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I missed this. Thanks for making people aware of Right to Repair. A lot of people think I am an asshole(and they're probably right), so it helps when people they like talk about Right to Repair. It means a lot!
I never believed i'm interested in apple board repair and you proved me wrong. Love what you're doing man, props from across the pond
Exposing the truth make you an ahole for them. Thank you Louis!
Whether or not youre an asshole is irrelevant (imo) and it should be. However having someome who is so passionate, informed and well versed on this subject is exactly who should be spearheading this campaign. And being polarizing, like a lightning rod, you will draw in alot of energy and comversation about this so I hope that your fight and this is a fight to be sure will carry on and be successful.
Hi big fan of yours wish you luck in this fight!
You should have Louis on the WAN show at some point
Pushing this comment so we can see Louiss PoV
I think a ltt video is better. (On the main channel)
It’s the French spelling, not the Spanish spelling. Louis Rossmann is his name
@@labadaba5088 Sorry, forgot how to write it 😅
@@dhm-2920 yes, main channel with Luis
European here. I donated to Louis campaign because I want American tech be easily repairable no matter where it is used. I say we should all do our part and pitch in. This is a global issue and it's getting worse.
The shear waste and pollution all around the world because of corporate greed is disgusting.
I also donated being an European. There are a lot of consumers benefits that we enjoy here that were created in the US. This concerns us all.
Luckily the EU is working on laws that are meant to decrease the ecological footprint of tech companies which include (but are not limited to): the right to repair, the obligation to create repairable parts and make them available as well as a standard for charging cables and ports.
@@fanjestic4294 They will fail catastrophically.
@@MiGujack3 Eastern european here: no we won't. But it's gonna be a long battle due to globalism - it doesn't matter where it is made as long as the thing is repairable. If not: eFF that.
Actually, when my microwave died, I opened it up and found a standard appliance fuse inside. I switched it out and was back in business. Long live DIY microwave repair!
yep, in college we were to cheap to buy a new fuse so wrapped the old fuse in tin foil and put it back in, So lucky we didn't die.
I also opened up a microwave that died a while back and boom inside is a Circuit diagram and part numbers. Also similar on a stove.
This reminds me of when I repaired several e-readers. Amazon Kindle e-reader are barely repairable due to almost everything being glued in to help meet their low price points, but I find Kobo e-readers to be easier to repair, alongside various other reasons I prefer Kobo over Kindle.
Same thing with Old-school radio and TV repair. Just find the old service menus.
As long as you are careful, microwaves can be dangerous due to large capacitors.
This video should have a Link to the gofundme
+1 for this
Agreed, gofundme link should be in the description
It should. I'ma put it here since it's not there.
www.gofundme.com/f/lets-get-right-to-repair-passed
I tweeted at them 😤😤😤
@@GrantOberhauser its an oversight. Don't get huffy lol.
This was actually started by the farming community. I can't remember what state, Nebraska, Iowa, whatever. They were having issues with their millions of dollars john deer tractors with simple repairs. I don't care who started it but I'm glad people from all branches are getting involved. The more the merrier.
We need more emphasis on not only repairing devices and equipment but also work on reducing waste and finding ways to process waste and especially recycling, electronics, plastics, clothes, other materials.
And now recently with car manufacturers.
Yeah, John Deere is the absolute worst for this. Imagine a farmer can be out in their fields, bringing in the harvest before the rains come and destroy it, then their combine stops and refuses to continue to run because the air filter is at its rated end-of-life. Fine. So they go into town, get a new filter and slap it in there. Simplest job in the world. But then the combine won't start because the combine's computer didn't get the okay from a certified technician with the magic laptop. Not the end of the world, you call the service center to get a technician to the middle of your field ASAP. Tough luck, they don't have an appointment for three weeks. Meanwhile you have eight million dollars in soybeans that are going to be ruined by the rain that's forecast for three days from now. So now you're staring bankruptcy in the face because John Deere wants their service center to get that sweet sweet on-site service call fee anytime you touch ANYTHING on the combine that you allegedly own.
John Deere has literally ruined hundreds of farmers' lives with their anti-repair policy. Hundreds more have now learned how to hack Ukrainian firmware onto their tractors so that they can perform any kind of maintenance or repair themselves. The executives at John Deere are vile, evil people who should spend the rest of their lives in prison for what they have done.
Companies should be more responsible and accountable for recycling.
More responsibility not only for companies but also the government on regulations.
In this day and age a computer serves the same function as any other piece of professional working equipment. It’s a tool that people need to do their jobs, and a person should be able to maintain their tools themselves if they so choose.
Could be a Tractor, could be a laptop, could be a pickup truck or a weed wacker.
@@benoitboyer3287 is that legal in the USA? Holy shit.
Apple: We are a green company and directly create ways of sparing E-waste
Also Apple: Sorry we cant repair that charging port just throw the phone away and buy a new one.
It Is SoLdErEd tO a MoThErBoArD
@@KotMatrosk1n so?
@Digby Dooright
I agree. The only thing luring me into their ecosystem is exclusive third-party software. Otherwise, I'd rather stick with Android and desktop Linux whenever I can.
modern ecology in a nutshell
@@kkklover89 it's apples excuse as to why it can't be fixed in some of their models.
France passed a law earlier this year requiring all products to have a “Repairability Score” ! It’s brilliant, hopefully more countries take it on. The iPhone 12 gets 6/10 ..previous models were 4.5! Goodness knows what the Mac M1 is.
