Cheers mate.
Bruce Lee should've said:
"Compliant underlings I use in my demonstrations who I tell to stand there and do nothing so I can punch them don't fight back"
:P :)
Joe pretending this didn't happen in his talk with Tarantino
This was a year ago
"Put me down or I'll kill you!"
"I can't put you down, or you'll kill me"
lmao. Nice
Sounds like Princess Bride dialogue lol, what is it from?
@@Kier4n99 which fight, green hornet?
@@cannonfodder4000 During the filming of Green Hornet, Bruce Lee was hitting the stuntmen for real (like in Hong Kong movies). The producers didn't like it, so they asked Gene LeBell to teach him a lesson. While filming, LeBell caught Lee off-guard and caught him in a hold. That's when Lee and LeBell had that exchange, with Lee saying he'll "kill" him if he doesn't put him down and LeBell joking back "don't kill me, champ." Lee then realized he was lacking grappling skills, so he trained with LeBell and learnt Judo, incorporating it into his Jeet Kune Do style.
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@@RazorEdge2006 That's all true from what I've read but you don't just "learn" judo. It's not like you spend an afternoon with a judo master and then be like "ay man, I got it." It's a discipline that takes years to master. Gene LeBell teaching Bruce Lee a few moves does not equate to Bruce Lee "learning judo."
Bring Chuck Norris on the show he has met and worked with him
Omg yes this! Bring in Chuck Norris, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Jackie Chan too! (throw in Dan Inosanto as well)
Chuck has changed his stories over the years about Bruce. His pride will not allow him to say Bruce was better then him.
Would love to see Chuck but... Bruce was a great friend of Chuck. He basically made Chuck's movie career. They were really good friends by all accounts. Chuck is also a nice guy. Basically what I'm saying is he's unlikely to say anything negative about the guy. While I'm not dismissing Chuck's opinion, he's not exactly an unbiased source. But would love to hear him on JRE.
@@iorekby you already have said negative things about Bruce
@@BBBYpsi
That's open to interpretation. I haven't drank the Bruce Lee Kool Aid, I will say that. That said, it's besides the point. The point is about the objectivity of a source of information that a lot of people are putting stock in.
The actor had the perfect bone structure and facial features to portray Bruce Lee, I couldn't tell the different with his shades on.
Yeah except Bruce Lee had a totally different physique- way less fat on him (not that the actor was in bad shape)
Yea thats because all asians look alike
Except he was portraying 60's Bruce as if he were 70's Bruce. Big, big difference between the two.
I was only kidding, im asian so i dont think that, although i do think white people look alike haha. They should have gotten afganistan bruce lee to do it. This guy literally looks like lee
Looked nothing like Bruce Lee at all. More like a character version of him.
Those scenes were all Alternate History. What if scenes. LOL that’s why it’s called Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
YummyBaer 👍🏻
I think everybody gets that. but people definitely have the right to criticize the amazing tarantino for his mockery of a historical figure. whats really sad is that if any director would have made muhammed ali look like a buffoon the outrage would be tremendous. its definitely biased and thats the core issue of people
Did you watch the vid or are you just responding to the title..?
Exactly
@@emelz.6895 just saw the title.
My dog smoked dmt earlier today. Now I woke up at 3 am to find him watching the Joe Rogan Podcast.
Joe Rogan with a time machine. “Bruce Lee, have you ever tried DMT?”
stickyfingaz745 stop- I’m done with the DMT jokes it’s unoriginal and hasn’t been funny for months now
No bruce lee just used coke and weed or hash
So fucking unfunny
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@@metalligeek093 funny*
Tarantino thinks Bruce Lee is a jerk. Tarantino was friends with Harvey Weinstein for decades, so he must be a great judge of character!
Tarantino is a little bitch. Last time I heard about him, a few years ago, he was complaining about people capitalizing off of violence or something. LOL. That's exactly how he became rich and famous.
Choco Manger I don't remember him complaining about that, you got any sources for that?
evagrubb
They are both ugly ( Weinstein and Tarrantula ) for Weinstein was the only way to become sex, ropes women.
Bruce Lee was, is a icon he can have all this women’s without violence !“
This is the the way of fighting without fighting !
Tarrantula is nothing Brad and Di Caprio are nothing compared to Bruce Lee.
This is calculated to earns mo cinema payer, earned more money with this sacrifice ( Bruce was beaten from Brad 😂😂😂).
Sad, sad, sad.
I have liked Brad but no more !
Tarantino also defended polanski against raping a 13 year old girl
To be fair, everyone was friends with wienstein, everyone thought he was fantastic when he was making everyone lots of money, right up to the point the shit hit the fan with hashtag# then everyone drop him like a hot potato?
From the book cited by Tarantino, regarding Bruce Lee, stuntmen and the "incident" with Gene LeBell:
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'He had never done elaborate fight choreography on film-his childhood Hong Kong movies were melodramas, not action flicks. Onstage, Bruce dealt with three-dimensional space and an audience viewing from every angle. To sell a punch or kick, he had to land within millimeters of the target, what he called “non-contact gung fu.” But The Green Hornet stuntmen were all veterans of Westerns. “It was a two-dimensional thing where you had the camera over your shoulder,” says Van Williams. “You could stand three feet away from your opponent and swing, and if the guy reacted correctly and the sound effects were right, it looked perfect. Bruce could never get used to working that far apart.” Bruce insisted on close quarters combat. The stuntmen hated it.
