Honda's 2023 Accord Is All-In On Hybrids And Big Screens
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I really really like Honda's hybrid system. The fact that this Clarity gets practically the same amount of power in electric mode as in hybrid mode is one of the major reasons we got this car vs a Prius or RAV4 Prime.
I have it in my '23 CR-V and it's great.
it feels soulless on the road
@@brooklyn560It’s a Honda Accord… it doesn’t need a “soul.”
It would've been better if they put the motor in the rear and connect the engine to the front wheels.
You need a "soul" ? You should daily drive a 1970s Bronco
One quick piece of (hopefully!) constructive feedback: I find a lot of reviewers don’t provide more than a surface level NVH readout. Given that you already do the measurements, it might be helpful to include a table to the right with comparable vehicles you’ve tested.
Recently bought a Mazda3 Turbo after watching your review on replay so thank you for such great and consistent content over the years!
But how to control for variables? Even if he designates a standard course, wind and passing traffic would throw off the result. I'm not sure how any reviewer could accomplish this and have the results be particularly useful.
It's also subjective, because a lower db with higher pitch can be less pleasant. I'm glad they at least always provide some feedback on cabin noise, which isn't something I can say about others.
I had planned to buy the new Touring - but it seems like Honda just went too cheap on a $40k car... I was hoping for AWD. Also, no heated steering wheel, no laminated glass, one seat back pocket? The CRV weighs 400 lbs more, has AWD, laminated glass, and heated steering wheel - yet costs the same??? Is it just me or are others confused by the missing content. $40k is real money and a person can get something much nicer (ES350 no markups now and still have sweet v6 option - and trust me they even include two seat back pockets) if they find a car one year old. I say this as a life long honda fan boy!!
Looks like my shopping continues...
Sounds like you need a TLX.
@@future62 I would but the infotainment is a few years behind in the TLX... actually, the whole dash looks like the 80's.
No adaptive dampers too. I use to have a 20 Accord Touring and I did like it for the most part but I wasn't in love with it so I traded it in last year for profits. I too was planning to give the Accord another chance but man they got rid of way too much like the like 2.0T. If I wanted a hybrid I would rather just get the last gen version instead.
You’re not the first person I’ve seen mention no markups on a Lexus vehicle.. do they have some kind of policy against dealerships jacking the prices up?
The E350 starts at $44k base (incl dest) and doesn’t come with any of those things at that level.
Thanks for another awesome review, all the technical details are great (like describing how the transmission is a 2-motor serial hybrid with lockup mode) and how you show there is no spare tire (but a place to put one) is so appreciated!
I also appreciate Alex for showing the spare tire area! I have not seen another reviewer took the time out to find out if a spare tire would fit in that area. It is important to have a spare tire on long road trips. Hopefully Alex will let us know what spare tire size will fit in that trunk compartment. I hope a 17 in tire will fit since I plan to get the EX-L trim with 17 in wheels.
Good job honda. Simple family car that gets good mpgs . Not worried about going fast its a family car. Got a muscle car for speed ,truck for hauling, accord for the family and getting around town .
I will say this: As a Honda buyer, If Toyota still has their Camry TRD 300hp V6 models, then I’m never going to look back at the pitiful 192hp 1.5T Accord and this 206hp hybrid. I loved the older 278hp 2017 V6 Honda Accord’s and even the 252hp 2018 2.0T Accords that used to win drag races against Ecoboom Mustangs; but if this pitiful 192hp is all they got that’s not a hybrid, then I am no longer on the market for an Accord, and the Accord is dead to me.
I understand that not enough people bought these higher hp products, but it’s just sad to see the performance options of V6, V8, and 2.0T disappearing.
I could not agree more. I have been driving Hondas/Acuras for almost 38 years straight. Currently have a '21 Accord Touring 2.0T. Honda has forsaken me as a customer when they abandoned performance in this new Accord. Why didn't they drop the 1.5T, make the hybrid engine their entry level engine and keep the 2.0T? I know they're grooming us to go full electric but I will fight that until the bitter end. Bye Honda. It was a swell run but you ruined it for me. I'm sure the new Accord will sell very well to the masses but no one who enjoys a bit of performance will be buying this car.