Probably a 0 based on the videos I've seen so far
There should be a main channel video about this to bring more attention to right to repair IMO.
Yes!
And Not Just on the WAN Show as most casual viewers won't watch that either.
There was a few years ago but yeah they’re due for a new one
Frankly a mention of it should be tacked onto every video as if it were a sponsor spot.
I agree!
To the guy talking about not letting their software out. Look at what John deer has done... locked hardware replacement to proprietary software that can only be done at dealerships. Farmers literally have to hack their tractors software if they don't buy hardware repairs from John deer.
I had a locksmith over the next day after purchasing my house to rekey locks for me so realtors or those with those keys couldn't get in my house, since apparently EVERYONE in an area uses the same keys for all the doors. I mean, I guess it makes sense. Anyways, back on point, the guy was trying to talk me into getting a smart lock, and I was like: LOL, NO THANK YOU. Some things should remain mechanical. Also, if you think about it, lockpicking is going to be a lost art. SO, those of us who stick with mechanical only locks might have better security than those with smart locks.
@@tdata545 it be a really long time till that be all over the world. But your right about it.
@@tdata545 as someone that had friends on the way wrong side of the law most “lock picking” is brute force getting in the door. Bash the lock in get in and get out. I’ve heard smart locks make them laugh because it’s just an ad telling them dude has money to burn. Just as easy and gives them a definite timer to peace out. All a lock does is keep an honest man honest
@@TheMetroidblade Well when skill and finesse fails; brute force prevails. LOL. Fair enough. BUT yeah, my thoughts exactly.
@@stevenp3176 The difference is that at least in the EU programming the battery replacement can be done by just about any repair shop because the gneral diagnostic and non-safety related programming has to be open for non BMW proprietary diagnostics tools. This at least gives you the freedom to not being force to have the battery replaced at a BMW Dealership.
Not being able to repair potentially robs us of the next generation of engineers and innovators,
Yes, the sort that fixed their own cars etc were the sort that got Americans to the moon. There is a good/bad reason the US can't go to the moon again this year.
So you're saying important skills in the population will be lost? Sounds awfully convenient for certain interest groups.
Thanks for mentioning that. I hadn't considered that side of things. I mostly dabble in things like mice, keyboards, and small devices like portable clocks.
Which is a goal of theirs.
You can just go to a school for thousands to learn that formally, get indoctrinated and get certified😷
@@underdude9818 you mean you can be in debt for the rest of existence for wanting to learn something that can be done at home.
Funny thing is the Nintendo switch is super easy to repair, so yeah, you can make small portable electronics repairable. Changing the battery on the switch or joycons is a really quick and easy job
Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
Ooh, I love new quotes and that's a mighty fine quote you got there. Damn shame if someone done took it from you.
Louis unfortunately HAS to think big with right to repair, because it's not about individual cases in the US, it's about court precedent. He has to fight for the people who want to repair their own tractors because if the court says they're not allowed to, it's more likely to say that macbook owners aren't allowed to either.
Yes, everything is big picture if you actually want change. So many people fail in this department these days.
And honestly, any Movement in Right to Repair is worth supporting. I don't fucking care about Tracktors, I don't use them, I don't need them, nor will I never need or use them.
But that doesn't Matter. If you buy a Tracktor, you should own it, 100%. Do whatever the Fuck you want with it, that's none of my Buisness, neither is it the Buisness of the Tracktor Manufacturer. You might risk your Warranty, if you tried to Modify it or failed fixing it. That's ok! Not ok is locking the Entire Machine in Software, so you can't repair Crap. It's not ok either to not sell Replacement Parts, espeically on expansive Tech, Machines and Equipment.
Apple: we care about the environment so we are removing the charger
Also Apple repair service: JUST BUY A NEW ONE
CONSOOOM
Companies can go on all they want about how recycled their components are, reusing and repairing comes before recycling
Recycling is very inefficient anyway...
@@pvshka better than landfill but yeah it is. It is gradually getting better though. I just wanna know what recyclingf large car batteries from EVs will look like on a large scale once they eventually become the norm
@@errorcode503 hardly better, and only for some materials. Landfills are actually quite efficient (buried ones, with non-toxic materials that can decompose over certain period of time). Recycling could be good, but it requires a lot of unreliable conditions to be met.
@@pvshka The landfill I know is quite bad with lots of toxic waste under the grass and it is now starting to become visible again and the waste is going into the sea (I live in a coastal town). Is suppose it ain't too bad if done properly.
@@errorcode503 yeah, toxic waste that isn't safely contained, and mixed with naturally degradable materials is a no-no, huge environmental hazard, especially for drinking water supplies. Sadly, lots of waste disposal companies cheap out on safety measures.
Help support spread the word for Louis Rossmann 👍
@Jim Bobjones in what way ?
Lois have done a good job and it's not in vain. 350 million people is very satisfied with he's work. Theese 350 mill live in the EU. EU have implemented right to repair in legeslation. Remember EU is the worlds biggest market for theese firms. Without Lois I am pretty sure the proces would have been delayed several years. Thnx Lois.
No, I'm legitimately curious as to why you think so.
"Apple the multi billions and billions and billions dollar company" Market cap as of 4/6/21: 2.188 trillion dollars.
Joe Biden said apples market cap is one billion, trillion, million oh, oh you know the thing......come on man.
@@barrycooper8640 "I-I got hairy legs" - Forgetful Freddie
Market cap is only the value of all their shares out in the wild. Actual value of Apple is much higher
@@paniniman6524
>Actual value of Apple is much higher
Wrong.
