The 2023 Honda Accord Touring Is An Electrified Acura-Like Hybrid Sedan
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- While most other manufacturers are abandoning family sedans, #Honda is not leaving the segment anytime soon with the redesigned 11th-generation #HondaAccord. This latest #AccordTouring trades some of the sportiness found in the previous generation for a refined #Acura like driving experience that feels noticeably more upmarket than its rivals. The #AccordHybrid will now account for more than 50% of sales and with up to 50 MPG on the #Hybrid, it will deliver the kind of efficiency Accord buyers are looking for.
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We finally got our hands on the all-new Accord for a week and even though some of you have voiced your dissatisfaction for the removal of the 2.0T engine, the reality is less than 10% of Accord buyers choose that engine and with a 0-60 MPH time of 6.4 secs, the new hybrid powertrain is only about 0.5 secs slower and gets nearly double the MPG's!
Actually C&D got a 0-60 of 5.3 seconds in the Accord 2.0T longterm test. So it's about a full second or 5 car lengths quicker to 60 than the new Accord Hybrid.
And the hybrid has none of the bonkers throw you in the seat and scare muscle cars ability the 2.0 has
Great way to out it
5 is slow these days.
@@davevolz6138 name a quick one in this segment.
Last gen Accord looks aggressive, this gen looks elegant
As a 32 year old with two kids, got damn this car is appealing. Amazing what 5 years and a family will do to your car tastes.
Same! 31yrs old, 2 kids and a new 1.5hr commute. Filling up almost twice a week is getting old. 😅
Hey I’m 19 I just got one
makes you want an appliance
@@aviator1228I have no kids but I prefer sedans over SUVS anyways Camry and accord will be the benchmark with 2 or 3 kids
I’m 30 with a 3 month old and shopping for this haha !
This is the first Accord since the early 2000s that will still look good in 20 years!
I bought this car a month ago and agree with most of this review, although I am consistently getting 44 mpg, but keep it in ECO mode 95% of the time. I liked last year's styling better but wasn't willing to buy a used car for almost the same price as a new car. Overall, a very smooth feel, ample pick-up for normal people. It has sensors on everything imaginable, but many are optional. It's a great car, but pricing is bad right now.
I bought a 2022 honda accord T2.0 but am thinking of trade it in for a 2023 honda accord touring.
Would you say the touring is worth it considering the mpg?
This looks better I just wish they kept the turbo engine
@@parksnrecsdetailing I'm getting an average 55 mpg (low 38 up to 77) with my Honda Accord Sport HYBRID model.
My wife & I don't like leather seats on the touring model. Too hot in San Diego CA.
Does it have dimming side mirrors? I feel that dimming mirror inside the car but not outside on sides still blinds you and it's stupid.
Got mine July22 (EX-L), now regularly getting 58-62 mpg in the city. Only one highway trip (250 miles) got 57.4 mpg.
I got my 2023 Accord EX-L in late March, and have been extremely pleased with it. I'm getting around 52mpg of mixed driving, and the car rides super smooth.
How is the power ? Does it have a decent kick
@@vincelopez8844 It has fairly decent power, especially on take off on battery power and no noisy turbo. It excels at midrange power, such as highway passing.
I personally think the previous generation looked better but great review as always
Yes! it had so much more character. I think this gen is fine but ultimately it wont be looked on as fondly as the previous one.
@@LordWinter I also have a 2018 accord sport 1.5 and I absolutely love it.
A 2016 Honda Civic honestly looks more modern.
people always say this about the new gen. when the last gen was new, everyone shat on it for the tail lights
Yep
I love my 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring! The Google integration is second to none and it drives super smooth. Also I have a bit more of a light foot and I have been seeing an average of 44.5 mpg combined city/highway.
Great video, Sofyan. I built these cars in Marysville, Ohio for 23 years and retired in 2018. It's good to see the Accord is still a class leader. Have a wonderful week.
Alex makes better videos as he shows other cars dimensions for comparison. Sofyan has been on cruise control ever since his divorce from hubby #1.
@@phatgringo2.0 now why tf would you say that 😂😂.
No longer a class leader when Honda intentionally leaves out features that every other car has offered for years. Every Honda now looks like a Civic inside and they force you to spend more money for an Acura if you want features that all other cars offer for less.
I bought an EX-L in early March and have been very happy with it. The only thing I dislike is the black interior as summer weather gets here, but the overuse of black interiors has become a problem with all the Honda models. Too few offer gray or beige (ivory) interiors now. My mpg is average 48-49 in mixed driving, so i can't complain. I chose the EX-L for the features included, and the 17 inch tires that provide better gas mileage and less road noise. I also made sure to get blind spot indicator with my car. Due to a parts shortage, a huge percentage of Accords do not have BSI installed this year. Make sure to ask the dealer about BSI on each car you test drive if that's important to you.
