I've purchased the new 2025 civic sport hybrid hatchback (non touring). At 70mph I can average about 47mpg, but at 80mph I might only average 40mpg. Huge difference. If I go a bit slower on my all-highway commute I easily hit 47mpg.
Did you use economy mode? I drove the same speed in economy mode and got around 45mpg. Windy central Illinois roads may have caused the difference. I also found that going 75 or higher really dropped the mpg and that optimal mpg is around 65mph.
@@alexgataric Yeah I have an accord touring, they can definitely be pretty unforgiving compared to my old toyota hybrid but also pretty generous if you drive it just right. I feel like mine wants to jump in to gas engine power way too easily. If I could only access the tuning on that 😁😁
@alexgataric It does?! 😮 I forgot to mention mine is a 10th gen though. A 2019. Maybe not me. It has eco mode but never seems to affect anything that I can tell
@@jackfaarmer I’ve only had my 25 Accord hybrid since Saturday. In local and light state road driving up to maybe 65mph I’ve averaged like 45mpg. I’ve been in it idling while I’ve fiddled with settings and whatnot so I’m sure that’s affected mpg. In a few weeks we have to make a 3 hour interstate drive and back for a family thing so I’m curious to see what kind of mpg I get on that trip.
What everyone's missing on the underwhelming highway mpg, this is generally not a long range cruiser. Where it really shines is in stop and go around town driving, where I've been averaging between 51 and 52 mpg, and driving briskly!
He's also using cruise control. I've found with the Honda Accord Civic that I get less mpg with Cruise than I do with a light touch on the pedal. Plus, he does not say if he's in Eco mode. If he's in normal or sport mode, he's going to get less mpg.
@@johnf7683 I find the ACC works well on long, open, level stretches but in traffic and in hills or mountains it seems to react abruptly enough that it is detrimental to fuel economy. As an example when it approaches a car going much slower it will brake when the sensor acquires the target whereas a driver would have slowed and kept the distance much smoother and earlier without using the brakes at all.
I hate lumbar support. At least the one on the Honda Civic... it pushes my spine even in the minimum position. I got used to it, but the Ford Focus 2013 seats are much more comfortable. It is one of the minuses observed in Honda Civic gen 11
I've had the same car for almost two months. Several road trips in all conditions (summer) meaning highways, mountains, desert and dense urban traffic. I drive just like every other car on the road and mostly in NORMAL mode with occasional SPORT mode use. I have not used ECON mode due to it's effect on A/C which has always been on and I only use cruise control on long open stretches of level highway. With just under 5k miles the Trip B computer, which has never been reset, reads 48.9 mpg. The Trip A computer, which auto resets at each fill up, is consistently right around 50 mpg give or take. The last road trip was from San Francisco to Las Vegas and back over the 9800 foot Tioga Pass in Yosemite and across the -282 foot Death Valley. I think your constant use of ACC is affecting your results.
@pi.actual Can you elaborate, please, on the performance of the car under sustained hill-climbing conditions such as your Tioga Pass trip? It seems that the Achilles heel of this hybrid system is a prolonged load condition (up hill) at highway speeds. The modest-sized 2L NA engine is directly connected to the wheels under this load condition. The battery plays no role. From other owners’ reviews, the car can struggle to maintain highway speeds, much less to accelerate. A drop in efficiency is expected. What would concern me is a sense that the drivetrain power is marginal. Would be interested to know your experience.
@@marcinmerrimack1726 I can't speak for other people's experiences but for me I have not noticed it "struggling" at any point and passing at highway speeds is a breeze. I also crossed Death Valley which involved three very steep passes and none were a problem. Of course I was solo so maybe with four passengers and luggage? The direct coupling of the engine will only occur between 65 - 80 mph. Above 80 it is 100% hybrid mode. The power flow synoptic shows a little gear symbol when it is coupled so you can directly observe this. Other than that you wouldn't know if the clutch was engaged or not.
@@pi.actual I appreciate the reply. When I test drive the car here, I really don’t have the opportunity to assess the performance under prolonged uphill conditions. Your experience is encouraging. But I don’t yet understand the Honda hybrid system behavior. Direct coupling of the engine means that there’s no electric motor contribution, I believe. So I’d be relying solely on a 2L NA engine for propulsion in that speed range. In contrast, my older Accord has a 2.4L NA 5MT drivetrain. The Accord is roughly the same weight as the Hybrid Civic and so I should expect less “grunt” from the Civic in that speed range, I assume. And ‘hybrid’ operation resuming in the Civic at speeds above 80mph is unclear to me. Does that mean that the ‘uncoupled’ engine is better utilized then to just spin the generator motor sufficiently to power the drive motor to achieve speeds above 80mph? And whatever role the small 1kW battery has in this condition, if any, has to be short lived. It’s a mystery…
For the Canadian Viewers- I have a 2020 Civic LX with the 2.0L gas engine with the CVT transmission and average trip on the odometer was 5.5L/100km (42 mpg) and the total trip was 666.9 km (414 miles) with 69km (42 miles) remaining till empty. I did it on a full tank of gas. There were 2 people in the car (driver and passenger) with light luggage driving on average the speed limit and on eco mode.
After owning this exact same car for a month (same color too!)... it seems finely tuned to perform best cruising around suburbia. I haven't tested it long range or consistent high speeds. I have taken several 15-20 mile trips of country-type miles and i've hit 58-60 MPG. I think if you put in in ECON mode you'd see closer to 45-46 MPG for a long trip like this video. I Also feel the adaptive cruise control might hurt your MPG but that seems to go against conventional wisdom
I have a Honda Accord Hybrid, and I do get less mpg with cruise on. You have to train your foot for light pressure to get good MPG, but I average around 54 mpg combined not using cruise.
I own a 2024 Civic EX-L hatchback (the 1.5 turbo). In May I took it on a 1300 mile road trip and averaged 42.5. In August I did a 300 mile day trip and got 47.7. I don’t think the hybrid is worth the money if you’re primarily on the open road. If you’re on city streets most of the time then the hybrid is worth it. My EX-L will typically get upper 20s mpg in city driving, pretty underwhelming. Honda has a winner here and will sell a bunch of these, even when most people want an SUV.
On a trip to Texas from NY and back, I averaged 44 mpg in a 2020 Civic Si doing 75-80mph the whole way, with my best calculated trip tank at 47mpg (not the tripmeter...real calculation.)
I'm interested to hear how the civic hybrid does too. I have a 2025 camry xse and it was quite noisy on at freeway speeds especially 75 mph and above. I've changed to quieter tires added sound deadening materials in all four wheel wells, that cut down the road noise quite a lot.I was getting wind noise coming from the a pillar area but after getting some low profile window visors, that cut down almost all the wind noise and it has been very quiet even at 80 mph. I think the civic may probably perform the same.
@@billc8205 good to know Bill, thanks! I was considering a Camry as a replacement for my 16 year old BMW when it bites the dust. (Running great but you just never know with a car that old). Want something quiet and comfortable. May need to look at a used Lexus or maybe another BMw (B58 engine I hear is reliable as long as you keep up with maintenance).
