When i played vanilla i was a rogue, friend irl was main tank and we rolled wit a paladin and would 3 man live strat for orbs.. They were like 50g a pop for crusader. Made decent money. We were pretty geared, tier 1 and mostly tier 2 gear. Friend would spec arms and was crazy geared. Those were like after raiding for the week he would respec til raid days. It was hella fun.
@@schwann145 Warlocks can solo farm well even priests. The best Warriors can solo farm is SFK and SM Cath. Those farms are like 30 gold an hour. The only ones that struggle like Warriors are Rogues and maybe Paladins and Shamans. Either way every class has their own gold making strategies its just that warriors have to put in the same or more effort to get less gold than most. Charging a tanking tax doesn't make them bad people it just means they value their time and would like to make money in a more social aspect rather than solo farm. Which is fine because people need tanks.
One thing I have to say for rogues and druids is if it was your 1st class ever and you roll another class you will feel incomplete without stealth haha. My main was a rogue in vanilla and I was soo used to stealth on a pvp server that when i rolled a priest i went NE because I felt like a fish outta water without stealth. Soo many group collect type quests I easily soloed and sneaking onto zepplins etc... It's like when you ask someone if they could choose a superpower IRL people would say invisibility. AFKing in stealth on a pvp server to piss,eat or whatever was clutch. Eventually i rerolled to horde in tbc and rolled a shaman and warrior and didnt care but back then it was cool NE priest shadowmelding and MCing people off cliffs,bridges you name it from ab to av.. Or mcing an elite mob to attack a horde player. Hella fun. Initially only rolled a priest after watching a ud priest MCing vid on youtube waaayyyu back in 2006 My vote is rogue next for the class choice! 👍👍
I know this comment was old but I agree, your first char can really dictate how you feel about other chars to follow. My first vanilla 60 was Warr so I was used to everything being hard 😂, then when I proceeded to play other classes I realized how much easier it was 😂
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Slam spec doesn't work as well on classic as on private servers, it resets swing timer so I wouldn't bother. HS/Cleave+hamstring is the way to go when you have +50 rage. Hamstring crits alot so it'll constantly refresh flurry, and it also counts as an auto attack meaning that it can trigger windfury/HoJ/Crusader procs. This will easily make you top dps in raids especially on thrash. And it's really fun as well.
/stopattack /cast slam /startattack Tadaa! You now have a slam macro that doesn't reset weapon swing and will immediately melee once slam is cast. Still generally a worse playstyle than dw fury though, and still being tested on how effective it can actually be in raids.
Your 2H Fury spec for Horde is wrong, as with WF you won't spend talent points in Slam. It resets your swing timer and you're better off spending the points elsewhere. Most 2H Fury warriors on Horde will go BT -> WW and spam Hamstring inbetween to fish for Windfury procs, allowing for heroic strike and cleave as rage allows. Here is a sample talent spec: classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/20305011332-55000005025012051 No Unbridled Wrath as 1 rage gained potentially every swing isn't very useful with a 3.0+ weapon, Booming Voice allows for more rage usage per minute. Imp. Intercept is taken as filler, though I'd normally go 1/1 Piercing Howl and 1/2 Imp Intercept. Early into Classic WoW I'd likely opt for full points into Imp. Overpower rather than just one, this helps provide a crit which helps with keeping flurry uptime going. More swings = More damage = More rage, simple. Obviously only stance dance to Overpower if you aren't wasting a lot of rage to do so. Another preference is to put another point into Imp. Heroic Strike, though I don't see -1 rage vs 1% less 2H weapon damage as being worth the talent point. Everything else, pretty self explanatory. But yeah, just thought you should know.
