One huge problem with drug recovery is that most of these people have come in contact with law enforcement many have records and that keeps them from being able to find legitimate jobs when they try to change their lives. This inability to earn legitamate income and find housing keeps them on the street and depressed which in turn makes them turn back to the drug use. We need to remove the stigma from peoples past so they can change their future.
Don`t steal.If you have to steal to support your habit you have to think long and hard because it can ruin your whole life.I was a heroin addict for 10 years and held full time employment the whole time. Near the end I was almost broke.I took a two month leave of absence from my job,went through the pain of withdrawal. Went back to work but it took three years to feel halfway normal.( Insomnia) Never ever do heroin, it`s so seductive.
That's a stupid excuse. I was in trouble with the law the entire time I was young, and NEVER had a problem finding a job. These people do not want to work, that's why they have no jobs. I cleaned up my life, learned a trade, applied with government for federal clearance and now have a six figure income. Get your facts straight. A lot of these people don't want help and NOBODY can help them other than themselves.
@@pointnIaugh agree to disagree. I got clean and could not find a job due to my record. Where I live though, if you stay out of trouble long enough, your record gets swiped. Once my record was swiped I had no problem finding work, but getting work before then was almost impossible.
We've been talking at least since the 80's about how laws that are draconian in their punitive nature do not help anyone overcome addiction. The war on drugs is a war on people. But hey those private prisons have to stay full somehow!
No way, there’s soooo many programs to help people integrate back into society. Especially in Portland. There are more resources for the homeless than ever before. These people are addicts and/or crazies who REFUSE treatment and CHOOSE to live on the street because they are allowed to.
So the meth was the best decision..? Or joining the air force..? Or leaving..?😉 Sorry, seriously I'm curious if you personally feel that meth influenced your mindset in such a way as to make joining the USAF a more likely choice, or made it more appealing..?
Psilocybin saved my life . I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September . I have zero cravings . This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment .
Psilocybin containing mushrooms helped me. They drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit
Please does anyone know where I can get them ? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels , I would love to try shrooms
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
I’m not proud of it but I write this in hopes that it helps someone out there. 23 years ago when I was 19 in 1998, I did meth that was “dirty”. Cheap quality. But the point is that I experienced extreme psychosis that basically made me a zombie for 10 years. The combination of meth and my obsessive compulsive issues were a terrible combination and I was lost in the head, unable to be myself of let go of OCD habits that left a negative mentality in me for those years. By the Grace of God He saved me and restored me, but the experience will stay with me for my life and the lives of my loved ones. I just want to discourage anyone from meth or any drug for that matter. There is no better high than being successful in life and your loved ones happy for you and at peace. Don’t chase more than the good life that God has already given you. Every high has a low, and you have to come down and suffer some time. May God Bless us all.
James, find Dr. Gabor Mate' s book, "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts", he suffers from OCD & treats addicts. I've been clean 20 years but this book still helped me grow. Best to all who suffer 💙
My step dad died of a meth overdose back in 2018. Before that he was living on the streets of Portland due to his heroine/meth addiction. When we tried to tell him to come home he said that her preferred to live on the streets. He was getting checks for 5150... it was really sad to watch him deteriorate over the years. This drug sucks and the government should do more to stop this crap. I live in California and can't even go to the store without seeing someone freaking out acting erratic from meth psychosis. I was driving one night and there was a lady slithering on the curb on her belly like a snake... scary!! Another time there was a man in a dark parking lot just ramming shopping carts into the wall over and over again laughing like a manic. I don't care what anyone says but I believe that drug opens you up to demons.
We all allowed the huge corperations to become untouchable monopolies. And a considerable part of those monopolies are pharmaceutical companies. Pharmaceutical companies make money selling drugs. Noone has more money than Americans.
problem is people have no self control. There are High Profile users who work everyday, don’t steal and raise their children. People who let drugs control them are lacking will power or just looking for an excuse. I see it daily in the small towns here in the south. It’s destroyed so many towns and communities but it’s a supply and demand problem. Also research how many users were once on ADHD/ADD medicines such as Ritalin or adderall. They did a study and found once teens were kicked off parents insurance for reaching the age limit (technically not teens anymore) they resorted to using Meth. It gives them the same focus and calming effects as prescribed medicines. For non Adhd patients, they take Ritalin or adderall they are sped up and have the same effect as meth would. Your doctors and teachers are responsible for the meth epidemic. They choose which kids are considered suffering from Adhd or add when it is solely hyper kids. kids with natural energy. the meds they prescribed just zombified the children.
The politicians don't give a flying fuck about the American people c'mon now we're nothing but commodities used as pawns in their fucked up game nothing more
The thing is that in order to help, they need to stop putting addicts in the prison system (where they’ll just network and hook back up on the outside). They need to be put into rehab programs like these guys. It’s way better for the community to lift people up, rather than lock them up with violent criminals.
@@julianhyde1645 exactly by treating addicts like criminals and not what they truly are which are vulnerable and emotional adults usually with resolved traumas or deep mental scarring deserve to be treated like any other sick individual, once you become addicted you cannot just stop taking your substance cold turkey they need to ween off slowly and by just throwing these people in jail cells it’s only causing more of a polarity between police and civilians by making drug abuse a moral issue when it’s really a public health issue.
And not being around it is not either. Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't work and will always back fire. And not that it is, but my facial ticks and shit stayed with me over a year after getting sober. Stay in your lane and let people heal the way that works for them. God forbid we actually lift each other up these days, holy hell... May you find the peace in yourself that you can't stand to see in anyone else🕉
That's true but smoking meth can cause a brief peak of euphoria that only lasts a few seconds. The temptation to smoke more to get back to that ultra high peak usually causes the user to do even more
Not true anymore. They use less Sudafed and shittier chemicals that are easier to find. The dope is not the same as it was in the early 2000's. I would only sleep twice a month back then and now I could go right to sleep after smoking a bowl, doing a line and an hour later doing a shot (iv) shit is garbage now. That's the only way to fight this drug epidemic is by reducing the power the drug gives. If you boost the power and make it great again more people will pick it up and use. I don't use anymore
How about respect someone for not being a scumbag in the first place? I was a junky for decades and I don't feel I deserve an award for stopping. I did it because being dope sick really sucks
@@ryanhom3006 I too was a junkie for decades and yeah, I was a peice of shit, but the fact still remains that less than 1% of dope users ever truly kick it, I'd say we earned a little recognition there, not to mention our truly valuable insight into society's darkest and scariest(by normal people's standards) places. Don't sell yourself short bro or you'll wind right back up in the hotseat again! Also, that attitude doesn't inspire other users to quit...
I have been through drug induced psychosis. I am 6+ years clean from drugs, quit nicotene, and alcohol. It took me going to jail to get through the withdrawls from the drugs but it's all about your mindset because if you can make it through then you can be free for the rest of your life.
@@mikeheaton8424 Addiction is not a choice people have a chemical problem in their brain The first time using is a choice after that for an addict it is not a choice that’s why you have people that can use recreationally and you have people that are addicts
I got some accurate factual news for you. Portlands drug problem goes back much further than 10 years... The psychosis is only increasing with the influx of Prope Dope...
@@herbhungry7565 I don't doubt that it does. I was saying people in Portland were nuts BEFORE drugs. Drugs are just making the issue worse. Read more carefully.
Actually, people in Portland have been more aware and active than most other oblivious cities in this country as far back as I can remember (25-30 years ago). It's no surprise that these sensitive, aware people go looking for ways to numb their senses.
@@IndyRockStar not at all, and I'm not a liberal either. I have a lot of respect for people willing to go against the grain of society to stand up for what they believe. 🙏 I did, however, spend a summer there doing landscaping way back in like 1995 or so.
I am so incredibly blessed (and lucky), that I was able to escape a 15 year meth addiction. The big problem for me is that it was manageable and I was amazingly functional at my work and home life and I also managed to avoid any sort of legal consequences. Unfortunately, what meth did do was destroy my soul and my self respect. I thoroughly despise that person that I was and now it's a lifetime of recovery. I am confident I will not use meth again, but the spiritual and psychological damage is real and I will always have to struggle with the shadow of that "other guy", that still exists even without the meth.
Anybody with a loved one flipped out, don't just give up on em. You can pull em back out even though they seem to far gone. Don't think you can't do it. I recently went as far as signing everything I own over to my wife, prepared for a life of the unknown..Prison, life or death for my son. Yup, I know he made a bad choice ta fuck around but I know he didn't choose to flip out. I honestly didn't know if he'd get out of the flip out but I chased him down day and night for 3 months. Getting into it with law and street folk but eventually! Locked him down for about a month. 24/7 monitoring. No phones no self time for him. No visitors or nothing. Hes 100% now. Don't give up on your loved ones. If they're not themselves, can we kick em to the curb? I couldn't. I'd do life for my kid. Thank God I made that choice. Take care of community to. An individual doesn't have to do it all by themselves. Even helping somebody who is trying to save somebody works big fuckin miracles.
Real talk you're a real one,sounds like you got your priorities in check,much respect! My kids mean more to me than my own life,I will do whatever they need.
My family kicked me out over weed end of the day you just gotta accept anyone who does this simply doesnt love their people and was looking for the first excuse to give up
@@gokushkameha-ha-ha9344 I'm not sure where you live but be careful smokin bud. Back in the day, our parents would add to the hype of drugs being bad, including smoke. You may already know this but as today goes, alot of the cheaper shit is getting rolled in all kinds of shit. Its flippin fools out, even first timers. If you've got that going on where you're at, it catches up. The bud ain't just bud in some cases anymore and thats lame. I know some people like ta fuck around with other shit to but to be honest, we've all already heard the song and seen the dance from both sides of the spectrum. Those that use and those that don't. In you're family situation, I can't call it. Takes you and them being 100% honest to yourselves. I use to fuck around with anything under the rainbow but what came first was how I treated those around me. I didn't want anybody fucking with my life but at the same time, I didn't wanna fuck up anybody elses. When I was real with myself is when I stopped fucking around. When were high! Were fucked up! Good shit right? At that same time though, we can't see everything for how it is, were different. In my case as a parent now, I booted my son twice, he was using and was impacting the whole house negatively. He had ta go. He called it one day and was like pops, I'm done...I wanna get right. I was like cool.....I got you. He detoxed hard as fuck 2 times. He did it. I just supported him. This last time, he just wanted ta blaze it. He got ahold of some danky shit that had been put together with some other shit and just flipped out. Gone...he had always been honest about what he was doing so I didn't trip. I knew he was being honest this time around. He was jacked up though. Couldn't just be bud right? So I did like i knew how ta do. Followed homeboy around town. Got all his spots on lock and noticed this bud was wack....but he wanted that shit. So, with my past as a youngster I was like fuckit, rolled up, walked in onea the pads saling this bud right, got busy quick like and took dudes shit. Checked it out and this fool was droppin all kinds of shit in this bud. He was crying when he told me and said a gang of people is doing like that. I told my son, look. These foo's are lacing this shit sick like, did you know? He was like, no pops but lemmie get that!...I was like son,,,,you trippin... For the first time ever, my kid got crazy and was flippin out. We never got into it. Never. Hes onea the dopest and flyest kids out there. He'd never roll like that! That shit killed but right away, I seen he was done. He lost it. I had no choice cuz although he chose to smoke bud, he didn't chose all that other shit. Wasn't just him either. Kids and adults around here was dropping like flies. Thats not cool. So, we did that damn thing right, with all kinda fellas, streets and some other shit. All bad. It saved his life and pretty recent he came back all the way. Ended up he wanted ta get at dudes that did it but check it. Its a nation wide thing. Were here in Cali, I got boys all over and some have gone through same shit. All within months apart. Once a kid is fuckin with anything and the parents feel they've lost thier son, its crazy...some just bone out on the kid cuz fuck it, it ain't thier kid nomore. Others have no clue and get scared then say fuck it. Very few have the life experiences to be able to go kick doors in. Smash on foo's ta get em ta talk then take a couple moths off ta get em right. Then the system! They want motherfuckers on anything, they don't care. I ain't trying ta preach foo but really take a look at everything. If you can't hide the bud smokin from your family then maybe something that comes with it is the issue. Could be as simple as a no tolerance on your families side which I would agree with as long as you're sound body, mind and sole. If you get some bad shit and flip out! Then I'd hope they'd go ta bat for you. Truth, thats it. If you're blazin is worth the loss,,,,question that stuff..... Be fuckin safe Gokush.
