New update just after release of video - Just few minutes ago customer service told, that Ikea Styrspel haves 3 years warranty like other Ikea gaming chairs.
Good to know as I just bought this thing. On the other hand there is a thing called expected lifespan of a produc here in Finlandt and with a gaming chair like this I'd guess it's about the same as your confirmed warranty. So if you use it in it's designed function the accountability of the manufacturerfor the product should be about the same as the 3 year warranty in this case. In my opinion you get a lot of chair for this price. By the way, the first thing I noticed about this chair at the store was about the coaster frame as the shape of it allows you to rest your feet on top of it. I like it. Works well with the changing seat- / back rest- / arm rest -angle for viewing of things, maybe not for productive work like typing.
@@randommtbing5631 Agreed on this one and it's best to find out what is warranty from local IKEA. First when I contacted em and they told, that there is no warranty - it felt impossible :D For leaning backwards posture caster is good, but in normal use I always keep my kneecap in 90 degrees and then I bumb my legs to that ... Time will tell how this lasts :) Big thx for your comment!
It is possible the warranty is not an indication of expected longevity but rather cost of materials for Ikea to replace? For example, perhaps the materials on the Markus are so cheap that it is affordable for Ikea to replace for a customer when faulty over a period of 10 yrs whereas it is more costly to replace parts for the Styrspel so they limit period to 3 yrs.
Hi! I'm also considering buying this chair. I tried out the display Styrspel at Ikea but it doesn't seem to glide easily even when you sit down... yes, it's a little bit easier to glide around sitting compared to when no one is sitting but it still seems difficult nonetheless. The wheels seem to be made out of rubber. I know at 5:16 on this video, you said that it's easy to glide but did it become more difficult to move later on?
Went to Ikea the other day to try out some office/gaming chairs as I’ve been desperately in need of one for a while. The main take away from the experience is just how important it is to try before you buy. For some context, I’m 6 foot 5 inches tall, have scoliosis (curvature of the spine), which has been surgically fused with metal rods and pins. My spine is bent into the shape of an S, and it curves outwards at the bottom. As a result of this, good lumbar support for me is absolutely critical. After looking online and at RUclips reviews, I thought I was going to end up with either the Markus or Jarvfjallet - and was also considering a much, much more pricey Secret Labs Titan Evo 2022 XL. When I tried the Jarvfjallet, I found the lumbar support okay - but the head support forcing my head forward too much, and the seat hard and unforgiving. The Markus was slightly better in the seat and headrest, but the lumbar support was absolutely diabolical. While I was there, I also tried the Huvudspelare, the Utespelare, the Matchspel, and even the most expensive Gruppspel - all of which I found offered inadequate support, and aggravated my back pain. This is where the Styrspel comes in. The height-adjustable lumber support offered the right amount of support exactly where I needed it. It doesn’t jut out too much for me, and it does that magic thing of being both supportive yet soft and comfy. The seat was also soft, yet not so soft that it leaves your back muscles compensating. The headrest also has just the right amount of firmness for me, it doesn’t stick out too far, and the height adjustability enables me to put it exactly where it’s needed. As a result, I’m now writing this while sitting on a Styrspel, as it was by far a way the best chair I sat on for me. The real moral of this story however is the importance in trying before you buy. The Styrspel is perfect for me - but it might not be perfect for everyone. I’m very pleased I didn’t end up going for a Secret Labs Titan, not that I’ve tried one. Do I have an criticism? Yeah - the wheels! They have their pros and cons; it’s nice to feel secure in one place while you’re working. But I would love to have the ability to move the chair while I’m not sitting on it without picking it up (you feel the heft of it more when you have a bad back). Another little thing: I don’t know if anybody else has experienced this, but the bolthole where the headrest and chair attach did not align at all for me. I had to drill the hole in the chair to make it wider, and disassemble the headrest mechanism completely in order to re-tap the thread in it. I can’t imagine I’m the only one who’s experienced this manufacturing issue. All in all however, this chair is an absolute life-saver for me, as it helps me be pain-free while I’m working. But to anyone looking at purchasing it, remember the golden rule: try before you buy.
Big thanks for nice reply! Yep - sometimes chair manufacturers attend to put too much curve forward on head and low back support - it might suit some, but not all. Best thing is to let it to be adjustable, so person can make it more comfortable depending on antropometrics. One thing i would also change is the wheels - regular good rolling ones would be more ideal solution perhaps to bigger population, but thats what they ended up. Yep - all needs to be tested out before buy and that's the recommendation in everything - too bad you cannot do it with all :D
Having been seating on this chair for a few days, I find that the Styrspel is more comfortable than what I have expected. The mesh material is especially credited for improving air ventillation and thus capable of being seated for long session without becoming sweaty. Further, the design and appearance of this chair is sharp and unique and distinguishes itself from the rest of Ikea office/gaming chairs. This chair is also egonomic in the sense that it matches my body curve well and provide sound head and lumbar support. Of course, this chair has some downsides which I wish to mention. First the incline angle of the headrest could not be adjusted and thus it seems to be a bit odd in that it forces your head to look forward. Second for the armrest they are too easy to rotate horizontally and there is no way to lock them. Third the mesh seatpad may seem a bit too hard and inflexible for some people (as compared with cushions) and it certainly offers me a quite different sitting experience as I have had before.
It's good, that ikea approached this chair with unique point of view and yep, it's gamery =D some of the choises have done Well, and with minor changes, it would be better. If i Could Change one thing, it would be free adjustment on backward movement - then it's bit easier to Find comfortable position to Lean on
the adjustable armrests are the vane of my existence with my current chair. I did not know Ikea had updated its chair offerings otherwise I would've tried this one.
Big thanks for your feedback - love it A LOT! Yep - always test unit before buy and luckily, all around the world are Ikeas, so head out for test try :) Tell me how it ended once you come back!
Had the chair since release and I either didn’t know or forgot about the armrest moving forwards/backwards. I’m 184cm and around 110kg and the chair already sagged, makes noise(lumbar support) and both armrests have their rubber cracked and pieces fall off. Will invest in a steel case gesture/leap v2 or Herman miller embody. I work from home, game and have online university so I sit 12h or more at the desk. Great review
Well - you have put that chair in to heavy use! Thx for your comment! Usually you don't see small things in front of you if somebody does not tell :D Your future chair will be solid choise .. It would be so nice to have that kind of chair for run :D
Yep, my guess is that Markus is more suitable for 175cm sized persons or shorter and it's a truly great buy for that prize. And they can be found also in second hand market, so if you don't need new one - check also that option :) Thanks for your feedback - loving it a lot!