@@davidlee3107 5 into UW as 2H? Lmao. Rage per minute saved with Booming Voice is higher than what you'd gain from UW. Come back when you know what you're talking about 👍
I leveled a warrior in tbc and switched to prot spec at 62 for the hell of it.. Wow soo good, devastate replaced sunders and did decent damage. Shield slam it hard as fuck. I was loving solo elite quests and just gather larger mobs in general. Off topic I know but a lot of classes got really awesome abilities in tbc. Spell reflect was a god send as a warrior and victory rush was nice to keep grinding more fluid. A macro i always used was /equip twohandweaponname /cast battle stance /cast overpower. Also had one for shield block or mostly spell reflect /equip 1hweapname /equip shieldname /cast defensive stance /cast shieldblock Most times even if those abilities werent up or i had no rage i would spam it for just the weapon swaps.
Its a must in vanilla/classic.. Warriors rage gen was soo shitty in vanilla, mostly auto swing until you can mortal strike or ww and then auto a few times.. It was soo slow paced vs tbc and onwards.
@@Mixwell1983 and yet, warrior were the best dps in Vanilla, and the best tanks. It was due to the designers Blizzard hired, they both played warriors in Everquest.
Fury-prot is very simply, the strongest tank build for threat generation, and arguably therefore the best tank build full stop. Yeah it really sucks to not be able to stance dance. But if you're tanking a raid you simply don't ever need to leave Defensive Stance while in combat.
They nerf spy.. more power to rogues now less to warriors... What I was thinking when I made warrior?? ! Damn you maydie! I am gonna lvl rogue or Hunter f this
While us ally will wait it out for phase 3, because it doesn't matter what you play when you get steamrolled by a fucking 40 man raid, and then corpse camped for 10 hours.
@@rawerwerawerawer1878 Addons work through API in wow, so if blizzard removes a feature from the API then they can limit how some addons function. This time they limited the range that addons can track other players so spy has a lesser range on it.
Just wanted to mention a few things as a warrior since launch, you ALWAYS use retaliation on cleave fights(they share CD's) its more dmg that 3 crists when one of them would have likely crit anyways. So you really only get 2 and take more dmg. Unless its PvP ppl are too smart for that... most of the time. also the meta lvling is arms somewhere from lvl 25 to 30ish 2H fury until 40 then go arms for Ms again. if u wanna lvl FAST. theres other stuff lol maybe i should make my own vids lol
This is a joke... the warrior's mobility in WoW is the reason why they dominate the game. I have never seen a character being both durable and doing so much damage, also be able to teleport around on the battlefield with charge and intercept. Their weakness should be that they can be kited, except that they can't be kited. And they have a fear to disengage or breakup formations. Given that everybody eventually gets a mount and travels at the same speed, I don't understand the low mobility rating. It's a non-factor for warriors when it matters most.
i personally believe Spy addon should be ban, I didn't care at first but now playing a stealth class and learning that human racial ability perception popin it when spy alerts them its kinda fucking lame and now i think it should be ban cause it just kills the element of surprise
Warriors are bad in duels but good at 1 v 1. The difference being consumables.. Even just with chaining engineering/ trinkets and anti cc gear like those mithril boots and no consumables you can win duels against any class except shadow priest
@@bubsenseijebe2993 The range for things being detected in your combat log has been reduced to 50 yards (not sure what the old value was though), as this is the way Spy detects enemies it is an indirect nerf to the addon.
Mihael Vulchev for cleave it’s mostly due to the talent buff cleaves base dmg and not the dmg it does with a weapon. Cleaves dmg comes from the weapon and not the skill it’s self so most see boosting the skills dmg as a waste.
@JORGE ALBERTO NUNEZ FIERRO Basically would alert you whenever an enemy was within 300 meters. Would tell you information like their name class level etc as while as letting you easily target them. It just got nerfed today though since blizzard changed how combat log works in open world
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When i played vanilla i was a rogue, friend irl was main tank and we rolled wit a paladin and would 3 man live strat for orbs.. They were like 50g a pop for crusader. Made decent money. We were pretty geared, tier 1 and mostly tier 2 gear. Friend would spec arms and was crazy geared. Those were like after raiding for the week he would respec til raid days. It was hella fun.
Fuck me I hate those people
@@harrysvensson2610 it's one of the few ways warriors can make gold. Making gold on a warrior solo is a lot harder than most classes in the game.
@@WatermelonJack mages and hunters are great at making gold, but everyone else struggles in their own way. Warriors aren't special in that regard.