What do you drive now?
Picked up the base Sport Hybrid last month and have put on about 800 miles or so. It's my first time owning a Honda, overall have been happy with the purchase. Has been plenty powerful for my needs and the overall drive experience has been great to this point. Few things to note, though. The gas mileage advertised compared to what I've been getting is night and day. I've been averaging around 35mpg city compared to the advertised 46. On the flipside however, I have been averaging close to 52mpg highway, compared to the 42mpg they rated. I expected some variance there, but just seems way off in either direction. Wireless Android Auto has been a great feature, although it has bugged out a few times. The lack of a charging pad is a bit of a bummer, but not a major inconvenience.
If you are a neat freak and hate fingerprints, the piano black accents in the car will drive you crazy. Really don't understand why they (or any manufacturer) continues to use that material. Not only does it look and feel cheap, but they decided to place it around area's you'll naturally touch (near the start button, shifter, and base of the steering wheel).
Lastly, it is a shame that this car isn't a plug in hybrid. The more I drive the car, the more it kinda feels this was meant to be an EV, but they decided to make it an ICE Hybrid at the last moment. It's one of those feelings that only makes sense once you actually get behind the wheel. But, at the end of the day it is still a great sedan, very easy to recommend.
Thanks matt
Alex, no full scores , when will you put full scores ?
The Sonata hybrid doesn’t have a 1.6 turbo. It has a NA 2.0 just like the Accord. While mine doesn’t meet EPA ratings either, I am very happy with the Sonata’s features and refinement.
I always appreciate how Alex remembers the passenger seat. My wife appreciates it. :)
Finally someone mentions how it’s going to be harder to clean near the vents. I thought I was the only one thinking about that.
They make dusters that can get in small crevices.
Only Alex touches on the fact that there is room for a spare tire. I'm sad to see the 2.0T go, but the Accord Touring will still probably be my go to if my TSX V6 ever dies on me.
BTW, Alex mentioned the center vents not closing. Most Japanese car brands, apart from Lexus and Infiniti, don't make cars with closing center vents. I always found that super annoying. My TSX has closing center vents, which is one of the reasons I bought it over the TL.
Wait… you have a TSX V6?!? Do you know just how rare that car is?!
My ol' 18 Mazda 6 can shut off the rear vents... Just saying
@@ljpr360 :-), Mazda actually does have closing center air vents in some of their cars. I know the CX-5 has this feature.
The annoying thing with Mazda is that they do not put locks on the glovebox in any of their cars. The other non-luxury Japanese brands at least have lockable gloveboxes on their more expensive cars, but Mazda doesn't include this feature in any of their cars. Even the new CX-90, which is being advertised as a luxury three row, is missing this feature. I would probably never buy a Mazda for this one reason. Every car should have a lockable glovebox.
@@MrSamPhoenix It's rare because no one wanted to buy them new, due to the fact that a FWD TL could be had for the same money. I never liked the TL. I preferred the more European like styling of the TSX. I actually waited for the V6 to come out for the '10 model year. I bought one as soon as it came out in late '09. I've been loving the car, plan to drive it until it dies. It is a pretty rare car, I've only seen a handful of V6s on the road since I purchased it. It's just rare though, not valuable. Even today, not many people are willing to pay extra for the V6 on a TSX.
I have the current 10th generation Touring trim Accord. I feel it's quite a bummer not having the heated steering wheel compared to the Canada version. Also, the memory seats don't link the side mirror positions, which is kind of useless. I'm not sure if this has been improved with the 11th gen, or they are still upselling that feature to the Acura brand, but I think it would be an important piece of info to note for later reviews.
they really cut the lumbar support from 4 ways to only two ways
I wonder if the Touring has the laminated glass to reduce noise (as seen on the new CRV Touring). No mention of this in the official honda release notes.
The all new 2023 Honda Taurus
😆😆...
Still better than a POS BMW Ricky Racer Boy Trash
SHO?
LOL 😂
Yep
Looks like a Ford if Ford still made sedans.