I just got this chair. I was actually about to walk out with the Jarrfvjallet because it was slightly cheaper and couldnt decide but then this was in the deals section ready built for 160 GBP so i could not resist. At that price it was worth it although I loose the 3 year warranty and only get the standard 1 year. After speaking to one of the workers about the 10 year warranty (or sometimes 3 years) on chairs. Apparently it is not as it seems and it is really just a marketing gimmick. The terms and conditions are very shaky. It also may require for them to book in someone to come round to your house and assess it in the location it became non-functional. The date of the inspection could be a long time and also most time they do not give the go-ahead to proceed with the replacement. Anyway, I may post here in a few months or longer, if someone comes along and reminds me, and tell you how i am getting on with the Styrspel. At the moment it is great but I have only really just got it at my desk and had a long day of walking around IKEA! I am a slightly larger guy, and 6ft tall. What i didnt really test in store but am just realizing now is that the seat really doesn't like you sitting in an unorthodox position. This is both good and bad but I am used to sometimes leaning to the right or left or even putting my feet up and sitting cross-legged for a bit. This is just plain painful to do in this chair. We will see how i get on but i may feel quite restricted. Any feel free to remind me to post an update if you think it will help. Or tell me how crap the chair is after you having it for 2 months.
Great stuff there Alyx! Yep - replacement process might vary A LOT and in those points - if all is taking too much time, i would not like to wait for several weeks to get thing sorted up. It's important to test settings how they fit antropometrics - they all vary between individuals. But send me feedback once you have had if for few months - how was your "natural" way of sitting in here ;)
Alright sir its 2 months now and please tell us the pros n cons of this chair, been looking to pick this boi up but need to do more research of it from the owners.
@@yusufalfurqon4097 Retruned it. It got wildly uncomfortable so i picked up a markus and it is alot better. Not a huge fan of the markus armrests but other than that it is pretty good.
@@alyx4436 My brother got a markus chair at home, i tested it and it's great, but I saw this one too and didn't know what to choose. Your comment made me buy markus! THANKS !!!
I am just leaving a comment because I love how attentive each and every one of your answers is to people's comments. I just bought this chair second hand but new for pretty cheap $130 and I'm just sitting in it for a few hours. Not sure if it's as comfortable as I'd like it to be. Not being able to fall back recline in it to rest up my psoas but instead having to slide forward to do it I don't like. I might get used to it, or if it's that big of a deal I'll give it to my brother or use it as a second chair and I'll go and get one that reclines . It looks sexy thouhg, I got the red one. Purple one is sexy as well.
3min later just watched another review and it showed that I can recline when I pull the lever on the right outside. Well that officially settles it - the chair is worth every penny.
Hello - life as a small content creator is that you need to be precise with every answere, and sure - got plenty of time to write in here :D Not that much of hassle in my channel - atleast in english side. Yep - for that prize it's solid buy and as always - you don't need to buy everything new. Speaking of that - need to go trough my cabin's cos i have shitloads of conmaritus to DO :D Be safe and enjoy that purchase - well done m8!
thanks, this was very helpful :D I was thinking of getting this chair, but might wait a little to see if there are other options, the locking wheels aren't great imo.
Big thanks for your comment! Yep - those locking wheels share opinion, but i bet - you can easily replace em if needed. But you need to buy wheels before installing em. Don't have a clue how to get original wheels away if you install em and buy other wheels later on :D
Great review. I used to have a Herman Miller Mirra, which I regrettably sold and switched to a Håg Capisco. Recently I bought a Styrspel, and I really like the chair. The only thing I don't like (and actually really hate) is the locking wheels. I only weigh 56 Kgs so even when I sit in the chair, I have trouble moving it. Other than that, I think it's a great chair and I I'm so happy to be back on a chair with mesh seat.
@@StardustLegacyFighter it was the Mirra 1. And it's a long story, but in short i have back problems and was led to believe that the Capisco was better for my back... It turned out it wasn't. Pretty bad choice, I know. Anyway, that was ten years ago, and I bought the Mirra second hand. Second hand prices were lower back then.
@@kev_633 the Mirra was more sturdy. I think the mesh on Styrspel is just as good as the one on Mirra, but I don't know if it will be in the long run. I like the headrest on the Styrspel and that it has a mesh back rest. I don't remember if I could move the arm rests sideways on the Mirra, but I can't on the Styrspel. That thing I'm missing. And I still just hate the wheels on the Styrspel. However, for the money it's a no brainer (for me anyway). The Styrspel is a lot of bang for the buck.
Hi i bought this chair and i agree about the elbows rest that it should have adjustment about go down and up for diffrent leaning possitions, other what would be nice is the adjustment of the neck rest to go closer not only higher or lower. Legs are pretty big but i sometimes put my foots on it and i dont have problem with space they need. Overall this is preety good and not that expensive and the material will save me from summer sweating problem (i thing IT would😅). I give it 8/10 but i will came back after logner time to say more. Good video😎
Big thx for your message! Time will tell how sweaty summer is coming - in Finland, it´s still cold :D Lovely to get feedback - i hope to see you back here another time :)
I dont know if anyone will read this but only get this chair if you are tall and muscular (or atleast have a wide back) because its the only way it will fit you nice. As a very active gym guy i dont have the problem of the armrests
Nice review. I'm considering this chair but the warranty puts me off. And that lattice looks like it might be a problem in the long run since I like to put my legs under the chair.
If you are thinking this chair, ask local ikea what is your current warranty. If you wanna recieve Suggestion, check used market - there is always gems!
Terve Janne, I was wondering if you have had any chance to look at the new Ikea Grönfjäll chair, and if you could share your opinion on this new product? I fully understand that comfort and ergonomics are dependent on your height, weight and body style, but it would still be useful to have your opinion on the general product. I moved to Finland 3 months ago, and don't quite feel comfortable yet using second hand sites, so I'm mainly looking at Markus and grönfjäll ikea chairs at the moment. If you see this comment and have time to reply.. Kiitos :)
Hello! Thanks for your comment - currently don't got time to do review about that product, but if you live here in finland - you could send me email what city you currently live. I could search up second hand options in your area and give my recommendations aslong you provide me info about your weight and height - in message ;)
@@pt_sakkinen Wow! Thank you so much for the fast reply! That would be extremely helpful- I will send an email to the mail address in your RUclips profile description. Kiitos paljon!
