The reliability should still be high. But in this era of sedans that alone is not enough to keep sedans around. They have to do more thats why this Camry exists.
@@LiteHedded But it also means it was not done right the first time. Poorer components, faulty design or bad manufacturing practices. Maybe a lot of customers went through the pain and reported issues before they have to go for recalls. Recalls were rare back in the day.
@@raknoknakrecalls were rare “back in the day” because there was no reason for auto companies to issue them other than ethics, which is a tenuous motivation for corporations. In modern times you face consequences if you try to hide problems
@@Courtesyflush52 Disagree. Models from the early 2000s rarely had the kind of issues we see when the latest gen RAV4 came out for example. I have owned many toyotas and follow the recalls and problems closely. Toyota reliability has gone down considerably.
“A great experience for someone who just wants a car that’s functional as an appliance but also doesn’t feel like a total shit box”. Send that to the marketing department.
For all the Camry complaints, I appreciate your continued honesty on the experience. As a middle income home owner, I need a car to perform all the roles. Commuting, shopping, family, errands, road trips, and just occasionally a fun detour. Thank you for risking the mundane.
@@Jimster481Toyota's been doing a cvt/hybrid for the last 30 years. I'd be more worried about the price of those headlights or the infotainment unit. That's where the cost of ownership is going to spike.
@@DM-iu1wn As someone who has a hybrid camry that has already needed the batteries replaced, Toyota going hybrid only is the biggest mistake in the long run.
@@andrewyoung1313I'm sorry to hear that, hybrid is going to be the only way these large manufacturers are going to be able to hit epa guidelines. I'd rather have a Toyota hybrid than a gm hybrid.
I want to buy a Toyota but the current gen has the tv glued to the dash and that screams "I'll break as soon as a kid tugs on me". Following Tesla's design practice is dumb. Toyota was acting like a pathetic little sibling. I'm glad they grew up and went back to making an automobile and not a cheap gimmick.
My parents bought a new Camry in 2002 for $20K. Fast forward 22 years and 200K+ miles, they just sold it for $4000. Good deal! And it still drives like new too; nothing ever went wrong. They loved it.
@@johnkonde1975Camry used to be much more expensive. 1992-1996 camry ran into the high 30K to low 40K when adjusted for inflation, and that’s before taxes, registration, and fees
This weekend I got a Camry as a rental, and now my gf is thinking about buying one. We were getting 48mpg on the highway at 70-80mph which I was blown away by; still has decent power if you need to floor it, quiet and feels decent in the corners; a great value for 30k!
In a sea of SUVS we're now at a point where sedans like Camry bring back some notion of composed handling, overall value and no gimmicks. Good luck everybody. 😂
@@EssenceofPureFlavor I feel like the whole car industry has been brought up to a point, obv that's good for the consumer that everything has a standard of quality etc. But also BMW and other 'sporty' brands are bloated electronic messes, which is kind of where the market is in general right now. The Camry is better, but the market is worse.
Glad to see an actual car (not an SUV), that is affordable, and well thought-out without all of the current car tropes. Interior and ergonomics in particular address pretty much all of my complaints with today's cars. I hope they sell a ton of them and that other carmakers learn something from it and follow suit.
japanwatchconnection Everything in the segment is an appliance. When the Camry is even trusted as a great car for all sorts of commutes, even for fleet sales, then it's clearly the benchmark in quality.
Mazda is planning on one supposedly. They filed a trademark for the name “Mazda 6e” which could possibly be a Mazda 6 with the CX-90’s mild hybrid inline-6 system
Gotta say, even as a Honda fanboy, even though this thing is hideous to look at, they worked on it where it counts. And they're on a roll with the rest of their lineup.
@@pabo8080 just buy a 2024 then. This car is 0.5 seconds slower than the v6 in the 0-60 and I couldn't give two less shits about it because it gets 45 mpg. We NEED hybrids. One EV can make like 25 hybrids.
I sold Toyota cars in 1994 when they made a Camry station wagon. Toyota never gave us enough of those. As soon as one came on the lot it sold. They discontinued that model because of poor sales. Those low numbers were their doing. Would love to another Camry wagon.
@@imnotsqiddy The Venza is too tall and has no roof rails. I need a wagon to haul my kayaks to the lake and pick up some lumber at Lowes. I'm forced to buy Euro stuff because the Japanese don't cater to that market. Subaru to some extent but they keep getting taller so loading the roof calls for a step ladder.
The thing nobody ever mentions about 16" rims is you'll get better mpg, lower NVH, less tire wear, and better ride comfort. Large rims creates more problems than it solves. This is coming from someone who used to hop up Civics back in the day. Oh yeah, you also get worse acceleration.
there's only one problem large rims are able to solve. and that is not enough space for big enough brakes. which is obviously not an issuee on any normalîsh car.
Very true! Plus small brakes in large wheels just look daft. Always fit the smallest rims that fit around the front brakes. Want bigger wheels? Should have bought the more powerful model with bigger brakes. I don't get the large wheel obsession at all.
@@ryanmcfarland1900 provided you are in a vehicle where tyre sidewall is the limiting factor. which you aren't until you go to very sporty, no SUVs and trucks can't fall under that category, vehicles. so just go with the smallest rims the manufacturer offers.
I don’t know, I think is because we have similar age, but imo you’re the best car channel by far. Objective, no fuss, dry and straight jokes and all the important bits covered. Congrats boys.
I'm sorry. That said I have spent over 10k on 2 ~2000 Camry's (including repairs and one an engine... cuz car was great but previous owner was like 'oil light is on lemme drive 10 miles home to show my husband'-- it made it home, but only 2 blocks after getting oil ---NOT MY WIFE-, just wanted to add--) recently just setting up young fam with cars they would have to be negligent to kill.
there was a toyota yaris sort of thing called matrix, 2.4 liter inlien3 like camry in small car. this same drivtrain in this new camery stuff, in compact 4 seater that sint so tall in height... maybe 56 mpg instead of 46 , maybe 60
I learned to drive on my mom's 97 Camry. The simplicity and good ergonomics of that car spoiled me and makes me confused how some cars still have shitty confusing interiors when Toyota figured it out in 1997.
We bought a 1998 Camry V6 for a friend who needed a car. It had 120,000 miles on it, a CEL, and a valve cover leak. Fixed the VC leak, replaced the gas cap and reset the light, and that thing is still on the road with well over 300,000 miles on it. Brakes, exhaust and tires. That's it. Amazing.
@Jazzmaster1992 neither did i until my 21 rav4 xse hybrid, will be my last toyota. They are so circle jerked online its totally bias info, they are boring as fuck and do not have the reliability of old.
I never had a Camry, but my friend did. It could be unlocked with any key. So I would unlock it before school since he was there earlier than me, and mess with his seat settings.
I usually write jokes or bullshit in the comment section but the Camry is such a reliable car. My parents have an 05 Camry SE, with 446,000 miles. That car is insanely reliable and although it’s not a hybrid, Camrys are a great choice. Also, TuxMat is my new Dad
That car was reliable. This new car won't be nearly as reliable. It will require regular battery pack replacements every 4-7 years if you want to maintain "peak" performance (which it really never is even after the first year of use on a new pack). It'll all sorts of other issues...along with any major recalls that'll also likely come along. All that besides the fact of how horrible CVTs/eCVTs are to drive...especially with that damn droning. Honda's not as bad, cause they fake shift logic...still hate those things tho.