@@BrianNC81 The B58 is very reliable as it was developed to Toyota standards so toyota could use it in the Supra, I love my M340i. And it's very refined at speeds, very little noise at 75-80 MPH. If i were you, i'd consider a lightly used M340i, they're great values. Make sure to get with driver's assistance package, BMW's system works great on the freeway. And hands free traffic jam assist below 40 MPH is a life saver for my commute.
You think it’s Great that it only to 8.8 gallons to fill when the tank holds 10 gallons? Why is that great? I get that it’s good mileage , but did you expect the fill to be say 11 or 12 gallons?
Thank you for your great review. The actual MPG calculation using the total milea ÷ gallons = 41.9 that is the true number vs the 43.9 on the car's computer. The MPG is kind of disappointing considering average speed was only 61 mph. For comparison, our new Prius LE gets around 55 mpg per tank comprised of mostly short commutes in Los Angeles urban areas. We would've probably get close to 60 if driven the same route in this video.
I did calculate fuel economy using miles driven and gasoline pumped as well: ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=HrfqzbQ5NHKV1FG1&t=1112 As for the 61 mph number, that's average speed, including all city driving, segments of heavy traffic on the interstate, etc. I traveled at 78 mph, according to the Honda Civic's speedometer.
@viewsonvehicles will you recommend this for a new driver is it easy to drive safe nothing to fast or what would you recommend but they a travel nurse?
Thank you for the great review. Surprising that the road noise is so noticeable considering the noise reducing technology in the wheels. I’ve also seen so many reviews that claim how quiet the new civic is. Reconsidering my purchase decision now.
It could be the tires used. OEM's aren't going to use the quietest ones, they are going to use what's cheapest on scale. If you plan on keeping the car long term, buy a new, quieter set and sell the OEM ones to recoup of the cost.
@@CODE-BROWNHonda supposedly picked these tires because they are quieter for this vehicle. If you want a quieter car you’ll need to step up to the accord or Camry which have acoustic glass and better overall sound deadening because they’re a step up from the civic. I wouldn’t think that another set of tires on the civic would drastically change the road noise and honestly it seems silly to go drop $700+ on a new set of tires for a car you just spent a lot of money on lol.
@@petethehawk5186 Honda doesn't give a shit about acoustic noise with tires. They went with the ones that are going to give the most MPG's. Yes, people regularly change out OEM trash tires for better brands all the time. You can sell of the OEM ones and make most of your money back.
If you don't drive in the upper Midwest, you will find the ride a lot quieter. Winters and salt leave pretty tough surfaces and concrete is notably bad,
I rented a Toyota Crown XLE AWD for one week and easily (no hypermilling) achieved on average 47 miles per hour (in real world driving). The car is very quiet and luxurious and felt more like a Lexus than Toyota. Toyota Safety Sense was excellent and the seats were very comfortable for four adults and luggage. Civic - $35K vs Crown -$43K I will take the Crown when you factor in the AWD, comfort, resale, and known reliability..
In my experience, Eco mode mainly changes the throttle map, which makes it easier to accelerate slower and more smoothly, but doesn't do much for steady state highway driving. That said, all those little moments of speeding up and slowing down in heavier highway traffic, etc. probably would've improved fuel economy a bit. Fair point.
@@viewsonvehicles Good point on the throttle map. Was not a fair assumption by me just bc you see the little green leaf means you instantly get better MPG. You did a good job controlled driving scenario and calculating the accuracy. Nice work!
previously owned a 17 civic ex-t, with the 1.5L turbo with manual transmission. Drove it to Florida and was able to achieve 50 miles to the gallon. Only reason I go rid of that car was because it was not comfortable inside for road trip. If this hybrid car is more comfortable than the 17 civic, I may consider to get it.
The only deal breaker for me is no spare tire? I know there has to a place for the battery but I need a spare, ask me how I know. Had a SI and hit a small pothole that tore my sidewall, the fix a flat kit was useless, waited 3 hours at midnight for a tow, never again would I purchase a vehicle without a spare tire. I know I can put one in the trunk but there goes my storage.
SI probably had low profile tires which are subject to tire and wheel damage. And increased road noise. Unless you’re on a race track, higher profile tires make much more sense.
Agree. I believe the sedan version has room for a spare but you will need to pony up an extra $400. Any profile tire can get a flat at any time. It’s easy to change a tire and be on your way.
In my experience, eco mode just change much in steady state highway driving. Though, it may have improved the numbers in heavier traffic with more accel and decel.
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Nice video! Question- I've heard different takes on the interior noise of the Civic Hybrid and I was wondering since the radio seemed to be off on your trip- does the cars Active Noise Cancelling work if the audio system is off? Also it would be great if you could get a sound measuring device to record provide while on your tests. Real world results are great and you could say the dB was X at 70MP on asphalt vs concrete.
Thank you for the compliment and the suggestion. I used to regularly use sound level testing, but there is a very wide variety of amount of noise verses unpleasant noises you hear, which is why I stick to the sound quality my own ear picks up. But, based on your comment, I will reconsider. And, yes, I believe ANC works all the time.
Did you actually measure the mpg while traveling or did you rely on the trip computer? It looks like you're just using the trip computer, which I'm not sure is accurate. Does anyone in the comments have information to add??? I travel 1.5 hours each way to work and would like to gather accurate hwy mpg if possible. I'm averaging 31mpg now in a Buick Envision that is very comfortable, and wondering if it might be worth the switch. Thanks!
Yes I did, as shown in the moment of the video above. This will beat your 31 mpg, I'm confident in that, but exact mileage depends on many different factors, not lease of which is driving style. Hope that helps.
Yeah. Thanks for the honest MPG review. That is what I am finding myself as a daily driver. I dunno what other people are talking about getting way over 55MPG. They all must be lying. The ride is an issue for me also. It's those thin profile tires. They are lame. As a "Touring" vehicle, Honda needs to separate it from the "Sport" by putting more comfortable tires on the Touring model, let the Sport guys have the thin ones
The car is capable of getting over its 50 MPG rating. I have the Sport Touring Hybrid and on some trips i’ve gotten up to 70 MPG in mixed city/highway driving. Overall I’m averaging around 50 MPG since I’ve owned the vehicle. My MPG has dropped a little bit recently as it is getting colder out and the system keeps the engine on to heat the cabin.
@@TheOtherKine What contradiction? Stated the car is capable of getting 50 MPG. States they got up to 70 MPG on some trips in mixed driving. States total average since owning is about 50 MPG. There is no contradiction. Go look at TFL video "2025 Honda Civic Hybrid Road Trip Review: Do Crepes Really Taste Better at a Mile Above Sea Level?" where they did a round trip of 85 miles and averaged 70 MPG. In two comments you say other people who get different results are liar or accuse them of contradicting themselves. Bro, maybe be a better person and just realize DRIVING style affects mileage way more than anything else.
@@Komainu959 I OWN the car. Ive tried to hypermile it for 3 months now. The people are LYING. It is not possible to do any of those things with regular driving. I've tried.
My 2023 CRV hybrid gets 40.1 mpg consistently. Speed doesn't seem to matter for mpg readings. I am more than happy with 40 mpg. Most surprising is the "get up and go" in traffic. This is a solid vehicle.