They weren’t fast enough to react to him, and as a result, occasionally got banged up. “They got to the point where they didn’t want to work on that show,” Williams recalls. “They were tired of getting hurt.” “Judo” Gene LeBell, a legendary pro wrestler, world-class judoka, and the stunt coordinator on-set, was assigned the task of calming Bruce down. “Bruce would hit you in ten different spots and as a stuntman you wouldn’t know whether to grab your jaw and say that hurt or your stomach,” says LeBell.
“We did our best to slow Bruce Lee down because the Western way was the old John Wayne way where you reach from left field, tell a story, and then you hit the man. Bruce liked to throw thirty-seven kicks and twelve punches.” When reasoning didn’t work, LeBell took to joshing Bruce. “In pro wrestling, they call it ‘the swerve.’ It’s how far you can tease and get away with it,” LeBell explains. “I’d tell him he put too much starch in my shirt.” One day as part of the general joking and roughhousing atmosphere on set, the stuntmen egged LeBell into picking “the little guy up.” LeBell yanked Bruce onto his shoulder in a Crouching Nelson hold-upside down with one hand around the back. Then he slowly walked him around the set. “Put me down!” Bruce yelled. “I’m going to kill you!” “I’m not going to let you down.” “Why?” “Because you are going to kill me.”
Despite the difference in temperament, the two men became friends. “I reckon I teased him so much I eventually got him to loosen up a little,” LeBell says. To Bruce’s credit, he was so obsessed with perfecting his martial arts he put up with the hazing to learn from LeBell. Bruce offered to exchange lessons: kungfu for judo and (Catch) wrestling. “I showed him some legitimate finishing holds, leg locks, arm locks,” LeBell recalls. “He told me he used one of my holds on Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.”'
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Matthew Polly, Bruce Lee: A Life (page 186-7, Kindle Edition)
That’s not how you cite.
@@bucketstuck7137 you do it then
@@reth4761 APA or MLA
@@bucketstuck7137 It really doesn't matter
Thanks for posting this excerpt. It seems like they were good pals, despite Bruce’s serious temperament and Bell’s bantering nature.
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to call out Bruce Lee for the Underworld Lightweight Title
And easily win.
Not this time Ferguson the type of guy people. Member tony still the guy not to get a title shot o.
Rolando Ortiz gn
Tony the type of guy to trap farts in a jar just so he can experience farting on his own face.
5:09 "Where did he learn it?" Bruce Lee was taught by Yip Man. Shame on Joe Rogan for not remembering and mentioning this.
do u mean judo
He also learn a lot from Chen his street fighting partner in Hong Kong, even if Gene had grabbed up Bruce from behind it wouldn't have done much to Bruce and he would have found a way out of any locks or holds Gene had on him. Then Bruce would have jumped back and then forwards in the fencing stance and proceeded to slap Le Belle. Ding DING. How do I know it went like this? because all of Bruce's fighting friends became his students including Lebelle by regularly going to his DoJo not the other way around. Joe also failed to note that Bruce often spent 16 hours a day in and around the gym and could dead lift over 700lbs. That's the equivalent of Joe going down to 130lbs and making that dead lift. Personally I can't see doing anyone of those things can you?
@@kyleday5026 No, not Japanese Judo, which is grappling. Yip Man practiced Wing Chun, a Southern Chinese Kung fu style, which emphasized relaxed but quick hands.
@Utös Utös you ultimately speak of what Bruce constantly strived for in life, balance.
Bruce picked up only some steps until 7 from Ip Man, it's Bruce who mixed wing chung with striking and grappling to develope eventualy JKD, so the only one who made Bruce was Bruce himself...no ip man, no gene lebelle or chuck norris...it's not the technique but the man behind the technique that makes it efficient
Bruce Lee would have never bragged like that in real life especially to someone like Gene a warriors mutual respect
I believe the Bruce Lee scene sets up the end of the film.If Brad's charecter can be competition for Bruce Lee then it's believable that he could thwart the Manson followers at the end of the film.
you know it
One person brought up this possibility - the scene was Cliffs own recollection of the situation, therefore it might have been that he recalled him to be arrogant and uppity because he views Lee as a pretentious poser, which would make his memory of the circumstance an inaccurate representation of what Actually happened.
Tarantino literally uses real quotes in that film
It certainly does not make any sense that Lee calls his own student Joe Lewis an A**hole. What sensei would call a student an A**hole?
The part that I feel like Joe Rogan, and a lot of other people might be misunderstanding about this particular scene in the movie, that scene was shot with the intention of portraying a fantasy. If you re-watch the movie, it shows Brad Pitt's character on the roof fixing something for Leonardo DiCaprio's character, then they go to that scene where Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked, and then they pop back to the same guy and he's back on the roof.
Again, misconception about Bruce Lee's martial arts. It is NOT a combination of best things from different martial arts. Bruce Lee's first choice in a fight was a fingerjab to the eyes. Than it doesn't matter how strong you are. "Finger Jab is the most effective attack." -Bruce Lee
Hi Landsmann! :-D
Ich weiss eigentlich sollen die Leute hier Englisch schreiben aber ich hab gerade keine Lust. Wir zwei verstehen uns ja.
Hast Recht mit dem was Du schreibst. Ich kann auch langsam nicht mehr verstehen, warum dieser Irrglaube sogar im Ami-Land immer noch präsent ist.
