I bought the accord touring. After watching your review on it. And I can say, it's an absolutely amazing car! After 8 months of ownership it's averaging 5.1 l per 100. Build quality is great. I don't believe there's a car under $50,000. I would take ahead of it.
The minor differences between the Accord and the Camry are essentially , which angels are dancing on the head of a pin, with one important exception. The Camry has a temporary spare . This is extremely important . I had an Accord with the so called “ tire repair kit”. It left me stranded so many times that I would never , ever buy a car without a spare. Imagine , if you will, having to call a flat bed tow truck every single time you have a flat ! On a positive note, I think your show and your car analysis is simply the most entertaining and reliable source of automotive information available . Thank you !
Zack mentioned he doesn't care for the Toyota screen. In my Toyota I set the screen to always maintain night mode. It's less distracting and a bit more attractive. If using the navigation (Car Play) then I'll go back to day mode. Thanks for this comparison video.
I recently pulled a 2025 Camry Hybrid as a rental car with less than 500km. I was ANNOYED at how good it was. Hard pressed to beat this vehicle if your goal is a comfortable, efficient driving appliance. I averaged 49mpg over a week of driving!
And forgot to thank you for all your reviews and vehicle comparisons done. I am a big fan and really love the way you both do it and help people in making the right decisions.
Recently, I was in the process of choosing a sedan for myself, and the Accord and Camry were the primary choices. I found one option that excludes Accord from this list - the passenger chair doesn't have a height adjustment. We do long trips from Minnesota to Toronto quite often, and this chair is absolutely inconvenient for such trips. And AWD is a great option for the snowbelt region.
I think it’s a 34hp electric motor that spends most of its time just being along for the ride. So I’m not even sure when it activates at all beyond when front wheel slip is detected. It definitely doesn’t sound like it’s playing a full role lie Quattro or Xdrive or SHAWD….It sounds like a nice way to pay 1500 up front and to just leave all season tires on instead of sitting at the stupid tire shop because snow is in the forecast.
@@JacobStiegel It was a question about whether this particular part time AWD is worth 1500 dollars and the extra weight outside the snow belt. Does this system contribute in a meaningful way to dry pavement handling? It doesn’t sound like it does much but prevent a couple fractions of a second of front tire squeal when you mash the accelerator from a full stop. So if you don’t need it for snow and ice, or if you are planning on running snow tires, is it actually important to choose the option or are you better off not?
I like both and have always liked both so this is a perpetual (very) tough choice! Yet, when I reflect on my purchasing history (have had both Toyotas and Honda/Acura) that "driver's car" element always tows me over to Honda while the better mileage tugs me in Camry's direction! My first choice varies by the day!
Both are nice cars, but I definitely liked the look of the previous generation Accord over the new one. Living in WV, I appreciate the AWD option on the Camry. As always, awesome job on the comparison!
Watching this after just returning from both a Toyota and Honda dealer and trying to get the past the possible deal-breaker for me of the all-black interiors so prevalent in the Cdn market. That is another aspect of choice we seem to be missing here. At Toyota, I asked about red interiors as I didn't see any: "most people don't want one." Guess I'm different.
I am reading the accord hybrid system is smoother than the Camry‘s. Being a owner of the new generation five system what is your thoughts how is it been for you? Appreciate any feedback.
Thank you for posting and reviewing the two most famous cars in this segment. They surely are the best in the segment and give each other a hard fight. Both have their own pros and cons. Camry has better exterior face and Accord has got better interiors. I agree with your take about it and personally feel that interiors are more important as that is what you’ll see and feel while driving the car. Missing spare tire is definitely a downer but it might not be a big deal for somebody living in clean areas with less flat tyres 😅 I drive a Tiguan high line 2021 and would definitely go with Accord as a second car for a more relaxed and enjoying drive.
We just did this comparison with a XSE rental driving around Oregon for a week vacation, and then testing an Accord Touring for a short test drive when we got home to Ohio. Toyota got 50 mpg driving around the Willamette Valley alone, which dropped to 45 with four passengers. We got an impressive 47 mpg on a run out the Columbia Gorge, up Mt Hood and back to Portland on 26 which was a good blend of highway, elevation and city miles. We found XSE interior good and seat bottom bolstering a little hard for my wide butt. Our rental had the base radio which was just ok. When driving you don't notice the shinny plastic air vents on the dash. The Accord Touring was a 30 minute test drive around Columbus and we liked the interior much more, (better materials and design) and seats more with the exception that the passenger seat which was REALLY low for both me and my wife. It puts your knees high and limits visibility. It's like your sitting in a hole, not good for the road trips we are planning. The Bose stereo sounded much better vs the XSE base stereo. Then we drove a CRV Sport Touring the same day and liked it better than both cars! I think we will keep my 15 year old Volvo S80 because I still like it, and get rid of my wife's 9 year old XC60 for the CRV hybrid. Or save our money for a year and see what the new RAV 4 brings.
In my experience the Accord's seats are quite uncomfortable as you described. The CRV on the other hand was quite a bit better and would certainly pick if I was looking for a crossover.
What a great review. I'd love to see what you and your wife would think of the Crown. I'm thinking about getting rid of my Accord and one of the reasons is the seat. I had an Acura TL about 20 years ago and the seats were AMAZING. Even my friend who always has a BMW or Mercedes would comment on how comfy the seats were.
Here is a follow up to my original reply. This week we test drove a Crown Signia XLE and Civic hybrid hatchback Sport Touring. Sort of an apples to oranges comparison but it's because we are going to be replacing a car and SUV in the next couple of years. The Crown Signia was a nice space and roomy. People say the interior is near Lexus but the black color, plastic texturing and sturdiness did not wow us. You do hear the kind of rattly four cylinder. It's still on our list, but we will wait to compare the Mazda hybrid. The Civic hit the sweet spot, great seats, spacious hatch cargo area (big selling point vs Accord), quiet enough on the highway, feels like a regular automatic, interior build sturdiness better than Camry. I ordered one, expecting it in December.
This latest Accord is a car that would perhaps benefit from a body kit that isn't fast and furious aggressive. Something akin to what Toyota did with the 2008 Corolla S was it. The Camry is definitely this generations winner. I hope the seats are comfortable for everyone though.
As someone who always had Honda vehicles and motorcycles, I would take the AWD Camry in a heart beat. Plus I think the styling is much nicer. IMHO, the previous Accord was the best looking model, inside and out. Cheers from Cape Breton!
Great comparison video! The new Camry’s exterior styling is growing on me but it’s the interior refresh that’s making me regret not waiting for this model year’s launch (currently driving the ‘24 XLE model).
AWD! Coming from Saskatchewan AWD is more of a must although not having heated rear seats is a real miss for me. Styling wise I agree with Zach, Honda is boring and the Camry a little over the top. Would probably still go with the Camry. Thanks for doing the comparison videos and I hope you do more in the future.