What I want to know about Honda's hybrid system: what happens after 10 to 15 years of ownership and the hybrid battery completely "fails" (unable to hold any charge, or substantial amount of charge) will the car still operate in a kind of 'limp' mode??? (or will it not run at all??)
In my experience with the car, steady state highway driving doesn't benefit much from the Econ mode. It would help a bit when speeding up and slowing down in traffic. That may make it marginally better overall as a result. I did talk about all the drive modes a bit in my main review, in case that helps: ruclips.net/video/VXv3rOe_928/видео.htmlsi=7tONP2aOwdiymNKa
Thanks for the great review. I like the new civic however with is missing the lumber support and also doesn't look like it has satellite radio anymore so those are a must for me so I'm out.
Receiving siriusxm from the satellite is overrated. The frequency compression is crazy bad. Stream siriusxm from your phone in carplay or android auto.
I get 47 mpg in a much heavier 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, especially on long highway drives. His issue is based on what speed that he said he was traveling at, he is going tooooo fast to get good mileage. Between 60 and 70 is the optimum speed, for reasonable air resistance.
Hybrids do better in city driving because they really don't use the battery too much on highway. That's why it's not going to impress on the highway numbers but he's going well above the EPA/Honda testing speeds for MPG.
I have a 2021 Toyota Highlander hybrid which is rated at 35mpg. I use it for soccer mom activities. I have 3 kids, also added a tow hitch, side steps, and roof rails and still get 34-35mpg. If I just cruise on the freeway at 55-60mph, I can get 40mpg. So considering you’re driving by yourself, the Civic hybrid’s real world mpg is underwhelming.
It's a completely different Hybrid system. It's not a planetary-gear system like the Toyota is, and Toyota has the big Lithium Battery pack under the back seat that this Civic does not have. The Civic works on a smaller one and charges more through regenerative, whereas the Toyota can run on the battery pack for a while.
Can you comment on how long it takes to get your $ back vs non-hybrid civic using todays gas price and avg. miles driven say 15k per year. I think the answer might be close to forever.😊
If you go by Government numbers it costs: price of gas at the moment in my area - $3.50. Non hybrid Civic. 36 combined MPG. Hybrid Civic combined 49 MPG. 15,000 miles/36 mpg *$3.50 = $1458.33 a year for Non Hybrid Civic 15,000 miles/49 mph*$3.50 = $1071.43 a year for Hybrid Civic. You save $386.90 a year. If you drive more than that and more in the city, it's better. More highway and/or fewer miles, it's worse.
You’re welcome to get the non-hybrid. The reason for getting the hybrid isn’t only to get better fuel economy. It’s also for the increased power and features..
At higher speeds, you lose gas mileage. This car should get close to 500 miles. If you're getting under 400 miles, you're not driving it efficiently. Weather and the going up on the road, including cold weather and wind.
Fuel mileage numbers for hybrids aren't impressive compared to regular ICE vehicles on a highway. In the cities though hybrids are superb in terms of fuel numbers.
You are not getting the expected mpg, because you are driving the car too damn fast. Sixty-five to Seventy miles per miles is optimal for most hybrids. When you drive faster than that, the ICE engine kicks in more thus reducing MPG. My 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, consistently gets 49 to 51mpg, if I keep it at about 65 mpg, or 45-47 if I keep it at 70mpg, for drive that exceed say 250 miles. Shucks I can get my non-hybrid Mazda 6 with a manual tranny to achieve highway mileage of 38mpg, if I keep it at 65mph on the highway for long drives, and at least 34mpg, if I push it to 70. Its simple physics, the higher the speed, the more air resistance. Also how new the car is makes a difference. I rented a brand new (with 10 miles on the clock) 2024 Honda Accord Hybrid Sport. Was shocked that the mileage achieved was only 39 to 41mpg. A month later I rented one with 10,000 miles on the clock. That vehicle had no problem averaging about 47mpg.
The purpose of the test was not to get the expected MPG, but to drive at the speed of traffic and see what the MPG Civic achieved as a result. I pointed out in the video that the Civic I tested started with just above 2000 miles on the odometer and ended it with a bit over 2800 miles.
He has been driving in NORMAL and should have switched to ECON mode once he got on the interstate. That would have increased his mpg into the high 40's or low 50's.
Actually in 1995 a civic was less than 15k which is almost 31k adjusted for inflation so your point doesn't stand and they're most certainly quieter than they were in 1995 as well.
Bruh. You're going over 70mph most of the way, and not in "eco mode" mostly. Obviously, the mpg will not be showing what epa stated... try going 65-70 mph on highways, and you should see the average go way higher than what you're getting. Such speeds do affect the mpg a lot...
The point of this test was to drive at average highway speeds (I passed some and was passed by some) and see what fuel economy I got. The highway EPA figure was simply a metric to compare against. I also tested the comfort and noise level of the car on a longer trip.
I’m a little disappointed. Sold my '19' Civic SI 2 door that would honestly get 44 MPG’s highway on cruise control (65 mph, no hills). I do understand that Hybrids are less efficient on the highway, but your real world driving made me reconsider buying this car along with the lack of Sirius radio. My phone data is limited and on a long drive like yours it would eat it up. 🫤
You call that a “long drive”? I just went from Saint George Utah to Anchorage and from there to Boston and back to Utah in my 24 CRV Hybrid and loved every mile. Super comfortable but gas mileage was nothing special for obvious reasons. Great car!!
A 411 mile range? How small is that fuel tank? 10 gallons? By the way, above about 47mph the engine isn’t just “contributing”, it’s doing all the driving. This has a single overdrive gear that the clutch connects to the front axle. The reason you’re getting just 40mpg is your high speed. 78mph is not only illegal, but is also a very high speed for any car. It isn’t fuel efficient. Remember, that gear is made for 47mph as well, so doing 78mph you’re revving it much higher. You can see that the tach is around 2700-2800rpms. Drop to 70 and you’ll see a huge difference. At 65mph you’ll be doing close to 50mpg.
As I show in the video, the fuel tank is 10.6 gallons. At 78 mph, I kept up with traffic. I passed some folks and many passed me. ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=S14W33rqbLpH-rHo&t=643
There is no tachometer and regardless of speed if the EV light is on the engine is not running. You have a lot of misinformation on how this thing works.
@@pi.actual There Is a tachometer readout which you can CLEARLY see! Also, the Civic is NEVER in EV mode at highway speeds! YOU are the misinformed one here!
@@afcgeo882 That is a power % meter, not a tachometer. I have owned this car for two months and put almost 5k miles on it. Goes into EV mode at highway speeds up to 80 mph all the time. You are making statements that are completely false.
350 miles / 8.3 gallons is 42 mpg, not 44. That's not great at 62 mph. At that speed my 2023 Camy Hybrid XSE gets over 45mpg, and it's a much bigger, quieter car.
I calculated MPG using gas station receipts and miles driven at the end of the video. 62 mph is average speed over the course of the trip, including all idling, accelerating, and braking, not set speed on the interstate. Cruise control was set to 78 mph.
