ROOKIE RIDER VS MOTOGP RIDER: WHAT'S DIFFERENT? Naska VS Jonas Folger @ Cremona - Yamaha R1
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2019
- I had the chance to ride with Jonas Folger, former MotoGP rider. He was 2 seconds faster than me, so i've put some cameras on his Yamaha R1 and compared our onboard laps. And i've found some truly amazing things! In this video i show you what's the difference between me (Semi-pro rider with just 3 years of experience) and a MotoGP Rider! - Subscribe: bit.ly/2k5ageo
#motogprider #yamahar1 #jonasfolger
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This is absolute gold knowledge being passed here. All my respect and i feel fortunate that i found you. Keep up the good work
Do you use rear brake at all?
Excellent information. I appreciate the time you take to share what you learn so that we can all improve together.
Really, great video and content.
@@ridewithandrei Agreed
if that is a Rookie then i am a Cyclist in comparison xD
I'm a tricyclist lol.
Exactly the same feeling dude...
Hahaha same here 🤣.
@@DarwinAllen Truly, I would like to be the 'rookie' in the movie first 🤣.
@@juzhenatpku haha you and me both. I've got a lot of learning to do before I'm keeping up with any MotoGP riders 😂
Wow, I am just a casual street rider and your self-analysis and humility blows me away! This is my first time watching a video of yours and I am more than happy to sub to your channel. Great job!
I'd say It's a rule with all skills. If you ever get to a point where you stop knowing your own mistakes, then progressing is going to be very hard.
You always have to know where you are weak so you can improve those things.
@@raidkoast Agree 100%! It is very refreshing to see such humility though. I've got 40+ years of riding so far and I am always looking out for ways to improve what meager skills I do have. Riding at these levels is beyond what I can do, but I still enjoy watching videos like these and maybe I'll even pick up something that I can use at my skill level? Even if I don't, it's still fun and educational to watch. Cheers!
Same
Same as me. ( may be the difference is i ride a moped 🤣🤣)
YEAH!! THATS TRUE!...
Excellent video sir. As a former test rider with over 300k miles on the track I felt like I was living vicariously watching your voyage of discovery. The more you ride at the limits, yours or the machines, the more you discover. You begin to experiment with very subtle manipulations of your control points (seat, pegs, bars) body position, sequencing, everything! It's like using 2 fingers to zoom into an image on your phone, something that was just a small action in your cornering technique is blown up in your mind to reveal it in stark detail. You see where it's good, bad and you manipulate it to observe for improvement.
I always loved those Zen-like moments when my concentration was so intense that despite actually going faster, it seemed like I actually had more time to think through and execute each transition on the bike. You begin to feel all the subtle ways the motorcycle is communicating to you. I called the effect Time Dilation because that's what it felt like. The only time other than flogging a motorcycle around a racetrack that I've experienced that effect was in a car crash. Weird huh?
Anyway, love you videos, you've got a sub. Good luck and keep the shiny side up!
James Payne, I don't know the first thing about motorcycle racing, but I do understand your point on time dilation in a car wreck. As I was sliding into a vehicle that crossed in front of me, I experienced it. I remember several complete thoughts as time slowed way down. First one was; I'm probably going to be in the hospital for a long time. Second one was; That's if I survive this, because this car hasn't got much meat on it.
Funny thing was when we got about fifteen feet before impact, everything instantly sped up again, and the next thing I knew was full impact, and being dazed from it. Very interesting effect though. Shame it took an accident to experience the phenomena.
Thank you for sharing - appreciated!
Yeah I agree and it's called the Flow State, professional athletes, racers, even Gamers actually experience this and non athletes and athletes alike experience it in extreme situations. I know what you mean when I crashed my bike that 5 seconds felt like 60 seconds and the amount of thinking you do in that small time frame is incredible.
yeah, i had these zen moments in near crashes and crashes. i could observe everything as though time stood still. come to think of it, it makes sense about multiple dimensions and that focus thing when pushing limits unknowingly, just naturally is linked to an intuitive knowing of whats to come.... racing drivers seem to own that sensing moreso than our regular such as me.
It's what adrenaline is for... Giving your body a rush of cognitive and energetic ability for emergency reaction.. if you become reasonably cognitively competent, through practice and gaining familiarity with the situations that trigger adrenaline rushes, means adrenaline delivery is expected which makes the situation less frantic and your focus and ability is better for longer as you channel the rush under control. That's magical
The most detail riding analysis I've ever seen in youtube. Kudos!