Market cap is how much it would cost to buy all the shares and therefore own the entire company and all the assets.
If it costs $100 to buy a company (all the shares), but that company has $150 sitting in the till (the "actual value"), it would be a no-brainer to buy the company and liquidate it.
@@paniniman6524 oooh someone didnt listen in Economics
Navy is locked into various maintenance contracts that block mechanics from doing most types of repairs we weren't even technically allowed to paint this stuff has been going on for a long time
One thing that bothers me to no end is the fact that you (Americans) pour so much money into military, but still outsource production for all vehicles and machinery instead of keeping it in-house.
@@pvshka most of it is in the country but it is basically intended to be a job creator
The military budget is mostly not about keeping the nation safe. It is pork for the areas where the politician live.
@@kensmith5694 Sorry dude, but that's not entirely true. Are there cases where they have spent money on things that they shouldn't have? Sure. But for the most part what we have is the best of the best. The reason we are the lone superpower in the world. The reason people/other nations are afraid of taking us on. They know that they will be in a world of hurt due to the shear firepower the US has. Touch us and you are going to get whacked, HARD!.
A perfect example of the military budget paying off was the Gulf War of '91. All that high tech enabled us to absolutely demolish Saddam and his army in a span of 6 weeks. We'll see what happens if/when China decides to take us on either directly or through Taiwan. We sail through the S. China Sea all the time with warships. They don't like it one bit but they take it because they are afraid and know it will get ugly for them real fast. Unless of course you are one of those that think Kuwait should have just been given to Iraq or China should dictate who and what is allowed in the SCS where $5 trillion worth of trade passes through a year.
@@sluggoman2551
I disagree. The cases where they spent more than was reasonable account for more than 1/2 the budget. It is also not really true that the military has the best of the best when it comes to the hardware. The US has a massive amount of quite deadly stuff but calling it the best of the best is not supported by the facts.
The US went to war against Saddam which was taking on a 3rd world country. This was no contest and would have still have been no contest with half the US gear. You may want to look at things like the A10s vs the attempts to replace them to see a waste of money.
Nothing you said changes my mind.
My family and I have worked many years in automotive and being overall repairmen or handy people. It is a fight for everything i try to repair. I just started work as a power tool repair tech. this shit is hell.
We the consumers need to collectively let the companies know they we want to OWN the devices we PAY for.
@Max შემიწყალე That quote does haunt me because we're going towards that. Free and open hardware and software are no longer niche enthusiast stuff. They are a necessity.
People already have this choice, you can buy products from companies that provide parts etc. Nothing forcing people to continue buying apple etc products
@@blahblahbleh__9046 That's the thing. You don't have the "choice" as long as it's the norm for companies to not provide parts and resources to enable repair. It's not the choice to buy a repairable phone - it's the choice to repair whatever phone you buy. Even an iPhone.
that goes for software too. downloading games that you can't play offline is insane
@@blahblahbleh__9046yes, its called monopolies/duopolies. its called mega-corps
Tech reviewers can bring so much of the needed support to this movement. Imagine if reparability was highlighted in each review.
Most of them would NOT go against Apple.
What's the point of advertising reparability in a market fundamentally dependent on constant new releases of hardware? Their entire revenue stream is reliant upon an endless deluge of brand-new annual/twice-annual product releases that more often than not are hyped up in a fashion that makes previous editions come off as obsolete - so why bother repairing a product being insinuated by these very same authorities as trash a year after it's been released? Hell, it goes well beyond just reparability - how much waste has been generated simply from the sudden decision to universally regard disc-based storage as obsolete trash?
It's why Linus keeps these rants firmly contained to WAN where relatively few people will come across them compared to his main channel videos, he understands perfectly well that the fundamental nature of what he's complaining about is what keeps his bread buttered. Oh and for good measure, here's constant reminders to buy a new water bottle on top of the 3 or 4 you got for free at conventions or wherever currently collecting dust in a kitchen drawer. Or an electric razor on top of the shaving equipment you already own for no other purpose but for shaving your balls. Because the environment, wink wink.
@@tomservo9254 as painfully correct as you are, this is still a factor thats bound to effect even the most unaware consumer. Its sad that we have to deal with half assed tech these days
Agree. The tech media really really like to either ignore or at least downplay repair-ability, and companies sustainability etc It's hard to find this info.. Why is that? (Both secretive companies and poor research).
it's 2021.. FFS. Be responsible.
@@kamotetops1572 most reviewers aren’t provided review units by Apple, so why not go against Apple?
The thing that happens now isn't "Oh, we'll make this easier so more people buy our product", its "oh, fruit company can get away with it? Cool, then we can too"
This is also a good reason to go "open source" on hardware and software. Open source stuff tends to be better documented and easier to repair. Fixing a software bug or replacing a battery both fit under this.
To the degree that the market will fix it, it can only happen if there is an alternative that is not just as bad.
Back in the past, HP made PCs with a special hard drive mounting slide that made it "impossible" to add your own 2nd drive. It was only "impossible" because they didn't count on my skill level with some plastic stock and tools.
Woz already answered this! Steve was the first to do it, but they shift money away from the engineers and focus more on marketing. They also hold back the engineers intentionally.
I know a couple of people who work in the industry. And from what I've heard, some companies specifically instruct their engineers to make products impossible to repair without damaging them. One of my friends even said, it would be easier to design a product that's repairable rather than the opposite, as a repairable product is generally also easier to assemble and make. But if they want to keep their job they have to follow what the higher ups want.
