Punkrat I gotta say, that throughout my classic experience this time around I went warrior to really be toxic to myself lol but I gotta sincerely thank you for your videos. I have been using them throughout my leveling and plan to keep doing so into raid content! Keep up the great work man!
I love warrior. Just run dungeons to stay geared its so east to find groups it makes questing and pvp a breeze (except against mages) getting ice reflector today.
Just got deathbringer last night! And a quick strike ring two weeks ago! That felwood flower buff is nuts! Gonna make sure I have that and JuJus for next raid!
Warriors being both top tier tanks and DPS really does show that the "Healing, buffs and dispells only" roles for other Hybrids was a result of poor planning (and yes Tank-DPS is as much a hybrid as Heals-DPS)
It seems like 1 and 2 equals you don't get 3 isn't the best strat for classes. Or maybe they broke the game when they put up a wall and said from now on, we are working on TBC, and anything now is being left for the expansion.
Any warrior worth his salt will realise that the bonereaver's edge (from ragnaros) with a 2h fury build (without slam) will outshine any of these dual wielders. BRE is overpowered to hell, sure you can replace it was th a stronger weapon but it's stacking buff on you can't be found anywhere else, with tanks or dual wielders using annihilator this further increases as the BRE proc applies it's buff on you and not the boss / target. Only needing 9 percent hit is a godsend too, with higher crit you won't even need to take imp overpower, literally stay in beserker stance forever. It goes without saying horde have it so much better with WF but alliance 2h fury slamless builds do incredible DPS, way more than dual wielders.
Need to add, just in case this is actually read that a good starting weapon for this that works amazing for human warriors is the obsidian edged blade (42 str and +7 2h sword skill giving you that extra glancing blow damage and more rage). The rotation is pretty standard but do note if you take imp cleave then the burst is real, 2h fury burst is stupidly insane given enough crit. Take imp overpower til you get around 30-33% crit. another thing worth noting that dual wield doesn't get massive benefits from flurry on classic in that flurry works differently to that of private servers. Flurry only takes charges away from you with white hits, parries and misses, yellow hits don't take a charge from you, meaning you can get way more attacks off with flurry still up than a dual wielder can, hence the 30-33% crit I mentioned prior to practically get 100% uptime within the allotted time flurry lasts. The 9% hit instead of the usual 11-14 most dual wielders go for means you can focus on crit and AP / str. 2h fury gives you so many more options for gear because of this.
Warrior with the top logs switches to dual wield in single target because it's better then his BRE, BRE is good in MC because it has a bunch of fights with cleave with non boss level mobs, dual wield with 305+ weapon skill is better single target, BRE proc is mostly wasted because the boss armor will be really low with the right debuffs. Also with heroic strike queuing you don't want hit rating past the yellow damage hit cap, 2h and dual wield fury gear is the same now.
I just hit 40. Playing super casually. Maybe 3hrs a day. Mostly questing. Actually scratch that....Mostly running fucking everywhere for 2 hrs a day. 1 hr actually doing stuff.
I need to know if protection warriors need the hit or not. I'm attempting to go for the 6% hit as orc axes. Need that threat generation for initial pulls so we need that right?
As a human DW warrior, if BT and WW is on CD.. What do I do when I'm under 60 Rage? Spam Hamstring? Or cast one heroic strike and do auto attacks till BT or WW are ready again?
is not being capped at 308, BUT after 308 or 310 not sure, each weapon skill translates into less hit rate and increasingly so. Meaning, suppose you get 1% hit from each skill point, after you exceed let's say 308, you will be getting less than 1%, let's say 0.7 for 309 and 0.07 for 315 (those are just some random numbers, you gotta check the exact ones. Which makes it not that valuable to stack weapon skill after certain point
Hey man, love your videos! Could you help me with some tips? I am currently having a hard time chosing between Shadow or a Lock as my first Vanilla Character. I'll be doing mostly random bgs with friends, but I would like something that could shine in BGS, get some Kills, an overall good class for Bg... What would you suggest?
you say heroic strike is enhancing?. I don't understand what is enhancing about doing slightly more damage on a swing but not getting any rage. Seems more like a trade off as apposed to an enhancement.
