If anything, ding was extremely unlucky. You have to remember that ding was 100 games undefeated and in his best moment when covid came. He lose his momentum as the only person who was beating magnus and had a possiblity to win the title. Worse than that, by his return to chess his mental health was already declining, as it was evident in his match with ian, and he still won. We were stolen by covid the alternate timeline of a beast ding and Magnus
@@glitch504sans9 Everyone is different. Kasparov walk out and got angry when he lost to a teenager, Teimur Radjabov. Magnus Carlsen is similarly react to Hans Niemann, and then start a bunch of litigation (whether it is justified or not). What I am saying is that these two are confident, and has some cockiness to them (not a bad thing). Heck Magnus walk out of the interview after he lost to Kajackin. Ding sat through interviews where it isn't his main language, while just minutes before he shaking and even frozen every matches. Ding is always vulnerable. Ding is pessimistic. Different people, different problem. Kasparov had the balls to go against Putin while living in Russia. Magnus quit defend his title because he bore of playing against Ian. And here Ding drag himself to the match against Gukesh, while he had a horrendous year. And his chess was completely lacking. I related to Ding a lot. He fight on, despite it could have been a blow out embarrassment for him. I don't think Kasparov or Magnus who are far far ahead of the field feel as vulnerable and walking on knife edge as Ding. And that is when he was mentally better. Than whatever he have going on with his relationship and depression issue. Even anti depressant affect your thinking. You are not as sharp as before. Chemical in general. Like John Nash in a beautiful Mind (though that was drug for schizo), or Alan Turing when he was on chemical castration. I personally had some anti depressant meds before. And I know I wasn't operate at 100%.
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" A combination of events may have led to opportunity, but the preparation and readiness at that time determine success.
Agreed. Saying someone got lucky just means they took advantage of the chances given to them by fate. It very much makes a difference but in a chess board there's no such thing as luck. So he won every match fair and square
He wasn’t just lucky. He beat out a strong field of candidates and then beat Nepo in a best of 12. It wasn’t like a one game fluke it was best out of 12 games and part of that test is a test of focus and endurance as well as skill. Nepo failed on focus and endurance and lost. Yes, he got a slot after someone withdrew but he was rated strongly enough to be the ‘spare’. You don’t get into that position by being complete trash and just ‘lucky’.
I think he was lucky. He should not have made it to the Candidates. But he did because the PRC went full steam for him, organizing those hurried tournaments so that he could qualify. The tournaments did not have the strongest players, as far as I know, but I could be wrong.
@@sid1gen I don't think you need to be lucky to have that. France set a similar but more about boosting-elo event for Firouzja this year, even though it didn't count in the end.
Ding is just too humble mate, he deserves every good thing that's coming to him. To be completely honest, he's the only player ever to have consistently challenge magnus in classical chess over and over again. The lines they go into are so sharp that any mistake or inaccuracy can lead to defeat. Gotta love ding.
Fabiano Caruana did that too, Magnus couldn't get a single win against him in the 2018 world championship... they tied all 12 matches, and the winner had to be decided through rapid tiebreak games... I think he would be a great world champion too
I saw this in my recommended multiple times and finally decided to watch it. I wasn't really invested in last year's championship, but this showed me how crazy it really was. Great video.
he honestly was inches from death and the story of ding liren is just a remarkable tale to be told as he went from potentially having nothing to becoming part of the elite and eventually seen as a pro player aiming for the title of #1 in the world. before the pandemic he was a straight up monster notably taking down carlsen in the 2019 seinquefield cup tiebreaks and was seen as the man to take him down but unfortunately like him and a few others such as caruana and mamedyarov they began to fade from the scene. they weren't being seen or paid much attention to which in dings case was the worst as he had no real support while mamedyarov wasn't quite interested and caruana had all the resources and motivation to get back into the main stream. ding went on a road of hell to make it to the candidates and if anything its the struggle at the end knowing he practically was in tears to know It was finally over when he beat ian, it may not have been perfect or the world champion some would have wanted but if they were open minded and looked back a couple years ago they would see that ding definitely deserved to have the spot more than Ian but was neglected. this all made for the perfect chess underdog story in my opinion and it was honestly heartbreaking to see him finally succeed as all the pain and hours from losses and bad streaks were over. ding has not had the greatest time but for what its worth he is definitely one of my favorite players and notably has made his name in the chess world 100%. i hope more people begin to appreciate him like back in the day as in no doubt he is undisputedly the dark horse we were all happy for to make it and really resembled hope for everyone who works hard to improve so yeah lets hope ding gets back on his feet and wins his 2nd match, thanks for the video and hope everyone appreciates my take on the match and ding as a whole!
@@paresa1601 and ding seems like someone that could be easily pressured into cheating by the ccp in china. The chinese goverment cheats on literally anything to win medals and stuff like that. Their whole society is orientated around the concept of face.
Ding is a legend! He NEVER gave up, he literally pinned himself to fight for a win, thus making himself immortal (as Magnus pointed out in his tweet congratulating Ding). You can accomplish great things if you believe in yourself, even if you're a shy person who feels emotions too deeply. It doesn't mean you can't win. Ding is an example in perseverance. My favorite world champion.
That was a fucking great video, I remember watching the games while working from home and watching gotham’s recaps. Was very fun to relive those days with your added insights
I remember going in not knowing to much about either player, but both grew on me from their interviews there. Watching Ding freeze up in a winning position mid tournament was horrifying and I lost hope for him after, but he turned things around. Pretty insane.
I remember watching this match live last year and it was SO good to watch. Day after day, the big plays, the blunders, the swinging score, the interviews, the recaps, the drama, the comeback, everything. The look on Ian's face, his body language, when he realizes everything's lost, it hits hard. I think everybody can understand fighting for something just to end up short, but to dedicate your life to chess, to spend months preparing for the match, to hold the lead for its entirety, and to see it all crumble in a matter of minutes, it's heartbreaking. Of course, Ian doesn't have anybody else to blame but himself, but it doesn't make it any easier. Meanwhile, Ding's story, before, during and after the match is incredible. The 2024 Candidates is coming up shortly to decide Ding's opponent in the upcoming World Championship. Ding really seems to be struggling to play well lately, so a lot of people are betting that whoever wins the Candidates will become the champion. Well, I don't disagree, but we've seen weirder things happen. After all, Ding was considered one of the best players in the world, perhaps one of the few that could challenge Magnus for the title for a long time before the pandemic. Who knows, maybe Ding will find the strength to play like he used to, or maybe he'll crumble under the pressure, only time will tell. One thing is for sure, 2024 is going to be a very interesting year for chess fans.
