What is happening to Ding Liren??
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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I think him being the classical chess world champion, with Magnus’ shadow looming large over him and all the media attention and community opinions, he’s struggling to deal with all of that. Not everyone is able to deal with all that pressure and negativity, I just hope that he finds a way and gets back to playing chess at the highest level.
even magnus gets criticised by haters when he loses a single game, it must have been so much worse for ding.
Magnus is the greatest chess player but he has a nasty manipulative personality, he definitely expected people would still crown him as the WC despite all that and this would put a lot of pressure on the winner of the WCC, these things are just mind games to him.
Honestly the current Ding is unlikely to be able to defend the world championship title.... As Magnus has said... The championship match takes a lot more out of people than you realize... That ding hasn't recovered from it is proof of that.
Hopefully he can fully recover and return to form though
@@feelcollins4358I don’t see what Magnus gains by trying to play mind games with Ding?
I mean, he probably correctly to assumed he could have all the financial and personal benefits of his status as the GOAT without the pressure and exhaustion of defending his world title which is maybe a bit unfair. But I don’t see any reason for him to want to manipulate other players by giving up his title?
@@lukebbuff His mind games is not on ding personally but to the chess world, basically "yeah he's the champ but y'all know deep down I'm the best" Which he isn't wrong but he made it so no one else could get the chance to challenge that narrative by not participating in the WCC so the pressure is directed at the winner in the end, he will be known as one of the weaker WC in history because he didn't "face the best"
Nepo got frustration and Ding got depression. The show goes on.
😂😂😂😂
i hope Ding bounces back from whatever he is going through ... Wishing him all the Luck :)
People criticizing Ding and calling him weakest world champion doesn't even realize how gifted a chess player he is. Even with all his health issues and mental problems he managed to clench the title against Nepo who himself is one of the best in the world. I really wish he gets rid of his issues and once again gives the world a glimpse of prime Ding whom even Magnus used to consider one of the best.
Will be rooting for Ding all the way. But I really fear that perhaps the stress of the championship gave Ding something akin to PTSD.
🤣 yea the evil knight chess pieces are sooooo traumatic that it triggers a disorder. I really can’t stand this new age“ everyone has a disorder.” He said he was depressed, take him at his word.
@@alexj835i mean I agree, everyone nowadays tries to label themselves with some mental illness to excuse their shortcomings... But Depression is just as much of a mental disorder as PTSD
Nepo really wanted the crown
he cursed him😂
Ding is too OP for nepo
@@danielbattle7620 well Nepo won the candidates twice, ding only won because of magnus stepping away. Honestly i hope Ding defends his title.
Well, should've played better lol.
Then he should play better.
Dude, this guy's documentaries are incredible
You don't watch many documentaries do you
@@jaylenlenear3944 not on chess, can u show me some? I mean his chess documentaries specifically
@@jaylenlenear3944 not about chess. Can u suggest me some other ones?
“Heavy is the head that wears the crown”
Woah
King of the legion dialogue
At least Ding played chess after winning the title- unlike Bobby Fischer.
Bobby Fischer is the greatest and most dominant player oat
@@Mihailo0 + no one was close to him
@@Mihailo0 Kasparov was also dominant, and he didn’t leave chess for 20 years
@@Mihailo0 Calling Fischer "dominant" is pathetic
@@Artimonsta i was dominant w your mom last night tho kid 😂
Ding chilling
💀
🤣
He’s not bro needs to take a break
Definitely the the most wholesome and human world champion of all time that's for sure
Bro Ding can't handle the title for one year made 10 years of Magnus dominance even more impressive
He’s struggling with mental issues. No need to turn his depression/mental health into another way to lick Magnus.
Shut up
Bro it's cringe his preparation got leaked he played without preparation and still came out on top, not an easy feat
and ding has mental issues, it’s not fair to compare.
I love your videos, the one about Ding’s entire ride to the top was very good! You could make some insanely good documentaries!
Watching that Candidates cycle and the world championship I couldn't help but cheer for him.
His bromance with Rapport, his family supporting him, his honesty when speaking, even if he loses the title, I want to see him go back to high level chess
I love Ding, no one will ever change that❤
Ding is like Australia in cricket. He'll be about alright in normal games without muxh weightage but pull out an absolute comeback performance in the title match. Imagine him not winning much the entire year but keeps on retaining the championship each year by outclassing opponents when it matters most. Would be so hilarious.