My kids love the heated seats at the back on the accord and that made it worth it. Also love the quietness and when I need a bit of noise the Bose was a better audio than that Camry JBL(yes I tried the audio on the Toyota lot).
Same here! I’m 64 years old and the XLe is my cup of tea with a premium package that includes rain sensing wipers and memory seats which is exclusive to XLE
Why don't you guys look into a Rav4 or CRV as a great vehicle for retirement. As you grow older, it is easier to get in and out of a vehicle that is a bit higher off the floor. The Camry or Accors are both low.
In the US, there are plenty of Accord hybrids on dealer lots and deals are available as well. Toyota dealers have precious little inventory and Camrys are selling at or above MSRP.
Couple months back I went to test drive the accord, the dealer had a ton of them on the lot. I then went to test drive the accord, they only had one se trim that was pending sale. After test driving both back to back, I felt the Camry had a more comfortable drive. Fast forward today, I’ve had my 2025 Camry xle for a month now.
I got $2600 under MSRP on my Camry SE. But I had two Toyota dealerships 30 miles from each that I played against each other for the deal. I also got them to throw in a few free packages as well.
When evaluating vehicles can you mention if said vehicle has things like heads up,display available? As well, pls address the seating position in vehicles, esp cars. As a long time civic buyer i find increasingly with each redo i am sitting lower and lower to the point that now in my current civic i feel as if i am sitting on the tarmac. I recently purchased a sub compact cuv as i am tired of feeling as if i am looking out a tank turret while sitting on the ground. Sedans of yore had reasonable hip points but no longer...is it any wonder folks are buying cuvs and suvs?
🇺🇲🇨🇦 if you go into settings. You can change the background on the Camry to Black. The contrast may even be better. I drove both cars before purchasing.
I missed those comparison test videos. Accord has always been an unbeatable benchmark in this segment, its a sports car of a family sedan. But when it comes to hybrid, Toyota is second to none. Honda's system has never been lived up to its expectation. Especially for a company known for excellence in engineering. I would take a Camry XSE hybrid over an equivalent Accord Touring hybrid. That's coming from someone, who loves driving Accord (especially those with MT). But has a couple of Camry hybrid as a company car over the years. Latest is the 2015 Camry XLE.
I heard that the main difference in the two hybrid systems is that the Camry gets powered directly by the internal combustion engine when it is running. The Accord internal combustion engine just charges the battery and the battery powers the car. As a result the Accord is a little smoother in power application, but not as fast.
I like the Accord’s Audi like exterior and interior design better than the Camry. I also like firmer steering and a sportier ride on the Accord. AWD is not needed for me and I don’t drive that much so the gas mileage difference is a non issue. I haven’t had a car with a spare tire in many years . Most had run flats or a kit. But for the most value an Altima SR with Premium package is a terrific choice for those not so concerned about gas mileage. The exterior and interior looks of the Altima is fine for me and it drives very well. Plus for those that require AWD , Altima offers that option. If money wasn’t an issue , Accord would be my first choice. But with inflation out of control , Altima strikes the right balance .
Can’t beat AWD and better fuel economy in the Camry. To top it off, the Camry has rear seat air vents on all trims. The Accord only has it on the Touring trim. I’m pretty sure the Accord is a great driving car and the google assistant (again only on the Touring trim) would be great to have, but fwd, no spare tire and having to pay extra so your kids in the back get some A/C (I’m in Florida) or heat for Canadian winters, it doesn’t even compete. The Hybrid system on the Camry is far superior as well, especially for City driving imo. I have a RAV4 hybrid and love it. Thanks for all the great content.
I don't think the difference in reliability would be all that big. The Honda Accord ranks right up there. Also, you have to look at the way people drive - Back in the day Toyota Tercel ranked number 1 most reliable and the Honda Civic was number two - but kids bought Civics - they did donuts in parking lots. Grannies bought Tercels. People drove Civics far harder because the car was far more capable. Normally, I'm with you - reliability all day over buying American or the Germans but if a car is in the top 5 and the 5th most reliable car is better at everything else I'd sacrifice some reliability for performance, features, comfort etc. The problem is that car reviewers (including Zach and Andrea) tend to value performance and driving dynamics more than reliability. After all, people who love cars tend to love them FOR their driving dynamics, power etc. The average buyer doesn't so I like that Zach and Andrea as well as Savagegeese reviewers try to look at it from the average person's perspective AND the enthusiast's perspective. Perhaps it would help the viewer to know "how much better" the Accord is at handling - is the Accord a 7.5/10 and the Toyota is 6.5/10 or is the Camry a 2/10? If it's 6.5/10 then given the panoramic sunroof and the red or grey interior options, spare tire, better mileage, and more and better exterior paint option then I'll take the Camry - if the Camry totally blows compared to the Accord then maybe that's a different conversation. If the Camry drives like an SUV - then for the same money may as well just buy an SUV since they'll get better resale value and offer more capability. An Enthusiast will notice the performance/handling driving them back to back - will the average person care?
Great comparison. I'm actually in the minority here, because I like the understated Accord look. However, I would choose the Camry for the complete package it offers.
Honda has really gone conservative with their styling in all of their models! I hate to say it, but Toyota has caught up to and surpassed Honda in the styling department!
That's what many people think. It's based on popular belief, not facts. From KBB, and going back to 2018, the first year of the last generation, since it is more meaningful in older cars and they were both new releases. The Accord gets a 4.4 out of 5, and the Camry gets 4.1. For the 2020 SUVs, the CR-V gets 4.5, while the RAV4 gets 3.8. JDPower had a system that only whole numbers in the range 1-5. That changed in 2020, to 0-100. Both sedans get an 82. For the SUVs, the CR-V gets 79, while the RAV4 gets 74. Repairpal only rates the models, without years or powertrains. The Accord gets a 4 1/2 out of 5 while the Camry gets a 4. The SUVs get the same ratings.
I believe you may have misspoke when you said that the Accord gasoline engine is driving pretty much the whole time. The gasoline engine in the Accord is only driving a generator and can only be directly coupled to the drive wheel at higher speeds. Pretty much the whole time an electric drive motor is propelling the vehicle. Unlike the Toyota, it’s very often only the electric drive motor driving the wheels and if you hear the gas engine turning, it’s probably only working as an electric generator.
I've been a lifelong honda/acura fan but they've really lost their direction the last few years. First, the styling on the accord is just bad, thankfully the civic is much better. Secondly, they really screwed over themselves by not offering hybrids with acura. I would love to get a MDX hybrid but they don't offer it! Hondas/acuras are great handling cars but their fuel economy has always been subpar.
I know it's a dying segment, but I think if you want a mid-size sedan, the Camry is pretty tough to beat. This class of vehicle is meant to be a family sedan, get people from A to B, be reliable and affordable (to buy and own). While the Accord Hybrid may have a slight edge in "driving dynamics", I don't think that's likely high on buyer's checklists in this segment. I think the Camry beats it on every category people in this segment are looking for. That said, it's not that the Accord Hybrid is bad (it's still a great car), I just think Toyota really executed on the key factors for a car in this class. Several trim options, AWD, fuel efficient hybrid, reliable, high resale, low cost of ownership. They'll sell every single one they have on the lot.
