@golden memes no it does not, that's where the feign into trap macro comes in. SS is a set up so you can run in for the FD trap regain range follow up with Aim shot into auto into multi for a nice burst combo.
@@goldenmemes51 consider SS your gouge for a rogue , a set up for restealth or in this case full trap, so you can stuff the Aimed down his or her throat. Especially you add in clever traps. You could bandage in his face and move back for aimed multi burst combo
I’ve been maining a hunter since the start of classic and I don’t regret it at all. By far the best range of any class maybe side by side with the mage or even a little better. And the physical range damage is just insane. After I finally perfected DM north tribute runs the class became a lot easier and I completely learned how to kite. Best tips I can give is don’t multi-shot when cc is active (poly, sleeps, etc). ALWAYS dismiss your pet when jumping off of a ledge within a dungeon. Know when to switch between different aspects based on the scenario. Don’t be afraid to FD to reset threat, this will save you! Learn your traps well and what situations require which trap. Always be aware of where your standing and never EVER walk backwards! Instead just strafe sideways or run forwards while looking back with camera when kiting. Best of luck ;)
A lot of matchup mentions forget to mention that you can have a massive range advantage with talents. Stay at max range, and few can even get close enough for a ranged ability. If you have a feel for max range, you become incredibly frustrating to bother with.
Oh... Back when I started to play WoW in when patch 1.9 was released and I got gifted with WoW copy and 2 months of sub time. I spend like 2 months leveling all classes till the 30's, but I decide to be the hunter class. In my eyes and feelings this class depends on you and your skills. If you are bad player, then you are bad as a hunter. This class learnt me to be more self-aware of my surroundings and to use the terrain as my advantage and that motion is my friend both in PvP and PvE. My realm back then was Sylvanas PvP EU when Vurtne was the hero of the Horde pvp scene and he was kind of inspiration for me 😁
@@Pwnage-Variety I think the idea was to give an overal idea about the matchups. Most people would probably have found the video to be more boring with a in-depth look at the hunters toolkit vs each class. This seemed to me to be a good middle ground tbh.
Probably gonna be jumping into vanilla in a day or two, and I'm gonna recreate my first character that I made during tbc, my Tauren beast master hunter with an alpha wolf pet.
Nice! Been Streaming on RUclips My Lvling Experience on my hunter, will deff be doing some PvP. I'm lv 34 atm, but recently rerolled from a horde 60 troll to an alliance night elf. I went to a PST Server + my friends quit (classic to hard) syndrome lol.
Tip for you hunters in the dire maul clip he shared you go up where your pet is have your pet down on the very bottom of the ramp have your pet started out and you ripped back or you have so much more time to dump damage. using the method that I just said is how I was able to get my runs down to 10 minutes
I played on classic for a month as a troll hunter. Had to cancel my subscription so I can focus on college. Once I am done I will come back, but this time roll my hunter on a PvP server. Can't wait!
hunter vs rogue is easy matchup, your whole kit is made for this. you forgot to mention something very important and that is track hidden which makes them basicly unable to open on you
Ive mained a hunter since right b4 TBC released back in the day and again in classic. the biggest mistake that i keep seeing my fellow hunters do while in dungeon groups is leaving "Growl" on auto-cast. turn that shit off. we got wiped in deadmines because a dwarf hunter kept pulling mobs off the tank, and when his pet died, so did he and everyone else because tank couldn't regain aggro. please fellow hunters, its a simple right click on the ability to disable auto-cast on it. it might be nice while solo, but do not, do not have it on when grouped. i put "cower" on autocast in groups, use that instead, your tank will thank you.
Nice video overall, but no mention of Track Hidden in the Hunter vs Rogue Matchup? It's game changing you can see a similar level rogue in stealth from 20 yds+ with Track Hidden up
good old times, I played till TBC, had 2 hunter on lvl 70 (and a few other chars, but hunter is always my fav) then playing on private server I played 4 hunter again, 2 to lvl 60 and the other two till lvl 40 (switching sides and then quit)
BC man. BC BM hunter with leather working drums and trinket and gem only resilience or at least mixed with on pvp gear. I literally good fight 3 to 4 players and tank em with my face because I COULD NOT BE STOPPED UNLESS KILLED. For duration with all that other stacked shit, i broke the game back then,. It was ridiculously hard to CC me.