Lame
@@katmanjenks1961 right. Horrible exterior design a copy of the civic interior. They are intentionally trying to kill all the accord one day. Ugly design, poor resale, new excuse to do so.
It actually looks like a Volkswagen 😂
Absolutely man it looks like the Ford Taurus which I had one very reliable hard working car stay away from the CVT thouwhich is hard to do these days go back to a gear Box
I got rid of my 2019 Honda Accord because it sat too low. I don't think anybody does a better job of car reviews than Alex on Autos!
Yea it's nuts how low they are.
Alex, What is the point of leg room without head room? 7:22 No wonder sales of sleek, 'swoopy' sedans continue to crater while practical CUVs grab more and more market share. As big as the new Accord is on the outside, the back seat is frustratingly useless for full-size adults.🤨
They want to shrug their shoulders and say “nobody wants sedans anymore.”
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy by pushing buyers away from sedans and into crossovers by making sedans less and less practical with each redesign.
@@webcomment8895 Exactly!!
They should at least have made a 250hp version. Even if it was a hybrid.
Perfect comment.
The hybrid basically is… 250 instand electric torque will feel similar to 250hp
@@ciello___8307 nope not a chance. The 2.0t is leagues better than this new hybrid in a celeration.
@@ciello___8307 Not above 85 MPH or high speed grades
Front end reminds me of a 2013 Ford Taurus
Everyone who is watching this, please go on honda's website on your own and notice how every single actually good feature is locked behind a price tag of 37K+. Anything bellow the touring is pretty much base, its so bare bones it makes a corolla look loaded.
It seems as though Honda cheaped-out a bit on this Accord. The non-adjustable seat height/tilt, lack of rear headroom, no all-wheel drive, and the inclusion of interior gloss black, are, in there totality, non-starters for me. It is the best looking Accord that I’ve seen to date, unfortunately that’s just not enough.
Good to see Alex Jr in the back seat.
I am 6'5" and found lots of headroom in this, even with a sunroof. The front seat as a lot of height adjustment.
As a 2018 Accord 2.0t owner I was planning to get a 2.0t 11th gen. I am open to hybrids, but Honda’s gets meaningfully worse fuel economy than the Camry. I’m a Honda fanboy, but I don’t think I’ll be buying an Accord again.
Well, I’ve noticed that owners of Honda’s tend to drive in a more spirited fashion vs Toyota owners. This could have a negative effect on fuel economy.
@@MrSamPhoenix It doesn’t. It’s just a less efficient system.
My first Accord was a 1988 Accord Coupe LXi. My last one will be my current 2021 Accord Touring 2.0T. Won’t be buying any more Accords unless Honda chooses to offer a more powerful version in the future. Going from my 2.0T to this weak Accord Hybrid would be a colossal downgrade.
that front end and front overhang is awful, it needs an emergency refresh ASAP
And it's not even on sale yet. 😆
I really the little details like what happens when the traction battery is full and when the brake lights will turn on, most reviewers won't cover this.
If you want performance look at Acura, y'all. I for one would love a hybrid EX-L. Just wish the e-CVT didn't 'shift'.
Good car but not enough to attract a 10gen Accord hybrid owner!
A note for used car shoppers- as a counter to the Camry, know that it didn't get its refresh until 2025, which means no wireless smartphone connectivity or USB-C ports. Obviously that will matter more to some than others, but it's important to know.
I have read on consumer reports that the hybrid drivers seat is uncomfortable. That was the sport hybrid. Here's what they had to say. "The front seats are the car’s biggest letdown: The bottom cushion’s shape makes it feel like you’re sitting in a hole, and the thin padding loses support quickly, compromising comfort on even moderately long drives." Is that also true of the touring model?
Yes. Seats suck
Would have been very curious how the Civic’s rear seat headroom and legroom dimensions compared to the Accords. Really disappointed about the Accords interior. Actually think the Civics interior looks more premium. Very sad bout the lost of the 2L turbo engine. I’m guessing They did that to make the Acura TLX seem less terrible. Very disappointed overall in this new generation of Accord
Ive sat in both and the new accord is definitely nicer inside. The finishing and molding is more detailed in the accord. Civic is very trim dependent.
