Of course Brad Pitt beat Bruce Lee. He used to have his own fight club in a restaurant basement (I shouldn't talk about that) and he was the Irish gypsy fighting champion.
Well he didn't even beat him. It ended in a draw. And it didn't even happen. It was Brad Pitt's character imagining what would happen if he was hired and how he would mess up that job.
@@cheke184 ...your information sources are bad. Bruce Lee is recognized as the G.O.A.T. all around the whole World. J.K.D. is an important influence in MMA, and Bruce Lee is beloved for his contributions not just to the movies but to World martial arts.
@@Petroglyph1 - Then why did Bruce Lee always refuse to compete for real against real fighters? I'm not talking about demonstrating techniques against your own students, but a real fight. He's lost a few, like against Judo Gene Lebell, or against Francis Lay who quickly submitted him.
@@randallflagg3700 he never refused. He refused fight with rules. He wanna fight without rules. It is sad that ufc was created so late. Cuz I think he will definitely fight there. And you guys don’t understand, he is half Chinese or whatever you call him, the philosophy of Kungfu do not fight. They always talk how to not fight, even they are learning fight.
"While serving as stunt coordinator for the film Out for Justice, starring Steven Seagal, Seagal claimed that due to his aikido training he was immune to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels." Fun fact LOL
@@jonnysupreme I say they were both full of shit, but have you ever heard Lebell's interview?that guy is not one fry short of a happy meal or one beer short of a 6 pack,he is completely out to lunch OMG HAHAHAHAHA!!By the way, that wasn't how the story went,what eye witnesses said happened was, Seagal was sitting in a single couch chair and Lebell sneaked up on him from behind and try to choke him out from behind but Seagal managed to escape ,but Lebell says he choked him into shitting himself ,you decide which story was the real truth.I believe Seagal because Lebell tried to do the same thing to the late Bruce Lee but Lee kicked his ass till he begged for Lee to stop. Apparantly Lebell have a bad habit of sneaking up on people when they least expect it ,anyone can do that ,i can do that to you ,it was not a challenged fight let's go outside type situation hehehe!
Based on people who knew Lebell,Lebell was known for sneeking up on people unknowingly from behind and would grab them from behind and try to choke them out,He tried this with Bruce Lee and with Seagal.Lebell is known liar ,bullshitter or exaggerator by many people,not just Seagal but friends of Bruce Lee as well.Even today when you see him being interviewed he is fucked up n the head!Let me ask you this, A sane person i am assuming,who do you know more about ?Steven Seagal,Bruce Lee or GENE LEBELL??When you answer this question honestly,you will have your answer about whether Lebell is telling the truth about his exploits in life! or is he full of shit?
Ya loved that scene good and when lil girl told him. That was the best acting she’s ever seen and then leo cryled He deserves the Oscar again . And brad to
Bruce Lee was one of the first martial artist that cast doubt about these traditional Kung fu Sifu’s skills. He laughed at the out of shape ones who claimed their chi went to their belly when it was just fat. With regards to J. Labelle’s grappling skills being able to beat Bruce, it really is academic and debatable. . Look at Ronda Rousey, a judo Olympic medalist who got knocked down by stand up strikers twice.
Did you just compare Ronda Rousey to Gene fucking Labelle? I guess it makes sense you'd compare Bruce Lee to a woman though that's basically what he was at 155. If he fought in today's MMA environment he'd get torn in half.
@@drobert1741 Well, it was a different time. 50 years from now, the very same can be said about the fighters of doing being torn apart. But it WAS Bruce that brought the mainstream audience in the west Martial Arts in movies.
when Rhonda used good tactics that emphasized her judo skills, she was unstoppable. Then, she abandoned Judo because no one in her division could touch her. Then bring in someone who actually knows how to manage distance, Rhonda goes down.
from the 1950's up till the 1960's the most popular martial arts were from japan specially samurai movies. bruce lee changed all that with the big boss (fists of fury in america). bruce lee's screen presence was incredible, his energy seems to explode from the screen that made it seem so real to the person watching it. there can only be one bruce lee!
The problem isn't who can win against bruce lee...The fact was the way he was portraited, he wasn't a bully picking up fights, he was trying his best to blend in with american culture
Bruce Lee has deep respect for stuntmen. Remember Jackie Chan? He worked as a stuntman for Bruce Lee and he testified that Bruce Lee respects the people he works with.
@Zeek Banistor Yeh id like to see the sources, duno about the guys u were arguing with tho. ill give it a like when u post it cuz im just interested in what u have to say lol
@Zeek Banistor You're so full of shit. Your whole argument is obviuously coming from a place of disdain for Lee. You're not a fan and you don't like the status quo narrative about Lee, so you mouth off dispensing inacurrate information that's biased to make him look weak and make those close to him appear as though they're all liers, based on your own opinion of him that you say comes from "sources". I know a lot about Bruce Lee as well. Enough to know your bullshitting about his wife not being there. She was there according to her. You gonna call her a lier about it? And your version of the facts is coming from the side of Jack Man. Linda said that Bruce spend most of the fight chasing him around the room. Bruce was also won a full contact boxing competition in hong kong in his late teens. Beating the 3 years reigning champ of that competition by ko. This is reported by Linda Lee his wife. I'm not going to assume that she was lying although I'm sure you will.
@@natemurphy7758 I wasn't just talking about Hollywood,im talking about all of them,he directed Inglorious Bastards where Hitler gets killed in a glorious fashion,he directed Django where a bunch of white slavers get killed,On Hollywood Charles Manson gets killed,these are all events that never happened yet he put them on the screen so people can have fun watching the bad guys of History getting fucked on the big screen,him saying the n word as a character in a movie is not proof he is a racist,you're just being a snowflake
my uncle was a military police man in japan during the post war occupation. before he went he was already trained in boxing and Kung Fu. then whilst in japan he learnt judo. he said combining the best bits of each combat style was quite often encouraged and could turn a good fighter into a very good one. i was lucky enough to spend time with him when i was young and like Le Bell he was a monster of a man. when returning from japan his friend told stories of following him into a bar brawl and see guys flying around the room. he told me on numerous occasions that (especially USN and GI's) would always be trying to gain points with their mates by trying to take him on and generally found themselves being carried out. he accredited most of this to being able to combine skills from his different styles and i guess he was right.
When I was sent to Ft Benning for basic I was pretty tough, athletic background and had a couple of fistfights behind me. OH BOY 😳 I came across some 'actives' that seriously scared me, made me feel like a chump..
@@ozairchishti1264 of you think he looked that much like Bruce lee then you must have never saw Danny Chan the guy is his twin He even plays bruce lee in the series on netflix called (The Legend Of Bruce Lee) and plays him on IP Man 3 and 4 as well as a movie that just dropped I forgot the name of it though.
hypotheticals, no one knows who would've won in a fight between Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Just like no one would know who would win in a fight between Ali in his prime and Tyson in his prime. Everyone has a right to say what they think but that doesn't mean it would happen.
Im 73 . I Was fresh 20yr old stuntman in 66 when i worked on The Green Hornet. And i worked on Longstreet in 71 with Bruce also. I got into editing in 79 after a back injury.
@@maximusareilius2262 wow that's awesome. yea there was an interview i saw him on a bike that had "Bruce" on it. Interview showed him very shy, respectful, etc. I think he's arrogant to the people who he didn't like or that made him like a lower class.
Hi Maximus Areilius, do you think Bruce Lee was pushed a side for David Carradine in the tv show Kung Fu? Do you have an idea or heard word of why Bruce Lee was replaced by Carradine? I read that the main role in Kung Fu was his idea to part to act in and was a vehicle to jump start his acting career in the US but the execs in Hollywood passed him over.
Problem there my friend is that guys like Chuck and Dan were really good friends with Bruce, and basically owe their careers to Bruce. They're both nice guys too (met Dan, never met Chuck but by all accounts a nice man). So, they're not exactly going to come on and go "Yeah, my really good friend Bruce? The guy who gave me these amazing opportunities which changed my life forever? Nah, he couldn't actually fight and he was kind of a jerk a lot of the time". I'd still like to hear their perspectives, but they're just that: perspectives with heavy bias.
The part that I feel like Joe Rogan, and a lot of other people might be misunderstanding about this particular scene in the movie, that scene was shot with the intention of portraying a fantasy. If you re-watch the movie, it shows Brad Pitt's character on the roof fixing something for Leonardo DiCaprio's character, then they go to that scene where Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked, and then they pop back to the same guy and he's back on the roof.
Bruce Lee should've said: "Compliant underlings I use in my demonstrations who I tell to stand there and do nothing so I can punch them don't fight back" :P :)
Almost everything you said was wrong. He was not the first to combine disciplines. He had no ground game except a few moves LeBell taught him. He was quick but no quicker than an average amateur featherweight boxer.
@@scottcarroll9201 He was no quicker than the average amature featherweight/lightweight boxer??!! Man oh man, the crap just keeps flowing out of that vacuous, know-nothing mouth of yours. I'll post a link below to the guy voted THE greatest martial artist to date; heavyweight multiple world champion Joe Lewis telling it like it was with the guy who taught him, nailed him in sparring, and was, according to Lewis, THE fastest striking opponent ever to have stood in front of him. He also says that Bruce hit as hard as a heavyweight, ALWAYS knew when you were open to be hit and you could NEVER tell when Bruce was about to launch an attack on you... Now I admit and do realise Joe's opinion is nothing compared to a world-renowned expert like your good self, but, nevertheless, I think he's still worth checkin' out below. Can I strongly suggest in future, you keep that know-nothing vacuous mouth of yours tightly shut and refrain from spewing more garbage about a guy you genuinely are clueless about...go read up on the comments of proven martial artists who actually knew him... ruclips.net/video/1X2byotY220/видео.html
I think everybody gets that. but people definitely have the right to criticize the amazing tarantino for his mockery of a historical figure. whats really sad is that if any director would have made muhammed ali look like a buffoon the outrage would be tremendous. its definitely biased and thats the core issue of people
Real life Bruce Lee: “Look at my hand. That’s a little Chinese hand. He[Muhammad Ali]’d kill me.” Quinton Tarantino's Bruce Lee: "These hands are lethal weapons."
From the book cited by Tarantino, regarding Bruce Lee, stuntmen and the "incident" with Gene LeBell: " 'He had never done elaborate fight choreography on film-his childhood Hong Kong movies were melodramas, not action flicks. Onstage, Bruce dealt with three-dimensional space and an audience viewing from every angle. To sell a punch or kick, he had to land within millimeters of the target, what he called “non-contact gung fu.” But The Green Hornet stuntmen were all veterans of Westerns. “It was a two-dimensional thing where you had the camera over your shoulder,” says Van Williams. “You could stand three feet away from your opponent and swing, and if the guy reacted correctly and the sound effects were right, it looked perfect. Bruce could never get used to working that far apart.” Bruce insisted on close quarters combat. The stuntmen hated it. They weren’t fast enough to react to him, and as a result, occasionally got banged up. “They got to the point where they didn’t want to work on that show,” Williams recalls. “They were tired of getting hurt.” “Judo” Gene LeBell, a legendary pro wrestler, world-class judoka, and the stunt coordinator on-set, was assigned the task of calming Bruce down. “Bruce would hit you in ten different spots and as a stuntman you wouldn’t know whether to grab your jaw and say that hurt or your stomach,” says LeBell. “We did our best to slow Bruce Lee down because the Western way was the old John Wayne way where you reach from left field, tell a story, and then you hit the man. Bruce liked to throw thirty-seven kicks and twelve punches.” When reasoning didn’t work, LeBell took to joshing Bruce. “In pro wrestling, they call it ‘the swerve.’ It’s how far you can tease and get away with it,” LeBell explains. “I’d tell him he put too much starch in my shirt.” One day as part of the general joking and roughhousing atmosphere on set, the stuntmen egged LeBell into picking “the little guy up.” LeBell yanked Bruce onto his shoulder in a Crouching Nelson hold-upside down with one hand around the back. Then he slowly walked him around the set. “Put me down!” Bruce yelled. “I’m going to kill you!” “I’m not going to let you down.” “Why?” “Because you are going to kill me.” Despite the difference in temperament, the two men became friends. “I reckon I teased him so much I eventually got him to loosen up a little,” LeBell says. To Bruce’s credit, he was so obsessed with perfecting his martial arts he put up with the hazing to learn from LeBell. Bruce offered to exchange lessons: kungfu for judo and (Catch) wrestling. “I showed him some legitimate finishing holds, leg locks, arm locks,” LeBell recalls. “He told me he used one of my holds on Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.”' " Matthew Polly, Bruce Lee: A Life (page 186-7, Kindle Edition)
@@cannonfodder4000 During the filming of Green Hornet, Bruce Lee was hitting the stuntmen for real (like in Hong Kong movies). The producers didn't like it, so they asked Gene LeBell to teach him a lesson. While filming, LeBell caught Lee off-guard and caught him in a hold. That's when Lee and LeBell had that exchange, with Lee saying he'll "kill" him if he doesn't put him down and LeBell joking back "don't kill me, champ." Lee then realized he was lacking grappling skills, so he trained with LeBell and learnt Judo, incorporating it into his Jeet Kune Do style.
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@@RazorEdge2006 That's all true from what I've read but you don't just "learn" judo. It's not like you spend an afternoon with a judo master and then be like "ay man, I got it." It's a discipline that takes years to master. Gene LeBell teaching Bruce Lee a few moves does not equate to Bruce Lee "learning judo."