Havent watches the video yet but somewhere along the lines i spent 16 hours this weekend farming HOJ and SGC with my warrior friend. Hope thats in the vid becuase hes a beast now
@@Punkrat I'm trying to confirm this myself also, my understanding is that orc warriors want edgemasters and cloud keeper legplates instead of devilsaur set because the axe skill combined is more meaningful for orcs.
So alot of this video has been proven wrong, with 1% auto negative to crit/hit, as well as the heroic strike que makes your off hand attack as a yellow thing.
Yeah hit is way less valuable than previously believed and alot of the info he is referencing is from private servers. Still a decent vid but some of it is out of date now.
@ThisIsWhyImEz so it was believed to be a bug but a blue on the official forums confirmed it was by design that while you have heroic strike/cleave qued up your off hand attacks as tho it was a yellow attack, this removes the dual weild/off hand penalty, meaning you only need 9% hit /6% hit with 305 weapon skill to make your off hand not miss from behind while heroic strike and cleave are qued up. Now alot of us have macros that que and then cancel the cast so you can control the timing of your off hand swing to make sure it hits
@ThisIsWhyImEz correct to both questions, on hs vs cleave threat as well as tha /stopcasting. Dw is better than 2h fury in most cases, horde it becomes a little more viable because of windfury and hamstring spam.
Past a certain point of gear. 2h Fury stays around for a little bit at the beginning of a server because of lack of hit. From what I understand, it tends to stick around juuust a little bit longer for Horde than Alliance simply because of WF.
should probably make it more apparent just how important hit % is.....DW Fury is pointless at the early stage of raiding as no ones going to be near to the required amount of hit% for it to out-perform 2h arms (which does surprisingly well, more than mid-tier imo if competing vs other similar geared players).
I think the war can be the meanest bad as in the game but he is also the hardest to use as I had a warrior for a few year back in 2005 to 7 and I was shit in all specs I got my ass kicked all the time and blamed it on the warrior being shit and I changed to a pala and started beating horde warriors 4 levels above me no problem and I thought yeah that confirms it the warrior is shit but really I was just a shit player because I watched a video of a horde taurine war in the arenas and he beat every other class and not just beat but destroyed and done things I thought was impossible for a warrior to do and then I realised the warrior is the best but you have to be an exceptional player to get the warrior to fight to his true potential and my hat is off to that guy who was a god with that taurine warrior
You have some misinformation here. For example, you never ever ever want to use a sharpening stone in a raid, because it will override a windfury totem's buff.
im a new player and this is fucking insane too much information to take in all at once im so used to my 4 button rotation i guess ill just worry about this late game
If you saw the vid he explained it. 7% hit is just for yellow dmg so abilities. All of your misses are prob coming from autoattacks which hit cap around 27%
I never played much retail and never played classic when it was out so I started watching him when I started playing classic but after a week of playing and learning about the game I was like wow this dude is trash and an asshole
Vred sorry for asking nooby questions but what does DW stand for? And what are glancing blows? The bis gear guide on wowhead says to aim for the 9% hit from gear and then to maybe prioritize crit% or other stats over hit%
warbreakr dw = dual wield. Glancing blows are strikes that land but do reduced damage and are affected by hit. The reason they say 9% bc its thats what you need to land your abilities without missing. However, like the video says most of your damage comes from auto attacks. Its also expected that youll have a pve race that has +5 weapon skill which adds another 3%~hit. If you’re playing without weapon skill racials, you should consider edgemasters and will benefit from around 12~ hit prior to getting them.
I went with the jack of all trades build which was really popular in Vanilla 30/5/15. What is a dps rotation for an arms warrior using that build? I have no idea what the rotation for arms looks like. Can you help me out?
5:35 is factually incorrect by the way. Heroic strike generates just as much threat as cleave, albeit providing lower damage. It also costs less rage than cleave. Never use cleave single target.
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This is the first time ive seen the cleave picture up close. All these years I thought it was a parrot.
Matthew Labban lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i had to squint my eyes to see it but now it cant be unseen
I have always thought this ahaha
I literally thought it was a hook or horn until just now wow.
wait what hahaha
R.O.I.D.S from Badlands are actually from Blasted Lands
Punkrat I gotta say, that throughout my classic experience this time around I went warrior to really be toxic to myself lol but I gotta sincerely thank you for your videos. I have been using them throughout my leveling and plan to keep doing so into raid content! Keep up the great work man!