100% My local dealer actually screwed me over and told me my Sport-L would be here by the end of LAST month, but it came in without blind spot monitoring. So now I'm waiting...
48 mpg but you paid too much and have to pay interest and full coverage insurance
@@phatgringo2.0 He never mentioned whether or not he paid cash or has a lien on the car, so you have zero clue as to whether he is paying interest or is required to have comprehensive insurance (although I'm not sure why you wouldn't have comprehensive insurance on a new vehicle even if you paid cash).
@@sawyermartin4434 you're right, great deal on a 24 Taurus with an oatmeal tranny
I had to hold out and pre-order an EX-L with the grey interior. Black interiors get way too hot in the summer.
Good review Sofyan. It is amazing to see the variation in fuel economy between drivers and locales. I took delivery of my 2023 Touring March 1st in SE Wisconsin. As the weather has heated up and the engine has broken in, I am currently averaging 43.6 mpg in 1500 miles. However, in the last 800 or so miles, it is over 45. This is mix of highway (60-75mph) and city. Yes, I drive with a light foot to get good fuel economy and it is usually in ECO drive mode. Many have said, this looks like an old man's car. Well, I am an old man of 64 and I am loving this car. So glad it is much quieter than the previous generation. That was my main concern.
I have a 2018 Accord Hybrid Touring. It is a bit noisier, but not as bad as some will imply.
In over five years since break-in (not because of break-in, that's when I started keeping detailed records), over all driving conditions, I am averaging 48.0 mpg (it was rated at 47, both city and highway). I'm not an aggressive driver, but I am not passive either. The only thing that I think contributes to my mpg, is not changing speeds aggressively. I try to anticipate stops, and situations where I will want acceleration (like on-ramps). But my foot can be "heavy" when needs be.
I hated the exterior styling when I saw the photos but I really liked it when i saw it in person it looks long, low and classy. They should release a type s version
For a top of the line Touring trim, I'm very disappointed that Honda omitted a heated steering wheel, a 360-degree surround view camera, and SIRIUSXM SATELLITE RADIO! The Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Limited provides quite a bit more for the money and will receive a significant refresh later this year (for the 2024 model year).
They're also too easy to steal 😂
Honda also omitted Ventilated seats smh.
@@igarrett113 No they didn't.
@@igarrett113 Gassy?
@@igarrett113 No, they didnt, but they are useless anyway until the car is already cold. But many don't have Blind spot monitoring...
We bought a 2023 Accord touring and love it. Only negatives are that the passenger seat is not height adjustable and homelink is an extra.
I just purchased the Honda Touring and am in love! I had a 2011 so this is a significant upgrade for me especially with the heated seats which is a nice feature for me. I love the drive and the handling of the vehicle. It is soooo quiet that I thought it was not cranked. I like the large monitor screen and the personalization I can do on the dash. The passenger seat is way too low for my husband so we had to purchase a padded seat for passenger side to assist in sitting higher. They indicated it was a heated steering wheel, but this is only in the Canadian models. I have the nice red with a grey interior and it is very nice. I did not want the black interior so we opted for the grey which gives the car a very good contrast. But overall I am very happy with the new vehicle!!
I purchased the Honda Accord Hybrid Sport three weeks (on my birthday) and love it! My family is on the taller side (Norwegian roots) and we can fit in it vs a Toyota Camry.
I LOVE this new Accord; I think the styling blows the previous generation away, and I loved that car. This new accord looks so much more elegant; has a bold presence, that retains its sporting character in its styling. It looks sexy and more like a big line luxury car. It reminds me of an Audi A7, but the Accord, in my opinion looks even better. I’m in love with this car. I want one really bad ! As always, great review !
I agree with all of this. I have a sport trim, it’s replacing my 2010 and I love it!
Couldn’t agree with you more.
I agree, Tim. This vehicle is a beauty! Wasn't an easy task finding one in the Canyon River Blue color that I wanted, but finally secured one. Everything about the car is outstanding - from the exterior, to the interior, to the gas mileage, etc., etc. Has many of the features of more expensive luxury cars. Like you, I think it even looks better than the Audi A7!