I watched the film in question for half the film and was dreading what I thought would be the inevitability of the horrors the Manson family, so I really didn’t care to relive the carnage and turned the film off. One year later the film was again on tv so I decided to watch it in its entirety. I was relieved at its ending and formed a much more positive reaction to the film. I am 73 and read the account in the San Francisco Chronicle.
I thought the whole thing was great, after expecting to not like it. Cliff is the everyman, perfectly written. When he makes the hippy change his tyre. The last scene too was great, people getting pissy because a "bad bitch" got her head combined with a fireplace. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, all Tarantinos films are superb.
“I met Bruce when he was working on the television series, Green Hornet,” recalled LeBell. “Benny Dobbins was stunt coordinator for the show and he called and asked me to check out some kid by the name of Bruce Lee. ‘I got this guy who does the same stuff you do,’ Dobbins said. Of course Benny didn’t know the difference between judo and kung fu, but he wanted me to watch this new actor work. One of the first things I noticed was that although Bruce was small, about 130 pounds, he had a tremendous upper body. Bruce was also very fast and wanted to always take the action beyond what the script called for. Once the director called action, he got that and a lot more from Bruce.” New to American humor, the Chinese actor didn’t know what to make of it when Gene hoisted him over his shoulders and ran up and down the stairs doing a fireman’s carry with Lee draped over his shoulders. “Stuntmen and wrestlers have their own brand of humor and at first Bruce didn’t take my little joke too kindly,” LeBell said with a chuckle. “Eventually he realized we were just welcoming him into our group and before long he fit right in with the rest of the rowdy stuntmen.”
And didn’t Bruce actually hit Jackie Chan. On accident. Him too we need him too. I’d rather of them bring up Bruce’s visit to Polanski’s place in that time.
Bruce Lee was very great but always learning and advancing himself in martial arts. He would have been the greatest if he lived longer to then publicly display himself as a fighter
@Arthur Morgan It is true that People can change but should also know that Joe really flip flops like a mug sometimes and that shouldn't be hard staying on the internet
It might seem weird but Bruce Lee probably the only person in Hollywood I think I've ever really had true respect for. I'm like everybody else he understands what being a stuntman is and how hard it is on their bodies while everybody else just kind of take that for granted.
Would love to see Chuck but... Bruce was a great friend of Chuck. He basically made Chuck's movie career. They were really good friends by all accounts. Chuck is also a nice guy. Basically what I'm saying is he's unlikely to say anything negative about the guy. While I'm not dismissing Chuck's opinion, he's not exactly an unbiased source. But would love to hear him on JRE.
@@BBBYpsi That's open to interpretation. I haven't drank the Bruce Lee Kool Aid, I will say that. That said, it's besides the point. The point is about the objectivity of a source of information that a lot of people are putting stock in.
@@MrSunnyyangyang Yeah and Rommel the most Legendary General of the war of the desert couldn't kill the Lunatic with a detonator destroying half a building in real Life, but a bunch of lunatics with no plans gunned down the dude on a theater in the Tarantino movie, I believe it is more far fetch than Bruce lee being beaten down by a stuntman
If they depicted Hitler as a genuinely nice guy and a loving father or some shit like that 'folks' would keep the same energy for sure. What people care more (despite what they say) is that a respected person is depicted as an arrogant prick without any hard evidence. If you didn't get that...
@@user-eq7qk9bc9b It was literally a thought of Cliff's in a movie called "Once upon a time in Hollywood." It was taking the piss, how can anyone not see that.
The way I heard this story was on the 1st day on set of "The Green Hornet" an AD or asst producer pointed out Bruce Lee to Gene LeBell and told him that Bruce was a "karate" guy and to go over and prank him. Gene went over to Bruce grabbed him in a "Fireman's Carry" and started running around the set with Bruce on his shoulders. Bruce got very angry and told Gene to put him down or he would kill him. Gene kept running around the set. Bruce said "Are you going to put me down or not?" and Gene said "No, if I put you down you'll kill me." Bruce started laughing and Gene put him down and their friendship was born. I don't know if this story is true or accurate but it was the story I heard.
He also learn a lot from Chen his street fighting partner in Hong Kong, even if Gene had grabbed up Bruce from behind it wouldn't have done much to Bruce and he would have found a way out of any locks or holds Gene had on him. Then Bruce would have jumped back and then forwards in the fencing stance and proceeded to slap Le Belle. Ding DING. How do I know it went like this? because all of Bruce's fighting friends became his students including Lebelle by regularly going to his DoJo not the other way around. Joe also failed to note that Bruce often spent 16 hours a day in and around the gym and could dead lift over 700lbs. That's the equivalent of Joe going down to 130lbs and making that dead lift. Personally I can't see doing anyone of those things can you?
@@kyleday5026 No, not Japanese Judo, which is grappling. Yip Man practiced Wing Chun, a Southern Chinese Kung fu style, which emphasized relaxed but quick hands.
Bruce picked up only some steps until 7 from Ip Man, it's Bruce who mixed wing chung with striking and grappling to develope eventualy JKD, so the only one who made Bruce was Bruce himself...no ip man, no gene lebelle or chuck norris...it's not the technique but the man behind the technique that makes it efficient
I was only kidding, im asian so i dont think that, although i do think white people look alike haha. They should have gotten afganistan bruce lee to do it. This guy literally looks like lee
Actually, Miyamoto Musashi was one of the first martial artists to do what Bruce did, as far as taking multiple styles and making your own. Innovativeness in martial arts dates back before recorded history most likely. It just happens differently each time with different types of combat. Its all play on strategy.
Everyone was doing that forever. Lee copied and sold everything as his inventions to Americans because no one knew. All Chinese systems are a back and forth combination of other systems and styles. Northern Longfist is a mix of at least 15 other systems. That's the Jing Wu system that Won't Jack Man did. Praying Mantis, put together in the early 1700s, is over a dozen systems. (Uses Great Ape/Monkey footwork btw lol) The Japanese systems integrated Taiji, Bagua and Shuai Jiao (fast wrestling, take downs etc) into Judo and Jujitsu. Traditional Karate comes from Fujian White Crane with some original Hung Gar (when it was just Tiger) brought to the Southern Japanese islands by Chinese immigrants in the 1390s. They modified it with the systems they were using.
@@Chronicskillness EXACTLY AMERICANS DID NOT KNOW AND HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THEIR NAIVENESS . i was not going to say anything but MAS OYAMA BORN IN 1923 AND DIED IN 1994 THE CREATOR OF KYOKUSHIN KARATE STYLE-- HE was another one who also put different fighting styles together AND NO MOVIE THING WITH-HIM--HE ACTUALLY WENT AND FIGHT THESE STYLES IN THEIR DOJOS AND THEN FIGHT DIFFERENT STYLES AROUND THE WORLD, he also was an AMATEUR WELTERWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION IN ASIA
@@dragonflyjones1527 Mas Oyama is an effing badass. My Northern Longfist & Xingyiquan teacher also trains serious Kyokushin and Goju Ryu. Lol it's hilarious because if you popped in a thread and said "Mas Oyama could probably take Bruce Lee in a full contact or challenge match" people would lose their shit. When it wouldn't even be ethical for Mas Oyama to actually fight Lee. Be an in shape actor getting unequivocally beat by a real fighter. People don't know the real timeline. Bruce's real childhood, what he actually learned in Hong Kong, what he was actually doing 1959-1965 when he came to America, how different Wing Chun actually is from other CMA, or why his students & the professional full contact Karate champions said/say the things they do. What I also noticed is people take 1970 Bruce Lee, the one after he trained with Jhoon Rhee, Joe Lewis, Jim Kelly, Chuck Norris, James Yimm Lee and his friends... 5 years of training which isn't actually *that much* And they place an embellished version if that caricature in the early 1960s before the Wong Jack-Man challenge match. Then they talk about how Lee taught Lewis, Kelly and Norris. Because you know, he got training with Lewis, Kelly and Norris all those years. Like... bro... not how it works. Lol Childhood actor son of famous actor and rich socialite mother came to the US knowing one and half beginner forms/kata from Wing Chun. First form has zero footwork or kicks. You literally do not even change stances. His own letters to his teacher explain how he didn't even start sparring until 1966. Basically putting as that's when he kinda started training a little more serious.
Lee is credited for making MMA a thing in America. Which he did. Lee did not "steal" anything. He learned from many. Used what worked best and created jeet kune do.
@@joshuapinkley8562 im just saying SIMPLY that he was NOT THE FIRST TO DO IT and MAS OYAMA,was sooo very EFFECTIVE IN COMBINING THESE FIGHTING ARTS he got a challenge from THAI BOXERS AND HE AND HIS STUDENTS DEFEATED THE THAI FIGHTERS IN A REAL FIGHT IN THAILAND under muay thai rules-- THE ART OF KICKBOXING WAS POPULARIZIED BY HIM, it was really his student at the time tho, kenji kurosaki i think that pushed for the popularity of kickboxing , cause, he was the only one that got beaten and was focusing on where he went wrong in the fight-- NO DISRESPECT TO BRUCE LEE-- BUT -- THERE WERE OTHER GREAT PEOPLE OUT THERE AND MASUTATSU OYAMA WAS BEFORE HIM IN MIXING THE ARTS. BY the way i am a fan of bruce lee too im NOT CRAZY OVER HIM but im a fan and i miss brandon lee very much too.
Tarantino on Kill Bill: " I'm gonna use his Inspiration and fight scene from Fists of Fury " Also Tarantino " Let's make a mockery of his legend when I release Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
@Edwin C. Hmmm, I do like watching movies that are MORE realistic! Does Scarface and Enter the Dragon give u nightmares? Pulp Fiction & Kill Bill are more childish than cartoons! Tarantino is even worse! I can't imagine how his breath smells like... LOL MAYBE THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR LIL KIDS LIKE U! Have fun riding ur marry go round!
@Edwin C. Since u like watching Tarantino's kids movie, U R A KID! Even Ice Princess is more adult than Tarantino's fantasy gangster & Kung Fu flicks! It's actually quite disturbing that u like watching his movies... sick!
Tony Peterson what a fuckin clown you look like taking this high ground talking about how tarantino movies are bad. yes totally one of the most well known writer/directors of the last 40 years actually makes bad kid movies and we’re all wrong and you have the superior taste in movies 🤡
One of Bruce Lee's close friends was Jhoon Rhee who was Korean taekwondo master. Rhee shared his kicking technique with him which Bruce Lee incorporated into his fighting style and Bruce Lee taught Jhoon Rhee his lightning fast punch. Lee's technique was so amazingly fast that Rhee dubbed it the "Accupunch". At one point he demonstrated it to Muhammed Ali who couldn't block it so he asked Rhee to teach it to him.
For Example, the downward elbow is banned in UFC for a reason. Try tackling or exposing to someone that will just drop the elbow on the back of your head instead of putting hand under your chin. You can’t practice this in sparring cause it will knock you out without much force. Then try it against someone that will tie, in eye gouge, groin strikes, bites, headbutts, so many of my Jiujitsu friends don’t realize I could have just head butted you but we can’t practice that with pure jiujitsu or judo.
So? I'm sure joe Rogan can point out someone is a small guy while also being aware that hes not a big guy himself, and I think he meant his height and build
I believe the Bruce Lee scene sets up the end of the film.If Brad's charecter can be competition for Bruce Lee then it's believable that he could thwart the Manson followers at the end of the film.
One person brought up this possibility - the scene was Cliffs own recollection of the situation, therefore it might have been that he recalled him to be arrogant and uppity because he views Lee as a pretentious poser, which would make his memory of the circumstance an inaccurate representation of what Actually happened.
@@Devlin000 yup,Mr.lee your skills are extraordinary.Your battle with guards magnificent.I was going to ask you to join us.Then Washington,said I was strate out of a comic book.I F**K him up and killed him.Hahahaha😜(or sumthing like that🤔)
@@thomasfurey00 lol no , it's a gimmick , bruce knows how to use kayfabe . basically he's just a pro-wrestler taking a gimmick to another level. he has no legit fight record nor even a sparring session with anyone , he's famous video doing anything physical is the one inch punch that is basically a shove. and he's so called teacher is a hoax too . dude came from a family of actors for theaters and operatic singers. he knows how to work the crowd. and during his time kayfabing a character is popular in the entertainment business like how would professional wrestlers did back in the day to keep their legitimacy. bruce lee had nothing to do with the popularity of mma today or even martial arts in general. he is one of the many thousands of hoax from the old chinese "grand masters" to the mcdojos of americas. he name is just kept alive cause it still sell merchandise.
Never forget that Bruce was a street fighter too. That's where he got the nickname 'Little Dragon'. The guy knew how to kick ass an not just in the movies. Plus legs are a lot more powerful than arms. Anyone who's ever taken a good kick vs. a good punch knows that. You can't grapple someone if their kicking your head off it's block.
I know for a fact that bruce lee never won every fight - this is from experience. We dont learn to be by winning at everything, more or less, the best always lost to be better than who they are then and now. Manny, lowmenchenko, aderson silva, chuck, GSP., list goes on. to think they never lost a fight to be better is just silly. I believe it when people say bruce lost fights because you dont become great at something until you are humbled. Bruce spent years perfecting his art of combat for a reason, he had fire, drive, and every reason to prove he wast the best because at some point someone was better than him. I love bruce and he is human just like the rest of us. much love tho, rip the great bruce lee.