Big thanks for your comment! I am trying to get my hands on different units too, so can have similiar videos coming out! I hope you like other content too :) Have a great year!
@@pt_sakkinen i think i am gonna get the cheaper version with leather seat from Ikea. Also gaming. Don't remember the name. It's like Markus but new version.
Thanks for the review! Bought this chair a couple of days ago after rocking Markus for 8 years (had to leave it when moved to another country). I have somewhat mixed opinion about this chair. The wheels are a pain indeed. I don't know what were they thinking. The armrests feel weird too. It seems I can never find a proper position for them. I feel like my elbows always sliding off them no matter the position. I can't quite put my finger on it, whether it's a psychological thing after getting accustomed to Markus' rigid armrests or is that due to that unusual somewhat spongy material on top of them-I don't know. Anyway, I'm not a fan - they feel wobbly and not very comfortable. Other than that, it's alright and looks neat indeed. Always thought these "racing" gaming chairs look downright stupid.
Big thanks for your comment! Yep - Markus was and is still solid chair and height adjustment range in that was great for me. Elbowrests were difficult for me too - better to take em off if they won't feel comfortable and rock with chair without em. I hope you have great year Zoomer - can i ask, where did you move to? :)
Interesting, I really did not like the Markus arms they are rigid and the rubber on them is like car tyre and too rough. I think the Jarrfvjallet had the best arms but these are fine for me, they allow me to wrest my elbows on them whilst gaming on both keyboard and mouse. I feel the headrest might be a little too far back but i may have to get used to it. If you think gaming racing chairs "look" stupid then you are lucky you have never "sat" in one for more than a couple months. If they arent already broken by then you back will be!
@@pt_sakkinen Sorry, it seems, I missed your reply! I moved to Norway :) @Alyx Oj Yeah, I wouldn't say Markus' armrests are the best in class or anything. I still believe it's the matter of getting accustomed to. By the way after a couple of months I've gotten more comfortable in it. Tried taking out the plastic wheel stops, but it didn't help much. Oh well. Oh and also a screw has fallen out of the front plastic seat frame (the one that came preassembled). I thought the frame itself became damaged but no, it went back into place alright. Not the end of the world, I know, but something to be aware of. And thanks for the remark about the "racing" chairs. That will ensure I won't slip and buy one in the future :D
Good question! I've sold my unit to friend of mine and still fabrique is holding on.. So it's not that weak what we might think but if you wear pants what have metal clips or something similiar, then they might take more damage :)
I dont understand why the Markus chair has been hyped so much. I had to return both the Markus and Matchspel and go with the JarvfJallet. Why? After using the Matchspel for only 4 days on an 8 hour shift, the issues I experienced are 1. Seat is not padded well - every 20 mins i feel like i need to get off the chair as the seat is not comfortable at all. Ive been using the Milberget chair for years and this is far more comfortable 2. When you recline there is a noise and its frankly annoying 3. The thread on the seat had come off a little. This is the threading located on the top of the seat, and you will see a small line Now with the Markus Initially it felt very comfortable. However you only realise when you work on in on an 8 hour shift. 1. If you do not lock the chair, the chair constantly makes a Clonk noise and its very frustrating when you're on a call to a customer and need to focus carefully 2. When you lock the chair, you still hear the clonk and it feels unstable at times 3. The seat depth is similar to the Matchspel and my legs are mostly not supported. I am 6'1, 90KG, and this chair just does not work. Reasons why I have settled on JarvfJallet 1. Seat depth adjustment. You can pull the seat pan out so it will help if you're 6 foot or above 2. The seat whilst being firm is much better than the Matchspel. See spec on ikea the padding is double compared to Both markus and Jarvfjallet and its real leather. It's not perfect as its on the firm side and I think it should he slighly softer by around 25% to make it perfect 3. Tilt is very smooth no noises when you recline and no clonk noise. There is only very slight movement when it is locked. Nothing compared to Markus. 4. Lumbar support is much nicer than Markus. If you dont recline on the Markus the lumber support is OK. As soon as you recline its in an awkward position. 5. Arm rests are better compared to Matchspel. Markus are the worst! Of course the JarvfJallet is not perfect at all but its by far the best ikea office chair in my opinion. I've tried all the gaming chairs in store and personally I would steer away from these. Only the Markus and JarvfJallet felt comfortable at store and to be fair the Markus had the initial wow factor, but day to day it just does not work. I'll be looking at the HM Embody and Steelcase gesture in the future when hopefully.I have moved house. The JarvfJallet is fine for now and I'll simply pass it on to the Mrs once we have moved, as she likes the look of it as we have the white version. My advise is to think long term. And unfortunately this may result in returning the chair. And, ikea have the worst return policy! You literally have to to argue with customer services and if you're lucky youll get store credit. I somehow managed to get the store credit but it involved hours of arguing, and speaking to the manager. For folks that dont know their policy, it's basically once opened, if its not a quality issue you must to keep it. And they will only exchange the chair for the same one if the chair has been damaged during assembly, and this is only if you have brought it using the ikea family card. Not great.
Great job there @irfanpatel564! In depth brief in there! As you mentioned, every chair have it's own flaws and you need to truly test em out to find out what is case in every chair. HM Embody or Steelcases chairs are at they're own league in price and in quality of product. HM would be lovely to see and test how do they manage - i've read a lot about em and watched few videos, but it would be best to have em in test run. Where do you live if i may ask?
Thanks for vid. Theres no locking mechanism to the stand? Doesnt the stand just fall off when you lift the chair? I tried the Markus but the deal breaker for me for this chair was that I couldnt move the seat backwards/forwards. Curious which is your main chair? I
Not really. I've found a far better one that was sold to my friend's company for £220, it's crazy good for the price. Unfortunately, we don't know the brand.
Hello my friend, thanks for the nice review .Im curious about your opınıon can you tell me Markus or Styrspel which one is ı should prefer ? I wıil use it for 5-6 hours for watching something and sometimes for playing games. Thx so much
They are all ok.. But best way to form opinion is to go ikea, adjust all of em to your liking and them figure out what is most perfect got to you. If you feel, that there is something wrong example in lumbar support, then dont buy it
@@pt_sakkinen I hope that youtube algorithm gods will help you grow, you made a good representation, pretty high quality video. And after playng a lot of MSC i love finnish accent :-DDDDDDD
Go to nearest Ikea to test em both. Remember to check videos how to settle up good posture and find out what fills your needs. If they are not good enough, then spend money on adjustable frame - change desk to top of motorized unit and you are good to go! :D
Does it have the same static charge issue as the Markus chair??? I'm thinking of getting rid of my Markus chair, because my monitor keeps switching of randomly
Sadly after using this chair for over a year I have a very poor experience. Expecially the lumbar support. I love the build quality and general looks, but the lumbar is extremly stiff and uncomfortable for me. This chair killed my lower back. I tried many adjustments thinking this is on me, but it does not apear to be the case.