That's pretty disappointing highway gas mileage. A 10-year-old Mazda 3 would get pretty much the same and it's way less complicated and way less costly.
You must have miscalculated respectfully. This gets significantly better mileage and it is not even close. Mazda is rated about 10mpg less or more, highway.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Maybe on a level road and doing 55mph. The Civic hybrid would do that and get considerably better. I looked up that car and gets 37 Highway and 28 city epa ratings. No way is it getting anywhere near a CVT hybrid
I was not performing an EPA test. I tested fuel economy on a road trip while traveling speeds that kept up with traffic. I then compared my numbers to the EPA figures.
@@viewsonvehicles what's done is done but an emphasis on perhaps "real world" driving speeds. For future videos. I think it is VERY useful you do this bc the vast majority of people won't drive at speeds or strategies that try to get to the epa rating. Plus then you could turn on the AC! Now that is a test I've not seen any content creator do.
It seems as if you skipped through and selectively listened to about 15 seconds of the roughly 20 minute video. But if it’s not a good fit for you as a car, I hope you find something you like! In fact, here’s another one to consider: ruclips.net/video/WhNwohnPvQg/видео.htmlsi=D2RX8yXTUZWYBfJH
I've purchased the new 2025 civic sport hybrid hatchback (non touring). At 70mph I can average about 47mpg, but at 80mph I might only average 40mpg. Huge difference. If I go a bit slower on my all-highway commute I easily hit 47mpg.
Did you use economy mode? I drove the same speed in economy mode and got around 45mpg. Windy central Illinois roads may have caused the difference. I also found that going 75 or higher really dropped the mpg and that optimal mpg is around 65mph.
@@alexgataric Yeah I have an accord touring, they can definitely be pretty unforgiving compared to my old toyota hybrid but also pretty generous if you drive it just right. I feel like mine wants to jump in to gas engine power way too easily. If I could only access the tuning on that 😁😁
@@VibnWavez The touring trim has customizable power tuning.
@alexgataric It does?! 😮 I forgot to mention mine is a 10th gen though. A 2019. Maybe not me. It has eco mode but never seems to affect anything that I can tell
@@jackfaarmer I’ve only had my 25 Accord hybrid since Saturday. In local and light state road driving up to maybe 65mph I’ve averaged like 45mpg. I’ve been in it idling while I’ve fiddled with settings and whatnot so I’m sure that’s affected mpg. In a few weeks we have to make a 3 hour interstate drive and back for a family thing so I’m curious to see what kind of mpg I get on that trip.
What everyone's missing on the underwhelming highway mpg, this is generally not a long range cruiser. Where it really shines is in stop and go around town driving, where I've been averaging between 51 and 52 mpg, and driving briskly!
Camry le has even better city mpg and cost less
He's driving the "Touring" model dude
He's also using cruise control. I've found with the Honda Accord Civic that I get less mpg with Cruise than I do with a light touch on the pedal. Plus, he does not say if he's in Eco mode. If he's in normal or sport mode, he's going to get less mpg.
@@johnf7683 I find the ACC works well on long, open, level stretches but in traffic and in hills or mountains it seems to react abruptly enough that it is detrimental to fuel economy. As an example when it approaches a car going much slower it will brake when the sensor acquires the target whereas a driver would have slowed and kept the distance much smoother and earlier without using the brakes at all.
@@mrnarasonyeah but I don’t want a base-a$$ Camry LE
I just picked up my hybrid touring last week. I’m just over 350 miles total and have averaged just under 55mpg with mostly highway mixed driving
If you are going 75-80mph then 44ish mpg is great. Try going 65-70 and you'll probably meet/beat the EPA.
I wonder what 55mph would do...😊
Lumbar support should be standard in every car and every trim.
I hate lumbar support. At least the one on the Honda Civic... it pushes my spine even in the minimum position. I got used to it, but the Ford Focus 2013 seats are much more comfortable. It is one of the minuses observed in Honda Civic gen 11
Absolutely
Says who? Market dictates this not just anyone…😂
@@ztekz - they make you pay for the higher trim package just to get lumbar support - because they know you want it. Don't be a fool.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnowyou can’t actually get it at all on the civic so they’re not just making you pay for it
I've had the same car for almost two months. Several road trips in all conditions (summer) meaning highways, mountains, desert and dense urban traffic. I drive just like every other car on the road and mostly in NORMAL mode with occasional SPORT mode use. I have not used ECON mode due to it's effect on A/C which has always been on and I only use cruise control on long open stretches of level highway. With just under 5k miles the Trip B computer, which has never been reset, reads 48.9 mpg. The Trip A computer, which auto resets at each fill up, is consistently right around 50 mpg give or take. The last road trip was from San Francisco to Las Vegas and back over the 9800 foot Tioga Pass in Yosemite and across the -282 foot Death Valley. I think your constant use of ACC is affecting your results.
How’s the interior quality? Any annoying rattles?
@pi.actual Can you elaborate, please, on the performance of the car under sustained hill-climbing conditions such as your Tioga Pass trip?
It seems that the Achilles heel of this hybrid system is a prolonged load condition (up hill) at highway speeds.
The modest-sized 2L NA engine is directly connected to the wheels under this load condition. The battery plays no role. From other owners’ reviews, the car can struggle to maintain highway speeds, much less to accelerate.
A drop in efficiency is expected. What would concern me is a sense that the drivetrain power is marginal. Would be interested to know your experience.
@@marcinmerrimack1726 I can't speak for other people's experiences but for me I have not noticed it "struggling" at any point and passing at highway speeds is a breeze. I also crossed Death Valley which involved three very steep passes and none were a problem. Of course I was solo so maybe with four passengers and luggage? The direct coupling of the engine will only occur between 65 - 80 mph. Above 80 it is 100% hybrid mode. The power flow synoptic shows a little gear symbol when it is coupled so you can directly observe this. Other than that you wouldn't know if the clutch was engaged or not.
@@pi.actual I appreciate the reply. When I test drive the car here, I really don’t have the opportunity to assess the performance under prolonged uphill conditions. Your experience is encouraging.
But I don’t yet understand the Honda hybrid system behavior. Direct coupling of the engine means that there’s no electric motor contribution, I believe. So I’d be relying solely on a 2L NA engine for propulsion in that speed range. In contrast, my older Accord has a 2.4L NA 5MT drivetrain. The Accord is roughly the same weight as the Hybrid Civic and so I should expect less “grunt” from the Civic in that speed range, I assume.
And ‘hybrid’ operation resuming in the Civic at speeds above 80mph is unclear to me. Does that mean that the ‘uncoupled’ engine is better utilized then to just spin the generator motor sufficiently to power the drive motor to achieve speeds above 80mph? And whatever role the small 1kW battery has in this condition, if any, has to be short lived. It’s a mystery…
Tioga pass! Love that area
For the Canadian Viewers- I have a 2020 Civic LX with the 2.0L gas engine with the CVT transmission and average trip on the odometer was 5.5L/100km (42 mpg) and the total trip was 666.9 km (414 miles) with 69km (42 miles) remaining till empty. I did it on a full tank of gas. There were 2 people
in the car (driver and passenger) with light luggage driving on average the speed limit and on eco mode.