@@bassman4201000 And you're probably just fine. In some cases that is for the better. Part of my "Christian" family members were more like the Manson family. All hyped up on that judgement juice. Its all good though. Once I realized everybody else is simply a person like I am, I was good ta go. Just did life...
to want better, they have to first believe that it is possible. most addicts treat their addiction like it's the plague - something to be ashamed of - like they aren't completely human. most of them get very good at hiding it. I bet you know some of them and don't even know it.
Plain and simple... Nothing is plain and simple. One person can want to succeed and do so, it has little relevance to every individual situation of human suffering. Our world is full of temptation, the kinds of things that fire up dopamine... Like close friendships use to do.
I'm seeing a lot of compassion on here from folks who've never been addicted. As an addict in recovery that's really heart warming. It's easy to not feel compassion for the people breaking into your cars at night and talking with train cars as they scream by. It's a living, waking nightmare . And with this dope they are talking about , the nightmare comes faster , stays longer , and hits harder.....untill it kills you. Thank you for your heart Nobody wants to be this way
Meth really is the perfect metaphor for the devil in starting out getting you addicted as the lucifer angel of light compound and insidiously degrades your executive function and memory till you lose everything and ultimately your life. Thankfully I only dabbled with meth fewer than 10 times but I really didn't enjoy it after the first 5 hours it required lots of downers to mellow out the crash. But I can see how people get hooked so easily for 1. Chasing the high, and 2. Absolve themselves of the low after the high wears off. Its a boom and bust cycle thats easy to get caught up in.
It always seemed to me that addiction is it's own punishment. People engage in all kinds of self destructive behavior. Most of them don't get persecuted and jailed for it. They get help and compassion. We should be able to offer the same to drug addicts.
i had a guy randomly walk up and ask me if i knew where i could find this type of stuff.blew my mind that ppl are so desperate that theyd approach a complete stranger not knowing who they are or what there capable of.its sad really
Maybe dont legalize hard drugs then whine about the problems this caused..you created the DAMN problem if we legalize hard drugs no one will use them. ?????????
@@johntaranto29 Additionally, if it's the old biker meth, it's D-L meth rather than the D-meth made from pseudoephedrine, meaning it should be a bit speedier but give less of a high.
So the drug war was working? Is that what you’re saying? Institutionalizing people and giving them criminal records works better? And I don’t think Portland actually legalize meth, they decriminalized it to where there’s no criminal charges. Which is a step in the right direction. What they have is a human problem, not a meth problem
Well doctors are prescribing adderall to just about anyone including children... Adderall is amphetamine and meth is methamphetamine... They try to say young kids energy is just ADHD when all young animals have alot of energy, look at puppies they never stop moving or any other animal
Old school meth was like strong diet pills and you could actually get stuff done. Performance enhancing. Today's meth you can't concentrate long enough to write your name
Doesn't it just come down to dosage? When I was using I did small bumps and I could function fine, then one night I seen some other people doing it and they were doing lines 20x the size of mine and I was like ok I get how you are all so fucked up now.
i used meth briefly, only eating it tho i tried snorting it and smoked it years later briefly, in 1971. It was like super-adderall and had a real clean high and made a person feel cheerful and wide awake etcetera. Recently, I was foolish enough to eat some of the "crystal" or "ice" that is around here nowadays. All it di was make me crazy and there was no pleasure. Maybe it is the L instead of the D version, see Sam Quinnes article at The Atlantic for more info there. I don't know. I'm glad I didn't like this new stuff. To me it was nothing like the speed I knew from the 70s and from the 90s or so, which was the last time i had tried it before last week. This new meth seems to be pure insanity in a bottle and just a trip to psychosis, very different and unpleasant compared to what I thought it would be.
@@Esketh19 Dosage is certainly important, and someone who goes psycho on a larger dose might get a therapeutic benefit from a smaller dose, I don't know. Sleep deprivation is of course a major factor, that and malnutrition. And God help the people using the needle. It tears a human being apart yet they can't stop without help and even then, well to me the Higher Power must be sought just as 12 step programs tell us, and I believe it.
Im my 20s I took whatever was put in front of me. Thank God no one put meth or heroin before me. I lost a dear girlfriend to meth. I got sober and clean and she was not able to. I think of her often. I thank God every day for my sobriety - its now 42 years
My sister has been on it for over a year now I finally had to separate myself from her the main thing that always comes to mind when she acts crazy is the devil it reminds me of pure evil
Those three men--Kenneth, Rick, Eddie--are fantastic examples of people who managed somehow to walk away from the hellish enslavement of addiction, they are survivors of the nightmare. Big hugs guys, not just for your strength in getting out of that life but also for your willingness to share your stories. Blessings to them and to all others who have walked their path.
@@user-bk3kv8sl9z dude for real. I’m so tired of these ignorant narratives about visibly irresponsible drug users. Back when I used to slang I’d sell to lawyers, doctors, moms, construction foremen, you name it. These people legitimately think hard drugs are mind control devices that create mindless automatons.
@CBEdits man, you just like to make up facts and pull them out of your ass don't you. you have a rationalization for everything yet wonder why no one agrees with you or likes you. yah i don't give a shit
@@mercutiomurphy2743 your mad because you believe that bullshit and feel like you accomplished something and now you're but hurt it shows considering dude just stated facts and you started hurling insults like a little girl
10 months sober my hats off to these guys. I moved states twice been through multiple treatment programs. I'm in a place now where it's not as accessible. Don't know what I'd do in Portland if it was all around me.
@@smokingjoe9864 respect the honesty but I'm sure it would slow you down a bit at least.. ? At least you'd have to have your shit together enough to make the trip.
I was on H for 14 years ..lived on the streets in big cities in Germany..(Frankfurt, hamburg,berlin,kassel ..now cologne ) But since 4 years I am "clean" [methadone from 120mg to now 7mg and soon 0] and I live in a big city next to a scene where I could get almost anything I want .. I guess ..if you have purpose in live and someone who loves you ..thats no problem at all ..
I am a first responder and this problem is huge and growing. It is a multi faceted problem of societal decay,loss of morality and loss of recognition of the importance of lives. Society is unravelling not only in Portland but in the US.There are truly no simple answers...
Maybe we dont like your morals. Some people like to get high. The city needs to accommodate these citizens. Bring back the red light districts. Open up the flop houses, drug dens, and brothels for people to stay at. Do gooders want to force people to live their God fearing ways. Worse than the Taliban.
@@smokingjoe9864 drugs are illegal. As long as meth is illegal, it's not gonna happen. People just don't get high once in awhile. People can't handle it, commit crimes to support their habits. I don't see someone arguing with pretend people getting and keeping a job.
@@maggie0285 I have been getting high since 1979. I work. Millions get high and work. I will tell you....your war on drugs - drug testing, that still goes on today, isn't fair and only makes it harder to get a job. We would work 12 hour shifts of hard labor and do lines on our break. Best workers you had. Now they faint if you pop open a beer at work. A man was judged by the size of the bar in his office. Big boss, big bar, office clerk, flask in the drawer. Sissified the country.
I hate this drug with a passion. My ex used to fly into blind rages when he used meth, and one time tried to light me on fire. If anyone reading this is currently using I'm begging you to go get help. It will destroy you and take everyone you love down with you.
I grew up in a small town in Wisconsin (early 2000's). I was 13 and it was honestly hard to find a bag of weed. Plenty of pills though.. Once the DEA started their "war on drugs" nobody had their prescriptions, and from that moment I was introduced to heroin and so was everyone else. Everyone was high on heroin. Some friends and family died or was in prison faster than you could imagine. Nowadays when I pass through my old neighborhood you see folks tweaking just about everywhere. Meth is so bad here that ppl sell the shit for $40 a ball, sometimes I get it for free. I am very worried for what my future holds at this moment. It's so hard.
@illicitlitmisfit I hear you and I really appreciate the concerns. I wish it was as easy to get out. No matter where I go it follows and eventually finds me. I just try to stay healthy and keep my use to a minimum but you know how that goes. God bless, you're a good old soul.
Yeah bro I've never done meth but LSD addiction is real and I was addicted to LSD and singing on acid. When you start going into a different world you are actually there the mind can only say this is real people think "hallucinations" are not real but they are simply not in this reality. So it's real. I hate how people say you cannot get addicted to LSD.
@@johngumbs2111 well my psychosis was more spiritual than most others. I used a little different, instead of staying up a week stealing, I'd be up a week reading and learning different religious and occult beliefs. Was still crazy though, I'll try to keep as short as possible. But lasted about three years. Started with seeing a vision, just a flash. Then I did see a shadow being, not in the corner of my eye but I seen it at a distance and it walked toward me. Then later I had an extreme energy come over my body(wasn't high at this time), and something communicated with me. Didn't hear voices but there was a clear communication. It was about finding God. Then meth even fueled it more. About a year later around Christmas time I ended up knowing I was God. Seen it written in the air in front of me. Even hung myself thinking I was dying for the better of others. Almost felt like a test. Not long after that I became sober, maybe a few months. So mine felt like a spiritual awakening to me but others perceived at as psychosis. It's hard to explain how real it is.
Never do recreational drugs. Everyone I know who has, is either dead, or living a miserable, dead-end life. I don't know a single person in 53 years who managed to break out of that mold, until they quit drugs, got clean. Never start. If you have started, please get help to get off.
Psychedelics have the potential to positively impact your entire life. Weed is useful for entertainment purposes and isn’t terribly addictive unless you use it everyday for months or years without sober time. Alcohol can be socially beneficial and used without any problem until you use it daily as well. Most drugs are fine if you just don’t make a habit out of it. Psychedelics will kick your ass if abused and are just different ( less of a drug, more of a key to an ignored aspect of your mind and reality)
@@jjhack3r Yeah except alcohol is not fine it destroys everything in your body. Cannabis is not just for fun, it is medical food, you eat it raw to heal. The best thing to be social is to have a good balance of nutrition, so that everything works as it should.
@@noneyadamnbusiness33 Sure sounds to me like they were using before decriminalization and went clean after decriminalization(or around that time period). Is your argument that if only they had gone to prison, at an early age, their lives would have been much better? After all being surrounded by all of the wisdom sharing, kind, free love types in prison turns around so many lives. We've built amazing rehabilitation centers in american prisons. They help give people a purpose and they come out with skills ready to work and contribute to the community. The community, seeing they are out of prison and therefore must be rehabilitated, do not hold their sentence against them and are quick to give them gainful employment and housing. Right^^^^???? No, the exact opposite is much more true, is it not? We should be very wary of sending people to prison for the first time unless they are repeatedly proving themselves to be a lost cause or have committed violent crimes against others. In either case their danger to society outweighs the gravity of sending them to prison where they will be treated like animals and surrounded by low iq brutes who will likely try to victimize them.
It's a sad fact to face, but prohibition doesn't teach you how to get sober. You have to be free to find out for yourself. Otherwise addiction will eventually find you unprepared.
@@brittaolson6550 also more unpredictable and deadly. If health was a concern prohibition would apply smoking. If public safety was, it would be alcohol before drugs. I don't know why they wanna fight the same battle again and again.
Lol ether, meth, lsd, heroin, mescaline, dmt, etc etc and many many many other drugs were synthesized by end of ww2. There isn’t really any new drugs just new analogues. Look up Alexander shulgin
I tried meth once and that stuff is not addictive. It just makes you anxious, jittery and where you can't go to sleep. I will never try it again. I never got any euphoria from it, just pure anxiety.
Hate to break it to you....but no substance is addictive after just one or 2 uses. Now if you were to use it for 2 weeks straight, you may become addicted Cause it’s a simple fact, it is addictive. It changes your brain chemistry, releases dopamine to such an extreme level that you brain becomes dependant on that release in order to feel “good”
Wow I guess your opinion is all the evidence you need. Im sure you are much more informed than all the medical professionals that call meth a VERY addictive drug.
