@M J we can't all be melting in a corner of the internet feeding our hatred and self loathing by attacking all humanities creative endeavors. Some of us happen to love Star Wars because it embodies Hope.
I'm going to do something that I've never done before...I'm going to write a letter .... Dear Ben Solo, Wherever you are in the world we want to let you know me and all my friends in the Reylo community and Bendemption camp we want to let you know that we all love you and believe that you are capable of becoming and doing so much more for yourself and better. You do not have to pretend to be something you're not. No. Please come back to the light side and be the man you're meant to be to make your mama and daddy proud and help Rey save the galaxy oh and uh kick Palpatine's ass.
Great video, ladies! The marketing and interviews are definitely hinting at Reylo. I saw a tweet that JJ Abrams will be on Popcorn ABC News on Dec. 13 and there's a photo of him and the interviewer. In the background, there's a fan question from Instagram asking, "Is there going to be an epic kiss in this movie?" I can't wait to see what JJ responds! #reylo #reyandkylo #bendemption #savebensolo
I do agree that Daisy does seem way more comfortable talking about Reylo with the international press. I remember watching that cast interview at Galaxy's Edge and she was asked if Rey was Kylo's sister, and I always thought it was interesting that her answer was to basically say No because then the Reylo shippers would be shipping incest or something like that. It was just interesting to me that that was the first thing to come into her mind. I don't want Reylo to be subtle now is the time to either go big or go home. Looking forward to that predictions video. We are almost there everyone!
Her answer was sooo cool. JJ's smirk was even better. It was a smart answer that didn't give anything away. And yet, they talk about siblings and that's where her mind goes... It says something.
I also feel there is no justification on how much Rey hates him in the trailers as he did save her life from Snoke, I have a bad feeling about this movies plot
That leaked ending sucks. It all depends on execution, for sure, but it won't go too well. I don't trust that the leaks are 100% correct because leaks never are.
@@sweetsserenei I disagree. Kylo killed the closest person she had to a father figure, his own dad, tried to kill her multiple times, tried to kill Finn, attempted to forcefully probe her mind, AND refused any sort of redemption in TLJ.
@@SpaceCase1214 Not true he never tried to kill her once. He did indirectly try to kill her on Crait. The mins probe was an interrogation tactic used to get information for his cause in books he tells her he doesn't want to do that to her but she refuses to give up the map willingly. Also she then mind probes him and gets just as into as him. Jedi's have done this before. Harrison wanted the Han killing and he wanted it to be Kylo because he said it would serve a bigger purpose which is breaking the Darkside shell. In TLJ Kylo is broken over his murder and starta to regain his humanity back. He force pushed Rey when he saw she was hell bent on shooting him in his open wound given by Chewie he had to do so to defend himself and deal with Finn. He did not try and kill her then just incapacitate her. In the books he tells her I don't want to kill u stop fighting me. He then says he wants to teach her. Also he could have pushed her right off that cliff while she was mediating but Nope he didn't want to hurt her. Killing Snoke is redemptive and the future comics are showing there is a reason he is staying on the Dark side
As a Reylo shipper I'm super hyped for this film but I'm neverous about it. I really hope that Reylo is the endgame as a fan of Reylo since 2015 it was a dark time for me since I had to be quiet about supporting it. In TLJ I was very pleased with the reylostic scenes with it (though I had promblems with the film). Now with Rise of Skywalker coming out soon I'm shacking with neverous engery and excitement all the same. #reylo #kyloandrey #savebensolo
In the world press conference, in the Variety channel, they asked Adam Driver if Ben Solo is part of kylo Ren, he doesn't say anything, but... every member of the cast, one by one, turn their heads to hear how is he going to answer that question. That is a huge hint that we will see more about Ben Solo in this movie. If there will be a Bendemption with a happy ending or not, that is what we need to wait to see.
Even before you said Pirates of the Caribbean my mind went straight to Will and Elizabeth. They remind me so much of Ben and Rey I’m so many ways. Their ending is one of the most beautifully bittersweet endings I’ve ever seen, and I love it. But I think it’d break my heart if Ben and Rey ended up in the same position, after all the isolation they’ve suffered through throughout both their lives. Although, unlike Will and Elizabeth, they would have the advantage of the Force bond to stay connected to each other and bridge the distance (provided they maintain their power).