@@carlangelo653 This is why I hate the tech industry. I love technology, but it seems like you have to sell your soul if you ever want to make a living off of it.
@@reinhardtwilhelm5415 The tech industry as a whole isn't actually that bad. It's the tech giants within the industry that are really bad. But since they're the ones we see the most they drag the name of the whole industry along with them.
@@carlangelo653 apple did it first, they got away with it. The others followed suit ,now we're stuck with their crap. And with no better alternative, they'll continue to grow and not give a fuck about their consumers. Apple paid 3m usd fine for intentionally slowing down old phones when a new model arrives. These big tech aint afraid paying cents in repurcussions for the money that they're crap generates.
@@Tamerleine Look up the Pine64. A smartphone that doesn't use Android or Apple's OS. Removable battery. Made to be easy to disassemble and fiddle with. Very easy to swap to different operating systems in it. There are pre-orders, but this is for the community edition. This community edition is intended for developers to start fiddling with the actual phone and hardware so, while it's possible to use it as a full smartphone, a lot of stuff is janky and has a bunch of optimizations to do.
The phone's only $150 to $170, which is pretty good for the modest specs you get. I think that project, and others like it that might crop up, are showing potential.
You don't get to be the richest company in the world without being scummy as hell.
The world we live in where we don't even own some of the things we buy.
In soviet Russia you own "things"
@@robertandrews6915 you "own" "things"
@@leovang3425 you "own" "things"
@@ninpgmer8959 "you" "own" "things"
Read the EULA on any piece of software and it will tell you that you do not own that software. You have only purchased a license to use the software.
Right to Repair is super important. If we dont get something in legislation soon its going to be very hard to ever get these kinds of laws passed.
Never bought an Apple product and never will. I have strong morals and will go out of my way to boycott dishonest companies even if it costs me more time. You save money in the long run. I'm an electro-mechanic that build industrial tools and one of our main selling point is we don't use any proprietary components. All our machines are easily serviceable and I truly believe it is the only right way to do business. I raise my hat to Rossmann and the Linus media group for taking part in this battle.
"stop buying apple products" good point. But if right to repair gets banned you wont be able to repair ANY PHONE
@Joe lol dont love a company, love a product if its better than competition. Once apple makes a shit phone and another one company makes a better one for cheaper its plain stupid to blindly follow your beloved company lol
@Joe they don't love you and it shows
@Joe it's okay to have certain passion for a line of products, but don't let it descend to consumer fanaticism. Remember, all this companies ever do is striving for profit, never for your welfare.
@Joe thats very sad honestly
@@jstan5802 ye never forget companies are not your friend and never will. They are there to earn money and whatever they do, however noble it seems, its always for profit
Yeah and now the very city he's working in is taking him to court over something that his business doesn't even do. They're trying to say he broke the law by selling used laptops without having a registry of buying them. They're all refurbished laptops he pieced together from items that were never picked up he never purchased them in the first place.
Isn't it great how if you're a rich, powerful company, you can do the most wildly immoral, unethical, and scummy shit in the world and it's all fine; but if you're just one of us 'little guys' and we do something that is even slightly *questionable* the government comes running after us to punish us.
@@DeadPixel1105 The US is going down a drainhole that's for sure. Politicians aren't even trying to hide the fact they get millions from these corps anymore.
When people get pissed at something they might say "you don't even know what you're talking about" and I love how Lewis became the "excuse me, I actually do"
One correction - storing Lithium batteries almost discharged is not damaging (as long as you do not over-discharge the battery).
I completely agree with the rest. I hate how hard it is to fix things.
Woot talking about Rossman. Love his videos as much as ltt he is a great advocate... used his advice to fix my Radeon r9 270 cause I can’t seem to get a 3060 ... with out Louis rossman or ltt I would be without my tower atm ... :) that an i will not support scalpers. an without the right to repair my own stuff i would be without a GPU that atleast lets me play til i can try an get an MSRP GPU :(
I replaced my old iPhone SE battery... then suddenly the fingerprint scanner got disabled lol.
that sucked man
That was done by apple deliberately through software
That's software, there is a code that needs to run true it to basically calibrate it in and make it work
Is that really intended, i know apple is doing shady things, but connecting touch id with the battery is even too low for apple. Did you maybe make a mistake?
I think what happened was the home button flex got damaged during disassembly. Because I definitely had replaced iPhone battery many times and it didn't disable the Touch ID
This needs to be on the main channel and other RUclips channels like Marques Brownlee, jays 2cents, bitwit, etc. at the end of the day this could hurt everyone including people not in the U.S. and environment.
I remember Louis giving the details about the military thing . It was something to do with a piece of equipment that had a fault and when the contract was drawn up between the maker and the military there was something in it saying that the faulty item had to be returned to the maker for repair and no parts would be made available to the military so stuff could be fixed on site . Thats insane , you are in the middle of a war or whatever , the thing breaks and instead of replacing a small part on site you have to send it back to the USA , BONKERS .
Its like , pause the war for 7 days while we get this fixed
I know someone who fixed radios in Vietnam. He tells of one radio that would fail if hot. The replacement would fail too and so would the next. He tracked it down to the component level but replacing entire assemblies was all that was allowed and the replacement also would fail when hot.
Something similar, watch the history of lightbulbs and how they were intentionally made worse to increase the sales volume
Yep the Phoebus cartel. Veritasium made a video on it.