Holy sh*t!! I learned more from this single video than 10 of my track sessions and a decade of riding on the street combined!!!
Thank you, Shisho!! 🙏🙏🙏
*(deep bow)*
lagubrok92 lol same track day instructors can’t even Match this info smh
I don't ride cua I'm 14 but I wouldn't have ever known how technical this is and how tiny things can make such a big difference
Naska you're so humble, you're attitude is perfect for self improvement, you really are an amazing rider! You would make a Great coach and teacher. I hope that I can adopt your attitude to everything I do
YOU ARE AWESOME! I LOVE YOU!
Have learnt so much from this guy and I love your vids too cam 👌✨
Gays :v
Good to see you here, love your stuff especially on track. It all makes so much sense watching this, it's amazing.
Well that was awfully quick, but OK - it just hits like lighting sometimes ;)
8:56 what a difference. Yet leaning so far forward looks more risky to fall off.
You've earned a new subscriber...i recently got my first bike and went to the track and to see someone with your skills calling themselves a rookie makes me both scared and excited at the same time. Thanks for providing this valuable knowledge for free to the world!!
Naska this video was amazing. Thank you for these amazing contents and for the usual excellent quality of your videos 💪🏻
Tyres
I agree! Good video!
ROOOOOKIEEEEEEEEEE
This is my new favorite channel at the moment and it's really helping to save my sanity while waiting for the next MotoGP season. Naska, you are a LEGEND!
Same
Likewise. Great channel
OUTSTANDING ANALYSIS! You have made me look at MotoGP totally from a different perspective.
Watching this again after a long time. Pushing with your feet makes a remarkable difference! If you also add pressing your outside knee into the tank, it lets you stay looser on the bars and tightens the turn even more. The first time you try it you’ll turn in so well you might almost run off the track on the inside of the turn. Give it a shot!
Your whole body is a bunch of levers.
Center of a gravity doesn't really apply to humans when on a motorcycle because every part has mass, and every part is somewhere on a lever.
When you been subbed watching all his Italian content with English subtitles wishing he could speak it, then this. 😭😭😭 Prayers have been answered 🙏
That was pretty cool. I'm impressed at the amount of honest introspection you did. I hope it helps you out on the track.
Great content! This is exactly the kind of information we want.. technical yet straight forward... Keep it coming... actual riding applications like this WILL teach many how to properly ride and perhaps show how to stay alive!!!! TY
I’d pay to have him riding again 😢😢
You're not a rookie. 2 second slower than a MotoGP rider is definitely pro level.
Do you even know how big a 2 second gap is?Also who the hell is johan falgo?Never heard of him
@@taskforceknight9336 Jonas Folger, motogp rider in yamaha tech3 team until he had health problems.
He had a really good battle with marquez at the german gp in 2017.
Any rider that can fight with marc marquez for a win is really fast
@@taskforceknight9336 🤣🤣🤣
@@iTxip I'm still a bit sad he had to leave MotoGP for health reasons :(
@@taskforceknight9336 i think you're missing the "MotoGP rider" part
Been a while since I came across a video where the attention to detail was properly broken down. You my friend have made me a subscriber... keep up the hard work!
this is dope content!! Super well explained, easy to understand, litteraly everbody can learn from it. Good work man, keep it coming!
It's incredible how much I've learned from watching this single video, from you, Naska; noticing your mistakes and being humble about them.
And I've a pretty good background on track.
+1 sub!
Fantastic job! So clear, so analytical. I would never have spotted half of the details you picked up.
This is one of the best videos of its kind I've ever seen. Maybe THE best. Great observation/insight. Thank you!
This is the best breakdown I've seen. Fantastic job with the info and with the editing.
I love that you are so honest and are giving back to people that have a passion to riding. In some ways saving lives, cause as you know everyone does use learning experiences of times too late and might not get a second chance to learn from it . Thank you so much
THIS IS AMAZING ADVICE.....please more more more .....I learn so much from this channel I appreciate it all..... LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
Good job Naska. Seriously, you'd deserve the RUclips motorsport channel award if it exists.
2nd that
GREAT video! Good work
I love how this evolves; WOW I’m only a few seconds off a great moto- go rider! By the end of the video; I know that I know nothing, and I must learn how to ride all over again using all my body in sync with the bike. Amazing break down and analysis. Catching all those subtle things. Truly great rider, and you see how and why now. Go chase it!