Oh and another round of applause for Adam Driver coming in to save the day with another cool interview response, on what Star Wars is actually about. 😎
Off topic for a sec...but how awesome was that new Wonder Woman 1984 trailer...wow...just wow I'm already ready for this movie to come out tomorrow I am not even kidding here it is like the perfect distraction whilst we wait for TROS.
I can't believe we're only less than 2 weeks away, it seems so surreal. I started listening to all your podcasts guys like almost 2 years ago and here we are now. The amount of info and interviews we're getting plus the TV spots is honestly getting overwhelming I just wanna watch the movie already. I personally loved the EW article about Kylo, I even ended up tearing up a little bit re-reading the facts about his life. The comparisons they made between him and his family (especially the Padmé and FALLING for the "wrong people" part!!!!). He deserves his happy ending so much, to finally start LIVING because I believe he had never really truly lived until now. About Reylo, there's also the fact that they pretty much debunked finnpoe already before the movie dropped, a really beloved ship, and finnrey too. However, correct me if I'm wrong, nobody has straight up said that Reylo definitely won't be romantically involved. They just keep highlighting how connected they are. Another ship of mine in the past was described literally as "two sides of something/the same coin" just like Reylo, and they ended up being endgame. Anyways, let's hope they actually came through with the only outcome that makes sense.
The only tweet that makes me nervous that they will kill Ben off is this "Kathleen, Chris and JJ had trouble writting the 3rd act until someone pointed out the reason there was trouble was because they didnt want star wars to end. 'They were right so we went back and wrote it'" this was from the press conference, also seen on SWNN. *sigh* please dont kill him. #savebensolo
Yikes. But then maybe they realized they didn't want Star Wars to end and realized they had to find a solution for it instead of considering finishing it... Let's hope. Killing the Skywalker line is too stupid for us to believe it just yet.
Literally this chanel and the WORdS CANNOT dESCRIBE HOW GOOD IT IS fanfiction "landscape with a blur of conquerors" by diasterisms have kept me SANE and ALIVE while waiting for the rise of skywalker, and its been one hell of a journey. I love when a new episode pops up, and sometimes I watch it multiple times when I'm studying and need some chatter in the background. I live in Italy and have no friends who are passionate about the sequel trilogy (or star wars in general), let alone Reylo. It brings me joy listening to you and all your theories and predictions, like I'm there with you, nodding and smiling and giggling. Simply put, thank you!
I will hate this movie if the leaks are right. That being said, it's not the end of the world and I still have the prequels which are everything imo. I didn't like Endgame and I survived that debacle so I am pretty sure I can survive another shitty ending. lol. :) I still remain hopeful, but I'm not gonna lie about how I feel if the leaks about the ending are right.
I dont want to sound funny in anyway but i have to say this, if this is the case, and that ends up being how you feel then you simply were never a "Star Wars Fan" to begin with. You were only a fan of the shipping aspect, thats all you get out of it.
@@RaikenXion You dont sound funny at all you sound ignorant...Not everyone has to like everything and there is nohing wrong with that..btw, my comment has nothing to do with shipping or reylo. Don't assume you only look silly.
I don't understand who thought it would be a good idea following the overwhelming success of Reylo in TLJ, to have Rey stay with Poe and Finn the whole movie and fucking fight Ben everytime?!
I know! It's so frustrating and that is why I am so nervous.. I am mad at JJ for forcing this Trio thing when no one was invested in it after The Last Jedi. Everyone wanted promo with Adam & Daisy. But no..
Oh yes I endorse Mary’s request we want more of “Reylo is coming tonight” 😂🤗❤️ thanks so much for the update girls!!! Love this and love you all 😘 so fun to share the excitement!!!!!!!!