Aber Rogan hat halt auch keine Ahung von Lee, musst ihn mal hören wie er zultzt mit Brendan Schaub gesprochen hat, die haben einfach 0 Plan wer BL wirklich war und was er konnt wenn s drauf ankam.
LeBell gegen Lee ist vom Speed wie Bagger gegen Ferraro der Elefant gegen Gephard, nie im Leben würden Gene den packen können, ausser wenn Lee vorher ne Flasche Schnaps trinken muss, dann schon da er kein Alkohl vertrug. :-D
Grüße von einem Landsmann, ich weiss Du bist TM (Initialien), wir hatten Anfang 2017 auch mal gemailt.
from what i read about bruce lee he was the best jim kelly said he was unbelievable and a brilliant martial artist and it did not matter what size and he sparred with other martial artists he did not mention who they were also i read that bruce lee had very strong core and high chi and he once said the best fighter is someone who is best at grappling judo etc www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/bwkqlr/why_they_call_bruce_lee_the_godfather_of_mixed/ also joe lewis said he was the fastest most power person that stood in front of him i think because gene labell was taller and different weight and had championships people assume he would be better because he was taller
True. But SSF IFO JKD GER only mentioned it is simply NOT true that Lee mixed different MAs together like a salade bar and this is JKD.
@@NDoraku das stimmt..
@@kyleday5026 "High chi" Hahahaha, get the fuck out of here.
Bruce Lee
“My style? You can call it the art of fighting without fighting.”
― Bruce Lee
OR mind f**king someone."we'll take that boat go to that island,You first." HEHEHEHE
Yes, completely different persona to the way Tarantino portrayed him. From stoic philosopher to rambling clown/bully.
Upjumpsthefunk Enter The Dragon🖤. My favorite Bruce Lee movie ever. Respect.
@@Devlin000 yup,Mr.lee your skills are extraordinary.Your battle with guards magnificent.I was going to ask you to join us.Then Washington,said I was strate out of a comic book.I F**K him up and killed him.Hahahaha😜(or sumthing like that🤔)
Hank Moodkiller facts once you get to that island 🌴 it’s a wrap lol
Tarantino on Kill Bill: " I'm gonna use his Inspiration and fight scene from Fists of Fury " Also Tarantino " Let's make a mockery of his legend when I release Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Both turned out to be very fake... I dunno why ppl watch his movies.
@Edwin C. Hmmm, I do like watching movies that are MORE realistic! Does Scarface and Enter the Dragon give u nightmares? Pulp Fiction & Kill Bill are more childish than cartoons! Tarantino is even worse! I can't imagine how his breath smells like... LOL
MAYBE THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR LIL KIDS LIKE U! Have fun riding ur marry go round!
@Edwin C. Since u like watching Tarantino's kids movie, U R A KID!
Even Ice Princess is more adult than Tarantino's fantasy gangster & Kung Fu flicks!
It's actually quite disturbing that u like watching his movies... sick!
Imagine watching Tarantino movies looking for realistic interpretations of history
Tony Peterson what a fuckin clown you look like taking this high ground talking about how tarantino movies are bad. yes totally one of the most well known writer/directors of the last 40 years actually makes bad kid movies and we’re all wrong and you have the superior taste in movies 🤡
Bruce also focused on his core in ways that influenced modern fitness as well.
And your also forgetting that Gene himself said that he went to Bruce’s dojo and learned from him!
I imagined khabib vs connor dominance.
So did all the champs of the time like Mike Stone, Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, etc. At one time the top 5 champs were all getting trained by Bruce.
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 This old myth again. *eye roll* They were not getting "trained" by Bruce Lee. They were training TOGETHER. As both Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis have said: Bruce was not a fighter, he was an actor.
@@scottcarroll9201 You're wrong and haven't read anywhere near as much on the subject as I have. Chuck definitely acknowledged getting trained by Bruce. Joe Lewis didn't say that either. In fact he lifted his five ways of attack directly from Bruce Lee.
@@scottcarroll9201 they never said that lmao
Ronda Rousey is an extremely high level Judo practitioner trained by Gene. Look what happened to her against high lvl strikers.
Not saying Gene couldn’t smash Lee. Just saying you can’t unbiasedly say one way or the other when one is a friend and someone you admire like Joe and Gene “Everyone has a plan until their punched in the face” Lee was fast AsF! Would Gene still want to grab him after eating 3-10 shots to the face? We’ll never know
That's where it could have been interesting. Bruce would need to land many and quickly. From what little I know about Gene, the size and strength advantage would be a big factor. And, Bruce's lack of ground game. Hey, we'll never know, but many of these hypotheticals would be very interesting to watch if it were possible.
That's assuming that Lee could land 3-10 shots to the face, and whether they'd actually do much damage.
One thing people rarely factor in is that, while a fellow martial artist recognizes great speed in others, he doesn't see it as being as fast as civilians do when you're squaring off against it because you're used to speed.
It's comparable to how a 95 mph fastball looks insanely fast to someone who is not used to stepping into the box against (and, in my case, catching) 95 mph fastballs.
And Lee's got to keep a distance to land his shots. A grappler might not feel it's a good strategy to allow an opponent to remain at an ideal striking distance. :)
That's because Rhonda tried to strike with them. Not sure why you use that in comparison. Had they try to Grapple with her I'm sure it would have been a different outcome
Baddast mofo in the Cul-De-Sac she attempted to grapple with Holm and Nunes. With Holm she got taken down and each time she got in range she got lit up. Same with Nunes.