After owning this exact same car for a month (same color too!)... it seems finely tuned to perform best cruising around suburbia. I haven't tested it long range or consistent high speeds. I have taken several 15-20 mile trips of country-type miles and i've hit 58-60 MPG. I think if you put in in ECON mode you'd see closer to 45-46 MPG for a long trip like this video. I Also feel the adaptive cruise control might hurt your MPG but that seems to go against conventional wisdom
I have a Honda Accord Hybrid, and I do get less mpg with cruise on. You have to train your foot for light pressure to get good MPG, but I average around 54 mpg combined not using cruise.
I own a 2024 Civic EX-L hatchback (the 1.5 turbo). In May I took it on a 1300 mile road trip and averaged 42.5. In August I did a 300 mile day trip and got 47.7. I don’t think the hybrid is worth the money if you’re primarily on the open road. If you’re on city streets most of the time then the hybrid is worth it. My EX-L will typically get upper 20s mpg in city driving, pretty underwhelming. Honda has a winner here and will sell a bunch of these, even when most people want an SUV.
I had a 78 Diesel VW Rabbit- same fuel mileage. I dont think its worth it pay 5 k over the Base LX Civic unless you drive 20-30 k per year.
If you’re going to evaluate road comfort and fuel economy, you need to address tire pressure. It will make a noticeable difference in both.
Inflation pressure was set to manufacturer recommendations
On a trip to Texas from NY and back, I averaged 44 mpg in a 2020 Civic Si doing 75-80mph the whole way, with my best calculated trip tank at 47mpg (not the tripmeter...real calculation.)
That calculation is also in my video ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=QjQhXag7lyJsgnQy&t=1113
No way. You miscalculated it. It is rated 26/36. There is no that you would average 10mpgs better than rated and going 75-80.
I get around the same thing with my 2022 SI. Around 42 MPG driving from NY to PA. Currently averaging 35 MPG
I would be curious to see a road noise comparison at 78mph vs. the 2025 Toyota Camry SE. (About the same cost)
I'm interested to hear how the civic hybrid does too. I have a 2025 camry xse and it was quite noisy on at freeway speeds especially 75 mph and above. I've changed to quieter tires added sound deadening materials in all four wheel wells, that cut down the road noise quite a lot.I was getting wind noise coming from the a pillar area but after getting some low profile window visors, that cut down almost all the wind noise and it has been very quiet even at 80 mph. I think the civic may probably perform the same.
@@billc8205 good to know Bill, thanks! I was considering a Camry as a replacement for my 16 year old BMW when it bites the dust. (Running great but you just never know with a car that old). Want something quiet and comfortable. May need to look at a used Lexus or maybe another BMw (B58 engine I hear is reliable as long as you keep up with maintenance).
@@BrianNC81 The B58 is very reliable as it was developed to Toyota standards so toyota could use it in the Supra, I love my M340i. And it's very refined at speeds, very little noise at 75-80 MPH. If i were you, i'd consider a lightly used M340i, they're great values. Make sure to get with driver's assistance package, BMW's system works great on the freeway. And hands free traffic jam assist below 40 MPH is a life saver for my commute.
@@billc8205the civic is louder than the Camry which has the double glass.
You think it’s Great that it only to 8.8 gallons to fill when the tank holds 10 gallons? Why is that great? I get that it’s good mileage , but did you expect the fill to be say 11 or 12 gallons?
Thank you for your great review. The actual MPG calculation using the total milea ÷ gallons = 41.9 that is the true number vs the 43.9 on the car's computer. The MPG is kind of disappointing considering average speed was only 61 mph. For comparison, our new Prius LE gets around 55 mpg per tank comprised of mostly short commutes in Los Angeles urban areas. We would've probably get close to 60 if driven the same route in this video.
I did calculate fuel economy using miles driven and gasoline pumped as well: ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=HrfqzbQ5NHKV1FG1&t=1112
As for the 61 mph number, that's average speed, including all city driving, segments of heavy traffic on the interstate, etc. I traveled at 78 mph, according to the Honda Civic's speedometer.
@viewsonvehicles will you recommend this for a new driver is it easy to drive safe nothing to fast or what would you recommend but they a travel nurse?
@@summer-w1d I think it's a great car that easy to drive safe. Yes, would recommend as long as you like it as well.
The Touring version has active noise cancellation. Which version is he driving here?
Cold, around 15 degrees, and on highway driving, I'm getting 31 mpg. I hope it goes up when it's warmer.
Thank you for the great review. Surprising that the road noise is so noticeable considering the noise reducing technology in the wheels. I’ve also seen so many reviews that claim how quiet the new civic is. Reconsidering my purchase decision now.
It could be the tires used. OEM's aren't going to use the quietest ones, they are going to use what's cheapest on scale. If you plan on keeping the car long term, buy a new, quieter set and sell the OEM ones to recoup of the cost.
Thank you! I think the Civic is still worth a test drive. Whatever you decide, I hope you love it.
@@CODE-BROWNHonda supposedly picked these tires because they are quieter for this vehicle. If you want a quieter car you’ll need to step up to the accord or Camry which have acoustic glass and better overall sound deadening because they’re a step up from the civic. I wouldn’t think that another set of tires on the civic would drastically change the road noise and honestly it seems silly to go drop $700+ on a new set of tires for a car you just spent a lot of money on lol.
@@petethehawk5186 Honda doesn't give a shit about acoustic noise with tires. They went with the ones that are going to give the most MPG's. Yes, people regularly change out OEM trash tires for better brands all the time. You can sell of the OEM ones and make most of your money back.
If you don't drive in the upper Midwest, you will find the ride a lot quieter. Winters and salt leave pretty tough surfaces and concrete is notably bad,
I rented a Toyota Crown XLE AWD for one week and easily (no hypermilling) achieved on average 47 miles per hour (in real world driving). The car is very quiet and luxurious and felt more like a Lexus than Toyota. Toyota Safety Sense was excellent and the seats were very comfortable for four adults and luggage. Civic - $35K vs Crown -$43K I will take the Crown when you factor in the AWD, comfort, resale, and known reliability..
How is the drive train different from the Honda hybrid clarity drivetrain? Honda clarity was a big dud.
$150 Noise cancelling earbuds might take the noise level down to Acura levels. Works like a charm on my Tesla.
Should have switched it to ECON mode instead of normal. Maybe only an mpg or two but would have maximized it. Great all around car!
In my experience, Eco mode mainly changes the throttle map, which makes it easier to accelerate slower and more smoothly, but doesn't do much for steady state highway driving. That said, all those little moments of speeding up and slowing down in heavier highway traffic, etc. probably would've improved fuel economy a bit. Fair point.
@@viewsonvehicles Good point on the throttle map. Was not a fair assumption by me just bc you see the little green leaf means you instantly get better MPG. You did a good job controlled driving scenario and calculating the accuracy. Nice work!