If you consider Ian and Ding H2H from the first round of 2022 candidates, in which ding lost to Ian, the only time Ding was in lead was that one final game. I don't care when people question him as champion. But from not being able to play qualifying tournaments for candidates because of restrictions, Sergey DQ, having to played 30 games before the deadline, losing first round of candidates to Ian, winning the last round against Hikaru, being on the backfoot throughout the classical games, and that final win. Its pure cinema man, Ding's perseverance deserves him to be the champion
he qualified only coz hikaru threw the last game at candidates. His win was 30% perseverance but 70% luck everything in world went in his favor the classic nepo choke in the end as well when in the entire championship nepo played perfectly only to choke when it mattered. Nepo literally was the best opponent possible for an out of course question like ding. If ding defends his title this year then he deserves it otherwise he will go down in history as the most unworthy champion ever and no one can deny that.
@@morninglion27 this is like those situations when some random on the internet clowns on world no. 2 for not winning 💀. like bro shut up this guy's better than you by a long shot. by definition he is the world champion, as he won the match. like the commentator said, chess is a game of nerves. nepo's choke is his and his fault only, he let his nerves get to him like many times before. it doesn't matter whether he is "unworthy" or not, what matters is that he worked hard to get here, respect what he's done
@@hichewies i would never understand these meat riders like bruh 1 he is not world number 2 he is number 5 rn and he doesnt deserve to be even top 10 by the level of chess he is diplaying rn also are you a but slow or something? I need to be on his level to judge him lol? I can barely play badminton so i cant say that a school champion isnt as good as the world champion? Your logic is flawed and heavily influenced by your meat riding tendency kindly use this bs logic in a place where ppl are as slow as you
@@qwertifier Ding Liren is the world champion. That is a fact. No one's claiming that Ding is the best in the world or better than Magnus. But he is world champion and Magnus is not anymore.
A degenerated man child, grown by the Chinese dictatorship, who got lucky with the participation, won against the loser of the previous WC .. what a legacy
Dude WTF. I’ve been avoiding this video for a few days in my recommended because I thought it would just be another low quality commentary vid, and I haven’t been playing much chess for about a month. Oh my god. This video is fucking phenomenal and not only has it given me goosebumps but it’s reawakened an excitement for chess I haven’t felt since the beginning. The way you explain certain game deciding moves while the openings themselves are unpopular at the top like the London/colle system reimagines the game for me in a completely new yet comprehensible way. Also, the music, like the long chord strings and stuff, shit is creating a godly atmosphere. Thank you, please make so much more like this. I love ❤
dude trust me he missed a lot of point a lot of analysis in the game (like the game number 14 it wasnt a completly winning after the ding blunder and the continuatious of the game that he show us isnt the right one). it is a beautiful spectacular video i admit, but it really low as propagandistic and click bait as good chess analysis video... like a good showman, hr make a beautiful show without explaining or go into the real detail. (Sorry for my poor English)
Ding (before the pandemic) was an absolute monster and could’ve given Fabiano or Carlsen a run for their money. Now he’s burnt out and his playing style isn’t the same. Recently he drawed Carlsen so maybe the old Ding is coming back.
No really,u watch his interview before the wc? He said if he didnt win the wc=he will retire That' s bad motivation Im 100% sure he didnt have any motivation left after winning wc
I may be a fan of Nepo but man you really did a great job, I enjoyed it and I can say that this is better than a lot of the best documentaries and movies. You have my support.
A better human couldn't have become the world chess champion. Ding just floored us with his preparation, comeback capability, resilience, simple humble existence. Never underestimate Ding
kudos for the amazing video. Ding performs stunningly as the underdog, and i cant wait for him to retain his World Champion Crown later this year and proving that his greatness isn't a fluke.
It's as if god wanted ding to win all along. Like the most unexpected turns happened at the most unexpected times... Karjakin got banned, which nobody expected, leaving one final spot open for ding. Then, FIDE came up with the rating rule, which was the only hope for ding to play the candidates. Then, he didn't even have enough games and the chinese chess federation somehow managed to let ding complete 30 games in 30 days... Then he gets to the candidates, has a bad start, then strikes back in the most impossible way with so many back to back wins. Then he somehow clinches 2nd place. Normally, 2nd place in the candidates means nothing. But for his sake, magnus withdrew and now even guaranteed him the WC challenger spot. Then in the WC he was immensly struggling vs nepo, and somehow nepo missed golden chances, even in the last classical game to clinch the World champion title. Ding was hanging onto the last thread for all this time. Then in the absolutely last game he ends up winning. Like this can't be all a coincidence, someone definitely wanted all that for ding.
2800+ rating was luck????? Winning against in candidate fabi hikaru luck???? 12 match+ rapid in World championship was luck? He is still in top 10 by rating is it luck? Just accept the fact he was capable.
I think magnus realized not so much that his skill was declining but his mental fortitude was declining. He wanted shorter time controls, the stress, the pressure, He knew that stronghold was cracking. I don't know, we will never know for sure but it's worth considering
Excellent video. Takes a synopsis like this to truly appreciate the improbability of the series of events/games which led to Ding holding the title. I really love the guy's humility and the way he bounces back.
Ding should be praised for his amazing effort. The first opportunity he got to compete in the candidates he took it. He was determined to make it to the candidates and then with an amazing comeback story securing 2nd place after winning against Hikaru is insane. Not to mention how he was trailing pretty much the entire time in the wwc until Nepo played f5 in one of the later rounds. And then Ding refusing to give up in the rapid format but not allowing for repetition took his chance and won. So I would say he 100% deserves this win. He jumped on the opportunity the moment it arose and there are not many people in this world who would do what Ding was able to accomplish.