Wth me 2 xd
watching your videos leading upto classics re relase was such a good summer. Your background music brings me back to 2019
Youre jealous of us warriors? DO YOU KNOW WHAT WEVE BEEN THROUGH?
i know that lionheart helm shouldnt be out yet
Mildly jealous of the fact they can do two roles at optimal levels while other "Hybrids" are stuck healing.
hahahahahahahahahahaha ooooh my God I'm still 45 and going through it
S.a A through what??
I love warrior. Just run dungeons to stay geared its so east to find groups it makes questing and pvp a breeze (except against mages) getting ice reflector today.
"Hey guys. So endgame is finally here!.."
*looks at my login screen of every class at 20*
...yeah...
Feels
Well its the same but im having so much fun
Three level 20's and you have one level 60. That's just math.
@@jamestrahan1421 Except the halfway point XP wise is about lvl 47 IIRC 😂
@@renyen9752 might aswell not play at that point
When i have to wake up at the ass crack of dawn i can always count on a Chunkrat video to get me through the morning.
I love watching the warrior videos! Fun to compare to what I do, and to get new ideas of what to do next!
Just got deathbringer last night! And a quick strike ring two weeks ago!
That felwood flower buff is nuts! Gonna make sure I have that and JuJus for next raid!
Warriors being both top tier tanks and DPS really does show that the "Healing, buffs and dispells only" roles for other Hybrids was a result of poor planning (and yes Tank-DPS is as much a hybrid as Heals-DPS)
It seems like 1 and 2 equals you don't get 3 isn't the best strat for classes.
Or maybe they broke the game when they put up a wall and said from now on, we are working on TBC, and anything now is being left for the expansion.
One more thing about the Hamstring ability. Is that it slows enemies. Which is great when people are jumping all over the place.
That hamstring spamming is a really nice addition for later raiding to get more autoattacks 😁👍🏼
Thanks for your Great Videos Punk!
Yellow hits require 9% hit rating btw, not the 8% from private servers.
Other than that nice video, keep it up.
makin a guide and gets the numbers wrong :P
You always have 1% chance to miss.
@Wrong Think classic.wowhead.com/news=292085/hit-cap-in-classic-wow-clarifications?webhook
U were saying? :D
I've literally never played wow I'm starting tommorow and this has literally just blew my brains. I have no idea about anything he just said lol
i started 2,5 months ago and now im always on top 5 dps on all raids
How you liking it?
i actually just started playing wow for the first time and im in the same boat. watching videos for tips and im completely lost.
Thanks Punkrat - would love one of these for hunters as well!
Just weave shots : Autoshot - aimed shot - Autoshot - multi shot - Autoshot ....
weres the link to the pre-raid bis list ??? nice video though :D gief link :D:D:D
descriptionas
i miss you punkrat
Nice! Would love to see similar videos for other classes too.
Erik Eklund it’s pointless for any other class than Rogue in this phase.
Been Dualwield tanking already! Its soo much fun!
Me too for dungeons at least! Not a raid tank so topping meters instead :) Warriors are the best
Another reason hamstring is good and that it's even a higher priority than heroic is because it can crit and trigger flurry for cheap
Dont forget about the crusader procs! Also BRE stacks.
“FURY WARRIORS NEED ALL THEIR COOLDOWNS!”
Im enjoying your vids keep up the great work.
This is like the 3rd video where "ill link the pre-raid bis list" but never posted.
Do a shaman DPS episode!!!
Any warrior worth his salt will realise that the bonereaver's edge (from ragnaros) with a 2h fury build (without slam) will outshine any of these dual wielders. BRE is overpowered to hell, sure you can replace it was th a stronger weapon but it's stacking buff on you can't be found anywhere else, with tanks or dual wielders using annihilator this further increases as the BRE proc applies it's buff on you and not the boss / target.
Only needing 9 percent hit is a godsend too, with higher crit you won't even need to take imp overpower, literally stay in beserker stance forever.