@@janoycresnova9156 You're getting pretty specific on those items so if you're looking for something the Accord wins you'll find it. While the cargo capacity is larger in the Accord, it's only a difference 1.6 cubic feet. Also, while the Accord does have 2.8 more inches of rear legroom, the Camry has 1.3 inches more legroom up front. As I said before, the Accord is a great option so it's not like anyone is saying the Accord isn't any good. But in terms of the things most people look for when buying, the Camry is very compelling. More trims (in Canada) so might be easier to find something in your budget. Better fuel economy and AWD option. I doubt most people would use the infotainment as a deciding factor between the two (it's not like the Toyota one is terrible anyway).
Seats appear short on thigh support, that was a big drawback on a Prius years ago. The power adjustable thigh support is one of the nicest features of some Volvo seats.
It will be interesting to see which of these cars Consumer Reports chooses for best pick in a sedan. I bought the 2025 Camry LE (the only LE that our local dealer had at the time and in fact has had on the lot since I purchased my car.) While the Camry LE is not "sporty" it handles well and has ample power. The ride is much more tied down than my wife's 2013 Camry LE i.e. floaty and noticeable body roll when cornering. The fact remains that the SE and XSE and by far the best sellers.
I would go for the Camera. Love the interior and a panoramic roof. Fuel economy is the plus! Too bad it's not priced a bit lower, especially seeing they don't sell as well as SUV
I just wish the Camry XSE wasn’t so damn expensive in Canada! With taxes and delivery fees, yikes! I’ve even been looking for a used XSE, even a gas model, they’re hard to come by!
As a owner of 2022 Toyota RAV4 prime, I would like to try Honda hybrid system for my next car. I feel Toyota sometime cut corner on their products. RAV4 prime has TPMS in the States but Toyota removed the TPMS in Canada. I was driving on highway with flat tires for a while and I didn't aware of that until I got off the highway. I was lucky that we didn't get into any accidents. $60k prime doesn't have TPMS? Come on...
Just another thing to break, buy an ANALOGUE guage and a tire inflator and check your tires yourself at home once a month. If your tire was that flat on the highway you would notice it in the steering and you would've noticed it in a pretrip visual inspection.
If I could I’d put the Accord interior in the Camry and buy the Camry. Also, I priced two hybrid models in the US and the Camry comes out cheaper by over $2k, but out the door they’re both gonna cost over $40k and that’s a real bummer. Dealers really need to stop gouging us with zero-value fees!!
The Camry Hybrid has more power 225-232hp vs. Honda' Accord Hybrids 204hp for roughly the same fuel economy. If you live in an area in Canada that requires AWD the camry offers it. The Camry also comes with a spare tire (very important!). Has anyone ever been happy to use a tire repair kit on the side of the highway? Toyota's hybrid system and E-CVT are more refined and they can run both the gas and hybrid motor at the same time. I think the camry's exterior definately looks better. What's most important is TEST DRIVE both cars in the trim you'd like to purchase and get what you like!
Honda repair kit ??? = deal breaker !!! This is coming from a Honda owner with a sidewall gash from a pothole, waited 4 hours for a tow at 3:00 AM!! Please I need a spare tire, even a temporary spare will do, how can you do a road trip without a spare tire ??? Also living in the Midwest AWD is definitely a plus
I understand the Accord does not come with a spare tire. But what I want to know is: Does it at least have the indentation space under the trunk for a "donut" tire, if one wishes to purchase a third-party spare? Other cars I've seen with the flat fix repair kit still have the space for the spare, but only the kit sits there
Still can't make up my mind. I like the look of both, although the colors offered on the Toyotas are far superior. I miss the AWD option and spare tire on the Accord, although I heard you CAN ask a dealership to install one. Remember that the gas model Accord has a spire tire, which has been eliminated in the hybrid models due to the space taken up by the batteries. I imagine you'd lose some precious cargo capacity in that case. The Accord has a higher quality interior and a significant advantage in passenger space, although I love the overall design in both. The Toyota also has a better cooling setup for its batteries. The Toyota's direct injection system is also better at riding itself of carbon than the Honda. I suppose on paper the Toyota has the overall best mix of qualities, I guess it will boil down to the test drive - which one is more comfortable and which one has the better interior environment and stereo?
The Only thing the honda accord needs to do now is once add a Panoramic roof, Give the Accord touring and EXL more power like 230-250 hp then they would have a clear choice to choose from. Both are similar I do think and well sell to it’s loyalist supporters for sure. I like the styling of the Accord a bit better but still give the Camry much respect .
If you want the lowest-priced Camry Hybrid, and you live in Canada, the only choice you have is 1980's-style VINYL seats. No cloth option available, and only leather if you spend a few thousand more for the higher trims.
Both vehicles are excellent. Both are quite expensive. The Camry LE offers the best value and price. Anything else is a toss-up. The Accord is larger. Drives better. More classy. The Camry offers AWD. It is faster. More appealing to buys as a value option than the Accord. You xamnot go wrong with any of them. Buy what you want. They both are very reliable vehicles that would last you forever.
In Alberta, Toyota dealers seem to be sticking to msrp although there is a wait time on most vehicles, but Honda is asking for more than msrp. They are asking for almost $3000.00 more for a CIVIC Touring Hybrid by forcing add on items.
In Calgary Toyota Dealers will sell for MSRP + $999 Doc fee ( least amount of dealer greed for a BS charge) but I've been told delivery could be up to a year.I have an SE AWD on order. If I want one now they are available for the bargain price of $8000 to $10000 over MSRP from unscrupulous Dealers . For me I know the Camry is a transportation device & the Honda is a better drive but it doesn't have AWD, NO spare tire, pricing is too high & boring styling made me wait for a Camry.I suspect long term reliability of the Camry will probably be true as not many Honda's are used by Uber & taxi drivers. Hope the 2025 Camry stays as quiet & rattle free in the long run. Almost every Camry uber or taxi I have been in is a rattle trap but they do go on forever.
I've test driven the Touring Accord. It handled very nicely, but my issues were the vented seats didn't work very well! They dropped SirusXM radio & NO HomeLink mirror options. That on top of the lower MPG, ends up making it a hard pass. Now it's down to the Camry & Sonata.
It's nice to see a comparison video of two good old family sedans. Don't mean to sound like an old codger but, anyone else getting tired of seeing CUVs & SUVs that are soulless and all look alike?
I prefer the Camry red interior over many interiors in cars.. For me the Acoord is dull and gloomy inside. However, I feel given the preference of customers to shop for SUV, these sedans are priced too high. Good sized sedans at a lower price than an SUV would sell much better. However, when they touch 48k in Canada, there’s too many SUV options in that price range. The better bank for buck might actually be the new Civic.. it’s not that small compared to a Camry.