I had a huge meth addiction 5 years ago, now I get high about every 3 to 6 months, I went to Portland and got high off meth, it made me talk uncontrollably, really strange crap there
yeah. doesn't sound like "extremely pure" meth. If it was pure then this would not be happening. It's quite easy to titrate when smoking, so if it is more pure then people just smoke less and save money. Something wrong with this reporting. Plus the stuff in the 90s and early 2000s that was made from psuedo (before it was controlled) was the good stuff.The everything in the last 10 years at least has been garbage unless you have a really good connect. Also that one guy said it used to be that a bag would last you 4-5 days now it's 4-5 hours, Since he was a recent user he would know. That is the opposite of "more pure". Meth isn't all too dissimilar to the amphetamine salts they give little kids with adhd. Both are neurotoxic and have the same effects. Meth just lasts longer.But that's not the narrative they want to push. But this is the result of banning and demonizing certain drugs. People are the same for 100,000s year and more. Seeking mind altering substances is part of our DNA If you try to forcibly prevent that behavior it's just going to come out in an even more desperate and dangerous way. Add to that the fact that the street makers have to alter the process to produce an inferior and more dangerous product just compounds the problem. All my life they been talking about getting tough on drugs and showing off the huge busts and where has it got us? We are worse now than ever. Time for a radically new approach based on acceptance and compassion and not prohibition and demonization + incarceration. If you have a problem with drugs being made legal for adult usage then you are the problem.
@@Elijah8890 cant just say its legal without completely rethinking how we treat drug users. Look how they treat heroin addicts in the Netherlands. That’s a well thought out top down solution that treats users like people that need help with the ultimate goal of welcoming the back into society. It invokes many agencies all acting cooperatively to achieve the great level of success they have and while they still have heroin users that population is aging and not being replenished with new younger users. They also have never had a fentanyl problem because of how they went about it with compassion for these people.
Its sad to see so many people and communities as a whole get stuck in this quick sand called addiction. They lose everything...most detrimental...they lose hope. I hope they all find themselves again.
No, it's great.....it eliminates losers and degenerates.....they can put the cheapest best drugs on the table in front of me, and I'd laugh and get back to my book.....the more meth the better...
you know we saw this coming from a mile away from the glamorization of meth in that tv show called "Breaking Bad" the producer of that show did humanity a huge disservice by normalizing the use of meth into mainstream culture
I often wonder if actors or rappers feel negatively or anything at all about glamorizing these things. It really does start waves like Scarface started the coke dealing on a different level. It at least helped anyway.
@@lrrich8023 yeah I wonder if actors ever look at the legacy of their movies, and even some directors create really toxic esp all the crime mob boss shit !ovies for like 50 years now it's like c'mon lease
You mean the TV show that ended in 2013? Over a decade ago? Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on your argument, old people always want to blame the media and video games but your old ass forgot about one thing. Personal accountability. Tell me, when the bikers had their meth back in the 80s and 90s were they just wide eyed children watching TV and they just became meth dealers over night? NO! how about the Nazi soldiers using meth during ww2, did they just turn on breaking bad one night and decide "I want to do meth as a nazi solider." NO! That's not what happened either. Their government gave them their meth pills and they took them. Again their choice. Before you say that the amount of people doing meth today skyrocketed after the shows debut, did you watch the show itself? The show didn't glorify meth use, it showed all the nastiest parts of being a junky through Jesse's side of the story. It also clearly showed that Walter became a monster over time, hell Walt saw his brother in law get murdered I'm front of him because he was in the meth trade it showed all of the worst parts of this nasty drug. Of course you don't care because you never saw the damn show and just took the surface level of the show and decided to blame them for America's meth crisis. Fuck off. Next you'll be blaming Call of duty for terrorism and mass shootings.
It's not that it's just stronger meth, it really isn't. The best clear I was getting back in '06 was WAY better than the clear best clear of '21. Everyone was making meth with ephedrine or pseudoephedrine and that shit was so fire near the end. Then the law came down hard on purchasing ephedrine and pseudo and that was the end of an era. So nearly every manufacturer out has switched production to the much easier to access and cheaper to buy chemicals. The new P2P method for methamphetamine manufacturing using methylamine had been used by the Hell's Angels bike gang in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's. Only never before to produce crystal meth. However, now this is exactly what the big cartels are doing. And the chemicals used in this process, even the tiniest traces, unlike with ephedrine will cause a host of nasty side effects. Like psychosis, paranoia, and schizophrenia-like symptoms. Now the streets are flooded with this shit, it's cheaper to produce. Yet it's causing symptoms to appear in a matter of months that took years to appear on the old meth.
Laugh if you like, but it doesn't produce schizophrenia like symptoms, imo. it produces symptoms that appear to be similar to schizophrenia. What this shit does, in my humble opinion, is tune your brain to a frequency that is accessible to covert operators, who are tasked with driving certain people (those of us who pose a threat to their otherwise unimpeded control of the market, for whatever reason; those who won't or can't be part of their system. Gang members, heavy users, and those who are bound by oath, for example, are free to use without being subjected to radio induced 'psychosis' or threat of getting busted, so long as they are willing to work for the cops- monitoring and harassing those of us on the "no dope" list, as well as being granted "confidential informant" status, which allows them to peddle and use with relative immunity. The world has changed.
I dont want to pay for prisons because people are getting high. It is their right to Pursuit of Happiness. Bring back red zones; like the barbary coast in San Francisco, with drug dens, flop houses, and brothels.
@Yure Nidiot what ever. Dont spend my tax money locking people up and forcing your education on them. It doesn't matter to me if people get high. Dont come around here judging if someone's Happiness is real or not. Go get your vaccine Billy Bob.
@Soma Persona maybe we should do a better job of accommodations. There used to be the barbary coast in San Francisco until the do gooders shut it down. Bring back the red light districts. Free country, can't lock people up for getting high
I still don't understand how ANYONE ends up doing meth... When have you ever met a meth-head and thought "yeah ill have what he's having"? It really doesn't work out well for anyone that gets involved with it at all....
I used adderall to study for years and eventually tried it because I knew how similar they were. Nobody could really tell I was on it, always had normal people compliment me on how hard I was working or how much they enjoyed talking to me. Even had a christian lady invite me to her son's communion while I was on it because I seemed so friendly which I found particularly funny. Definitely not for everyone though, you need a lot of self control which typically isn't found in the the kind of person who is willing to try it.
There's a whole enterprise behind it. Dealers create a facade that starts in high schools, they target the popular crowd, get them addicted and try to pass that onto other kids. Many of these addicts were trying to fit in during school. You're right that it doesn't make sense, but that's why they target the youth and make them think it's the in thing to do, when it's all a money making scheme. They use women, big houses, house parties, social networks, rich kids, anything they can to get you hooked. They are much like a business in that sense, and a dangerous enterprise. Many commenters here want to legalize drugs because they are usually involved in this dirty business in some form.
I tried it because I was told it was like coke so I said fuck it I’ll try it and I did it and hated it at first but the more I did it I actually started having great highs I didn’t think I’d have a problem. Nobody goes into doing drugs thinking or knowing it’ll fuck up their entire life and themselves. I didn’t think Id get bad going into it. I told myself I’ll try it one and never do it again until I did it again and kept saying this is the last time and I found myself using it occasionally to sometimes going on benders. Plus I feel like a lot of drugs were very full of shit and people stereotype them and who uses them alot and I didn’t see all the things I was told about them happening to me or I didn’t see people who used looking like absolute shit so I thought it’s really not that bad but it is.
The gentleman in this video who straightened out their life are a beacon of hope and deserve to be commended. So many people just need a purpose that removes them from their temptation.
It's more then that we need to believe in ourselves and have some kind of a support system and I don't mean financially or letting is loaf off them but a group of folks that we can go to and talk to besides a paid counselor or aa/na
This is crazy because I've been saying that the Tweakers around the city seem to be even worse than I've ever recalled. They are more violent yet more like zombies
I thought you only get psychosis from staying up more than 3 days in a row on this stuff? I don't buy the "almost immediately" part, as if the chemical composition has changed.
Lots of homeless tweekers here in San Diego. They are everywhere literally come out of the bushes. Basically the whole state is flooded with meth. I heard the garbage goes for like $200 a ounce down here by the border. Super cheap and strong. Scary
Maybe, but also lots of people who don't use drugs but get lumped in with them automatically because of poverty and mental illness. Never assume you know one until it's proven.
@Timothy Ellis I picked up a pretty serious heroin habit in Denver. Lots of Hondurans there. As well as Mexicans. It's fairly close to the border so you'll see prices like that. That's super cheap though gd.
I can understand getting addicted to something like narcotics that make you feel mellow, no pain, relieves anxiety, etc. But being on this stuff doesn't seem like a pleasant experience, so it mystifies me a bit.
Imagine having a pharmaceutical company produce these drugs and allow doctors to prescribe them with some sort of oversight no matter how minimal. The Cartels would go broke and the violence would go down by 90%.
I suspect it would go down like opiates did. Docs and Pharma get rich, create addicts, raise the price, cut the addicts off, then the cartels roar back…
People like you don't understand the economics of this, that's why you want to legalize all drugs. You think the answer is as simple as legalization, and doesn't require responsibility. You want an easy out and an excuse for people who sell this deadly poison, it just isn't going to happen. Drug and poison laws have existed since Babylonian times, and will continue far into the future.
@@rs72098 You comment is highly flawed. First is that its illegal now and the war on drugs is a complete failure. We have drug dealers and cartels flourishing and selling unregulated drugs killing our kids and law enforcement by simply touching it being that its so concentrated. Look at what has happen with Marijuana being permitted by certain states! There has been a reduction in drug dealers selling it, regulated business instead conduct a professional service, and the tax revenue has brought theses states billions of dollard to fund schools and community needs. So to say to us "people like you don't get it" clearly showcases that your lack of reflection and understanding is what has brought us to such a dismal point in the first place. I'd take a long look in there mirror before your next "people like you" comment.
@Eidelmania Democrats started the KKK and they wanted to continue with slavery they're also responsible for the Jim crow laws Biden gave a eulage at a klansmans funeral he also said the guy was a Great man!
Stop dividing each other, that's what the elites want and it's happening. If we talk too each other without using media terminology we all literally agree.
Years back I used to kill pain. Severe emotional pain. I was a care giver to a Godly angel that deserved back what she gave . My dad dated her daughter. They were mid 60s . For 9 years dad tried to get me fired . He said I was on drugs. She got biblical care. To get introduced to drugs as a kid at dad's house. Noone asked if I was ok or needed help. I treated that precious angel as I would want. Loved every minute of it. If I was loving and taking care biblically to her 9 solid years . I worked 7 days every week. Never getting a day off. Yes I did need help but noone carred. I moved past all the dangerous chemicals on my own. Most all never even Knew any of my journey . Mom said your eyes look funny. Bet so. Open 5 days. That was all. 2 not successful suicide attempts. Around family yet noone carred why I was throwing up . 20 pain pills will do it. God is good. I am better than ever again. Work , strong .love life entirely. Self love now that is when love is truly exciting. 2 people able to give what they have. Love
I wonder if what he meant was that the more expensive stuff back in the day, a line would last you a couple of days and now a line of this new stuff…really don’t do shit. I mean, you’re awake, but no happy like it used to be. Just psychotic when you keep trying to “get there”
@@cassietherainbowsend722 we didnt smoke it back then. we snorted. I remember spending 25 for a quarter gram and party all weekend. now 20 bucks smoking will last all weekend. i dont know. still chew my tounge though lol. if your ever in minnesota lets compare. :)
Meth and crack addicts are the worst in terms of psychological effects of the habit. I am glad people are starting to talk about it openly without shame and judgment.
What they are talking about is....years ago . You could do meth for days and days and not freak out.. today's meth is giving people extreme psychosis almost immediately.....most of the fentanyl comes from China...they know it and it's killing more than ever today...wouldn't be surprised if this stuff is also coming from there.