@@BigBear--no toyota hybrids dont require new battery packs in 4 to 7 years. Ask a taxi driver with 400 to 500K miles or clicks. EVs are gonna be much worse .
@@28naveenator27van What kills the batteries is time. A Taxi driver will get much more miles out of a battery because he drives a lot in a shorter period. These cars WILL require a battery swap in their life which is an expense you must save for or sell the car before that shit happens
I love that the Camry keeps a low belt-line with big open windows for visibility. Completely debunks the myth that new cars need high belt-lines and tiny windows for safety. It's done because less glass is cheaper.
@japanwatchconnection Everyone always says new cars have small windows for 'crash safety' or something. They use smaller windows because it's cheaper and because it looks 'sexy'. I wanna be able to see outside the damn car
japanwatchconnection the sheetmetal does nothing for safety whatsoever. so any thickness is good enough. and sound obviously doesn't actually mean anything either. as is shown by plenty of old doors that sound really solid but are complete and utter garbage in a side impact while new doors with a light sound are actually safe.
@japanwatchconnection fun fact: that "thunk" you hear when you close an "expensive-sounding" car is an engineered sound. It has nothing to do with how hollow, heavy, or big a car door is (or vice versa). Nor does it have to do with how expensive a car is, for that matter. You can just as easily make the door closures on a hunk of shit from the 1970s sound just as good as a modern-day SUV if you get the fitment and weatherstripping placement just right. But doing that on a production line churning out thousands of cars a day is a LOT harder - and therefore more expensive, as it is time-consuming and requires human input.
Toyota is my favourite brand now. I mean look at their line up, they have a bit of everything. The Supra and GR86 are proper sports cars. If you like off roading, their TRD Pro models are very competent. And for the normal folks that just wants a car that works and is functional, they have that as well. They don’t fall too much into the gimmicky stuff and over style designs, while offering great tech and cohesive looking cars.
The single drivetrain and global platform , while full of compromises, is probably the most cost effective way to make a dynamic driving experience. I’ll Jump on the “hybrid is not for me” wagon but I think this will continue to crush in sales . A market efficient vehicle that looks improved. Great video
It's actually pretty wild how much more luxurious that infotainment and climate control makes the Camry feel. I've been comparing it to my Avalon for a while now and it just makes my Avalon feel like a Corolla. I've loved my Avalon but I've recently started to feel like it's lost its touch. It just doesn't remind me that it was effectively a baby Lexus anymore. Toyota has absolutely knocked it out of the park with their recent design language. It honestly feels that the Camry is appealing enough to make it more valuable than the ES series. I might do something I never thought I would do and trade my Avalon in for a Camry.
Camry is a champion. Hybrid is a big plus. There is no mistake that the best Japanese car brands (Lexus, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru, Acura, Honda - plus Suzuki and Mitsubishi outside US) are the most reliable and low TCO (= Total Cost of Ownership) car brands.
@@mez6256 Yup - you'd think it would be LESS reliable, but there's no starter, no alternator, a super simple transmission (ecvt is not the same as a dreaded belt-driven cvt). They're tanks
@@codincoman9019 Nissans did what now? Old Nissan is good, new Nissan (past 2 decades) is garbage. I appreciated that you left the garbage at the curb. And I am stating this from the neutral point of average vehicles. Meaning CVT. Manual transmission Nissans are still alright.
Yeah, since less and less companies are making these kinds of cars, the Camry stands out even more than it used to. I think companies will realise that they are basically letting Toyota walk over them with the Camry in what they initially thought was a 'less popular segment'
Nah that car has no identity, it doesn't evev look like it's supposed to be a Camry. Toyota designers just throws shit on the wall and hope something sticks.
@zZiL341yRj736 completely disagree. Toyota is in the middle of rolling out a new design language. Now this and the prius are the new face and going forward all Toyota are gonna look like this and it's far better than the precious generation.
Australian here. I drove an Australian made, 1996 XV10 "Widebody" 2.2 L 4 cyl Camry for 14 years. A car so reliable that I still see them on the road fairly regularly. I have sat in a current model XV70 Camry and as a bigger guy (6ft tall with a long torso and having put on the pounds over the years) I was surprised that despite the exterior large car dimensions that the Camry lacked head room and partly due to an overly wide centre console (between driver and passenger) and intrusive door cards, the lateral (side to side) space was lacking. I hope that have addressed these issues in the 2025 XV80 model, assuming that Australia gets it or I will have to look for a suitable SUV. My current drive is an Australian made 2011 Toyota Aurion... based on the Camry but with the 2GR-FE V6 3.5L engine.
I have a 2011 Camry SE with the wonderful 2GR-FE V6....I love that engine! Smooth, powerful, reliable, and reasonable fuel economy! It now has over 280,000 miles on it and doesn't consume oil...glorious engine! Cheers!
There are a ton of car review "duos" on RUclips, and most of them spend way too much time trying to be clever and witty... This duo takes its reviewing responsibilities more seriously and the result is much smarter, more helpful insights. Bravo, guys. I even subscribed!
@@mr.iloveroblox2577 Christ. Obviously not as dynamic as a god**** vehicle twice its price but for the market the Camry's in, the last gen was dynamic.
I love how detailed your break downs of these vehicles are from beginning of the vehicles history to the changes seen today, such informative description. Thanks. Keep up the good work guys. 👍💯
@haseebali803 1.5T from Honda is not the greatest motor. My wife's CRV has one and thankfully it's been great but it seems like a lot of people are having issues with it.
I had a few gripes with previous camry: 1) awful driver's seat, felt like sitting on a wooden box 2) super strange brake pedal, mushy (but okay-ish) on low speeds, super hard on higher speeds 3) body roll in corners 4) heavy steering wheel - it's nice at high speeds and when I'm in the mood, but I don't want to sweat every time I'm parking or just trying to navigate small streets in the city in Europe, just give us a setting with comfort and sport steering response. And I've been driving 97 Nissan Primera with questionably functional power steering before, so I know what I'm taking about.
@@hb692we have a 25 Camry LE and the steering is light at low speed and heavy at high speed, so it feels nice to maneuver in a parking lot and good on the highway
YAY - button controls for most things and touch screen if you want/need. Good to "hear" that you can get one that doesn't have too much road noise as well - that's so tiring on a road trip. great vid as usual
@@BassRacerx the new ones are great, they have torque vectoring so I just slow down before corners and floor it when I turn, no under/oversteering at all. No idea why nobody talks about it. 60 lb ft of torque is plenty enough, you can fishtail easily when doing left turns in the snow.
14:20 Speaking the f’n truth!!! Fantastic review and great job keeping things in perspective. This car is on our short list to test drive…the best parts of the old Camry and the Accord. Sign us up!