I agree - looking at the Camry myself but for around the same price I could get the absolute top-of-the-line Subaru Outback Premier XT. I know it's not the same thing - it obviously doesn't get the gas mileage nor will it have the driving dynamics of either Sedan here but it is way more capable off-road and in the Canadian snow with far better AWD. Has more space etc and probably has higher resale value (just because they're popular in Canada). And the Subaru will be coming next year with Toyota's Hybrid set-up so perhaps the fuel mileage will get considerably closer to the Sedans.
Great comparison. I currently love my Crosstour. If I had to get a car right now, it'd be the Crown Signia. That said, I like the driving dynamics of the Hondas better along with the infotainment system (I agree that the Toyota GUI is too bright and washed out), so I'm reeeeeally hoping they come out with a new Crosstour wagon (with a HUD) to compete with the Signia. Any rumors of an accord wagon in some form or at the very least an AWD accord?
They said the Accord has a more quiet cabin even though most reviewers on youtube which have tested both cars have said the Camry is quieter. I wonder what they are basing this claim on.
Two deal breakers for me on the Accord…first no spare tire. Next no satellite radio (“our customers prefer streaming” a rep told me 😂). No AWD? Low fuel economy? Higher pricing? Camry is the no brainer winner in my opinion!
You can put a spare in the well if you want. Honda leaves it out for safety; Toyota doesn't care. Yes, you can stream. In fact, you probably do when not in the car. AND, you get better service than from Sirius. Have you looked at reviews of just how ineffective that AWD is? Especially in a sedan? 3 mpg is not as big a difference near 50 mpg as it is at 25 mpg. But if it matters, _trade_ _down_ to the 17" wheels, and the Accord gets better mpg than the Camrys on 18" wheels. In a larger car. Or better, get the same-size-as-Camry Civic Hybrid. I'm guessing you are looking at MSRP for "comparable" trims. Guess what - for the Camry, you have to buy expensive packages to get the features that make them "comparable," and then the Camry has "higher pricing." Yes, Toyota does try to attract the people who don't use their brain.
They leave out the spare tire for safety? Who are you trying to fool…safety is having a spare tire. Cheapness is leaving it out. Streaming is better than Sstellite radio? You must be the lucky 1 in a million that never drives in areas with poor cell phone coverage. You must be a Honda PR person trying to spin crap into gold!
@@guybyny In a collision, it slams into the hybrid battery. That's why the non-hybrids have a spare, but the hybrids don't. If it was cost or weight, neither would have a spare. Like I said, you can use your brain.
In the U.S. the Accord not only doesn't include a heated steering wheel as standard, it's not available at all, even in the top of the line Touring trim. Also, one thing you didn't mention was how much quicker everywhere the Camry is over the underpowered Accord. Doesn't matter whether it's leaving the line, merging onto the highway, roll ons, exiting a corner, or top end, the Camry simply runs away from the pokey Accord, and does so while always achieving superior fuel mileage. Lastly, the Accord employs direct injection only, so its intake valves will suffer from carbon buildup that will eventually necessitate digging into the engine to clean those gunked-up valves. The Camry uses Toyota's D-4S port and direct injection system, eliminating carbon buildup on the intake valves. In terms of engine longevity and overall cost of maintenance, it's a much better system.
@@memcrew1 Because that torque number for the Camry is incomplete. It doesn’t include and combine the output of the gas motor and the electric motors. Toyota doesn’t list the total torque output for their pure hybrids. Watch any video that pits the Camry and Accord head to head, such as the Throttle House comparison. It doesn’t matter what type of race it is, the Camry easily walks away from the Accord. It’s not even close.
Like others, these are 2 vehicles on my short list. Overall the Camry would seem to win on points but if the Accord came in with other interior colours other than black then my decision becomes more difficult. Adding a spare tire would also increase the value proposition.
The Accord seems to have a better-quality interior. I bought a Camry. With the Camry, I got better mileage, real spare tire, Toyota quality reputation. Also, the Camry is a few inches shorter than the Accord making the Camry is a bit easier to park. So far, I like my new Camry.
I bought the accord touring. After watching your review on it. And I can say, it's an absolutely amazing car! After 8 months of ownership it's averaging 5.1 l per 100. Build quality is great. I don't believe there's a car under $50,000. I would take ahead of it.
The minor differences between the Accord and the Camry are essentially , which angels are dancing on the head of a pin, with one important exception.
The Camry has a temporary spare . This is extremely important .
I had an Accord with the so called “ tire repair kit”. It left me stranded so many times that I would never , ever buy a car without a spare. Imagine , if you will, having to call a flat bed tow truck every single time you have a flat !
On a positive note, I think your show and your car analysis is simply the most entertaining and reliable source of automotive information available . Thank you !
More accurately, they will advertise features that come only in expensive packages.
Zack mentioned he doesn't care for the Toyota screen. In my Toyota I set the screen to always maintain night mode. It's less distracting and a bit more attractive. If using the navigation (Car Play) then I'll go back to day mode. Thanks for this comparison video.
The spare wheel is a massive point in the Toyota favour for me.
I recently pulled a 2025 Camry Hybrid as a rental car with less than 500km. I was ANNOYED at how good it was. Hard pressed to beat this vehicle if your goal is a comfortable, efficient driving appliance. I averaged 49mpg over a week of driving!
Same..
Rental blew me away
This video is precisely what fans of Japanese sedans need. Great job!
I’d go for the Camry for its AWD, after the grill gets its braces off.
I think Camry is a winner in interior design and has mileage is very good. Great comparison Andrea. 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
And forgot to thank you for all your reviews and vehicle comparisons done. I am a big fan and really love the way you both do it and help people in making the right decisions.
Recently, I was in the process of choosing a sedan for myself, and the Accord and Camry were the primary choices. I found one option that excludes Accord from this list - the passenger chair doesn't have a height adjustment. We do long trips from Minnesota to Toronto quite often, and this chair is absolutely inconvenient for such trips. And AWD is a great option for the snowbelt region.
Camry all day, in America the Camry LE hybrid is cheaper than the civic and we get AWD. Once you drive AWD it’s hard to go back!
I think it’s a 34hp electric motor that spends most of its time just being along for the ride. So I’m not even sure when it activates at all beyond when front wheel slip is detected. It definitely doesn’t sound like it’s playing a full role lie Quattro or Xdrive or SHAWD….It sounds like a nice way to pay 1500 up front and to just leave all season tires on instead of sitting at the stupid tire shop because snow is in the forecast.
@@briancorreia2923 run all weather tires like cross climate 2 and you’ll be alright
@@JacobStiegel It was a question about whether this particular part time AWD is worth 1500 dollars and the extra weight outside the snow belt. Does this system contribute in a meaningful way to dry pavement handling? It doesn’t sound like it does much but prevent a couple fractions of a second of front tire squeal when you mash the accelerator from a full stop. So if you don’t need it for snow and ice, or if you are planning on running snow tires, is it actually important to choose the option or are you better off not?