That sad to hear! Well, for that prize point they cannot have all adjustments in world... But resell value should be there and then pick up something from second Hand market?
Can someone please help me in purchasing decision in highlighting the differences between Styrspel and Gruppspel. Which one should i go for. I need good seating and back support.
Hi, this chair is causing me some really bad backpain because of the lumbar support...do you know if there is a safe way to remove it without breaking it or the chair? Help is really appreciated!! Also short review: From looks the chair is amazing, comfortability is rather low because of the lumbar support, otherwise great chair
@@paulbart2301 hi paul, tbh i just removed the lumbar support with a saw & knife. The chair works perfectly fine without it and since then i didnt really experience any more pain. Hope it works yor you too, keep me updated haha
Hi, i need a chair like this. I am 185 cm 100 kg. Ikea Styrspel and ikea Markus at same price 215$. Which one would you suggest? and there is also JÄRVFJÄLLET 330$ but i am not sure is it worth to buy with this much price difference
Hello! Really hard question.. In your case - i would go to local Ikea to test em both out. I bet that Styrpel can go bit higher compared to Markus, but if height adjustments is same in both, then its good. Best way to test it out is to sit on both, adjust em to your needs and figure out what is more comfortable :)
I don't have chance to go local ikea because there is no one near at me. I have to order it online and never used chairs like this before. @@pt_sakkinen
I prefer chairs where you can adjust the backrest angle freely which alloweds more opportunities for adjustments. For a taller person or a person who has longer shin the chair would be more comfortable and a good option. For me the pressure under the kneekap was building up pressure causing discomfort, so a working day sitting in the chair would seem like a long day. If your frame is similiar to mine, I would suggest to seek out for another chair. In secondhand markets there are plenty of great choices. For example in this link - ruclips.net/video/S0ZKUMJ5L5s/видео.html you`ll find this kind of chairs can be found on secondhand markets and they are REALLY solid.
@@pt_sakkinen unfortunately it’s too late :( we are refugees in foreign country and unfortunately we don’t have a lot of money to buy chairs every few months :( and very sad that it’s not even close to aeron miller
@@shef_den Well, Aeron miller is way more expensive and in finland - we have Tori.fi - place where you can buy used furniture. That's my go to place to get stuff.. When u know what to search - then you can do good savings easily. But where do u live if i may ask?
New update just after release of video - Just few minutes ago customer service told, that Ikea Styrspel haves 3 years warranty like other Ikea gaming chairs.
Good to know as I just bought this thing. On the other hand there is a thing called expected lifespan of a produc here in Finlandt and with a gaming chair like this I'd guess it's about the same as your confirmed warranty. So if you use it in it's designed function the accountability of the manufacturerfor the product should be about the same as the 3 year warranty in this case. In my opinion you get a lot of chair for this price. By the way, the first thing I noticed about this chair at the store was about the coaster frame as the shape of it allows you to rest your feet on top of it. I like it. Works well with the changing seat- / back rest- / arm rest -angle for viewing of things, maybe not for productive work like typing.
@@randommtbing5631 Agreed on this one and it's best to find out what is warranty from local IKEA. First when I contacted em and they told, that there is no warranty - it felt impossible :D
For leaning backwards posture caster is good, but in normal use I always keep my kneecap in 90 degrees and then I bumb my legs to that ... Time will tell how this lasts :) Big thx for your comment!
That's terrible, considering that other chairs they've sold like the Markus came with 10 years warranty.
It is possible the warranty is not an indication of expected longevity but rather cost of materials for Ikea to replace? For example, perhaps the materials on the Markus are so cheap that it is affordable for Ikea to replace for a customer when faulty over a period of 10 yrs whereas it is more costly to replace parts for the Styrspel so they limit period to 3 yrs.
Hi! I'm also considering buying this chair. I tried out the display Styrspel at Ikea but it doesn't seem to glide easily even when you sit down... yes, it's a little bit easier to glide around sitting compared to when no one is sitting but it still seems difficult nonetheless. The wheels seem to be made out of rubber. I know at 5:16 on this video, you said that it's easy to glide but did it become more difficult to move later on?
This is the most detailed review of Styrspel at the moment, very clear and helpful, thanks a lot
Big thanks for feedback - yep, wanted to show goods and bads about this chair - they are popular :) i hope u got all info needed
Man, your review is amazing and thoughtful, thank you for all the effort!!
Big thanks for your comment! :)
Went to Ikea the other day to try out some office/gaming chairs as I’ve been desperately in need of one for a while. The main take away from the experience is just how important it is to try before you buy.
For some context, I’m 6 foot 5 inches tall, have scoliosis (curvature of the spine), which has been surgically fused with metal rods and pins. My spine is bent into the shape of an S, and it curves outwards at the bottom. As a result of this, good lumbar support for me is absolutely critical.
After looking online and at RUclips reviews, I thought I was going to end up with either the Markus or Jarvfjallet - and was also considering a much, much more pricey Secret Labs Titan Evo 2022 XL. When I tried the Jarvfjallet, I found the lumbar support okay - but the head support forcing my head forward too much, and the seat hard and unforgiving. The Markus was slightly better in the seat and headrest, but the lumbar support was absolutely diabolical.
While I was there, I also tried the Huvudspelare, the Utespelare, the Matchspel, and even the most expensive Gruppspel - all of which I found offered inadequate support, and aggravated my back pain.
This is where the Styrspel comes in. The height-adjustable lumber support offered the right amount of support exactly where I needed it. It doesn’t jut out too much for me, and it does that magic thing of being both supportive yet soft and comfy. The seat was also soft, yet not so soft that it leaves your back muscles compensating. The headrest also has just the right amount of firmness for me, it doesn’t stick out too far, and the height adjustability enables me to put it exactly where it’s needed. As a result, I’m now writing this while sitting on a Styrspel, as it was by far a way the best chair I sat on for me.