@@schwann145 Warlocks can solo farm well even priests. The best Warriors can solo farm is SFK and SM Cath. Those farms are like 30 gold an hour.
The only ones that struggle like Warriors are Rogues and maybe Paladins and Shamans.
Either way every class has their own gold making strategies its just that warriors have to put in the same or more effort to get less gold than most. Charging a tanking tax doesn't make them bad people it just means they value their time and would like to make money in a more social aspect rather than solo farm. Which is fine because people need tanks.
Want to play classic, warrior always been my favorite class. Friends ditched me, I have nobody to play with.
Screw em.. Make new ones. That's what Classic is for.
@@Presence_o_Mind You'd think that
@@PaperiLiidokki I would actually.
I’m down if you’re not a bitch
If we can find more people let’s do a five man warrior party for leveling
13:37 long video, that should say it all.
One thing I have to say for rogues and druids is if it was your 1st class ever and you roll another class you will feel incomplete without stealth haha. My main was a rogue in vanilla and I was soo used to stealth on a pvp server that when i rolled a priest i went NE because I felt like a fish outta water without stealth. Soo many group collect type quests I easily soloed and sneaking onto zepplins etc...
It's like when you ask someone if they could choose a superpower IRL people would say invisibility. AFKing in stealth on a pvp server to piss,eat or whatever was clutch.
Eventually i rerolled to horde in tbc and rolled a shaman and warrior and didnt care but back then it was cool NE priest shadowmelding and MCing people off cliffs,bridges you name it from ab to av.. Or mcing an elite mob to attack a horde player. Hella fun. Initially only rolled a priest after watching a ud priest MCing vid on youtube waaayyyu back in 2006
My vote is rogue next for the class choice! 👍👍
If I could choose a superpower in real life it would be to be able to travel through the internet instantly and slap people that are talking nonsense.
I know this comment was old but I agree, your first char can really dictate how you feel about other chars to follow. My first vanilla 60 was Warr so I was used to everything being hard 😂, then when I proceeded to play other classes I realized how much easier it was 😂
Priest is so strong that dont need stealth
Warlock
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* Custom channels
* Detailed announcements (hp lost after last stand, spell durations, target names with raid marks, etc)
Within my personal opinion "spy" is a cheat. I don't care how many people use it. I don't care how Blizzard allows it's use. It is cheating.
It's my opinion that your opinion is wrong and stupid.
Hmm maybe so . But as a rogue , cheating is kind of my thing 😂
Slam spec doesn't work as well on classic as on private servers, it resets swing timer so I wouldn't bother. HS/Cleave+hamstring is the way to go when you have +50 rage. Hamstring crits alot so it'll constantly refresh flurry, and it also counts as an auto attack meaning that it can trigger windfury/HoJ/Crusader procs. This will easily make you top dps in raids especially on thrash. And it's really fun as well.
/stopattack
/cast slam
/startattack
Tadaa! You now have a slam macro that doesn't reset weapon swing and will immediately melee once slam is cast.
Still generally a worse playstyle than dw fury though, and still being tested on how effective it can actually be in raids.
Nice Mocking Blow tooltip, there :D 7:15
Your 2H Fury spec for Horde is wrong, as with WF you won't spend talent points in Slam. It resets your swing timer and you're better off spending the points elsewhere.
Most 2H Fury warriors on Horde will go BT -> WW and spam Hamstring inbetween to fish for Windfury procs, allowing for heroic strike and cleave as rage allows.
Here is a sample talent spec: classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/20305011332-55000005025012051
No Unbridled Wrath as 1 rage gained potentially every swing isn't very useful with a 3.0+ weapon, Booming Voice allows for more rage usage per minute.
Imp. Intercept is taken as filler, though I'd normally go 1/1 Piercing Howl and 1/2 Imp Intercept.
Early into Classic WoW I'd likely opt for full points into Imp. Overpower rather than just one, this helps provide a crit which helps with keeping flurry uptime going. More swings = More damage = More rage, simple. Obviously only stance dance to Overpower if you aren't wasting a lot of rage to do so.