I’m keeping my ‘17 V6 Accord until it dies. A shame no V6 or 2.0T in the Accord anymore.
It’ll last awhile!
boooooo. great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car
Toyota Prius: better looking, AWD, same 0-60, better gas mileage, panoramic roof. What is the appeal here?
I'm not sure why they'd purposefully put 19" rims on this car to reduce the MPG on a hybrid.
It looked way better last gen. I owned a 2019 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring for 3 years, and it was a gorgeous design. This new one looks more like a Ford/Audi combo. Definitely will not be considering it with that change alone. Great review as always though.
I don’t get it, with the 10th gen Honda changed the styling and ergonomics to move away from families and towards a sportier buyer (e.g. higher beltline, smaller windows, less rear headroom) as families have logically been buying crossovers such as the HR-V and really the CR-V. So I don’t get why for this generation Honda decided to alienate that sportier buyer they were targeting. No AWD, and especially dropping the 2.0T and its stepped, 10-speed transmission. It’s a short sighted move in my opinion. They already make the 2.0T and that 10-speed, they simply could have carried it over. They have essentially abdicated sportier market share to the Camry V6 (should Toyota keep it around for their next gen) and the Hyundai twins in their performance variants. And for what, I don’t know a single family or prospective family buyer that actually wants a sedan, they are all moving to crossovers with 0 sedans on their lists.
I get the goal, I get the motive, heck I would love more fuel economy out of my 2.0T, but ultimately I, like many other 10th gen 2.0T buyers, love that torque. We loved the mannerisms, dynamics, and power of the 2.0T powertrain. After seeing this model when it dropped, I realized I’m going to be keeping my 2.0T EX-L until the day it dies. This next generation is just a slap in the face to the very buyers they were catering to with the 10th gen.
Perhaps the sales of the 2.0T just weren’t there to justify it.
It's ridiculous, I have a 2004 accord coupe (2 door) and it is about as cramped in the back as this "4 door" version. WTF. I need to upgrade because the family is getting taller.
They nerfed the accord because it was to close to the Acura TLX.
Just got my 2023 hybrid Sport L in Urban gray and Red leather seats 😁
Great looking car there but I still love the previous gen's front end.
Anyways, excellent review as always. 👌🏾
Great and intelligent review. Thank you!
To me, the car is in no-man's-land with the engine choices and trans. I'd just buy a Civic Hatch or CRV.
I just got a Touring in Platinum White. I really wanted the Red with Gray interior, but it just wasn’t available. I love most everything about the car, with one major annoyance. Honda allows you to customize an Individual driving mode, but does not allow you to specify your Individual mode to be the default. How ridiculous is this? You can customize a drive mode, then they make you re-select it every time you start the car.
Love the truck comfort index!
It’s been clear with the economic downturn that many car companies are getting rid of base models to improve their margins, Honda included (no LX trim CRV, Civic, etc.) I think what frustrates me most is the steep increase in price of the most efficient accord, which would have been the base hybrid last generation at around $28k but is now the EX-L at $33.5k. I wish there was a lower trim or an option to get the skinnier tires/wheels on the sport hybrid.
Beyond that, the omission of things like the adaptive dampers, heated steering wheel, and a panoramic moonroof versus competitors is a shame. It feels like Honda either needs to move Acura significantly upmarket, or axe it to give its mainstream models breathing room to be more competitive.
Exactly, the pressure of the cost increases apply to all manufacturers, not only to Honda. But Honda has been cut corners on all their recent released new cars. Less design uniqueness, less technology, and sliding reliability too. I just don’t see their willingness to compete in this market, only ignorance and greediness.
Is a heated steering wheel not optional like on the CRV?
@@afcgeo882 according to the online configurator this morning, nope, not even as an accessory.
I'm impressed with the interior space. 3 inches more rear leg room than Camry and best in class cargo space. The headroom is only half an inch lower than the leader; not a big deal.
I don't understand why Honda have this approach, more expensive car and less features 🤦🏻no BSM, NO lumbar support standard. WOW
I’m not sure why Honda keeps trying to use a serial hybrid system when theory and real world use have proven a parallel system is more efficient
Probably a mix of patents and engineering pride/arrogance.