The real moral of this story however is the importance in trying before you buy. The Styrspel is perfect for me - but it might not be perfect for everyone. I’m very pleased I didn’t end up going for a Secret Labs Titan, not that I’ve tried one.
Do I have an criticism? Yeah - the wheels! They have their pros and cons; it’s nice to feel secure in one place while you’re working. But I would love to have the ability to move the chair while I’m not sitting on it without picking it up (you feel the heft of it more when you have a bad back).
Another little thing: I don’t know if anybody else has experienced this, but the bolthole where the headrest and chair attach did not align at all for me. I had to drill the hole in the chair to make it wider, and disassemble the headrest mechanism completely in order to re-tap the thread in it. I can’t imagine I’m the only one who’s experienced this manufacturing issue.
All in all however, this chair is an absolute life-saver for me, as it helps me be pain-free while I’m working. But to anyone looking at purchasing it, remember the golden rule: try before you buy.
Big thanks for nice reply! Yep - sometimes chair manufacturers attend to put too much curve forward on head and low back support - it might suit some, but not all. Best thing is to let it to be adjustable, so person can make it more comfortable depending on antropometrics. One thing i would also change is the wheels - regular good rolling ones would be more ideal solution perhaps to bigger population, but thats what they ended up. Yep - all needs to be tested out before buy and that's the recommendation in everything - too bad you cannot do it with all :D
Thank you for this review! Btw your accent is just amazing!
Big thanks for your comment.. Honestly, i never thought to hear that kind of comment =D if i may ask, where are you from? =D
@@pt_sakkinenyou're welcome! Im from Argentina ;)
Having been seating on this chair for a few days, I find that the Styrspel is more comfortable than what I have expected. The mesh material is especially credited for improving air ventillation and thus capable of being seated for long session without becoming sweaty. Further, the design and appearance of this chair is sharp and unique and distinguishes itself from the rest of Ikea office/gaming chairs. This chair is also egonomic in the sense that it matches my body curve well and provide sound head and lumbar support.
Of course, this chair has some downsides which I wish to mention. First the incline angle of the headrest could not be adjusted and thus it seems to be a bit odd in that it forces your head to look forward. Second for the armrest they are too easy to rotate horizontally and there is no way to lock them. Third the mesh seatpad may seem a bit too hard and inflexible for some people (as compared with cushions) and it certainly offers me a quite different sitting experience as I have had before.
It's good, that ikea approached this chair with unique point of view and yep, it's gamery =D some of the choises have done Well, and with minor changes, it would be better. If i Could Change one thing, it would be free adjustment on backward movement - then it's bit easier to Find comfortable position to Lean on
the adjustable armrests are the vane of my existence with my current chair. I did not know Ikea had updated its chair offerings otherwise I would've tried this one.
Thank you for this review mate! Made things clearer for me to decide to purchase this chair or not. Shall go on and try em out first.
Big thanks for your feedback - love it A LOT! Yep - always test unit before buy and luckily, all around the world are Ikeas, so head out for test try :) Tell me how it ended once you come back!
And what you done?
Had the chair since release and I either didn’t know or forgot about the armrest moving forwards/backwards. I’m 184cm and around 110kg and the chair already sagged, makes noise(lumbar support) and both armrests have their rubber cracked and pieces fall off. Will invest in a steel case gesture/leap v2 or Herman miller embody. I work from home, game and have online university so I sit 12h or more at the desk. Great review
Well - you have put that chair in to heavy use! Thx for your comment! Usually you don't see small things in front of you if somebody does not tell :D Your future chair will be solid choise .. It would be so nice to have that kind of chair for run :D
Fantastic video Janne
Big thanks Hugo!
Since I tried the Markus at IKEA I've been thinking on buying it. This review helps me a lot. Thank you for your effort and good advices.
Yep, my guess is that Markus is more suitable for 175cm sized persons or shorter and it's a truly great buy for that prize. And they can be found also in second hand market, so if you don't need new one - check also that option :) Thanks for your feedback - loving it a lot!
5:16 that setup you have there is cleeeean man. The AC cable can be tucked away better since it's in the way but everything else is on point 👌
Thx m8! Yeah - better to have outlet under table to keep all up clean .. Its always easier to tiding
I just got this chair. I was actually about to walk out with the Jarrfvjallet because it was slightly cheaper and couldnt decide but then this was in the deals section ready built for 160 GBP so i could not resist. At that price it was worth it although I loose the 3 year warranty and only get the standard 1 year. After speaking to one of the workers about the 10 year warranty (or sometimes 3 years) on chairs. Apparently it is not as it seems and it is really just a marketing gimmick. The terms and conditions are very shaky. It also may require for them to book in someone to come round to your house and assess it in the location it became non-functional. The date of the inspection could be a long time and also most time they do not give the go-ahead to proceed with the replacement. Anyway, I may post here in a few months or longer, if someone comes along and reminds me, and tell you how i am getting on with the Styrspel. At the moment it is great but I have only really just got it at my desk and had a long day of walking around IKEA! I am a slightly larger guy, and 6ft tall. What i didnt really test in store but am just realizing now is that the seat really doesn't like you sitting in an unorthodox position. This is both good and bad but I am used to sometimes leaning to the right or left or even putting my feet up and sitting cross-legged for a bit. This is just plain painful to do in this chair. We will see how i get on but i may feel quite restricted. Any feel free to remind me to post an update if you think it will help. Or tell me how crap the chair is after you having it for 2 months.
Great stuff there Alyx! Yep - replacement process might vary A LOT and in those points - if all is taking too much time, i would not like to wait for several weeks to get thing sorted up. It's important to test settings how they fit antropometrics - they all vary between individuals. But send me feedback once you have had if for few months - how was your "natural" way of sitting in here ;)
Alright sir its 2 months now and please tell us the pros n cons of this chair, been looking to pick this boi up but need to do more research of it from the owners.
@@yusufalfurqon4097 Retruned it. It got wildly uncomfortable so i picked up a markus and it is alot better. Not a huge fan of the markus armrests but other than that it is pretty good.
@@alyx4436 daymm, thanks for the info, gonna keep on searching for other option then
@@alyx4436 My brother got a markus chair at home, i tested it and it's great, but I saw this one too and didn't know what to choose. Your comment made me buy markus! THANKS !!!