Yes, the stars really had to align for Ding to win the world championship and his run will probably be cemented as one of the most epic. While the title match wasn’t as accurate as we’d expect for a world championship match, Ding finally overcame Nepo in a hard fought 18 games series never having the lead until the end. Despite all the challenges and adversity along the way, Ding was showing that he was here to fight and that he wouldn’t give up no matter how bleak the situation became and to me thats the signs of a deserving champion. Regardless of how the future unfolds, Ding will be immortalized as the inaugural Chinese world champion and no one can take that away from him.
I saw a short where Ian grazed the chess pieces with his hand in the last game. That's what brought me here. That movement showed so much emotion, like it came straight out of a movie. With shaking hands, caressing the pieces...Grabbing them all tightly at first, a rook slips from his hand then a knight falls off the table, the bishop then sliding out of the palm of his hand and finally spinning a knight and setting it down firmly. In a strange way extremely beautiful.
Don't know for sure if he'll take the crown or even if he'll win the candidates this time, but I'm pretty sure that another WCC match between Ian and Ding would be even more intense and dramatic. That being said, I root for Ian (and Ding as well) and he knows he's got a clear shot for redemption no just to beat Ding but to prove to himself that he can be world champion despite all the bumps along the road
5 days later, before Round 13: fingers crossed, but it’s gonna be really hard to achieve. 5 (!!!) people are still going back to back and have solid chances. Probably we’ll see a tie-break.
I believe the creator calling Ding lucky is referring to how he shouldn’t have gotten put into candidates and how he came back from a 1 point disadvantage over Ian during the end of the 14 round of classical part of the world championship if you watch the video to the end the creator praises Ding for his hard work and resilience.
He's not a "true" champion because he got "lucky"? I would say the exact opposite: He is a true deserving champion precisely because of his underdog story. Nobody expected him to participate. Nobody expected him to get on the top 2. Nobody expected him to become the champion. Nobody believed in him. Against all odds he rose in the ranks and fought his way to the championship. Not with luck but via sheer playing prowess, under tremendous pressure, probably more pressure that he has ever experienced in his entire life. That's not luck. That's sheer willpower, playing strength and talent. He did not crack under all the pressure and was able to win against the strongest players in the world. Would he have lost against Magnus if he had not relinquished the title? Probably. But that doesn't matter. Under the circumstances he fought and he prevailed, and rose to the top, even though nobody believed it would be possible. What better world champion than that?
To me, it is okay if somebody calls him lucky, but it is definitely not some kind of lucks when you win jackpots. It is a kind of luck created from years of efforts.
This video is one of the best videos about chess I have ever watched. It's a real documentary, speaking about chess games but not only. I loved the use of video clips from live commentary and other RUclips videos, really great job!!
No such thing as luck for Ding. He busted his ass off...worked his way to the position. Put himself in that position. Saw an opportunity and capitalised on it
Thanks so much for this video, I didn’t know how this went. It made me tear up a little to see how rare Ding’s chances were, what a dark horse, and how scared he was but yet how he held on until the last moment and managed to get the advantage in the very last moment possible. Incredibly inspiring. And as for Ian, you can’t help but feel sympathy for his great strength and his loss, especially considering his history. The final moment when Ding won, the visuals are really something and make you proud of both players. I tend to agree with Kasparov’s view of the match coming. But wow.
It baffles me how such a detailed good quality video like this doesn't get more views. I like to watch sports and specifically a big fan of Cricket and Football. I had this video recommended to me 8 different times in March 2024, only in the last one i actually decided to watch. This video single-handedly made an otherwise unnoticed championship into a THRILLER for me and made me pay serious attention into this sport. Now,I constantly watch other chess channels like Gothamchess and GM Hikaru and ofc your channel as well. Looking forward for more videos like this 👍🏻.
I know RUclips is RUclips but its just super obnoxious and pretty disrespectful to make a thumbnail that say that Ding was "lucky" to win while playing as well as he did.
It seems like the most talented chess professionals who have mental health challenges are in hell a bit more than professionals in other competitions because mental health seems to be more of a significant part of chess. Ding was the most sad winner I've ever seen lol But I'm glad he's still alive and trying to live through whatever he's going through. That's more important than chess.
Wow, Ding is THE unquestionable champion 🏆! He has proven it in every way. Thats exactly what excellence is made of. He went through unimaginable obstacles and still came on top. I'm humbled.
Dude this was an excellent video. Very well researched with all these compelling off the board storylines.. great job on this! Shoutout to the YT algorithm
I have been watching chess since about 2020. I have watched Ian play the world Championship twice and both times I was cheering for him. To see him fall over at the chess board live in that last game hurt my soul. I hope that he can win his third Candidates and final take home his world championship.
Dude,the u contradict urself Ding didnt play or traning after winning his wc title And he played badly in the last 3 official events I wont call that 'hard work' after winning wc
The slight difference is that Magnus went on to immediately and absolutely dominate the world of chess for ten years and four more World Titles. In fact, he was dazzling before the Candidates. Ding would have silenced a lot of critics far more important than people like me IF he had gone on to play magnificent chess ever since becoming world champion. But he has played very poorly, as if his rating were really above his punch. We agree that Magnus had luck on his side. Everyone needs Lady Luck in order to triumph. But Ding has done precious little with his crown all these months except prove his critics right.
@@sid1gen Was Donovan Bailey not the fastest man in 96 just because he didn't run against Michael Johnson in 100m at the Olympics? Was Demark somehow not the best European football team in 92 just because Yugoslavia got disqualified? When you win at a tournament widely regarded as the tournament to determine the best at the game, you don't need to win it over and over again to prove that you are the best. This is not the GOAT debate, stop treating it as one.