Bruce lost fights as a delinquent child, where he fought in his school and in his neighborhood all the time. He then came close to losing a match against another very experienced Wing Chun fighter in his late teens to prove himself, but won at the very end, which was a formative experience for him. Not much is known about his fighting after that, he moved to the U.S shortly after and it was years before he started surfacing again fighting-wise. It was in those few years that he became a master beyond compare. The very first time he went up on stage to teach what he knew of Wing Chun and martial arts to try to get some students for some extra money, a retired marine in the crowd heckled him and said he was a fake and that that stuff doesn't work in real life. Bruce told him to come up on stage and try to touch him in any way he could, which he did, and he made the marine look like a fool. Countering every move and easily incapacitating him in front of everyone. That marine was his first student. Afterwards he quickly gained a reputation and a following, and according to every single account of L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y everyone that knew him after that point, he never lost a real fight again. And it's not like it was close or anything, he never even got hit again either. So yes, he lost some fights as a child and as a teen while he was still learning, and again by all acounts, before Ip-man died he was never able to beat him either, but after that he became the one and only legend we all know today, a great fighter with no equal. Bruce was a superhuman on another level. He was the greatest. Bar none. No Muhammad Ali, no Mike Tyson, none of these MMA guys we know today. They couldn't touch him. He was the greatest fighter of the last century, perhaps even of all time, with no exceptions. I don't care what fighting style it was, what their background was, what they tried to fight him with, they lost, horribly, every single time. There will never be another man or fighter as great as Bruce Lee.
The problem with Joe and his love affair with Ju Jitsu, is that in a street fight there are no rules. In the UFC, there are rules. If I was ground fighting with someone, I would use joint locks on my opponents hands, I would eye poke, I would bite the person...Also, let's say we're playing hoops one day and things get a little heated. Do you REALLY want to ground fight on the concrete where barely hitting your head could split it open? The UFC has a cushioned mat surface and artificial walls (the octagon). Show me a martial art that works in all conditions and I'll study it.
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 This old myth again. *eye roll* They were not getting "trained" by Bruce Lee. They were training TOGETHER. As both Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis have said: Bruce was not a fighter, he was an actor.
@@scottcarroll9201 You're wrong and haven't read anywhere near as much on the subject as I have. Chuck definitely acknowledged getting trained by Bruce. Joe Lewis didn't say that either. In fact he lifted his five ways of attack directly from Bruce Lee.
I heard this question twice in my life at two jobs I worked at during lunchtime: "who would win between a boxer and a karate guy?" I think Tarantino is asking a similar question in Once Upon a Time. Of course what we see is Cliff Booth's version.
Depends on the skill level of each fighter and their weight/height/arm reach also can effect the outcome. A huge mass of a guy that does not feel your blows can just sit on you. Fight over. A small guy who knows technique and can apply it can take down a more inexperienced and/or slower fighter. So many variables, but the common word is a real experienced Wrestler will win if you don't put him down before he grabs you, and if a strong fast boxer connects on a MA fighter it will be over. It seems the MA person is at a disadvantage in both scenarios from all accounts I've read especially if those boxers/wrestlers have a considerably mass & speed to them. It makes sense too that MA is more a dance, like doing yoga for flexibility, stamina, & power but doesn't give you the raw bulk strength the other disciplines (and genetics) give you. The one thing a small guy like Bruce had over the other arts would be his insane speed. If he could avoid your blows and land his own then that would be the time to win, otherwise the other person could get the upper hand, if it was a prolonged fight. "I fear not the man who knows a thousand kicks, I fear the man who has practiced a single kick a thousand times." - Bruce [This is why Bruce is so loved not because he could beat everyone, because he even admits he couldn't, but because he was always growing, and studying philosophy and passing it on to other who wanted to learn]
Gene Lebell was an announcer in the 70’s for pro wrestling in SoCal. He would act afraid at times when interviewing wrestlers. It was a great act because I had read in Wrestling magazines about Lebell’s abilities. He could have crushed any one of them.
In FL in the 70s-80s Gordon Solie was the best interviewer and commentator. He made it seem so real to me when I was young. Gordon was a great actor as well. Every now and then a wrestler would get in his face and he would act all shook up. He was great! A legend!
Again, misconception about Bruce Lee's martial arts. It is NOT a combination of best things from different martial arts. Bruce Lee's first choice in a fight was a fingerjab to the eyes. Than it doesn't matter how strong you are. "Finger Jab is the most effective attack." -Bruce Lee
Hi Landsmann! :-D Ich weiss eigentlich sollen die Leute hier Englisch schreiben aber ich hab gerade keine Lust. Wir zwei verstehen uns ja. Hast Recht mit dem was Du schreibst. Ich kann auch langsam nicht mehr verstehen, warum dieser Irrglaube sogar im Ami-Land immer noch präsent ist. Aber Rogan hat halt auch keine Ahung von Lee, musst ihn mal hören wie er zultzt mit Brendan Schaub gesprochen hat, die haben einfach 0 Plan wer BL wirklich war und was er konnt wenn s drauf ankam. LeBell gegen Lee ist vom Speed wie Bagger gegen Ferraro der Elefant gegen Gephard, nie im Leben würden Gene den packen können, ausser wenn Lee vorher ne Flasche Schnaps trinken muss, dann schon da er kein Alkohl vertrug. :-D Grüße von einem Landsmann, ich weiss Du bist TM (Initialien), wir hatten Anfang 2017 auch mal gemailt.
from what i read about bruce lee he was the best jim kelly said he was unbelievable and a brilliant martial artist and it did not matter what size and he sparred with other martial artists he did not mention who they were also i read that bruce lee had very strong core and high chi and he once said the best fighter is someone who is best at grappling judo etc www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/bwkqlr/why_they_call_bruce_lee_the_godfather_of_mixed/ also joe lewis said he was the fastest most power person that stood in front of him i think because gene labell was taller and different weight and had championships people assume he would be better because he was taller
We need to convince Joe to get Dan inosanto on his pod cast somehow I think it would be a fantastic interview...please make it happen Joe. ..Who's with me?
Just watched an interview with Joe Lewis and he credits Lee with his development of kick boxing because Lewis was sick of point fights. He recalls how strong Lee was when he held a 75lb bar out with straight arms in a horse stance and held it there. He said he was incredibly strong
I got to sit in on one of Joe's black belt tests back in the late 90s. Points fighter or not....Joe was a fast, tough, skilled old man at the time and very dangerous.....you could tell the young guys taking the test wanted no part of him. He had alot of scar tissue and big fat swollen knuckles....You get that from hitting and being hit.
75 lbs is 34 kg. I tried to do that. It’s pretty basic for a trained person. If you look at Bruce Lee’s gym card, his numbers are average. That doesn’t change anything of him being a great martial artist though
In a grappling match? Forget about it. In a real fight? It may have been over in seconds yes....IF the gorilla grabs Bruce. Or,,,,, IF Bruce lands a Finger Jab to the eye, his greatest technique-probably he's the only human who mastered it doing hundreds of reps each hand everyday based on his training book seen by Bas Rutten or often mentioned by Dan Inosanto. Or a groin kick, another one of his favorites. Joe's right it would have been a real unpleasant fight....good for them they became friends.
@@goodnamestaken oh fuck off ur just a snowflake pussy, he said the n word once in a movie as a character doesn’t make him racist. He had nazis killed and scalped in inglorious bastards. White slave owners killed in django unchained. All in satisfying ways he’s not a POS ur just a snowflake pussy. This wasn’t even a real scene in the movie it was imagined
Anyone who spent some time researching Bruce Lee,knows that he would never trashtalk on Mohammad Ali or any other boxer in general. It is well known,that Bruce Lee was a big box fan and admired Ali.There are interviews by Bolo Yeung and Joe Lewis,where they say that Bruce was studying Ali´s technique and specially his footwork.There´s even an interview where they ask Bruce Lee if he could take down Ali in a fight. He answers: "In a proper boxing fight,I wouldn´t stand a chance against Ali,just compare his hands with mine.In a streetfight,without any rules where anything goes,maybe I could win but that´s all hypothetical."
I love Bruce, but everybody knows he could be pretty arrogant some times. Also, he was very confident on his own abilities. I could see him stating that he could defeat Alí.
@@abzi03 "Source is quentin tarantino" xD tarantino has problems with reading comprehension, because bruce's wife was quoting a critic, it was something that some critic said, not bruce himself
Exactly. He always pusses out when actual famous people are on his podcast. Rogan isn't gonna actually express his opinions when he has RDJ, Norton, Tarantino, etc.
It's a fictional movie. Cliff is a fictional character. Fictional characters have unlimited potential that is left up to the writer. You could use this same scene and replace cliff with superman and people would have still bitched.
Tarantino is a little bitch. Last time I heard about him, a few years ago, he was complaining about people capitalizing off of violence or something. LOL. That's exactly how he became rich and famous.
evagrubb They are both ugly ( Weinstein and Tarrantula ) for Weinstein was the only way to become sex, ropes women. Bruce Lee was, is a icon he can have all this women’s without violence !“ This is the the way of fighting without fighting ! Tarrantula is nothing Brad and Di Caprio are nothing compared to Bruce Lee. This is calculated to earns mo cinema payer, earned more money with this sacrifice ( Bruce was beaten from Brad 😂😂😂). Sad, sad, sad. I have liked Brad but no more !
To be fair, everyone was friends with wienstein, everyone thought he was fantastic when he was making everyone lots of money, right up to the point the shit hit the fan with hashtag# then everyone drop him like a hot potato?
not all kung fu lacks grappling, remember that jiu jitsu was originally formed from people studying chinese martial arts and chinese wrestling. white crane for example actually contains an arm bar and a knee bar and a double leg takedown as well as a few good standing throws, even though jiu jitsu is japanese, the people who made it did in fact study white crane, mongolian wrestling and chinese wrestling and elements of sumo (the original version with strikes and grapples)
all jiu-jitsu is sword technique people who think otherwise probably think samurai didn't have access to firearms, wrestling has no origin cavemen used it, wrestling with rules is different. jiu jitsu has no rules.
Mr Rogan, you’re misinformed concerning Lee’s prowess as a MA. Around the world, he’s known as history’s great Martial Artist. Joe Lewis said he possess blinding speed, especially with his hands. Stephen Thompson said Lewis told him the hardest guy to hit him was from a 130 pound dude, And that man was Bruce Lee. Norris had stated in interviews that pound for pound the strongest man he ever met was…. Bruce Lee
@Dre Marshall - dude, he’s been gone for nearly half a century, and some of the top mma guys hold him in high esteem. You’re a nobody compare to these guys. Btw, when u passed, no one would even know u existed with a global population of 7.4 billion people presently on this planet we called Earth.
My dad was a state tournament high school, and U.S. Navy wrestler, and wrestled with me from the time I could crawl. I started Tae Kwon Do at 14 years old, and when we sparred I kept asking the owner of the dojo why I couldn't defend myself, if we were learning self-defense. He would tear me to pieces, verbally, about the, "impurity," and the, "dirty," fighting I was distracting everyone with. I would show my dad what I'd learned, and 1.5 seconds later I would be on my back with my arm between my legs. "That working for you?" "That's what I keep trying to tell them," I would reply, hoping to allow for a decrease in the pressure on my crotch. Two years in, I accidently connected on the wide open nose of the, "star pupil," and though I apologized for hitting what he left open, my reward for training him for what he'd see in tournaments a month later (he was shut out in his only fight in his only tournament), was to have my right knee thrust kicked backwards. Six months of physical therapy, after surgery, and returned to the school long enough to put every single student's back flat on the mat with basic takedowns: one day, less than two hours. A family friend who had recently retired from a very specialized role in the U.S. Navy heard about my situation. I began ten years of training with him regularly. He had studied not only wrestling and Tae Kwon Do, but Judo, Ju Jitsu, Kung Fu from several very different practitioners, a bit of Muay Thai, and something I had never heard of called Krav Maga. I was amazed. What made sense to me was to use what your brain could learn and your body could use. I remember asking in Tae Kwon Do, when being shown three techniques for kicks to your opponent's head, " this takes too long, it won't be effective in a real fight! It makes as much sense as punching someone in the foot!" I got an angry glare, but no answer. I've been in a lot of fights. Far too many. I had many people try head kicks, and every one of them lost the fight soon after. Thanks, Dad!!!
Most men confuse fighting and self-defense. In self-defense you should always use a weapon unless you cannot; only a drooling moron would agree to flush his life down the toilet to feel like a fake tough guy for a moment and take on someone unarmed. Hence the saying "nobody is stupider than a young man" because lots of young men would love to flush their life down the shitter like that. If, however, you are being confronted and don't have a weapon then a head kick has been proven to work many times. The thing about an offense like that is that once it connects, it's bound to do some damage or pain whereas in judo and wrestling there are holds that give your opponent plenty of time to think and bite and twist and squeeze your vulnerable areas. They neglect the importance of the element of surprise, which is crucial in self-defense and meaningless in ego fighting.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I have never heard a saying, nobody is stupider than a young man," but anyone who says that proves their own stupidity. And arrogance. Have you ever heard the phrase, "nobody stupider than someone who insult someone they don't even know?" Did you even understand anything that I said? Taekwondo "teacher" wanted to teach me a bunch of forms and things that are not useful in self-defense. When someone attacks me I am now in a fight.. If I am walking out of a building and a a person throws a kick or a punch at me I am now in a fight. I never said I wouldn't use a weapon, in fact in Krav Maga if you look at what I said it is about learning in your brain what your body can do and it encourages knowing your surroundings and using anything you can see to your advantage to end the situation as quickly as possible. I've been in 138 fights in my life. I've had probably 16 or 17 people throw kicks at my head and every one of those people ended up on their backs. You want the element of surprise? Try throwing a kick at the head of a person trained to defend themselves and you'll be surprised how fast the back of your skull get bounced off the ground. To say that they had time to twist or grab, no they did not. Because before they hit the ground I was beginning my next attack and generally had plunged my elbow into their face seven or eight times in less than two or three seconds then I got up and walked away and ask somebody to call for an ambulance and probably a dentist and an oral surgeon. Or I would move to the manipulation of their wrist or their elbow or their shoulder are there any rain coat or their knee. Orange Show. All of those are incredibly quick maneuvers. Go watch a real fight. Go watch two people trained in multiple forms of self-defense they call it MMA oh, and watch the frequency of head kicks and watch How often they actually work. There is nobody stupider than someone who attempt a battle of wits when they are completely outgunned. Have a nice life
Van Williams (Green Hornet) and his stunt double Bennie Dobbins were the inspiration for the characters in Tarantino's movie. In an interview in 2016 before Van Williams died, he stated that although Dobbins and Lee did not get along, they NEVER fought.