I’m not the demographic for this car and won’t be buying one, but MAN is it nice to see a smaller, integrated screen in a new vehicle. Also, major bonus points for no fake shifts under wide open throttle.
Appreciate your guys honest reviews. There's not sugar coating compared to most other reviewers. Need a 600 mile per week commuter car but don't need the space of a Camry/Accord.
You must be young. I, too, have a small fun sports car, but for that grinding daily work commute or that long road trip, nothing beats a long wheelbase, quiet ride, listening to a good after market stereo system in a sedan that actually allows a driver to relax and enjoy the drive, while getting virtually the same gas mileage as that buzzy Corolla box.
mate. the the only smaller car that uses less fuel than the carmy, and which is sold in the US, is the prius. everysthing else uses the same amount of fuel while having less space. so just get the camry or a prius
I personally like Toyota's Hybrid platforms. They are smooth at disengaging and engaging. Plus they deliver wonderful fuel economy. I hope to get into one of these and see how well they drive.
Jack and Dr.Goose. I was just going to order a 2024 Camry. I think I’ll be wise to wait until this hits dealers lots. Still driving my 2004 with 300k miles ! 😂
In high school/college I had a ‘91 Camry that I abused but it lasted 311k miles. Now I am 40 and I miss that car. Seeing this video makes me feel like this a car that will fit my life so well.
So I purchased this car 6 hours ago, but an XLE in Reservoir Blue like the tester in this video. I really like it, Toyota did a terrific job! The dealer had 4 Camrys and they were selling fast. I had to pull the trigger quick or wait 2 weeks longer. I was able to negotiate off the $1495.00 addendum and buy the car for $37,210.00 versus the $39,008. The gas mileage is incredible. The Camry drives so smoothly, too, and the acceleration is punchy! Seat comfort is important and these seats are great, and lumbar is fantastic.
I own a 2021 Camry XSE 2.5L I4 FWD. Prior to that I owned a VW Golf R, a Mustang GT, and a Miata. I surprisingly really enjoy the Camry. It's certainly not a sports car, but I knew that going in. I've driven the Camry numerous times between Twin Falls, Id. and SoCal, getting 40mpg down Hwy 93/I-15. It's a great long distance road trip car.
REALLY apapreciate you guys reviewing this car. When I need a new car in 1-2 years, it'll be Accord vs Camry for me, and will refrence this video. Would love a proper shoot out of the two in the future for us normal people that need a normal car to keep for 15+ years.
This puts the Honda Accord in the coffin. You can't beat this value. 29k for the BEST HYBRID SYSTEM in one of the BEST sedans vs honda's 33k...is hard competition.
A few grand isn’t going to make a difference. Get the car you want. These hybrids are good on paper but they’re going to cost more and more in maintenance long term.
@@markm0000nay sayers have been claiming hybrids will be expensive to service since they were introduced. But - at least with Toyota products - that simply has never happened. Toyota hybrids been mainstream products since at least 2007. They have sterling reputations for reliability and low cost of ownership, period.
It never fails. 13 year old Camry fan boys in the comments. Both are great products. Camry people will buy the Camry and Accord people will buy the Accord. It’s always been this way.
I love the commentary from two obvious car enthusiasts! I have a 2015 Camry SE, recently fitted with Avid GT tread at all corners. I feel like I’m driving my old MR2 again! My car buying days are over but will always recommend a Camry with a sport tuned suspension for ANYONE who simply loves having the unadulterated fun of driving a car…and not getting caught by the men in blue. Enjoy!
excellent car and if i was in the market this would be my choice. Toyota is king of reliability. i’m the 2nd owner of a 2002 Lexus ES300 with “only” 181k miles and it has another 181k miles in it. best car i’ve ever owned
@@chuckthetrooper while you aren't wrong I actually enjoyed the vehicle myself, access to a 2GR FKS In the Camry chassis, what more did I need. The reason I didn't go with Lexus or the Avalon was the cost.
Great review. I love my gen 4 Avalon V6 and I am glad they still put R&D time and money into their sedans. I'm also glad they improved the dynamics and inputs, because the Avalon was always a boat.
Bought an '02 w/190K mi. 4yrs ago, never broke down, or gave me a single problem. Best car I've ever owned. Still drives like new, maintenance is cheap & easy. Still gets great MPG.
Great job Toyota! Love to see the competition between accord and camry still works for the customers. Better products all around. My favorite feature I can see throughout the video? The interior roof! No none sense and lots of room!
top trim camry is loq mpg because of quieting materials. camry maybe pretty much a cheaper lexus es, maybe not as good handlign , nto as quiet, but more than enough
The Lexus ES version of this chassis is going to be a serious winner I bet. I will watch this chassis very closely to potentially replace my 2015 toyota hybrid.
That's a bit of a misnomer, based on the mistaken impression that the ES is "based on the Camry." The new Camry is a version of the same platform that the current ES and old Camry are based on, as well as the Corolla and Prius. The next ES will be its own iteration, as the current one is now.
@@alaskanassassin7332 My pleasure. Correcting myself a bit, Mark notes elsewhere in the comments that this is based on the chassis update done for the Crown, and you certainly could expect those same tweaks to show up in the next ES in some form. Cheers back at you.
This is what I don't like about CVTs. The droning of the engine, no shifting... I prefer transmissions with multiple forward gears to shift. The gearshifts are a big part of the car experience for me, and without that or the engine sound, cars won't feel the same for car guys like myself 😢
would be great from now on to see a section in each video for how much of your data the manufacturer will be collecting and selling. Also how the collect it and what types and if the system can be refused fully or be defeated at all. - going forward many buyers considering a “new” car (new models going back to about 2017) are going to be searching for this information and it’d be great if you guys started doing it first ✅ - it may also begin holding manufacturers feet to a fire on how far to implement such data collection or if they should even be doing it on certain models or even at all ~ thanx as always for your great work and videos ✨👏🏽
I love seeing topher name drops. you and topher, along with tedward, are my favs. I'd love to see a true superband review with the three of you. :) One can hope!
borrowed this car today, took my two favorite cambered corners at 65 and 75 mph, and top speed pulled easily to 108 before running out of road. no heavy saloon is a sports car with longer braking points, but can win races on the street for a dose of adrenaline
@@bassandtrebleclef Down to bi-monthly (6 per year) now, but still kicking. The Accord won't get displaced by this Camry. I might win an initial comparison but by next years 10Best the ether will wear off.
japanwatchconnection Seriously, this same baseless negative "Mine's bigger" drivel over and over on every Toyota and Lexus thread for literally years on end. What's your problem? Considered counseling? Maybe change your outlook by volunteering to rewallpaper your mom's basement?
I’m still surprised how in “2024”for 32 thousand dollars,as a mid sized sedan Toyota can not add more sound deadening material to lower road and tire noise.
They mentioned that the higher trims add more. Naturally, the costlier ES adds more still. Affordable pricing on a car stuffed full of advanced engineering has to come out of somewhere. As someone once said about the mid-era Prius, "It's a $25,000 car that drives like a car with a $30,000 car's powertrain and a $20,000 car's interior."
