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  • One more #TBCClassic video on the books. This time.. the hunter rotation.
    This video was requested by a lot of viewers so.. here it is. It's a confusing topic, but I tried my best. Hope it makes sense.
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    0:00 Intro and Important Info
    1:18 Shots, Haste and the GCD
    3:40 The Rotations | 1:1, French and Fast Sheeeeit
    8:16 Making this Make Sense
    11:22 Putting it All Together | The Flow of Combat
    13:07 Survival Considerations
    14:23 Minor Gains That Aren't Worth it
    15:55 A Nice WA for Attack Speed
    17:00 Outro and Ouportant Info
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Комментарии • 256

  • @sacredizzle
    @sacredizzle 2 года назад

    That was by far the best description and I’ve looked at a bunch. Going through each proc and when they proc together. Helped a lot. Thanks

  • @oliverschneider7489
    @oliverschneider7489 3 года назад +1

    Great Video. Really pleased to see someone put into words the same things i have been thinking and trying to explain to my guildies.

    • @fabztau1996
      @fabztau1996 3 года назад

      It seems complicated but it's actually kinda simple when you get your head round it. It's basically, when you've got loads of haste buffs, do 1:2, when you have some, do 1:1, and when you have none, do 5:5:1:1

  • @MophMoph
    @MophMoph 2 года назад

    Appreciate the video! Great deep dive and highly engaging. Looking forward to your macro and mods video!

  • @lolroflstomp
    @lolroflstomp 3 года назад +1

    This stuff is why I loved hunter in TBC so much. I played survival back in the day, and without really knowing much about shot rotations, I eventually ended up naturally on a 5:5:1:1, probably because It flows perfectly without the 20% attack speed from BM, but anyway, now playing this again it just felt pretty natural again. This is such an important part of the whole hunter class. Awesome video, man.

  • @nicointhol4105
    @nicointhol4105 3 года назад +3

    Loving your content man💚
    Also caught myself saying "shiiiiit" a couple of times, hilarious😂 10/10

  • @TLoZfan
    @TLoZfan 3 года назад

    This really helped me better understand things dude, thank you.

  • @clubpenguincheate100
    @clubpenguincheate100 3 года назад +2

    Loved the video, hoping for a melee weaving guide some day

  • @marsumane
    @marsumane 3 года назад

    MAN I gotta watch this one a second time. So much info

  • @GreedeeVids
    @GreedeeVids 3 года назад

    Fantastic video as always sir!

  • @elgarrdobbi3700
    @elgarrdobbi3700 3 года назад

    Ok, this is the shiit we been waiting for, understand much more now. And only question I have to ask, is why didn’t you make this sooner. It’s like a math problem has finally been explain so I can understand it. GG thanks.

  • @snattlerake8337
    @snattlerake8337 3 года назад

    HWHWWWHELCOME, I love your commentary it’s brilliant. Great channel man entertaining and knowledgeable.

  • @shittybuttrue2819
    @shittybuttrue2819 3 года назад +5

    I've been doing pretty good dps without thinking about this stuff. Using this maybe I can actually parse well, so thanks.

    • @boredcharles
      @boredcharles 2 года назад

      Pretty much, I parse 99's not giving a crap about it, just spam steady and let the auto go off right after. When I try not to clip, I do much worse. As much as clipping an auto might suck, if your waiting a half a second for an auto to go off, your "clipping" a steady shot you could have been casting too. If I can perfect it that'd be great.

  • @Fishballs
    @Fishballs 3 года назад +3

    Literally best video on YT since tbc launched!! Keep this shit up, we need more!!

  • @Misslullu
    @Misslullu 2 года назад

    Aaaamazing! Thank you!

  • @Riscs
    @Riscs 2 года назад +2

    like a wise man once said "Go with the flow and be one with your bow" - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    credits to Remus for this absolute beast of a comment

  • @Brotherlee546
    @Brotherlee546 2 года назад

    Love your vids bro. Just returned to wow tbc levelling a hunter, this helps
    A lot for what to look for in the future. Thanks bro and all that good how do you say it? “ All that goood shit!!”