@@xianyuli6977 Stop telling me to stop! Ha, ha! Joking. Look, I understand that this issue can get emotional for some people. Some guys have shown to be really hurt by my comments, and I wish the best for Ding! But being the WC presupposes that you are the best. If you become WC without defeating the man who's universally considered the GOAT, then your crown may be a bit big for your head. Is it unfair? Yes. But that's the way things are. Technically and factually, Ding IS the World Champion. Tremendous achievement. But I will continue to see his title as a bit diminished. Regardless of what others achievers have done or not done in other disciplines, this is chess, and you are supposed to be the best in the world when you are World Champion. It's not in the rules; but it's in people's minds. It's in my mind. You disagree with me? Fine. I will not tell you to stop disagreeing with me. Go ahead and dissent all you want. And, xianyuli, if I want to treat this as the GOAT debate, I will treat it as the GOAT debate. Get used to people not agreeing with you. You are in a public forum. Welcome to our Agora.
Yes everyone did, if your opponent played perfectly the best you could hope for would be a series of draws followed by a coin toss - had all of magnus' opponents played like stockfish engines he'd have been lucky to draw a single game in his career, but they didn't and he exploited most of their mistakes while making very few himself
Ding may have gotten lucky getting into the Candidates, but he only needed luck in the first place because the entry rules make it more difficult for Chinese players. He may have gotten lucky with Magnus choosing not to defend the title, but then everyone though Nepo would beat him easily, and he didn’t. We can't look at theoreticals, we have to look at what happened over the board, and the fact is that he won.
I just want add His performance in that final game, was heroic, nay majestic, nay legendary. He could've chosen a draw. He could've chosen to go into blitz. However, a famous grandmaster once said "you must take your oppent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5 and the path leading out is only wide enough for one" That is precisely what He did. He said no draw. I've got enough to win. Remember, you don't have to beat the engine, you have to beat the person sitting across from you. That's what he did. He walked into a pin for the win. It was incredible.
My philosophical take on the World Championship is that for all the doubts about the validity of the title after Magnus' abdication, we got a memorable sequence of events so crazy it almost feels scripted. We got an amazing match and a beautiful story of resilience and beating the odds, and at the end of the day, isn't that what matters the most?
There is also the stroke of luck. Had kramnik not had an ego and won/drew his final game in the 2013 Candidates, Magnus may have not have the legacy he left/still leaving
He's not lucky. He got the chance and he took it. I was rooting for him. I was excited for him when he won. Ian acted as if it was his turn. Ding is a chess hero regardless of how long he remains champion. Ding fought heroically.
Nothing is luck in chess, it's your your moves, your opponents moves and pressure. You crack you lose, anyone can see good moves as an observer but when your in the thick of it, trust me it becomes a test, domes even simple moves.
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Best chess video I have seen in a while!
If anything, ding was extremely unlucky. You have to remember that ding was 100 games undefeated and in his best moment when covid came. He lose his momentum as the only person who was beating magnus and had a possiblity to win the title. Worse than that, by his return to chess his mental health was already declining, as it was evident in his match with ian, and he still won.
We were stolen by covid the alternate timeline of a beast ding and Magnus
Kasparov wasnt affected tho his mentality was perfect
@@glitch504sans9 Everyone is different. Kasparov walk out and got angry when he lost to a teenager, Teimur Radjabov. Magnus Carlsen is similarly react to Hans Niemann, and then start a bunch of litigation (whether it is justified or not). What I am saying is that these two are confident, and has some cockiness to them (not a bad thing). Heck Magnus walk out of the interview after he lost to Kajackin. Ding sat through interviews where it isn't his main language, while just minutes before he shaking and even frozen every matches. Ding is always vulnerable. Ding is pessimistic. Different people, different problem.
Kasparov had the balls to go against Putin while living in Russia. Magnus quit defend his title because he bore of playing against Ian. And here Ding drag himself to the match against Gukesh, while he had a horrendous year. And his chess was completely lacking. I related to Ding a lot. He fight on, despite it could have been a blow out embarrassment for him. I don't think Kasparov or Magnus who are far far ahead of the field feel as vulnerable and walking on knife edge as Ding. And that is when he was mentally better. Than whatever he have going on with his relationship and depression issue. Even anti depressant affect your thinking. You are not as sharp as before. Chemical in general. Like John Nash in a beautiful Mind (though that was drug for schizo), or Alan Turing when he was on chemical castration. I personally had some anti depressant meds before. And I know I wasn't operate at 100%.
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Fight on yea he just collapsed again I was exactly on point his mentality is too fragile for a world champion
@@glitch504sans9 sooo???
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" A combination of events may have led to opportunity, but the preparation and readiness at that time determine success.
Agreed. Saying someone got lucky just means they took advantage of the chances given to them by fate. It very much makes a difference but in a chess board there's no such thing as luck. So he won every match fair and square
Blue lock?
@@spiritthe4th321 they did have a speech about that but the idea existed well before that
no way Hikaru takes the draw if he knew it would cost him an opportunity
True every victory ever had can be attributed to luck.
He wasn’t just lucky. He beat out a strong field of candidates and then beat Nepo in a best of 12. It wasn’t like a one game fluke it was best out of 12 games and part of that test is a test of focus and endurance as well as skill. Nepo failed on focus and endurance and lost. Yes, he got a slot after someone withdrew but he was rated strongly enough to be the ‘spare’. You don’t get into that position by being complete trash and just ‘lucky’.
people know it but they don't have enough courage to accept it. God gives him a chance, he takes it and makes a miracle thing happened.
I've always loved the saying luck is when opportunity meets preparation and this is exactly what happened.
I think he was lucky. He should not have made it to the Candidates. But he did because the PRC went full steam for him, organizing those hurried tournaments so that he could qualify. The tournaments did not have the strongest players, as far as I know, but I could be wrong.
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@@sid1gen I don't think you need to be lucky to have that. France set a similar but more about boosting-elo event for Firouzja this year, even though it didn't count in the end.
Ding is just too humble mate, he deserves every good thing that's coming to him. To be completely honest, he's the only player ever to have consistently challenge magnus in classical chess over and over again. The lines they go into are so sharp that any mistake or inaccuracy can lead to defeat. Gotta love ding.
Wirch leads to all collective preocupation after norway chess this year
Fabiano Caruana did that too, Magnus couldn't get a single win against him in the 2018 world championship... they tied all 12 matches, and the winner had to be decided through rapid tiebreak games...