@@awolryan Thank you!
previously owned a 17 civic ex-t, with the 1.5L turbo with manual transmission. Drove it to Florida and was able to achieve 50 miles to the gallon. Only reason I go rid of that car was because it was not comfortable inside for road trip. If this hybrid car is more comfortable than the 17 civic, I may consider to get it.
get the crv brid for comfort its barely 4.5k more over a civic brid
The only deal breaker for me is no spare tire? I know there has to a place for the battery but I need a spare, ask me how I know. Had a SI and hit a small pothole that tore my sidewall, the fix a flat kit was useless, waited 3 hours at midnight for a tow, never again would I purchase a vehicle without a spare tire. I know I can put one in the trunk but there goes my storage.
SI probably had low profile tires which are subject to tire and wheel damage. And increased road noise.
Unless you’re on a race track, higher profile tires make much more sense.
If it's like the Accord a couple of hundred dollars will get you a OEM spare and tool kit. Small lithium battery sits under rear seat
Agree. I believe the sedan version has room for a spare but you will need to pony up an extra $400. Any profile tire can get a flat at any time. It’s easy to change a tire and be on your way.
@@cdipierro Where did you buy your spare and what where the specs?
AAA solves the tire changing problem. About $50.00 per year. My wife couldn't change a tire if she had a spare.
It looks like you were driving in Normal mode most of the time. Have you tried switching to Econ mode and, if so, did the gas milage get any better?
In my experience, eco mode just change much in steady state highway driving. Though, it may have improved the numbers in heavier traffic with more accel and decel.
Oh hell yeah! Would tour it all day long
cars like this in europe and canada are selling for 45g, inflation is killing the world.
It's not inflation, it's the evil vermin printed your money away.
Big corporations know they can just keep upping the prices
@@DkpProductions no they are printing money and devaluing the dollar, usa debt is out of control, also the valueless when you keep printing money. Happened to Nigeria and dirty 30's
I own the 2024 Civic EX. It has the 1.5 turbo engine and after one year of use I am averaging 40 MPG.
Nice video! Question- I've heard different takes on the interior noise of the Civic Hybrid and I was wondering since the radio seemed to be off on your trip- does the cars Active Noise Cancelling work if the audio system is off?
Also it would be great if you could get a sound measuring device to record provide while on your tests. Real world results are great and you could say the dB was X at 70MP on asphalt vs concrete.
I have no idea if my civic ANC works at all. I think it’s better at cancelling the engine noise, not the road noise
Thank you for the compliment and the suggestion. I used to regularly use sound level testing, but there is a very wide variety of amount of noise verses unpleasant noises you hear, which is why I stick to the sound quality my own ear picks up. But, based on your comment, I will reconsider. And, yes, I believe ANC works all the time.
Is the car broken in yet? It will do better once it is
People have differing opinions on what mileage counts as broken in. As I show in the video, I started with a bit more than 2000 miles on the ODO.
Did you actually measure the mpg while traveling or did you rely on the trip computer? It looks like you're just using the trip computer, which I'm not sure is accurate. Does anyone in the comments have information to add???
I travel 1.5 hours each way to work and would like to gather accurate hwy mpg if possible.
I'm averaging 31mpg now in a Buick Envision that is very comfortable, and wondering if it might be worth the switch. Thanks!
ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=KXqREc05uNymCqp1&t=1112
Yes I did, as shown in the moment of the video above. This will beat your 31 mpg, I'm confident in that, but exact mileage depends on many different factors, not lease of which is driving style. Hope that helps.
@@viewsonvehicles Thank you!
I love it, I want to get one but not for 40k out the door
Yeah. Thanks for the honest MPG review. That is what I am finding myself as a daily driver. I dunno what other people are talking about getting way over 55MPG. They all must be lying.
The ride is an issue for me also. It's those thin profile tires. They are lame.
As a "Touring" vehicle, Honda needs to separate it from the "Sport" by putting more comfortable tires on the Touring model, let the Sport guys have the thin ones
Definitely hurting the MPG using Cruise Control at such high speeds
The car is capable of getting over its 50 MPG rating. I have the Sport Touring Hybrid and on some trips i’ve gotten up to 70 MPG in mixed city/highway driving. Overall I’m averaging around 50 MPG since I’ve owned the vehicle. My MPG has dropped a little bit recently as it is getting colder out and the system keeps the engine on to heat the cabin.
@@michaelnash2972 You just contradicted yourself. Enjoy that!
@@TheOtherKine What contradiction? Stated the car is capable of getting 50 MPG. States they got up to 70 MPG on some trips in mixed driving. States total average since owning is about 50 MPG.
There is no contradiction.
Go look at TFL video "2025 Honda Civic Hybrid Road Trip Review: Do Crepes Really Taste Better at a Mile Above Sea Level?" where they did a round trip of 85 miles and averaged 70 MPG.
In two comments you say other people who get different results are liar or accuse them of contradicting themselves. Bro, maybe be a better person and just realize DRIVING style affects mileage way more than anything else.
@@Komainu959 I OWN the car. Ive tried to hypermile it for 3 months now. The people are LYING. It is not possible to do any of those things with regular driving. I've tried.
My 2023 CRV hybrid gets 40.1 mpg consistently. Speed doesn't seem to matter for mpg readings. I am more than happy with 40 mpg. Most surprising is the "get up and go" in traffic. This is a solid vehicle.
Why didn t u go for the civic instead?
Speed doesn't matter? That's not how it works at all
What I want to know about Honda's hybrid system: what happens after 10 to 15 years of ownership and the hybrid battery completely "fails" (unable to hold any charge, or substantial amount of charge) will the car still operate in a kind of 'limp' mode??? (or will it not run at all??)
they go to full gas mode so your car naturally un-evolves to a base model accord/civic
So many roads in America are 75 or 80. It seems like a big miss that the EPA doesn't include that in its testing.
60 mph is the max speed to get good mileage. Wind resistance will win every time.
I agree.
@@DkpProductions and most highways are inclined upwards adding more stress to the combustion
I noticed that you took the trip in Normal mode. Wonder how it performs in Econ?
In my experience with the car, steady state highway driving doesn't benefit much from the Econ mode. It would help a bit when speeding up and slowing down in traffic. That may make it marginally better overall as a result. I did talk about all the drive modes a bit in my main review, in case that helps: ruclips.net/video/VXv3rOe_928/видео.htmlsi=7tONP2aOwdiymNKa
Great review and feedback. How’s the interior build quality? Any annoying rattles?
Good build quality. I did not notice any rattling.
Thanks for the great review. I like the new civic however with is missing the lumber support and also doesn't look like it has satellite radio anymore so those are a must for me so I'm out.
Receiving siriusxm from the satellite is overrated. The frequency compression is crazy bad. Stream siriusxm from your phone in carplay or android auto.
Add it through an app on Google or Apple Carplay
I get 39mpg Hwy (easy) in my '22 base Corolla. I thought the Honda would do way better. Thanks for doing this video. Very informative.
You don't know how hybrids work buddy
@@disco.lemonade Please. Explain.
I get 47 mpg in a much heavier 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, especially on long highway drives. His issue is based on what speed that he said he was traveling at, he is going tooooo fast to get good mileage. Between 60 and 70 is the optimum speed, for reasonable air resistance.