Never thought I would have been a meth addict at some point but I'm sooo glad to be able to have gotten off it. Especially with how much it's taken over my city. One of the hardest things to get off of
@@handlethis213 My brother uses it and sells it. I tried it a few times but I didn't like it at all. Guess I'm lucky. I didn't know what it was until after the fact. I can't believe my own brother gave me something so dangerous.
Thank you for making this story. It's been hard to watch the morale of the city degrade and feel the need to pit blame but here you have three guys who made it out. I wish them well and I hope their good will spreads to others.
Maybe they like to get high. Dont need some righteous do gooders coming around. Open up a drug zone and a no drug zone and pick where you want to go. Accommodate the people. "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
@@MadnessMotorcycle because I am a Democrat. From the womb to the tomb. Daddy Gov will take care of me. Pay me a salary, fix my teeth. And all i have to do is lay on Venice Beach, get high, drunk, and fornicate. Now why are you a Republican? Work hard and go to church? Hahaha! Have fun dick! Jeff Spicoli: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
All I can say with me having 17 years clean off of Meth, is that you have to love yourself enough and have put yourself through crap that you would never do if you were clean that makes you dislike who you are well you are using. I can honestly say that, that I would have been dead by now.
Man you guys do anything, but leave. Abandon the society that makes you feel like these substances are what you need. Work together and build communities. Bring back older values of empathy and community and we can make life worth living again.
@@tyleruskating9874 leave as in abandon our society. This society makes us dependent and reliant on their illogical design. Im hoping to break from that.
I went through meth psychosis and don't wish it on anyone. When I went crazy...that killed my 5 month addiction for me. I been clean a year now. I do not miss that level of paranoia and delusions
You got half the city that believes the lie that these people are out on the streets purely because of COVID job losses or high rent. And until we can admit that this is a drug-fueled problem, it's only going to get worse as we insist on sweeping it under the rug. People will continue to overdose and our cities will continue to become too dangerous to live in or visit. We have to get a nationwide plan to get these people help, whether they like it or not.
Imagine if we had an education and public health campaign that focuses on honesty... Yes, there are drugs that will make you feel like Superman. These are the consequences.
I have a hard time working up empathy for people whose lives are ruined by the drug, I'm sure I should but I just don't. It isn't like these are defective Flinstone chewables. People looking for meth aren't looking to get their daily dose of vitamin C. That being said, I do have respect for those who manage to pull themselves back.
You don’t understand what it’s like to rely on a substance to survive. There’s is physically withdrawal. The mental part is even harder. Addiction rewires your brain. 75 percent of addicts don’t want to be addicts. Even after u stop your brain is never the same. The cravings are always there
Maybe a different perspective could help you. Most people think the opposite of addiction is sobriety. While technically it might be but the opposite of addiction for addicts is connection. Connection to their family, friends and their community. Many addicts don’t start off in life with connections to the world that are stable for various reasons. Being vulnerable to slightest upset they find a little comfort by using little by little and any good connection is lost from the stigmas as they use more and more. Under the influence of drugs and shame they find a new connection with other users. The connection to other users isn’t beneficial for them but it is more predictable than what they can see at the time. It’s not a place they end up in simply by choice. Most addicts want out of it but they don’t have many options. A decent rehab can cost $30k+ a month. State sponsored rehabs are overwhelmed and don’t have a good track record. All off that seems insurmountable to an addict. Try talking to someone that has experienced addiction and found a way out and I guarantee their path out involves creating or restoring a connection with a better world. The other parts of getting out of the cycle are as varying the events leading up to addiction. Many are similar but none are the same. A good way to help create a connection to better world is to avoid stigmas in the community. Many addicts have lost all of their friends and family permanently so the only connection left is community. Addiction is everywhere and effects everyone directly/indirectly so if you can find a way to genuinely have empathy for people that are lost in addiction, you are helping your community.
@CBEdits No one asked you to comment, and yet you've posted numerous stupid comments. If anyone should start using meth, heroin, fentanyl, etc., it's you. Get started!
They are the stupid assholes that decriminalized that garbage and now they wanna cry about it.what did they think was gonna happen?the problem would magically disappear.fuck the worthless junkies.
@StraightUpTruth someone I loved very much got lost in that hell and never fully recovered even after getting off of it. Anyone who gets anywhere near that horrific drug will never be the same again.
This country is under attack in many ways.
By the CIA
Selling drugs to America
super ceral guys man bear pig is real
Communist devils 😈.
@@carlbowles1808
Greedy capitalist
Stealing from the poor.
Somehow giant opioid crisis all at the same time
9 years old. I don’t think he did that to himself, someone failed this man when he was a boy.
100
na hes full of shit addicts love saying they used longer and harder then anyone else noway he started at 9 years old
I’m the neighbor. It was yummy and get it right … he brought the meth and asked me to do that to him. Lol
@@JohnDoe69986
Why what did the guy say
@@jessegraves9218
Yeah really funny
One huge problem with drug recovery is that most of these people have come in contact with law enforcement many have records and that keeps them from being able to find legitimate jobs when they try to change their lives. This inability to earn legitamate income and find housing keeps them on the street and depressed which in turn makes them turn back to the drug use. We need to remove the stigma from peoples past so they can change their future.
Don`t steal.If you have to steal to support your habit you have to think long and hard because it can ruin your whole life.I was a heroin addict for 10 years and held full time employment the whole time. Near the end I was almost broke.I took a two month leave of absence from my job,went through the pain of withdrawal. Went back to work but it took three years to feel halfway normal.( Insomnia) Never ever do heroin, it`s so seductive.
That's a stupid excuse. I was in trouble with the law the entire time I was young, and NEVER had a problem finding a job. These people do not want to work, that's why they have no jobs. I cleaned up my life, learned a trade, applied with government for federal clearance and now have a six figure income. Get your facts straight. A lot of these people don't want help and NOBODY can help them other than themselves.
@@pointnIaugh agree to disagree. I got clean and could not find a job due to my record. Where I live though, if you stay out of trouble long enough, your record gets swiped. Once my record was swiped I had no problem finding work, but getting work before then was almost impossible.
We've been talking at least since the 80's about how laws that are draconian in their punitive nature do not help anyone overcome addiction. The war on drugs is a war on people. But hey those private prisons have to stay full somehow!
No way, there’s soooo many programs to help people integrate back into society. Especially in Portland. There are more resources for the homeless than ever before. These people are addicts and/or crazies who REFUSE treatment and CHOOSE to live on the street because they are allowed to.
I did meth in 1978-79, joined the USAF in 1981 and retired in 2010. Best decision ever. Nasty sh!t.
How else is the US going to get idiots to war
Thank you for your Service. Retired Navy here, 2007. 🙂
So the meth was the best decision..? Or joining the air force..? Or leaving..?😉
Sorry, seriously I'm curious if you personally feel that meth influenced your mindset in such a way as to make joining the USAF a more likely choice, or made it more appealing..?
@@qjtvaddict you wouldn't have the courage to join the military, keyboard warrior.
Anyhow, Ex Airforce here too, thank you for your service sirs
the army is gay
I did it everyday for 11 years. I quit four months ago.
Good job bro !
U just did it with me yesterday what u mean buster
Stay as far away as you can.. it’s easy to fall back. Pray to God and get help to KEEP your off
Stay strong I've been clean for almost 2 years .
You'll be back..meth heads never quit till they die!
Psilocybin saved my life . I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September . I have zero cravings . This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment .
Psilocybin containing mushrooms helped me. They drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit
Please does anyone know where I can get them ? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels , I would love to try shrooms
When you've experienced psilocybin,the visions,the feeling that others feel become relatable and real, but when you haven't they could sound weird
@@louisianawalters7452 Yes Dr. Mile
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
I’m not proud of it but I write this in hopes that it helps someone out there.
23 years ago when I was 19 in 1998, I did meth that was “dirty”. Cheap quality. But the point is that I experienced extreme psychosis that basically made me a zombie for 10 years. The combination of meth and my obsessive compulsive issues were a terrible combination and I was lost in the head, unable to be myself of let go of OCD habits that left a negative mentality in me for those years. By the Grace of God He saved me and restored me, but the experience will stay with me for my life and the lives of my loved ones.
I just want to discourage anyone from meth or any drug for that matter. There is no better high than being successful in life and your loved ones happy for you and at peace. Don’t chase more than the good life that God has already given you. Every high has a low, and you have to come down and suffer some time. May God Bless us all.
Amen!
Thank you
8 weeks clean of meth lost my mind on the shit
James, find Dr. Gabor Mate' s book, "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts", he suffers from OCD & treats addicts. I've been clean 20 years but this book still helped me grow. Best to all who suffer 💙
My son is in psychosis now ,he's 33 has had mould around his heart . Won't let anyone help him ,it's 🥺💔 stay strong in Christ every day.
My step dad died of a meth overdose back in 2018. Before that he was living on the streets of Portland due to his heroine/meth addiction. When we tried to tell him to come home he said that her preferred to live on the streets. He was getting checks for 5150... it was really sad to watch him deteriorate over the years. This drug sucks and the government should do more to stop this crap. I live in California and can't even go to the store without seeing someone freaking out acting erratic from meth psychosis. I was driving one night and there was a lady slithering on the curb on her belly like a snake... scary!! Another time there was a man in a dark parking lot just ramming shopping carts into the wall over and over again laughing like a manic. I don't care what anyone says but I believe that drug opens you up to demons.
So sorry for your loss. I agree w/ you.
LA county morgue documentary.
@@NotitiaRecolligo thank u 💓
@@deadsypadilla thanks I will look it up!
We all allowed the huge corperations to become untouchable monopolies. And a considerable part of those monopolies are pharmaceutical companies. Pharmaceutical companies make money selling drugs. Noone has more money than Americans.
Even if its not that strong,after 4 days without no sleep you will get weird and paranoid and start to see things that are not there.
problem is people have no self control. There are High Profile users who work everyday, don’t steal and raise their children. People who let drugs control them are lacking will power or just looking for an excuse. I see it daily in the small towns here in the south. It’s destroyed so many towns and communities but it’s a supply and demand problem. Also research how many users were once on ADHD/ADD medicines such as Ritalin or adderall. They did a study and found once teens were kicked off parents insurance for reaching the age limit (technically not teens anymore) they resorted to using Meth. It gives them the same focus and calming effects as prescribed medicines. For non Adhd patients, they take Ritalin or adderall they are sped up and have the same effect as meth would. Your doctors and teachers are responsible for the meth epidemic. They choose which kids are considered suffering from Adhd or add when it is solely hyper kids. kids with natural energy. the meds they prescribed just zombified the children.
This is true. Even without an upper.
IMO, the problem for Portland isn't so much the meth, but the politicians who don't seem to give a shit about it being used by the citizens.
The politicians don't give a flying fuck about the American people c'mon now we're nothing but commodities used as pawns in their fucked up game nothing more
The thing is that in order to help, they need to stop putting addicts in the prison system (where they’ll just network and hook back up on the outside). They need to be put into rehab programs like these guys. It’s way better for the community to lift people up, rather than lock them up with violent criminals.
@@julianhyde1645 exactly by treating addicts like criminals and not what they truly are which are vulnerable and emotional adults usually with resolved traumas or deep mental scarring deserve to be treated like any other sick individual, once you become addicted you cannot just stop taking your substance cold turkey they need to ween off slowly and by just throwing these people in jail cells it’s only causing more of a polarity between police and civilians by making drug abuse a moral issue when it’s really a public health issue.
Unresolved not resolved excuse the typo.
Please tell me that the street name for this is called " Democrat ". ( Cheaper, stronger meth causing ‘extreme psychosis’ )
i know plenty of people who are stuck on this shit . best thing to do is never do it .
Make certain
Indeed
I tried it. Never got addicted. Must be lucky
@@demonprincess2045 Quitter
@@demonprincess2045
It’s just means you don’t have an addictive chemical inbalancement
Doing Meth at 9 years old is insanity. Poor guy, his parents were clearly users as well
I respect these guys a lot for their sobriety, particularly with them being surrounded by access to meth.
don't be so sure there not using i see the itching and grinding there teeth.....