  • @Krolus2009
    @Krolus2009 3 года назад +11

    Am I blind I cant find the weak aura :(

  • @jeffro512
    @jeffro512 3 года назад

    Good stuff, thanks! Did the Survival deep dive video make it out yet?

  • @rayzook
    @rayzook 3 года назад

    thanks for all you do with these guides. Any idea as to what causes my hunters mark to only last a minute instead of 2 mins?

  • @Merteroll138
    @Merteroll138 3 года назад +4

    Great video! I had one question though. Do you have weak auras available to help track bugs and let hunters know when to switch up rotations?

    • @mahkah273
      @mahkah273 3 года назад

      A weak aura would be very appreciated

  • @2Siders
    @2Siders 3 года назад +1

    Gordon Spirit: _”…and I took that personally!”_

  • @JuDo-013
    @JuDo-013 2 года назад

    Nice vid, im using arcane shot instead of steady shot atm. Yes im a noob, so im gonna swap immediately. Also, what addon are you using for the cast time bar? Looks pretty sweet

  • @tomhendriks8304
    @tomhendriks8304 2 года назад

    Hey mate, got a question. if i look at dps in a dps meter. and i see they have done 100 steady shots and 70 auto shots, that means they have been clipping right (as u can never have more steady shots than auto shots in any rotation)?

  • @johnwood6750
    @johnwood6750 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for this - I bet that Ogre in DM really hates you.

  • @oshaghenesy
    @oshaghenesy 3 года назад +1

    This video was fucking awesome. Hunter Jesus is very happy with your efforts

  • @talukdar007
    @talukdar007 3 года назад

    Thanks man ✌

  • @Rev0UK1
    @Rev0UK1 3 года назад +1

    can do 5:6:1:1 with just AoTH proc if wanting to do something other than 1:1 / on shorter fights too with 0 mana issues

  • @dethjingle3277
    @dethjingle3277 3 года назад +16

    Cool Dang we got a in depth hunter rotation guide

  • @willhell492
    @willhell492 3 года назад

    DAAM, TOO GOOD. CAN YOU POST THE WEAK AURA YOU USE IN THE VIDEO THAT LOOKS LIKE CLASSIC CAST BAR

  • @PastramiStaven
    @PastramiStaven 3 года назад

    This some good shit. I knew my first rotation wasn't off off as I also used arance shot.
    What that addon that shows the speed the red bar that moves, I need to get. Also when are you doing the addon video cuz it will help a lot bro.. .:)

  • @tmon3y777
    @tmon3y777 3 года назад +1

    Auto, Steady, Auto, Steady, Sometimes Mutli but sometimes not. Got it!

  • @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan
    @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan 2 года назад

    Pretty cool video.
    I'm thinking about trying melee weaving. Doing a complex rotation + melee weaving is not a thing, right? Or is it? :D
    What does more dmg thoug? Complex rotation adapted to the ranged attack speed or melee weaving?
    ....ahh hunter, which I rolled lock :D
    thx

  • @wahrd9299
    @wahrd9299 2 года назад

    Should we ever use mana pots on encounters? Or just haste pot only? Switch to viper when we need mana?

  • @nickjohnson9501
    @nickjohnson9501 3 года назад +23

    This is some good sheeeeeeeeeeit.

    • @harrythomas3209
      @harrythomas3209 3 года назад

      tryna make me a scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit

  • @johnheller2311
    @johnheller2311 2 года назад

    At what point in the swing timer do you push the steady shot button. how do i bring up the details streamer window too so that I can confirm what shots are landing

  • @Astronic
    @Astronic 3 года назад +1

    What addon do you use for auto shots?

  • @NeonRapture
    @NeonRapture 3 года назад +1

    Unfortunately 6 Lusts isn't a very realistic advantage to have for every hunter, but the information on the different rotations was very well thought out, good video.

  • @wesleyrobinson4532
    @wesleyrobinson4532 2 года назад

    I sneak in the 5:9:1:1 occasionally. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too bad.