@@mikemichaels1490 Congratulations to you. Oh, I’m so happy and excited for you. It sounds like you bought the top of the line, Touring trim? That’s the trim I would want as it has ALL the bells and whistles, and no cost cutting on interior trim (door panels,etc.), found on lower Accord level trims, shamefully, as every Honda Accord trim should have full padding trim on all 4 door panels, not just the fronts. Whenever I discovered that the rear door panels,on lower trim models are all hard plastics, save for the mildly padded Rubbermaid arms rests, I thought to myself; “OMG, what is the world coming to”. Quite frankly, this dismal surprise, on a Honda Accord, is well, SACRILEGIOUS ! Shame on Honda for this cost cutting on their pride and joy that’s been their major bread winner for the last 46 years, enabling it to make not only Car and Drivers annual top 10 best list, but Motor Trend as well. Though, any trim level of the all new accord is a beautiful automobile; there’s no denying the superb engineering genius that Honda has always infused into the Honda Accord. Not to mention a 17 cubic foot trunk, as well as a cavernous interior with nearly 41 inches of rear leg room. No matter the engine preference, whether it be the 1.5 turbo or the amazing new 2.0 hybrid motor, you’re still getting great gas mileage and great performance from either engine. However, my preference is the 2.0 hybrid engine; no denying that EPA rating of 46-51 mpg city, 41 to 44 mpg highway rating , all the while making 204 horsepower and 247 lb Ft of instantaneous torque provided by the electric motors from 0 rpm to 3000 rpm. That’s good for 0-60mph in 6.4 seconds; impressive. Not to mention it’s near sports car handling of 0.89 g-force around the bends, with levels of luxury refinement in the ride, and the hush hush quiet interior. In conclusion, nothing drives, nor can ever be what the Honda Accord is, and thats an unparalleled balance of everything to all consumers who buy the Accord, and continue to be because of these reasons. The Honda Accord truly is an engineering marvel ! Enjoy your car. I can’t wait until I can get one too.
Terrible taste. The previous gen was the last great accord.
This is too bloated
The design is growing in me but I’d still prefer to keep my previous gen sport as I think it’s better and sportier looking on the exterior. One thing I do love about the new accord is that infotainment system.
One thing i like is the rear. Its nicer than the old lobster claws
When I see the Accord LX I see Ford Taurus when I see the touring Accord I see Chevy Malibu I think Honda should have been a little bit more aggressive with our design just me.
What's your point? All cars look alike in some ways. They all have the similar bodies, 4 wheels, headlights, tailights, trunk etc.
@@RKO859 the car is ugly and looks outdated by 15 years on the exterior. It’s simply not attractive.
Is more like is Honda made a Ford Taurus this is what it would look😂... Far as I'm concerned is way better than the new face that's going to be on the Hyundai sonata....
@@jermainec2462 no way bro the general consensus is that the sonata looks much better especially in the front
@@GoldPeakLLC Luckily you don't have to buy one right...
One thing people are not realizing is it's a Honda Accord and after all of those other competitor cars end up in the scrapyard this Accord will still be running. It may not have every single Bell and whistle but really who needs that. This car has all of the creature comfort you could ever want it is very well-thought-out and the attention to detail and build quality it's fantastic for what it is.
Ugly as sin .
Front end looks already old. Heck , bring along side the previous model and looks better.
cvt…
@@SecretObservant yep same reason 99% are brokies and always bishing about their work and money.🤷🏻♂️..
It isn’t a coincidence, buying “Luxury” Cars for Clout, attention and impressing your fellow brokie neighbors that you don’t even like in the first place just to improve their outlook for you.
Did i read your mentality right?
The main competition for the Accord has always been the Camry. Honda just made a bland, ugly car where it's top engine has 100 fewer HP than the Camry's. This is a recipe for disaster. I have owned a couple of Accords, including the phenomenal '17 V6 Touring. I would NEVER consider this car with the pathetic powertrain options.
Hi, thanks for all your video's. I always look forward to your reviews.
I traded my 2021 Accord 1.5 sport for a 2023 sport hybrid. I love the 2023 Accord.
Excellent review! I am currently waiting for a Sport-L with blind spot monitoring. They can't seem to keep these Hybrids on the lot, but the gas-only versions can be had fairly easy.
Everyone wants a hybrid, no one really wants all electric or plug in. All electric car sales are down 7% from last year. People usually get common sense when the power goes out and they have to call off work.
I love the power of my 2019 2.0T, but if I had to I could live with the new one considering the mileage improvement. But I'd have to have the dealer install a spare tire kit and satellite radio if possible. Lack of those two things is a deal killer for me if the Touring doesn't offer them. And I'm a Honda nut!
You do fantastic reviews! You're easily the best on RUclips. Hands down.
Test drove one, having owned a 2018 accord, I feel this is so much refined and better than old gen.. Honda did listen, no more leaf blower sound when you floor it, gear shifter is back, faster with better torque..
Lol 😂 quit lying. This new Accord is definitely NOT faster and does not have better torque than the 10th Gen. A 18-22’ 2.0T 10 speed Accord will dust this new one. I’m the Owner of a 20’ Touring 2.0T 10-Speed. Trust me, I know. Honda stepped backwards with this new Gen.