Thanks for this complete review! Will try out the lumbar support and see if the elbow rests are too awkward for me.
they share opinions, so better try em out :)
I am just leaving a comment because I love how attentive each and every one of your answers is to people's comments. I just bought this chair second hand but new for pretty cheap $130 and I'm just sitting in it for a few hours. Not sure if it's as comfortable as I'd like it to be. Not being able to fall back recline in it to rest up my psoas but instead having to slide forward to do it I don't like.
I might get used to it, or if it's that big of a deal I'll give it to my brother or use it as a second chair and I'll go and get one that reclines .
It looks sexy thouhg, I got the red one. Purple one is sexy as well.
3min later just watched another review and it showed that I can recline when I pull the lever on the right outside. Well that officially settles it - the chair is worth every penny.
Hello - life as a small content creator is that you need to be precise with every answere, and sure - got plenty of time to write in here :D Not that much of hassle in my channel - atleast in english side.
Yep - for that prize it's solid buy and as always - you don't need to buy everything new.
Speaking of that - need to go trough my cabin's cos i have shitloads of conmaritus to DO :D
Be safe and enjoy that purchase - well done m8!
@@pt_sakkinen Thank you sir. You too!
Great Video, I'm going to check this chair out. Just wanted to say thank you for the vid.
Try it out in local ikea. If you find yourself comfortable with settings and adjustment, then its solid choise for that prize
thanks, this was very helpful :D
I was thinking of getting this chair, but might wait a little to see if there are other options, the locking wheels aren't great imo.
Big thanks for your comment! Yep - those locking wheels share opinion, but i bet - you can easily replace em if needed. But you need to buy wheels before installing em. Don't have a clue how to get original wheels away if you install em and buy other wheels later on :D
Great review.
I used to have a Herman Miller Mirra, which I regrettably sold and switched to a Håg Capisco.
Recently I bought a Styrspel, and I really like the chair. The only thing I don't like (and actually really hate) is the locking wheels. I only weigh 56 Kgs so even when I sit in the chair, I have trouble moving it. Other than that, I think it's a great chair and I I'm so happy to be back on a chair with mesh seat.
Matherial feels good and sorry for your Lost for previous chair =D i bet you can change those casters to regular one and that issue would be fixed!
What on Earth compelled you to sell the Mirra 2?
@@StardustLegacyFighter it was the Mirra 1. And it's a long story, but in short i have back problems and was led to believe that the Capisco was better for my back... It turned out it wasn't. Pretty bad choice, I know.
Anyway, that was ten years ago, and I bought the Mirra second hand. Second hand prices were lower back then.
How was the Mirra compared to this chair?
@@kev_633 the Mirra was more sturdy. I think the mesh on Styrspel is just as good as the one on Mirra, but I don't know if it will be in the long run.
I like the headrest on the Styrspel and that it has a mesh back rest.
I don't remember if I could move the arm rests sideways on the Mirra, but I can't on the Styrspel. That thing I'm missing. And I still just hate the wheels on the Styrspel.
However, for the money it's a no brainer (for me anyway). The Styrspel is a lot of bang for the buck.
Hi i bought this chair and i agree about the elbows rest that it should have adjustment about go down and up for diffrent leaning possitions, other what would be nice is the adjustment of the neck rest to go closer not only higher or lower. Legs are pretty big but i sometimes put my foots on it and i dont have problem with space they need. Overall this is preety good and not that expensive and the material will save me from summer sweating problem (i thing IT would😅). I give it 8/10 but i will came back after logner time to say more. Good video😎
Big thx for your message! Time will tell how sweaty summer is coming - in Finland, it´s still cold :D Lovely to get feedback - i hope to see you back here another time :)
Any updated thoughts?
how is the chair holding up?
I dont know if anyone will read this but only get this chair if you are tall and muscular (or atleast have a wide back) because its the only way it will fit you nice. As a very active gym guy i dont have the problem of the armrests
i will read bro! :D
Nice review. I'm considering this chair but the warranty puts me off. And that lattice looks like it might be a problem in the long run since I like to put my legs under the chair.
If you are thinking this chair, ask local ikea what is your current warranty. If you wanna recieve Suggestion, check used market - there is always gems!
Terve Janne, I was wondering if you have had any chance to look at the new Ikea Grönfjäll chair, and if you could share your opinion on this new product? I fully understand that comfort and ergonomics are dependent on your height, weight and body style, but it would still be useful to have your opinion on the general product.
I moved to Finland 3 months ago, and don't quite feel comfortable yet using second hand sites, so I'm mainly looking at Markus and grönfjäll ikea chairs at the moment.
If you see this comment and have time to reply.. Kiitos :)
Hello! Thanks for your comment - currently don't got time to do review about that product, but if you live here in finland - you could send me email what city you currently live. I could search up second hand options in your area and give my recommendations aslong you provide me info about your weight and height - in message ;)
@@pt_sakkinen Wow! Thank you so much for the fast reply! That would be extremely helpful- I will send an email to the mail address in your RUclips profile description.
Kiitos paljon!
thanks for the review, really helps
Big thanks for your comment! I am trying to get my hands on different units too, so can have similiar videos coming out! I hope you like other content too :) Have a great year!
Thank you! You just saved me a lot of money :)
Great! What were you planning to buy? :)
@@pt_sakkinen i think i am gonna get the cheaper version with leather seat from Ikea. Also gaming. Don't remember the name. It's like Markus but new version.
Thanks for the review! Bought this chair a couple of days ago after rocking Markus for 8 years (had to leave it when moved to another country). I have somewhat mixed opinion about this chair. The wheels are a pain indeed. I don't know what were they thinking. The armrests feel weird too. It seems I can never find a proper position for them. I feel like my elbows always sliding off them no matter the position. I can't quite put my finger on it, whether it's a psychological thing after getting accustomed to Markus' rigid armrests or is that due to that unusual somewhat spongy material on top of them-I don't know. Anyway, I'm not a fan - they feel wobbly and not very comfortable.
Other than that, it's alright and looks neat indeed. Always thought these "racing" gaming chairs look downright stupid.
Big thanks for your comment! Yep - Markus was and is still solid chair and height adjustment range in that was great for me. Elbowrests were difficult for me too - better to take em off if they won't feel comfortable and rock with chair without em. I hope you have great year Zoomer - can i ask, where did you move to? :)
Interesting, I really did not like the Markus arms they are rigid and the rubber on them is like car tyre and too rough. I think the Jarrfvjallet had the best arms but these are fine for me, they allow me to wrest my elbows on them whilst gaming on both keyboard and mouse. I feel the headrest might be a little too far back but i may have to get used to it.