  • @mikkelschou909
    @mikkelschou909 3 года назад

    So. The SS macro thats currently out there, that Always fire a AUto before SS actually works up until 3 hastebuffs? So you can basically spam that macro when you are in between French and 1:2

  • @trevorroberson5814
    @trevorroberson5814 3 года назад +10

    And people say hunter rotation is easy. Great breakdown Boi!

    • @maxcormier7821
      @maxcormier7821 3 года назад +1

      it is easy to understand, just hard to execute if you decide to go for the more ''intensive'' rotations

  • @andrewmurphy2520
    @andrewmurphy2520 2 года назад

    Hi there! Where do you get your Details! Streamer Action Tracker window? I've searched everywhere and can't find Details! Streamer or Action Tracker in addons lists

  • @TheTsironiGR
    @TheTsironiGR 3 года назад

    You got my french button buudy!

  • @Sleepycatsss
    @Sleepycatsss 3 года назад

    TBC HYPE

  • @elmuerko
    @elmuerko 3 года назад +1

    Am I blind, I don't see the link in the description and I can't find it on Wago :(

  • @bigdaddyd6669
    @bigdaddyd6669 3 года назад

    How is your quiver showing at 3:14. There is option to toggle it on and off?

  • @litbeavis
    @litbeavis 2 года назад

    Can you list what addon you are using for the shot bar?

  • @lcusio
    @lcusio 2 года назад

    any idea what swing timer he's using? tried looking for it. (Not the attack speed)

  • @eddierofl
    @eddierofl 3 года назад

    Based GarandThumb reference

  • @caicai.angola
    @caicai.angola Год назад

    hey nice vid, but first of all, what's the name of the addon that shows the timer of auto attacks? plzz

  • @dirtymike7290
    @dirtymike7290 3 года назад

    Standing ovation

  • @bahaguiguigui2312
    @bahaguiguigui2312 2 года назад

    hello, why do you always cast 3 steady betwen multi and arcane shot. only 2 for 5/5/1/1 no ?

  • @imteamcaptain
    @imteamcaptain 3 года назад

    When you have 1.3 attack speed or below and are supposed to shift to 1:2 are you just spamming steady shot and assuming GCD will prevent you from clipping? Or are you actually supposed to be timing it to ensure you steady right after the second auto goes off?

    • @freestylalol
      @freestylalol 3 года назад

      Look up Spell Queueing. to much to explain.

  • @boogaethje
    @boogaethje 3 года назад

    Garrand Thimb approves of SV. 🤗

  • @jameskennedy4989
    @jameskennedy4989 3 года назад

    Cool video man!! I just hit 70 about a week in ahalf stressing out on preraid bis how long did is take you to get 4 piece beastlord? I just got the shoulder and helm. Can you give any kind wordsfor the guys striving to get the 4 piece I’ve just been out rolled and lost rolls to enhance shamans. Is it even worth it to get exalted with the consortium for the dagger?

    • @lfgubrs
      @lfgubrs 3 года назад +1

      If shamans roll for beast lord with a hunter in the party they should be banned from the game and never get to play again.

    • @jameskennedy4989
      @jameskennedy4989 3 года назад

      @@lfgubrs ya it sucks but it happen with the legs

  • @dwarfwithattitude1723
    @dwarfwithattitude1723 3 года назад +1

    Damn! Might actually put arcane shot back on my bars 😂

  • @bigdaddyd6669
    @bigdaddyd6669 3 года назад

    Anyone have the link to the details stream action tracker plugin?

  • @maldlions5313
    @maldlions5313 3 года назад

    Just wondering as a begginer what is that Cast bar addon..

  • @esoterikk1
    @esoterikk1 3 года назад

    Do you press steady when the new swing time starts or do you press it during the red arming time on the swing timer?

    • @jacksun9873
      @jacksun9873 3 года назад

      You can press steady when the bow swing timer hits the red section.

  • @toemaytoez2913
    @toemaytoez2913 2 года назад

    good shiiiet!