I started training Jkd back in the late 80's. Take this with a grain of salt. But the story I heard growing up in the art back then. Judo Gene put Bruce in an arm bar and Bruce could not get out of it. In the movie Enter the dragon. Bruce showed his escape in the scene where he bit the guy. I never heard anything but Respect for Judo Gene from any of the instructors I met. The thing with Bruce you might not be aware. He was small but was way stronger than he looked. He had I think a 500-600 lb heavy bag. He figured if he could get it moving and stop it with a side kick he could launch a normal sized human off his feet. During one movie. Showing off for James Garner I think. He jumped up to kick a chandelier he cracked a rib or two.
@@alphanerd7221 one of the JKD guys that worked with the military. He developed a way to properly train biting. They would wear a neoprene suit and attach raw meat to so you could learn to chew through meat. He specifically talked about that. Yes a bite might piss someone off. Chewing off a face or an artery not so much. Thing more like the chimp attack on that woman's face. Or an animal attack. Not your sex life or wrestling practice.
Joe Rogan has lost his touch. As if Bruce Lee would be so stupid as to underestimate Gene. Gene was his friend first and foremost. Gene loved Bruce, theres a video on youtube.
@ Video Master, Labell wouldn't last 2 minutes. Bruce would shoot two fast oblique kicks to the knee, followed by a roundhouse, then an elbow to his temple
MrTruboy Rogan has more competition credentials than Bruce Lee, has trained with some of the top fighters in the world, and commentated for the biggest mma organisation in the world. But apparently "he isn't a real fighter".
It's worth noting that LeBell was a x2 US Judo heavyweight champion, and back then the heavyweight limit was between 80kg and 93kg. Or 176lbs to 205lbs. Given that Lebell also wrestled with a bear, I'm guessing he was closer to the high end of the heavyweight scale. Look at the size of the dude: He was large and was hard as nails, a former catch wrestler, and Judo expert. ruclips.net/video/n9mER2BmNRA/видео.html www.ozy.com/true-story/debunking-quentin-tarantinos-mockery-of-bruce-lee/95956 It would be arrogant to presume the outcome of any fight. But... I'd be more surprised if LeBell lost vs Bruce Lee back in the day.
Tarantino has an axe to grind? Django Unchained was heavily censored after been banned in Chinese cinemas. And more of his movies were banned and censored in China so maybe for him a motivation to get even and vent his frustration on a beloved chinese cinematic icon. Just my two cents.
I think Tarantino is a Putz but I don't think he would hold china censoring his films today into hating Bruce Lee.(And I also think Bruce is way over rated by fanboys when they are comparing him to modern MMA guys in a fight)
People got pissy about Bruce Lee's depiction in the movie, but they don't realize that Tarantino's movies take place in an alternate universe that is much more violent than ours. IRL Bruce Lee is a decent guy, in the Tarantinoverse he is kind of an arrogant prick.
To be fair to Tarantino, that scene was actually a day dream that one of the main characters had. So the idea was that it would be exaggerated is because it wasnt based in reality but rather the day dream
"Put me down or I'll kill you!" "I can't put you down cause you'll kill me!". Lol. It reminds me of me and my brother fighting and saying silly crap when we were kids.
TheBad Guy66 - No, he said it repeatedly. I meant he said the word gorilla as if it were two words; gah-rilla, so you should take two shots each time he says it, and double your pleasure.
Of course Brad Pitt beat Bruce Lee. He used to have his own fight club in a restaurant basement (I shouldn't talk about that) and he was the Irish gypsy fighting champion.
Bro what's the first rule of that "alleged fight club".... and you forgot that his ma is partial to the periwinkle blue
Hahaha. Good one brother.
Well he didn't even beat him. It ended in a draw. And it didn't even happen. It was Brad Pitt's character imagining what would happen if he was hired and how he would mess up that job.
“ I fucking hate Pikeys”
Dont forget when he used to have do heist in casino's 😂😂🤣🤣👌 funny comment
Bruce Lee literally said that flashy high kicks, jump kicks etc, are good for movies but not for a real fight
cue video of Werdum flying kick to Travis Browne's face. Cue video of Masvidal's jump kick to the dick.
Because they leave you open.
Throw the wrong kick and an experienced fighter takes you down Hard.
Yep. People that trained with him, as well as his family and friends, have said that the "movie stuff" was nothing like what Bruce did or taught.
Steven Watson - Edson Barboza
Till chuck Norris taught him.how to kick
Bruce Lee talked about the weight class difference being very real, he understood that it's a big factor.
@@cheke184 ...your information sources are bad.
Bruce Lee is recognized as the G.O.A.T. all around the whole World.
J.K.D. is an important influence in MMA, and
Bruce Lee is beloved for his contributions not just to the movies but to World martial arts.
@@Petroglyph1 - Then why did Bruce Lee always refuse to compete for real against real fighters? I'm not talking about demonstrating techniques against your own students, but a real fight. He's lost a few, like against Judo Gene Lebell, or against Francis Lay who quickly submitted him.
Yeahi mean, he was a real street fighter
@@cheke184 Jeet Kune do, as a humble Student of the art.
@@randallflagg3700 he never refused. He refused fight with rules. He wanna fight without rules. It is sad that ufc was created so late. Cuz I think he will definitely fight there. And you guys don’t understand, he is half Chinese or whatever you call him, the philosophy of Kungfu do not fight. They always talk how to not fight, even they are learning fight.
"While serving as stunt coordinator for the film Out for Justice, starring Steven Seagal, Seagal claimed that due to his aikido training he was immune to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels." Fun fact LOL
Seagal said that,that never happened and that Lebell is always making shit up and as long as he have known Lebell he is full of shit basically!
@@rexrexrex67 well Seagal certainly wasn't 💩💩💩
@@jonnysupreme I say they were both full of shit, but have you ever heard Lebell's interview?that guy is not one fry short of a happy meal or one beer short of a 6 pack,he is completely out to lunch OMG HAHAHAHAHA!!By the way, that wasn't how the story went,what eye witnesses said happened was, Seagal was sitting in a single couch chair and Lebell sneaked up on him from behind and try to choke him out from behind but Seagal managed to escape ,but Lebell says he choked him into shitting himself ,you decide which story was the real truth.I believe Seagal because Lebell tried to do the same thing to the late Bruce Lee but Lee kicked his ass till he begged for Lee to stop. Apparantly Lebell have a bad habit of sneaking up on people when they least expect it ,anyone can do that ,i can do that to you ,it was not a challenged fight let's go outside type situation hehehe!
@@rexrexrex67 Well one of those guys is a known liar that abandon his wife and children.
Based on people who knew Lebell,Lebell was known for sneeking up on people unknowingly from behind and would grab them from behind and try to choke them out,He tried this with Bruce Lee and with Seagal.Lebell is known liar ,bullshitter or exaggerator by many people,not just Seagal but friends of Bruce Lee as well.Even today when you see him being interviewed he is fucked up n the head!Let me ask you this, A sane person i am assuming,who do you know more about ?Steven Seagal,Bruce Lee or GENE LEBELL??When you answer this question honestly,you will have your answer about whether Lebell is telling the truth about his exploits in life! or is he full of shit?
That Leo DiCaprio scene when he's in the trailer angry at himself was absolute gold.
@@edg.4122 that line lmaooo
It was glorious. I was the only one who lol’d in the packed theatre, too.
@@YazzFlute Haha same thing happened to me, I was also the only that laughed my ass off in hateful eight when Channing Tatum got his melon blow off
AGREED!
That's serious acting 😎👍
Ya loved that scene good and when lil girl told him. That was the best acting she’s ever seen and then leo cryled He deserves the Oscar again . And brad to
Imagine Bruce Lee on Joe's podcast
it would be one of the best podcasts of all time
Lee: Empty your mind. Be formless. Shapeless. Rogan: Like DMT?
Ricardo Diaz lmaooo
he wouldn't fight him, cause he never fought anyone.
This idea puts tears in my eyes. RIP Bruce.
Bruce Lee was one of the first martial artist that cast doubt about these traditional Kung fu Sifu’s skills. He laughed at the out of shape ones who claimed their chi went to their belly when it was just fat. With regards to J. Labelle’s grappling skills being able to beat Bruce, it really is academic and debatable. . Look at Ronda Rousey, a judo Olympic medalist who got knocked down by stand up strikers twice.
Look at Khabib 29 - 0
Did you just compare Ronda Rousey to Gene fucking Labelle? I guess it makes sense you'd compare Bruce Lee to a woman though that's basically what he was at 155. If he fought in today's MMA environment he'd get torn in half.
@@drobert1741 Well, it was a different time. 50 years from now, the very same can be said about the fighters of doing being torn apart. But it WAS Bruce that brought the mainstream audience in the west Martial Arts in movies.
when Rhonda used good tactics that emphasized her judo skills, she was unstoppable.
Then, she abandoned Judo because no one in her division could touch her. Then bring in someone who actually knows how to manage distance, Rhonda goes down.
@@drobert1741not surprised you didn't have anything to say after that response lol
from the 1950's up till the 1960's the most popular martial arts were from japan specially samurai movies. bruce lee changed all that with the big boss (fists of fury in america). bruce lee's screen presence was incredible, his energy seems to explode from the screen that made it seem so real to the person watching it. there can only be one bruce lee!
The problem isn't who can win against bruce lee...The fact was the way he was portraited, he wasn't a bully picking up fights, he was trying his best to blend in with american culture
Exactly!
Fake News
We don't know if he could take a punch and we will never know
You speak as if you where there.
Dude. America literally bullies everyone .
Bruce Lee has deep respect for stuntmen. Remember Jackie Chan? He worked as a stuntman for Bruce Lee and he testified that Bruce Lee respects the people he works with.
He ate with his stuntment on set.
@pornoWmzika They were mostly stuntmen for the other actors
@pornoWmzika well he needed a stunt men to kick through windows and get there butts kicked on set.lol
what are you talking about? he himself WAS a stuntmen.
this was way before he became famous in the states.
Had
Cliff was DAY DREAMING when he fought Bruce Lee in the movie
People love to forget this
No he wasn't, he was reflecting on losing the job Rick begged to get him
I don't think that changes anything about how tarantino wanted to shit on bruce lee💀
Joe pretending this didn't happen in his talk with Tarantino
This was a year ago
"showing off is a fool's idea of glory" - Bruce lee ... he would have kept it simple.
@Zeek Banistor are you serious? Show me once when he acted in such a way
@Zeek Banistor could u provide some sources?
@Zeek Banistor Yeh id like to see the sources, duno about the guys u were arguing with tho. ill give it a like when u post it cuz im just interested in what u have to say lol
@Zeek Banistor You're so full of shit. Your whole argument is obviuously coming from a place of disdain for Lee. You're not a fan and you don't like the status quo narrative about Lee, so you mouth off dispensing inacurrate information that's biased to make him look weak and make those close to him appear as though they're all liers, based on your own opinion of him that you say comes from "sources". I know a lot about Bruce Lee as well. Enough to know your bullshitting about his wife not being there. She was there according to her. You gonna call her a lier about it? And your version of the facts is coming from the side of Jack Man. Linda said that Bruce spend most of the fight chasing him around the room.
Bruce was also won a full contact boxing competition in hong kong in his late teens. Beating the 3 years reigning champ of that competition by ko. This is reported by Linda Lee his wife. I'm not going to assume that she was lying although I'm sure you will.
Does Jackie Chan really know martial arts?
Tarantino did to Bruce Lee what every American director did to him in the 60's, but he did it in 2019.
True
@@natemurphy7758 looks like the jokes in the movies flew right by you genius
@@natemurphy7758 I wasn't just talking about Hollywood,im talking about all of them,he directed Inglorious Bastards where Hitler gets killed in a glorious fashion,he directed Django where a bunch of white slavers get killed,On Hollywood Charles Manson gets killed,these are all events that never happened yet he put them on the screen so people can have fun watching the bad guys of History getting fucked on the big screen,him saying the n word as a character in a movie is not proof he is a racist,you're just being a snowflake
@Jon Bjornssen That's after he became famous...
@@natemurphy7758 I totally agree with you, I don't even know why ppl like his movies, they're so amateur...Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill? Hahaha..
my uncle was a military police man in japan during the post war occupation. before he went he was already trained in boxing and Kung Fu. then whilst in japan he learnt judo. he said combining the best bits of each combat style was quite often encouraged and could turn a good fighter into a very good one. i was lucky enough to spend time with him when i was young and like Le Bell he was a monster of a man. when returning from japan his friend told stories of following him into a bar brawl and see guys flying around the room. he told me on numerous occasions that (especially USN and GI's) would always be trying to gain points with their mates by trying to take him on and generally found themselves being carried out. he accredited most of this to being able to combine skills from his different styles and i guess he was right.
Cool?
When I was sent to Ft Benning for basic I was pretty tough, athletic background and had a couple of fistfights behind me. OH BOY 😳 I came across some 'actives' that seriously scared me, made me feel like a chump..