I'm so glad hybrids are now catching on! It's the best of both worlds in terms of price to eco friendliness! Sincerely, a proud owner of an 07' Civic Hybrid.
I have a 24 XSE V6…. And I purposely bought it for the V6 and 8 speed automatic. I get 34-35 on the highway and it’s actually pretty damn fast for a Camry. I’m just glad I got the last of the V6….
I absolutely LOVE❤ my 2020 camry le hybrid....bought it brand new with 30 miles on the odometer....it now has 116,000 miles and had to replace 1 wheel bearing at 100,000 thus far. Just change the oil and air filter every 5k miles and new tires when needed. 👍 Toyota.....doin it right.
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7:25 this is not something you should be singing about. Toyota is known for its reliability, not for being a money pit.
The reliability should still be high. But in this era of sedans that alone is not enough to keep sedans around. They have to do more thats why this Camry exists.
@japanwatchconnection recalls are part of what keeps a car reliable, no?
@@LiteHedded But it also means it was not done right the first time. Poorer components, faulty design or bad manufacturing practices. Maybe a lot of customers went through the pain and reported issues before they have to go for recalls. Recalls were rare back in the day.
@@raknoknakrecalls were rare “back in the day” because there was no reason for auto companies to issue them other than ethics, which is a tenuous motivation for corporations. In modern times you face consequences if you try to hide problems
@@Courtesyflush52 Disagree. Models from the early 2000s rarely had the kind of issues we see when the latest gen RAV4 came out for example. I have owned many toyotas and follow the recalls and problems closely. Toyota reliability has gone down considerably.
“A great experience for someone who just wants a car that’s functional as an appliance but also doesn’t feel like a total shit box”. Send that to the marketing department.
Prob would increase sales
Basically the Camry motto since the beginning. 😄 But they're great cars for that purpose.
No need, they already know. Their job is how to say it, but without saying it.
By total shitbox he meants vw
@@SuperMrBentley I wish I could argue that... But VW has lost its way. They should be taking lessons from Toyota.
For all the Camry complaints, I appreciate your continued honesty on the experience. As a middle income home owner, I need a car to perform all the roles. Commuting, shopping, family, errands, road trips, and just occasionally a fun detour. Thank you for risking the mundane.
This car won't do it though. CvT + Hybrid? Joke af
@@Jimster481Toyota's been doing a cvt/hybrid for the last 30 years. I'd be more worried about the price of those headlights or the infotainment unit. That's where the cost of ownership is going to spike.
@@DM-iu1wn As someone who has a hybrid camry that has already needed the batteries replaced, Toyota going hybrid only is the biggest mistake in the long run.
@@andrewyoung1313I'm sorry to hear that, hybrid is going to be the only way these large manufacturers are going to be able to hit epa guidelines. I'd rather have a Toyota hybrid than a gm hybrid.
@@DM-iu1wn either way unfortunately these new cars won't be lasting as long as the ones from the 90s. It's really a shame
The screen being integrated into the dashboard makes me unbelievably happy. It looks so much better than an iPad glued on top of the dashboard
Probably the ONLY good thing about this car. The rest looks like a total disaster.
@@Jimster481 I disagree. It looks better and reviewers are saying it drives better as well.
I want to buy a Toyota but the current gen has the tv glued to the dash and that screams "I'll break as soon as a kid tugs on me".
Following Tesla's design practice is dumb. Toyota was acting like a pathetic little sibling. I'm glad they grew up and went back to making an automobile and not a cheap gimmick.
@@Jimster481just like you
Looks great. There's a reason it's the best selling sedan in the world
My parents bought a new Camry in 2002 for $20K. Fast forward 22 years and 200K+ miles, they just sold it for $4000. Good deal! And it still drives like new too; nothing ever went wrong. They loved it.
If you adjust that 20k for inflation, your parents spent $35k in today's dollars for their 2002 Camry
@@johnkonde1975Camry used to be much more expensive. 1992-1996 camry ran into the high 30K to low 40K when adjusted for inflation, and that’s before taxes, registration, and fees
@@johnkonde1975dang, pretty on par with todays then. Good to know thanks
Still have my 2002 Camry w almost 200,00. Its not sexy but it gets me where I'm going. 😊
Then they were stupid to sell such a great car. Hold those things for forever.
This weekend I got a Camry as a rental, and now my gf is thinking about buying one. We were getting 48mpg on the highway at 70-80mph which I was blown away by; still has decent power if you need to floor it, quiet and feels decent in the corners; a great value for 30k!
I rented a 2023 non-hybrid Camry for a 3000 mile road trip and I was extremely impressed with how normcore it was. It did everything perfectly
I must be getting old because this looks great to me. ("Great" now means "a smart way to spend your money.")
I'm with you there. Over the hill and losing it!
Same here.
Ditto 👴
absolutely
Agreed! I’d rather split a Ranger Raptor and BMW M240i with the wife….. but this is great too😅. I must be getting old as well.
In a sea of SUVS we're now at a point where sedans like Camry bring back some notion of composed handling, overall value and no gimmicks.
Good luck everybody. 😂
I never thought a Camry would be a pseudo sport sedan. Dark times
@@ADUSNAlthough that can be just as much improvements to the Camry as losses elsewhere.
This is a the actual vehicle 70% of the American driving public need, not another soulless CUV
@@EssenceofPureFlavor I feel like the whole car industry has been brought up to a point, obv that's good for the consumer that everything has a standard of quality etc. But also BMW and other 'sporty' brands are bloated electronic messes, which is kind of where the market is in general right now. The Camry is better, but the market is worse.
@@colin-nekritz A sedan isn't a very good daily. This is more of a second or even third car. A hatchback or wagon makes a lot more sense.
hoping to buy this in 2040
😂😂 right!
There’ll be lots in this condition by then still
I'm dead! Used Toyos and Hondas really are the sweetest deals
the moment I realized Im blessed. I bought a brand new is500 last month
Just like the Prius 2040
Glad to see an actual car (not an SUV), that is affordable, and well thought-out without all of the current car tropes. Interior and ergonomics in particular address pretty much all of my complaints with today's cars. I hope they sell a ton of them and that other carmakers learn something from it and follow suit.
japanwatchconnection Everything in the segment is an appliance. When the Camry is even trusted as a great car for all sorts of commutes, even for fleet sales, then it's clearly the benchmark in quality.
I hope we get expandable thigh support at some point. I hear thigh support is pretty nice. I'd like to try it someday...on a Camry.
japanwatchconnection Not even reliability?
I'm glad "bigger" sedans are still a priority at Toyota and Honda, wish Mazda would get back in the game with a dope 6.
Mazda is planning on one supposedly. They filed a trademark for the name “Mazda 6e” which could possibly be a Mazda 6 with the CX-90’s mild hybrid inline-6 system
@@marco.morel046e is a Chinese market electric model, it’s been unveiled there already it’s a rebadged domestic car there
@@marco.morel04A Mazda 6 with the cx90s inline 6 would be a bmw fighter. Hope it actually comes to fruition
@@marco.morel04that would be so sweet, we need more inline 6s, glad dodge has one now
@@marco.morel04more like a pure electric Mazda 6
Toyota was serious when they said "no more boring cars" and I'm a here for it
Right? Even the Prius looks good now
Gotta say, even as a Honda fanboy, even though this thing is hideous to look at, they worked on it where it counts. And they're on a roll with the rest of their lineup.