And why would they try to grapple with her? We’re not talking about a grappling match.
You seem to also fail to understand that there was a time fighters did not know how to defend takedowns. Despite what you may think. No one is born with those skills. Again, bad comparison. Rousey is far from a grappler. She does nothing but grab, throw and sweep. She never tried to grapple with anyone
Joe Rogan has lost his touch. As if Bruce Lee would be so stupid as to underestimate Gene. Gene was his friend first and foremost. Gene loved Bruce, theres a video on youtube.
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MrTruboy Rogan’s kick will banish your soul to another dimension, wtf you mean
@ Video Master, Labell wouldn't last 2 minutes. Bruce would shoot two fast oblique kicks to the knee, followed by a roundhouse, then an elbow to his temple
MrTruboy Rogan has more competition credentials than Bruce Lee, has trained with some of the top fighters in the world, and commentated for the biggest mma organisation in the world. But apparently "he isn't a real fighter".
It's worth noting that LeBell was a x2 US Judo heavyweight champion, and back then the heavyweight limit was between 80kg and 93kg. Or 176lbs to 205lbs. Given that Lebell also wrestled with a bear, I'm guessing he was closer to the high end of the heavyweight scale.
Look at the size of the dude: He was large and was hard as nails, a former catch wrestler, and Judo expert.
ruclips.net/video/n9mER2BmNRA/видео.html
www.ozy.com/true-story/debunking-quentin-tarantinos-mockery-of-bruce-lee/95956
It would be arrogant to presume the outcome of any fight. But... I'd be more surprised if LeBell lost vs Bruce Lee back in the day.
One of Bruce Lee's close friends was Jhoon Rhee who was Korean taekwondo master. Rhee shared his kicking technique with him which Bruce Lee incorporated into his fighting style and Bruce Lee taught Jhoon Rhee his lightning fast punch. Lee's technique was so amazingly fast that Rhee dubbed it the "Accupunch". At one point he demonstrated it to Muhammed Ali who couldn't block it so he asked Rhee to teach it to him.
We need to convince Joe to get Dan inosanto on his pod cast somehow I think it would be a fantastic interview...please make it happen Joe. ..Who's with me?
pistolchimp make it happen Joe!
@L Franco me either lol
So old hearing about who could have beat Bruce Lee. Give the guy a break. He has no way to respond.
"O'Hara!"
@@Cagon415 😂😂😂👍
@@Cagon415 man you are straight out of a comic book
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@@Cagon415 he said that just to make Bolo say "hà"
“Hey George it’s me, Cliff Booth”
“John Wilkes?”
Bruce asked Gene LeBell to teach him, he shared his stuff with him, and then later Bruce wanted to create a Hong Kong Stuntmen’s Association
Nobody:
Joe Rogans head: ☀️☀️☀️
Hahahaha
Fucking lols man
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Frank Crespo he’s a Leo, ruled by the SUN....and people don’t believe astrology.
So majestic...
Bruce Lee was so ahead of his time, he had the MMA mindset way before MMA.
He invented MMA mam.
@George Waters Bruce knocked down Joe Lewis with a one inch punch. Also Joe Lewis himself said that Bruce Lee could fuck him up any day. So yeah. Bruce fought one guy for real on camera, a real fight at that, and he fucked him up.
@JED ferdinand obviously he would get beat mate. He was till ahead of his time with an mma mindset. Why don't you stop hating on him and tell people who think he could beat the shit out of everyone that he wasn't all that. He got trained in wing chin which is a bs martial arts and when he found out he started learning other crap plus putting all that other crap together loosely - mma mindset.
@JED ferdinand Invent isnt really the word but more like a pioneer. There was no real MMA back then while his fighting style was trying to mix the good parts of different martial arts, making him kind of a godfather of MMA
Chuck Norris enters chat
Bruce can back up anything he said with real life fighting.
This is the same guy that said Deontay Wilder would beat Tyson Furey in a rematch 😂
Whats wrong? Everyone has their opinions who's gonna win.
@@nr1NPC Dude Bruce would kick you and Joe's Butt. Now move it our lose sister.!!
@@thomasfurey00 COOR STOLY, TERR ME MO'E ABOUR IT
@@nr1NPC sister sister it's OK now. I think Bruce is best.
@@thomasfurey00 lol no , it's a gimmick , bruce knows how to use kayfabe . basically he's just a pro-wrestler taking a gimmick to another level.
he has no legit fight record nor even a sparring session with anyone , he's famous video doing anything physical is the one inch punch that is basically a shove.
and he's so called teacher is a hoax too . dude came from a family of actors for theaters and operatic singers. he knows how to work the crowd. and during his time kayfabing a character is popular in the entertainment business like how would professional wrestlers did back in the day to keep their legitimacy.
bruce lee had nothing to do with the popularity of mma today or even martial arts in general. he is one of the many thousands of hoax from the old chinese "grand masters" to the mcdojos of americas. he name is just kept alive cause it still sell merchandise.
Tom Papa is the most clueless guest and yes-man ever.
The only thing he got seriously opinionated was Stranger Things reference. Turned out he never knew what 'reference' actually is.
Brendan Schuab has some competition with Tom Papa.
"Yeah", "right","exactly!" on a loop for 2 hrs.
@@DapperCracker512 lol ya, but at least Schuab is stupid in a funny way, Tom Papas interviews just make you angry at his stupidity.