  • @fireonmytarget8937
    @fireonmytarget8937 2 года назад

    I don't play TBC, but this content is interesting anyways. Comments for the algorithm :)

  • @christophernewlin5058
    @christophernewlin5058 3 года назад +1

    Where is the link to the weak aura? Edit: found it!

  • @mohammedhussain2093
    @mohammedhussain2093 3 года назад

    Fucking needed this ❤️

  • @adventuresofslippybainer5991
    @adventuresofslippybainer5991 3 года назад +6

    where is the link to the Weakaura for attackspeed? i can't seem to locate

  • @beauramone6294
    @beauramone6294 3 года назад +1

    So, just to be clear, no serpent sting right? I never see anyone talk about it - is it purely just too much mana cost for not enough effectiveness? Or does it just mess up the rotation so badly that it's not feasible?

    • @AsianClarkKent.
      @AsianClarkKent. 3 года назад +1

      Costs way too much mana. Makes targets un ccable. Only used for pvp to keep rogues outta stealth imo.

    • @Tetter.
      @Tetter. 3 года назад

      @@AsianClarkKent. thanks for the info, I was also curious about this!

  • @javensme1
    @javensme1 3 года назад

    Where's the link for the attack speed WA?

  • @simplehillbilly5852
    @simplehillbilly5852 3 года назад +1

    All hail hunter baby Jesus

  • @supersyke9969
    @supersyke9969 3 года назад

    Slaymazing

  • @danielleroubal8283
    @danielleroubal8283 3 года назад

    What is that auto shot timer add on??

  • @nicocin941
    @nicocin941 3 года назад +1

    WSSR is bis for dwarf btw

  • @Ricardo8388
    @Ricardo8388 2 года назад

    Im using Don Santos' Famous Hunting Rifle and i do more damage than my guildie who has full bis and uses kara bow and does 1 to 1 with multishot. Im always using arcane shot on cd. It feels so much smoother. Eslecially at high attackspeeds. My average js about 1.2 k dps using cheap gems and not optimal enchants no expensive scope. Other hunters in my raid have all this and still blow em away with arcane shot in my rotation.

  • @Krocodile
    @Krocodile 3 года назад

    hey biggedboy, a weapon with 2,20 attack speed is better then one with 2,90?

    • @Krocodile
      @Krocodile 3 года назад

      the dps is the same

  • @anevian3137
    @anevian3137 3 года назад

    This weak aura also shows what aspect you are using right in the middle of the screen and I can't figure out how to disable it or at least move it elsewhere. I'm also not very good with weak auras in general. Anyone know how to disable/move it?

    • @gamersrevenge6528
      @gamersrevenge6528 3 года назад

      Try clicking down on your middle scroll button on your mouse and try to move it. Or disable it by typing /wa and look for it and disable it

  • @countryboygsp1222
    @countryboygsp1222 3 года назад +1

    That's great for a rotation but what about when things are either skipping between speeds and you're not including kill command in any of this? Or am I not following this property

    • @Paxsina
      @Paxsina 3 года назад

      I want to know the answer to this question too, i seem to sometimes get a delay on that next Steady after Multi when there is a kill command attached to it.

  • @morikeu2351
    @morikeu2351 2 года назад

    As a hunter do i need pet on raids?

  • @JC-fo7os
    @JC-fo7os 3 года назад

    How do you keep track of when to use arcane during the french?

    • @aaronunterseher1627
      @aaronunterseher1627 3 года назад +1

      It's relative to the cd...
      Basically by the time they come back up you use them...
      1:1
      Multi
      1:1
      1:1
      Now half the cd for multi shot is done so...
      Arcane shot
      1:1
      1:1
      At this point your cd are gonna back up at roughly the same time as it appears in the rotation... Soo just repeat

  • @carnage3079
    @carnage3079 3 года назад

    wait so whats the difference betweet 1:1 and french if they both involve weaving a multi after a steady?