I think he would be a great world champion too
Totally agree although I want to add Caruana cause I was so proud of his 2018 challenge!
I saw this in my recommended multiple times and finally decided to watch it. I wasn't really invested in last year's championship, but this showed me how crazy it really was. Great video.
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he honestly was inches from death and the story of ding liren is just a remarkable tale to be told as he went from potentially having nothing to becoming part of the elite and eventually seen as a pro player aiming for the title of #1 in the world. before the pandemic he was a straight up monster notably taking down carlsen in the 2019 seinquefield cup tiebreaks and was seen as the man to take him down but unfortunately like him and a few others such as caruana and mamedyarov they began to fade from the scene. they weren't being seen or paid much attention to which in dings case was the worst as he had no real support while mamedyarov wasn't quite interested and caruana had all the resources and motivation to get back into the main stream. ding went on a road of hell to make it to the candidates and if anything its the struggle at the end knowing he practically was in tears to know It was finally over when he beat ian, it may not have been perfect or the world champion some would have wanted but if they were open minded and looked back a couple years ago they would see that ding definitely deserved to have the spot more than Ian but was neglected. this all made for the perfect chess underdog story in my opinion and it was honestly heartbreaking to see him finally succeed as all the pain and hours from losses and bad streaks were over. ding has not had the greatest time but for what its worth he is definitely one of my favorite players and notably has made his name in the chess world 100%. i hope more people begin to appreciate him like back in the day as in no doubt he is undisputedly the dark horse we were all happy for to make it and really resembled hope for everyone who works hard to improve so yeah lets hope ding gets back on his feet and wins his 2nd match, thanks for the video and hope everyone appreciates my take on the match and ding as a whole!
Ding sucks now and looses to everyone
@@end.olives and your missing the point
Bruh wtf have you ever seen a "world champion" getting owned this hard in tournaments?
@@paresa1601 and ding seems like someone that could be easily pressured into cheating by the ccp in china. The chinese goverment cheats on literally anything to win medals and stuff like that. Their whole society is orientated around the concept of face.
You are right. Nobody îs perfect only GOD and mistakes are super normal. The key îs have fun💪💪💪
“It doesn't matter if you win by and inch or a mile, winning's winning”
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Correction - It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning.
Winning by a mile makes you happier though. LOL
Ding is a legend! He NEVER gave up, he literally pinned himself to fight for a win, thus making himself immortal (as Magnus pointed out in his tweet congratulating Ding). You can accomplish great things if you believe in yourself, even if you're a shy person who feels emotions too deeply. It doesn't mean you can't win. Ding is an example in perseverance. My favorite world champion.
That was a fucking great video, I remember watching the games while working from home and watching gotham’s recaps. Was very fun to relive those days with your added insights
I remember going in not knowing to much about either player, but both grew on me from their interviews there. Watching Ding freeze up in a winning position mid tournament was horrifying and I lost hope for him after, but he turned things around. Pretty insane.
I remember watching this match live last year and it was SO good to watch. Day after day, the big plays, the blunders, the swinging score, the interviews, the recaps, the drama, the comeback, everything. The look on Ian's face, his body language, when he realizes everything's lost, it hits hard. I think everybody can understand fighting for something just to end up short, but to dedicate your life to chess, to spend months preparing for the match, to hold the lead for its entirety, and to see it all crumble in a matter of minutes, it's heartbreaking. Of course, Ian doesn't have anybody else to blame but himself, but it doesn't make it any easier.
Meanwhile, Ding's story, before, during and after the match is incredible. The 2024 Candidates is coming up shortly to decide Ding's opponent in the upcoming World Championship. Ding really seems to be struggling to play well lately, so a lot of people are betting that whoever wins the Candidates will become the champion. Well, I don't disagree, but we've seen weirder things happen. After all, Ding was considered one of the best players in the world, perhaps one of the few that could challenge Magnus for the title for a long time before the pandemic. Who knows, maybe Ding will find the strength to play like he used to, or maybe he'll crumble under the pressure, only time will tell. One thing is for sure, 2024 is going to be a very interesting year for chess fans.
If you consider Ian and Ding H2H from the first round of 2022 candidates, in which ding lost to Ian, the only time Ding was in lead was that one final game.
I don't care when people question him as champion. But from not being able to play qualifying tournaments for candidates because of restrictions, Sergey DQ, having to played 30 games before the deadline, losing first round of candidates to Ian, winning the last round against Hikaru, being on the backfoot throughout the classical games, and that final win. Its pure cinema man, Ding's perseverance deserves him to be the champion
100% Agree with this, Ding's entire journey needs to be made into a movie... Honestly it's so inspirational.
he qualified only coz hikaru threw the last game at candidates. His win was 30% perseverance but 70% luck everything in world went in his favor the classic nepo choke in the end as well when in the entire championship nepo played perfectly only to choke when it mattered. Nepo literally was the best opponent possible for an out of course question like ding. If ding defends his title this year then he deserves it otherwise he will go down in history as the most unworthy champion ever and no one can deny that.
@@morninglion27 this is like those situations when some random on the internet clowns on world no. 2 for not winning 💀. like bro shut up this guy's better than you by a long shot. by definition he is the world champion, as he won the match. like the commentator said, chess is a game of nerves. nepo's choke is his and his fault only, he let his nerves get to him like many times before. it doesn't matter whether he is "unworthy" or not, what matters is that he worked hard to get here, respect what he's done
@@hichewies i would never understand these meat riders like bruh 1 he is not world number 2 he is number 5 rn and he doesnt deserve to be even top 10 by the level of chess he is diplaying rn also are you a but slow or something? I need to be on his level to judge him lol? I can barely play badminton so i cant say that a school champion isnt as good as the world champion? Your logic is flawed and heavily influenced by your meat riding tendency kindly use this bs logic in a place where ppl are as slow as you
@@morninglion27pure cringe ding may not be strongest but he is by no means unworthy
This is the best tribute to the world championship so far
No, this is not the best tribute to the world champion Magnus Carlsen so far, lol.