Yes and no. There is a three-way tradeoff with incandescent bulbs between lifespan, light quality, and energy efficiency. Yes, you can make a lightbulb that will last literally forever. But the light will be orange and it will draw ungodly amounts of power to keep it lit. Take traffic signal bulbs as an example - their lifespan is more than three times that of a household bulb, but they consume 200 watts to put out as much light as a 40 watt desktop bulb. The place that consumer bulbs ended up at by the end of their era was a pretty optimal tradeoff between those factors.
The most notable example that I know of are stockings. Apparently they used to be incredibly tough, when they were first invented, but were later made much more fragile, because nobody had to buy replacement stockings.
Yes, I saw that thing about the stockings too.
Good thing that we're moving on from those old bulbs to LEDs and stuff. I'm not an engineer and won't even pretend to know the intricacies of the matter, but it seems like things are moving in the right direction (ie a better quality, longer lasting and efficient light source)
@@saahilprusty7280 Even LEDs are going that way. They've gotten cheap enough that the quality has gone down so much they don't last longer than incandescents.
I am glad that you understand what is going on. Your government, and our government is part of the this issue. They want to put the local mechanic, farmer, and repair person. We want to be able to repair or have our own stuff repaired not throw it out and replace it. They don’t want us to own anything. This is a totally throw away Society. One day you will not be able to upgrade your PC. Think about that. They are coming for all of us. 😀✌️
You can't fight or change the government unless you're a lobbist backed with millions of dollars. Playing devil's advocate here, with the way technology is advancing and getting cheaper, right to repair isn't going to matter because there are many people WANT to upgrade their phone ever 1-3 years. This isn't a problem if you're a PC enthusiast because your tower gaming PC is easy to work on and you wouldn't buy a gaming laptop if you care about upgrading the CPU/GPU. Besides, most people don't keep their PC/laptop for more than 8-10 years before the platform is obsolete.
@@Shorty15c4007 I believe that we live in a very historical time, especially someone my age who was there at the beginning. We need to change our governments. We are all losing our personal freedoms. The right to repair goes so much further than the person saying I can’t fix that I will just buy a new one. It affects the parts manufacturers, the service company, and many others. You are in effect killing jobs, and putting all the power into the hands of a few big corporations who don’t care about the customers. Apple was just sued for using a inferior ribbon cables in laptops that connected the display. They knew that the cable was defective, but kept putting it in the laptops. This makes no good business sense. I have worked in manufacturing for IBM many years ago we would get revisions everyday, that made the products better and more reliable. Today no one cares about the customers. Years ago if you made a product as bad as Apple, General Motors, John Deere and Boeing you would be out of business. It is because they belong to the governments old boys club, they get a slap on the wrist and move to screw the next group of people. This has to stop. The government as we know it is very defective. Time to fix the governments and then the companies. Today’s governments do not serve the people they rule the people as they always did. Time to change this. The people have the numbers on their sides. Time for real capitalism to take over and show them how to treat the customers correctly. I blame all of us for letting it get this far. We need to clean it up. 😀✌️
@@jamesjava1782 unfortunately, as long as people keep buying overpriced apple products for the clout, this trend will never stop.
Companies be like: why stop a modus operandi when its been so successful and doesn't show signs of weakening?
@@Tamerleine granted, pretending the current mentality of people hasn't been pushed and marketed by the corporations themselves is a little naive. There NEEDS to be more education and public awareness, and normal people will hopefully understand.
@@jamesjava1782 I’m sorry man but what you are describing is real capitalism. Capitalists are incentives to trend towards monopolization to push out competition. Once the competition is gone or everyone plays by the same rules these sorts of anti-consumer decisions can be made. Capitalists only had a reason to care about consumers and the quality of the product until the point where people weren’t going to go buy something else. You can’t clean up capitalism, it will always trend this way. The solution is moving beyond the capitalist system.
There should be an LTT video about this
I second this.
There are 3, search up "linus apple repair"
Another significant factor is the battery is often stored on the body, meaning higher temperatures (same with phones)
It would be awesome if you guys make a video in support
Glad to see linus giving some air time to this, should be a very important issue to every consumer.
Thanks guys for highlighting this issue! This needs to be forced on all companies that close off the right to have any of your purchased devices to be repaired! As a child my home town had dozens of repair shops everything from TV's to fridges to washing machines. It is a disgrace that we pay through the nose for these allegedly high end technologies but have no means to repair them affordably or even at all without damaging them to get into them!
On the software topic: here is an example about the pairing thing. Fuel injectors for cars have tolerances in manufacturing but this tolerance needs to be known by the cars computer (icu) to have the motor work most efficient and with lower pollution. Shops need special software to pair the injector to the motor. But other than apple they provide the shops with this software or communicate the protocol to third party company's that make the obd testers that the shops are using.
Here’s the thing about military equipment. They have the parts because that was part of the buying contract (in most cases). The problem comes from the labor time that it takes to repair/replace critical failure components. Due to the manufacturer’s design, these components are in hard to get to spots or hidden behind other components which take time to take off. An addition problem is by the time the contract expires, the manufacturers sometimes discard their tooling to make many of the parts, since they initially created a huge backlog and the military ended up breaking those parts more often than what the manufacturer anticipated. With no tooling and the military offering not enough money to recreate said tooling then the military runs into a parts issue.
Linus explaining how lithium battery works is my one of my key reasons why I choose a phone with big battery over small battery but witth faster charge. I use my phone to chat, browse, and watching vids. I dont play mobile games and my phone(samsung m31) can last 2 days with normal usage, sometimes 3 days if I just do minimal stuff.