As a feral druid that is really annoying to deal with, not impossible though. You just shift out as the cast is about to finish, and then shift back in. It costs a lot of mana to keep doing this, but powershifting as a druid will let you maintain damage if you trait right.
After the latest 'hotfix' hunter soloing is pretty much done...as in broken. Not to mention feign death and trap still being busted thanks to spell batching. Pet too. Wouldve been better if you visited the bug forums and made a video about these things instead of trying to hype it up in its current broken state.
While I agree on Feign Death and Trap being an issue (and would like to include the short-lived patches where scatter and trap shared a DR into that), what's the issue with soloing exactly? I've been running DM Tribute solo consistently as recently as 5 minutes ago.
both solo farm dungeons, as in DM trib and mara princess are still easily soloable. I am not sure what you are refering to. FD can be a real bitch, I agree, but if you struggle to solo the notoriously known hunter solo dungeons, then the issue lies with you and not some hotfix
Hunter is really the ultimate noob class, and i don't say that in any bad way, the hunter playstyle is hard to mess up when you are solo. if your pet dies and you suck, so do you. but you always have that fd option to not only save you a tone of gold on repair bills. but also give you a fast re-do this fight option . much less frustration to play as a first timer than any other class.
@@huppupappa1637 I was thinking of stats. They have the biggest mana pool due to the extra intellect, and they don't have ugly bones sticking through their robes like the Forsaken.
@@DrPluton If I had to choose between looking like a gnome in real life and dying in a fire, I would go with dying in a fire. And if I was forced to faction/race change my undead mage into a gnome mage, I would stop playing.
Talks about countering druids and doesnt even mention scare beast. Druids can be annoying but unless they get the jump hunters really shouldnt be losing. The real problem for hunters comes from locks...like most classes lol (bruh, as I keep watching he says Palis can be difficult cause they can hit u hard...they cant touch you, ever, they have no range gap besides 1 stun, you have more than enough to recreate range gap over and over again) ok then brings up scare beast in the mirror where the time casting it will get u killed, even using aimed in the mirror period is dumb unless there trapped cause of feign and u can kill due to high damage without using rather quick...this dude dont play a hunter (ima fan tho)
Worst pvp class in the game Dead zone ( great against blinkers and chargers) Crap CC. Useless when you get slowed If you get to far shaman priest will heal if you get too close u get dotted to death . No piercing attacks va armoured. Cant remove dots can’t remove fear can’t silence can’t heal . Welcome to the worst class
Druid is not useless. They're decent healers, can be decent DPS (if the player is competent and willing to put in some work), and can tank dungeons in the 5-10 player range. They're also very versatile in PVP.
I've literally banned hunters from using pets in my dungeon group. The amount of times some hunter with weaponized autism wiped the group is not worth the extra 20dps.
Youch - Is that dungeons, raids, etc? There are a ton of BAD hunters out there - as it's a class that's easy to get into, but sending your pet at something it's not supposed to hit can deff mean a wipe.
I avoid groups with a hunter in it. They WILL need on ANY gear that they can equip, doesent matter if its a caster robe or a mele mail armor, they will need on it.
I have not seen that from my experiences. As far as competing for gear and slimy need rolls are concerned the classes that potentially tick me off the most are the hybrids of shaman, druid, and paladin. Shamans especially on the horde side, which is another reason I rolled an alliance hunter.
Pet attack and Pet follow for me are bound on mouse scroll wheel up and mouse scroll wheel down respectively, it feels INCREDIBLY intuitive.
Killval so glad I read this comment
Nice idea! But what about the zoom in zoom out function?
@@Catire92 shift+ mouse wheel solves this. Still very fast bind
@@Catire92 All pet abilities are on 'Ctrl' modifiers, so set attack/passive to Ctrl + Mup/Mdown, and keep Mup/Mdown for zoom :)
How do you bind that?
Helpful pvp tip, scare beast works on shapeshifted druids
Definitely the best tactic I've used against feral druids. If nothing else it scares them out of form opening them up for scatter - trap combo.
@@samronco5133 does scatter take you out of combat ?
@golden memes no it does not, that's where the feign into trap macro comes in. SS is a set up so you can run in for the FD trap regain range follow up with Aim shot into auto into multi for a nice burst combo.