If you think gaming racing chairs "look" stupid then you are lucky you have never "sat" in one for more than a couple months. If they arent already broken by then you back will be!
@@pt_sakkinen Sorry, it seems, I missed your reply! I moved to Norway :)
@Alyx Oj Yeah, I wouldn't say Markus' armrests are the best in class or anything. I still believe it's the matter of getting accustomed to. By the way after a couple of months I've gotten more comfortable in it.
Tried taking out the plastic wheel stops, but it didn't help much. Oh well.
Oh and also a screw has fallen out of the front plastic seat frame (the one that came preassembled). I thought the frame itself became damaged but no, it went back into place alright. Not the end of the world, I know, but something to be aware of.
And thanks for the remark about the "racing" chairs. That will ensure I won't slip and buy one in the future :D
Nice review man, I'm just curious how well it will hold it's quality/shape in a couple of years.
Good question! I've sold my unit to friend of mine and still fabrique is holding on.. So it's not that weak what we might think but if you wear pants what have metal clips or something similiar, then they might take more damage :)
I dont understand why the Markus chair has been hyped so much. I had to return both the Markus and Matchspel and go with the JarvfJallet. Why?
After using the Matchspel for only 4 days on an 8 hour shift, the issues I experienced are
1. Seat is not padded well - every 20 mins i feel like i need to get off the chair as the seat is not comfortable at all. Ive been using the Milberget chair for years and this is far more comfortable
2. When you recline there is a noise and its frankly annoying
3. The thread on the seat had come off a little. This is the threading located on the top of the seat, and you will see a small line
Now with the Markus
Initially it felt very comfortable. However you only realise when you work on in on an 8 hour shift.
1. If you do not lock the chair, the chair constantly makes a Clonk noise and its very frustrating when you're on a call to a customer and need to focus carefully
2. When you lock the chair, you still hear the clonk and it feels unstable at times
3. The seat depth is similar to the Matchspel and my legs are mostly not supported. I am 6'1, 90KG, and this chair just does not work.
Reasons why I have settled on JarvfJallet
1. Seat depth adjustment. You can pull the seat pan out so it will help if you're 6 foot or above
2. The seat whilst being firm is much better than the Matchspel. See spec on ikea the padding is double compared to Both markus and Jarvfjallet and its real leather. It's not perfect as its on the firm side and I think it should he slighly softer by around 25% to make it perfect
3. Tilt is very smooth no noises when you recline and no clonk noise. There is only very slight movement when it is locked. Nothing compared to Markus.
4. Lumbar support is much nicer than Markus. If you dont recline on the Markus the lumber support is OK. As soon as you recline its in an awkward position.
5. Arm rests are better compared to Matchspel. Markus are the worst!
Of course the JarvfJallet is not perfect at all but its by far the best ikea office chair in my opinion. I've tried all the gaming chairs in store and personally I would steer away from these. Only the Markus and JarvfJallet felt comfortable at store and to be fair the Markus had the initial wow factor, but day to day it just does not work.
I'll be looking at the HM Embody and Steelcase gesture in the future when hopefully.I have moved house. The JarvfJallet is fine for now and I'll simply pass it on to the Mrs once we have moved, as she likes the look of it as we have the white version.
My advise is to think long term. And unfortunately this may result in returning the chair. And, ikea have the worst return policy! You literally have to to argue with customer services and if you're lucky youll get store credit. I somehow managed to get the store credit but it involved hours of arguing, and speaking to the manager. For folks that dont know their policy, it's basically once opened, if its not a quality issue you must to keep it. And they will only exchange the chair for the same one if the chair has been damaged during assembly, and this is only if you have brought it using the ikea family card. Not great.
Great job there @irfanpatel564! In depth brief in there! As you mentioned, every chair have it's own flaws and you need to truly test em out to find out what is case in every chair. HM Embody or Steelcases chairs are at they're own league in price and in quality of product. HM would be lovely to see and test how do they manage - i've read a lot about em and watched few videos, but it would be best to have em in test run. Where do you live if i may ask?
@@pt_sakkinen I'm from the UK
Hello , if you are still using the chair since this video was released , how do you rate it now
Thank you
Nope! I gave it to friend of mine, but yep - it's still in use and all is ok in that chair :)
@@pt_sakkinen I’m just scared about the comfort and durability, did it do well till you gave it away ?
Much love
sick accent dude, i didn't English can be spoken like this lol
This is getting funny! :D I hope you understand what i am saying :D Big thx for your comment!
Thanks for vid. Theres no locking mechanism to the stand? Doesnt the stand just fall off when you lift the chair? I tried the Markus but the deal breaker for me for this chair was that I couldnt move the seat backwards/forwards. Curious which is your main chair? I
There is mechanism To height adjustment and its lockable. Markus haves solid spot To sit.. Nowadays i go with ongo active chair and håg capisco
in Hong Kong there are better ergonomic chairs for less but in the UK, probably the best you can find for £230
It would be so nice to have my hands on one of em to see adjustments and make video about it :)
Not really.
I've found a far better one that was sold to my friend's company for £220, it's crazy good for the price.
Unfortunately, we don't know the brand.
Hello my friend, thanks for the nice review .Im curious about your opınıon can you tell me Markus or Styrspel which one is ı should prefer ? I wıil use it for 5-6 hours for watching something and sometimes for playing games. Thx so much
They are all ok.. But best way to form opinion is to go ikea, adjust all of em to your liking and them figure out what is most perfect got to you. If you feel, that there is something wrong example in lumbar support, then dont buy it
Very good review, very helpful
Big thanks for you Tirack!
@@pt_sakkinen I hope that youtube algorithm gods will help you grow, you made a good representation, pretty high quality video. And after playng a lot of MSC i love finnish accent :-DDDDDDD
I'm torn between Markus and Styrspel, and I'm confused about which one I should buy, considering that I will use it 12-13 hours a day.
Go to nearest Ikea to test em both. Remember to check videos how to settle up good posture and find out what fills your needs. If they are not good enough, then spend money on adjustable frame - change desk to top of motorized unit and you are good to go! :D
great review! does the mesh on this chair have a chemical smell to it or anything like that?
Big thanks for your comment! as i can remember, nope there was not any chemical or artificial smell on it ...
Good informative review.
Big thanks for your commend and lovely to hear, that u liked it :)
Kiitos jäbä!
Hurjasti kiitos itsellesi =D
@@pt_sakkinen ihana maito hyvä! 🥰
Great review, when you are not sitting on the chair, you have too there also a gap between the seat and the plastic to support the thighs?