The CVT and killing off the V6 make this a boring car now unfortunately
@@pabo8080 just buy a 2024 then. This car is 0.5 seconds slower than the v6 in the 0-60 and I couldn't give two less shits about it because it gets 45 mpg. We NEED hybrids. One EV can make like 25 hybrids.
Wrong. Toyotas failing miserably at it
Most Toyotas don’t drive all that great compared to other brands like Hyundai Kia Mazda Honda
I sold Toyota cars in 1994 when they made a Camry station wagon. Toyota never gave us enough of those. As soon as one came on the lot it sold. They discontinued that model because of poor sales. Those low numbers were their doing. Would love to another Camry wagon.
I mean...a Camry wagon is basically the Venza, unless you wanted a Camry 'Cross'. The Crown Signia is coming soon too
@@imnotsqiddy The Venza is too tall and has no roof rails. I need a wagon to haul my kayaks to the lake and pick up some lumber at Lowes. I'm forced to buy Euro stuff because the Japanese don't cater to that market. Subaru to some extent but they keep getting taller so loading the roof calls for a step ladder.
I would go buy a Camry wagon TODAY if it became a reality. And an actual wagon, not some super curved backend that steals all the cargo space.
So Toyota was like “yeah we made only 120 station wagons, but we only sold 120 station wagons”?
@@imnotsqiddyVenza is a crossover.
The thing nobody ever mentions about 16" rims is you'll get better mpg, lower NVH, less tire wear, and better ride comfort. Large rims creates more problems than it solves. This is coming from someone who used to hop up Civics back in the day. Oh yeah, you also get worse acceleration.
there's only one problem large rims are able to solve. and that is not enough space for big enough brakes. which is obviously not an issuee on any normalîsh car.
@@anonym3017well, that and steering feel.
Very true! Plus small brakes in large wheels just look daft. Always fit the smallest rims that fit around the front brakes. Want bigger wheels? Should have bought the more powerful model with bigger brakes. I don't get the large wheel obsession at all.
Also cheaper tires. Less maintenance cost.
@@ryanmcfarland1900 provided you are in a vehicle where tyre sidewall is the limiting factor. which you aren't until you go to very sporty, no SUVs and trucks can't fall under that category, vehicles.
so just go with the smallest rims the manufacturer offers.
I don’t know, I think is because we have similar age, but imo you’re the best car channel by far. Objective, no fuss, dry and straight jokes and all the important bits covered. Congrats boys.
Mad respect to Toyota for not throwing away the physical buttons. The huge touch screens obsession really got out of control.
I am the Camry man.
Cars owned: Camry, Avalon, Yaris, Camry, and the last Avalon.
I'm sorry.
That said I have spent over 10k on 2 ~2000 Camry's (including repairs and one an engine... cuz car was great but previous owner was like 'oil light is on lemme drive 10 miles home to show my husband'-- it made it home, but only 2 blocks after getting oil ---NOT MY WIFE-, just wanted to add--) recently just setting up young fam with cars they would have to be negligent to kill.
Daring aren't we!
All boring cars live a little driving should be fun too
What was it like going from an Avalon to a Yaris?
there was a toyota yaris sort of thing called matrix, 2.4 liter inlien3 like camry in small car. this same drivtrain in this new camery stuff, in compact 4 seater that sint so tall in height... maybe 56 mpg instead of 46 , maybe 60
Everyone has a Camry story. Amazing car.
Never owned or driven a Toyota, actually.
I learned to drive on my mom's 97 Camry. The simplicity and good ergonomics of that car spoiled me and makes me confused how some cars still have shitty confusing interiors when Toyota figured it out in 1997.
We bought a 1998 Camry V6 for a friend who needed a car. It had 120,000 miles on it, a CEL, and a valve cover leak. Fixed the VC leak, replaced the gas cap and reset the light, and that thing is still on the road with well over 300,000 miles on it. Brakes, exhaust and tires. That's it. Amazing.
@Jazzmaster1992 neither did i until my 21 rav4 xse hybrid, will be my last toyota. They are so circle jerked online its totally bias info, they are boring as fuck and do not have the reliability of old.
I never had a Camry, but my friend did. It could be unlocked with any key. So I would unlock it before school since he was there earlier than me, and mess with his seat settings.
I usually write jokes or bullshit in the comment section but the Camry is such a reliable car.
My parents have an 05 Camry SE, with 446,000 miles.
That car is insanely reliable and although it’s not a hybrid, Camrys are a great choice.
Also, TuxMat is my new Dad
Not anymore. Not like the old ones
I read 44,600 at first, but then… 💀
That car was reliable. This new car won't be nearly as reliable. It will require regular battery pack replacements every 4-7 years if you want to maintain "peak" performance (which it really never is even after the first year of use on a new pack). It'll all sorts of other issues...along with any major recalls that'll also likely come along. All that besides the fact of how horrible CVTs/eCVTs are to drive...especially with that damn droning. Honda's not as bad, cause they fake shift logic...still hate those things tho.
@@BigBear--no toyota hybrids dont require new battery packs in 4 to 7 years. Ask a taxi driver with 400 to 500K miles or clicks. EVs are gonna be much worse .
@@28naveenator27van What kills the batteries is time. A Taxi driver will get much more miles out of a battery because he drives a lot in a shorter period. These cars WILL require a battery swap in their life which is an expense you must save for or sell the car before that shit happens
I love that the Camry keeps a low belt-line with big open windows for visibility.
Completely debunks the myth that new cars need high belt-lines and tiny windows for safety. It's done because less glass is cheaper.
@japanwatchconnection Everyone always says new cars have small windows for 'crash safety' or something. They use smaller windows because it's cheaper and because it looks 'sexy'.
I wanna be able to see outside the damn car
japanwatchconnection the sheetmetal does nothing for safety whatsoever. so any thickness is good enough. and sound obviously doesn't actually mean anything either. as is shown by plenty of old doors that sound really solid but are complete and utter garbage in a side impact while new doors with a light sound are actually safe.
I agree with the visibility even Honda's are like that I reckon. ...
@japanwatchconnection fun fact: that "thunk" you hear when you close an "expensive-sounding" car is an engineered sound. It has nothing to do with how hollow, heavy, or big a car door is (or vice versa). Nor does it have to do with how expensive a car is, for that matter. You can just as easily make the door closures on a hunk of shit from the 1970s sound just as good as a modern-day SUV if you get the fitment and weatherstripping placement just right. But doing that on a production line churning out thousands of cars a day is a LOT harder - and therefore more expensive, as it is time-consuming and requires human input.
But they made the beltline higher on GR86. Which makes that car looks LAME compared to the previous gen personally to me.
Well done, Toyota.
Well done, Jack & Dr. Goose.