As an American Reylo shipper, Im neverous about the Jedi Praxis leaks and other leaks. Concerning Ben Solo's death it just doesn't seem right. If Ben dies for Rey I'll accept it but I'll be sad all the same. I think we'll getting a Bendemption arch for Kylo. in Hollywood spotlight (no idea how credible it is) but the article is called "Lust in space", they had the Reylo relationship in it. And the how it ends section they put "in ways we can't begin to describe". I'm incredibly excited and nervous about this film, i won't lie.
The media is teasing too much about a romantic relationship between Rey and Kylo for it not to happen. They need to get this ending right and disappointing the Sequel Trilogy most enthusiastic fans is not the way to go about it. Plus, leaks are never 100% correct. Never. I'd be quite surprised if we don't see any explicit romantic Reylo in IX. That said, even the leaks point to a strong connection and Rey sacrificing himself for Rey, so it will happen, even if not as satisfying as one would hope. The idea of them killing Ben makes me scratch my head. Who in their right mind would end the Skywalker line and waste the opportunity of continuing the saga in the future? It makes no sense.
The thought of Rey Palpatine stealing the Skywalker name after Ben was just murdered by Palpatine, makes me as fucking sick as to what Dumb and Dumber did to Dany in GoT!
Yeah, imagine having Rey conclude the Skywalker saga by defeating Palpatine alone. Imagine what people who already think she's a Mary Sue are going to think... It won't go well.
Kylo won't die and even if he does, I think Rey will use a healing force power to bring him back to life, perhaps in classic Disney fashion by giving him a kiss on the lips, alluding to the title of the movie, The Rise of Skywalker, similar to a phoenix rising from the ashes
I have no hope for this movie. It's sad how far we've fallen. We were so convinced Reylo was a certainty and were only arguing over what kind of Reylo we'd want. Now we're just praying Ben survives!
So the antis protest. I would dislike that ending but protesting a movie is just a weird concept. Kylo Ren will die. Ben Solo will rise out of the hole that "just kept getting bigger" Even the way the leak is written it's a joke. He falls into a hole, never to be heard from again... "it's a trap" enough said.
Since I am in Europe I will see the movie on the 18th at 10 am. I desperately want Reylo to happen but no matter what goes on in the media the last few days I no longer think we will get it. Bendemption will happen. But I don’t think there will be a kiss. I don’t think either of them will talk about love. And I think they will go and kill off Kylo after he redeems himself. He will probably sacrifice himself to save Rey. It will be depressing and sad and I will spend the next months reading Fanfiction with alternative endings.
If Disney kills of main characters, this company isn't worth the name anymore. I'm an as anxious European, and I also don't hope for Reylo anymore. But if Disney stay with its tropes, there's a big chance that Ben will survive. I'm thinking of the movie Pocahontas II, where John Smith falls into the abyss and suddenly returns later in the movie. Unfortunately, Pocahontas will get together with another John, which makes me think of Poe. I could imagine that Ben is rather a character like Elsa. Perhaps he is really in love with Rey, but I think he's the dramatic redeemed villain who will spend the rest of his life doing good things.
I don't think that will happen. Look how fast and directly they debunked "Poefinn". A magazine also said "it's not clear whether their connection will have a romantuc basis". They would NEVER tease this if it weren't going to happen. Also Chris terrior the co. writer said they developes Rians idea even futher. In TLJ spots we also got the impression that Rey and Luke will have something speicial not Rey and Kylo. And theg would never let them stand close to each other in each cover if they wouldnt be go something on. So don't worry, if they would show too much in the TV spots it would be too spoilery. And remember that the only dialog we got from Kylo was a comforting word to Rey. They defenetly will build on their romance otherwise they wouldnt be so careful with the marjeting and would always hint on the romance for casual fans. That is a smart move if Disney and always was.
You've been paying more attention to the leaks than the marketing. Leaks are fun, but they should never replace logic and common sense. The marketing team knows that if they keep pumping Reylo and it doesn't happen in the movie, a lot of people will be disappointed. I don't see why they'd do it unless they're really dumb. If they don't go Reylo they'll also end up with a wishy washy movie that doesn't fully satisfy anyone. JJ said some people would love the movie and some would hate it. I'm betting there will be romantic Reylo. I could be wrong, for sure, but we've been right in the past.