Bruce Lee was often challenged by strangers and stuntmen and always proved his skills.
No. He typically used some kid of dodge.
@@alphanerd7221 Or Chevy.
@@ArtAcrobats What's Weekend Update got to do with this?
Yup
Imagine looking so much like Bruce Lee that you get cast in a movie to play him and then not win the fight.
Guy didnt look like Bruce at all
@@Roman-tu3vh he did up until he took the glasses off.
He didn't lose the fight though as I remember it was a tie.
@@ozairchishti1264 yeah true
@@ozairchishti1264 of you think he looked that much like Bruce lee then you must have never saw Danny Chan the guy is his twin
He even plays bruce lee in the series on netflix called (The Legend Of Bruce Lee) and plays him on IP Man 3 and 4 as well as a movie that just dropped I forgot the name of it though.
In the next Tarantino movie, Peter Quill Beats Michael Jackson in Moonwalk battle.
I had to look up who Peter Quill was, GTFO of Joe Rogan videos you nerds!
Channing beats Cruz in a robot battle
And everyone's mad because that didn't actually happened
Look at scary movie, they made fun of mj because it's a comedy movie
I think that Michael would win, he was a incredible pro-wrestler ruclips.net/video/Qj6kKiwMEaE/видео.html
Bruce asked Gene LeBell to teach him, he shared his stuff with him, and then later Bruce wanted to create a Hong Kong Stuntmen’s Association
hypotheticals, no one knows who would've won in a fight between Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Just like no one would know who would win in a fight between Ali in his prime and Tyson in his prime. Everyone has a right to say what they think but that doesn't mean it would happen.
Ali and Tyson were both real fighters. Gene Lebell was a real fighter and Lee was a movie fighter. Lebell would have killed him.
I was a stuntman back in hollywood in the 60s. Lee was a friendly and entertaining guy not a bragging showoff at all.
Im 73 . I Was fresh 20yr old stuntman in 66 when i worked on The Green Hornet. And i worked on Longstreet in 71 with Bruce also. I got into editing in 79 after a back injury.
@@maximusareilius2262 wow that's awesome. yea there was an interview i saw him on a bike that had "Bruce" on it. Interview showed him very shy, respectful, etc. I think he's arrogant to the people who he didn't like or that made him like a lower class.
Hi Maximus Areilius, do you think Bruce Lee was pushed a side for David Carradine in the tv show Kung Fu? Do you have an idea or heard word of why Bruce Lee was replaced by Carradine? I read that the main role in Kung Fu was his idea to part to act in and was a vehicle to jump start his acting career in the US but the execs in Hollywood passed him over.
@@8kigana its well known he got screwed over on that deal and it pissed bruce lee off.
@@danieldriggers9488 bruce died in 73. Tarantino was born in 63. So he knew him at 10yrs old? 🙄
For God's sake ... bring someone who actually met Bruce LEE
Problem there my friend is that guys like Chuck and Dan were really good friends with Bruce, and basically owe their careers to Bruce. They're both nice guys too (met Dan, never met Chuck but by all accounts a nice man).
So, they're not exactly going to come on and go "Yeah, my really good friend Bruce? The guy who gave me these amazing opportunities which changed my life forever? Nah, he couldn't actually fight and he was kind of a jerk a lot of the time".
I'd still like to hear their perspectives, but they're just that: perspectives with heavy bias.
What did Joe say that was infactual? Judo Gene curbstomps Bruce Lee.
@@flyinghole sorry but that is bullshit...
@@mikesweeney5619 Lol in what way? The guy weighed 130pounds.
@@imhatepie like being 130 pounds matters when you were as Skilled as Bruce Lee.....
Imagine Bruce Lees foot int QTs face
Hed lick it
The part that I feel like Joe Rogan, and a lot of other people might be misunderstanding about this particular scene in the movie, that scene was shot with the intention of portraying a fantasy. If you re-watch the movie, it shows Brad Pitt's character on the roof fixing something for Leonardo DiCaprio's character, then they go to that scene where Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked, and then they pop back to the same guy and he's back on the roof.
Joe, when are you having Quentin on the show?
Now that would be a podcast worth watching!
Him, Jeremy wade, gordan ramsey and Jackie Chan ✔️✔️
@@yoaogiel8348 and Ron Jeremy.
Tom waits
@@devilsslave1970 I'd jizz to such an episode
Empty words don’t hit back! - Bruce Lee
Mike he was constantly saying crap like Ali. So it’s possible some people didn’t think highly of him
Mike
Where do people pick up these fake Bruce Lee quotes?
SNAKEPIT359 Bloodsport with Jeanne Claud Van Damme vs. Bolo.
@@makedredd299
Oh that's where it's from ? It was many years ago since I watched Bloodsport. Cheers mate.
Bruce Lee should've said:
"Compliant underlings I use in my demonstrations who I tell to stand there and do nothing so I can punch them don't fight back"
:P :)
Bruce Lee was the first to combine multiple disciplines. Also, he had a ground game, and was so quick, you would have to be able to grab him first.
Except that people have been mixing styles for centuries, of course.
Almost everything you said was wrong. He was not the first to combine disciplines. He had no ground game except a few moves LeBell taught him. He was quick but no quicker than an average amateur featherweight boxer.
@@scottcarroll9201
He was no quicker than the average amature featherweight/lightweight boxer??!!
Man oh man, the crap just keeps flowing out of that vacuous, know-nothing mouth of yours.
I'll post a link below to the guy voted THE greatest martial artist to date; heavyweight multiple world champion Joe Lewis telling it like it was with the guy who taught him, nailed him in sparring, and was, according to Lewis, THE fastest striking opponent ever to have stood in front of him. He also says that Bruce hit as hard as a heavyweight, ALWAYS knew when you were open to be hit and you could NEVER tell when Bruce was about to launch an attack on you...
Now I admit and do realise Joe's opinion is nothing compared to a world-renowned expert like your good self, but, nevertheless, I think he's still worth checkin' out below.
Can I strongly suggest in future, you keep that know-nothing vacuous mouth of yours tightly shut and refrain from spewing more garbage about a guy you genuinely are clueless about...go read up on the comments of proven martial artists who actually knew him...
ruclips.net/video/1X2byotY220/видео.html
Those scenes were all Alternate History. What if scenes. LOL that’s why it’s called Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
YummyBaer 👍🏻
I think everybody gets that. but people definitely have the right to criticize the amazing tarantino for his mockery of a historical figure. whats really sad is that if any director would have made muhammed ali look like a buffoon the outrage would be tremendous. its definitely biased and thats the core issue of people
Did you watch the vid or are you just responding to the title..?
Exactly
@@emelz.6895 just saw the title.
Joe Rogan needs to interview all the aged martial arts legends before theyre passed on.
That would be creepy. "Hey. Joe Rogan wants you on his show asap!"
He should get Bruce Lee on for sure.
Would love to see JCVD or Seagal on. Not because I like either of them, but just for the sheer awkward of having a guy on Joe has trash talked before.
Gerbil King Great idea.
Bob Wall...Norris...Urquidez...Dan Inosanto...
Real life Bruce Lee: “Look at my hand. That’s a little Chinese hand. He[Muhammad Ali]’d kill me.”
Quinton Tarantino's Bruce Lee: "These hands are lethal weapons."
never said that you idiot
THEN WHAT DOES THAT MAKE MUHAMMAD ALI'S HANDS? XD
=)
No disrespect to Ali but Bruce would have kicked his ass bad in a street fight
@@dantemagalhaes9462 idk ali was a big dude. hella tough as well, i think he'd just be too big and strong for lee.
@@savagebrickinc9988 Either could win in a street fight but I would put Lee as the favorite because a street fight is no holds barred.
A lot of people forget this scene is in Cliff’s head. He is sitting on the roof and remembering. So it’s from his memory and his POV.
No no the let people who’ve never seen the movie just the scene say Tarantino is racist and a pos
From the book cited by Tarantino, regarding Bruce Lee, stuntmen and the "incident" with Gene LeBell:
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'He had never done elaborate fight choreography on film-his childhood Hong Kong movies were melodramas, not action flicks. Onstage, Bruce dealt with three-dimensional space and an audience viewing from every angle. To sell a punch or kick, he had to land within millimeters of the target, what he called “non-contact gung fu.” But The Green Hornet stuntmen were all veterans of Westerns. “It was a two-dimensional thing where you had the camera over your shoulder,” says Van Williams. “You could stand three feet away from your opponent and swing, and if the guy reacted correctly and the sound effects were right, it looked perfect. Bruce could never get used to working that far apart.” Bruce insisted on close quarters combat. The stuntmen hated it.
They weren’t fast enough to react to him, and as a result, occasionally got banged up. “They got to the point where they didn’t want to work on that show,” Williams recalls. “They were tired of getting hurt.” “Judo” Gene LeBell, a legendary pro wrestler, world-class judoka, and the stunt coordinator on-set, was assigned the task of calming Bruce down. “Bruce would hit you in ten different spots and as a stuntman you wouldn’t know whether to grab your jaw and say that hurt or your stomach,” says LeBell.
“We did our best to slow Bruce Lee down because the Western way was the old John Wayne way where you reach from left field, tell a story, and then you hit the man. Bruce liked to throw thirty-seven kicks and twelve punches.” When reasoning didn’t work, LeBell took to joshing Bruce. “In pro wrestling, they call it ‘the swerve.’ It’s how far you can tease and get away with it,” LeBell explains. “I’d tell him he put too much starch in my shirt.” One day as part of the general joking and roughhousing atmosphere on set, the stuntmen egged LeBell into picking “the little guy up.” LeBell yanked Bruce onto his shoulder in a Crouching Nelson hold-upside down with one hand around the back. Then he slowly walked him around the set. “Put me down!” Bruce yelled. “I’m going to kill you!” “I’m not going to let you down.” “Why?” “Because you are going to kill me.”
Despite the difference in temperament, the two men became friends. “I reckon I teased him so much I eventually got him to loosen up a little,” LeBell says. To Bruce’s credit, he was so obsessed with perfecting his martial arts he put up with the hazing to learn from LeBell. Bruce offered to exchange lessons: kungfu for judo and (Catch) wrestling. “I showed him some legitimate finishing holds, leg locks, arm locks,” LeBell recalls. “He told me he used one of my holds on Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.”'
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Matthew Polly, Bruce Lee: A Life (page 186-7, Kindle Edition)
That’s not how you cite.
@@bucketstuck7137 you do it then
@@reth4761 APA or MLA
@@bucketstuck7137 It really doesn't matter
Thanks for posting this excerpt. It seems like they were good pals, despite Bruce’s serious temperament and Bell’s bantering nature.
Anytime Joe says what would happen if.... I remember he said Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather at boxing and all credibility is lost.
I think he said she'd win a real fight with him which is possible.
@Mitchell Mcnutt
No it's not. You're trying to get ronda hurt. Floyd is not who'd you call, a nice guy.
Looool what nonsense
Mitchell Mcnutt The fact you think a women could beat up a man is hilarious
@@streetsweeper49 I assume you're a man. Can you beat amanda nunes?
"Put me down or I'll kill you!"
"I can't put you down, or you'll kill me"
lmao. Nice
Sounds like Princess Bride dialogue lol, what is it from?
@@Kier4n99 which fight, green hornet?
@@cannonfodder4000 During the filming of Green Hornet, Bruce Lee was hitting the stuntmen for real (like in Hong Kong movies). The producers didn't like it, so they asked Gene LeBell to teach him a lesson. While filming, LeBell caught Lee off-guard and caught him in a hold. That's when Lee and LeBell had that exchange, with Lee saying he'll "kill" him if he doesn't put him down and LeBell joking back "don't kill me, champ." Lee then realized he was lacking grappling skills, so he trained with LeBell and learnt Judo, incorporating it into his Jeet Kune Do style.
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@@RazorEdge2006 That's all true from what I've read but you don't just "learn" judo. It's not like you spend an afternoon with a judo master and then be like "ay man, I got it." It's a discipline that takes years to master. Gene LeBell teaching Bruce Lee a few moves does not equate to Bruce Lee "learning judo."
I seen Bruce Lee with them nunchucks never seen nothing like that before he's a great.
Pathologically lying is an illness
@@ILTSC43 he's talking the video on the internet dip shit
A lot of people seem to miss the fact that Bruce Lees scene in that movie was in Cliffs imagination the whole time.
Joe Rogan with a time machine. “Bruce Lee, have you ever tried DMT?”
stickyfingaz745 stop- I’m done with the DMT jokes it’s unoriginal and hasn’t been funny for months now
No bruce lee just used coke and weed or hash
So fucking unfunny
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@metalligeek093 funny*
Yes, the Bruce Lee and Brad Pitt fight was based on real life. They built a time machine and made the match up. Look into it.
Real shit they just trying to hide the truth....
Pull that up Satan
Faithfull Cheater it’s on RUclips. Look into it
“It’s entirely possible”
Win a real fight Fury
Bruce also focused on his core in ways that influenced modern fitness as well.
I watched the film in question for half the film and was dreading what I thought would be the inevitability of the horrors the Manson family, so I really didn’t care to relive the carnage and turned the film off.
One year later the film was again on tv so I decided to watch it in its entirety. I was relieved at its ending and formed a much more positive reaction to the film. I am 73 and read the account in the San Francisco Chronicle.
The ending is everything that I wish it had been in reality.
The ending was the only thing worth watching and to be honest it wasn’t worth sitting through the rest of that snoozefest
I thought the whole thing was great, after expecting to not like it. Cliff is the everyman, perfectly written. When he makes the hippy change his tyre. The last scene too was great, people getting pissy because a "bad bitch" got her head combined with a fireplace. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, all Tarantinos films are superb.