@@dmcmix1340 unfortunately Honda listened to the people who drive the 1.5t not us who prefer the 2.0t....
@@Mrcrustie45 exactly! Smh and the real gig is they want us who want a Honda Sedan Product with any type power to step up to a Acura TLX Type-S which is overpriced, underpowered and overweight, or a Civic Type R, which is overpriced, and smaller than the Accord. They didn’t give us the option of buying anything remotely like the 10th Gen options had. I’m good with my ‘20 Touring.
Sorry the last Gen 2.0T laughs are the new car 🤦
Just got my ‘24 touring hybrid and it is an amazing auto. It’s elegant, the interior is gorgeous, the steering is nice, handling is on point and while no performance car, she moves pretty well.
I absolutely love the look of this Accord much better than last gen. It looks more like an Acura.
Please tell me you would not park this next to the current TLX and say they look alike with a straight face. 🤦🏻♂️
@@kingofspades531oh my imagine people having positive opinions instead of shitting on every new design that comes along.....what a sad person you are ...
My guess the flat black by the headlights likely reduces unintended glare reflections.
I've been driving the new 2023 Accord GT Hybrid for about a month now. Generally, I like it so far. Car is very quiet, very happy with gas mileage(47mpg), wonderful engine sound. But I also have a few disappointments. 1. Seats are not that comfortable and cushion seems too thin compare to my old Honda Accord. 2. Lack of head space. My hair touches the roof. 3. 12 inch Infotainment system malfunctioned after 2 and half weeks of driving. (google assist, volume control, skip button not working when you are in wireless mode)
SonyK should note that is Canadian MPG.
I'm 44 years old and whenever I see this car on the street, something special happens. The side profile commands respect with class. My first car was a 1990 Honda Accord EX with interior black lighting!
The 2016 model looked so much better and wasn't so overly-large. When you said it was about the same size as a Toyota Avalon, I was pretty shocked. Seems the new Civic is sized like an Accord now.
Interior was ass in 13-17
@@dfhhtyu3434interior in the 9th gen is meh, but the j35 has a beautiful engine sound.
Im not appreciating the bloating of all vehicles across the board in recent years. If I want to drive a mid size sedan its because its a mid size sedan. The new Ford Ranger is damn near the size of the older gen F150s and the toyota tacoma is the size of the older tundras. Like cmon guys parking spaces havent magically grown across the world in the last decade.
You are correct The Civic is the size of an "Accord" and should be an Accord with a new redesigned smaller Civic making it a "Compact" again,
@@gregorylunsford3991 Honda almost brought to the USA the Honda City. It's even smaller than the Civic. I wish they would. They sell it in Mexico, India, etc.
I've had a 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th generation Accord, including a V6 6-sp coupe, wish I never sold that one. I still drool for the new ones even though my needs are different now
I got to say this car look better in person
I love it. Reminds me of the Honda that dominated the 90s.
One of my neighbors has one of these. I find the styling rather bland, compared to the prior model, seems a thing with Honda to alter between sporty and aggressive and non-descript. I really liked the prior Sport 2.0T in that lovely shade of blue. Seems a step backwards not offering the 2.0T.
Blah blah blah blah...it will be OK Timmy.
@@RLTtizME lol
The problem was buyers weren't buying the 2.0T. Manufacturers aren't in the business of making vehicles that sit on dealer lots unsold.
@@mowcowbell It was a low take rate item, so was the V6- Yet several competitors Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai/Kia and Subaru all still offer higher performance options in their Mid Sizers. I think the real reason was to goose TLX sales by making buyers wanting a Honda sedan with more performance go and spend more money at the Acura store down the street.
Agreed. The previous generation looked a little Audi like, almost like an A7, which I liked. The interior of the new Accord looks awful, atrocious actually. The previous generation's interior had a luxury fee and look to it.
Great video! You helped me make my mind up to go ahead with the purchase of this model!!
Traded my 2021 Accord 2.0T Touring for a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring. I've already put over 1500 miles on it and am averaging 43.6 MPG. Is it slower than the 2.0T? Yes. Do I care? No. The Hybrid is plenty quick in daily driving and I've never felt wanting for power. There's a nice pull off the line with the traction motor assisting and it'll get you up to 50 mph in no time.
Is the 2024 Hybrid more refined? HELL YES! I can't get over how much smoother, quieter and more comfortable this new Accord is over the previous generation. The ride has a smooth solidity to it and without a transmission, the acceleration is just so fluid. The sound deadening is apparent and the new Accord is MUCH quieter than the old generation. It's very evident.