It goes without saying horde have it so much better with WF but alliance 2h fury slamless builds do incredible DPS, way more than dual wielders.
Need to add, just in case this is actually read that a good starting weapon for this that works amazing for human warriors is the obsidian edged blade (42 str and +7 2h sword skill giving you that extra glancing blow damage and more rage).
The rotation is pretty standard but do note if you take imp cleave then the burst is real, 2h fury burst is stupidly insane given enough crit. Take imp overpower til you get around 30-33% crit.
another thing worth noting that dual wield doesn't get massive benefits from flurry on classic in that flurry works differently to that of private servers. Flurry only takes charges away from you with white hits, parries and misses, yellow hits don't take a charge from you, meaning you can get way more attacks off with flurry still up than a dual wielder can, hence the 30-33% crit I mentioned prior to practically get 100% uptime within the allotted time flurry lasts.
The 9% hit instead of the usual 11-14 most dual wielders go for means you can focus on crit and AP / str. 2h fury gives you so many more options for gear because of this.
Warrior with the top logs switches to dual wield in single target because it's better then his BRE, BRE is good in MC because it has a bunch of fights with cleave with non boss level mobs, dual wield with 305+ weapon skill is better single target, BRE proc is mostly wasted because the boss armor will be really low with the right debuffs.
Also with heroic strike queuing you don't want hit rating past the yellow damage hit cap, 2h and dual wield fury gear is the same now.
hey men did I missed the pre-BIS list in the description or maybe you forgot. keep the awesome work dude
Caio Kzan he mentioned it
Still waiting some axes to drop as an orc, did the Lionheart grind but fuck i'm not doing the titanic leggings grind.
hey have been looking for that weauk aura that says: Use overpower now... where can i find it
same
If Y'all still need it turn on combat text in the UI options it'll tell overpower revenge any of the abilities that have those similar requirements
What about a series for all the classes in classic?
"How To Top DPS As a In Classic WoW"
because you cant
Lol because if you aren't a Warrior, Mage or Rogue you won't be top dps...it's not balanced like expansions.
3:57 no I think HoJ just procs whatever ability you used it to get the proc with, so hamstring procs hamstring
It's just an extra auto attack hit, same as thrash blade
Good video man!
What ever happened to punkrat?
You only had 75k subs as a wow streamer but 1.5 MILLION as a pro Trump guy! Congratulations!
BTW, "we've" made it to endgame? 😜 yaa not normal people haha
I'm lvl 20
Darren of Earth I’m still in Elwynn Forest
Nudiggity im still in fuckin ashenvale
I just hit 40. Playing super casually. Maybe 3hrs a day. Mostly questing. Actually scratch that....Mostly running fucking everywhere for 2 hrs a day. 1 hr actually doing stuff.
lvl 31 here
I need to know if protection warriors need the hit or not. I'm attempting to go for the 6% hit as orc axes. Need that threat generation for initial pulls so we need that right?
Can't believe you're not a warrior yet this video was so educational thank you so much!
I too have stances on 4, wow
Cleave still does extra threat, just less than Heroic strike
Hey mate, awesome video. Could you link the BiS list you were talking about? :)
As a human DW warrior, if BT and WW is on CD.. What do I do when I'm under 60 Rage? Spam Hamstring? Or cast one heroic strike and do auto attacks till BT or WW are ready again?
Is there a Dr.Damage Version or alternative addon to show melee DMG / caster DMG on spells in action bar?
Will you do a video on fury bis for phase 2?
Some 1 told me there was a blue post stating that wep skill was maxed at 308 instead of 315 making edgemasters useless 4 humans .. True or not ?
would like to know this as well actually.
is not being capped at 308, BUT after 308 or 310 not sure, each weapon skill translates into less hit rate and increasingly so. Meaning, suppose you get 1% hit from each skill point, after you exceed let's say 308, you will be getting less than 1%, let's say 0.7 for 309 and 0.07 for 315 (those are just some random numbers, you gotta check the exact ones. Which makes it not that valuable to stack weapon skill after certain point
Correct timing on queueing up heroic strike was what was holding me back. Now I'm a boss.
What ui addon is that for your health/rage bar?
HIT VERY HARD!!