“I met Bruce when he was working on the television series, Green Hornet,” recalled LeBell. “Benny Dobbins was stunt coordinator for the show and he called and asked me to check out some kid by the name of Bruce Lee. ‘I got this guy who does the same stuff you do,’ Dobbins said. Of course Benny didn’t know the difference between judo and kung fu, but he wanted me to watch this new actor work. One of the first things I noticed was that although Bruce was small, about 130 pounds, he had a tremendous upper body. Bruce was also very fast and wanted to always take the action beyond what the script called for. Once the director called action, he got that and a lot more from Bruce.”
New to American humor, the Chinese actor didn’t know what to make of it when Gene hoisted him over his shoulders and ran up and down the stairs doing a fireman’s carry with Lee draped over his shoulders.
“Stuntmen and wrestlers have their own brand of humor and at first Bruce didn’t take my little joke too kindly,” LeBell said with a chuckle. “Eventually he realized we were just welcoming him into our group and before long he fit right in with the rest of the rowdy stuntmen.”
You want to know about Bruce Lee, talk to Dan Inosanto, we need him on this show!
And didn’t Bruce actually hit Jackie Chan. On accident. Him too we need him too. I’d rather of them bring up Bruce’s visit to Polanski’s place in that time.
THIS!!!
Bruce Lee was very great but always learning and advancing himself in martial arts. He would have been the greatest if he lived longer to then publicly display himself as a fighter
People who lived with Bruce will only endorse that he was an invincible martial arts demigod.
@@lucascosta-mr4mr if the all people that actually met him are saying that....maybe you should listen
Man, Joe Rogan be flip flopping like a mug depending on who is on his podcast lol
@Arthur Morgan It is true that People can change but should also know that Joe really flip flops like a mug sometimes and that shouldn't be hard staying on the internet
It might seem weird but Bruce Lee probably the only person in Hollywood I think I've ever really had true respect for. I'm like everybody else he understands what being a stuntman is and how hard it is on their bodies while everybody else just kind of take that for granted.
Bruce Lee might have been small but he was strong and fast.
Bring Chuck Norris on the show he has met and worked with him
Omg yes this! Bring in Chuck Norris, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Jackie Chan too! (throw in Dan Inosanto as well)
Chuck has changed his stories over the years about Bruce. His pride will not allow him to say Bruce was better then him.
Would love to see Chuck but... Bruce was a great friend of Chuck. He basically made Chuck's movie career. They were really good friends by all accounts. Chuck is also a nice guy. Basically what I'm saying is he's unlikely to say anything negative about the guy. While I'm not dismissing Chuck's opinion, he's not exactly an unbiased source. But would love to hear him on JRE.
@@iorekby you already have said negative things about Bruce
@@BBBYpsi
That's open to interpretation. I haven't drank the Bruce Lee Kool Aid, I will say that. That said, it's besides the point. The point is about the objectivity of a source of information that a lot of people are putting stock in.
Tarantino had Hitler gunned down in a theater by 2 jews, and no one was worried about the historical accuracy. Keep that same energy folks.
Killer B because its Hitler
@@MrSunnyyangyang Yeah and Rommel the most Legendary General of the war of the desert couldn't kill the Lunatic with a detonator destroying half a building in real Life, but a bunch of lunatics with no plans gunned down the dude on a theater in the Tarantino movie, I believe it is more far fetch than Bruce lee being beaten down by a stuntman
If they depicted Hitler as a genuinely nice guy and a loving father or some shit like that 'folks' would keep the same energy for sure. What people care more (despite what they say) is that a respected person is depicted as an arrogant prick without any hard evidence. If you didn't get that...
@@user-eq7qk9bc9b
It was literally a thought of Cliff's in a movie called "Once upon a time in Hollywood." It was taking the piss, how can anyone not see that.
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I think it's pretty safe to say Tarantino was just goofing on the idea of any possible LeBell/Lee early interaction.
The way I heard this story was on the 1st day on set of "The Green Hornet" an AD or asst producer pointed out Bruce Lee to Gene LeBell and told him that Bruce was a "karate" guy and to go over and prank him. Gene went over to Bruce grabbed him in a "Fireman's Carry" and started running around the set with Bruce on his shoulders. Bruce got very angry and told Gene to put him down or he would kill him. Gene kept running around the set. Bruce said "Are you going to put me down or not?" and Gene said "No, if I put you down you'll kill me." Bruce started laughing and Gene put him down and their friendship was born. I don't know if this story is true or accurate but it was the story I heard.
just a story
5:09 "Where did he learn it?" Bruce Lee was taught by Yip Man. Shame on Joe Rogan for not remembering and mentioning this.
do u mean judo
He also learn a lot from Chen his street fighting partner in Hong Kong, even if Gene had grabbed up Bruce from behind it wouldn't have done much to Bruce and he would have found a way out of any locks or holds Gene had on him. Then Bruce would have jumped back and then forwards in the fencing stance and proceeded to slap Le Belle. Ding DING. How do I know it went like this? because all of Bruce's fighting friends became his students including Lebelle by regularly going to his DoJo not the other way around. Joe also failed to note that Bruce often spent 16 hours a day in and around the gym and could dead lift over 700lbs. That's the equivalent of Joe going down to 130lbs and making that dead lift. Personally I can't see doing anyone of those things can you?
@@kyleday5026 No, not Japanese Judo, which is grappling. Yip Man practiced Wing Chun, a Southern Chinese Kung fu style, which emphasized relaxed but quick hands.
@Utös Utös you ultimately speak of what Bruce constantly strived for in life, balance.
Bruce picked up only some steps until 7 from Ip Man, it's Bruce who mixed wing chung with striking and grappling to develope eventualy JKD, so the only one who made Bruce was Bruce himself...no ip man, no gene lebelle or chuck norris...it's not the technique but the man behind the technique that makes it efficient
The actor had the perfect bone structure and facial features to portray Bruce Lee, I couldn't tell the different with his shades on.
Yeah except Bruce Lee had a totally different physique- way less fat on him (not that the actor was in bad shape)
Yea thats because all asians look alike
Except he was portraying 60's Bruce as if he were 70's Bruce. Big, big difference between the two.
I was only kidding, im asian so i dont think that, although i do think white people look alike haha. They should have gotten afganistan bruce lee to do it. This guy literally looks like lee
Looked nothing like Bruce Lee at all. More like a character version of him.
Actually, Miyamoto Musashi was one of the first martial artists to do what Bruce did, as far as taking multiple styles and making your own. Innovativeness in martial arts dates back before recorded history most likely. It just happens differently each time with different types of combat. Its all play on strategy.
Everyone was doing that forever.
Lee copied and sold everything as his inventions to Americans because no one knew.
All Chinese systems are a back and forth combination of other systems and styles. Northern Longfist is a mix of at least 15 other systems. That's the Jing Wu system that Won't Jack Man did.
Praying Mantis, put together in the early 1700s, is over a dozen systems. (Uses Great Ape/Monkey footwork btw lol)
The Japanese systems integrated Taiji, Bagua and Shuai Jiao (fast wrestling, take downs etc) into Judo and Jujitsu. Traditional Karate comes from Fujian White Crane with some original Hung Gar (when it was just Tiger) brought to the Southern Japanese islands by Chinese immigrants in the 1390s. They modified it with the systems they were using.
@@Chronicskillness EXACTLY AMERICANS DID NOT KNOW AND HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THEIR NAIVENESS . i was not going to say anything but MAS OYAMA BORN IN 1923 AND DIED IN 1994 THE CREATOR OF KYOKUSHIN KARATE STYLE-- HE was another one who also put different fighting styles together AND NO MOVIE THING WITH-HIM--HE ACTUALLY WENT AND FIGHT THESE STYLES IN THEIR DOJOS AND THEN FIGHT DIFFERENT STYLES AROUND THE WORLD, he also was an AMATEUR WELTERWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION IN ASIA
@@dragonflyjones1527 Mas Oyama is an effing badass. My Northern Longfist & Xingyiquan teacher also trains serious Kyokushin and Goju Ryu.
Lol it's hilarious because if you popped in a thread and said "Mas Oyama could probably take Bruce Lee in a full contact or challenge match" people would lose their shit.
When it wouldn't even be ethical for Mas Oyama to actually fight Lee. Be an in shape actor getting unequivocally beat by a real fighter.
People don't know the real timeline. Bruce's real childhood, what he actually learned in Hong Kong, what he was actually doing 1959-1965 when he came to America, how different Wing Chun actually is from other CMA, or why his students & the professional full contact Karate champions said/say the things they do.
What I also noticed is people take 1970 Bruce Lee, the one after he trained with Jhoon Rhee, Joe Lewis, Jim Kelly, Chuck Norris, James Yimm Lee and his friends... 5 years of training which isn't actually *that much*
And they place an embellished version if that caricature in the early 1960s before the Wong Jack-Man challenge match. Then they talk about how Lee taught Lewis, Kelly and Norris.
Because you know, he got training with Lewis, Kelly and Norris all those years. Like... bro... not how it works. Lol
Childhood actor son of famous actor and rich socialite mother came to the US knowing one and half beginner forms/kata from Wing Chun. First form has zero footwork or kicks. You literally do not even change stances.
His own letters to his teacher explain how he didn't even start sparring until 1966. Basically putting as that's when he kinda started training a little more serious.
Lee is credited for making MMA a thing in America. Which he did. Lee did not "steal" anything. He learned from many. Used what worked best and created jeet kune do.
@@joshuapinkley8562 im just saying SIMPLY that he was NOT THE FIRST TO DO IT and MAS OYAMA,was sooo very EFFECTIVE IN COMBINING THESE FIGHTING ARTS he got a challenge from THAI BOXERS AND HE AND HIS STUDENTS DEFEATED THE THAI FIGHTERS IN A REAL FIGHT IN THAILAND under muay thai rules-- THE ART OF KICKBOXING WAS POPULARIZIED BY HIM, it was really his student at the time tho, kenji kurosaki i think that pushed for the popularity of kickboxing , cause, he was the only one that got beaten and was focusing on where he went wrong in the fight-- NO DISRESPECT TO BRUCE LEE-- BUT -- THERE WERE OTHER GREAT PEOPLE OUT THERE AND MASUTATSU OYAMA WAS BEFORE HIM IN MIXING THE ARTS. BY the way i am a fan of bruce lee too im NOT CRAZY OVER HIM but im a fan and i miss brandon lee very much too.
Just listened to the Quentin Tarantino interview with Joe and he explained this scene pretty well! I get what he was talking about.
Cause you are an ill informed person who believes everything your told
Tarantino on Kill Bill: " I'm gonna use his Inspiration and fight scene from Fists of Fury " Also Tarantino " Let's make a mockery of his legend when I release Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Both turned out to be very fake... I dunno why ppl watch his movies.
@Edwin C. Hmmm, I do like watching movies that are MORE realistic! Does Scarface and Enter the Dragon give u nightmares? Pulp Fiction & Kill Bill are more childish than cartoons! Tarantino is even worse! I can't imagine how his breath smells like... LOL
MAYBE THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR LIL KIDS LIKE U! Have fun riding ur marry go round!
@Edwin C. Since u like watching Tarantino's kids movie, U R A KID!
Even Ice Princess is more adult than Tarantino's fantasy gangster & Kung Fu flicks!
It's actually quite disturbing that u like watching his movies... sick!
Imagine watching Tarantino movies looking for realistic interpretations of history
Tony Peterson what a fuckin clown you look like taking this high ground talking about how tarantino movies are bad. yes totally one of the most well known writer/directors of the last 40 years actually makes bad kid movies and we’re all wrong and you have the superior taste in movies 🤡
My dog smoked dmt earlier today. Now I woke up at 3 am to find him watching the Joe Rogan Podcast.
One of Bruce Lee's close friends was Jhoon Rhee who was Korean taekwondo master. Rhee shared his kicking technique with him which Bruce Lee incorporated into his fighting style and Bruce Lee taught Jhoon Rhee his lightning fast punch. Lee's technique was so amazingly fast that Rhee dubbed it the "Accupunch". At one point he demonstrated it to Muhammed Ali who couldn't block it so he asked Rhee to teach it to him.
For Example, the downward elbow is banned in UFC for a reason. Try tackling or exposing to someone that will just drop the elbow on the back of your head instead of putting hand under your chin. You can’t practice this in sparring cause it will knock you out without much force. Then try it against someone that will tie, in eye gouge, groin strikes, bites, headbutts, so many of my Jiujitsu friends don’t realize I could have just head butted you but we can’t practice that with pure jiujitsu or judo.
“Bruce Lee was a small guy” Joe Rogan is like, an inch taller than him
So? I'm sure joe Rogan can point out someone is a small guy while also being aware that hes not a big guy himself, and I think he meant his height and build
Rock Huerta Bruce Lee weighed 145 at his heaviest. Joe Rogan weighs 200lbs. Yes Bruce was a small guy.
@@IsthisMike Bruce was 32 and like nobody fat. Bruce was 5'8 did you weigh him back then?
msw51995 no but his autobiography said he was 145lbs at his heaviest. So yeah he was small.
Bruce Lee would have knocked the DMT out of rogan's bald head. Rogan is barely above retarded people.
Bruce Lee would have never bragged like that in real life especially to someone like Gene a warriors mutual respect
I believe the Bruce Lee scene sets up the end of the film.If Brad's charecter can be competition for Bruce Lee then it's believable that he could thwart the Manson followers at the end of the film.
you know it
One person brought up this possibility - the scene was Cliffs own recollection of the situation, therefore it might have been that he recalled him to be arrogant and uppity because he views Lee as a pretentious poser, which would make his memory of the circumstance an inaccurate representation of what Actually happened.