@@briancorreia2923 don’t bother with Toyota’s eAWD if you don’t live in a snow belt.
I like both and have always liked both so this is a perpetual (very) tough choice! Yet, when I reflect on my purchasing history (have had both Toyotas and Honda/Acura) that "driver's car" element always tows me over to Honda while the better mileage tugs me in Camry's direction! My first choice varies by the day!
Both are nice cars, but I definitely liked the look of the previous generation Accord over the new one. Living in WV, I appreciate the AWD option on the Camry. As always, awesome job on the comparison!
Agreed! I owned and like the previous accord generation.
I like the comparison videos (Accord vs Camry & Rav4 vs CRV).
Those red seats are so nice
Until u see them. The red, is clownish. It’s not like the beautiful Mazda 6 red. This red is bright in your face butt ugly red. Like a clowns red lips
Watching this after just returning from both a Toyota and Honda dealer and trying to get the past the possible deal-breaker for me of the all-black interiors so prevalent in the Cdn market. That is another aspect of choice we seem to be missing here. At Toyota, I asked about red interiors as I didn't see any: "most people don't want one." Guess I'm different.
That was the one big turn off with the new Camry. Red was the "lightest" interior and they didn't have one to look at!
I’m been waiting for this all day- after yesterday’s video.
Also, the Accord looks very premium from an exterior point.
What !? Inside maybe but not the outside.
Now you can go to the bathroom!😆
Oh pls take your meds
@@foxgooddepending personal preference and artistic taste. You like Picasso but I may prefer Monet.
Got my 2025 Camry LE with convenience package for 29k OTD :)
Amazing car, I'm getting 57mpg
You can change the background to black through the touch screen. Much easier on the eyes and looks better.
I am reading the accord hybrid system is smoother than the Camry‘s. Being a owner of the new generation five system what is your thoughts how is it been for you? Appreciate any feedback.
@@jonathanratliff4780 it's fantastic. I've never driven an accord hybrid so idk about that
Nice clip of the continuously variable transmission :^]
Thank you for posting and reviewing the two most famous cars in this segment. They surely are the best in the segment and give each other a hard fight.
Both have their own pros and cons.
Camry has better exterior face and Accord has got better interiors. I agree with your take about it and personally feel that interiors are more important as that is what you’ll see and feel while driving the car.
Missing spare tire is definitely a downer but it might not be a big deal for somebody living in clean areas with less flat tyres 😅
I drive a Tiguan high line 2021 and would definitely go with Accord as a second car for a more relaxed and enjoying drive.
We just did this comparison with a XSE rental driving around Oregon for a week vacation, and then testing an Accord Touring for a short test drive when we got home to Ohio. Toyota got 50 mpg driving around the Willamette Valley alone, which dropped to 45 with four passengers. We got an impressive 47 mpg on a run out the Columbia Gorge, up Mt Hood and back to Portland on 26 which was a good blend of highway, elevation and city miles. We found XSE interior good and seat bottom bolstering a little hard for my wide butt. Our rental had the base radio which was just ok. When driving you don't notice the shinny plastic air vents on the dash. The Accord Touring was a 30 minute test drive around Columbus and we liked the interior much more, (better materials and design) and seats more with the exception that the passenger seat which was REALLY low for both me and my wife. It puts your knees high and limits visibility. It's like your sitting in a hole, not good for the road trips we are planning. The Bose stereo sounded much better vs the XSE base stereo. Then we drove a CRV Sport Touring the same day and liked it better than both cars! I think we will keep my 15 year old Volvo S80 because I still like it, and get rid of my wife's 9 year old XC60 for the CRV hybrid. Or save our money for a year and see what the new RAV 4 brings.
In my experience the Accord's seats are quite uncomfortable as you described. The CRV on the other hand was quite a bit better and would certainly pick if I was looking for a crossover.
What a great review. I'd love to see what you and your wife would think of the Crown. I'm thinking about getting rid of my Accord and one of the reasons is the seat. I had an Acura TL about 20 years ago and the seats were AMAZING. Even my friend who always has a BMW or Mercedes would comment on how comfy the seats were.
Here is a follow up to my original reply. This week we test drove a Crown Signia XLE and Civic hybrid hatchback Sport Touring. Sort of an apples to oranges comparison but it's because we are going to be replacing a car and SUV in the next couple of years. The Crown Signia was a nice space and roomy. People say the interior is near Lexus but the black color, plastic texturing and sturdiness did not wow us. You do hear the kind of rattly four cylinder. It's still on our list, but we will wait to compare the Mazda hybrid. The Civic hit the sweet spot, great seats, spacious hatch cargo area (big selling point vs Accord), quiet enough on the highway, feels like a regular automatic, interior build sturdiness better than Camry. I ordered one, expecting it in December.
This latest Accord is a car that would perhaps benefit from a body kit that isn't fast and furious aggressive. Something akin to what Toyota did with the 2008 Corolla S was it. The Camry is definitely this generations winner. I hope the seats are comfortable for everyone though.
As someone who always had Honda vehicles and motorcycles, I would take the AWD Camry in a heart beat. Plus I think the styling is much nicer. IMHO, the previous Accord was the best looking model, inside and out.
Cheers from Cape Breton!
Is it really AWD though? It's just an electronic assist that barely gives any power to the back. Pretty much a gimmick imo.
Great comparison video! The new Camry’s exterior styling is growing on me but it’s the interior refresh that’s making me regret not waiting for this model year’s launch (currently driving the ‘24 XLE model).
I like the looks and handling of the Accord. I rather have fake shifts than no shifts. But I would like the rear axle of the awd in the Toyota.
Love these compros. Camry gets the blue ribbon!
AWD! Coming from Saskatchewan AWD is more of a must although not having heated rear seats is a real miss for me. Styling wise I agree with Zach, Honda is boring and the Camry a little over the top. Would probably still go with the Camry. Thanks for doing the comparison videos and I hope you do more in the future.
It's e-AWD. There's barely any power going to the rear wheels. It's basically a glorified FWD with some small electronic assist.
I love my Honda accord hybrid it is the best. No problem
Wow Love the content, Thank U Guys, I really don't know, cause both are good looking cars, Have a great day Guys.
Thanks for the nice review and comparison
#1 reason people want to buy hybrid is to save on fuel. Camry wins. Nuff said. Good comparo guys
If you compare real world driving, the difference will be neglectgible depending your mood or tempo on the day.
Don't forget the Accord EX-L gets about 5 mpg higher due to 17" wheels. I have a 23 EX-L and get over 50 mpg in the summer months.
Are you truly happy from the bottom of your heart with EX-L?
My kids love the heated seats at the back on the accord and that made it worth it. Also love the quietness and when I need a bit of noise the Bose was a better audio than that Camry JBL(yes I tried the audio on the Toyota lot).
camry for sure. this gen accord felt like a step back compared to the last one.
Zack is correct, bland vs trying too hard. I will say the Audi sportback vaguely comes to mind for the Accord. Camry has a trunk vibe going on.