You want to have a lot of support for thighs, 2 fingers between kneecap and you are good to go
@@pt_sakkinen So,you have? Or
At back of chair, if i remember correctly, there was minor gap, but it was not bad at all
Does it have the same static charge issue as the Markus chair??? I'm thinking of getting rid of my Markus chair, because my monitor keeps switching of randomly
It needs to be something with fabricue.. So i would check details of both - have similiar matherial been used... I've never had that kind of issue
Sadly after using this chair for over a year I have a very poor experience. Expecially the lumbar support. I love the build quality and general looks, but the lumbar is extremly stiff and uncomfortable for me. This chair killed my lower back. I tried many adjustments thinking this is on me, but it does not apear to be the case.
That sad to hear! Well, for that prize point they cannot have all adjustments in world... But resell value should be there and then pick up something from second Hand market?
I'm not sure if you have a guitar, but if you do, can you please check if you'd be comfortable w/ playing a guitar w/ the arms?
sorry bro - drummer here =D
Perkelle!! Thanks bro😁
Thx M8! Are you Swedish? :D
@@pt_sakkinen no bro I’m from Netherlands, where are you from?
@@Real_vanGogh Finland - you need to check term Rally English - thats what i am talking :D Big thanks for dropping by!
@@pt_sakkinen hahahaha bro that’s funny. I looked it up and it’s basically just Finnish, but English 😂
Do you know how to disassemble it
Dont got that chair anymore.. But it should be easy, except removing central pipe from caster... That is usually tricky one
Can someone please help me in purchasing decision in highlighting the differences between Styrspel and Gruppspel. Which one should i go for. I need good seating and back support.
Best way to find it out is to go local Ikea to test em out. Every back is different!
Your mention about the elbow rests helped me a lot, I decided to not buy this chair. Thank you my friend for this great review!
Thx for feedback! Yeah, once all clicks in chair, you got good tool for years to Come :)
Is it sturdy? I hated the Jarfjallet, it was so rickety
I bet its quite similiar as Jarfjallet...
Yes mines is very noisy too.. I move about a lot which doesn't help.
Any idea what the weight limit is on this for us chunkies?
Dont have clue, but contact customer sevices - they know :)
Hi, this chair is causing me some really bad backpain because of the lumbar support...do you know if there is a safe way to remove it without breaking it or the chair? Help is really appreciated!!
Also short review: From looks the chair is amazing, comfortability is rather low because of the lumbar support, otherwise great chair
Hello! If it does not fit your antropometrics, then send i back and get one, where is good lumbar support :)
@@pt_sakkinen i have had this chair for a while and cant return it unfortunately. Do you know a way to remove the lumbar support?
@@noahj9602did you figure it out?? I’m having the same issues
@@paulbart2301 hi paul, tbh i just removed the lumbar support with a saw & knife. The chair works perfectly fine without it and since then i didnt really experience any more pain.
Hope it works yor you too, keep me updated haha
@@noahj9602 hahaha I think I’ll just return it. Cost me too much to do all that lol
is the styrspel better than the matchspel
I have not tried matchspel :(
Hi, i need a chair like this. I am 185 cm 100 kg. Ikea Styrspel and ikea Markus at same price 215$. Which one would you suggest? and there is also JÄRVFJÄLLET 330$ but i am not sure is it worth to buy with this much price difference
Hello! Really hard question.. In your case - i would go to local Ikea to test em both out. I bet that Styrpel can go bit higher compared to Markus, but if height adjustments is same in both, then its good. Best way to test it out is to sit on both, adjust em to your needs and figure out what is more comfortable :)
I don't have chance to go local ikea because there is no one near at me. I have to order it online and never used chairs like this before. @@pt_sakkinen
I don't have chance to go local ikea or ikea like shops because there is no one near me unfortunately :) I will order it from online. @@pt_sakkinen
How do you recline the chair?
You pull level and then you are able to do adjustments. Then you push level back in
bro what are the socks pls
www.happysocks.com/eu/ - they rock Hard!
There's a 3 year warranty in Canada for these chairs
Thx - good to know that =) i hope it was not terrible to listen for Canadian's ears =D
at 3:24 you can clearly see how the thigh pressure is not even. Same problem as Aeron, Mirra and other more high end chairs. Damn
Posture was on purpose really backward so i would not be using chair like that
@@pt_sakkinen well, you probably wouldn't, but it's one of the intended uses, so it should be doable
huh
In terms of general comfort, how did you find it? If you had to sit in it 8hrs a day could you?
I prefer chairs where you can adjust the backrest angle freely which alloweds more opportunities for adjustments. For a taller person or a person who has longer shin the chair would be more comfortable and a good option. For me the pressure under the kneekap was building up pressure causing discomfort, so a working day sitting in the chair would seem like a long day. If your frame is similiar to mine, I would suggest to seek out for another chair. In secondhand markets there are plenty of great choices. For example in this link - ruclips.net/video/S0ZKUMJ5L5s/видео.html you`ll find this kind of chairs can be found on secondhand markets and they are REALLY solid.
This isn't a task chair.
I have this chair for 3months and long sitting without any problems.. Its comfortable chair for me
@@StardustLegacyFighter This is not correct!!!
Do you know what should i do when this chair doesn't move back?
Do you mean, that you cannot adjust the backward leaning or what? :)
@@pt_sakkinen Nevermind :) I solved it
Can confirm.... the chair is great but the headrest is terrible
Yep, its akward =)
How tall are you? you sound like your from Norther Europe and should be 1.90m tall
Thx for compliment, but i am only 1.75m =D
I’m 168 cm tall and the chair felt comfortable at the lowest height unlike your comment.
Then perhaps you got long shins :)
what in the seven f*cks is this man saying. I tried listening to this in the background of a game, can't understand a word xD
It's called rally english :D
@@pt_sakkinen It was a lot easier to understand watching the subtitles 😅
@@Catbunz great! :D
Worst bought I had!!!
Return it and keep on searching..!
@@pt_sakkinen unfortunately it’s too late :( we are refugees in foreign country and unfortunately we don’t have a lot of money to buy chairs every few months :( and very sad that it’s not even close to aeron miller
@@shef_den Well, Aeron miller is way more expensive and in finland - we have Tori.fi - place where you can buy used furniture. That's my go to place to get stuff.. When u know what to search - then you can do good savings easily. But where do u live if i may ask?