@@qwertifier ur right lol
@@qwertifier Ding Liren is the world champion. That is a fact. No one's claiming that Ding is the best in the world or better than Magnus. But he is world champion and Magnus is not anymore.
@@armstrongtixid6873 *By FIDE version you forgot to mention.
The real WC is ofc Magnus, ask everyone.
@@qwertifier Sure, but officially it’s Ding Liren and there’s no ignoring that.
Carlsen: You seize this opportunity, bro. I am but truly tired of this event. Ding: Okay.
Luck got him to a rating of 2800. I'd love to have luck like that....
Funny, isn't it? In chess, just like in poker, the harder you study, the luckier you get.
its not luck its hard work
@@victorjiang5827 r/whoosh
I wish I lucked my way into a win against any super GM
It requires skill too, and by the way you're talking it doesn't seem like you have any
“Players will always be remembered by the legacy they left over the board”
What a beautiful line to end this even more beautiful video
A degenerated man child, grown by the Chinese dictatorship, who got lucky with the participation, won against the loser of the previous WC .. what a legacy
Dude WTF. I’ve been avoiding this video for a few days in my recommended because I thought it would just be another low quality commentary vid, and I haven’t been playing much chess for about a month. Oh my god. This video is fucking phenomenal and not only has it given me goosebumps but it’s reawakened an excitement for chess I haven’t felt since the beginning. The way you explain certain game deciding moves while the openings themselves are unpopular at the top like the London/colle system reimagines the game for me in a completely new yet comprehensible way. Also, the music, like the long chord strings and stuff, shit is creating a godly atmosphere. Thank you, please make so much more like this. I love ❤
good for you!
dude trust me he missed a lot of point a lot of analysis in the game (like the game number 14 it wasnt a completly winning after the ding blunder and the continuatious of the game that he show us isnt the right one). it is a beautiful spectacular video i admit, but it really low as propagandistic and click bait as good chess analysis video... like a good showman, hr make a beautiful show without explaining or go into the real detail.
(Sorry for my poor English)
i agree hata
@@absention390 nah you’re goated man like damn 🐐 🤤
@@absention390 hope you’re doing good 😊
Ding (before the pandemic) was an absolute monster and could’ve given Fabiano or Carlsen a run for their money.
Now he’s burnt out and his playing style isn’t the same. Recently he drawed Carlsen so maybe the old Ding is coming back.
No really,u watch his interview before the wc?
He said if he didnt win the wc=he will retire
That' s bad motivation
Im 100% sure he didnt have any motivation left after winning wc
I may be a fan of Nepo but man you really did a great job, I enjoyed it and I can say that this is better than a lot of the best documentaries and movies. You have my support.
A better human couldn't have become the world chess champion. Ding just floored us with his preparation, comeback capability, resilience, simple humble existence. Never underestimate Ding
Ding might not be in his best form right now but he was still second at the candidates and won the title matches. It was not just "luck"
You told a great story in such captivating way, I just at the end noticed it was 50 minutes long. Good job, you have a talent
kudos for the amazing video. Ding performs stunningly as the underdog, and i cant wait for him to retain his World Champion Crown later this year and proving that his greatness isn't a fluke.
It's as if god wanted ding to win all along. Like the most unexpected turns happened at the most unexpected times... Karjakin got banned, which nobody expected, leaving one final spot open for ding. Then, FIDE came up with the rating rule, which was the only hope for ding to play the candidates. Then, he didn't even have enough games and the chinese chess federation somehow managed to let ding complete 30 games in 30 days... Then he gets to the candidates, has a bad start, then strikes back in the most impossible way with so many back to back wins. Then he somehow clinches 2nd place. Normally, 2nd place in the candidates means nothing. But for his sake, magnus withdrew and now even guaranteed him the WC challenger spot. Then in the WC he was immensly struggling vs nepo, and somehow nepo missed golden chances, even in the last classical game to clinch the World champion title. Ding was hanging onto the last thread for all this time. Then in the absolutely last game he ends up winning. Like this can't be all a coincidence, someone definitely wanted all that for ding.
100 % agree. Something otherworldly was occurring here. Too many coincidences
This is one of the best documentary I have seen, with every single iconic moment captured from all the matches. Loved it! Wonderful work brother!!
2800+ rating was luck?????
Winning against in candidate fabi hikaru luck????
12 match+ rapid in World championship was luck?
He is still in top 10 by rating is it luck?
Just accept the fact he was capable.
Fantastic tribute to Ding's incredible journey! This video deserves wayyyyy more view than it has got so far! Keep up the good work!
I think magnus realized not so much that his skill was declining but his mental fortitude was declining. He wanted shorter time controls, the stress, the pressure, He knew that stronghold was cracking. I don't know, we will never know for sure but it's worth considering
The very second that you pass up the fight, you become no longer worthy as a candidate for the world champion.
Excellent video. Takes a synopsis like this to truly appreciate the improbability of the series of events/games which led to Ding holding the title. I really love the guy's humility and the way he bounces back.
"luck" is the most diabolical words for someone who fight back for the title of world champion
Ding should be praised for his amazing effort. The first opportunity he got to compete in the candidates he took it. He was determined to make it to the candidates and then with an amazing comeback story securing 2nd place after winning against Hikaru is insane. Not to mention how he was trailing pretty much the entire time in the wwc until Nepo played f5 in one of the later rounds. And then Ding refusing to give up in the rapid format but not allowing for repetition took his chance and won. So I would say he 100% deserves this win. He jumped on the opportunity the moment it arose and there are not many people in this world who would do what Ding was able to accomplish.
Yes, the stars really had to align for Ding to win the world championship and his run will probably be cemented as one of the most epic. While the title match wasn’t as accurate as we’d expect for a world championship match, Ding finally overcame Nepo in a hard fought 18 games series never having the lead until the end. Despite all the challenges and adversity along the way, Ding was showing that he was here to fight and that he wouldn’t give up no matter how bleak the situation became and to me thats the signs of a deserving champion. Regardless of how the future unfolds, Ding will be immortalized as the inaugural Chinese world champion and no one can take that away from him.