Hybrids do better in city driving because they really don't use the battery too much on highway. That's why it's not going to impress on the highway numbers but he's going well above the EPA/Honda testing speeds for MPG.
@@tomn.8475 True. I just think the Camry hybrid is probably the better overall value with better hwy mpg.
My non-hybrid Rav4 at 65 makes around 40. Though it would be nice to get that at 80 mph.
If you put in the LX trim's 16" tires then you can probably get 5-8 mpg more. I hope Honda will add the LX hybrid trim.
My guess is Honda's next update will make the Civic Hybrid only.
I have a 2021 Toyota Highlander hybrid which is rated at 35mpg. I use it for soccer mom activities. I have 3 kids, also added a tow hitch, side steps, and roof rails and still get 34-35mpg. If I just cruise on the freeway at 55-60mph, I can get 40mpg. So considering you’re driving by yourself, the Civic hybrid’s real world mpg is underwhelming.
It's a completely different Hybrid system. It's not a planetary-gear system like the Toyota is, and Toyota has the big Lithium Battery pack under the back seat that this Civic does not have. The Civic works on a smaller one and charges more through regenerative, whereas the Toyota can run on the battery pack for a while.
My '14 Accord Hybrid could achieve over 50mpg for a tank on long, mixed driving trips. Not at close to 80mph!
What color is that please ?
It's called Blue Lagoon Pearl. I explain that and much more here in my main review: ruclips.net/video/VXv3rOe_928/видео.htmlsi=EB1iW73LkIDHIkiL
Can you comment on how long it takes to get your $ back vs non-hybrid civic using todays gas price and avg. miles driven say 15k per year.
I think the answer might be close to forever.😊
If you go by Government numbers it costs:
price of gas at the moment in my area - $3.50.
Non hybrid Civic. 36 combined MPG.
Hybrid Civic combined 49 MPG.
15,000 miles/36 mpg *$3.50 = $1458.33 a year for Non Hybrid Civic
15,000 miles/49 mph*$3.50 = $1071.43 a year for Hybrid Civic.
You save $386.90 a year. If you drive more than that and more in the city, it's better. More highway and/or fewer miles, it's worse.
You’re welcome to get the non-hybrid. The reason for getting the hybrid isn’t only to get better fuel economy. It’s also for the increased power and features..
Nice car, and I considered it, but ultimately decided on a 2025 Camry XLE. The extra bit of comfort and quietness is important to me.
There's lot to like about the new Camry. ruclips.net/video/MMxAeEmkLz8/видео.htmlsi=TW1K1RTkDmLIeiUp
You are
r doing almost 80 miles per hour and you arer wondering why you are below the EPA rating??? Try 55 mph and see how your fuel economy improves.
People that want this vehicle are avid Honda / Civic enthusiasts who want the top trim level; which happens to be a hybrid - that’s why I bought one.
Proud just did 950 mile range.
How tall are you. Trying to gauge the space/comfort level. I am 6’1”.
I am 5'11''. I talk about space and comfort in detail here: ruclips.net/video/y17GoGWU26k/видео.htmlsi=WWYMoEhPgO2jx-cu
@@viewsonvehicles thank you very much. It’s very spacious.
@@williamhau4713 You're welcome. 👍
Appears there’s moderate road noise on this highway?😎
At higher speeds, you lose gas mileage. This car should get close to 500 miles. If you're getting under 400 miles, you're not driving it efficiently. Weather and the going up on the road, including cold weather and wind.
Fuel tank is ridiculously small.
Ya was hoping to see over 500 miles a tank
I imagine the road noise would be better if you got away from upper Midwestern roads.....
wtf in my 2018 civic 1.5L Turbo I get the same mpg. I drive about 40k miles a year
Fuel mileage numbers for hybrids aren't impressive compared to regular ICE vehicles on a highway.
In the cities though hybrids are superb in terms of fuel numbers.
hybrids are more of a "city living" vehicle than a highway vehicle.
What are some cars that excel at highway speeds?
@@SyrupCanuck either go for sedans to get the best mpg or grab any v8 truck if your heavy on the gas pedal
@ Ya seems to be the way. Almost impossible to get into a SUV and still get good mpgs. Loved the cx 50 but lucky to get 30mpg.
Don't expect good fuel economy on an empty none traffic road with a hybrid its main purpose is regenerative breaking in traffic and busy roads!
I looking to buy a newer civic non turbo tho I don't drive alot I my go sport 2.0 or hybrid get better mpg for a few thousand dollars more
You are not getting the expected mpg, because you are driving the car too damn fast. Sixty-five to Seventy miles per miles is optimal for most hybrids. When you drive faster than that, the ICE engine kicks in more thus reducing MPG. My 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, consistently gets 49 to 51mpg, if I keep it at about 65 mpg, or 45-47 if I keep it at 70mpg, for drive that exceed say 250 miles.
Shucks I can get my non-hybrid Mazda 6 with a manual tranny to achieve highway mileage of 38mpg, if I keep it at 65mph on the highway for long drives, and at least 34mpg, if I push it to 70.
Its simple physics, the higher the speed, the more air resistance.
Also how new the car is makes a difference. I rented a brand new (with 10 miles on the clock) 2024 Honda Accord Hybrid Sport. Was shocked that the mileage achieved was only 39 to 41mpg. A month later I rented one with 10,000 miles on the clock. That vehicle had no problem averaging about 47mpg.
The purpose of the test was not to get the expected MPG, but to drive at the speed of traffic and see what the MPG Civic achieved as a result. I pointed out in the video that the Civic I tested started with just above 2000 miles on the odometer and ended it with a bit over 2800 miles.
If you drive 65-70 in Michigan, you will end with a semi truck up your rear end.
Driving on concrete is going to be very loud in almost any car.
EPA rates highway mileage at 55 mph, do they not? You were doing 78 mph. I would not complain!
I did not complain. I stated the EPA numbers, the numbers of the trip computer, and a quick calculation of gallons added over miles.
He has been driving in NORMAL and should have switched to ECON mode once he got on the interstate. That would have increased his mpg into the high 40's or low 50's.
no it definitely would not have. my car (same one as his) never leaves eco mode and i do lots of highway and I get 40 on average so far.
Manufacturers should improve NVH of these compact cars. They are not cheap $15k underpowered econobox anymore.
Actually in 1995 a civic was less than 15k which is almost 31k adjusted for inflation so your point doesn't stand and they're most certainly quieter than they were in 1995 as well.
Dude, you are doing over 70mph. The efficient speed is about 65mph.
Why do you keep changing camera views when you finish a sentence? lol
I average 5-6l/100km on highway in my 2018 civic touring
Too bad about the road noise. Its a typical Honda and Acura downfall
The radio doesn’t work?
@@BillLaBrie turning up the radio doesn't reduce road noise. And is not a substitute for reducing road noise.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow No, really?
@@BillLaBrie do you have a valid argument?
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Of course I do.
Bruh. You're going over 70mph most of the way, and not in "eco mode" mostly. Obviously, the mpg will not be showing what epa stated... try going 65-70 mph on highways, and you should see the average go way higher than what you're getting. Such speeds do affect the mpg a lot...