Joshua Boatwright Damn so my bm spec intimidation stun is a better cc then scatter
@@goldenmemes51 consider SS your gouge for a rogue , a set up for restealth or in this case full trap, so you can stuff the Aimed down his or her throat. Especially you add in clever traps. You could bandage in his face and move back for aimed multi burst combo
Kargoz had a good tip, mouse wheel forward and back for pet attack and return. Feels really intuitive.
@@Pwnage-Variety I use shift+mouse forward and back, just to ensure I don't hit it accidentally.
@@Pwnage-Variety pet wheel up/wheel down - camera shift+wheel up/ shift+wheel down
Works great when slinging lock pet around too, and def shift wheel for zoom,
I’ve been maining a hunter since the start of classic and I don’t regret it at all. By far the best range of any class maybe side by side with the mage or even a little better. And the physical range damage is just insane. After I finally perfected DM north tribute runs the class became a lot easier and I completely learned how to kite. Best tips I can give is don’t multi-shot when cc is active (poly, sleeps, etc). ALWAYS dismiss your pet when jumping off of a ledge within a dungeon. Know when to switch between different aspects based on the scenario. Don’t be afraid to FD to reset threat, this will save you! Learn your traps well and what situations require which trap. Always be aware of where your standing and never EVER walk backwards! Instead just strafe sideways or run forwards while looking back with camera when kiting. Best of luck ;)
A lot of matchup mentions forget to mention that you can have a massive range advantage with talents. Stay at max range, and few can even get close enough for a ranged ability. If you have a feel for max range, you become incredibly frustrating to bother with.
I respect the grind! I remember first seeing you with 250 subscribers! Congrats on the success :D
Same! I knew he would do good. He speaks clearly and understandably.
Oh... Back when I started to play WoW in when patch 1.9 was released and I got gifted with WoW copy and 2 months of sub time. I spend like 2 months leveling all classes till the 30's, but I decide to be the hunter class. In my eyes and feelings this class depends on you and your skills. If you are bad player, then you are bad as a hunter. This class learnt me to be more self-aware of my surroundings and to use the terrain as my advantage and that motion is my friend both in PvP and PvE. My realm back then was Sylvanas PvP EU when Vurtne was the hero of the Horde pvp scene and he was kind of inspiration for me 😁
Awesome!
Rename the video to "Classic Hunter PVP tips"
True lol, they are pretty complicated in pvp though I didnt want to cut corners
@@Pwnage-Variety I think the idea was to give an overal idea about the matchups. Most people would probably have found the video to be more boring with a in-depth look at the hunters toolkit vs each class. This seemed to me to be a good middle ground tbh.
*Your CLASS'S Strengths*
@@WillEmmo what server Is this?
Probably gonna be jumping into vanilla in a day or two, and I'm gonna recreate my first character that I made during tbc, my Tauren beast master hunter with an alpha wolf pet.
Ah, a hunta! Great choice mon! :)
Nice! Been Streaming on RUclips My Lvling Experience on my hunter, will deff be doing some PvP. I'm lv 34 atm, but recently rerolled from a horde 60 troll to an alliance night elf. I went to a PST Server + my friends quit (classic to hard) syndrome lol.
Tip for you hunters in the dire maul clip he shared you go up where your pet is have your pet down on the very bottom of the ramp have your pet started out and you ripped back or you have so much more time to dump damage. using the method that I just said is how I was able to get my runs down to 10 minutes
I played on classic for a month as a troll hunter. Had to cancel my subscription so I can focus on college. Once I am done I will come back, but this time roll my hunter on a PvP server. Can't wait!
This is more of a how to kill a hunter as all the other classes guide
Thank you for the tip about waiting before FD.
I was wondering why this skill didn't work for me.
hunter vs rogue is easy matchup, your whole kit is made for this. you forgot to mention something very important and that is track hidden which makes them basicly unable to open on you
Ah very right, my bad there good tip
warlock or pally. We need that Free Mount at 40 Representation
Haha! Did you think I would check the description! Of course I wouldn’t! warlock for number 6 squad rise up
Hunters should be able to ride all pets.
Been waiting for this.
Hope it turned out well!