What a loser right? Imagine having a dad like that worthless life
Tarantino has an axe to grind?
Django Unchained was heavily censored after been banned in Chinese cinemas.
And more of his movies were banned and censored in China so maybe for him a motivation to get even and vent his frustration on a beloved chinese cinematic icon.
Just my two cents.
I think Tarantino is a Putz but I don't think he would hold china censoring his films today into hating Bruce Lee.(And I also think Bruce is way over rated by fanboys when they are comparing him to modern MMA guys in a fight)
But Bruce Lee was more of a Hong Kong star than "China." Oh well ...
A lot of people forget this scene is in Cliff’s head. He is sitting on the roof and remembering. So it’s from his memory and his POV.
No no the let people who’ve never seen the movie just the scene say Tarantino is racist and a pos
Anyone who spent some time researching Bruce Lee,knows that he would never trashtalk on Mohammad Ali or any other boxer in general.
It is well known,that Bruce Lee was a big box fan and admired Ali.There are interviews by Bolo Yeung and Joe Lewis,where they say that Bruce was studying Ali´s technique and specially his footwork.There´s even an interview where they ask Bruce Lee if he could take down Ali in a fight. He answers: "In a proper boxing fight,I wouldn´t stand a chance against Ali,just compare his hands with mine.In a streetfight,without any rules where anything goes,maybe I could win but that´s all hypothetical."
Apparently bruce's wife wrote in her first biography, he believed he would best Ali in a fight. Source is quentin tarantino
@@abzi03 maybe bruce personally believed that but was respectful and proessional enough to not say it. or maybe it was just another exaggeration.
@@abzi03 Tarantino also is still a bestie of Harvey Weinstein,that says all.
I love Bruce, but everybody knows he could be pretty arrogant some times. Also, he was very confident on his own abilities. I could see him stating that he could defeat Alí.
@@abzi03 "Source is quentin tarantino" xD
tarantino has problems with reading comprehension, because bruce's wife was quoting a critic, it was something that some critic said, not bruce himself
Google Gene's interviews about Bruce - you'll hear from Gene that he had respect for him as a martial artist and a man.
Never forget that Bruce was a street fighter too. That's where he got the nickname 'Little Dragon'. The guy knew how to kick ass an not just in the movies. Plus legs are a lot more powerful than arms. Anyone who's ever taken a good kick vs. a good punch knows that. You can't grapple someone if their kicking your head off it's block.
He sparred kickboxing heavywieght champ joe lewis frequently
@@WarElephantTactical he never sparred with Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis says he never even saw Bruce spar.
Bruce was not a street fighter.
@@cuzz63 ruclips.net/video/AXdG577px94/видео.html skip to 1:48 and then allow him to explain the rest buddy
@@cuzz63 he got in alot of fights in his younger years aswell as multiple sources confirm this
I think it's pretty safe to say Tarantino was just goofing on the idea of any possible LeBell/Lee early interaction.
Hollywood still fears what Bruce Lee offered up...
Let me put it this way. Bruce passed away 50 years ago but his legacy still live on. I wonder how many Vlogers/Podcast people will be remembered after 50 years once they leave this world unless he/she an extraordinary human being.
""The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering" Bruce Lee
Gene Lebell on Bruce Lee: I met Bruce Lee for the first time during the filming of the TV show The Green Hornet, on which he played a butler. He was a nice fellow. The stunt coordinator hired me, and I worked on quite a few episodes. During that time, I was able to get to know Bruce a little bit, and we even worked out together. He was the best martial artist of his time.
Bruce and I had a bond with the martial arts, and we would get together frequently. We worked out about 10 to 12 times at his place in Los Angeles’ Chinatown and at my place.
When I went to his place, he showed me what he did, and I showed him what I did. Although he seemed to love the finishing holds of grappling, it just wasn’t commercially attractive at the time. Actually, it was because of my grappling and tumbling background that I was hired to do the television show - because I could take falls for Bruce.
Bruce Lee was an entertaining fellow who was very knowledgeable and very good at what he did. People may wonder just how good a martial artist he was. Well, as I said earlier, he was the best of his time. Also, many of his former students are doing very well today. That’s a sign that he was a good martial artist and that he was able to make his students into good martial artists.
It might seem weird but Bruce Lee probably the only person in Hollywood I think I've ever really had true respect for. I'm like everybody else he understands what being a stuntman is and how hard it is on their bodies while everybody else just kind of take that for granted.
Bruce Lee might have been small but he was strong and fast.
“Bruce Lee was a small guy” Joe Rogan is like, an inch taller than him
So? I'm sure joe Rogan can point out someone is a small guy while also being aware that hes not a big guy himself, and I think he meant his height and build
Rock Huerta Bruce Lee weighed 145 at his heaviest. Joe Rogan weighs 200lbs. Yes Bruce was a small guy.
@@IsthisMike Bruce was 32 and like nobody fat. Bruce was 5'8 did you weigh him back then?
msw51995 no but his autobiography said he was 145lbs at his heaviest. So yeah he was small.
Bruce Lee would have knocked the DMT out of rogan's bald head. Rogan is barely above retarded people.
Joe has actually said he doesn't know much about Bruce Lee
He made bad movies
"Put me down or I'll kill you!" "I can't put you down cause you'll kill me!". Lol. It reminds me of me and my brother fighting and saying silly crap when we were kids.
hypotheticals, no one knows who would've won in a fight between Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Just like no one would know who would win in a fight between Ali in his prime and Tyson in his prime. Everyone has a right to say what they think but that doesn't mean it would happen.