Another preference is to put another point into Imp. Heroic Strike, though I don't see -1 rage vs 1% less 2H weapon damage as being worth the talent point.
Everything else, pretty self explanatory. But yeah, just thought you should know.
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@@davidlee3107 5 into UW as 2H? Lmao. Rage per minute saved with Booming Voice is higher than what you'd gain from UW.
Come back when you know what you're talking about 👍
This is how you trigger a shitter that parses blue and likes his own comments
@@davidlee3107 Okay buddy boy 👍
This is how you trigger a shitter that parses blue and likes his own comments
A good warrior backed up by a good healer(s) is as close as vanilla gets to god mode
Wonder if he'll do an updated version of these for wrath classic.
Omgg at last the warrior one!! U havr no idea how much I was waiting for this!! Thx!!
Hope you like!
Really like these videos, would love to see a rouge video next time
Sounds good!
There's enough makeup tutorials out there already...
what do you mean, would like to see him cover it because i like his style of videos
7:20 Mocking Blow: 100 mana :hmmmm.jpg:
I leveled a warrior in tbc and switched to prot spec at 62 for the hell of it.. Wow soo good, devastate replaced sunders and did decent damage. Shield slam it hard as fuck. I was loving solo elite quests and just gather larger mobs in general. Off topic I know but a lot of classes got really awesome abilities in tbc. Spell reflect was a god send as a warrior and victory rush was nice to keep grinding more fluid.
A macro i always used was
/equip twohandweaponname
/cast battle stance
/cast overpower.
Also had one for shield block or mostly spell reflect
/equip 1hweapname
/equip shieldname
/cast defensive stance
/cast shieldblock
Most times even if those abilities werent up or i had no rage i would spam it for just the weapon swaps.
I agree on prot/fury without tact. mastery warrior feels like a lesser wsrrior imo. Played it a lot never got in to it.
Its a must in vanilla/classic.. Warriors rage gen was soo shitty in vanilla, mostly auto swing until you can mortal strike or ww and then auto a few times.. It was soo slow paced vs tbc and onwards.
@@Mixwell1983 and yet, warrior were the best dps in Vanilla, and the best tanks. It was due to the designers Blizzard hired, they both played warriors in Everquest.
Fury-prot is very simply, the strongest tank build for threat generation, and arguably therefore the best tank build full stop. Yeah it really sucks to not be able to stance dance. But if you're tanking a raid you simply don't ever need to leave Defensive Stance while in combat.
Rogue, cuz ofcourse rogue.
Would you ever consider revisiting these for WotLK?
did they patch sitting down to get critted in classic server? so u can proc enrage+blood craze?
Good job mate, I like your videos, I'm still waiting mostly for the mage episode tho
but there is a mage episode already
@@ashrasmun1 There isn't
I would like a mage too since I started one
Tauren with Charge and Stomp :D
13:37
You know I didnt actually notice until I had uploaded it lol
Warlock please! Great video!
The thing i hate about item rack is that it will wait for you to be out of combat to switch your gear EVEN FOR WEAPON >
Well then make a macro just for weap swaps. Cant change gear in combat.. Nothing new
They nerf spy.. more power to rogues now less to warriors... What I was thinking when I made warrior?? ! Damn you maydie!
I am gonna lvl rogue or Hunter f this
While us ally will wait it out for phase 3, because it doesn't matter what you play when you get steamrolled by a fucking 40 man raid, and then corpse camped for 10 hours.
how is it posible to nerf a addon i dont understand=
player make it not blizard
@@rawerwerawerawer1878 Addons work through API in wow, so if blizzard removes a feature from the API then they can limit how some addons function. This time they limited the range that addons can track other players so spy has a lesser range on it.
Rogue please
I like the fact the video is 13:37min long 👌
Play the undead so you wont die from drowning..