I have this old guy who has been in the electronics world forever he can fix almost anything I bring him...he has saved me thousands of bucks fixing so called unfixable logic boards or industrial controls. It's really awesome when he fixes the board that the company who specializes in fixing this specific industrial control board said it couldnt be fixed I needed to invest in a 35k retro fit on my gravel sorting conveyer ya 300 bucks later and few diodes wham bam thank you man I'm back in business.
Got to watching a bunch of these clips one day and this one from a year ago hit me right in the nostalgia bone. Linus hums what sounds suspiciously like Daria’s theme song @4:33. “Only 90’s kids know about this…”
@13m30s .. software .. on john deer tractors it will toss an error code that requires you to plug in a computer with "special" software to look it up
Keep in mind that this is Apple, a multi *trillion* dollar company with one of their taglines being "Does More, Costs Less" believing that they need more money quick.
John Deere is pulling the same stuff as Apple, they have basically locked down their software so that you can't clear or even find out the codes that are stopping your machinery from working. I've worked with John Deere equipment in Australia, and remember fondly of waiting 6 hours for a technician to rock up to clear a code for some def sensor, something that if we had access to the software or simply a way of resetting computers would have saved hours of our time.
I agree. My Mi Max 2 used to be usable whole day on battery charge despite 50% capacity loss at the end of 3rd year.
Interesting point - it explains why my S7 edge battery is still pristine. usually charge it from 40-80%
Have you used accubattery to check it? I can’t see a S7 having decent batter life in 2021
APPLE: We make premium products and why go to non-Apple repair shop if you can avail our expensive Applecare?
SOMEONE: You forgot to mention how your repair staff will do anything to explain that the repair doesn't cover by Applecare and offer us to pay instead.
Absolute heroes. Thanks guys. We need more content like this. You have the audience and you can catalyse a reaction.
There’s a reason most multigenerational family owned farms in the states use equipment that is 60 years old. Old John Deere are easy to fix. I work in the gun industry, and it’s really interesting. Regulation on guns is really freaking hard to deal with so we try very hard to keep inventory on hand and easy for replacement.
"Impossible but themselves to repair..."
There are lots of times they even cant repair that...hence "Replacement"
Lmao this has to be my favorite LTT segments cause not only A: I'm a cell phone repairman and B: LTT is based as hell here
Everytime I see "based" I just imagine a regressive homophobic idiot in a basement that watches Ben Shapiro and thinks he's smart
@@abhinavjha3082 that's a bold claim considering I do none of those things
@@marcheeto4978 I'm not saying you do those things, considering "based" is used by a lot of people nowadays regardless of their views. It's just that I have a particular dislike of the word because of its origin
@@abhinavjha3082 that's fair I guess
@@pvshka wtf? Wrong guy
The capacity definitely directly effects because of the damage that can happen when recharging a completely dead lipo
I think it's important that you described the electronics that are hard to repair as disposable. That's a very strong word to describe electronics. And I think it needs to be, in order to wake people up to the realization.
I'm literally in the process of repairing my microwave 😂😂
be real careful
I really isn't that hard or dangerous. Just discharge all the capacitors properly with a suitable resistor and make sure the shielding envelope is decently intact when you reassemble it. They really are simple machines. And Louis' concern about giving his family cancer is quaint but wrong. Microwave radiation is non-ionizing, so it can't give you cancer. It will cook your flesh like it does food, or give you cataracts, but in either case it will hurt like hell long before it actually does any harm.
Repairing stuff is great
Careful!!! The radio-electro-mangotron-inator might step out and kill your family if you dare show it a picture of a screwdriver!!!! 😂
Just repaired my fridge today. Water dispenser would stick on and keep dumping water. Sometimes I was able to flick the handle or shut it off in time, others my cup would overfill and water would go all over the place. I had enough, popped trim pieces off, took off some screws, and found the problem was a $3 microswitch. The manufacturer only sells the whole dispenser assembly for $162. My dad even had a compatible switch laying around, so I was able to repair it for free!
"Apple DELIBERATELY designed these to hurt the consumer" sounds like something for LINUS MEDIA's ONLYFANS account starring James and Riley.
Don't you dare speak evil of this heavenly project
@@paulelderson934 Okay, I under estimated the value of James and Riley's ONLYFANS.
Good on you both for Hardwork.
I am all in for easily replaceable stuff and I don't know if it's the same for AirPods, but MacBooks have really good battery management and can stay constantly charged and almost don't take damage.
Agreed, right to repair is very important
Put the gofundme link in the description
Please talk about flexgate/stage light!
(specifically how Apple only fixed 2016 13" models, when the issue is present on 2016 15" & 2017 13/15" models)
There was a court ruling here in chile just the day before yesterday where apple has to pay every iphone 6 through SE owner 50 bucks for the designed underperformance applied to these models applied through iOS updates
if people cared they'd stop buying apple's shit. if apple finds that it makes more business sense for them to do these kinds of devices and the consumer does not care, then they will do it.
Sadly, it not just Apple pulling this kind of crap.
I support the cause but I’m to invested in the Apple eco system. Although, you won’t catch me buying a Mac! 3k and I can’t play games on em.
This is basically what the problem goes down to. People keep buying Apple because "the ecosystem", basically not only Apple ducks the, they ask to be ducked.
But, but, how would they status signal and show the world they're someone important!?!?!?!????
It's not just Apple, almost every big player is doing the same thing.