@stormstruct Absolutely 💯 Now that is strength. I know I couldn't do it. These are real heroes, people who can kick an addiction🕉💜
Being around the “monster” 💊 is not good for them. Please tell them to go to Amazon or Walmart to work .. the rates are better this month !!
And not being around it is not either. Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't work and will always back fire. And not that it is, but my facial ticks and shit stayed with me over a year after getting sober. Stay in your lane and let people heal the way that works for them. God forbid we actually lift each other up these days, holy hell...
May you find the peace in yourself that you can't stand to see in anyone else🕉
Yes l concur 100%.... They are angels in a totally FKD City......by design unfortunatly.
How does $20 worth of meth only last for ten minutes? That sounds like cocaine. Even the smallest dose of meth will have someone amped for hours.
His tolerance probably went up
That's true but smoking meth can cause a brief peak of euphoria that only lasts a few seconds. The temptation to smoke more to get back to that ultra high peak usually causes the user to do even more
that debunks the whole cheaper lasterlonging part of it.
They do it all in 10min...shoot it up or smoke it stay high for a while.
Not true anymore. They use less Sudafed and shittier chemicals that are easier to find. The dope is not the same as it was in the early 2000's. I would only sleep twice a month back then and now I could go right to sleep after smoking a bowl, doing a line and an hour later doing a shot (iv) shit is garbage now. That's the only way to fight this drug epidemic is by reducing the power the drug gives. If you boost the power and make it great again more people will pick it up and use. I don't use anymore
Respect to all of them for turning their lives around, I cant imagine how difficult that mustve been
How about respect someone for not being a scumbag in the first place? I was a junky for decades and I don't feel I deserve an award for stopping. I did it because being dope sick really sucks
Their difficulty was running out of dope and then having to face reality.
@@ahbalone yeah that's really sad
@@ryanhom3006 I too was a junkie for decades and yeah, I was a peice of shit, but the fact still remains that less than 1% of dope users ever truly kick it, I'd say we earned a little recognition there, not to mention our truly valuable insight into society's darkest and scariest(by normal people's standards) places. Don't sell yourself short bro or you'll wind right back up in the hotseat again! Also, that attitude doesn't inspire other users to quit...
@@lightpropulsionguy I didn't want to quit. I miss it dearly I just can't handle being sick like that ever again. I'd rather die
I have been through drug induced psychosis. I am 6+ years clean from drugs, quit nicotene, and alcohol. It took me going to jail to get through the withdrawls from the drugs but it's all about your mindset because if you can make it through then you can be free for the rest of your life.
Keep reminding folks that it ain't nothing but good being sober from all drugs...can't beat natural highs
You said the magic word mindset . Addiction is a choice , make the right one !
Proof it can be done without praying to fake gods too!
@@mikeheaton8424
Addiction is not a choice people have a chemical problem in their brain The first time using is a choice after that for an addict it is not a choice that’s why you have people that can use recreationally and you have people that are addicts
Trix I’m a long sober alcoholic , addiction is a choice ! I got sober with no rehab , no relapse ! 100% addiction is a choice ! No sympathy !
I got news for you. Portland was already suffering of psychosis without any drugs for last 10 years.
I got some accurate factual news for you. Portlands drug problem goes back much further than 10 years... The psychosis is only increasing with the influx of Prope Dope...
@@herbhungry7565 I don't doubt that it does. I was saying people in Portland were nuts BEFORE drugs. Drugs are just making the issue worse. Read more carefully.
Actually, people in Portland have been more aware and active than most other oblivious cities in this country as far back as I can remember (25-30 years ago). It's no surprise that these sensitive, aware people go looking for ways to numb their senses.
@@theurbanthirdhomestead you must live in Portland.... no one outside of Portland (or maybe Seattle) would say something so idiotic.
@@IndyRockStar not at all, and I'm not a liberal either. I have a lot of respect for people willing to go against the grain of society to stand up for what they believe. 🙏 I did, however, spend a summer there doing landscaping way back in like 1995 or so.
I am so incredibly blessed (and lucky), that I was able to escape a 15 year meth addiction. The big problem for me is that it was manageable and I was amazingly functional at my work and home life and I also managed to avoid any sort of legal consequences. Unfortunately, what meth did do was destroy my soul and my self respect. I thoroughly despise that person that I was and now it's a lifetime of recovery. I am confident I will not use meth again, but the spiritual and psychological damage is real and I will always have to struggle with the shadow of that "other guy", that still exists even without the meth.
Anybody with a loved one flipped out, don't just give up on em. You can pull em back out even though they seem to far gone.
Don't think you can't do it.
I recently went as far as signing everything I own over to my wife, prepared for a life of the unknown..Prison, life or death for my son. Yup, I know he made a bad choice ta fuck around but I know he didn't choose to flip out. I honestly didn't know if he'd get out of the flip out but I chased him down day and night for 3 months. Getting into it with law and street folk but eventually! Locked him down for about a month. 24/7 monitoring. No phones no self time for him. No visitors or nothing.
Hes 100% now.
Don't give up on your loved ones. If they're not themselves, can we kick em to the curb?
I couldn't. I'd do life for my kid. Thank God I made that choice.
Take care of community to. An individual doesn't have to do it all by themselves. Even helping somebody who is trying to save somebody works big fuckin miracles.
Real talk you're a real one,sounds like you got your priorities in check,much respect! My kids mean more to me than my own life,I will do whatever they need.
My family kicked me out over weed end of the day you just gotta accept anyone who does this simply doesnt love their people and was looking for the first excuse to give up
@@gokushkameha-ha-ha9344 I'm not sure where you live but be careful smokin bud. Back in the day, our parents would add to the hype of drugs being bad, including smoke. You may already know this but as today goes, alot of the cheaper shit is getting rolled in all kinds of shit. Its flippin fools out, even first timers. If you've got that going on where you're at, it catches up. The bud ain't just bud in some cases anymore and thats lame.
I know some people like ta fuck around with other shit to but to be honest, we've all already heard the song and seen the dance from both sides of the spectrum. Those that use and those that don't.
In you're family situation, I can't call it. Takes you and them being 100% honest to yourselves.
I use to fuck around with anything under the rainbow but what came first was how I treated those around me.
I didn't want anybody fucking with my life but at the same time, I didn't wanna fuck up anybody elses.
When I was real with myself is when I stopped fucking around.
When were high! Were fucked up!
Good shit right?
At that same time though, we can't see everything for how it is, were different.
In my case as a parent now, I booted my son twice, he was using and was impacting the whole house negatively.
He had ta go.
He called it one day and was like pops, I'm done...I wanna get right. I was like cool.....I got you.
He detoxed hard as fuck 2 times. He did it. I just supported him.
This last time, he just wanted ta blaze it. He got ahold of some danky shit that had been put together with some other shit and just flipped out. Gone...he had always been honest about what he was doing so I didn't trip. I knew he was being honest this time around. He was jacked up though. Couldn't just be bud right?
So I did like i knew how ta do. Followed homeboy around town. Got all his spots on lock and noticed this bud was wack....but he wanted that shit.
So, with my past as a youngster I was like fuckit, rolled up, walked in onea the pads saling this bud right, got busy quick like and took dudes shit.
Checked it out and this fool was droppin all kinds of shit in this bud. He was crying when he told me and said a gang of people is doing like that.
I told my son, look. These foo's are lacing this shit sick like, did you know?
He was like, no pops but lemmie get that!...I was like son,,,,you trippin...
For the first time ever, my kid got crazy and was flippin out. We never got into it. Never.
Hes onea the dopest and flyest kids out there.
He'd never roll like that!
That shit killed but right away, I seen he was done. He lost it. I had no choice cuz although he chose to smoke bud, he didn't chose all that other shit.
Wasn't just him either.
Kids and adults around here was dropping like flies. Thats not cool.
So, we did that damn thing right, with all kinda fellas, streets and some other shit. All bad.
It saved his life and pretty recent he came back all the way.
Ended up he wanted ta get at dudes that did it but check it.
Its a nation wide thing.
Were here in Cali, I got boys all over and some have gone through same shit.
All within months apart.
Once a kid is fuckin with anything and the parents feel they've lost thier son, its crazy...some just bone out on the kid cuz fuck it, it ain't thier kid nomore.
Others have no clue and get scared then say fuck it.
Very few have the life experiences to be able to go kick doors in. Smash on foo's ta get em ta talk then take a couple moths off ta get em right.
Then the system!
They want motherfuckers on anything, they don't care.
I ain't trying ta preach foo but really take a look at everything. If you can't hide the bud smokin from your family then maybe something that comes with it is the issue.
Could be as simple as a no tolerance on your families side which I would agree with as long as you're sound body, mind and sole.
If you get some bad shit and flip out! Then I'd hope they'd go ta bat for you.
Truth, thats it.
If you're blazin is worth the loss,,,,question that stuff.....
Be fuckin safe Gokush.
I was kicked out for my addiction and my Christian family never forgave me even after 20 years. Ironic.
@@bassman4201000 And you're probably just fine. In some cases that is for the better. Part of my "Christian" family members were more like the Manson family. All hyped up on that judgement juice.
Its all good though. Once I realized everybody else is simply a person like I am, I was good ta go. Just did life...
Kenneth's last story is the bottom line: Ppl have to want better for themselves... plain and simple.
So you are saying that people whom want it better look towards Meth in the first place?
You want to better yourself? First Get Off The Dope That Makes Your Life So Wonderful.
@@peetydontpass8309 I don't know if I would describe paranoia, psychosis, and violent outbursts as "so wonderful"
to want better, they have to first believe that it is possible. most addicts treat their addiction like it's the plague - something to be ashamed of - like they aren't completely human. most of them get very good at hiding it. I bet you know some of them and don't even know it.
Plain and simple... Nothing is plain and simple. One person can want to succeed and do so, it has little relevance to every individual situation of human suffering.
Our world is full of temptation, the kinds of things that fire up dopamine... Like close friendships use to do.
How does a 9 year old get meth? His family failed him
I'm seeing a lot of compassion on here from folks who've never been addicted. As an addict in recovery that's really heart warming. It's easy to not feel compassion for the people breaking into your cars at night and talking with train cars as they scream by. It's a living, waking nightmare . And with this dope they are talking about , the nightmare comes faster , stays longer , and hits harder.....untill it kills you.
Thank you for your heart
Nobody wants to be this way
Meth really is the perfect metaphor for the devil in starting out getting you addicted as the lucifer angel of light compound and insidiously degrades your executive function and memory till you lose everything and ultimately your life. Thankfully I only dabbled with meth fewer than 10 times but I really didn't enjoy it after the first 5 hours it required lots of downers to mellow out the crash. But I can see how people get hooked so easily for 1. Chasing the high, and 2. Absolve themselves of the low after the high wears off. Its a boom and bust cycle thats easy to get caught up in.
It always seemed to me that addiction is it's own punishment. People engage in all kinds of self destructive behavior. Most of them don't get persecuted and jailed for it. They get help and compassion. We should be able to offer the same to drug addicts.
we all have choices.
Hear hear, my friend...
You stole from my vehicle?? Ummmm dye
I smoked it everyday for ten years. The only side effects I had was unemployment and prison
The moral dicks in this country infringe on the rights to the Pursuit of Happiness.
That's not true haha.
@@damienbunting873 I would clean my dog's house at 3am and take my bike apart too
@@smokingjoe9864
just about EVERY meth head is a thief. When your "Pursuit of happiness" victimizes others then its WRONG YOU IDIOT.
@@zoggrog8823 a small percentage of druggies are thieves. Millions get get high. Millions dont steal.
i had a guy randomly walk up and ask me if i knew where i could find this type of stuff.blew my mind that ppl are so desperate that theyd approach a complete stranger not knowing who they are or what there capable of.its sad really
Maybe dont legalize hard drugs then whine about the problems this caused..you created the DAMN problem if we legalize hard drugs no one will use them. ?????????
Who legalized recreational meth?