Valentino starts breaking with rear brake when he's still accelerating, so he doesn.t run the risk of breaking while weeling, maybe it serves you. great video
Great analysis...... Everything is in the detail it seems and no doubt having a good pair of kahonas helps. :)
yes and if you dont u are ROOOOOKIEEEEE lol
cojones
Love your videos. Its refreshing to see someone that knows in order to improve you have to first acknowledge that you can potentially always learn something from almost anyone.
Brother, that is one of the most interesting breakdowns I've seen, Great job.
Other videos may be around like this but I haven't seen them.
I still remember when I started riding. My mentor, who used to race, when it came to teach me how to ride once told me:
"To begin, learn your motorbike because if you do not have enough trust on bike you will have bad time when pressure and limits are chased, and trust is the only thing needed to succeed."
"Train yourself not using the brakes too much by taking laps with a constant speed goal. Consistency is key to overall faster time around the circuit."
"Be natural on your riding, it shows when you are forcing something to happen."
"The track is the opponent, and you have rivals who willingly beat the opponent if you do not do it."
"Smooth, not shocking. Great"
"Loosen up" got me dragging knee.
Johnny Blue
It sure is scary in the beginning...then I discovered it myself that it is actually logical, turn-in and turn out!
"You should always have your wheels touching the ground when you brake..."
Good advice, check!
that's just about the only thing in this entire video that I was doing correctly all along
This was one of the most brilliantly constructed videos I've watched in awhile! Great job!
My name is Michael from Vancouver BC Canada thankyou for all of your excellent rider tips as i have been following for about 6 months and just did my first day at the track EVER last weekend. Studying your videos has helped me so much. My life is changed forever, nothing compares. Thankyou and keep them coming!!
Alberto, this video is just insane !!! THANK YOU
This is possibly the best video I have watched. I enjoyed how he explained everything. I love it👍🏽
This is awesome man! I love the in-depth analysis!!
I just came across your videos and they are amazing. The fact that you are able to see and breakdown every minute detail and discover where you need to improve is amazing.
Good luck with your riding. You have a new fan!
Amazing job! Love the way you explain everything, you helping all of us to improve! Thank you
Great video, you’re attention to detail is amazing
Love your videos, very informative and accurate to my way of thinking as well. I learn a lot from your short videos, please keep them coming.
Fantastic content, i literally stopped everything i was doing to finish this video, i love hyper analytics like this and having the perspective of a motogp rider is awesome because you can break down certain things that a regular motorcycle rider doesnt understand, amazing im definitely subscribing
that was a WORLD of knowledge from just one video! i hope this helps me improve even just on the streets
this legit an academy session, thanks for the tips
This video is phenomenal. I hope you add more content like this as you advance not just because it helps me understand better but I love to see good people winning on and off the track. Great content, thank you
Thanks for another great video. your videos are so informed and helpful. i don't know anybody else that analyses everything in as much detail as you. keep the videos coming mate!
I ever seen somebody how is so precise while he is analyzing!
And i nice to see that you’re never at the end and there are always can learn something
Grazie ! 👍🏻
Keep going !
amazing man, first time and finally we know some of the many tricks learned so practiced by the pro riders. subscribed no doubts.
Awesome video. Great comparison and breaking it down. Looking to getting on the track for the first time this year. I'll keep watching for more content.
Amazing analysis with such a great personality man !! Major kudos to you ! I have a Ducati Pikes Peak and now I feel like a child with a lolly pop compared to you guys ! Keep up the great work and effort and please keep adding more videos ! You make them super interesting !
Absolutely perfect race review! Thanks for this one 🚧
This is absolutely awesome. The bit about staying off the middle of the tyre onto the straight to keep revs up is brilliant, and using the bump of the gear change to help move your arse. Lots of little things for me to work on!!
Mark Smith how does this keep revs up?
@@davejimgut When the bike is leaned over, the tire has a smaller circumference, and should allow higher engine revs--
How do you combine this with the pushing on the foot pegs to gain a more forward position, like at 15:32 ?
Nice video. I love that you're being critical with yourself and you know exactly what and how to improve. That's key to growing. Keep it up and forza Alberto!
This is awesome. Thanks to you and Jonas for this great analysis!
Excellent work - subbed. Your analysis explained a number of things for me. Clear and well explained. Awesome job in a second language. Please more like this.
I do a lot of track riding and I am improving slowly. I love the complexity and minute detail of going fast. It is truly fascinating whilst also exhilarating. I think Alberto is by far the most curious and articulate coach I have seen and it shows in his extraordinary race results. A big thanks to him for doing this in english.