Ali and Tyson were both real fighters. Gene Lebell was a real fighter and Lee was a movie fighter. Lebell would have killed him.
Bruce Lee's philosophy hits harder than his fists. ...be like water, my friend... epic
This is a none topic. Bruce Lee was an expert in Martial Arts. interviews of people who were on the set... Bolo Yeung, Jackie Chan and others have said Bruce was the real deal. Bolo in an interview said “I challenged Bruce and went I woke up.” HIS WORDS. And Tarantino is just a 70’s era director.
Martial arts are good for movies and hundred pound little asians that want to think they are tough lol.
@eddie green @Magister M I can’t believe you are a fanboy
The point is, Joe Rogan has never met Bruce Lee before. Anything he says about him is fantasy.
Bruce Lee got Joe into podcasting before mic's were called suckers
The way I heard this story was on the 1st day on set of "The Green Hornet" an AD or asst producer pointed out Bruce Lee to Gene LeBell and told him that Bruce was a "karate" guy and to go over and prank him. Gene went over to Bruce grabbed him in a "Fireman's Carry" and started running around the set with Bruce on his shoulders. Bruce got very angry and told Gene to put him down or he would kill him. Gene kept running around the set. Bruce said "Are you going to put me down or not?" and Gene said "No, if I put you down you'll kill me." Bruce started laughing and Gene put him down and their friendship was born. I don't know if this story is true or accurate but it was the story I heard.
just a story
Hey Joe, this illustrates a very important point in life: the ideological are scared and incapable of learning. They are ego driven, and use the emotion of "knowledge" to maintain a culture of fiction, in which they: know what's going on, and are in control.
Love your work Joe, thank you.
David Weeks, Tampa, Florida.
"Gene was huge, a bear (178cm), Bruce Lee was small (172cm)." There is a difference, but not that big.
And maybe 50lbs
Except size is not all about height
@@seangannon1025 50 lbs is a huge weight advantage against a guy that weighs 135.
@@alphanerd7221 exactly
But Bruce Lee was fast. Speed is strength.
I would take Joe seriously when speaking of Gene Lebell but I can’t forget this is the same guy who said Rousey would beat Mayweather....
Mixed martial artist has a massive advantage to even the finest boxer in free fight, that's just a fact of life. It doesn't matter how good you strike if you cannot defent from the rear naked choke my man.
Isn't this the same guy that said Ronda Rosey would be Mayweather but she could not even beat women that beat the snot out of her and knocked her out cold
She would in a ufc fight but not a boxing match, different decplence.
@@roberttauzer7042 Of course, when Rousey faced women who could really box, the only only ground game was the game of how often Rousey could hit the ground.
Exactly,
Imagine Bruce Lees foot int QTs face
Hed lick it
"Where did Bruce Lee learn?"...No mention of Ip Man?
Seriously, the fucking LEGENDARY Ip Man! If ya'll don't know who he is, the guy's had a trilogy made about him which can be easily found on Netflix
When he fought against a Kung Fu instructor in San Francisco, they said he beat the guy using the same four moves from Win Chung over and over. Most of Jeet Kun Do's punches stance, and blocks he modified from Ip Man's teachings.
@kmden Rt Ip Man was very well respected even during his own time, and he instructed several well known and accomplished students one of which was Bruce Lee. The Ip Man trilogy is loosely based on his life because it's a movie, they take liberties, but Ip Man was an incredible martial artist in his own right. MMA is relatively new, and MMA has an advantage over any single martial art discipline as each discipline has it's weaknesses while MMA much like Jeet Kune Do tries to take the best from every discipline. That doesn't mean Ip Man wasn't a legendary martial artist.
Bruce Lee was taught some of the Wing Chun system/concepts by Wong Shun Leung not Ip Man. Ip Man by then had delegated teaching to his senior students.
@kmden Rt today wing chun is a bullshit martial art? What do you mean lol, it's been around for awhile, if you mean it's not effective against MMA, well, duh. Most martial arts aren't, because it's a single discipline vs MMA which is many disciplines. You can't say that masters of kung fu and wing chun are bullshit martial artists because when they go against MMA, which is very new compared to most martial arts, they can't compete. Just like Jeet Kune Do, it was very innovative at the time, and it heavily influenced MMA in the idea that you take the best from all martial art disciplines.
Bruce lee taught everybody to fuckin dodge and move. Hes the goat. He was the first recognized to open his mind on different styles. And he just had ties to hollywood to mainstream it. Huge Bruce lee fan. He still the goat in my eyes
Bruce would have pulverised lebel
Bruce Lee made B movies everything else is a story
Gene Lebell is underrated, he actually fought a boxer to show the effectiveness of his skill.
A lot of people seem to miss the fact that Bruce Lees scene in that movie was in Cliffs imagination the whole time.
When they asked Fedor Emilianenko which style of fighting he finds the most effective, he answered: Judo
Everyone always asks "How would Bruce Lee have done in MMA?" and my real question is "Would MMA have ever come to be without the influence of Bruce Lee?". He's one of the fathers of MMA whether people realize it or not.
Very quick and tight offense from a smaller athletic entity vs a large open, wide condensing monstrous Mike Tyson of the soft way.