So the Camry has “oatmeal” suspension and better fuel economy? SOLD! Been looking at the XLE as my retirement car.
Same here! I’m 64 years old and the XLe is my cup of tea with a premium package that includes rain sensing wipers and memory seats which is exclusive to XLE
Why don't you guys look into a Rav4 or CRV as a great vehicle for retirement. As you grow older, it is easier to get in and out of a vehicle that is a bit higher off the floor. The Camry or Accors are both low.
Informative like every time. Thanks for posting🏅
In the US, there are plenty of Accord hybrids on dealer lots and deals are available as well. Toyota dealers have precious little inventory and Camrys are selling at or above MSRP.
Couple months back I went to test drive the accord, the dealer had a ton of them on the lot. I then went to test drive the accord, they only had one se trim that was pending sale. After test driving both back to back, I felt the Camry had a more comfortable drive. Fast forward today, I’ve had my 2025 Camry xle for a month now.
I got $2600 under MSRP on my Camry SE. But I had two Toyota dealerships 30 miles from each that I played against each other for the deal. I also got them to throw in a few free packages as well.
FALSE. There are only 5 touring hybrids in all of Chicagoland dealers!
Great review
When evaluating vehicles can you mention if said vehicle has things like heads up,display available? As well, pls address the seating position in vehicles, esp cars. As a long time civic buyer i find increasingly with each redo i am sitting lower and lower to the point that now in my current civic i feel as if i am sitting on the tarmac. I recently purchased a sub compact cuv as i am tired of feeling as if i am looking out a tank turret while sitting on the ground. Sedans of yore had reasonable hip points but no longer...is it any wonder folks are buying cuvs and suvs?
The Camry would look so good with pop-up headlights!
🇺🇲🇨🇦 if you go into settings. You can change the background on the Camry to Black. The contrast may even be better. I drove both cars before purchasing.
I missed those comparison test videos. Accord has always been an unbeatable benchmark in this segment, its a sports car of a family sedan. But when it comes to hybrid, Toyota is second to none. Honda's system has never been lived up to its expectation. Especially for a company known for excellence in engineering. I would take a Camry XSE hybrid over an equivalent Accord Touring hybrid. That's coming from someone, who loves driving Accord (especially those with MT). But has a couple of Camry hybrid as a company car over the years. Latest is the 2015 Camry XLE.
I heard that the main difference in the two hybrid systems is that the Camry gets powered directly by the internal combustion engine when it is running. The Accord internal combustion engine just charges the battery and the battery powers the car. As a result the Accord is a little smoother in power application, but not as fast.
I like the Accord’s Audi like exterior and interior design better than the Camry.
I also like firmer steering and a sportier ride on the Accord.
AWD is not needed for me and I don’t drive that much so the gas mileage difference is a non issue. I haven’t had a car with a spare tire in many years . Most had run flats or a kit.
But for the most value an Altima SR with Premium package is a terrific choice for those not so concerned about gas mileage.
The exterior and interior looks of the Altima is fine for me and it drives very well. Plus for those that require AWD , Altima offers that option.
If money wasn’t an issue , Accord would be my first choice. But with inflation out of control , Altima strikes the right balance .
Hearing Altima reliability is issue, esp the transmission. Look at the poor resale value as evidence of this.
Can’t beat AWD and better fuel economy in the Camry. To top it off, the Camry has rear seat air vents on all trims. The Accord only has it on the Touring trim. I’m pretty sure the Accord is a great driving car and the google assistant (again only on the Touring trim) would be great to have, but fwd, no spare tire and having to pay extra so your kids in the back get some A/C (I’m in Florida) or heat for Canadian winters, it doesn’t even compete. The Hybrid system on the Camry is far superior as well, especially for City driving imo. I have a RAV4 hybrid and love it. Thanks for all the great content.
The most important thing is reliability and the Camry is more likely to be reliable than the Honda Accord.
I don't think the difference in reliability would be all that big. The Honda Accord ranks right up there. Also, you have to look at the way people drive - Back in the day Toyota Tercel ranked number 1 most reliable and the Honda Civic was number two - but kids bought Civics - they did donuts in parking lots. Grannies bought Tercels. People drove Civics far harder because the car was far more capable. Normally, I'm with you - reliability all day over buying American or the Germans but if a car is in the top 5 and the 5th most reliable car is better at everything else I'd sacrifice some reliability for performance, features, comfort etc.
The problem is that car reviewers (including Zach and Andrea) tend to value performance and driving dynamics more than reliability. After all, people who love cars tend to love them FOR their driving dynamics, power etc. The average buyer doesn't so I like that Zach and Andrea as well as Savagegeese reviewers try to look at it from the average person's perspective AND the enthusiast's perspective. Perhaps it would help the viewer to know "how much better" the Accord is at handling - is the Accord a 7.5/10 and the Toyota is 6.5/10 or is the Camry a 2/10? If it's 6.5/10 then given the panoramic sunroof and the red or grey interior options, spare tire, better mileage, and more and better exterior paint option then I'll take the Camry - if the Camry totally blows compared to the Accord then maybe that's a different conversation. If the Camry drives like an SUV - then for the same money may as well just buy an SUV since they'll get better resale value and offer more capability. An Enthusiast will notice the performance/handling driving them back to back - will the average person care?
I’ve seen Uber Accord Hybrids with over 350,000kms with no issues 80% driven hard in city traffic
@@richardausten5295 Not according to Consumer Reports.
@@jameswillett7186what does consumer reports say?
Awesome rundown, thank you.
Great comparison. I'm actually in the minority here, because I like the understated Accord look. However, I would choose the Camry for the complete package it offers.
Fantastic review/comparison…
Been looking forward to seeing this comparison video after seeing the promotion banner on Instagram 🎉
Honda has really gone conservative with their styling in all of their models! I hate to say it, but Toyota has caught up to and surpassed Honda in the styling department!
Thank you both for your review of this vehicles
Good job guys 🎉
AWD Camry for the win. Looks better than the boring accord.
Mart hands down one reason toyota has way more hybrid knowledge in turns reliability more tec
Oh, thanks for share!
Sure Camry is more reliable, Accord is the winner in this case in design.
That's what many people think. It's based on popular belief, not facts.
From KBB, and going back to 2018, the first year of the last generation, since it is more meaningful in older cars and they were both new releases. The Accord gets a 4.4 out of 5, and the Camry gets 4.1. For the 2020 SUVs, the CR-V gets 4.5, while the RAV4 gets 3.8.
JDPower had a system that only whole numbers in the range 1-5. That changed in 2020, to 0-100. Both sedans get an 82. For the SUVs, the CR-V gets 79, while the RAV4 gets 74.
Repairpal only rates the models, without years or powertrains. The Accord gets a 4 1/2 out of 5 while the Camry gets a 4. The SUVs get the same ratings.