I believe that was highly informative gave me an incredible outlook on riding now highly appreciate the pointers. Very impressive keep up the good work.
Love the analysis, it brings more insight to the techniques used!!!
Great Work, keep on !!!!
Amazing video, amazing riding style and what a precise analysis!
The champion spirit is in you buddy! Sure you will win 2 secondes soon on your fastest lap✌️
I learned more from this video than the last 5 track days I've done....
First time seeing one of your videos. Excellent video brother!! Always learning and applying what you've learned is the best state to be in!! Keep'em comin'!!!
Fantastic video. Amazing analysis. Your humility and eagerness to learn and improve will take you far. All the best!
very interesting, thx for the awesome content...much love from 🇩🇪
Hi alberto I'm an italian guy but I prefer watching your videos on the international youtube chanel to improve my english and try to learn somethings about race world. I write you in english only because you asked to don't write in italian in this chanel. I also want to said that you are a fantastic example of determination and costancy so thanks you and GAS A MARTELLO !!!
What an amazing video. Honest and thorough analysis, good fun as well. The way you break it down is great.
Alberto, thanks so much for an amazing video! Some of the best analysis of body position and the impact of smoothly moving on a bike that I have ever seen. Also... congrats on riding within 2 second of Folger! Wow. Subscribed!
Amazing video! So glad you started an English channel! Subscribed - and wow what a great video. Going to share this one around for sure.
Exactly! And my hat's off to you for doing two videos, one in Italian and the other in English.
Thanks for this! Just getting back into riding and two corners where I always ran wide and used almost the entire track I was able to totally fix by simply putting my head way forward by where the mirrors would be. Wow, what a difference - I could keep such a tight line just from changing that. Thank you!!!
Yeah, too bad about street bike mirrors now.
@Alberto Naska EN ... I think i Learned more about my own riding from this little video than any riding clinic i've ever been to. holy cow my friend, you have a gift!!
I actually learned a lot from this! Really interesting! Can’t wait to try the body positioning, the leaning forward over the bike mainly.. keep up the vids man! Grazie Mille!🤙🏾
10:40 is a "mind blown" moment. I have ALWAYS wondered why they do this and couldn't figure it out. Great insight!!!
if you accelerate with the bike slightly leaning,you are using a part of the tyre that has a smaller diameter-as moto tyres dont have the same diameter in all their width as car tyres do for example-and this results in a faster acceleration,as smaller diameter works as lower gearing
There is a formula that links vehicle speed with RPM, gear ratio, final gear ratio, (differential ratio, for cars), and tire circumference (relative to rotating axle).
Cars (and side cars) don't lean and have squared tires hence the tire circumference remains constant and so does the RPM.
In bikes, you have to lean and got rounded tires, meaning the radius (and circumference) isn't constant so does the RPM while leaning.
By staying longer in higher RPM, you can stay longer in the high-power RPM range.
The bike is lowered by the shorter tire radius and is then less prone to wheeling. But the simple fact of leaning (tires considaration apart) lowers your center of gravity too! Meaning it also reduces the wheeling.
@@anemos24210 I was wondering how the lean made rpms increase faster. Luckily I found your comment. Thank you!
@@nounours2627 And leaning creates a down force (suspension compression) that counters the acceleration up (wheelie) force.
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
I only ever learned my (scooter) lessons by doing faceplants and thinking "that was too much", so props to you :D
We always say that in training for the army. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, fast is deadly
This is absolutely great insight. I've never even ridden a bike before, i'm just a fan of the sport but great to get an insight into the level of detail riding at the pro level just to improve your riding by small margins, but how it makes such a huge difference to your overall performance! New favourite channel!
Just found this page. Awesome video so far ( halfway though ) can’t wait to watch the rest
2 years of riding and you already that good 😱👏👏👏 bravo my friend and also enjoyed this video, you did a hell of a job 👌👍
He only has 2 years of riding experience???🤯 Are you kidding me? I have exactly 2 years of riding experience and I look like I've been riding for 2 weeks compared to how he rides... OMG, AMAZING GOD JOB!!👏👏👏
WOW, I suck!🤣🤣🤣
Amazing analysis and tips. Actually, I already know some of this stuff, but applying it is a whole different ball game. I was riding COTA this past weekend and there was a MotoAmerica pro rider on the track doing testing. Later on I was comparing images of his body position and mine in the same corners and one biggest difference is how much more forward he is sitting on the bike, much closer to the tank and with outer leg rotated out much more. I think this is the same thing you comment on n your video. I will definitely try that in the future.