Tarantino literally uses real quotes in that film
It certainly does not make any sense that Lee calls his own student Joe Lewis an A**hole. What sensei would call a student an A**hole?
The ONLY person that COULD have tossed Bruce around that was a Stuntman back then was "Judo" Gene LeBell
Everyone believes what he wants to believe.
Joe watching fighting movies: OHHH, HE'S HURT!! HE'S HURT!!! OH, HE'S GOT HIM ROCKED AND HE KNOWS IT!! OH MY GOODNESS, OH MY GOODNESS!!! :D
HE'S HURT BAD!
Bruce Lee
“My style? You can call it the art of fighting without fighting.”
― Bruce Lee
OR mind f**king someone."we'll take that boat go to that island,You first." HEHEHEHE
Yes, completely different persona to the way Tarantino portrayed him. From stoic philosopher to rambling clown/bully.
Upjumpsthefunk Enter The Dragon🖤. My favorite Bruce Lee movie ever. Respect.
@@Devlin000 yup,Mr.lee your skills are extraordinary.Your battle with guards magnificent.I was going to ask you to join us.Then Washington,said I was strate out of a comic book.I F**K him up and killed him.Hahahaha😜(or sumthing like that🤔)
Hank Moodkiller facts once you get to that island 🌴 it’s a wrap lol
This is the same guy that said Deontay Wilder would beat Tyson Furey in a rematch 😂
Whats wrong? Everyone has their opinions who's gonna win.
@@vipr1142 Dude Bruce would kick you and Joe's Butt. Now move it our lose sister.!!
@@thomasfurey00 COOR STOLY, TERR ME MO'E ABOUR IT
@@vipr1142 sister sister it's OK now. I think Bruce is best.
@@thomasfurey00 lol no , it's a gimmick , bruce knows how to use kayfabe . basically he's just a pro-wrestler taking a gimmick to another level.
he has no legit fight record nor even a sparring session with anyone , he's famous video doing anything physical is the one inch punch that is basically a shove.
and he's so called teacher is a hoax too . dude came from a family of actors for theaters and operatic singers. he knows how to work the crowd. and during his time kayfabing a character is popular in the entertainment business like how would professional wrestlers did back in the day to keep their legitimacy.
bruce lee had nothing to do with the popularity of mma today or even martial arts in general. he is one of the many thousands of hoax from the old chinese "grand masters" to the mcdojos of americas. he name is just kept alive cause it still sell merchandise.
It was a damn movie so everyone needs to chill out. Everyone knows how good Bruce Lee was.
Are you that dumb or what?
@@tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
Not at all tell us what he was good at?
All these comedians. Wtf do you think he was good at? If you don't know this I can't help you.
It's like it's everyone's first time watching a Tarantino movie😆
All sucks .
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to call out Bruce Lee for the Underworld Lightweight Title
And easily win.
Not this time Ferguson the type of guy people. Member tony still the guy not to get a title shot o.
Rolando Ortiz gn
Tony the type of guy to trap farts in a jar just so he can experience farting on his own face.
Never forget that Bruce was a street fighter too. That's where he got the nickname 'Little Dragon'. The guy knew how to kick ass an not just in the movies. Plus legs are a lot more powerful than arms. Anyone who's ever taken a good kick vs. a good punch knows that. You can't grapple someone if their kicking your head off it's block.
He sparred kickboxing heavywieght champ joe lewis frequently
@@scarzandy436 he never sparred with Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis says he never even saw Bruce spar.
Bruce was not a street fighter.
@@cuzz63 ruclips.net/video/AXdG577px94/видео.html skip to 1:48 and then allow him to explain the rest buddy
@@cuzz63 he got in alot of fights in his younger years aswell as multiple sources confirm this
I know for a fact that bruce lee never won every fight - this is from experience. We dont learn to be by winning at everything, more or less, the best always lost to be better than who they are then and now. Manny, lowmenchenko, aderson silva, chuck, GSP., list goes on. to think they never lost a fight to be better is just silly. I believe it when people say bruce lost fights because you dont become great at something until you are humbled. Bruce spent years perfecting his art of combat for a reason, he had fire, drive, and every reason to prove he wast the best because at some point someone was better than him. I love bruce and he is human just like the rest of us. much love tho, rip the great bruce lee.
Bruce lost fights as a delinquent child, where he fought in his school and in his neighborhood all the time. He then came close to losing a match against another very experienced Wing Chun fighter in his late teens to prove himself, but won at the very end, which was a formative experience for him. Not much is known about his fighting after that, he moved to the U.S shortly after and it was years before he started surfacing again fighting-wise. It was in those few years that he became a master beyond compare. The very first time he went up on stage to teach what he knew of Wing Chun and martial arts to try to get some students for some extra money, a retired marine in the crowd heckled him and said he was a fake and that that stuff doesn't work in real life. Bruce told him to come up on stage and try to touch him in any way he could, which he did, and he made the marine look like a fool. Countering every move and easily incapacitating him in front of everyone. That marine was his first student. Afterwards he quickly gained a reputation and a following, and according to every single account of L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y everyone that knew him after that point, he never lost a real fight again. And it's not like it was close or anything, he never even got hit again either. So yes, he lost some fights as a child and as a teen while he was still learning, and again by all acounts, before Ip-man died he was never able to beat him either, but after that he became the one and only legend we all know today, a great fighter with no equal.
Bruce was a superhuman on another level. He was the greatest. Bar none. No Muhammad Ali, no Mike Tyson, none of these MMA guys we know today. They couldn't touch him. He was the greatest fighter of the last century, perhaps even of all time, with no exceptions. I don't care what fighting style it was, what their background was, what they tried to fight him with, they lost, horribly, every single time. There will never be another man or fighter as great as Bruce Lee.
@@the_black_swordsman7184 Jimmy Lee told me that in all the times he had sparred with Bruce he had only touched him once.
The problem with Joe and his love affair with Ju Jitsu, is that in a street fight there are no rules. In the UFC, there are rules. If I was ground fighting with someone, I would use joint locks on my opponents hands, I would eye poke, I would bite the person...Also, let's say we're playing hoops one day and things get a little heated. Do you REALLY want to ground fight on the concrete where barely hitting your head could split it open? The UFC has a cushioned mat surface and artificial walls (the octagon). Show me a martial art that works in all conditions and I'll study it.
I’d argue maybe Krav Maga is the most practical form of martial art.
@@Justin-qe3tj Krav Maga is not martial art. It is is a military self-defence and fighting system like the russian systema.
@@theplayer2319 fair enough
The best ‘art’ form for a real fight is boxing - fact! And it is an art form.
@@theplayer2319 krav maga is a fighting style. Just because it's used by the military and focuses on killing doesnt mean it isn't a fighting style
And your also forgetting that Gene himself said that he went to Bruce’s dojo and learned from him!
I imagined khabib vs connor dominance.
So did all the champs of the time like Mike Stone, Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, etc. At one time the top 5 champs were all getting trained by Bruce.
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 This old myth again. *eye roll* They were not getting "trained" by Bruce Lee. They were training TOGETHER. As both Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis have said: Bruce was not a fighter, he was an actor.
@@scottcarroll9201 You're wrong and haven't read anywhere near as much on the subject as I have. Chuck definitely acknowledged getting trained by Bruce. Joe Lewis didn't say that either. In fact he lifted his five ways of attack directly from Bruce Lee.
@@scottcarroll9201 they never said that lmao
“Hey George it’s me, Cliff Booth”
“John Wilkes?”
I heard this question twice in my life at two jobs I worked at during lunchtime: "who would win between a boxer and a karate guy?" I think Tarantino is asking a similar question in Once Upon a Time. Of course what we see is Cliff Booth's version.
Current karate or real karate? Those guys used to be animals.
Depends on the skill level of each fighter and their weight/height/arm reach also can effect the outcome.
A huge mass of a guy that does not feel your blows can just sit on you. Fight over.
A small guy who knows technique and can apply it can take down a more inexperienced and/or slower fighter.
So many variables, but the common word is a real experienced Wrestler will win if you don't put him down before he grabs you, and if a strong fast boxer connects on a MA fighter it will be over.
It seems the MA person is at a disadvantage in both scenarios from all accounts I've read especially if those boxers/wrestlers have a considerably mass & speed to them.
It makes sense too that MA is more a dance, like doing yoga for flexibility, stamina, & power but doesn't give you the raw bulk strength the other disciplines (and genetics) give you.
The one thing a small guy like Bruce had over the other arts would be his insane speed.
If he could avoid your blows and land his own then that would be the time to win, otherwise the other person could get the upper hand, if it was a prolonged fight.
"I fear not the man who knows a thousand kicks, I fear the man who has practiced a single kick a thousand times." - Bruce
[This is why Bruce is so loved not because he could beat everyone, because he even admits he couldn't, but because he was always growing, and studying philosophy and passing it on to other who wanted to learn]
Gene Lebell was an announcer in the 70’s for pro wrestling in SoCal. He would act afraid at times when interviewing wrestlers. It was a great act because I had read in Wrestling magazines about Lebell’s abilities. He could have crushed any one of them.
The AAU was the largest amateur sports organization in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s. A very serious title.
In FL in the 70s-80s Gordon Solie was the best interviewer and commentator. He made it seem so real to me when I was young. Gordon was a great actor as well. Every now and then a wrestler would get in his face and he would act all shook up. He was great! A legend!
Again, misconception about Bruce Lee's martial arts. It is NOT a combination of best things from different martial arts. Bruce Lee's first choice in a fight was a fingerjab to the eyes. Than it doesn't matter how strong you are. "Finger Jab is the most effective attack." -Bruce Lee
Hi Landsmann! :-D
Ich weiss eigentlich sollen die Leute hier Englisch schreiben aber ich hab gerade keine Lust. Wir zwei verstehen uns ja.
Hast Recht mit dem was Du schreibst. Ich kann auch langsam nicht mehr verstehen, warum dieser Irrglaube sogar im Ami-Land immer noch präsent ist.
Aber Rogan hat halt auch keine Ahung von Lee, musst ihn mal hören wie er zultzt mit Brendan Schaub gesprochen hat, die haben einfach 0 Plan wer BL wirklich war und was er konnt wenn s drauf ankam.
LeBell gegen Lee ist vom Speed wie Bagger gegen Ferraro der Elefant gegen Gephard, nie im Leben würden Gene den packen können, ausser wenn Lee vorher ne Flasche Schnaps trinken muss, dann schon da er kein Alkohl vertrug. :-D
Grüße von einem Landsmann, ich weiss Du bist TM (Initialien), wir hatten Anfang 2017 auch mal gemailt.
from what i read about bruce lee he was the best jim kelly said he was unbelievable and a brilliant martial artist and it did not matter what size and he sparred with other martial artists he did not mention who they were also i read that bruce lee had very strong core and high chi and he once said the best fighter is someone who is best at grappling judo etc www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/bwkqlr/why_they_call_bruce_lee_the_godfather_of_mixed/ also joe lewis said he was the fastest most power person that stood in front of him i think because gene labell was taller and different weight and had championships people assume he would be better because he was taller
True. But SSF IFO JKD GER only mentioned it is simply NOT true that Lee mixed different MAs together like a salade bar and this is JKD.
@@NDoraku das stimmt..
@@kyleday5026 "High chi" Hahahaha, get the fuck out of here.
We need to convince Joe to get Dan inosanto on his pod cast somehow I think it would be a fantastic interview...please make it happen Joe. ..Who's with me?
pistolchimp make it happen Joe!
@L Franco me either lol
Joe "I've known Gene" Rogan
I love this movie, I also enjoyed the scene. At the same time I thought to myself, do I like this? Because Bruce is such a hero.
Just watched an interview with Joe Lewis and he credits Lee with his development of kick boxing because Lewis was sick of point fights. He recalls how strong Lee was when he held a 75lb bar out with straight arms in a horse stance and held it there. He said he was incredibly strong
I got to sit in on one of Joe's black belt tests back in the late 90s. Points fighter or not....Joe was a fast, tough, skilled old man at the time and very dangerous.....you could tell the young guys taking the test wanted no part of him. He had alot of scar tissue and big fat swollen knuckles....You get that from hitting and being hit.
It's well known he used dbol.
75 lbs is 34 kg. I tried to do that. It’s pretty basic for a trained person. If you look at Bruce Lee’s gym card, his numbers are average. That doesn’t change anything of him being a great martial artist though
@@Wolf-rb4or How much do you weigh tho.
@@dannygjk Tony Yu is probably lying, never replied.
"Gene was huge, a bear (178cm), Bruce Lee was small (172cm)." There is a difference, but not that big.
And maybe 50lbs
Except size is not all about height
@@seangannon1025 50 lbs is a huge weight advantage against a guy that weighs 135.
@@alphanerd7221 exactly
But Bruce Lee was fast. Speed is strength.
In a grappling match? Forget about it. In a real fight? It may have been over in seconds yes....IF the gorilla grabs Bruce. Or,,,,, IF Bruce lands a Finger Jab to the eye, his greatest technique-probably he's the only human who mastered it doing hundreds of reps each hand everyday based on his training book seen by Bas Rutten or often mentioned by Dan Inosanto. Or a groin kick, another one of his favorites. Joe's right it would have been a real unpleasant fight....good for them they became friends.
I don't get how Tarantino could do this to Bruce Lee after using his yellow tracksuit for The Bride's costume design in Kill Bill.
Because it was always about taking, not honoring. I like some of his movies, but he's a POS human being.