I believe you may have misspoke when you said that the Accord gasoline engine is driving pretty much the whole time. The gasoline engine in the Accord is only driving a generator and can only be directly coupled to the drive wheel at higher speeds. Pretty much the whole time an electric drive motor is propelling the vehicle. Unlike the Toyota, it’s very often only the electric drive motor driving the wheels and if you hear the gas engine turning, it’s probably only working as an electric generator.
I've been a lifelong honda/acura fan but they've really lost their direction the last few years. First, the styling on the accord is just bad, thankfully the civic is much better. Secondly, they really screwed over themselves by not offering hybrids with acura. I would love to get a MDX hybrid but they don't offer it! Hondas/acuras are great handling cars but their fuel economy has always been subpar.
I know it's a dying segment, but I think if you want a mid-size sedan, the Camry is pretty tough to beat. This class of vehicle is meant to be a family sedan, get people from A to B, be reliable and affordable (to buy and own). While the Accord Hybrid may have a slight edge in "driving dynamics", I don't think that's likely high on buyer's checklists in this segment. I think the Camry beats it on every category people in this segment are looking for. That said, it's not that the Accord Hybrid is bad (it's still a great car), I just think Toyota really executed on the key factors for a car in this class. Several trim options, AWD, fuel efficient hybrid, reliable, high resale, low cost of ownership. They'll sell every single one they have on the lot.
Camry certainly does not beat it on storage and rear leg room. It also has a worse infotainment and sound insulation.
@@janoycresnova9156 You're getting pretty specific on those items so if you're looking for something the Accord wins you'll find it. While the cargo capacity is larger in the Accord, it's only a difference 1.6 cubic feet. Also, while the Accord does have 2.8 more inches of rear legroom, the Camry has 1.3 inches more legroom up front. As I said before, the Accord is a great option so it's not like anyone is saying the Accord isn't any good. But in terms of the things most people look for when buying, the Camry is very compelling. More trims (in Canada) so might be easier to find something in your budget. Better fuel economy and AWD option. I doubt most people would use the infotainment as a deciding factor between the two (it's not like the Toyota one is terrible anyway).
Seats appear short on thigh support, that was a big drawback on a Prius years ago. The power adjustable thigh support is one of the nicest features of some Volvo seats.
I want a hatchback or wagon style of either.
Go with the civic then, it’s the better deal over the accord
The accord is just too good for me ❤
It will be interesting to see which of these cars Consumer Reports chooses for best pick in a sedan. I bought the 2025 Camry LE (the only LE that our local dealer had at the time and in fact has had on the lot since I purchased my car.) While the Camry LE is not "sporty" it handles well and has ample power. The ride is much more tied down than my wife's 2013 Camry LE i.e. floaty and noticeable body roll when cornering. The fact remains that the SE and XSE and by far the best sellers.
They are frauds , don’t trust them
Good review and comparison 👍👍
I would go for the Camera. Love the interior and a panoramic roof. Fuel economy is the plus! Too bad it's not priced a bit lower, especially seeing they don't sell as well as SUV
I just wish the Camry XSE wasn’t so damn expensive in Canada! With taxes and delivery fees, yikes! I’ve even been looking for a used XSE, even a gas model, they’re hard to come by!
As a owner of 2022 Toyota RAV4 prime, I would like to try Honda hybrid system for my next car. I feel Toyota sometime cut corner on their products. RAV4 prime has TPMS in the States but Toyota removed the TPMS in Canada. I was driving on highway with flat tires for a while and I didn't aware of that until I got off the highway. I was lucky that we didn't get into any accidents. $60k prime doesn't have TPMS? Come on...
Just another thing to break, buy an ANALOGUE guage and a tire inflator and check your tires yourself at home once a month. If your tire was that flat on the highway you would notice it in the steering and you would've noticed it in a pretrip visual inspection.
Great Review!!! Thank u.
Can you please review the new Civic Hybrid?
If I could I’d put the Accord interior in the Camry and buy the Camry. Also, I priced two hybrid models in the US and the Camry comes out cheaper by over $2k, but out the door they’re both gonna cost over $40k and that’s a real bummer. Dealers really need to stop gouging us with zero-value fees!!
Right on!
I love the Camry interior. The red one is just chefs kiss.
I consider Honda very dull and gloomy
The accord just has plain black boring interior, it is nice that the Camry adds a splash of colour, and that black is really hot on a summer day
The Camry Hybrid has more power 225-232hp vs. Honda' Accord Hybrids 204hp for roughly the same fuel economy. If you live in an area in Canada that requires AWD the camry offers it. The Camry also comes with a spare tire (very important!). Has anyone ever been happy to use a tire repair kit on the side of the highway? Toyota's hybrid system and E-CVT are more refined and they can run both the gas and hybrid motor at the same time. I think the camry's exterior definately looks better. What's most important is TEST DRIVE both cars in the trim you'd like to purchase and get what you like!
Honda repair kit ??? = deal breaker !!! This is coming from a Honda owner with a sidewall gash from a pothole, waited 4 hours for a tow at 3:00 AM!! Please I need a spare tire, even a temporary spare will do, how can you do a road trip without a spare tire ??? Also living in the Midwest AWD is definitely a plus
Well done. Great review!
I understand the Accord does not come with a spare tire. But what I want to know is: Does it at least have the indentation space under the trunk for a "donut" tire, if one wishes to purchase a third-party spare?
Other cars I've seen with the flat fix repair kit still have the space for the spare, but only the kit sits there
New Camry Hybrid FWD LE Ocean Gem exterior with Black interior (snow tires) Boston MA. 😊
Still can't make up my mind. I like the look of both, although the colors offered on the Toyotas are far superior. I miss the AWD option and spare tire on the Accord, although I heard you CAN ask a dealership to install one. Remember that the gas model Accord has a spire tire, which has been eliminated in the hybrid models due to the space taken up by the batteries. I imagine you'd lose some precious cargo capacity in that case. The Accord has a higher quality interior and a significant advantage in passenger space, although I love the overall design in both. The Toyota also has a better cooling setup for its batteries. The Toyota's direct injection system is also better at riding itself of carbon than the Honda. I suppose on paper the Toyota has the overall best mix of qualities, I guess it will boil down to the test drive - which one is more comfortable and which one has the better interior environment and stereo?
The Only thing the honda accord needs to do now is once add a Panoramic roof, Give the Accord touring and EXL more power like 230-250 hp then they would have a clear choice to choose from. Both are similar I do think and well sell to it’s loyalist supporters for sure. I like the styling of the Accord a bit better but still give the Camry much respect .
If you want the lowest-priced Camry Hybrid, and you live in Canada, the only choice you have is 1980's-style VINYL seats. No cloth option available, and only leather if you spend a few thousand more for the higher trims.
Budget friendly cars can't complain
Both vehicles are excellent. Both are quite expensive. The Camry LE offers the best value and price. Anything else is a toss-up. The Accord is larger. Drives better. More classy. The Camry offers AWD. It is faster. More appealing to buys as a value option than the Accord. You xamnot go wrong with any of them. Buy what you want. They both are very reliable vehicles that would last you forever.