I love the info you give with the analysing with how to relate with Jonas. Bravo!
That's why I still love YT - you created some wonderful piece of advice and content for us - many thanks for sharing and your comittment! Drive safe! All the best
Hi Alberto, amazing watching your analysis. I did the same with a racer here in my car whom had previously set many lap records in an almost identical car. Luckily that day I had my AIM datalogger running, he commented that I often braked too hard and thus wasn't carrying enough speed into the corners (just like your own analysis against Folger). I was also trail braking too much and scrubbing speed. The data said the same thing. Fascinating thing though, I often braked later than him but the gains I made from that were much smaller than the lap time lost by not carrying the speed on the entry phase. It's something I never really thought about prior to that but meant that over the previous 3 race seasons there were many times I was throwing away a lot of lap time by not focusing on maximising the entry phase.
I wish I was good enough to actually be able to implement this amazing information! Great observation
Same
i just stumbled on your video randomly but the amount of knowledge i got out of this is beyond amazing. Absolutely subbed right away and will make sure to check out more of your channel as i'm now finally a bike owner!
Top notch review definitely subscribed very helpful in the detail you are giving can’t wait to put it to the test 👌🏼
I noticed he was always a gear up on you, so where you were in 3rd he was in 4th, is that perhaps a factor? I saw you said his gearing was different as well. I like how you analysed your lap versus Folger and other riders to figure out where your mistakes are. Great videos, keep it up!
Yes, having the engine at higher rpm makes the bike nervous, that's why pros take corners at relatively low rpm (higher gear)
When you lean your motorcycle the rpm will go up due to smaller diameter of the wheel. You can keep it in gear but possibly need to change up by mid way. Shifting up early b4 the corner would drop the rpms but then increase once u lean and you won't need to running out of revs b4 you finish the corner also.
One thing I learned that helped me a lot is like you said about the foot pegs. I used to sit on the bike but I improved by sitting like a horse jockey with my weight on the rear sets. Such a huge difference.
Great video and detail in the differences between the providers and yourself....and you are already at a pretty awesome level
Greetings from Arizona - USA. That was awesome! I just started doing track days and I learned more about the correct body position etc in this video than in anything else. It helps that I actually did 2 track days so I understand what you are talking about but really dig this.
Im from 🇲🇾, already follow you from day 1... its kinda weird watching you in english, since i had been watching you in italian
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There are a lot of yahoo’s out there trying to teach riding and I can pick them apart but you do an excellent job!!! 👍🏽
Alberto, just awesome insights, easy to understand concepts and clear comparisons between yourself and the pro. Loved it! And now subscribed. :). Also dude, you are ENTERTAINING! I know my words sound like an ad for you, but I loved this video that much :). Hope the other ones in your channel don't disappoint.
Awesome video, informative and constantly kept me interested in what you were going to say next
Thanks for Your videos, those are great ! You rly help me with understand how to ride fast !!!!
Dude I love your videos! Keep on going! If you ever come to Berlin, let's ride together! 🙂
Just discovered your channel. love your content. This video is so good. I like your analysis and such a good conclusion about the work you need to do and it is not just following a particular racing line. I really like it that you emphased that because I would not have thought about it the way you did which I think is the correct way to think about the solution to going faster. It is so generous of Jonas to let you film his ride. This is one really good video to come back to again and again. Thanks. Subscribed.
I am over 45 years old and this is the first time I have found a Frenchman to be knowledgeable, useful, and not conceited, or super annoying. You are an ambassador! Awesome video, Thanks.
In fact he is Italian hahah
🤦♂️
He's the most Italian Frenchman you'll ever meet. Even his accent is Italian. 😁
16:30 i think its the angle of his pelvic bone. marc for example always 'pivot' his waist. as if his belly is attached to the tank. so if he leans into a left corner, his waist is facing a little towards the opposite direction, or towards the center of the bike. this position works for him because of his cornering position, almost full body hanging into the corner.
'normal' hanging position means our waist is facing more towards the corner. so it's harder to tuck the toes in, and the ankle goes in instead.
Great explanation, thanks 👍
and also the angles they have in motogp plays a role
Nice video! I can feel more grip when I push my feet into the pegs. I need to work on the butt position.
This was a fascinating and very detailed comparison - thank you! There are so many tiny little things to pay attention to in order to improve.
This is an amazing video! Thank you for it, please keep more coming