I saw a short where Ian grazed the chess pieces with his hand in the last game. That's what brought me here.
That movement showed so much emotion, like it came straight out of a movie.
With shaking hands, caressing the pieces...Grabbing them all tightly at first, a rook slips from his hand then a knight falls off the table, the bishop then sliding out of the palm of his hand and finally spinning a knight and setting it down firmly. In a strange way extremely beautiful.
Part 2: Nepo's 2024 revenge tour. I think he's gonna come back, rising out of the candidates, and take the crown this time
Don't know for sure if he'll take the crown or even if he'll win the candidates this time, but I'm pretty sure that another WCC match between Ian and Ding would be even more intense and dramatic. That being said, I root for Ian (and Ding as well) and he knows he's got a clear shot for redemption no just to beat Ding but to prove to himself that he can be world champion despite all the bumps along the road
5 days later, before Round 13: fingers crossed, but it’s gonna be really hard to achieve. 5 (!!!) people are still going back to back and have solid chances. Probably we’ll see a tie-break.
It didn't happen.
Gukesh came through
Absolutely beautiful documentary, you're destined for greatness, man. Amazing work.
Calling him lucky just removed all the hardwork he did
I believe the creator calling Ding lucky is referring to how he shouldn’t have gotten put into candidates and how he came back from a 1 point disadvantage over Ian during the end of the 14 round of classical part of the world championship if you watch the video to the end the creator praises Ding for his hard work and resilience.
Construction workers got lucky. They randomly lay bricks and they become a building.
Someone is jealous lol, can't be happier to see someone like you still exists .
Amazing video. Great job capturing the emotions of both sides during these games
this is really well made documentary, didnt know so many behind the scenes in the tournament. Kudos for the production and storytelling!
Wow, great video!!! I had kind of checked out with the world championship after Carlson abdicated the throne. Love this!
Self pinned for immortality. - Magnus
Against all odds. Ding was destined to be world champion.
what's interesting is that real madrid were also very "lucky" in their win, taking only 4 shots compared to liverpools 24
There's no luck at that level
He's not a "true" champion because he got "lucky"?
I would say the exact opposite: He is a true deserving champion precisely because of his underdog story. Nobody expected him to participate. Nobody expected him to get on the top 2. Nobody expected him to become the champion. Nobody believed in him. Against all odds he rose in the ranks and fought his way to the championship. Not with luck but via sheer playing prowess, under tremendous pressure, probably more pressure that he has ever experienced in his entire life. That's not luck. That's sheer willpower, playing strength and talent. He did not crack under all the pressure and was able to win against the strongest players in the world. Would he have lost against Magnus if he had not relinquished the title? Probably. But that doesn't matter. Under the circumstances he fought and he prevailed, and rose to the top, even though nobody believed it would be possible.
What better world champion than that?
To me, it is okay if somebody calls him lucky, but it is definitely not some kind of lucks when you win jackpots. It is a kind of luck created from years of efforts.
Ian definitely qualified for the Hikaru Nakamura Sportsmanship Award with his behavior at the end of the match
Good presentation. Pulling the gravity of the stage with crisp commentary and music
This video is one of the best videos about chess I have ever watched. It's a real documentary, speaking about chess games but not only. I loved the use of video clips from live commentary and other RUclips videos, really great job!!
Same with Toronto Raptors championship, perfect storm of other teams injuries and such
what a documentary man!!! very very intense and amazing work...need more like that...
No such thing as luck for Ding. He busted his ass off...worked his way to the position. Put himself in that position. Saw an opportunity and capitalised on it
This documentary was amazing, you've earned yourself a sub sir!
Wow, this is amazing man, i have been waiting for this!!!!
"Nothing happens by accident," Dr. House
Lucky lasts one game, maybe 2. He made it to Armageddon and kept his cool. That's not luck, that's composure
Thanks so much for this video, I didn’t know how this went. It made me tear up a little to see how rare Ding’s chances were, what a dark horse, and how scared he was but yet how he held on until the last moment and managed to get the advantage in the very last moment possible. Incredibly inspiring. And as for Ian, you can’t help but feel sympathy for his great strength and his loss, especially considering his history. The final moment when Ding won, the visuals are really something and make you proud of both players. I tend to agree with Kasparov’s view of the match coming. But wow.
I didn't know i could watch a 49-minute chess video.
This is basically a professional documentary like something you would see for rent or buy in prime video
Here after ding lost the recent championship
Same here. But ding is a fighter. Played a very good game much more solid than this.
It baffles me how such a detailed good quality video like this doesn't get more views. I like to watch sports and specifically a big fan of Cricket and Football. I had this video recommended to me 8 different times in March 2024, only in the last one i actually decided to watch. This video single-handedly made an otherwise unnoticed championship into a THRILLER for me and made me pay serious attention into this sport. Now,I constantly watch other chess channels like Gothamchess and GM Hikaru and ofc your channel as well. Looking forward for more videos like this 👍🏻.
Imagine winning a best out of 12 for the world championship and people start talking about how lucky you got.
RUclipsrs will put out for money
Imagine half the ppl in chess community saying ding got lucky on many levels. And somehow other ppl thinking the % of ppl are wrong
BROOOO i never stayed so long in a video interested and less in chess, but this video got my heart pumping like crazy
what a storyteller. Good Job
Ding managing to win even after that leak was incredible. Great video!
Brilliant documentary. It should be shown on Netflix, really.
Got this in my recommended, it's so good! You did Ding justice.
I'd never had to watch that much gothamchess before i saw your video... that guy really has to chill.
I know RUclips is RUclips but its just super obnoxious and pretty disrespectful to make a thumbnail that say that Ding was "lucky" to win while playing as well as he did.
cant agree more
Watch first
RUclipsrs being money hungry whrs. What a surprise.
I love this whole story and I am so happy Ding is world champion, his will be a story for chess history I’m sure
It seems like the most talented chess professionals who have mental health challenges are in hell a bit more than professionals in other competitions because mental health seems to be more of a significant part of chess. Ding was the most sad winner I've ever seen lol But I'm glad he's still alive and trying to live through whatever he's going through. That's more important than chess.