I got a lexus IS300 260hp after a hybrid car, but regret the gas consumption it's 9-10L/100km versus 5L/100km in a hybrid car.
I’m a Honda man however I need XM radio because where I live. So I have to transfer to Toyota Camry this time
The Accord doesn’t come with a spare tire, yet the Camry does. That makes it an easy decision.
In Alberta, Toyota dealers seem to be sticking to msrp although there is a wait time on most vehicles, but Honda is asking for more than msrp. They are asking for almost $3000.00 more for a CIVIC Touring Hybrid by forcing add on items.
In Calgary Toyota Dealers will sell for MSRP + $999 Doc fee ( least amount of dealer greed for a BS charge) but I've been told delivery could be up to a year.I have an SE AWD on order.
If I want one now they are available for the bargain price of $8000 to $10000 over MSRP from unscrupulous Dealers .
For me I know the Camry is a transportation device & the Honda is a better drive but it doesn't have AWD, NO spare tire, pricing is too high & boring styling made me wait for a Camry.I suspect long term reliability of the Camry will probably be true as not many Honda's are used by Uber & taxi drivers. Hope the 2025 Camry stays as quiet & rattle free in the long run. Almost every Camry uber or taxi I have been in is a rattle trap but they do go on forever.
I wish Honda would include more color in their interior
Exterior styling Camry, interior Accord.
No spare tire on the Honda same problem on the CRV. This is a none starter for me. There is no place to put a spare on either vehicle's.
Great video
I've test driven the Touring Accord. It handled very nicely, but my issues were the vented seats didn't work very well! They dropped SirusXM radio & NO HomeLink mirror options. That on top of the lower MPG, ends up making it a hard pass. Now it's down to the Camry & Sonata.
based on looks camry hands down
It's nice to see a comparison video of two good old family sedans. Don't mean to sound like an old codger but, anyone else getting tired of seeing CUVs & SUVs that are soulless and all look alike?
You're gonna see even more of that. They are boring, but mall crawlers are the future.
They're cars, they don't have souls. Except there is the Kia Soul......nevermind!
Amen
If i were to buy an accord. It would be 2017. Its the last year of good looking accord.
Toyota all the way... Better reliability long-term, flagship car for them that is tested, tried and true. Better fuel economy.
I prefer the Camry red interior over many interiors in cars.. For me the Acoord is dull and gloomy inside.
However, I feel given the preference of customers to shop for SUV, these sedans are priced too high. Good sized sedans at a lower price than an SUV would sell much better. However, when they touch 48k in Canada, there’s too many SUV options in that price range.
The better bank for buck might actually be the new Civic.. it’s not that small compared to a Camry.
I agree - looking at the Camry myself but for around the same price I could get the absolute top-of-the-line Subaru Outback Premier XT. I know it's not the same thing - it obviously doesn't get the gas mileage nor will it have the driving dynamics of either Sedan here but it is way more capable off-road and in the Canadian snow with far better AWD. Has more space etc and probably has higher resale value (just because they're popular in Canada). And the Subaru will be coming next year with Toyota's Hybrid set-up so perhaps the fuel mileage will get considerably closer to the Sedans.
Great comparison. I currently love my Crosstour. If I had to get a car right now, it'd be the Crown Signia. That said, I like the driving dynamics of the Hondas better along with the infotainment system (I agree that the Toyota GUI is too bright and washed out), so I'm reeeeeally hoping they come out with a new Crosstour wagon (with a HUD) to compete with the Signia. Any rumors of an accord wagon in some form or at the very least an AWD accord?
They said the Accord has a more quiet cabin even though most reviewers on youtube which have tested both cars have said the Camry is quieter. I wonder what they are basing this claim on.
Two deal breakers for me on the Accord…first no spare tire. Next no satellite radio (“our customers prefer streaming” a rep told me 😂). No AWD? Low fuel economy? Higher pricing? Camry is the no brainer winner in my opinion!
You can put a spare in the well if you want. Honda leaves it out for safety; Toyota doesn't care.
Yes, you can stream. In fact, you probably do when not in the car. AND, you get better service than from Sirius.
Have you looked at reviews of just how ineffective that AWD is? Especially in a sedan?
3 mpg is not as big a difference near 50 mpg as it is at 25 mpg. But if it matters, _trade_ _down_ to the 17" wheels, and the Accord gets better mpg than the Camrys on 18" wheels. In a larger car. Or better, get the same-size-as-Camry Civic Hybrid.
I'm guessing you are looking at MSRP for "comparable" trims. Guess what - for the Camry, you have to buy expensive packages to get the features that make them "comparable," and then the Camry has "higher pricing."
Yes, Toyota does try to attract the people who don't use their brain.
They leave out the spare tire for safety? Who are you trying to fool…safety is having a spare tire. Cheapness is leaving it out. Streaming is better than Sstellite radio? You must be the lucky 1 in a million that never drives in areas with poor cell phone coverage. You must be a Honda PR person trying to spin crap into gold!
@@guybyny In a collision, it slams into the hybrid battery. That's why the non-hybrids have a spare, but the hybrids don't. If it was cost or weight, neither would have a spare.
Like I said, you can use your brain.
In the U.S. the Accord not only doesn't include a heated steering wheel as standard, it's not available at all, even in the top of the line Touring trim.
Also, one thing you didn't mention was how much quicker everywhere the Camry is over the underpowered Accord. Doesn't matter whether it's leaving the line, merging onto the highway, roll ons, exiting a corner, or top end, the Camry simply runs away from the pokey Accord, and does so while always achieving superior fuel mileage.
Lastly, the Accord employs direct injection only, so its intake valves will suffer from carbon buildup that will eventually necessitate digging into the engine to clean those gunked-up valves. The Camry uses Toyota's D-4S port and direct injection system, eliminating carbon buildup on the intake valves. In terms of engine longevity and overall cost of maintenance, it's a much better system.
How is the Camry quicker with a torque of 168ft/lbs vs 224ft/lbs of the accord?
@@memcrew1 Because that torque number for the Camry is incomplete. It doesn’t include and combine the output of the gas motor and the electric motors. Toyota doesn’t list the total torque output for their pure hybrids.
Watch any video that pits the Camry and Accord head to head, such as the Throttle House comparison. It doesn’t matter what type of race it is, the Camry easily walks away from the Accord. It’s not even close.
@@vlj1133 really?!? Can you give the links or title of the videos?
Like others, these are 2 vehicles on my short list. Overall the Camry would seem to win on points but if the Accord came in with other interior colours other than black then my decision becomes more difficult. Adding a spare tire would also increase the value proposition.
The Accord seems to have a better-quality interior. I bought a Camry. With the Camry, I got better mileage, real spare tire, Toyota quality reputation. Also, the Camry is a few inches shorter than the Accord making the Camry is a bit easier to park. So far, I like my new Camry.
As usual, the Honda has better driving dynamics. However, they have to work on the looks