You know what crazy ding a super GM one of the best players in the world. He might go on to win 5 world title and lose so many tournaments in between but might (bad luck ) have a good showing when defending his title and go on a decade as world championship
There’s a good chance he won’t even try to defend his title next candidates
What's crazy is your punctuation.
@@blizyon30fps86says who?
@@gusleffers9265 says his mental state
@@blizyon30fps86 that’s your prediction. He says he will defend it. I trust his word lol. I just mean you don’t have much grounds to assume it’s a ‘good chance’, you don’t know him.
This guy has like 5 videos and is still getting better with each one. Keep it up!
The humble Goat.
If only he knew the cow opening…
I believe that prime Ding can definitely take an inexperienced Gukesh, he took down Nepo after all and I rate Nepo higher than Gukesh in classical. Skill can only do so much when it comes to World Championship pressure, but Ding not being at his best will make the World Championship definitely more competitive.
Also that press clip when he talks about depression was really sad :\
Not more competitive, Gukesh is a clear favourite
I as an Indian will obviously support Gukesh's victory but i truly hope that Ding recovers and gives as tough fight as possible. I dont wanna feel sadder for ding's loss than feel happy for Gukesh's win.
Bounce back Ding, never forget you defied the odds in 2023, thats what champs do!!!
Love you Ding!! ❤I hope you are keeping welll❤
I predict the world championship crown for the next decade wouod be swapping hands like hell , it will be great experience to watch the whole thing
I think he is just tired, that's fine.
If it were just that, he would have slept it off by now.
ding needs resilience and stoicism
its the media's / people's fault calling WC Ding Liren its out of luck that made him into depression
This documentary is great! I've known a bit about Ding but never the full extent of his story and you covered it really well. Congrats!
I really hope that Ding finds help for what ever it is he's going through.
The fact that nepo caruana and hikarus best chance to the crown was snuffed by a teenager is heart breaking
y hate
You got to perform when it matters the most
This is not the real Ding Liren's form I used to support during the 2022 Candidates and 2023 World Chess Championship, he is so solid player that time, he beat Hikaru flawlessly during the 2022 Candidates. I'm so proud of him winning, but after his loss on some of top chess tournaments, I found it worrying for Ding now he currently loss 54 Elo points in classical from his win in world championship. Also Gukesh is being an Assassin this 2024. Hope DIng Liren would come back.
Ding at 85% can beat Gukesh at 100%. The question is will Ding be at 85% form by the time of the match
I completely agree. I really hope Ding is able to bounce back and defend his title.
But the priority, obviously, is that he recovers from his mental and physical problems. Even if he needs another break, as long as it has to be
Well I don't know, Gukesh is rated almost 50 points over Ding right now. That's a crazy gap to make up
@@grottphd9090 Cause Ding is having real Problems, I think he is working hard and everything but is just mentally crushed by something
Every player's 100% is variable and changes at any given time.
Gukesh is unstoppable right now
Won gold for india & gave the all time highest Olympiad match rating ever.
can you make a video on this year's bullet chess championship? :D
Just found out about the checkmate corner. Great videos!
It felt like Ding didn't really want to win the world championship and finally retire but even he wasn't expecting to win. Now he has all this pressure and eyes on him when you can tell he seems to be someone who isn't some aggressive competitor
69%... nice.
I was looking for this comment 😂😂
I think it's really sad that Magnus never defended his title. I think ding was dealt a very horrible deal where if he lost he would have not be champion but by winning he would still be considered second. Very sad
Being second to Magnus isn’t sad at all. I don’t blame Magnus for not defending, that’s his choice and who wanted to watch Magnus toying with Nepo again.
I think it's great that he got the championship. I like ding a lot but I mean just the idea that some people will think he doesn't deserve it because he didn't face Magnus to get it is sad. Like he's clearly put in a lot of work but stupid people will still look down on him which can't be easy for him mentally
@@damian4590 That’s true. Add in his health problems hindering his ability to compete and people forget how formidable he was before the Championship when he was qualifying for the Candidates. I hope he can defend his title, it will be exciting to watch.
what now? Carlson defended the number one spot four times
@@dynamotexan Not everyone is carlsen
Ding and Hans are on opposite sides of the personality spectrum. Maybe they should train together 🤔
I assume Ding's problem is that Magnus willingly gave up the WC title. Everyone still knows Magnus is the best player in the world by a large margin and we remember how good of an ambassador he is for chess and was when he was the WC.