Current MMA and other combat sports really limits a lot of the incredible striking techniques of traditional martial arts that are meant for fights that last less than 30 seconds really. That's why out of the many KungFu styles, SanDa (very similar to MT) is the only popular one in modern combat sports. (Also fake "masters" being more common than real ones have tarnished the art)
Think about it, for strikers, you're limited because the gloves reduces the damage you deal. Grapplers aren't really limited in any way.
I feel like this really applies to Bruce too. His striking capability is hindered by gloves meaning he's going to be fighting a prolonged fight he probably isn't used to. Street fighting is very different than MMA fighting and I think Bruce would be a fish out of water.
It would have
@@Gongolongo He wasn't just a striker. And he got in more fights as a kid growing up in Kowloon than most MMA fighters their whole lives, so I think he knew how to take a punch. Plus, he trained in Ju Jitsu and wrestling as well. He just showed off striking ability only in the movies, because that's what people wanted to see. He did show it in the movies with his fight against Kareem Abdul Jabar. And no, I'm not saying that was a real fight.
Saying Bruce Lee was just a striker, a Kung Fu artist, or inexperienced in real world fighting is, bluntly, fucking ignorant, and shows most people never read his real history or that told by those close to him, like Poteet, or Inosanto, or some actual boxers of the day. Judging him just by watching his movies is plain stupid.
Yes it would have because it was already around before Bruce was even born with Vale Tudo, Pankration, Leitai matches, early 1800's boxing (which combined wrestling and grappling), Bartitsu, Jack Dempsey's strong teachings on cross training martial arts, and more.
MMA wouldn't have been as popular for sure, but it's predecessors were around and active long before Bruce Lee. Dana White basically grabbed hold of Bruce Lee as the father of MMA narrative to win over the TMA fighters and it gave birth to the modern idea of him being the father of MMA and helped to launch MMA's popularity way higher than it would have ever been had they not used Bruce as a marketing tool.
Just watched an interview with Joe Lewis and he credits Lee with his development of kick boxing because Lewis was sick of point fights. He recalls how strong Lee was when he held a 75lb bar out with straight arms in a horse stance and held it there. He said he was incredibly strong
I seen Bruce Lee with them nunchucks never seen nothing like that before he's a great.
Pathologically lying is an illness
@@ILTSC43 he's talking the video on the internet dip shit
Joe "I've known Gene LeBell for years" Rogan
I was incredibly disappointed that Tarantino didn't have the stunt man beat the $#&@ out of Charles Manson!
what Tarantino film are they referring to?
@@JonathanLittle001 Once upon a time in hollywood
@@Blackhawk211 manson wasn't in the film
@@clintonkildepsteen3982 yes he was. for one scene. he stalked polanskis house and said "hey" to sharon tate
@akshay Viswambharan fuck off
This is why Bruce Lee never fought in tournaments because he said Fighting in a sport and fighting on the street are two different things, there are no rules on the street.
THANK YOUU.
Just listened to the Quentin Tarantino interview with Joe and he explained this scene pretty well! I get what he was talking about.
Cause you are an ill informed person who believes everything your told
My dad was a state tournament high school, and U.S. Navy wrestler, and wrestled with me from the time I could crawl.
I started Tae Kwon Do at 14 years old, and when we sparred I kept asking the owner of the dojo why I couldn't defend myself, if we were learning self-defense. He would tear me to pieces, verbally, about the, "impurity," and the, "dirty," fighting I was distracting everyone with.
I would show my dad what I'd learned, and 1.5 seconds later I would be on my back with my arm between my legs.
"That working for you?"
"That's what I keep trying to tell them," I would reply, hoping to allow for a decrease in the pressure on my crotch.
Two years in, I accidently connected on the wide open nose of the, "star pupil," and though I apologized for hitting what he left open, my reward for training him for what he'd see in tournaments a month later (he was shut out in his only fight in his only tournament), was to have my right knee thrust kicked backwards. Six months of physical therapy, after surgery, and returned to the school long enough to put every single student's back flat on the mat with basic takedowns: one day, less than two hours.
A family friend who had recently retired from a very specialized role in the U.S. Navy heard about my situation. I began ten years of training with him regularly. He had studied not only wrestling and Tae Kwon Do, but Judo, Ju Jitsu, Kung Fu from several very different practitioners, a bit of Muay Thai, and something I had never heard of called Krav Maga. I was amazed. What made sense to me was to use what your brain could learn and your body could use.
I remember asking in Tae Kwon Do, when being shown three techniques for kicks to your opponent's head, " this takes too long, it won't be effective in a real fight! It makes as much sense as punching someone in the foot!"
I got an angry glare, but no answer.
I've been in a lot of fights. Far too many. I had many people try head kicks, and every one of them lost the fight soon after.
Thanks, Dad!!!
Metalbass10000 but has joe try to kick you
Ummm ... okay.
To much time on ur hands
Most men confuse fighting and self-defense. In self-defense you should always use a weapon unless you cannot; only a drooling moron would agree to flush his life down the toilet to feel like a fake tough guy for a moment and take on someone unarmed. Hence the saying "nobody is stupider than a young man" because lots of young men would love to flush their life down the shitter like that. If, however, you are being confronted and don't have a weapon then a head kick has been proven to work many times. The thing about an offense like that is that once it connects, it's bound to do some damage or pain whereas in judo and wrestling there are holds that give your opponent plenty of time to think and bite and twist and squeeze your vulnerable areas. They neglect the importance of the element of surprise, which is crucial in self-defense and meaningless in ego fighting.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I have never heard a saying, nobody is stupider than a young man," but anyone who says that proves their own stupidity. And arrogance. Have you ever heard the phrase, "nobody stupider than someone who insult someone they don't even know?"