Toyota is my favourite brand now. I mean look at their line up, they have a bit of everything. The Supra and GR86 are proper sports cars. If you like off roading, their TRD Pro models are very competent. And for the normal folks that just wants a car that works and is functional, they have that as well. They don’t fall too much into the gimmicky stuff and over style designs, while offering great tech and cohesive looking cars.
Except for their RAV for and highlander ... I hate those cars they way they look and drive and is expensive
@@cyrilmatthew2995They're for SUVtards, helps fund the good cars
Excited to see you guys like this one. I have one on order (XSE) and was a bit nervous it would not have had the liveliness you describe. Great news
How you liking it?
@@topranked5465still waiting for it. Order was placed early February
@@topranked5465 Still waiting on the order allocation :( Deposit was put in early February
The single drivetrain and global platform , while full of compromises, is probably the most cost effective way to make a dynamic driving experience. I’ll
Jump on the “hybrid is not for me” wagon but I think this will continue to crush in sales . A market efficient vehicle that looks improved. Great video
It's actually pretty wild how much more luxurious that infotainment and climate control makes the Camry feel. I've been comparing it to my Avalon for a while now and it just makes my Avalon feel like a Corolla. I've loved my Avalon but I've recently started to feel like it's lost its touch. It just doesn't remind me that it was effectively a baby Lexus anymore. Toyota has absolutely knocked it out of the park with their recent design language. It honestly feels that the Camry is appealing enough to make it more valuable than the ES series. I might do something I never thought I would do and trade my Avalon in for a Camry.
After all these years, this still remains my favorite car related channel. Glad you're still around smooshin it, brother.
Camry is a champion.
Hybrid is a big plus.
There is no mistake that the best Japanese car brands (Lexus, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru, Acura, Honda - plus Suzuki and Mitsubishi outside US) are the most reliable and low TCO (= Total Cost of Ownership) car brands.
No one understands how reliable the hybrid system are
this is definitely my next daily
@@mez6256 Yup - you'd think it would be LESS reliable, but there's no starter, no alternator, a super simple transmission (ecvt is not the same as a dreaded belt-driven cvt). They're tanks
I got tense and then you didn't mention Nissan. I defluffed and love you
@@kloroformd, sorry, I should've put also Nissans that solved their past problems (e.g. Jatco CVT). Or very old Nissans.
@@codincoman9019 Nissans did what now? Old Nissan is good, new Nissan (past 2 decades) is garbage. I appreciated that you left the garbage at the curb.
And I am stating this from the neutral point of average vehicles. Meaning CVT. Manual transmission Nissans are still alright.
If I was looking for a sedan, this would be the only choice. Toyota nailed it, again.
Yeah, since less and less companies are making these kinds of cars, the Camry stands out even more than it used to. I think companies will realise that they are basically letting Toyota walk over them with the Camry in what they initially thought was a 'less popular segment'
Why not Rolls Royce?
@@rickygforce4217 if GM and Ford actually built reliable cars, they could still be in this segment.
@@davidp.4727 Their whole philosophy is "when it fails, drop it" instead of "when it fails, fix it".
@@davidp.4727they are totally uninterested and only want to build vehicles with INSANE profit margins.
Finally a normal looking car in 2024 and not something a try hard 40year old stuck in kindergarten drew.
Hanz
Nah that car has no identity, it doesn't evev look like it's supposed to be a Camry. Toyota designers just throws shit on the wall and hope something sticks.
@zZiL341yRj736 completely disagree. Toyota is in the middle of rolling out a new design language. Now this and the prius are the new face and going forward all Toyota are gonna look like this and it's far better than the precious generation.
The dash is way too busy with too many angles.
I would buy one and drop the 4 cyl and install the 302 hp 3.5 V6 from the Lexus.
Australian here. I drove an Australian made, 1996 XV10 "Widebody" 2.2 L 4 cyl Camry for 14 years. A car so reliable that I still see them on the road fairly regularly. I have sat in a current model XV70 Camry and as a bigger guy (6ft tall with a long torso and having put on the pounds over the years) I was surprised that despite the exterior large car dimensions that the Camry lacked head room and partly due to an overly wide centre console (between driver and passenger) and intrusive door cards, the lateral (side to side) space was lacking. I hope that have addressed these issues in the 2025 XV80 model, assuming that Australia gets it or I will have to look for a suitable SUV. My current drive is an Australian made 2011 Toyota Aurion... based on the Camry but with the 2GR-FE V6 3.5L engine.
I have a 2011 Camry SE with the wonderful 2GR-FE V6....I love that engine! Smooth, powerful, reliable, and reasonable fuel economy! It now has over 280,000 miles on it and doesn't consume oil...glorious engine! Cheers!
There are a ton of car review "duos" on RUclips, and most of them spend way too much time trying to be clever and witty... This duo takes its reviewing responsibilities more seriously and the result is much smarter, more helpful insights. Bravo, guys. I even subscribed!
I've never heard anyone call the Camry an "old man's luxury box," that was more Avalon's thing. The last-gen was pretty dynamic already.
i thought the avalon got killed
Dynamic? No
@@bradhaines3142 Avalon did get killed off, but "old man lux box," never slid to Camry.
First time I’ve ever heard someone describe the camry as dynamic
@@mr.iloveroblox2577 Christ. Obviously not as dynamic as a god**** vehicle twice its price but for the market the Camry's in, the last gen was dynamic.
Dealers will figure out how to get this to like $40k
Just like the Prius, you won’t find one for 32 thousands
You can option the XSE to like 41K MSRP.
So true. We have to come up with 5 to 8k for the South East/Gulf Coast dealer/stealership network
Greedy bastards never learn 😂
By me already have alot of added options you don't have a choice . Smh. Have to just wait out the hype for a deal
toyotas man u will always win my heart and never ever think about going to buy another car brand in my life
Finally a professional review. Thanks for not trying to be funny, telling us stories of your childhood, etc.
I love how detailed your break downs of these vehicles are from beginning of the vehicles history to the changes seen today, such informative description. Thanks. Keep up the good work guys. 👍💯
nice review, guys, and so glad you not only covered an everybody car....but that Toyota is proving they have always been right about EVs vs hybrids.
32k for that car isn't bad. Tough to not get a car like this as a commuter that also is used as a family car.
Might as well add another 5K on from the dealership
@@The_MEMEphis dealer markup?
I feel like the civic SI for 29k is a better option
@haseebali803 1.5T from Honda is not the greatest motor. My wife's CRV has one and thankfully it's been great but it seems like a lot of people are having issues with it.
@@The_MEMEphisyou can easily find Toyotas without markups.
It’s always a joy when i get this notification
I had a few gripes with previous camry:
1) awful driver's seat, felt like sitting on a wooden box
2) super strange brake pedal, mushy (but okay-ish) on low speeds, super hard on higher speeds
3) body roll in corners
4) heavy steering wheel - it's nice at high speeds and when I'm in the mood, but I don't want to sweat every time I'm parking or just trying to navigate small streets in the city in Europe, just give us a setting with comfort and sport steering response. And I've been driving 97 Nissan Primera with questionably functional power steering before, so I know what I'm taking about.
So, basically they fixed everything you had a problem with.