Incidentally, meth, like cocaine, is a Sch II drug available by prescription.
Institutionalize them
Meth isn't legal, and this type of meth isn't new, there's always been meth this is clickbait.
@@johntaranto29 Additionally, if it's the old biker meth, it's D-L meth rather than the D-meth made from pseudoephedrine, meaning it should be a bit speedier but give less of a high.
So the drug war was working? Is that what you’re saying? Institutionalizing people and giving them criminal records works better? And I don’t think Portland actually legalize meth, they decriminalized it to where there’s no criminal charges. Which is a step in the right direction. What they have is a human problem, not a meth problem
It's a sad day in America when a man can no longer enjoy real meth in a city gutter
To make matters worse; they are cleaning up trash that homeless meth heads need for survival.
Well doctors are prescribing adderall to just about anyone including children... Adderall is amphetamine and meth is methamphetamine... They try to say young kids energy is just ADHD when all young animals have alot of energy, look at puppies they never stop moving or any other animal
@@Gnarnia.
Yep absolutely
We have the constitutional right to take any drug- The pursuit of happiness ✳️☯️🛸🔮🦄👄
@@Gnarnia. What?
IN MY 56 YEAR'S I'VE NEVER USED NO DRUG'S NOT NOW NEVER WILL
54 here
Lucky you. Modern times are scary as hell
Hey Kenneth, Nick, and Eddie, great work guys! Never, ever give up on yourself again...One recovering addict to another, you're worth living for.👍
Keep going my brothers there are more of us than they think 🙏🇬🇧
Just cause u were an addict don't make u ruined. It actually makes you very useful!
@@beavinator420 Thanks, Joseph. That's easy to lose sight of sometimes. But it's true.
@@boldflyer_creations are you in Portland? Im a stoner from hell and grow the shit
@@beavinator420 I am in Portland. I'm totally substance free, though, my friend.
Old school meth was like strong diet pills and you could actually get stuff done. Performance enhancing. Today's meth you can't concentrate long enough to write your name
Dats da gud stuff
Just like the old PCP , you could lift weights and become strong as hell . Now ? , Your gonna freak out for sure
Doesn't it just come down to dosage? When I was using I did small bumps and I could function fine, then one night I seen some other people doing it and they were doing lines 20x the size of mine and I was like ok I get how you are all so fucked up now.
i used meth briefly, only eating it tho i tried snorting it and smoked it years later briefly, in 1971. It was like super-adderall and had a real clean high and made a person feel cheerful and wide awake etcetera. Recently, I was foolish enough to eat some of the "crystal" or "ice" that is around here nowadays. All it di was make me crazy and there was no pleasure. Maybe it is the L instead of the D version, see Sam Quinnes article at The Atlantic for more info there. I don't know. I'm glad I didn't like this new stuff. To me it was nothing like the speed I knew from the 70s and from the 90s or so, which was the last time i had tried it before last week. This new meth seems to be pure insanity in a bottle and just a trip to psychosis, very different and unpleasant compared to what I thought it would be.
@@Esketh19 Dosage is certainly important, and someone who goes psycho on a larger dose might get a therapeutic benefit from a smaller dose, I don't know. Sleep deprivation is of course a major factor, that and malnutrition. And God help the people using the needle. It tears a human being apart yet they can't stop without help and even then, well to me the Higher Power must be sought just as 12 step programs tell us, and I believe it.
its about time someone said it. every single person is sick. our society is breaking down or is totally broken.
Im my 20s I took whatever was put in front of me. Thank God no one put meth or heroin before me. I lost a dear girlfriend to meth. I got sober and clean and she was not able to. I think of her often. I thank God every day for my sobriety - its now 42 years
I'm glad these men found redemption.
No they found support and a clean way to live
That guy basically said meth lasted longer in the past! 5 days for $20 and now it last 4-10 mins! That means it's weaker
What's funny is literally no meth lasts 4 to 10 minutes LOL all of it keeps you up for days
You noticed that too? It must of slipped passed the editing of this almost perfect piece of propaganda.
My sister has been on it for over a year now I finally had to separate myself from her the main thing that always comes to mind when she acts crazy is the devil it reminds me of pure evil
Wait, that guy was hooked at 9? That's tragic
Those three men--Kenneth, Rick, Eddie--are fantastic examples of people who managed somehow to walk away from the hellish enslavement of addiction, they are survivors of the nightmare. Big hugs guys, not just for your strength in getting out of that life but also for your willingness to share your stories. Blessings to them and to all others who have walked their path.
I don't think people like you understand drugs or addiction at all
@@user-bk3kv8sl9z dude for real. I’m so tired of these ignorant narratives about visibly irresponsible drug users. Back when I used to slang I’d sell to lawyers, doctors, moms, construction foremen, you name it. These people legitimately think hard drugs are mind control devices that create mindless automatons.
It's Nick lol
@@user-ge9gz3sn5sshut up bot
Getting off meth and staying sober is a HUGH feat! Much respect to these three men.
Lol if it’s not addictive why do so many people do it and why can’t they stop right away. Ur fuckin stupid
@CBEdits man, you just like to make up facts and pull them out of your ass don't you. you have a rationalization for everything yet wonder why no one agrees with you or likes you. yah i don't give a shit
@CBEdits everything you're saying is a direct reflection of yourself, fuck off
@CBEdits thank you !
@@mercutiomurphy2743 your mad because you believe that bullshit and feel like you accomplished something and now you're but hurt it shows considering dude just stated facts and you started hurling insults like a little girl
10 months sober my hats off to these guys. I moved states twice been through multiple treatment programs. I'm in a place now where it's not as accessible. Don't know what I'd do in Portland if it was all around me.
The further I move away from drugs means it is just a longer drive to get high.
@@smokingjoe9864 respect the honesty but I'm sure it would slow you down a bit at least.. ? At least you'd have to have your shit together enough to make the trip.
Meth is everywhere.....just say you don't have a hook up near you 😉
@@JtPrince it everywhere like you said.
I was on H for 14 years ..lived on the streets in big cities in Germany..(Frankfurt, hamburg,berlin,kassel ..now cologne )
But since 4 years I am "clean" [methadone from 120mg to now 7mg and soon 0] and I live in a big city next to a scene where I could get almost anything I want ..
I guess ..if you have purpose in live and someone who loves you ..thats no problem at all ..
How does the math work here? If a $20 bag lasted 4-5 days a decade ago, and now "it lasts 10 minutes," how does the reporter figure it's cheaper now?
And reported to be so much more pure and potent now compared to then 🤔
I am a first responder and this problem is huge and growing. It is a multi faceted problem of societal decay,loss of morality and loss of recognition of the importance of lives. Society is unravelling not only in Portland but in the US.There are truly no simple answers...
Maybe we dont like your morals. Some people like to get high. The city needs to accommodate these citizens. Bring back the red light districts. Open up the flop houses, drug dens, and brothels for people to stay at. Do gooders want to force people to live their God fearing ways. Worse than the Taliban.
Portland wanted this lol
@@smokingjoe9864 drugs are illegal. As long as meth is illegal, it's not gonna happen. People just don't get high once in awhile. People can't handle it, commit crimes to support their habits. I don't see someone arguing with pretend people getting and keeping a job.
@@maggie0285 only illegal because of you moral people dont like drugs. Well the majority is a changing sunshine
@@maggie0285 I have been getting high since 1979. I work. Millions get high and work. I will tell you....your war on drugs - drug testing, that still goes on today, isn't fair and only makes it harder to get a job. We would work 12 hour shifts of hard labor and do lines on our break. Best workers you had. Now they faint if you pop open a beer at work. A man was judged by the size of the bar in his office. Big boss, big bar, office clerk, flask in the drawer. Sissified the country.
I hate this drug with a passion. My ex used to fly into blind rages when he used meth, and one time tried to light me on fire. If anyone reading this is currently using I'm begging you to go get help. It will destroy you and take everyone you love down with you.
I grew up in a small town in Wisconsin (early 2000's). I was 13 and it was honestly hard to find a bag of weed. Plenty of pills though.. Once the DEA started their "war on drugs" nobody had their prescriptions, and from that moment I was introduced to heroin and so was everyone else. Everyone was high on heroin. Some friends and family died or was in prison faster than you could imagine. Nowadays when I pass through my old neighborhood you see folks tweaking just about everywhere. Meth is so bad here that ppl sell the shit for $40 a ball, sometimes I get it for free. I am very worried for what my future holds at this moment. It's so hard.
@illicitlitmisfit I hear you and I really appreciate the concerns. I wish it was as easy to get out. No matter where I go it follows and eventually finds me. I just try to stay healthy and keep my use to a minimum but you know how that goes. God bless, you're a good old soul.
Shit a lot Worse things you could be doing than meth It's literally the 2nd widely used recreational drug other than weed
They used to call the old biker stuff Crank instead of crystal meth.
And why did they call it crank......hint, it has to do with where they hid it.
@@pwilki8631
pull that side cover buddy we got a run to make....
Stick to plants, kids. You're more likely to survive being stupid on plants.
Yeah, give these people some hemlock.
And fungi.
Yeah give these guys some mint and basil
Yeah being a vegan is best.
ephedra is a plant
Nightmare--No homelike peace: I live with man who keeps trying, failing to stop illegal drug use. Rage so obvious when he relapses.
I've had psychosis from meth, it's crazy how real it is to the user.
Yeah bro I've never done meth but LSD addiction is real and I was addicted to LSD and singing on acid. When you start going into a different world you are actually there the mind can only say this is real people think "hallucinations" are not real but they are simply not in this reality. So it's real. I hate how people say you cannot get addicted to LSD.
I hate to bother you but can you go into detail?
@@johngumbs2111 well my psychosis was more spiritual than most others. I used a little different, instead of staying up a week stealing, I'd be up a week reading and learning different religious and occult beliefs. Was still crazy though, I'll try to keep as short as possible. But lasted about three years. Started with seeing a vision, just a flash. Then I did see a shadow being, not in the corner of my eye but I seen it at a distance and it walked toward me. Then later I had an extreme energy come over my body(wasn't high at this time), and something communicated with me. Didn't hear voices but there was a clear communication. It was about finding God. Then meth even fueled it more. About a year later around Christmas time I ended up knowing I was God. Seen it written in the air in front of me. Even hung myself thinking I was dying for the better of others. Almost felt like a test. Not long after that I became sober, maybe a few months. So mine felt like a spiritual awakening to me but others perceived at as psychosis. It's hard to explain how real it is.
My brother lost his f****** mind
@@psychoskate970 bro i had something similar happen very recently. It’s confusing
Never do recreational drugs. Everyone I know who has, is either dead, or living a miserable, dead-end life. I don't know a single person in 53 years who managed to break out of that mold, until they quit drugs, got clean. Never start. If you have started, please get help to get off.
Everyone should blacklist meth heroine and both forms of cocaine. However, many many other drugs CAN be used safely.
Psychedelics have the potential to positively impact your entire life. Weed is useful for entertainment purposes and isn’t terribly addictive unless you use it everyday for months or years without sober time. Alcohol can be socially beneficial and used without any problem until you use it daily as well. Most drugs are fine if you just don’t make a habit out of it. Psychedelics will kick your ass if abused and are just different ( less of a drug, more of a key to an ignored aspect of your mind and reality)
@@jjhack3r Yeah except alcohol is not fine it destroys everything in your body. Cannabis is not just for fun, it is medical food, you eat it raw to heal. The best thing to be social is to have a good balance of nutrition, so that everything works as it should.
Ok. So you don't drink alcohol?
Amen.
Extreme Psychosis & slurred speech patterns, violence, hearing voices when no one is there.
My only son died at 30 years old because of Meth.
Legalize and regulate. The war on drugs is a year on humanity. Prohibition hasn’t worked
THESE MEN ARE SO STRONG!!!!!! AND I PRAY THEY STAY CLEAN 🙏
Clean and Safe…I personally applaud you guys for what you do in helping keep our streets clean. Thank you. And keep your chin up.
The city failed them when they decriminalized meth and heroin.