@@felicity1877 And Poe and Rey there isn't even a big connection between in the leaks. If there would be they could have used the comics to show deep emotion between them if they dont use marketing to show them in magazines. But that is not the case at all. They even portayed that Rey dislikes Poe fir his arrogant take of her ability in the beginning. People were upset that Poe would treat Rey like that and Poe fans weren't satisfeid with that. Its more possible that Reyfinn would happen than ReyPoe and it has been debunked.
They interviewed the whole cast (sans Adam) at Disney World right after they saw the movie. The cast has a bad reaction when asked something like, "with just a facial expression, show us your reaction to the ending of the movie." It was a really bad reaction like they hated it. I'm hoping they were prompted by the powers that be to do that.
@@dayleitaobooks From the interview I really think it was right after. JJ was looking around at what everyone might do. Then Naomi Ackie had the most interesting of the responses. The question starts here ruclips.net/video/nJSNn7wGiIo/видео.html
@@audreyplaysnice2086 I remember it, and it was before they watched it. And it was just some goofy faces. That said, after they watched it they talked about crying... So there will be emotional moments. But the leaks can't be all true because stupid deaths are not emotional.
Concerning Ben dying: If it were to be done in good taste and in a meaningful way I would be ok with it (although very sad..) BUT what would the point of that be? Just Vader all over again and what kind of epic conclusion to the Skywalker saga would that be? Then they could have just left it with the OT and not have done the sequels at all. No, it has to be something else and the only logical and otherwise satisfying conclusion would be that he lives and redeems himself. I don’t know if we’ll get a Reylo happy ending but I’m sure that we’ll get bendemption. Maybe it will be a somewhat open ending with Ben vanishing , or him going on a journey to find himself and atone for his sins. Maybe even with Rey..👀
Yeah, for me the biggest problem with Kylo dying would be the end of the family line. And Star Wars is about family. I don't think Disney would have the guts to gut the Skywalker family. That said, a meaningful death could be emotional and beautiful. I won't hate it. But still, ending the Skywalkers? That's rough and pointless.
I think with Kylo saying in TFA I will finish what you started. I think it’s foreshadowing Ben will keep those he loves from dying. Think he will cheat death in some way.
If you read the leaks, there's still bendemption, and there's still Reylo (Ben sacrifices himself for Rey), it's just not overtly romantic but it's still there and it's still the core of the movie, just like we've been predicting for years. Subtle Reylo without any explicit romantic gesture is not the end of the world. The movie won't be as satisfying, but it can be still meaningful and beautiful. And at the end of the day, we were still right that the plot was about Kylo's redemption based on his connection with Rey. We can get a wishy washy movie but we'll still be right.
I think the Cast is a lot more comfortable with European and non-american Journalists because, at least in europe it is guaranteed that everyone can say his opinion and whatever he wants, without being afraid that ANYONE (a.k.a. really no one, neither an international Concern, nor an private Man) is allowed to censor you. The Cast is briefed what they are allowed to say and what not, I think they get a Script what they should say and what not and there are specific Consequences they have to fear because Disney has a lot of Power in the American Filmindustry. And something like these Scripts are not allowed in Europe, that is marked as Censorship. So if anyone of the Cast would have to fear some kind of Consequence (specially Domhnall Gleeson, John Boyega and Daisy Ridley because they are fom Ireland/Britain [Brexit is still in Air and not done yet]) they could go to an european lawyer and fight for their right of free Speech with a very good possibility to win. And the Censorship would still be in Charge for American Media, but not for European Media. And a legal dispuit like that would be bad press and Disney doesn't want that, so the Cast is a lot more at ease with non-american Press, because they know Disney doesn't have the same amount of Power over these Journalists, like they have in America. Unfortunately, since 9/11 the freedom of Press, Speech and information isn't as guaranteed as it once was, here is a Picture from Reporters without Borders which shows the actual situation of Freedom of Press and information in the world and it is really frigthening to see. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders#/media/File:Press_freedom_2019.svg There are more important Matters than entertaiment for Journalism to report (like the actual situation in Regions of War), but if you have to fear Consequences for free speech on such a little basis, I think that is really alarming.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast It was just meant as a possibility, not really an explanation. that Part of your discussion just reminded me what I read recently about free Speech and Press in general and I thought it is a good theory.