Unreasonable planned obsolescence is environmental negligence and crime. Pollution is against public welfare and violates various Codes of Ethics.
The real issue is the public mindset of product obsolescence. People will always want to buy the latest and greatest thing, which is why companies like apple do this, because they can get away with it.
@@victorbaez8673 Imagine there isn't a "latest and greatest" product every 6 months
@@pratyushjayachandran the only problem is that with something new always coming out things can quickly get outdated. In reality devices can still be functional but there is more of a want to buy the newer and better product, naturally of course. And there isnt anything wrong with that but then it comes down to how quickly new tech is bought and older models are discarded.
@@victorbaez8673 in most cases it's a marginal improvement. I'm still using a 4 year old phone and computer. I'm missing 3 cameras and latest graphic card but is it slowing me down from clicking pictures and designing on CAD? No. Of course when it's time to buy new, I'll buy the best available.
the laws on planned obsolescence are quite narrow. unless there's a built-in timer, it's probably not considered planned obsolescence by law. and even if there's a real timer, if there's an argued reason for it, you're off the hook.
1:30 hahaha got me there lmao
My dad fixed the microwave, bought a tiny soldering kit, bought a mossfat (or however it's spelled) for replacement, simple enough board repair. 25$ all in. To have someone service the microwave would have been 100$ flat rate + parts and labour. 30minutes of poking around the board and 10minutes of figuring out the soldering for the first time. Priceless.
I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 130 headphones and they straight up run on NiMH AAAs so you can swap out the batteries and they last a while only issue is obviously voltage drop off on headphones so they last a while but you don’t get the full charge. Literally can go to a convenience store for a battery replacement for high quality headphones and yet you need a repair shop (I’m assuming apple store) for the air pods. Has no one else done this before and why have they stopped? I’m actually interested.
Why I bought my sennheiser over other charging brands.
@@slip6699 I purchased Sennheiser IE80s specifically because they have a replaceable cord. Even if you're careful about snagging it, it's still the most common failure point. The downside is that they are a proprietary standard where they connect to the earbuds, though that's not a serious issue, the connector is quite simple to replicate and people have. So for me, I have a choice on whether I want a official replacement, something better, or something less expensive but will get the job done for 2 years or more.
@@SuperFriendBFG Another apple problem, my family doesn’t have a single used functional cable because all of them break at the connector so the ones we haven’t used work as backups instead of landfill stuffing.
Ahh, but they ar SENNHEISERS, man! That says it all right there.
I think any company should have a repair grade and if their repair grade is bellow C they would be strictly prohibited to say that they are environment friendly xD
My Girlfriends car is a 2009 Kia. If the car has a bad ignition not only do you need to buy the part ( of course) it is recommended to have the kia dealership install it. Once it's installed the car still will not start. You must have it at the dealership to have the keys sync'd to the car so the ignition will start. This means it's better to have the car dealership do it because if you install the ignition in your driveway like we did. The car will have to be towed to the dealership. In our case was many miles away. Thankfully we had insurance that covered the towing. Kia than charges over $150 to sync the keys so you can drive your car. Any other or older car would allow you drive to the nearest auto parts store, buy the new ignition, install it as it's really easy and you can start it immediately and no need to sync. Many cars have options that allow you sync keys yourself. Like a Honda 2003. This is anti-consumer at its best. It is not OK regardless if it means oh its more secure. Bullshit there are ways around it.
Louis is correct that massive amounts of money are likely to be necessary to fight these battles.
Last November we had a right to repair initiative petition on the ballot here in Massachusetts. (Initiative petition is a process that allows laws to be passed by a direct vote of the populace rather than by the legislature.) The law in question only addresses automobile repair, and only a fairly narrow right at that: access to wireless telematics data that is related to repairs.
There is already a standard for a wired port, OBD, to access that data... and right to that data was established by a previous law here in MA that became the model for laws passed in many other states. But car manufacturers are now moving to wireless data instead and the law did not cover that. The long term concern is that auto makers would remove the wired port or limit the data available through it to a bare minimum, while moving things to wireless access instead to circumvent the law.
Nearly 25 million dollars were spent on each side of the argument. The pro-repair side was mostly funded by car parts companies (AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, etc), with a smaller amount coming from independent repair shops. The anti-repair site was mostly funded by car manufacturers; they ran a series of fear-mongering ads that claimed that "anybody would have access to your data" including things like location tracking. (The law does not require access to that information, only what is needed to repair cars.)
So, 25 million dollars to pass ONE law in ONE state. A law that only addresses a single aspect of right to auto repair. (Millions were also spent to get the previous law mandating access to the wired ports.) And one that doesn't address the right to repair anything other than cars and light trucks -- no phones, tablets, computers, appliances, heavy trucks, farm equipment, or anything else. Winning the war for right to repair is likely to cost BILLIONS by the time it's over unless courts get involved and rule for a general right to repair. And most of the other battlegrounds don't have an industry with a few large players that can finance an expensive campaign, as the car parts companies did here. It's not hard to understand why Rossman is finding it a daunting task.
The mistake Louis makes is assuming that us lawmakers represent their constituents.
That’s why he’s pushing for a straight to ballot rollout for right to repair
Do another repair video with Louis R
The bird flying in front of Luke was hilarious.
Can't believe people in the chat were defending corporations taking advantage of them. They don't care about you and won't fight for you, stop fighting for them
Good brands should start advertising their products as user repair/upgrade friendly with easy to replace parts and manuals. They'd likely be able to charge a considerable premium.