Honda did something similar with their early automatic transmissions where they shoehorned in clutch packs on a parallel shaft layout because they didn’t want to deal with the patents on planetary automatics. The result was their automatics were significantly heavier and bulkier than their competitors’ units.
I'm just here for info on the suspension, steering, NVH. Would love it if Alex could provide more info on all of the aforementioned. He does say it sounds quieter and that it feels firmer than the last gen (the last was FIRM, so I don't know why the hell Honda would make it even firmer 😬). But even more info and some comparisons to other cars/brands would be nice. Is it as firm as TypeR? Is it as soft as a 1980s Lincoln? Is the steering light, overboosted, numb, etc? Or is it heavy, sporty, feels like there's no power steering?
I've heard others say that the steering is slightly numb, but it is customizable and personal settings as far as ratio.
Hopefully you can start reviewing the driver assists like cruise control and stop and go traffic assist
No one was asking for a bigger accord with zero performance option yet honda thought that was what we needed, total letdown from honda here
I’m going to go with my gut feeling and say Honda is steering power loving customers to by the all new Acura Integra or Civic TypeR
It’s surprising to say the least, they should know their audience buying midsize sedans is people between the ages of 18-25. Young people like myself are buying these cars and Honda has always been the sportier option out of its competitors. I understand that not everyone bought the 2.0t because the Sport with the 1.5t was the cheaper option but they still should have kept the 2.0t for the people who want more performance. I felt like Honda is catering to an older audience who isn’t buy family sedans anymore and who have bought crossovers and suvs
LMAO how funny some internet dude thinks he knows more about Honda themselves about their business
@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall don’t forget the TLX Type-S.
@@joahanramirez5811 yeah, I feel you but you must understand that most people in their 20s can’t afford brand new vehicles. People in their 40s & up are the ones with most of the money.
Thanks for the great review, in your opinion what is the best color on the Honda Accord?
It is so dumb of manufacturers to push back the rear seats for a useless amount of legroom and reduce the headroom this way. What's the point of all that legroom? If they mounted the rear seats 1" further forward it would still have enough legroom for everyone (including child seats) and it would actually fit taller people this way bc it would have more headroom if the rear seats were in a position where the roof is higher up.
I wish sedans had sliding rear seats.
Edit: And the trunk would be bigger too.
because those over 6 feet make up roughly 15% of the population
@@elai3147 that's literally a reason why its WRONG what they are doing, you completely missed the point
what's better -
having legroom for a 7' person but headroom for a 5`8" person
or moving the seat forward, still having legroom for a 6'5" person and having headroom for a 6'5" person
@@Mgoblagulkablong you're missing the point, from the perspective of a manufacturer it makes more sense for them to make 85% of the population feel like they are sitting in a limo, the other 15% are negligible, if they're too big to fit honda don't mind them buying something else, as soon as you say "legroom for a 7' person but headroom for a 5'8" person" you are thinking from the perspective of what is the maximum proportion of a person you can fit in that space (and 5"8" is definitely exaggerative, anyone under 6' can sit fine), call them "wrong" all you want but honda does not care about 6'5" or 7' people, look at their sales number they're doing fine, camry sells even more and it's even more cramped in the back
@@elai3147 85% NEVER SIT IN THE BACK and would rather have a bigger trunk
I sat in the backseat in a showroom and had the EXACT same problem with my head hitting the ceiling. And I'm just under 6' tall, not a giant. Pretty sad, unpurchaseable for a family with taller children.
I wish they made a hatchback trunk
The closest thing would be a CRV. Might be worth looking at
I would never go back to not having a heated steering wheel. What a strange decision to not give an option
Agreed. It’s a dealbreaker for me. And I was eyeing the EX-L for purchase.
Gee, if only someone invented lined driving gloves.
Hmmmmm 😂
Its all about less for more money
I'm not paying any amount of money to have visitors at the back seat to be SARDINED!!! on any vehicle. Your videos are always appreciated. Thank you. So call old days, everybody had HEADROOM.