The infotainment is VASTLY better than the previous generation and the Bose audio system is much appreciated over the Honda "premium" 10-speaker system of my old Touring. There's clear vocals, solid bass and no rattles coming from anywhere in the car when it's cranked. Wireless Apple CarPlay connects almost instantaneously with very few glitches. The Google integration is slick and having Google Assistant to control temperature, heated/cooled seats, etc. is a nice touch. Sirius XM was removed but I never used it. I just use my phone to stream.
One feature that was removed is Homelink. That bummed me out but the Hondalink app has a MyQ section that allows you to control your garage door remotely through the car...for a fee. So...I'm just using my regular garage door opener remote.
I thoroughly enjoy 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring and look forward to racking up the miles and enjoying the lower operating costs.
It's the front grill area of the car that doesn't get my attention, other than that I like the car. I'm an Accord guy and would still consider the hybrid models. Awesome review 👍🏽
I love the front end grille - the color, the styling, everything. Understated and classy.
Great video as always! I have a 2013 V6 LX with 240,000 miles. The care still drives perfectly. I don't understand why Honda discontinued its most effective safety feature, which Hyundai has now taken advantage of. I'm referring to the side view camera mounted on the passenger side mirror, which activates when applying the right turn signal. When switching lanes, I literally never have to take my eyes off the road. And no, blind spot indicators are not the same! Sure, they let you know if a car is within 10 yards of your's, but they could be traveling 5 mph faster than you, or 50 mph faster. Hyundai has adapted this feature now for both sides of the vehicle. For this reason, I'll probably go with the Sonata if and when I Accord ever quits.
I find that camera useless in my opinion. BSM is fine but I prefer my old fashioned looking before switching lanes and that’s more effective every time.
I just saw one of these in white. Distinctive, nice.
I bought this car about 4 months ago. I have a light foot and consequently get around 45 to 46 mpg. It’s quieter than the 2020 hybrid touring I owned. My wife loves the car as I do, but she is not fond of the passenger seat. At five feet tall she almost needs a booster seat. I personally like the new look, especially the rear end. I didn’t really like the lobster claw look. The front end looks good too, but I agree with the reviewer that the plastic on the headlight should have been the same color as the car.
I have never liked white cars. The pearl white on my Touring is an exception. It looks great and doesn’t show the dirt. If I really have one complaint, the lane assist doesn’t work as well as the reviewer’s vehicle, and the tires are noisy. Otherwise I love the 2023 Honda Touring Hybrid.
It’s interesting how negative people are about the design. Personally, I like it. It’s very simple, conservative, minimalist, and refined. I think it will age well but admittedly I like Levi’s and T shirts instead of trendy fashions. The way it drives and the comfort of the seats sold me instantly.
I find that the negativity comes from people who don't want it to compare favorably to the Toyota system. Which they accept, on faith alone, as "the hybrid king." The fact is that, in equivalent cars, the Honda is as good or better in just about every way.
Yes, I know that mpg ratings tend to be marginally lower in the Honda lineup. But the difference is due to the rest of the car, not the hybrid system. Mostly the wheels. This is easily demonstrated by the mpg differences within each lineup. Larger wheels are harder to spin, and cause more aerodynamic drag.
The Camry comes standard with 16", or 18", wheels. The larger wheels drop EPA estimates from 51 mpg to 47 mpg (the 16"s also use narrower tires). The Accord comes standard with 17", or 19", wheels. The larger wheels drop EPA estimates from 48 mpg to 44 mpg - the same drop. When wheels size is taken into account, the difference is about 1 mpg. That's barely worth mentioning when comparing cars, but the Toyota does seem to have a very slight edge.
Or does it? A better comparison might be the Camry SE/XSE/XLE to the new Civic hybrid. Both come with 18" wheels and 235 mm wide tires, and the Civic gets 49 mpg. "BUT WAIT," I hear you cry, "THE CIVIC IS A COMPACT AND THE CAMRY IS A MIDSIZE!" Not so, according to the EPA. The midsize category is for cars with passenger+cargo volumes from 110 to 119 ft^3. At 100+15=115 ft^3, the Camry fits right in the middle. But so does the Civic, and 99+15=114 ft^3. The Accord is an EPA large c car, at 106+17=123 ft^3. The fact that it gives away only 1 mpg means it is better.
The Civic is also faster and more fun to drive. And before you mention reliability, look at unbiased ratings. The Accord and CR-V hybrids have as good, or better, reliability ratings from KBB and JDPower, than the Camry and RAV4,
@@jeffjo8732 I test drive a Rav 4 and a CRV before settling back on the Accord. I just don’t like driving an SUV as my main car. Also have a Highlander and it’s great for SUV type things. Daily it’s my Accord Sport which is quietly gaining quite the reputation for its supreme drivability and comfort.