Vs druids also scatter shot to fear beast is really helpful
Ive mained a hunter since right b4 TBC released back in the day and again in classic. the biggest mistake that i keep seeing my fellow hunters do while in dungeon groups is leaving "Growl" on auto-cast. turn that shit off. we got wiped in deadmines because a dwarf hunter kept pulling mobs off the tank, and when his pet died, so did he and everyone else because tank couldn't regain aggro. please fellow hunters, its a simple right click on the ability to disable auto-cast on it. it might be nice while solo, but do not, do not have it on when grouped. i put "cower" on autocast in groups, use that instead, your tank will thank you.
Rogue next! :D Great videos dude!
Nice video overall, but no mention of Track Hidden in the Hunter vs Rogue Matchup? It's game changing you can see a similar level rogue in stealth from 20 yds+ with Track Hidden up
its def incredibly useful but nowhere near 20+ yards lol
yah... after testing it some in duels more I think you're right I exaggerated!! It feels closer to maybe 5-10 yds.
good old times, I played till TBC, had 2 hunter on lvl 70 (and a few other chars, but hunter is always my fav) then playing on private server I played 4 hunter again, 2 to lvl 60 and the other two till lvl 40 (switching sides and then quit)
I love your vids you have a new sub. :)
Cheers!
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Hunter in warlords and legion was badass. Other expansions were meh.
BC man. BC BM hunter with leather working drums and trinket and gem only resilience or at least mixed with on pvp gear. I literally good fight 3 to 4 players and tank em with my face because I COULD NOT BE STOPPED UNLESS KILLED. For duration with all that other stacked shit, i broke the game back then,. It was ridiculously hard to CC me.
Love hunters, just can’t dedicate myself to the class at it gets gimped in AQ40 and Naxx. I had a hell of a lot of fun in the first few phases though!
Haha so funny, seems like hunters have a problem with each class, no matter what xD
Not mentioning Scare Beast vs Druids in PvP
As a feral druid that is really annoying to deal with, not impossible though. You just shift out as the cast is about to finish, and then shift back in. It costs a lot of mana to keep doing this, but powershifting as a druid will let you maintain damage if you trait right.
You forgot thread meter addon so you can see how much thread ur pet makes
one thing. do you know if its possible to hide the damn quiver who appears on the back while fighting? it bugs with a 2hand weapon u using
Give us Warrior next 😡
After the latest 'hotfix' hunter soloing is pretty much done...as in broken.
Not to mention feign death and trap still being busted thanks to spell batching.
Pet too. Wouldve been better if you visited the bug forums and made a video about these things instead of trying to hype it up in its current broken state.
While I agree on Feign Death and Trap being an issue (and would like to include the short-lived patches where scatter and trap shared a DR into that), what's the issue with soloing exactly? I've been running DM Tribute solo consistently as recently as 5 minutes ago.
both solo farm dungeons, as in DM trib and mara princess are still easily soloable. I am not sure what you are refering to. FD can be a real bitch, I agree, but if you struggle to solo the notoriously known hunter solo dungeons, then the issue lies with you and not some hotfix
Wait tribute isnt broken is it? That change just affects mobs that are part of the same pack resetting aggro. FD is different from that I guess
Great series. I challenge to do to one on the best class in the game: WARLOCK
*11:40** EXCUSE ME, BUT AS A SHAMAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS*
SO HAPPY, I THOUGHT WARLOCK WON THE LAST ONE ...
I'm a casual noob huntard so let me check this out.
Ok I'm doing everything wrong
entrapment over survivalist
Warrior next
Rogue dude! Are you really going to leave us last?
I doubt it!
But doesn't strength cause more harm to the pet?
warriors should be next
Warlock next please! Great video!
What's the ambient playing at the very end?
Says stat stick -> Shows Bonereever's Edge... Nice
Did you not cover Hunter vs pally?
TIL; Raptors and cats deal the same damage.
How do you zoom your camera out so far? Mine doesn't zoom that far.
If you go into key bindings and assign a key to "zoom out" it will zoom out way farther than the mouse wheel.
what's a good site to get addons for classic?
Good video btw, might try a hunter this time around.
During vanilla my main was a Pally and a Mage.
paladin basically span melee attack then bubble and heal after they get scared lol
it's not much, but it is honest work
You got a Pumpkin Bag?! I’m tempted to dislike this video out of envy.
Where’d you get the footage in arathi basin/warsong gulch?