Wow, Ding is THE unquestionable champion 🏆!
He has proven it in every way. Thats exactly what excellence is made of. He went through unimaginable obstacles and still came on top. I'm humbled.
Bro, YOU CANT WIN THE CHESS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WITH JUST LUCK.
Ian looks like he could crash out at any second
Will you do a follow up documentary IF Ding wings again this year
he lost Gukesh won sorry for ding congrats for Gukesh he did blunder
Dude this was an excellent video. Very well researched with all these compelling off the board storylines.. great job on this! Shoutout to the YT algorithm
Why you are so underrated.?????
Thanks for giving us a full world championship recap .❤❤❤
I have been watching chess since about 2020. I have watched Ian play the world Championship twice and both times I was cheering for him. To see him fall over at the chess board live in that last game hurt my soul. I hope that he can win his third Candidates and final take home his world championship.
Ding deserves so much more gratitude for his performance. I am from norway and love Magnus, but hard work deserves recognition.
Dude,the u contradict urself
Ding didnt play or traning after winning his wc title
And he played badly in the last 3 official events
I wont call that 'hard work' after winning wc
@@dereknichols4376 you are stuck
@@dereknichols4376 Bro Ding took A big L. just admit it .
I mean, Magnus had luck on his side during the Candidates where he won against Kramnik (because of his ego) where he beat Vishy.
It was all because of Ivanchuk lol
The slight difference is that Magnus went on to immediately and absolutely dominate the world of chess for ten years and four more World Titles. In fact, he was dazzling before the Candidates. Ding would have silenced a lot of critics far more important than people like me IF he had gone on to play magnificent chess ever since becoming world champion. But he has played very poorly, as if his rating were really above his punch. We agree that Magnus had luck on his side. Everyone needs Lady Luck in order to triumph. But Ding has done precious little with his crown all these months except prove his critics right.
@@sid1gen Was Donovan Bailey not the fastest man in 96 just because he didn't run against Michael Johnson in 100m at the Olympics? Was Demark somehow not the best European football team in 92 just because Yugoslavia got disqualified? When you win at a tournament widely regarded as the tournament to determine the best at the game, you don't need to win it over and over again to prove that you are the best. This is not the GOAT debate, stop treating it as one.
@@xianyuli6977 Stop telling me to stop! Ha, ha! Joking. Look, I understand that this issue can get emotional for some people. Some guys have shown to be really hurt by my comments, and I wish the best for Ding! But being the WC presupposes that you are the best. If you become WC without defeating the man who's universally considered the GOAT, then your crown may be a bit big for your head. Is it unfair? Yes. But that's the way things are. Technically and factually, Ding IS the World Champion. Tremendous achievement. But I will continue to see his title as a bit diminished. Regardless of what others achievers have done or not done in other disciplines, this is chess, and you are supposed to be the best in the world when you are World Champion. It's not in the rules; but it's in people's minds. It's in my mind. You disagree with me? Fine. I will not tell you to stop disagreeing with me. Go ahead and dissent all you want. And, xianyuli, if I want to treat this as the GOAT debate, I will treat it as the GOAT debate. Get used to people not agreeing with you. You are in a public forum. Welcome to our Agora.
Yes everyone did, if your opponent played perfectly the best you could hope for would be a series of draws followed by a coin toss - had all of magnus' opponents played like stockfish engines he'd have been lucky to draw a single game in his career, but they didn't and he exploited most of their mistakes while making very few himself
Ding may have gotten lucky getting into the Candidates, but he only needed luck in the first place because the entry rules make it more difficult for Chinese players. He may have gotten lucky with Magnus choosing not to defend the title, but then everyone though Nepo would beat him easily, and he didn’t. We can't look at theoreticals, we have to look at what happened over the board, and the fact is that he won.
So beautiful, it captured the essence of the Championship, thank you TheCheckmateCorner for making this vid!
This is an incredible production!
Today he is just CHILLING 👍🏻
This was the "Bloodsport" of chess
amazing… no matter how unlikely it seemed, it happened because it was his destiny to become world champion.
I just want add
His performance in that final game, was heroic, nay majestic, nay legendary. He could've chosen a draw. He could've chosen to go into blitz. However, a famous grandmaster once said "you must take your oppent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5 and the path leading out is only wide enough for one"
That is precisely what He did. He said no draw. I've got enough to win. Remember, you don't have to beat the engine, you have to beat the person sitting across from you. That's what he did. He walked into a pin for the win. It was incredible.
Mikhail Tal is credited with that. Who knows what Tal, one of my favorite players, thought after he met Korchnoi.
I can see the SummoningSalt influence ^^
Good video and nice pacing.
This was a masterpiece of a documentary 👏
Hope Ding to be ok, such a pure soul.
Liked the documentary!!!! Make one on Ian and his struggles!
This video is fantastically well done. Even already knowing the result, the storytelling was extremely entertaining.
He won it fair and square
Honestly he won with disadvantage because of the leak...
28:54. Bro you made me think ian was gonna jump on ding
My philosophical take on the World Championship is that for all the doubts about the validity of the title after Magnus' abdication, we got a memorable sequence of events so crazy it almost feels scripted. We got an amazing match and a beautiful story of resilience and beating the odds, and at the end of the day, isn't that what matters the most?
There is also the stroke of luck. Had kramnik not had an ego and won/drew his final game in the 2013 Candidates, Magnus may have not have the legacy he left/still leaving
Magnus was inevitable, he had already qualified the previous year @@JoshuaGutierrez-yq2bi
This video is amazing. The script, editing, everything is great man. Well done
He's not lucky. He got the chance and he took it. I was rooting for him. I was excited for him when he won. Ian acted as if it was his turn. Ding is a chess hero regardless of how long he remains champion. Ding fought heroically.
❤
Nothing is luck in chess, it's your your moves, your opponents moves and pressure. You crack you lose, anyone can see good moves as an observer but when your in the thick of it, trust me it becomes a test, domes even simple moves.
Well well well
The speech at the end was just awesome... It brought me to tears