@@spdcrzy are you sure do they fixed the steering wheell problem because it was so heavy.
@@hb692we have a 25 Camry LE and the steering is light at low speed and heavy at high speed, so it feels nice to maneuver in a parking lot and good on the highway
YAY - button controls for most things and touch screen if you want/need. Good to "hear" that you can get one that doesn't have too much road noise as well - that's so tiring on a road trip. great vid as usual
Toyota hitting some home runs lately.
No they haven’t. All of them have been swings and misses
@@naveenthemachinecry more😂😂
have you heard about the recalls and the fbi investigation? lol
With what? Just curious…
The new Tundras are having 100,000 engines replaced plus there are many other issues with the truck.
Tacoma 2024 are having failing transmissions.
This is so much better than Accord now, Honda made a big step back imo. Good job from toyota
Honda's aversion to putting AWD in sedans outside of the TLX continues to baffle me
@@InvictusRed1911 the toyota hybrid AWD system is very meh .
@@BassRacerx Anything hybrid is cursed already.
@@InvictusRed1911 SH-AWD remains the trade-up card they withhold from Hondas (except Pilot) to upsell you to Acura.
@@BassRacerx the new ones are great, they have torque vectoring so I just slow down before corners and floor it when I turn, no under/oversteering at all. No idea why nobody talks about it. 60 lb ft of torque is plenty enough, you can fishtail easily when doing left turns in the snow.
14:20 Speaking the f’n truth!!! Fantastic review and great job keeping things in perspective. This car is on our short list to test drive…the best parts of the old Camry and the Accord. Sign us up!
I’m not the demographic for this car and won’t be buying one, but MAN is it nice to see a smaller, integrated screen in a new vehicle. Also, major bonus points for no fake shifts under wide open throttle.
I never thought I’d be excited for a new Camry (or Prius) but here we are! 😃
Appreciate your guys honest reviews. There's not sugar coating compared to most other reviewers. Need a 600 mile per week commuter car but don't need the space of a Camry/Accord.
corolla then
Toyota Corolla, Mazda 3, Lexus UX etc.
Prius
You must be young. I, too, have a small fun sports car, but for that grinding daily work commute or that long road trip, nothing beats a long wheelbase, quiet ride, listening to a good after market stereo system in a sedan that actually allows a driver to relax and enjoy the drive, while getting virtually the same gas mileage as that buzzy Corolla box.
mate. the the only smaller car that uses less fuel than the carmy, and which is sold in the US, is the prius. everysthing else uses the same amount of fuel while having less space.
so just get the camry or a prius
I personally like Toyota's Hybrid platforms.
They are smooth at disengaging and engaging. Plus they deliver wonderful fuel economy. I hope to get into one of these and see how well they drive.
Jack and Dr.Goose. I was just going to order a 2024 Camry. I think I’ll be wise to wait until this hits dealers lots. Still driving my 2004 with 300k miles ! 😂
In high school/college I had a ‘91 Camry that I abused but it lasted 311k miles. Now I am 40 and I miss that car. Seeing this video makes me feel like this a car that will fit my life so well.
If I could get my wife, who only likes and drives appliances, to get out of her CUV mindset, I’d be all over buying one of these as our next car.
You could just grow a pair of balls and buy one anyway.
Maybe your wife's boyfriend can buy you one.
💀
@@aygwm you’re single, never kissed a girl, and live in your mom’s basement, we get it.
Unfortunately a lot of women insist on only driving huge SUVs, I wonder if they're overcompensating for something
So I purchased this car 6 hours ago, but an XLE in Reservoir Blue like the tester in this video. I really like it, Toyota did a terrific job! The dealer had 4 Camrys and they were selling fast. I had to pull the trigger quick or wait 2 weeks longer. I was able to negotiate off the $1495.00 addendum and buy the car for $37,210.00 versus the $39,008. The gas mileage is incredible. The Camry drives so smoothly, too, and the acceleration is punchy! Seat comfort is important and these seats are great, and lumbar is fantastic.
Big congratulations! I want an XLE as well with all the options other than all wheel drive
I bought an SE for 33k out the door. Is that good?
I own a 2021 Camry XSE 2.5L I4 FWD. Prior to that I owned a VW Golf R, a Mustang GT, and a Miata. I surprisingly really enjoy the Camry. It's certainly not a sports car, but I knew that going in. I've driven the Camry numerous times between Twin Falls, Id. and SoCal, getting 40mpg down Hwy 93/I-15. It's a great long distance road trip car.
Wow, that’s cool! 40mpg at what speed? 70mph?
@@8877Lego Appx. 70mph on I-15 in Ca. and Nevada and the speed varies on Hwy 93 in Nevada. Mostly 70mph with 25mph in the small towns.
Before switching to Tesla, Toyota was the only brand I owned. Never had any issues. Best reliability for the money.
Good to see Mr. Toyoda is sticking to the "no more boring cars" pledge.
Another great review as always. I really like that you guys really put a lot of thoughts in what you say.
The screen in the dashboard actually looks good unlike most vehicles nowadays
This is the most excited I’ve seen mark in a while. Maybe he’s recovering from the menopause!
REALLY apapreciate you guys reviewing this car. When I need a new car in 1-2 years, it'll be Accord vs Camry for me, and will refrence this video.
Would love a proper shoot out of the two in the future for us normal people that need a normal car to keep for 15+ years.
Most people driving SUVs would be better off in a sedan like this. Mileage, handling, comfort, value.
I was waiting for you guys to review it!
This puts the Honda Accord in the coffin. You can't beat this value. 29k for the BEST HYBRID SYSTEM in one of the BEST sedans vs honda's 33k...is hard competition.
A few grand isn’t going to make a difference. Get the car you want. These hybrids are good on paper but they’re going to cost more and more in maintenance long term.
@@markm0000nay sayers have been claiming hybrids will be expensive to service since they were introduced. But - at least with Toyota products - that simply has never happened.
Toyota hybrids been mainstream products since at least 2007. They have sterling reputations for reliability and low cost of ownership, period.
@@markm0000more maintenance in the long term?
This has been the situation between the Accord and Camry since the 80s. The hell you talking about?😂
It never fails. 13 year old Camry fan boys in the comments. Both are great products. Camry people will buy the Camry and Accord people will buy the Accord. It’s always been this way.
I love the commentary from two obvious car enthusiasts! I have a 2015 Camry SE, recently fitted with Avid GT tread at all corners. I feel like I’m driving my old MR2 again! My car buying days are over but will always recommend a Camry with a sport tuned suspension for ANYONE who simply loves having the unadulterated fun of driving a car…and not getting caught by the men in blue. Enjoy!
excellent car and if i was in the market this would be my choice. Toyota is king of reliability. i’m the 2nd owner of a 2002 Lexus ES300 with “only” 181k miles and it has another 181k miles in it. best car i’ve ever owned
0W-8 oil. That is wild
No way I'm using 0W-8 oil.
That’s apple juice
@@FlexSZN23man.. I spit my drink out reading this!
Soon we'll have 0w-0.
@@lotsofcurveslover
The best gas mileage is when you're engine blows up. Who pays for that?