What do you think?
Didn't notice any headroom issues. I get that it's lacking in comparison to most others in this category, but it has more legroom than any sedan I've sat in since the 70s.
So i guess that leaves the Camry as the only Tru car with a Automatic..The Altima, Legacy & now the Accord
The next Camry is expected to be all hybrids like the Venza. So, that transmission may be gone in the Camry soon.
Heard the promise of additional apps becoming available in the future before. Stop lying Honda, you're just going to focus on the next model year and software version.
Wait, if you’re going up a hill at a speed below where the engine to output shaft coupler can be engaged, and the battery runs out aren’t you still being propelled by the electric motor? The engine turns the generator not the wheels if I understand correctly.
I didn't have my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV for very long but one of the things I miss is the brake regen paddles. It adds a little engagement in an otherwise straightforward driving experience.
Use compressed air (same as used to clean a computer) to clean the vent area.
the new 2023 Honda Mazda6 looks great!
I really like the look of it... but I think it would have been better if they had extended the front wheels closer to the front of the car. Seeing the profile of the car shows that 70's era amount of overhang. I think a lot of people will scrape the underside of the overhang if they have a slight bump to get onto their driveway. Having a longer wheelbase would likely improve the ride as well.
I think, considering the poor headroom, they should bring back the Accord wagon and make it have a sleeker rake at the back of the hatch to still give it a sleek look. The silhouette of the Volvo V90 and the Audi wagons look amazing while being more practical than the sedan.
Agreed.
I agree, there's too much Accord hanging out in front of the drive wheels. While the design results in a long hood, all that space would work nicely in the trunk. I never expected the new Accord to get, "That 70's Hood". 😊
And that's another reason why I'm hanging on to my Acura TSX SportWagon.
This new Accord resembles an old school Buick.
I got a 2002 with 109000 on it. Great car, hopefully the new ones are as good as the old one.
is that supposed to be a lot? My cars a 2012 with almost 200k on it 🤣
Did you buy it new 2002?
420k km. On my 13 Accord Sport manual same clutch
I've heard Hondas and Acuras well over 200k
No heated steering wheel on the $40k Accord Touring?? Not even available as an accessory part? Seems a better value is to take the $40K and buy a 1 year old BMW 330ix AWD. Honda just left too much off the Touring for the money.
But then you would own a BMW instead of a Honda. Honda fans are not into that.. regardless of features.
@@msmarshall854 I know - I currently own both. BMW ‘constantly’ has their hand in your bank account - and for huge sums. But an es350? Subaru legacy?
I’m just wish Honda went a little further in their $40k touring trim. The new CRV touring has more content for the same money.
I hear that, Jim.
Sad to see 2.0 T engine gone, I think I have to go with Camry XSE
If I could get pass those hard seats in the Camry's, I'd consider it. But the Accord would still be my choice.
The lack of a heated steering wheel is a deal breaker for me.
Same here!
😂 This car has no seat vibrate for my back, no deal!
The Camry is going to increase its sales lead over the Accord with how disappointing this is. They'll be an all new Camry later this year and if it's only slightly better than the current one, it already wins easily.
Bring back the Accord hatchback!
Very disapointing 360 camera and heated steering wheel are not offered.
A suggestion how your videos would get even better: Take a tape measure and measure combined legroom and headroom yourself. Only takes a few seconds. Manufacturers numbers are misleading, not comparable. For example in your video of the Legacy you said yourself that you had more headroom and that your head didn't touch anything, the better headroom was visible too, yet the official numbers don't show it.
I love the new design inside and out! I think people are missing the point of the Accord as well. It isn’t a sport car or a luxury car. It is an insanely efficient daily driver that has a ton of standard safety tech and features, and the top trim puts it pretty damn close to some base luxury cars with amenities (HUD, ventilated seats, premium sound, wireless charging, etc). Honda is going to sell a ton of these with that MPG figure. The world is going towards efficiency
The Accord 2.0T just became more valuable than ever
love your videos keep up the great work and like the Accord but with that being said this has to be the 3rd or 4th video ive seen on the new Accord but in a nut shell to me its Vanilla Ice Cream while most people like it vanilla but with other flavors that put a smile on your face, the Accord has become (for me) vanilla ice cream while its still good and will fill the need nicely....Yawn
Just for clarification, the 2018-2022 Accords have 12 way power adjustment but the downgraded in this new generation? very confusing.