Looks like a P server, given that horde and alliance are fighting together
Ok ok ok so i play hunter and
in world pvp
literally just multishot and auto. Put down entrapment at choke points. Win
Frost trap is nasty at chokes tbh right on
Looking forward to warrior
druid FEAR BEAST
Wait, they didn't include useless classes? ahermhermherm
sound is a little bit low
Hunter is really the ultimate noob class, and i don't say that in any bad way, the hunter playstyle is hard to mess up when you are solo. if your pet dies and you suck, so do you. but you always have that fd option to not only save you a tone of gold on repair bills. but also give you a fast re-do this fight option .
much less frustration to play as a first timer than any other class.
Its a easy solo-lvl class. But in pvp they are very hard. And quiet boring too
I'm still upset the warlock in the intro is a gnome
Why? Gnomes are the best warlocks.
@@DrPluton not in lore wise.
:( but muh gnome
@@huppupappa1637 I was thinking of stats. They have the biggest mana pool due to the extra intellect, and they don't have ugly bones sticking through their robes like the Forsaken.
@@DrPluton If I had to choose between looking like a gnome in real life and dying in a fire, I would go with dying in a fire.
And if I was forced to faction/race change my undead mage into a gnome mage, I would stop playing.
Rogue
Anyone know music is playing around the 3 minute mark?
Storm peaks day music its amazing
WillE thanks a lot for replying!! Also thanks for these awesome vids! Keep em coming
mukbang asmr
Warlock should be next
Do rogue plz
hunter that slow gank so triggering
MAKE A ROGUE ONE
WAAARLOCK NEXT
Talks about countering druids and doesnt even mention scare beast. Druids can be annoying but unless they get the jump hunters really shouldnt be losing. The real problem for hunters comes from locks...like most classes lol (bruh, as I keep watching he says Palis can be difficult cause they can hit u hard...they cant touch you, ever, they have no range gap besides 1 stun, you have more than enough to recreate range gap over and over again) ok then brings up scare beast in the mirror where the time casting it will get u killed, even using aimed in the mirror period is dumb unless there trapped cause of feign and u can kill due to high damage without using rather quick...this dude dont play a hunter (ima fan tho)
Huntards are hunters who dont understand that survival is the best pvp spec. I'm talking 20/0/31 deep surv
I almost dont disagree with you... the trap talets are nice too and i should respect for them
Too much nostalgia from the Storm Peaks soundtrack...too hard to watch
Love that track so much
the hunters, the class that goes afk at the start of everypull
kurzgesagt
MM is not for PVP. LoL
dwarf is the worst race for hunter.
Worst pvp class in the game
Dead zone ( great against blinkers and chargers)
Crap CC. Useless when you get slowed
If you get to far shaman priest will heal if you get too close u get dotted to death .
No piercing attacks va armoured.
Cant remove dots can’t remove fear can’t silence
can’t heal .
Welcome to the worst class
Yeah I'm not going to bother with that bow and staff quests, because those weapon types are lame. Guns and dual wield please and thank you.
Thank you for macros.
I never played a hunter before. Now I'm leveling a hunter just so I can ninja loot everything !
Druid is useless
and best at the same time
What an incredibly stupid statement.
Druid is just as much fun as hunter
Druid is not useless. They're decent healers, can be decent DPS (if the player is competent and willing to put in some work), and can tank dungeons in the 5-10 player range. They're also very versatile in PVP.
Druids are great in raids for mark of the wild, and innervate. Otherwise, meh, never been really interested in rolling one.
I've literally banned hunters from using pets in my dungeon group. The amount of times some hunter with weaponized autism wiped the group is not worth the extra 20dps.
Youch - Is that dungeons, raids, etc? There are a ton of BAD hunters out there - as it's a class that's easy to get into, but sending your pet at something it's not supposed to hit can deff mean a wipe.
Hunters are easy and funny to lvl with. But extremely hard in pvp 1vs1 and mostly boring
I avoid groups with a hunter in it. They WILL need on ANY gear that they can equip, doesent matter if its a caster robe or a mele mail armor, they will need on it.
@xrelik Never seen a warrior need on caster armor.
I have not seen that from my experiences. As far as competing for gear and slimy need rolls are concerned the classes that potentially tick me off the most are the hybrids of shaman, druid, and paladin. Shamans especially on the horde side, which is another reason I rolled an alliance hunter.
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