@@noneyadamnbusiness33
Not it’s a medical issue not a criminal issue
@@noneyadamnbusiness33 Sure sounds to me like they were using before decriminalization and went clean after decriminalization(or around that time period).
Is your argument that if only they had gone to prison, at an early age, their lives would have been much better? After all being surrounded by all of the wisdom sharing, kind, free love types in prison turns around so many lives. We've built amazing rehabilitation centers in american prisons. They help give people a purpose and they come out with skills ready to work and contribute to the community. The community, seeing they are out of prison and therefore must be rehabilitated, do not hold their sentence against them and are quick to give them gainful employment and housing.
Right^^^^???? No, the exact opposite is much more true, is it not? We should be very wary of sending people to prison for the first time unless they are repeatedly proving themselves to be a lost cause or have committed violent crimes against others. In either case their danger to society outweighs the gravity of sending them to prison where they will be treated like animals and surrounded by low iq brutes who will likely try to victimize them.
Yeah, right. They are only after they're own wallet.
That being the news people.
Open borders wont help the situation.
I believe addiction is caused by childhood trauma and it is not passed down.
Hand it out for free. Clean up the streets.
I see, let them take care of it,permanently. I think offing the dealer would be better.
It's a sad fact to face, but prohibition doesn't teach you how to get sober. You have to be free to find out for yourself. Otherwise addiction will eventually find you unprepared.
Absolutely. Prohibition just makes drugs more edgy and attractive, and keeps a percentage of people on the margins of society.
@@brittaolson6550 also more unpredictable and deadly. If health was a concern prohibition would apply smoking. If public safety was, it would be alcohol before drugs. I don't know why they wanna fight the same battle again and again.
@@mozarth brilliantly conveyed.
@tripplefives That's a strange thing to say about oxygen.
Portland Leading the way!
Congratulations!
I'll tell u one thing for sure....that guy didn't start smoking meth at 9 yrs old
I'm glad I'm 70 now.. we only had real drugs pot coke. And mushrooms this new shit is crazy
The third reich was fueled by meth. This stuff isn’t new.
Lol ether, meth, lsd, heroin, mescaline, dmt, etc etc and many many many other drugs were synthesized by end of ww2. There isn’t really any new drugs just new analogues. Look up Alexander shulgin
@@Just.A.T-Rex Shulgin! A true luminary. Reading his book now, “the nature of drugs”.
I tried meth once and that stuff is not addictive. It just makes you anxious, jittery and where you can't go to sleep. I will never try it again. I never got any euphoria from it, just pure anxiety.
Hate to break it to you....but no substance is addictive after just one or 2 uses. Now if you were to use it for 2 weeks straight, you may become addicted
Cause it’s a simple fact, it is addictive. It changes your brain chemistry, releases dopamine to such an extreme level that you brain becomes dependant on that release in order to feel “good”
Wow I guess your opinion is all the evidence you need. Im sure you are much more informed than all the medical professionals that call meth a VERY addictive drug.
@@zoggrog8823 I didn't say that. I know it's addictive for a lot of people. I just don't have an addictive personality
@@zoggrog8823 Most drugs have the opposite effect on me. I don't even like Marijuana. The only drug I tried that I liked was shrooms.
I had a huge meth addiction 5 years ago, now I get high about every 3 to 6 months, I went to Portland and got high off meth, it made me talk uncontrollably, really strange crap there
yeah. doesn't sound like "extremely pure" meth. If it was pure then this would not be happening. It's quite easy to titrate when smoking, so if it is more pure then people just smoke less and save money. Something wrong with this reporting. Plus the stuff in the 90s and early 2000s that was made from psuedo (before it was controlled) was the good stuff.The everything in the last 10 years at least has been garbage unless you have a really good connect.
Also that one guy said it used to be that a bag would last you 4-5 days now it's 4-5 hours, Since he was a recent user he would know. That is the opposite of "more pure". Meth isn't all too dissimilar to the amphetamine salts they give little kids with adhd. Both are neurotoxic and have the same effects. Meth just lasts longer.But that's not the narrative they want to push. But this is the result of banning and demonizing certain drugs. People are the same for 100,000s year and more. Seeking mind altering substances is part of our DNA If you try to forcibly prevent that behavior it's just going to come out in an even more desperate and dangerous way. Add to that the fact that the street makers have to alter the process to produce an inferior and more dangerous product just compounds the problem. All my life they been talking about getting tough on drugs and showing off the huge busts and where has it got us? We are worse now than ever. Time for a radically new approach based on acceptance and compassion and not prohibition and demonization + incarceration. If you have a problem with drugs being made legal for adult usage then you are the problem.
@@trippmoore check out Hamilton's Pharmacopia "A possitive meth story."
Yeah, there's something wrong with that shit.
@@trippmoorebut it got worse in Portland since its legalization so really not true what you’re talking about
@@Elijah8890 cant just say its legal without completely rethinking how we treat drug users. Look how they treat heroin addicts in the Netherlands. That’s a well thought out top down solution that treats users like people that need help with the ultimate goal of welcoming the back into society. It invokes many agencies all acting cooperatively to achieve the great level of success they have and while they still have heroin users that population is aging and not being replenished with new younger users. They also have never had a fentanyl problem because of how they went about it with compassion for these people.
I've struggled with drugs on and off pretty much my entire life, however I was always intelligent enough to never touch meth. That shit is pure poison
Its sad to see so many people and communities as a whole get stuck in this quick sand called addiction. They lose everything...most detrimental...they lose hope. I hope they all find themselves again.
that's deep yo.
No, it's great.....it eliminates losers and degenerates.....they can put the cheapest best drugs on the table in front of me, and I'd laugh and get back to my book.....the more meth the better...
You make a good point
My question is specifically who sells it? ....so I know who to avoid...
They're not sick they just like drugs. It is what they want. Them carrying on this victim act and you feeling sorry for them doesn't help at all.
you know we saw this coming from a mile away from the glamorization of meth in that tv show called "Breaking Bad" the producer of that show did humanity a huge disservice by normalizing the use of meth into mainstream culture
I often wonder if actors or rappers feel negatively or anything at all about glamorizing these things. It really does start waves like Scarface started the coke dealing on a different level. It at least helped anyway.
@@lrrich8023 yeah I wonder if actors ever look at the legacy of their movies, and even some directors create really toxic esp all the crime mob boss shit !ovies for like 50 years now it's like c'mon lease
You mean the TV show that ended in 2013? Over a decade ago? Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on your argument, old people always want to blame the media and video games but your old ass forgot about one thing. Personal accountability. Tell me, when the bikers had their meth back in the 80s and 90s were they just wide eyed children watching TV and they just became meth dealers over night? NO! how about the Nazi soldiers using meth during ww2, did they just turn on breaking bad one night and decide "I want to do meth as a nazi solider." NO! That's not what happened either. Their government gave them their meth pills and they took them. Again their choice. Before you say that the amount of people doing meth today skyrocketed after the shows debut, did you watch the show itself? The show didn't glorify meth use, it showed all the nastiest parts of being a junky through Jesse's side of the story. It also clearly showed that Walter became a monster over time, hell Walt saw his brother in law get murdered I'm front of him because he was in the meth trade it showed all of the worst parts of this nasty drug. Of course you don't care because you never saw the damn show and just took the surface level of the show and decided to blame them for America's meth crisis. Fuck off. Next you'll be blaming Call of duty for terrorism and mass shootings.
It's not that it's just stronger meth, it really isn't. The best clear I was getting back in '06 was WAY better than the clear best clear of '21. Everyone was making meth with ephedrine or pseudoephedrine and that shit was so fire near the end. Then the law came down hard on purchasing ephedrine and pseudo and that was the end of an era. So nearly every manufacturer out has switched production to the much easier to access and cheaper to buy chemicals. The new P2P method for methamphetamine manufacturing using methylamine had been used by the Hell's Angels bike gang in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's. Only never before to produce crystal meth. However, now this is exactly what the big cartels are doing. And the chemicals used in this process, even the tiniest traces, unlike with ephedrine will cause a host of nasty side effects. Like psychosis, paranoia, and schizophrenia-like symptoms. Now the streets are flooded with this shit, it's cheaper to produce. Yet it's causing symptoms to appear in a matter of months that took years to appear on the old meth.
So true.
Well said
Laugh if you like, but it doesn't produce schizophrenia like symptoms, imo. it produces symptoms that appear to be similar to schizophrenia.
What this shit does, in my humble opinion, is tune your brain to a frequency that is accessible to covert operators, who are tasked with driving certain people (those of us who pose a threat to their otherwise unimpeded control of the market, for whatever reason; those who won't or can't be part of their system.
Gang members, heavy users, and those who are bound by oath, for example, are free to use without being subjected to radio induced 'psychosis' or threat of getting busted, so long as they are willing to work for the cops- monitoring and harassing those of us on the "no dope" list, as well as being granted "confidential informant" status, which allows them to peddle and use with relative immunity.
The world has changed.
Support and Respect the Portland Police Bureau. Help them clean up the streets. Clean Up Portland NOW. More Cops = Less Crime.
I dont want to pay for prisons because people are getting high. It is their right to Pursuit of Happiness. Bring back red zones; like the barbary coast in San Francisco, with drug dens, flop houses, and brothels.
@Yure Nidiot just as fake as your church Happiness.
@Yure Nidiot I can see and feel meth. Can you see and feel God? What one is fake? Meth or God? Uptight moral dick wants to lock everyone up.
@Yure Nidiot what ever. Dont spend my tax money locking people up and forcing your education on them. It doesn't matter to me if people get high. Dont come around here judging if someone's Happiness is real or not. Go get your vaccine Billy Bob.
@Soma Persona maybe we should do a better job of accommodations. There used to be the barbary coast in San Francisco until the do gooders shut it down. Bring back the red light districts. Free country, can't lock people up for getting high
I still don't understand how ANYONE ends up doing meth... When have you ever met a meth-head and thought "yeah ill have what he's having"? It really doesn't work out well for anyone that gets involved with it at all....
I used adderall to study for years and eventually tried it because I knew how similar they were. Nobody could really tell I was on it, always had normal people compliment me on how hard I was working or how much they enjoyed talking to me. Even had a christian lady invite me to her son's communion while I was on it because I seemed so friendly which I found particularly funny. Definitely not for everyone though, you need a lot of self control which typically isn't found in the the kind of person who is willing to try it.
There's a whole enterprise behind it. Dealers create a facade that starts in high schools, they target the popular crowd, get them addicted and try to pass that onto other kids. Many of these addicts were trying to fit in during school. You're right that it doesn't make sense, but that's why they target the youth and make them think it's the in thing to do, when it's all a money making scheme. They use women, big houses, house parties, social networks, rich kids, anything they can to get you hooked. They are much like a business in that sense, and a dangerous enterprise. Many commenters here want to legalize drugs because they are usually involved in this dirty business in some form.
I tried it because I was told it was like coke so I said fuck it I’ll try it and I did it and hated it at first but the more I did it I actually started having great highs I didn’t think I’d have a problem. Nobody goes into doing drugs thinking or knowing it’ll fuck up their entire life and themselves. I didn’t think Id get bad going into it. I told myself I’ll try it one and never do it again until I did it again and kept saying this is the last time and I found myself using it occasionally to sometimes going on benders. Plus I feel like a lot of drugs were very full of shit and people stereotype them and who uses them alot and I didn’t see all the things I was told about them happening to me or I didn’t see people who used looking like absolute shit so I thought it’s really not that bad but it is.
@@rs72098 legalizing drugs makes them cheap. There's no profit in that if you're running a business
The gentleman in this video who straightened out their life are a beacon of hope and deserve to be commended. So many people just need a purpose that removes them from their temptation.
Anyone has the right to choose. Quit trying to police everyone
@@beavinator420 I don't care if they throw gerbils up the butt, the problem is when drug addicts try to kill people when they steal and go crazy
Didnt they make meth legal to have and carry? Lol idiots
It's more then that we need to believe in ourselves and have some kind of a support system and I don't mean financially or letting is loaf off them but a group of folks that we can go to and talk to besides a paid counselor or aa/na
@@beavinator420 stop robbing others when doing the dope. Stop being a burden on the tac payers and yeah as a recovering addict I get to say that
This is crazy because I've been saying that the Tweakers around the city seem to be even worse than I've ever recalled. They are more violent yet more like zombies
Is this a Meth Ad? Are you looking to have a bunch of drug addicts show up from out of town? Cheap and potent 🤦🏾♂️
Damn that Meth is so strong they are hearing people's thoughts.