None of the big brands want to do that though. They see repairs as an additional revenue stream they need to protect, they're all on the same page.
Louis is an awesome human being who truly cares about people. Many of his non technology videos are top notch. Seriously legit. Goes beyond his right to repair videos.
Right when you win the right to access the hardware you need to do the repairs there will be software changes to make you unable to use your device without some sort of validation from the company.
I used to repair a lot of stuff for people who just could not afford new devices, in those times I could just exchange a resistor, capacitor or Diode and they would be off with like 10-20€, now everything is incorporated in a singlechip or multiple single chips, which are not soldered anymore but glued, meaning that I needed to get hotter to desolder that stuff and usually destroy the mainboard by doing so, this way I got forced to replace the whole mainboard making it cost like just under the price of a new one, so I gave up on fixing stuff, because people looked at me like I was the money hog, like I was the bad guy, so I told them the truth, I can't fix it without changing the whole device practically (the rest is just a case and the buttons and maybe a battery), it still breaks my heart thinking back at that old couple who couldn't afford a new VCR and I could not fix it at a reasonable price, it broke their hearts not being able to watch their grandchildren's videos anymore. It sucked so I gave up where Louis is still fighting the good fight, I miss those days, the days where I was the smart guy fixing all the stuff for a few bucks, being respected ad befriended, greed has made that history and that is a sad thing
I remember as a child my dad told me "If a tank breaks down on the battlefield every country in the world will repair it and get it back into action, America sends another tank."
..... and another and another and another..... ask the Nazis
Quite the poor analogy.
@@MadKlauss yup, what won? thats right mass production... so basically a counter argument
@@MadKlauss If phones were all 10 bucks it would be much less of an issue.
Would be nice if the right to repair talking points gets simplified for everyday folks, and we can get the tech tubers to all release a video about it at the same time, on their main channel!
That sort of traction will get the "mainstream media" talking about it, and get the issue trending for awhile.
Another thing is some kind of place to send individual earbuds for reuse/parts/whatever i have like 8 raycon single earbuds sitting on my windowsill, if there was a way to sync a couple of them to each other i wouldnt have had to buy new sets...
Friend of mine was having brake issues on his Tesla model 3, turns out the dealers don't carry parts. We had to ship the car over to the main factory for brake replacement, which then took about 4 months in which they didn't even bother to give him a rental car.
My Motorola Moto E6 Play outlasts my Sister's iPhone 11 Pro, yet mine is both an old model, AND a budget phone that cost me £65 brand new lmao.
Lmao
When was your last OS update?
My sister has burned through multiple phones in the time that I've been using my Note II and it still works fine, lol. There's even companies that still make batteries for it, which is amazing.
Exactly
This is what I was telling my friend why buying airpods is waste of money as there are better wired and wireless neckband style options
I won't lie even as an audiophile the convenience of TWS earphones made me buy them. But that being said I still didn't buy Airpods, I bought the galaxy buds+ they are actually repairable.
Audiophile? How's the Bluetooth compression and poor quality drivers for you? : D
@@IvoStunga Good enough for the commutes, very convenient to use as well. The sound of cars and everything doesn't make for a good sound on anything really.
At home I usually use a DT880 or AKG K712 with a fiio K3. Not the best stuff but it's good enough for me. I've been using the Philips SHP9500 recently too for gaming they're pretty good.
As a tech like Louis ( and I follow his channel a well ), I have been repairing consumer electronics since 1986 and have seen some very sneaky things companies do to keep you paying them for repairs or new equipment. To toss a $600 device away for a $6 part ( and I have had to do it ) just creates so much e-waste. If you stop buying from these companies, they will change their tune to get you back eventually. A big part of our problem is the disposable economy we have that drives this issue, cheaper to replace than fix.
People need to speak with their wallets.
Have you covered France's repairability index legistlation? Interesting stuff.
I disagree with the sharing software, if you own the product you own everything about it. Software should be open source.
Their software (for repair) should be available or at least the commands/info to make software to carry out repairs. Right to repair is worthless if you cant activate repair parts. I see it everyday as a motor vehicle technician.
Wow glad you called out the comment in the chat at 12:08. Think of it like a car. You might not know how to fix it, but you should be able to fix it if want to or know how. Alternatively you should be able to take it to someone local who knows how to do the repair.
4:33 Somebody needs to sample that.
Mine only last a little under two hours now, I checked the repair cost on Apple and for the case and headphones it’s £185 so I’m basically better off buying new ones for £159
Get yourself a fiio btr5 or one of their dongle dacs alongside some moondrop arias and you'll be set for audio for years to come.
Sry for my comment coming off so aggressively, but why TF do you still support such a company ?, It seems like partial insanity, apple has found a way to essentially re-leese theyre products to customers instead of selling them
Damn Luke has the most commanding mustache in the room maybe even in the entirity of Canada rn like bruhhhhhh!
Mediocre.
interestingly enough I have MPOW M30 from many years back and they still hold up for 5-6hrs (as advertised) but they are a bit more bulky than apple things
It’s the same with mechanics too. They’re being replaced by the manufacturer. For example, transmission pans use to be replaceable and had a transmission fluid stick so you could refill it yourself. Now it’s completely sealed off. Also, some car companies have designed very expensive (10k+) diagnostic specialised tools making impossible for most third party mechanics to fix. Hope this helps.
That’s way I buy late 1990s chain driven cars (Nissan Pulsar). You can still fix every part yourself.