Lucas has stated Star Wars is a fairy tale and that it is a story about hope, love, forgiveness, and redemption.The D23 Special Look trailer points us in that direction, as do the breadcrumbs C3PO drops about friendship and others drop about the Force bringing them all together, and the emphasis on family. Combined with Lucas and his vision for the trajectory of this fairy tale, we have Disney in on this storyline as well--the happy ending people. This story will not end with the princess not getting her prince; that was Padme's storyline in order to transition us to a New Hope. There is nothing to transfer to after TROS, supposedly. If Kylo dies, it will be so he can be reborn. Look at Campbell's hero's journey formula. The hero suffers a "death" (Han in Carbonite) so he/she can be reborn. I am hoping the storyline follows the Beauty and the Beast formula, or the Snow White formula, or the Sleeping Beauty formula where true love via a kiss, a tear, a Force power--maybe all three--will awaken Kylo, and he will resurrect as Ben Solo-Skywalker. Daisy has suggested that Rey can do all kinds of cool things with her new powers, and I am hoping that means bringing Ben Solo back to the living. Rey is not going to be left looking past the horizon at a sunset with no one by her side. She is not going to be hugging Finn as the planet she is left on is annihilated in a First Order fiery furnace. On the other hand, should Rey die, Kylo Ren is not going to continue on as the Supreme Leader of the dark side, if that were the case, the saga could have ended with TLJ, so perhaps the trope will be flipped and Kylo will resurrect Rey. These two characters have unfinished business, and it's not to continue fighting each other or go down in a blaze of glory fighting together to defeat Palps. I believe their relationship is meant to heal what has broken the Skywalker potential and that does not translate to a tragic end. Nine more days and counting! I appreciate the Lords of the Sith keeping us going until then.
I can't see it happening I think they will team up against palps but I think after the scenes of her trying to kill him many times and her hatred it Appears in the trailers it would feel weird to the audience to make them love each other. Daisy is either lying about having hope for Kylo or she was misquoted because the trailers do not show that. Its a shame but I really don't see how it can be done. And her behavior in the trailers is really off putting am I the only one put off?
The trailers are supposed to entice people to watch the movie. I personally don't care for the trailers anymore they aren't nearly as well done as previous episodes. If we are getting exactly what is implied with the trailers that would be a first. It seems that in past trailers there was a lot of misdirection in them. Maybe Kylo and Rey really do have a angry passionate kiss in the rain. Nothing is really showing it won't happen or that it will but it's weird to market that fight at face value without something else going on in that scene. I don't want to be naive about this since nothing really is showing Reylo as a positive in the marketing imo. Not to my standards anyway. I also wonder how episode ix will effect Galaxy's edge if Bendemption does happen with him living. What would that exactly look like.
Ok I there’s something I have to talk about right now and I promise not to be long and not curse as much. Over the last few days during the press, the way certain things have been brought up and comments coming from actors in the interviews that have occurred that started a real blow out and explosion within the fandom and the way people have been reacting whether its the the Poe/Finn relationship , the words that Oscar Isaac, John Boyega and even Daisy Ridley chose to use in interviews when it comes to the last Jedi, the fandom, diversity and yes I am going to say it...(Takes a deep breath ) Politics yes that too the ultimate taboo of topics that starts world war three on the Internet and the way a number of people not just from the usual cartoon characters and circus clowns (Fandom menace , and the ever so cringy woke-avists and the double cringy anti SJW folks that go to the next level ) but yeah it’s not just coming from those people but also people who are supposed to be positive or at least set a better example. And it’s just so sad and absolutely pathetic to see this turn into a three wing circus the press tours should be fun and they still are but I can’t ignore the constant infighting and attitudes coming from a number of people that are going beyond the negative nancies so much that I just wish this was all over today and we can just go to the big Hollywood and London premiere and go straight to the movie and call it a day. Sorry this was long but again it’s just sad to me that today we live in a world we live in a culture that people today get so easily bent out of shape, and over react to the enth degree. We live in a society where we can’t just agree to disagree especially with such heavy duty subjects that always start an argument no matter what side you’re on. And... I just wish it wasn’t so messy I wish people would just calm down and not be so quick to get upset and I wish these interviewers didn’t have to bring up questions or subjects that start arguments within five seconds right after. Again sorry for making it so long but I just need to get this off my chest because it’s been annoying to me for some time. All right I’ll stop here, and have a great day thank you for hearing me out and I love you all.