The point of this test was to drive at average highway speeds (I passed some and was passed by some) and see what fuel economy I got. The highway EPA figure was simply a metric to compare against. I also tested the comfort and noise level of the car on a longer trip.
I get better highway efficiency than this 2025 civic touring hybrid on my 2018 civic touring. I get 5.3l/100km
5.3L/100kms is insanely good!
Honda took away Sirius XM Satellite radio, which I have built into my 2012 TSX Wagon. For me, this a real fail for an otherwise desirable Civic.
Compare to camry le 2025
Next time, just do the math from the pump reading, not the trip computer.
I did do the math. It’s at the end of the video
Spare tire honda, customers demand it. Still havent learned from the Hybrid CRV. Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.
In my corolla hybrid its smooth like a lexus and i smash 80 with 55 mpg
Nonsense!
I like the Corolla too. ruclips.net/video/WhNwohnPvQg/видео.htmlsi=bhWPieJ48pglbwC4
I’m a little disappointed. Sold my '19' Civic SI 2 door that would honestly get 44 MPG’s highway on cruise control (65 mph, no hills).
I do understand that Hybrids are less efficient on the highway, but your real world driving made me reconsider buying this car along with the lack of Sirius radio. My phone data is limited and on a long drive like yours it would eat it up. 🫤
Why is everyone reviewing the most expensive trim?
You call that a “long drive”? I just went from Saint George Utah to Anchorage and from there to Boston and back to Utah in my 24 CRV Hybrid and loved every mile. Super comfortable but gas mileage was nothing special for obvious reasons. Great car!!
A 411 mile range? How small is that fuel tank? 10 gallons?
By the way, above about 47mph the engine isn’t just “contributing”, it’s doing all the driving. This has a single overdrive gear that the clutch connects to the front axle. The reason you’re getting just 40mpg is your high speed. 78mph is not only illegal, but is also a very high speed for any car. It isn’t fuel efficient. Remember, that gear is made for 47mph as well, so doing 78mph you’re revving it much higher. You can see that the tach is around 2700-2800rpms. Drop to 70 and you’ll see a huge difference. At 65mph you’ll be doing close to 50mpg.
As I show in the video, the fuel tank is 10.6 gallons. At 78 mph, I kept up with traffic. I passed some folks and many passed me. ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=S14W33rqbLpH-rHo&t=643
There is no tachometer and regardless of speed if the EV light is on the engine is not running. You have a lot of misinformation on how this thing works.
@@pi.actual There Is a tachometer readout which you can CLEARLY see! Also, the Civic is NEVER in EV mode at highway speeds! YOU are the misinformed one here!
@@afcgeo882 That is a power % meter, not a tachometer. I have owned this car for two months and put almost 5k miles on it. Goes into EV mode at highway speeds up to 80 mph all the time. You are making statements that are completely false.
@@pi.actual The ONLY time it can go into EV at highway speeds is when it’s regen braking
350 miles / 8.3 gallons is 42 mpg, not 44. That's not great at 62 mph. At that speed my 2023 Camy Hybrid XSE gets over 45mpg, and it's a much bigger, quieter car.
I calculated MPG using gas station receipts and miles driven at the end of the video. 62 mph is average speed over the course of the trip, including all idling, accelerating, and braking, not set speed on the interstate. Cruise control was set to 78 mph.
$35k is steep, Elantra starts at 25
But it’s a Hyundai. 😂
It's $33k and the Civic also starts just above $25k ruclips.net/video/VXv3rOe_928/видео.htmlsi=jJZZOwuSdfp2jnGJ&t=77
Comparing the top level trim and a hybrid to a base Elantra lol.
2016 WRX 30 miles one way on the highway i get 39 mpg but I have to cruise at 60 mph.
That's pretty disappointing highway gas mileage. A 10-year-old Mazda 3 would get pretty much the same and it's way less complicated and way less costly.
You must have miscalculated respectfully. This gets significantly better mileage and it is not even close. Mazda is rated about 10mpg less or more, highway.
@@calebniederhofer6529 - I owned a 2015 Mazda3 and got over 40mpg on long trips. I know what i'm talking about.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Maybe on a level road and doing 55mph. The Civic hybrid would do that and get considerably better. I looked up that car and gets 37 Highway and 28 city epa ratings. No way is it getting anywhere near a CVT hybrid
@@calebniederhofer6529 More like 75mph. And it's rated by the EPA at 40 highway. Not sure what your problem is.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Absolutely not. Are you trolling or something?
This is ridiculous for an MPG video. The EPA does not measure highway fuel economy going 70+ miles per hour.
I was not performing an EPA test. I tested fuel economy on a road trip while traveling speeds that kept up with traffic. I then compared my numbers to the EPA figures.
@@viewsonvehicles what's done is done but an emphasis on perhaps "real world" driving speeds. For future videos. I think it is VERY useful you do this bc the vast majority of people won't drive at speeds or strategies that try to get to the epa rating. Plus then you could turn on the AC! Now that is a test I've not seen any content creator do.
Good grief! Enough with the lumbar support complaining. So easily overcome with a lumbar cushion.
Or a can of Pringles.
well at that speed... your fuel economy is reduced a lot
Civic si easily gets mid forties hiway 70mph
30 city ex ept driving hard
This is a turbo, shouldnt you be putting 93 in it??
It's not a turbo. It's a naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter, hybrid inline-four-cylinder engine. New for 2025.
Traveling at close to 80mph does not stellar mileage make.
The noise, I am deaf so that don’t bother me 😊
It's a great car in many ways, too!
Recalled
From the video I get, noisy, stiff, bad lumbar support, no spare tire and a small gas tank so less range for $33,000. I think I will skip this car.
It seems as if you skipped through and selectively listened to about 15 seconds of the roughly 20 minute video.
But if it’s not a good fit for you as a car, I hope you find something you like!
In fact, here’s another one to consider: ruclips.net/video/WhNwohnPvQg/видео.htmlsi=D2RX8yXTUZWYBfJH
Prius looks nicer and gets better mpgs
The Prius is horrid.
@@21Piloteer The new prius... Its nice, have you seen it? Far better than this car.
I agree. The new one is a HUGE improvement. ruclips.net/video/viPD9qwrmac/видео.html
Any Prius looks goofy af. No thanks.
@@SIIKAP1 not the new one. It got Design of the year simp
over 30k for a civic
Top of the line Civic, yes. It starts at a bit over $25k
@@viewsonvehicles top of the line plastic interior. i doubt these cars will last at all.
@@mordys6305What are you talking about? They all use plastic. This car has above average reliability and resell value.
Why not trying to obey the speed limit? It’s not 78 mph. Or, are you the typical “patriotic” American?
78 mph followed the flow of traffic. I was passed about as often as I passed someone else.
I'm just surprised he claimed it's under the EPA rating... Yeah dude you're going 78 mph 🤡😂 Every car peaks mileage at around 60 mph.
Put it in eco mode and stop speeding, you’ll get much better fuel economy.
@ no, but it helps.
@ where not talking about your Camry. It has a completely different hybrid system in it so you don’t know.