Im gonna keep my 2018 accord 2.0t sport 10AT forever when I see this.Such a disappointing drivetrain and looks,they really nailed the 10th gen perfectly.
I said the same thing they took the fog lights away and the dual exhaust 😢
Until I drove one I would have agreed with you, now I own a 2023 Touring. Honda is emphasizing performance more in the Acura line and pilfering it out of the Honda lineup.
You're right. I got the 1.5 Touring and it has one of the nicest interior features, only wish I went with 2.0 T
Good review. I still have the 18 Touring 2.0T and love the character and power of the 2.0t. Although I’m not happy they discontinued the 2.0t w/10 spd. I’m not surprised they decided to discontinue it especially since only a few people wanted the 2.0t. I feel this seems to be more of a compromise.
Does the 2018 Accord Touring 2.0t have power adjustable passenger seat with height adjustment?
They do have power adjustment passenger seats but no hight adjustment which is only available for the driver’s seat
The Acura TLX is the performance step-up now.
Yep, and extra 10 grand for equivalent performance of a Touring 2.0T.
Grab $55K and go buy one then.
I love the color. I was glad to see the lobster claw/stapler taillights are gone, along with all that chrome on the nose of the car. Glad to see the gear shift on the floor too. I think they did a great job with this update.
For the last couple generations of accord never gets my attention on first review but my perceptions always seem to change when I see a nice trim level especially with tinted windows 🤷🏾♂️.but the new accord is really nice
mechanically it's just carryover from the last-gen. Recently I went to the dealer to check out the new Accord, the build quality is just okay...only the upper-trims give you rear air vents & charging ports... and dealers put $4k markup on these new accord hybrids
last year i rented a previous-gen accord sport hybrid for a long roadtrip, similar mpg, the interior quality feels better built.
Honda did a good job with the accord and keeping it safe and efficient. I wish they would have given a panoramic roof to this model and some better leather design in the seats.
Nor sure why ‘more aggressive’ is used almost synonymously with better looking, or why a 'less aggressive’ front styling is seen a a step backwards?
Brake torquing does absolutely nothing *_mechanical_* to this car. It may have been programmed into software to skip the "fake shifts." I can't say for sure. But as you point out, your 0-60 test where you used brake-torquing - excuse me, where you used the pedals like you would for brake torquing but the ICE was not running so you did nothing mechanical - did not have the fake shifts.
The only possible reasons for the time advantage you observed are (1) the hill you were climbing, (2) the battery may have started out in a lower State-of-Charge (SoC), or (3) the momentary, and completely unnecessary, drops in the production of electrical power that trick you into thinking there is anything like a shift happening. It sounds so much better with brake shifts, but it sacrifices both acceleration and fuel economy.
Think about it: Which do you want to have in your vehicle? Sound that fools you into thinking you have a certain degree of performance, or that performance? Because it is the public opinion that favors sound over actual performance that drove the design of this car, and the result you observed.
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To understand this, you need to correct some of your misunderstandings.
One is the difference between where power comes from, and how it is utilized. Conversion of stored energy into power is done by the ICE and/or the battery. Conversion of this power to the form needed at the wheels, and sending it to the wheels, is done by the transmission system. In fact, the technically-correct definition of "transmission" is this process. So the motor in any EV is part of the transmission system, not the power plant. In an ICEV, changing the gear ratio of the transmission process is a secondary purpose. But it is the only part the driver interacts with, so most think it is the only purpose.
This difference is what distinguishes the three drive modes this car has (my numbers will apply to the GEN10 hybrid; they might change a very tiny bit in this GEN11, but the concepts are identical):
EV Drive: The 181 HP motor is powered by the battery alone. Power is limited by what it can produce, and can vary quite a bit with the SoC in the small battery.
Hybrid Drive: The 181 HP motor is powered by a combination of the ICE-driven generator and the battery. It is no different than EV Drive, except that there is more power, and more consistent power, available. This is the "eCVT" mode, but a better name is "virtual CVT." There is no mechanical connection between the ICE and the wheels. You can calculate the ratio of ICE rpm to countershaft rpm, and it does vary continuously, but the number has no physical meaning.
Engine Drive: The ICE is connected to the countershaft with a direct-drive transmission; that is, it is not the "eCVT" mode. ICE RPM = 37*MPH. This mode is used only in a situation where a conventional ICEV would use its overdrive gear - in fact, that is what the gear in the transaxle is called. It plays no part in your acceleration tests.
So when you said (18:10) "It's technically an eCVT. It functions like a direct drive transmission" you were describing two entirely different modes, and one was not being used for what you were talking about.