Rip 2gr you had a great run !
The 2GR in my 2019 GS is smooth as silk and lives to rev. It'll outlast all these new hybrid powertrains.
@@little123456788definitely won’t
RIP V6 camry 🫡 you will be missed
Nobody purchased a Camry for the v6, it’s always been about mpg and reliability. If you wanted the v6 then you would buy an Avalon or Lexus
@@chuckthetrooper while you aren't wrong I actually enjoyed the vehicle myself, access to a 2GR FKS In the Camry chassis, what more did I need. The reason I didn't go with Lexus or the Avalon was the cost.
@@chuckthetrooperThey absolutely did
You guys give the best reviews that I’ve seen on the net!!
Great review. I love my gen 4 Avalon V6 and I am glad they still put R&D time and money into their sedans. I'm also glad they improved the dynamics and inputs, because the Avalon was always a boat.
Back headrests should retract when no passengers are in the car so you can see out the back window.
Hitting that paddle shifter and getting the "gear" to change 3.5 seconds later... amazing!
The paddle shifter was an idea from the Marking dept. 😂
Nothing like paddle shifting your 1 gear car 😊
I'll miss the legendary V6 options...
probly still in lexus
Yeah man, that was a great era, the RAV4 with a V6 was also a sleeper when it was available.
@@bcab7955 the 07 or 08 rav4 v6 sport was one of the most surprisingly awesome cars I ever got a chance to drive.
They still have the V6, however with that turbo and hybrid mix. It probably wouldn't fit under the hood.
@@marcusvisionIf you mean the engine still exists, yes. But not in the Camry, which was the point.
Bought an '02 w/190K mi. 4yrs ago, never broke down, or gave me a single problem. Best car I've ever owned. Still drives like new, maintenance is cheap & easy. Still gets great MPG.
Great job Toyota! Love to see the competition between accord and camry still works for the customers. Better products all around. My favorite feature I can see throughout the video? The interior roof! No none sense and lots of room!
Looking forward to a new ES300h on this platform.
top trim camry is loq mpg because of quieting materials. camry maybe pretty much a cheaper lexus es, maybe not as good handlign , nto as quiet, but more than enough
The Lexus ES version of this chassis is going to be a serious winner I bet. I will watch this chassis very closely to potentially replace my 2015 toyota hybrid.
That's a bit of a misnomer, based on the mistaken impression that the ES is "based on the Camry." The new Camry is a version of the same platform that the current ES and old Camry are based on, as well as the Corolla and Prius. The next ES will be its own iteration, as the current one is now.
@@tonysterbenc thanks for the quality response Tony. Cheers buddy
@@alaskanassassin7332 My pleasure. Correcting myself a bit, Mark notes elsewhere in the comments that this is based on the chassis update done for the Crown, and you certainly could expect those same tweaks to show up in the next ES in some form. Cheers back at you.
The engine droning on and on would drive me crazy
This is what I don't like about CVTs. The droning of the engine, no shifting... I prefer transmissions with multiple forward gears to shift. The gearshifts are a big part of the car experience for me, and without that or the engine sound, cars won't feel the same for car guys like myself 😢
@@ZeldaACFan17bUt tHe eCVt hAs ShIft pOinTs
Haven't seen a review in a while. SavageGeese is blowing up. Love to see it.
would be great from now on to see a section in each video for how much of your data the manufacturer will be collecting and selling. Also how the collect it and what types and if the system can be refused fully or be defeated at all. - going forward many buyers considering a “new” car (new models going back to about 2017) are going to be searching for this information and it’d be great if you guys started doing it first ✅ - it may also begin holding manufacturers feet to a fire on how far to implement such data collection or if they should even be doing it on certain models or even at all ~ thanx as always for your great work and videos ✨👏🏽
I love seeing topher name drops. you and topher, along with tedward, are my favs. I'd love to see a true superband review with the three of you. :) One can hope!
If you want a sedan as a daily driver and aren't interested in that 10/10s that enthusiast products give, this is a hard one to beat.
People haven't caught on that sedans are the sleeper sports cars 2024.
Toyota has Done a FANTASTIC job with Camry Hybrid.
HYBRID is the FUTURE.
borrowed this car today, took my two favorite cambered corners at 65 and 75 mph, and top speed pulled easily to 108 before running out of road. no heavy saloon is a sports car with longer braking points, but can win races on the street for a dose of adrenaline
This is a very impressive car. Never considered a Camry before- but now, the value proposition is really compelling. It’s on this shoppers list 👍
This car should be a Car and Driver 2025 10 Best
Car and Driver? They're still a going concern?
@@bassandtrebleclef Down to bi-monthly (6 per year) now, but still kicking. The Accord won't get displaced by this Camry. I might win an initial comparison but by next years 10Best the ether will wear off.
japanwatchconnection Seriously, this same baseless negative "Mine's bigger" drivel over and over on every Toyota and Lexus thread for literally years on end. What's your problem? Considered counseling? Maybe change your outlook by volunteering to rewallpaper your mom's basement?
I’ll stick with my Mazda 3, but this is a nice car also ;)
I’m still surprised how in “2024”for 32 thousand dollars,as a mid sized sedan Toyota can not add more sound deadening material to lower road and tire noise.
They mentioned that the higher trims add more. Naturally, the costlier ES adds more still. Affordable pricing on a car stuffed full of advanced engineering has to come out of somewhere. As someone once said about the mid-era Prius, "It's a $25,000 car that drives like a car with a $30,000 car's powertrain and a $20,000 car's interior."
I'm so glad hybrids are now catching on! It's the best of both worlds in terms of price to eco friendliness!
Sincerely, a proud owner of an 07' Civic Hybrid.
This thing has almost Lexus-like build quality. The Kentucky plant really knows what they’re doing. What a great car. I can’t wait to get one.
Did I read correctly that the engine oil is now a 0W-8 weight? Might as well piss in there and it will probably offer as much protection.
soon we'll just be adding oil additives to some distilled water lol
I have a 24 XSE V6…. And I purposely bought it for the V6 and 8 speed automatic. I get 34-35 on the highway and it’s actually pretty damn fast for a Camry. I’m just glad I got the last of the V6….
Same here. 2024 XSE V6.
With the crown signia, they even offer this as a wagon albeit at a much larger price. Interested in both!!
Of course, bigger car and lower mpg
The design is really tasteful. I would buy this. Cool colors too.
Great vid guys! Proof that the sedan isn't dead yet & that a Camry doesn't have to be dullsville. 😎👍
The only thing missing is a station wagon version. I can dream…
I would never buy this but I still like watching your videos.
Low fi
Can't wait to go to my local Toyota dealer and negotiate the $5-8K over MSRP. Good times!!!
I absolutely LOVE❤ my 2020 camry le hybrid....bought it brand new with 30 miles on the odometer....it now has 116,000 miles and had to replace 1 wheel bearing at 100,000 thus far. Just change the oil and air filter every 5k miles and new tires when needed. 👍 Toyota.....doin it right.
Looks like the Camry jumped to the top of my 'next car I'm going to get' list
Camry pricing proves that Honda is overcharging for the Civic.