-Orc Warrior
Hey man, love your videos! Could you help me with some tips? I am currently having a hard time chosing between Shadow or a Lock as my first Vanilla Character. I'll be doing mostly random bgs with friends, but I would like something that could shine in BGS, get some Kills, an overall good class for Bg... What would you suggest?
you say heroic strike is enhancing?. I don't understand what is enhancing about doing slightly more damage on a swing but not getting any rage. Seems more like a trade off as apposed to an enhancement.
What addon would you suggest that lets me know when Overpower Procs Ive downloaded a Weak Aura but it doesnt work when im in berserker stance
davgre975 following haha
Omin cc works well but not with dominos UI
I think you can do it in settings
The addon is called classic spell activation. Also, use #showtooltip Overpower in your macro
Blizzs combat text ingame works fine for me. No addon required
slam stop my swing
Havent watches the video yet but somewhere along the lines i spent 16 hours this weekend farming HOJ and SGC with my warrior friend. Hope thats in the vid becuase hes a beast now
its pretty easy to make elemental sharpener stone u say !! yea yea if u have bot farm for you its easy
How to dps on a warrior? Have Windfury my friends
where is the preraid bis list?
Edgemasters are actually BIS for orcs also due to the +7 axe skill...
not exactly, you cant benefit from multiple +weapon skill bonuses from my understanding.
Punkrat you sure dude? Every bis list has them as bis orcs included
@@brainlet5353 not 100% sure, but its what i read in prep for this video. I could be wrong ofc.
@@Punkrat I'm trying to confirm this myself also, my understanding is that orc warriors want edgemasters and cloud keeper legplates instead of devilsaur set because the axe skill combined is more meaningful for orcs.
Hey punkrat, I saw you in Ironforge, I waved at you.
Only two buttons on your mouse? BAH I have 7!!!
To this day Vike is still out DPS'ing polzi.
did anyone bother adding up the crit% after all those buffs and eq?
You usually woudn't go for any of those specs cuz of deep wounds debuff problems
deep wounds is not a problem as i gets replaced by stronger debuffs automatically
So alot of this video has been proven wrong, with 1% auto negative to crit/hit, as well as the heroic strike que makes your off hand attack as a yellow thing.
Yeah hit is way less valuable than previously believed and alot of the info he is referencing is from private servers. Still a decent vid but some of it is out of date now.
@ThisIsWhyImEz so it was believed to be a bug but a blue on the official forums confirmed it was by design that while you have heroic strike/cleave qued up your off hand attacks as tho it was a yellow attack, this removes the dual weild/off hand penalty, meaning you only need 9% hit /6% hit with 305 weapon skill to make your off hand not miss from behind while heroic strike and cleave are qued up. Now alot of us have macros that que and then cancel the cast so you can control the timing of your off hand swing to make sure it hits
@ThisIsWhyImEz correct to both questions, on hs vs cleave threat as well as tha /stopcasting. Dw is better than 2h fury in most cases, horde it becomes a little more viable because of windfury and hamstring spam.
What about 2h fury as horde? Is dw better?
Past a certain point of gear. 2h Fury stays around for a little bit at the beginning of a server because of lack of hit. From what I understand, it tends to stick around juuust a little bit longer for Horde than Alliance simply because of WF.
So for dos wear mail and not plate !?
Dps*
@@magictankz8181 Even leather in some instances
should probably make it more apparent just how important hit % is.....DW Fury is pointless at the early stage of raiding as no ones going to be near to the required amount of hit% for it to out-perform 2h arms (which does surprisingly well, more than mid-tier imo if competing vs other similar geared players).
can any1 tell me whats that buff that looks like a star ruby?
Don't use any sharpening stones on Horde side, WF buff shares the weapon buff slot with the sharpening stone.
its called off hand weapon, i mentioned that already. did u even watch the video? xD
@@Punkrat hey man, just for those 2 Handed Fury warriors out there! I must have missed that part where you said Off Hand, my bad!