This is an electric vehicle. It is not a *_Battery_* EV, it is a *_Battery_* *_and_* *_Generator_* EV. The simulated shifts serve no purpose except to appease the gearheads who want to hear the car lose power momentarily in order to get into a better position in the power band. Guess what - an EV does not have one. If you want all of the performance it is capable of, you need to stop thinking of it as an ICE vehicle, where the sound it make is indicative of how well it is doing. It is an EV.
Great explanation, this is where the car is so much different than Toyota.. so much better IMO
OMG.....you have a lot of time on your hands. LOL.
I'm about to purchase a used Acura RLX sport hybrid (for the price of an LX Accord} which is one of the smoothest vehicles Acura/Honda has ever made. This is my second choice if that falls through.
I really liked the aggressive Audi like look of the prior Accord and didn’t care for this redesign at first. What I realized is how much this Accord resembles or shares styling with the 2nd Gen like 1983, 1984, 1985 Accord Hatchback. The front styling clues have a clear resemblance with the brunt front nose, that unpainted piece at the grill you don’t like and even the reflective LEDs have a square look to them when they are on. I have grown to appreciate the design a lot more.
Thank you for such a informative video, which made my decision really clear on this honda accord
I think it looks better than the previous version! I don't like the lack of a spare tire though!
Nobody needs a spare anymore. You can toss a couple in the back seat I suppose.
There's space for a spare, but Honda cheaper out and makes you buy one sep
I can't wait to see what they're gonna do with the 2024 model. I'm crossing my fingers that they offer a panoramic sunroof. I wish the touring had a black headliner as well its only on the sport models
No one uses pano. Another gimmick that compromises the structural integrity of the car
I drove this one last week, I loved it more than I thought I would. My daily driver is a 2018 LX which I adore, but the new one is obviously more equipped and is more refined. I absolutely loved it. But the price is a little too much, tbh.
It looks very classy and cool looking Honda Accord.I Love It....
You might like it but as a disabled driver I totally hate that they got rid of push button gear selector. I cannot squeeze the front trigger on that knob. Every car maker is doing it is the reason I have trouble renting cars. Can't shift them anymore...
No one cares buddy natural selection
Reminds me of a Costco A7. Which is a compliment. Costco has good quality at a value.
My guess is a hybrid plus or PHEV is in the works to replace 2.0t. I predict similar for next gen Camry, where the flagship powertrain will be either Prime or hybrid plus. 2.4t might not meet emissions regulations, which is stricter for sedans.
There’s already a PHEV Accord in China. I hope it’s coming by MMC. If it’s somewhat sportier than the hybrid and retains its efficiency, it’ll make this car much more interesting for the Honda enthusiasts.
Reason I bought the last year with V6 sport touring bad ass car and my civic 2013 has over 100k no problems yet on either car and Hondas know to take care of recalls and keep there word on warranty
I saw one on a back road yday. Was nice and futuristic looking in person vs video
Thanks for the great review, in your opinion what is the best color on the Honda Accord? And do you recommend buying the hybrid version?!
Nice video keep up the good work Redline
It’s not these companies voluntarily going hybrid or electric it’s the government forcing it. This car looks nice and I like the interior I am not a fan of the screens though but I also don’t like them on any other car.
I might be one of the very few who likes the look of this over the previous gen. They both look better than the Camry to me.
Idk why people hate on this design. It’s more classy then the last gen. Last gen feels like a kids car in their early 20s compared to this new one.
Really surprised this wasn’t AWD with it being a hybrid. Really would have been a standout feature had they done so, especially considering it has 2 e-motors.
Honda doesn’t need AWD
They make some of the best driving cars in the industry so AWD isn’t needed. The CTR doesn’t have AWD yet it drives better than some AWD cars
@@naveenthemachine To each their own. It rains too often here in Florida with very strong winds not to warrant AWD on a vehicle if you can afford it. I’ve had both RWD and FWD over the last couple years and while FWD is obviously safer, AWD will always be preferred when our afternoon monsoons hit lol. It’s also nice when going to the beach here so you don’t get stuck in the sand on occasion.
Toyota Camry hybrid >>
@@andersonrodriguez8258 Interior isn’t my cup of tea unfortunately.
@@naveenthemachine They offer AWD in the CR-V though, if I'm not mistaken.
I'd go with the black interior in a heartbeat. Anything lighter shows dirt far more often and is harder to keep clean.
I like it. Hopefully less recalls than the prior generation, but we will wait and see.
I think the 10th generation is better looking, lobster claw tail lights and all. However, I still like the look of this new model. I'm digging the simplicity of the styling. Reminds me of the simple beautiful designs Mazda has atm. This new Accord has a lot of potential but I must say that the lower trims in mundane colors and smaller wheels look awful. This thing in base trim with the 17s in white looks like an unmarked Ford Interceptor Sedan🤮. Lower trims on the 10th generation still look sharp in comparison.