    • @tannerwilkins4178
      @tannerwilkins4178 3 года назад

      1:1 you completely replace a steady with multi. French you weave the multi in after the steady

  • @lfgubrs
    @lfgubrs 3 года назад +1

    At 5:15 you do 3x steady shots with arcane right after the third and not 2x steady as you say in the explanation. I'm confused.

    • @krowaswieta7944
      @krowaswieta7944 2 года назад

      The point is to throw insta shot each time you have time to do it without overcliping. So you do
      steady + auto -> steady + auto + insta shot -> steady + auto -> steady + auto + insta shot and so on
      because each second rotation of 'auto+ steady' you have time to fit gcd between another steady + auto.

  • @miqbalmaulana2914
    @miqbalmaulana2914 2 года назад

    Halo sir, can you help me, how to make repeatable macro

  • @mikebeasley4619
    @mikebeasley4619 2 года назад

    I also obtained a DST, Hell yah bruther!!! ahaha that little jib made me giggle. but with RF, Lust, Hawk and DST procing all together. i can shoot as fast a 0.9 a sec ooooo boy. so at that point do i just ride autos people say trying to squeeze in steadys at that point is just a dps loss.

    • @kimbo4850
      @kimbo4850 2 года назад

      It shouldnt be, since haste still affects steady shot, so to max the dps you should still steady and multi

  • @edwardtherhea6818
    @edwardtherhea6818 3 года назад

    How can you sim your stuff in tbc? I'm really torn on a peace and can't figure out which one is better.

    • @aussierule
      @aussierule 3 года назад

      Pawn is the addon that displays upgrades or downgrades in terms of percentage based on your current spec and stat weights.

    • @Bigbobbedboi
      @Bigbobbedboi  3 года назад

      There's a few sims out there now and one of them is really easy to use!
      I think someone got back to you on stream with the link to it, if not, let me know !

  • @mikex4776
    @mikex4776 2 года назад

    Yo mate. Can you upload your swingtimer somewhere? I see that it's the old update that I prefer most. The new one sucks imo.

  • @Sevisija
    @Sevisija 3 года назад

    Can we get a link to that WA? :)

  • @albinotangerine5556
    @albinotangerine5556 3 года назад +2

    Cool Dang

  • @SwimmyFish
    @SwimmyFish 2 года назад

    How do you not run out of mana?

  • @OftenAlwaysFresh
    @OftenAlwaysFresh 3 года назад

    How are you weaving in KC with all this? Is it macro'd to your steadyshot or something?

    • @davidt5194
      @davidt5194 3 года назад

      I'd recommend macroing Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, and Multi-Shot with a KC line before the shot cast. If you want to optimise, it's also a good idea to have a separate keybind as well.
      Be wary that sometimes you'll have to hit your steady macro twice to cast KC and the shot itself, I find this to be one of the most common things to scuff my rotation (i.e. I only press once and delay or miss next steady). I've heard that doing KC purely manually, without being macro'd with other shots, can resolve this - but yet to test myself.

    • @macalistaar
      @macalistaar 3 года назад

      KC is off GCD so I got SS on 1 and KC on 2, multi on 3, before SS is casted I hold 2 release after cast then press 1 again. But honestly once you have enough crit KC is basically cast on CD it might be more efficient to macro it into everything once you reach that point

  • @Forty2de
    @Forty2de 3 года назад

    You're doing the Lord's work. Praise Hunter Jesus, may he gieb me DST tonight or riot

  • @JonasMondrup
    @JonasMondrup 3 года назад

    Using wolf slayer was horrible i ended up at 0,7 often in raids and was auto twice or even three times to 1 steady. I farmed SV HC and got the bow with less dam about slower speed 3.0, and got my first 99s that one is super nice and pulls ahead in DPS compared to wolf slayer gun.

  • @bendover8751
    @bendover8751 3 года назад +1

    Can u do a hunter guide to khara gear and other raid gear. I don’t know what to roll on.