Did you even understand anything that I said? Taekwondo "teacher" wanted to teach me a bunch of forms and things that are not useful in self-defense. When someone attacks me I am now in a fight.. If I am walking out of a building and a a person throws a kick or a punch at me I am now in a fight. I never said I wouldn't use a weapon, in fact in Krav Maga if you look at what I said it is about learning in your brain what your body can do and it encourages knowing your surroundings and using anything you can see to your advantage to end the situation as quickly as possible.
I've been in 138 fights in my life. I've had probably 16 or 17 people throw kicks at my head and every one of those people ended up on their backs. You want the element of surprise? Try throwing a kick at the head of a person trained to defend themselves and you'll be surprised how fast the back of your skull get bounced off the ground. To say that they had time to twist or grab, no they did not. Because before they hit the ground I was beginning my next attack and generally had plunged my elbow into their face seven or eight times in less than two or three seconds then I got up and walked away and ask somebody to call for an ambulance and probably a dentist and an oral surgeon. Or I would move to the manipulation of their wrist or their elbow or their shoulder are there any rain coat or their knee. Orange Show. All of those are incredibly quick maneuvers. Go watch a real fight. Go watch two people trained in multiple forms of self-defense they call it MMA oh, and watch the frequency of head kicks and watch How often they actually work. There is nobody stupider than someone who attempt a battle of wits when they are completely outgunned. Have a nice life
Gene LeBell, actually, was a middleweight when he competed in judo tournaments. He was not a world champion, but rather an Amateur Athletic Union National Judo Champion. He was good enough to beat heavyweights, but he was not all that big like some people think. When he got older, he put on some pounds like any other guy. As for him crushing Bruce Lee in a real fight a hundred times out of a hundred, well, he would have to get close enough to grab Bruce before Bruce nails him. Hayward Nishioka, a judo champion with a 5th ranking in the world who sparred with Bruce Lee, was more impressive than Gene LeBell, and he said in terms of speed and timing, Bruce was absolutely supreme and was one out of a zillion as a true fighter, and he also said in a real no-rule fight, Bruce would be 4 times more scary. Just saying Joe Rogan is entitled to his opinion, but he never met Bruce Lee and he may not be so right as he thinks he is.
Thank you for that. Very well said. Some of us who had fuck up fathers look at Bruce Lee and his words of wisdom to help find the right paths. People talk on the dead way too much.
What real fighting did Bruce lee ever do?
Bruce got his back broke from a Kung fu master, Gene would’ve ass raped Bruce
@@aliensdidit8452 Bruce got into a lot of gang fights in Hong Kong and that was why his family sent him to the US
Gene leBelle went to Japan at least once for judo competition against Japanese
he was also a professional wrestler for a very long time
Joe it’s a Tarantino film... just like inglorious bastards, he doesn’t care if his films are historically correct
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I'm sure someone else out there can make a movie about Hitler being a beloved hero, but that doesn't mean people won't have issues w/ it.
Right? Not only that but the whole scene is a daydream right?
Joe said it's a Tarantino film and he takes liberties for entertainment value. Did people sleep through this podcast segment but comment on it anyways?
Joe "I've known Gene" Rogan
Bruce Lee is the father of mma fighting he was 50 years ahead of his time.
nonsense.
Yeah that's rubbish, he did nothing they haven't been doing for hundreds of years in Asia
Bruce Lee was a phony lol gr8 entertainer terrible fighter for real life situations
Gaming Warlord, Simply not true.
@@gamingwarlord2k202 if he really is a phony, why are *professional* fighters still put respect on his name. Also, I think the real phony is you
jesus, I also thought he meant that the actual Manson girl was in Stranger things and I googled that shit so fast haha
I was like, she would be like 80, who's that old in the show?
@shawn mcclanahan you're not wrong
Anyone else notice how Joe dismisses anything Tom has to say about anything to do with fighting?
Tom: “Was Kung fu popular early?”
Joe: “MMA got rid of that!” 🤦♂️
Tom: “wouldn’t that be cool if Tarantino knew of a fighting story about them and base it off of that?”
Joe: “ they were good friends they wouldn’t have fought” A minute later Joe is reading about an incident that happened 🤦♂️
Exactly! He's a full of shit dumb ass! He and Shwaub should tie the knot!
"So that's the kind of fight it's gonna be?!?! -Mickey
Bruce Lee learned wrestling and judo from Gene Labell. Chuck Norris and other greats of that era called him the
"Toughest man alive".
I'm glad too see one of the old time greats acknowledged on the show. But, it seems that Joe acknowledges Bruce's influence on MMA, but not his fighting ability.
Joe literally calls Lee a fantastic martial artist. He's simply stating that because of Labell's size, he would just tackle him instead of traditional martial fighting style
@@charlesharsha4568 Yes, but Bruce Lee if prepared... would know howto counter that. I'll say it, don't care, based on what others have said about Lee... Lee would know howto bring down Lebell. You think Lee would just wait until Lebell tackled him? Seriously? What World Class fighter does that except Sumo Wrestlers?
@@JosephGibson I'm explaining what Joe meant. Of course Bruce would have a counter, just as Bruce is world class at what he does so would be his opponent. I'm a huge Bruce fan, I'd bet on him. But I see Joe's point