Trunk Comfort Index FTW!!!🤣🤣🤣
They destroyed this car by dropping the 2.0T and automatic.
Sadly, I fear we only have government regulations to blame.
Rear seat design seems horrible. What's with the headroom?
I like your reviews but I loathe when I see “check back later for official scores” when it takes almost a year to get those. Sometimes it seems never.
HI Alex. What spare tire size do you think will fit in the spare tire compartment if I were to get one?
This powertrain emulating shifts even when there is no gearbox is one of the DUMBEST things I have seen in my life!
This is the height of pandering to automotive journalists, who have constantly highlighted the rubber band effect as a bug, instead of the feature that it really is.
They also killed the push-button shifter, which was one of the best features of GEN10. When combined with the features that automatically shift you into park, and set and release the parking brake, you will almost never have to touch the panel.
And when you do, it is trivial to do by touch. But the journalists had a hard time understanding that "R->" means "Just push in this direction to get reverse," even though they apparently had no problems with Toyota's joystick shifters.
Honda’s serial hybrid is less efficient despite being more like an electric - hope they think about improving electronics efficiency with silicon-carbide based inverter/converters to get them back close to other’s efficiencies!!
I guess Honda is trying to kill the Accord line up
The low rear roofline is a deal breaker
Blind spot monitoring should be standard on every car and Honda only offering on top the trim is ridiculous. Tossing the 2.0T is also a big mistake. While the interior is nice and the fuel economy is excellent, it’s bland. Also no Sirius XM! That’s just moronic.
Huh? It's standard on every 2023 Accord except the base model LX.
@@shawnwinget2337 yeah…except the base…why? Yet they include most other safety features. Ridiculous in 2023.
Honda absolutely ruined the drivetrain effectively killing the sales ! Going to miss the accord SMDH.
You never gave this car a full review like you said you would? A year later now…. Why not?
The arrogance of Honda would be it's undoing. They ditched the sweet v6 and got away with that now this. I hope Toyota and Mazda are watching.
I have yet to see the 46 MPG in the city as the most I have gotten is 30
30mpg in the city, that's a lie
2010 Honda Fusion, with less features, amenities and horsepower.
I'm old enough to remember when Honda allowed their top trims to have the top engine WITH manual transmissions! Or their base trims with the best engine and manual. Where is that Honda?? They've always had better than avg dynamics and mostly great quality. And I know that automakers are under the gun to increase efficiency and cut emissions, but Honda sells a boatload of Civics and HRVs to have offset the 2.0Ts f/e and emissions. They literally created a brand new 3.5 V6 in an era of heavy downsizing, yet let one of the best mainstream performance engines go?? I don't get it.
I like the design of this car!! Nice job Alex.
This looks like a nice, bland, commuting appliance. Nothing to stir the blood, but it will get you where you want to be in comfort and safety. If that was the mission for this update, mission accomplished
Maybe the LX will be a good option if the lack of moonroof is enough to make rear headroom adequate for 6 footers.
It seems to have all the basics standard if you can live with a 4 speaker radio and without a power drivers seat.
A Legacy is 5 inches shorter??? Yeah I'll take that instead with the 2.4T or even an AWD Altima.
Even on this top trim, there's no way to hide that infotainment panel on the far-right (the one that shows audio, compass, or power flow), except in CarPlay? Not even a way to make the built-in nav display fullscreen? That's annoying. And no heated steering wheel, in 2023, in a top trim? That alone might be a dealbreaker for some LOL (me??)
huge step back
I hope this has poor sales for this new Accord so that Honda can quickly scrap it and realize sht we made a mistake that way they will be forced to go back to the board and offer more engine options and a better well re designed car. Also dont make the accord bigger! The last generation already had tons of room! This thing is a giant boat now. Horrible.
I want a 0.5 liter one cylinder twin turbo version