Mage would be noice
Just wanted to mention a few things as a warrior since launch, you ALWAYS use retaliation on cleave fights(they share CD's) its more dmg that 3 crists when one of them would have likely crit anyways. So you really only get 2 and take more dmg. Unless its PvP ppl are too smart for that... most of the time. also the meta lvling is arms somewhere from lvl 25 to 30ish 2H fury until 40 then go arms for Ms again. if u wanna lvl FAST. theres other stuff lol maybe i should make my own vids lol
Retaliation on cleave fights, doesn't really work unless multiple mobs are hitting you, you would never use it over reck in raids.
I use retaliation to pull 3 mobs at once pve or to save my ass against 3 mobs who aggro on me
Rogue next!
We need the masters of shadow next!
:/ no pvp advice? thats lame
8:22 orc with kings buff? Or icon used for something else?
Orb of deception most likely
*YES FINALLY*
Well I'm a masochist so I'll do a fury build in hardcore
This is a joke... the warrior's mobility in WoW is the reason why they dominate the game. I have never seen a character being both durable and doing so much damage, also be able to teleport around on the battlefield with charge and intercept. Their weakness should be that they can be kited, except that they can't be kited. And they have a fear to disengage or breakup formations. Given that everybody eventually gets a mount and travels at the same speed, I don't understand the low mobility rating. It's a non-factor for warriors when it matters most.
lock next
55 talent points :thinking:
WARLOCK
Do mage... and don't forget the mage tank
warlock pls
Charge people to tank dungeons and use the money to buy free action potions otherwise you're mage food.
Or just play prot pala and AoE farm, warrior sucks anyway as solo class.
please do wl next
Warlock!
i personally believe Spy addon should be ban, I didn't care at first but now playing a stealth class and learning that human racial ability perception popin it when spy alerts them its kinda fucking lame and now i think it should be ban cause it just kills the element of surprise
mage next
video is 13:37. confirmed warriors are leet
rofl breh
I'm thinking about making a hunter, do hunter next!
Warrior with BoF = unstopable murder machine
T O U C H
M Y
W I L L E
Rogue mate plz Rogue that's my main :D
>not taking the well timed mace stun for pvp
o_o
Great video, but fuck spy. I'm not supporting that add-on and I'm a warrior.
Warlock then rogue and mage last
How has it taken me this many episodes to notice that "classes" is incorrect in the context of the title?
Poopscipade I am pretty sure that he did that on purpose.
Warriors are bad in duels but good at 1 v 1. The difference being consumables.. Even just with chaining engineering/ trinkets and anti cc gear like those mithril boots and no consumables you can win duels against any class except shadow priest
Go rouge
Mageu
Mage
Beefy tanks represent
hit a likee for that 1337
Why does the tool tip for mocking blow say 100 mana. What is this mystic magic water juice thing you pesky casters call mana?
Eric Niederer I noticed that the rogue has skills that say they cost mana instead of energy too.
me tank
Disliked for promoting Spy Add-on.
First xD
spy needs to b removed the same way the LFG addon was
It just got indirectly nerfed today lol
@@Rathial what they do to it? It feels the same to me
@@bubsenseijebe2993 The range for things being detected in your combat log has been reduced to 50 yards (not sure what the old value was though), as this is the way Spy detects enemies it is an indirect nerf to the addon.
Liiva1 It used to be a way longer range but I am not sure exactly how much longer.
Why include all the clips of pulling too many mobs and dying?
It's the Warrior experience.
First? *Flosses profusely*
hate noob wars that don't have 1 point into overpower and 2 in cleave just make me sad and angry in same time how bad they are.
Mihael Vulchev for cleave it’s mostly due to the talent buff cleaves base dmg and not the dmg it does with a weapon. Cleaves dmg comes from the weapon and not the skill it’s self so most see boosting the skills dmg as a waste.
Unsubbed for promoting Spy addon, disgusting
@JORGE ALBERTO NUNEZ FIERRO Basically would alert you whenever an enemy was within 300 meters. Would tell you information like their name class level etc as while as letting you easily target them. It just got nerfed today though since blizzard changed how combat log works in open world
@JORGE ALBERTO NUNEZ FIERRO yes
It seems like something other than the Spy addon has been triggered.
Rogue please