What the mod that lets you know when to use overpower and shows on your screen
You can turn on combat text in the ui options if you still need it
No pre raid bis link in disc
I think the war can be the meanest bad as in the game but he is also the hardest to use as I had a warrior for a few year back in 2005 to 7 and I was shit in all specs I got my ass kicked all the time and blamed it on the warrior being shit and I changed to a pala and started beating horde warriors 4 levels above me no problem and I thought yeah that confirms it the warrior is shit but really I was just a shit player because I watched a video of a horde taurine war in the arenas and he beat every other class and not just beat but destroyed and done things I thought was impossible for a warrior to do and then I realised the warrior is the best but you have to be an exceptional player to get the warrior to fight to his true potential and my hat is off to that guy who was a god with that taurine warrior
hey guys punkratwiddanuddavideo
what kind of site is he using 6:43
That royalty free music makes me want to die
its 9% hit btw
20 agi = 1% crit.
16 agi = 0.7% crit???
You have some misinformation here.
For example, you never ever ever want to use a sharpening stone in a raid, because it will override a windfury totem's buff.
**If dual wielding** You can use a stone on your OH. Windfury only hits the MH.
Sharpening stone for the off hand or both weapons for alliance.
good video
im a new player and this is fucking insane too much information to take in all at once im so used to my 4 button rotation i guess ill just worry about this late game
I have dwarf 60 fury with 9% hit chance but he miss many hit like a god.. why?
If you saw the vid he explained it. 7% hit is just for yellow dmg so abilities. All of your misses are prob coming from autoattacks which hit cap around 27%
@@chaurand4 OHHH That is new info for me thanks! :D
The craps that we us warriors have to go though...
music in the background was so chill whats the beat from
Is dual that much better than 2H axe?
yea
Question : can you make a video about twinks plz :P
Not at all a concern until phase 3. Could see some info on what items to keep hold of for that phase.
@@IRdatank do you imply not to have your bis9 ready to go asap?
Asmongold is still trash tho
actual noob
Fact
I smell some real fan bois here
I never played much retail and never played classic when it was out so I started watching him when I started playing classic but after a week of playing and learning about the game I was like wow this dude is trash and an asshole
@@trot34lol Same here. McConnell is cool af tho
Fury or Arms warrior for maximum dps (and raid potential)?
Fury dual weild if you have 12~% to hit via gear.
@@Andres9632 whut? 9% is the hit cap
warbreakr no. 9% is the bare minimum to always land abilities. 27% is the hit cap with DW. More hit means fewer glancing blows and fewer misses.
Vred sorry for asking nooby questions but what does DW stand for? And what are glancing blows? The bis gear guide on wowhead says to aim for the 9% hit from gear and then to maybe prioritize crit% or other stats over hit%
warbreakr dw = dual wield. Glancing blows are strikes that land but do reduced damage and are affected by hit. The reason they say 9% bc its thats what you need to land your abilities without missing. However, like the video says most of your damage comes from auto attacks. Its also expected that youll have a pve race that has +5 weapon skill which adds another 3%~hit.
If you’re playing without weapon skill racials, you should consider edgemasters and will benefit from around 12~ hit prior to getting them.
Liberal hivemind?????
Oh here's one more: warriors scale harder than Alex Honold did in Free Solo.
I went with the jack of all trades build which was really popular in Vanilla 30/5/15. What is a dps rotation for an arms warrior using that build? I have no idea what the rotation for arms looks like. Can you help me out?
Fire mages?
Do dps for rogues!!!
Make the same guide für mages pls!
So I'm assuming the first 10s is u slamming your face against the keyboard. What do you use ther rest of the time for?
Warriors and paladins running around with leather....makes me laugh, and PISSED! Stop rolling on my fucking leather!
LFG WARR DPS/TANK
Damn right I'm arms, wtf is this fury bs
Aren't plate is better than mail ?
5:35 is factually incorrect by the way. Heroic strike generates just as much threat as cleave, albeit providing lower damage. It also costs less rage than cleave. Never use cleave single target.
Spec fury, auto atk, gets so much rage every atk is a heroic strike...
3.25 crit
i'm still on level 25 XD
how to max dps? 2h fury cleave whirlwind build. xD
All the top parses are dual wield warriors even on cleave fights, 2h fury is not nearly as good as dual wield.
I know this will be taken as a meme, but can you do it for Druid?
Look at skarms druid vids. Hes done the druid main tank in raids and two different feral dps rotos