Ding knows he can never reach that level and he knows he is the world champion by name only. That troubles him and is a mental problem. As a world champion he is contantly compared to Magnus in every way and expected to perform, both playing and representing chess, like Magnus does and did as a world champion. Ding knows he can never do that or reach that level and that gets into his nerves.
Everyone knows that it is imposter syndrome.
Ding knows that he isn't the champion. Magnus has played better as there is no pressure anymore.
Best wishes for Ding to defend his title but if he thinks he wont be able to come close to defending his title he must consider withdrawing, it wont mean much either way rather it'll suck to serve World Champion title to Gukesh on a silver platter!
great videos, you fill a niche in chess youtube content that is missing
Thank you!
If you enjoy this type of content I would recommend you check out FlameIsLucky. He's made 2 chess documentaries so far and both of them are very well made.
The bro was gonna retire after the championship qualifiers, did not expect to win it.
Wait is this a reuploade? Did I miss something?
he just need richard raport .
This is more about if Ding wants to be chess chamion again... I highly doiubt it.
We have little disapponted over his performance lately, he is and Indian players are represented asia in chess....come on Ding get ready.
I feel gukesh has a really good chance of defeating a ding not at his highest
Imagine he's playing bad on purpose
Reupload? 😂
bro feel depress for winning the world championship.
A fear of achievement ? Maybe had a lousy childhood and doesn't feel worthy of success
relax, he's just saving strats for when he defends the title 😅
Ding about to defend his title with a sub 2500 rating.
he probably is being force to play
Weird thing to say without any proof
His tiger-mom is all over him
@@thegorn Also makes me wonder if the CPP cares at all about their representation in chess like the Soviets used to. Not saying they'd threaten and force Ding to compete, but if the government (not just the CPP) asks you to do something.. you do it
@@thegorn some people will deny these claims, but I got the same impression
@@BensonOfD Honestly very doubtful. The Chinese government actually really looks down on chess in favour of xiangqi and even banned it in the 70s.
2678 performance level is 9th place out of 14 players? *Wow* So they’re like playing *stockfish*
He should team up with Anish Giri for preparation, then ue won't be depressed anymore 😅😅
@TheCheckmateCorner Can I know what is the misics you use?
Nice video!
Cash moves everything around me
Ding get the money
Dala dala bill yooo
9:00 Gukesh : Nah Id Win
Chess is the hardest game.
Ding is walking very slowly and when he shakes hands you can see it is with a very weak grip. Could it be that Ding is suffering from Parkinson's disease?
No bro wtf
It's probably nervousness.
His demeanors is like that even during his prime. The crown is just too heavy for him.
Have you seen chess players shake hands before? There are even compilations of the weirdest handshakes. Looks pretty normal for a chess player
AIDS
00: 35 Ding looks about 12 , a stiff breeze would blow him over .
He plan to take a sabbath and retire for good after world chess champion , but subconciously, he too focus on the game, he forgot his goals ,as if like once he reached Everest n come down alive, he is liable to hike the K2, signing the death cert, cos only best hiker is obliged to fullfill this goal or be mocked and rejected if it choose not to😂
I rooted for Ding when he went against Nepo, but i sadly believe Gukesh will beat him by a considerable margin
No way
@@eddyirategekanya336 Yes way
Considering the fact that gukesh has become even stronger after candidates.
Burnout... Its a real thing
I'm hoping for his comeback although I m gukesh fan
800's complaining about the world champion not dominating the top 10 like magnus is hilarious
Why did you delete the first time you uploaded the video?
RUclips had some problems with the first one!
@@TheCheckmateCorner ok btw I absolutely loved your video about nepo vs ding i think i watched it like 4 or 5 times now. Can you make a video about hikaru or another world championship?