  • @bowbepoggin8144
    @bowbepoggin8144 3 года назад

    Awesome video brother! I feel like I’m doing exactly as you say and still lacking in dps and the parses are looking horrible :/ 1:1 with a multi on CD doesn’t seem to do much damage and feels slow. French seems a little better but running out of mana real quick. I feel like I’m missing something but I have no idea what I’m not doing or doing wrongs. Full bis hunter with sunfury + dst and everything else

    • @TheVertical92
      @TheVertical92 2 года назад

      yeah i have the same problem.
      I just had a hunter in my grp with shitty gear (he had a 2,1k GS and mine is ~2,5k) that outperformed me.
      Me: 1700 AtkPower and 22% crit. The other Hunter: 1200 AtkPower and 15% crit. He said his rota is 1:1 SS - AS like mine.
      I looked into Details and saw that he had more autoshots than steadyshots (sometimes 20% more AS than SS) and i had more SS than AS. His bow speed was 2.8 mine is 3.0.
      But everyone is saying that slower bows are better, so i dont get why my dmg stinks compared to a low equiped hunter.

    • @2Minihats
      @2Minihats 2 года назад

      @@TheVertical92 what quiver do you have? He might have a 15% one

    • @TheVertical92
      @TheVertical92 2 года назад

      @@2Minihats i also have 15%

    • @2Minihats
      @2Minihats 2 года назад

      @@TheVertical92 you might be cutting off your auto shot more than you know? I’m not sure that’s a big gap. You’re BM spec with a ravaged correct? And you’re rotating multi shot in?

    • @2Minihats
      @2Minihats 2 года назад

      Ravager**

  • @WhoIsThatDoge
    @WhoIsThatDoge 3 года назад +1

    What swing timer is that? Can’t find any good ones

    • @Aajax0
      @Aajax0 3 года назад

      I would love to know too!

    • @rickwright7282
      @rickwright7282 3 года назад

      Me three

    • @anevian3137
      @anevian3137 3 года назад

      WeaponSwingTimer - All one word

  • @llollercoaster
    @llollercoaster 3 года назад

    what're the addons?

  • @gnarlygt420z
    @gnarlygt420z 3 года назад

    Love your shiiiiit

  • @cptjimmy15
    @cptjimmy15 3 года назад

    You are Hunter Jesus

  • @sinside318
    @sinside318 3 года назад

    why not keep MS and AS on cooldown as much as possible without clipping? since SS does less dmg than MS and AS..? mana efficiency?

    • @Krelian89
      @Krelian89 2 года назад

      That's the rotation i use on my hunter but only on short fights (1~3 minutes) on longer fights is better to MS over AS for mana.

  • @bla4547
    @bla4547 3 года назад

    Is it worth it to res pet in long fights, for example gruul?

    • @skum4142
      @skum4142 3 года назад

      Yes

    • @user-gj7sn2ur9y
      @user-gj7sn2ur9y 3 года назад

      Really depends on the amount of hp left of the boss, if you like below 50% than it’s not most of the time, simply because it takes 6 seconds to ress and huge amount of mana

  • @loganmcmahon7582
    @loganmcmahon7582 Год назад

    Pretty sure the rotation in TBC needs to weave in Raptor strike on most encounters at the very least, and melee swing is also worth it.

  • @Fwobbed
    @Fwobbed 3 года назад +3

    I don't see the WA link?

  • @jasontremblay5213
    @jasontremblay5213 3 года назад

    where do you find the ravager pet and a what lvl?

    • @johnwhite788
      @johnwhite788 3 года назад +1

      Lvl 61 in Hellfire. You will need to tame a 63 in Blade's Edge to get max rank gore. Don't forget to capture a pet to learn max rank bite too!

  • @arthurhyatt4664
    @arthurhyatt4664 Год назад

    Wheres the Kill Command come in?

  • @mlodyme3675
    @mlodyme3675 2 года назад

    what happens if you ignore all that and just keep casting steady ?

    • @ShortsAndSweater
      @ShortsAndSweater 2 года назад

      Clipping auto shot by casting over and over again will kill your dps. Get a swing timer it will help alot