Ya ya that must be it
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I thought they were hearing the demons waiting for their soul to leave their body so the evil spirits can take over.
I thought you only get psychosis from staying up more than 3 days in a row on this stuff? I don't buy the "almost immediately" part, as if the chemical composition has changed.
Lots of homeless tweekers here in San Diego. They are everywhere literally come out of the bushes. Basically the whole state is flooded with meth. I heard the garbage goes for like $200 a ounce down here by the border. Super cheap and strong. Scary
@@Michael_J_M14 $1200+ for a gram in Aus. 150-200 a p
Maybe, but also lots of people who don't use drugs but get lumped in with them automatically because of poverty and mental illness. Never assume you know one until it's proven.
@@dcwhite8889 Yeah Australias drug prices are unreal.
@Timothy Ellis I picked up a pretty serious heroin habit in Denver. Lots of Hondurans there. As well as Mexicans. It's fairly close to the border so you'll see prices like that. That's super cheap though gd.
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$1200 For a gram that can’t be right I’m in the wrong business
They look like they have 10 minutes sober. 😳🤷😳
How is it more potent if 20 last 10 minutes but the old stuff use to last 4 days?
Imagine someone strung out on this stuff with access to a firearm. Human life wouldn't mean a thing to that person
You're funny.
Don't imagine because you don't know. Most murders are directly related to family and alcohol.
Image you are targeted by said individual. I hope you have a gun to defend yourself
That's just plain ridiculous.
I remember in the late 90's early 2000's, San Diego was full of this kind of Meth. It is bad, bad, bad. Makes you crazy
I can understand getting addicted to something like narcotics that make you feel mellow, no pain, relieves anxiety, etc. But being on this stuff doesn't seem like a pleasant experience, so it mystifies me a bit.
Imagine having a pharmaceutical company produce these drugs and allow doctors to prescribe them with some sort of oversight no matter how minimal. The Cartels would go broke and the violence would go down by 90%.
I suspect it would go down like opiates did. Docs and Pharma get rich, create addicts, raise the price, cut the addicts off, then the cartels roar back…
@@annunacky4463 exactly
People like you don't understand the economics of this, that's why you want to legalize all drugs. You think the answer is as simple as legalization, and doesn't require responsibility. You want an easy out and an excuse for people who sell this deadly poison, it just isn't going to happen. Drug and poison laws have existed since Babylonian times, and will continue far into the future.
@@rs72098 You comment is highly flawed. First is that its illegal now and the war on drugs is a complete failure. We have drug dealers and cartels flourishing and selling unregulated drugs killing our kids and law enforcement by simply touching it being that its so concentrated. Look at what has happen with Marijuana being permitted by certain states! There has been a reduction in drug dealers selling it, regulated business instead conduct a professional service, and the tax revenue has brought theses states billions of dollard to fund schools and community needs. So to say to us "people like you don't get it" clearly showcases that your lack of reflection and understanding is what has brought us to such a dismal point in the first place. I'd take a long look in there mirror before your next "people like you" comment.
Having the best meth in commie land is actually a source of pride
@Eidelmania Democrats started the KKK and they wanted to continue with slavery they're also responsible for the Jim crow laws
Biden gave a eulage at a klansmans funeral he also said the guy was a Great man!
@Eidelmania Yea the fact they have bring up politics on a story like this just shows how sad they are as human beings.
Stop dividing each other, that's what the elites want and it's happening. If we talk too each other without using media terminology we all literally agree.
@@hoodparticles We are already divided, capitalism and communism are like water and oil.
@Eidelmania Did I trigger a progressive snowflake? If ur an AOC commie own it, I prefer capitalism and free markets
Years back I used to kill pain. Severe emotional pain. I was a care giver to a Godly angel that deserved back what she gave . My dad dated her daughter. They were mid 60s . For 9 years dad tried to get me fired . He said I was on drugs. She got biblical care. To get introduced to drugs as a kid at dad's house. Noone asked if I was ok or needed help. I treated that precious angel as I would want. Loved every minute of it. If I was loving and taking care biblically to her 9 solid years . I worked 7 days every week. Never getting a day off. Yes I did need help but noone carred. I moved past all the dangerous chemicals on my own. Most all never even Knew any of my journey . Mom said your eyes look funny. Bet so. Open 5 days. That was all. 2 not successful suicide attempts. Around family yet noone carred why I was throwing up . 20 pain pills will do it. God is good. I am better than ever again. Work , strong .love life entirely. Self love now that is when love is truly exciting. 2 people able to give what they have. Love
He said it is cheaper, yet the 20 dollar bag went from a couple days, to a couple minutes.
I wonder if what he meant was that the more expensive stuff back in the day, a line would last you a couple of days and now a line of this new stuff…really don’t do shit. I mean, you’re awake, but no happy like it used to be. Just psychotic when you keep trying to “get there”
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we didnt smoke it back then. we snorted. I remember spending 25 for a quarter gram and party all weekend. now 20 bucks smoking will last all weekend. i dont know. still chew my tounge though lol. if your ever in minnesota lets compare. :)
P2P being used to make meth is not a new idea. It's just a different type of meth made with P2P added.
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It’s got legs baby!!
@@daver2067 I prefer the legs of a college girl.
Do you think that Antifa = meth heads?
If it's so much stronger, why does this man say a twenty dollar bag only last 20 minutes vs 3 days?
its racemic its not "stronger" per se, it has more side effects
Wow... someone’s making p2p ... again. This isn’t new meth. It’s almost ORIGINAL METH🤦🏼♂️
Started laughing when she said new meth then p2p
It's junk meth half as strong as stuff made with cold meds
The precursor chemicals are made in China.
i grew up in america and could never understand the drug culture here. Living in a medicated dream state 24/7 would be a nightmare in hell for me.
Many people seek a medicated dream state due to trauma
Meth and crack addicts are the worst in terms of psychological effects of the habit. I am glad people are starting to talk about it openly without shame and judgment.
What they are talking about is....years ago . You could do meth for days and days and not freak out.. today's meth is giving people extreme psychosis almost immediately.....most of the fentanyl comes from China...they know it and it's killing more than ever today...wouldn't be surprised if this stuff is also coming from there.
Never thought I would have been a meth addict at some point but I'm sooo glad to be able to have gotten off it. Especially with how much it's taken over my city. One of the hardest things to get off of
I'm happy for you and wish you all the best there can be for you. Stay strong and clean- been there.
@@alripley5335 Been there twice and I'm still here
@@handlethis213 what makes it so addictive and hard to quit?
@@bill9923 Makes you feel like a superhero.
@@handlethis213 My brother uses it and sells it. I tried it a few times but I didn't like it at all. Guess I'm lucky. I didn't know what it was until after the fact. I can't believe my own brother gave me something so dangerous.
They said it used to be more potent ?
Thank you for making this story. It's been hard to watch the morale of the city degrade and feel the need to pit blame but here you have three guys who made it out. I wish them well and I hope their good will spreads to others.
So sad to see this in the pnw we have had this shit in Texas for a while sober myself 6 months the bug can bite anybody. One love yall.
Tweakers are entertaining but it doesn't appear that the local government cares enough to do anything about it.
Why do you dopes think it is always the government that needs to come save you?
Sorry government cant stop stupid how come one of you say anything about helping you say y doesnt a then you do it
Maybe they like to get high. Dont need some righteous do gooders coming around. Open up a drug zone and a no drug zone and pick where you want to go. Accommodate the people. "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
@@MadnessMotorcycle because I am a Democrat. From the womb to the tomb. Daddy Gov will take care of me. Pay me a salary, fix my teeth. And all i have to do is lay on Venice Beach, get high, drunk, and fornicate. Now why are you a Republican? Work hard and go to church? Hahaha! Have fun dick!
Jeff Spicoli: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
All I can say with me having 17 years clean off of Meth, is that you have to love yourself enough and have put yourself through crap that you would never do if you were clean that makes you dislike who you are well you are using. I can honestly say that, that I would have been dead by now.
things you have to give up for meth: sex, food, and sleep, I don't understand why people like it
Man you guys do anything, but leave. Abandon the society that makes you feel like these substances are what you need. Work together and build communities. Bring back older values of empathy and community and we can make life worth living again.
to leave you need a passport someting almost all addicts don't have
@@tyleruskating9874 leave as in abandon our society. This society makes us dependent and reliant on their illogical design. Im hoping to break from that.
I went through meth psychosis and don't wish it on anyone. When I went crazy...that killed my 5 month addiction for me. I been clean a year now. I do not miss that level of paranoia and delusions
You got half the city that believes the lie that these people are out on the streets purely because of COVID job losses or high rent. And until we can admit that this is a drug-fueled problem, it's only going to get worse as we insist on sweeping it under the rug. People will continue to overdose and our cities will continue to become too dangerous to live in or visit. We have to get a nationwide plan to get these people help, whether they like it or not.
Nothing has changed in Portland over the last 40 years, meth was big back in the 80s as well, the flats was full of it.
Drugs is all those people know.
Imagine if we had an education and public health campaign that focuses on honesty... Yes, there are drugs that will make you feel like Superman. These are the consequences.
I have a hard time working up empathy for people whose lives are ruined by the drug, I'm sure I should but I just don't. It isn't like these are defective Flinstone chewables. People looking for meth aren't looking to get their daily dose of vitamin C. That being said, I do have respect for those who manage to pull themselves back.
Your lowest point in life probably offers more security than some of the highest sober moments these meth users live with.
You don’t understand what it’s like to rely on a substance to survive. There’s is physically withdrawal. The mental part is even harder. Addiction rewires your brain. 75 percent of addicts don’t want to be addicts. Even after u stop your brain is never the same. The cravings are always there
Maybe a different perspective could help you. Most people think the opposite of addiction is sobriety. While technically it might be but the opposite of addiction for addicts is connection. Connection to their family, friends and their community. Many addicts don’t start off in life with connections to the world that are stable for various reasons. Being vulnerable to slightest upset they find a little comfort by using little by little and any good connection is lost from the stigmas as they use more and more. Under the influence of drugs and shame they find a new connection with other users. The connection to other users isn’t beneficial for them but it is more predictable than what they can see at the time. It’s not a place they end up in simply by choice. Most addicts want out of it but they don’t have many options. A decent rehab can cost $30k+ a month. State sponsored rehabs are overwhelmed and don’t have a good track record. All off that seems insurmountable to an addict.
Try talking to someone that has experienced addiction and found a way out and I guarantee their path out involves creating or restoring a connection with a better world. The other parts of getting out of the cycle are as varying the events leading up to addiction. Many are similar but none are the same. A good way to help create a connection to better world is to avoid stigmas in the community. Many addicts have lost all of their friends and family permanently so the only connection left is community. Addiction is everywhere and effects everyone directly/indirectly so if you can find a way to genuinely have empathy for people that are lost in addiction, you are helping your community.
@CBEdits No one asked you to comment, and yet you've posted numerous stupid comments. If anyone should start using meth, heroin, fentanyl, etc., it's you. Get started!
@CBEdits No evidence? Your own words are all the evidence needed! Now fire up the pipe, load that needle, and get to work!
That stuff is soul robbing poison and should never be messed with! So devastatingly sad :(
They are the stupid assholes that decriminalized that garbage and now they wanna cry about it.what did they think was gonna happen?the problem would magically disappear.fuck the worthless junkies.
@StraightUpTruth someone I loved very much got lost in that hell and never fully recovered even after getting off of it. Anyone who gets anywhere near that horrific drug will never be the same again.
True. Whether it's "regular" meth or "super" meth, it's all destructive.
Soul robbing poison...no doubt! That's just what it does... trying to stay clean!
@@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503 God bless you, James 🌹