I think he is too humble for the title of wcc which requires some ego. Hope he could see his real value and doesn't keep sabotaging himself
Gukesh the next world champion ❤🎉
The only person objectively better than ding is Magnus. Everyone claims they are better but lost championship spot to Gukesh. If Ding plays world championship with Gukesh, he’ll win easily!
😂😂ok
@@crbgaming6683 lol they had the chance to prove me wrong in the last candidate and he beat every single one of them and won the championship
@@kaybest9607 whom are you talking about?
World championship will never determine skill. There’s a reason he was so shit during Norway chess
@@blizyon30fps86 no bro it's not right wcc does matter but ding is out of form so he blunderd his games so badly
Donger's "World Champion" title is completely hollow and meaningless after Magnus just gave it away. Not his fault, but meh... never liked the Donger anyway. To hell with him.
Ding is still OP. I’m taking him over alireza any day
Gukesh is the next challenger not alireza
@@NaplesFC pragg is stronger
@@danielbattle7620 Nope Gukesh, arjun & nodirbek are all stronger than pragg.
@@_Infocars bruh you just watched the olympiad. I get it so you think you're smart. Pragg is the future
@@danielbattle7620 I am way smarter than you
Nice
May sakit si doc willy ong
He had no more motivation to play after winning the world title by a small margin. It's a good chance for Gukesh to take the title this year.
is this a ding liren hate channel lol
Ding is the greatest chess player of all time, and is the best chess player in the world... That is why he is WORLD Champion!. Magnus stands no chance against Ding. Ding was even so nice as to help Magnus regain his confidence by allowing him to win in Norway so that Ding could have better competition in the future because Chess has been so boring for him!.. Ding was even going to let Hikaru win too, but got annoyed that Hikaru talks so much, so he had to put him in his place... Ding's 7D Chess is incredible! Clearly the greatest of all time!
Was that a joke ?
Best joke
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+69 sarcastic points
@@_Infocars bless you kind sir!
He's just isn't good (comparatively to other top guys) the only reason he even won world championship is just because mangus didn't wanted to defend his title
6 mins and 24 views, bro fell off..
You fell on dis D.
Sup third
i don't think its worth caring about ding. i've seen this stuff before. once some australian cared about wei yi in a video back in 2014. that's like me caring about ivanchuk. who cares about these nobodies, so much more relevant might be their opening choice but thats the max. differen't story if they earn their relevancy at least
He may have been crowned, but he has never reigned. He is like a puppet king and the real ruler is Magnus and always has been. Ding isn't the best player in the world ... or 2nd .. or 3rd ... or 4th, 5th, or 6th. He has to be the worst world chess champion for a long time.
Ding is really the weakest ever to become a world champion in chess ding simply suck after all. And don’t give ding an excuses from all losses he made. Come on 🤦♂️
And what exactly are your credentials to evaluate him as the weakest world champion, I suppose you’re a 2800-rated GM then?
Saying that somebody who was able to reach the level of becoming a candidate for world champion, and even won the championship, "sucks" is a wild take lmao
@@BensonOfD get off his nuts lol 😂 ding’s nut hugger lol 😂
@@MultiTopgearfan you too get off his nuts lol 😂
he had 100+ game streak without losing, 2800+ rating, he also beat absolutely everybody in classical rapid and blitz he was top 2 many times
Magnus was and still is the strongest and the real champion. He got bored of defending his title, that’s why Ding has the title now
Cursed? Is it 200 BC? Lol.
But Ding Liren walking like a weary man in Goat tournament but he will return like Bruce Lee so he is afraid of facing any one like Hikaru or Carlson
But now he is happy because tournament is in Singapore so by Singapore Chinese chess association but it's not that easy to win Gukesh because Gukesh is not trained by Russian stupid people but a Polish Gentle Man
Hope that he is not a communist.
Ding is fked. He wasnt supposed to win the title. He cant even beat younger colleagues let alone magnus
How is he fked dude is a chess champion.
@@danielbattle7620 1st, he is NOT a world champion. 2nd, you will see.
@@noobmaster006he is the world champion no matter how much you deny it
@@tengu5628 cope hard 🤣🤣 hes the world champion and losing from younger people every where 🤣🤣💀 dude hes the result of magnus's mercy
@@noobmaster006 how am I coping? I'm simply stating that he is the world champion