@@goodnamestaken oh fuck off ur just a snowflake pussy, he said the n word once in a movie as a character doesn’t make him racist. He had nazis killed and scalped in inglorious bastards. White slave owners killed in django unchained. All in satisfying ways he’s not a POS ur just a snowflake pussy. This wasn’t even a real scene in the movie it was imagined
@@Scheboygan8767 I'm with you. Bruce lee is not invincible. And I appreciated the twist
@@king_vision4085 these snowflakes just saw the scene and not the whole movie and don’t know it was all in cliffs head and not real
What exactly did he do, acknowledge that a much larger Green Beret war hero could beat him up?
Anyone who spent some time researching Bruce Lee,knows that he would never trashtalk on Mohammad Ali or any other boxer in general.
It is well known,that Bruce Lee was a big box fan and admired Ali.There are interviews by Bolo Yeung and Joe Lewis,where they say that Bruce was studying Ali´s technique and specially his footwork.There´s even an interview where they ask Bruce Lee if he could take down Ali in a fight. He answers: "In a proper boxing fight,I wouldn´t stand a chance against Ali,just compare his hands with mine.In a streetfight,without any rules where anything goes,maybe I could win but that´s all hypothetical."
Apparently bruce's wife wrote in her first biography, he believed he would best Ali in a fight. Source is quentin tarantino
@@abzi03 maybe bruce personally believed that but was respectful and proessional enough to not say it. or maybe it was just another exaggeration.
@@abzi03 Tarantino also is still a bestie of Harvey Weinstein,that says all.
I love Bruce, but everybody knows he could be pretty arrogant some times. Also, he was very confident on his own abilities. I could see him stating that he could defeat Alí.
@@abzi03 "Source is quentin tarantino" xD
tarantino has problems with reading comprehension, because bruce's wife was quoting a critic, it was something that some critic said, not bruce himself
So old hearing about who could have beat Bruce Lee. Give the guy a break. He has no way to respond.
"O'Hara!"
@@Cagon415 😂😂😂👍
@@Cagon415 man you are straight out of a comic book
😂💯
@@Cagon415 he said that just to make Bolo say "hà"
Joe folded when Quentin was on his podcast tho, always doing a 180..
Exactly.
Exactly. He always pusses out when actual famous people are on his podcast.
Rogan isn't gonna actually express his opinions when he has RDJ, Norton, Tarantino, etc.
It's a fictional movie. Cliff is a fictional character. Fictional characters have unlimited potential that is left up to the writer. You could use this same scene and replace cliff with superman and people would have still bitched.
Tom Papa is the most clueless guest and yes-man ever.
The only thing he got seriously opinionated was Stranger Things reference. Turned out he never knew what 'reference' actually is.
Brendan Schuab has some competition with Tom Papa.
"Yeah", "right","exactly!" on a loop for 2 hrs.
@@DapperCracker512 lol ya, but at least Schuab is stupid in a funny way, Tom Papas interviews just make you angry at his stupidity.
What a loser right? Imagine having a dad like that worthless life
Tarantino thinks Bruce Lee is a jerk. Tarantino was friends with Harvey Weinstein for decades, so he must be a great judge of character!
Tarantino is a little bitch. Last time I heard about him, a few years ago, he was complaining about people capitalizing off of violence or something. LOL. That's exactly how he became rich and famous.
Choco Manger I don't remember him complaining about that, you got any sources for that?
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They are both ugly ( Weinstein and Tarrantula ) for Weinstein was the only way to become sex, ropes women.
Bruce Lee was, is a icon he can have all this women’s without violence !“
This is the the way of fighting without fighting !
Tarrantula is nothing Brad and Di Caprio are nothing compared to Bruce Lee.
This is calculated to earns mo cinema payer, earned more money with this sacrifice ( Bruce was beaten from Brad 😂😂😂).
Sad, sad, sad.
I have liked Brad but no more !
Tarantino also defended polanski against raping a 13 year old girl
To be fair, everyone was friends with wienstein, everyone thought he was fantastic when he was making everyone lots of money, right up to the point the shit hit the fan with hashtag# then everyone drop him like a hot potato?
not all kung fu lacks grappling, remember that jiu jitsu was originally formed from people studying chinese martial arts and chinese wrestling. white crane for example actually contains an arm bar and a knee bar and a double leg takedown as well as a few good standing throws, even though jiu jitsu is japanese, the people who made it did in fact study white crane, mongolian wrestling and chinese wrestling and elements of sumo (the original version with strikes and grapples)
all jiu-jitsu is sword technique people who think otherwise probably think samurai didn't have access to firearms, wrestling has no origin cavemen used it, wrestling with rules is different. jiu jitsu has no rules.
Mr Rogan, you’re misinformed concerning Lee’s prowess as a MA. Around the world, he’s known as history’s great Martial Artist.
Joe Lewis said he possess blinding speed, especially with his hands.
Stephen Thompson said Lewis told him the hardest guy to hit him was from a 130 pound dude,
And that man was
Bruce Lee.
Norris had stated in interviews that pound for pound the strongest man he ever met was….
Bruce Lee
@Dre Marshall - dude, he’s been gone for nearly half a century, and some of the top mma guys hold him in high esteem. You’re a nobody compare to these guys.
Btw, when u passed, no one would even know u existed with a global population of 7.4 billion people presently on this planet we called Earth.
My dad was a state tournament high school, and U.S. Navy wrestler, and wrestled with me from the time I could crawl.
I started Tae Kwon Do at 14 years old, and when we sparred I kept asking the owner of the dojo why I couldn't defend myself, if we were learning self-defense. He would tear me to pieces, verbally, about the, "impurity," and the, "dirty," fighting I was distracting everyone with.
I would show my dad what I'd learned, and 1.5 seconds later I would be on my back with my arm between my legs.
"That working for you?"
"That's what I keep trying to tell them," I would reply, hoping to allow for a decrease in the pressure on my crotch.
Two years in, I accidently connected on the wide open nose of the, "star pupil," and though I apologized for hitting what he left open, my reward for training him for what he'd see in tournaments a month later (he was shut out in his only fight in his only tournament), was to have my right knee thrust kicked backwards. Six months of physical therapy, after surgery, and returned to the school long enough to put every single student's back flat on the mat with basic takedowns: one day, less than two hours.
A family friend who had recently retired from a very specialized role in the U.S. Navy heard about my situation. I began ten years of training with him regularly. He had studied not only wrestling and Tae Kwon Do, but Judo, Ju Jitsu, Kung Fu from several very different practitioners, a bit of Muay Thai, and something I had never heard of called Krav Maga. I was amazed. What made sense to me was to use what your brain could learn and your body could use.
I remember asking in Tae Kwon Do, when being shown three techniques for kicks to your opponent's head, " this takes too long, it won't be effective in a real fight! It makes as much sense as punching someone in the foot!"
I got an angry glare, but no answer.
I've been in a lot of fights. Far too many. I had many people try head kicks, and every one of them lost the fight soon after.
Thanks, Dad!!!
Metalbass10000 but has joe try to kick you
Ummm ... okay.
To much time on ur hands
Most men confuse fighting and self-defense. In self-defense you should always use a weapon unless you cannot; only a drooling moron would agree to flush his life down the toilet to feel like a fake tough guy for a moment and take on someone unarmed. Hence the saying "nobody is stupider than a young man" because lots of young men would love to flush their life down the shitter like that. If, however, you are being confronted and don't have a weapon then a head kick has been proven to work many times. The thing about an offense like that is that once it connects, it's bound to do some damage or pain whereas in judo and wrestling there are holds that give your opponent plenty of time to think and bite and twist and squeeze your vulnerable areas. They neglect the importance of the element of surprise, which is crucial in self-defense and meaningless in ego fighting.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I have never heard a saying, nobody is stupider than a young man," but anyone who says that proves their own stupidity. And arrogance. Have you ever heard the phrase, "nobody stupider than someone who insult someone they don't even know?"
Did you even understand anything that I said? Taekwondo "teacher" wanted to teach me a bunch of forms and things that are not useful in self-defense. When someone attacks me I am now in a fight.. If I am walking out of a building and a a person throws a kick or a punch at me I am now in a fight. I never said I wouldn't use a weapon, in fact in Krav Maga if you look at what I said it is about learning in your brain what your body can do and it encourages knowing your surroundings and using anything you can see to your advantage to end the situation as quickly as possible.
I've been in 138 fights in my life. I've had probably 16 or 17 people throw kicks at my head and every one of those people ended up on their backs. You want the element of surprise? Try throwing a kick at the head of a person trained to defend themselves and you'll be surprised how fast the back of your skull get bounced off the ground. To say that they had time to twist or grab, no they did not. Because before they hit the ground I was beginning my next attack and generally had plunged my elbow into their face seven or eight times in less than two or three seconds then I got up and walked away and ask somebody to call for an ambulance and probably a dentist and an oral surgeon. Or I would move to the manipulation of their wrist or their elbow or their shoulder are there any rain coat or their knee. Orange Show. All of those are incredibly quick maneuvers. Go watch a real fight. Go watch two people trained in multiple forms of self-defense they call it MMA oh, and watch the frequency of head kicks and watch How often they actually work. There is nobody stupider than someone who attempt a battle of wits when they are completely outgunned. Have a nice life
Nobody:
Joe Rogans head: ☀️☀️☀️
Hahahaha
Fucking lols man
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Frank Crespo he’s a Leo, ruled by the SUN....and people don’t believe astrology.
So majestic...
Van Williams (Green Hornet) and his stunt double Bennie Dobbins were the inspiration for the characters in Tarantino's movie. In an interview in 2016 before Van Williams died, he stated that although Dobbins and Lee did not get along, they NEVER fought.
I started training Jkd back in the late 80's. Take this with a grain of salt. But the story I heard growing up in the art back then. Judo Gene put Bruce in an arm bar and Bruce could not get out of it. In the movie Enter the dragon. Bruce showed his escape in the scene where he bit the guy.
I never heard anything but Respect for Judo Gene from any of the instructors I met.
The thing with Bruce you might not be aware. He was small but was way stronger than he looked. He had I think a 500-600 lb heavy bag. He figured if he could get it moving and stop it with a side kick he could launch a normal sized human off his feet. During one movie. Showing off for James Garner I think. He jumped up to kick a chandelier he cracked a rib or two.
Biting someone isn't an escape though. It's a way to tick off the guy breaking your arm.
@@alphanerd7221 one of the JKD guys that worked with the military. He developed a way to properly train biting. They would wear a neoprene suit and attach raw meat to so you could learn to chew through meat.
He specifically talked about that. Yes a bite might piss someone off. Chewing off a face or an artery not so much. Thing more like the chimp attack on that woman's face. Or an animal attack. Not your sex life or wrestling practice.
Joe Rogan has lost his touch. As if Bruce Lee would be so stupid as to underestimate Gene. Gene was his friend first and foremost. Gene loved Bruce, theres a video on youtube.
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MrTruboy Rogan’s kick will banish your soul to another dimension, wtf you mean
@ Video Master, Labell wouldn't last 2 minutes. Bruce would shoot two fast oblique kicks to the knee, followed by a roundhouse, then an elbow to his temple
MrTruboy Rogan has more competition credentials than Bruce Lee, has trained with some of the top fighters in the world, and commentated for the biggest mma organisation in the world. But apparently "he isn't a real fighter".
It's worth noting that LeBell was a x2 US Judo heavyweight champion, and back then the heavyweight limit was between 80kg and 93kg. Or 176lbs to 205lbs. Given that Lebell also wrestled with a bear, I'm guessing he was closer to the high end of the heavyweight scale.
Look at the size of the dude: He was large and was hard as nails, a former catch wrestler, and Judo expert.
ruclips.net/video/n9mER2BmNRA/видео.html
www.ozy.com/true-story/debunking-quentin-tarantinos-mockery-of-bruce-lee/95956
It would be arrogant to presume the outcome of any fight. But... I'd be more surprised if LeBell lost vs Bruce Lee back in the day.
Tarantino has an axe to grind?
Django Unchained was heavily censored after been banned in Chinese cinemas.
And more of his movies were banned and censored in China so maybe for him a motivation to get even and vent his frustration on a beloved chinese cinematic icon.
Just my two cents.
I think Tarantino is a Putz but I don't think he would hold china censoring his films today into hating Bruce Lee.(And I also think Bruce is way over rated by fanboys when they are comparing him to modern MMA guys in a fight)
But Bruce Lee was more of a Hong Kong star than "China." Oh well ...
People got pissy about Bruce Lee's depiction in the movie, but they don't realize that Tarantino's movies take place in an alternate universe that is much more violent than ours. IRL Bruce Lee is a decent guy, in the Tarantinoverse he is kind of an arrogant prick.
To be fair to Tarantino, that scene was actually a day dream that one of the main characters had. So the idea was that it would be exaggerated is because it wasnt based in reality but rather the day dream
Who says it's a daydream and not a memory of a previous incident?
"Put me down or I'll kill you!" "I can't put you down cause you'll kill me!". Lol. It reminds me of me and my brother fighting and saying silly crap when we were kids.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time Joe Rogan says the word "GORILLA"
TheBad Guy66 Soooo many times!!!
TheBad Guy66 - Two shots. He says it like two words; Gah-rilla!
@@kato64 More like two from one sentence lmao rewatch it if you seriously only heard it twice
TheBad Guy66 - No, he said it repeatedly. I meant he said the word gorilla as if it were two words; gah-rilla, so you should take two shots each time he says it, and double your pleasure.
"So that's the kind of fight it's gonna be?!?! -Mickey
Bruce Lee probably couldn't even use chopsticks