The current gen looks like crap. It will get old super fast and I think the resell value will fall off a cliff
@@FirstnameLastname-gy4bz time will tell🤷🏾
@@Mistadontplay89 you don't need time to tell the current gen looks fugly
I drive a lot more than I used to and I don’t want to put miles on my various Lexus LS models and my sports cars… I just bought a 24 sport hybrid as a commuter. Fuel economy as a number doesn’t matter to me as much as the range (hence the LS collection), and I get about 450+ miles a tank with mine driving spiritedly. I might be getting old because I see myself keeping this one for more than a year like most of my other cars I am not collecting 😂
They tried to make the front end like New Acura but ended up making it look like Taurus... Still a nice sleek design and rear design of the vehicle is far better than the previous generation.
I think this looks better then the previous accord. But the current civic is better looking.
Excellent review!
Thanks for the review. I just got one of these cars yesterday. What is brake torquing and how exactly is it done?
2.5 k likes goes to me thanks for the video great job as usual
When you said "ok Google", it activated Google assistant on my phone!
Same here! 😂
Man this is probably the most beautiful Honda ever! It’s elegant and serene while also strong and aggressive at the same time. Modern, yet classic. Can’t understand why some people would prefer the childish, laughable angry face designs with nonsense creases everywhere instead. I hope this is the beginning of a new look for Honda!
This vehicle in that metallic white or red along with light color interior is sharp.
I love the design ❤
Hey Sofyan, great rewiew as always. Would you please review the new VW Arteon. You are inching towards a Million Subscribers, wishing you best of luck!
Arteon is going bye bye.
I am surprised Honda actually changed back to the stick shifter from buttons. Not many car companies are willing to go back to the old design even though the old design is better :)
And I am disappointed that they caved in to reviewers who didn't want to change their habits. The buttons are more intuitive (what feels right, as opposed to what is learned), more versatile (the car can change settings automatically, like shifting into park when you turn the car off), easier (you only use two settings with any frequency; reverse is found by swiping your hand down the array, and drive has a huge, self-centering rim), and doesn't take up space that can be useful.
Great camera angle at the beginning buddy
The people that Hate are not the BUYERS of the Accord.
Or think it's ugly. I'd take the 2022 version.
I'd love me some "AGGRESSION-molded plastic" at 10:04! 🤣
Honda should make an Accord Liftback or Accord Wagon, with the same low center of mass. It would be as practical as a CRV, but with better handling and fuel efficiency. The reason the Crosstour flopped is because it had a higher center of mass.
Simple fix for the plain exterior … get the optional Aero Trim kit installed. Makes a big different and looks more sporty/aggressive.
looks great to me
This looks better in person in the sport trim or above. I do wish they had more color options for the interior instead of black and gray
It looks the same downgraded mess in person
I thought it looked worse in person
The tech on this one is amazing. Super good gas mileage.However the absence of a 360 camera just boggles me. My thinking is that it would have taken a lot of sales from their Acura division vehicles.
Yup and with the mdx still not hitting 100k per year Acura could go bye bye soon
I own the Sonic Gray Pearl 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring and love the looks much more than the 2023 model, especially the wheels. Not liking this years model at all, but I do like the rear lights. Also, I can’t understand why the 2022 didn’t come with a Bose system…I was very disappointed when I saw there was no Bose in my car.
dont be jelly
The new design looks nice. I have a 2017 Touring and I think this one looks far better than the generation in between. But it’s just not an exciting design. What gets me is that Accord is more advanced and better equipped than the Acura TLX now, until there is a key 24 refresh coming to correct that.
I had a 2019 Honda Accord Touring Hybrid, I had nothing but problems with it. I went to 3 local dealerships to deal with multiple problems (sometimes all three dealers for one problem) and their customer service was TRASH and I ended up trading off my car after having it only 7 months/5k miles. My one and only Honda car and experience has led me to swear off the brand forever and recommend those who ask to buy another brand, period.
You were unlucky dude
This might be nitpicking but the back of the front seats are fugly as hell. Does it come in different colored interior choices?
Acura should've used this powertrain for the base Integra CVT. It might not be as exciting to drive as the 6MT, but at least you could argue that it's quicker.
The design took a step back, I’m still undecided between the Accord and the Camry because of the Ford Taurus front end.
Listen and I say this with much respect. The drab comment in relation to the color without regard to quality and fit/finish is beyond me. This is why race continues to be an issue. Focus on quality and useability. Your opinion matters not.❤❤ ❤
It’s true that in winter and the cold car does not respond, it happened to me in a Ford Fusion Hybrid and I have heard that it also happens in Honda Accord Hybrid, is it true? I will appreciate your opinion.