Reylo is the most stupid thing in Star Wars. Silly little girls not even fans of Star Wars wanting nothing more than Adam Driver to get with Rey even though, he has tried to kill her, stalked her, tried to kill her friends, killed his father in front of her... honestly these Reylo people are going to cry so much when TRoS releases and you dont get what you want, itll be hilarious and I cant wait!
Can't wait either! You're a Star Wars fan, right? We're little girls. I'm sure you have better ideas and more correct predictions than we do, and I'm curios to see your superior opinions. Write them down in a comment. We love discussion. Can't wait to see what you predicted correctly for the previous movies either. Let us know!
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast Reylo isnt a prediction of mine. JJ (the director) has said as much that their force connection will be touched upon in the film but that them being together isnt a thing, this is a Disney production, they arent going to let their female lead date someone who has literally tried to kill her, her friends and murdered his father, they arent going to promote abusive relationships in their movie with a Disney logo attached. Also the latest leak seems to be very accurate, Kylo dies at the end.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast Because this is the end of the SKYWALKER Saga, it makes zero story sense for Kylo (A Skywalker) to live beyond the movie, hes also done some terrible things like murdering his father and almost blowing up his mother, he has to die.
Christmas is coming early, guys. 13 days until Reylo!!!!!🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎁🎁🎁🎁
Ben Solo must live!!!
Ben Solo must live! Rey can't fuck a Force ghost.
That's an interesting argument.
I don't understand how the people at Good Morning America knew the term "Bendemption", but not Reylo?!
I love you all, let's just swim in this ocean of reylo!
And get a yacht.
@M J we can't all be melting in a corner of the internet feeding our hatred and self loathing by attacking all humanities creative endeavors. Some of us happen to love Star Wars because it embodies Hope.
Ben and Rey will BOTH take the Skywalker name.
I agree!
I'm going to do something that I've never done before...I'm going to write a letter .... Dear Ben Solo, Wherever you are in the world we want to let you know me and all my friends in the Reylo community and Bendemption camp we want to let you know that we all love you and believe that you are capable of becoming and doing so much more for yourself and better. You do not have to pretend to be something you're not. No. Please come back to the light side and be the man you're meant to be to make your mama and daddy proud and help Rey save the galaxy oh and uh kick Palpatine's ass.
Great video, ladies! The marketing and interviews are definitely hinting at Reylo. I saw a tweet that JJ Abrams will be on Popcorn ABC News on Dec. 13 and there's a photo of him and the interviewer. In the background, there's a fan question from Instagram asking, "Is there going to be an epic kiss in this movie?" I can't wait to see what JJ responds! #reylo #reyandkylo #bendemption #savebensolo
I do agree that Daisy does seem way more comfortable talking about Reylo with the international press. I remember watching that cast interview at Galaxy's Edge and she was asked if Rey was Kylo's sister, and I always thought it was interesting that her answer was to basically say No because then the Reylo shippers would be shipping incest or something like that. It was just interesting to me that that was the first thing to come into her mind. I don't want Reylo to be subtle now is the time to either go big or go home. Looking forward to that predictions video. We are almost there everyone!
Her answer was sooo cool. JJ's smirk was even better. It was a smart answer that didn't give anything away. And yet, they talk about siblings and that's where her mind goes... It says something.
I love your episodes. I still have faith in Reylo. But it doesn't matter how this saga will end, Im gonna cry anyway.
Oh, yeah.
Nobody should be defending this movie if the leaks are true. There is no justification for Ben dying at all.
I also feel there is no justification on how much Rey hates him in the trailers as he did save her life from Snoke, I have a bad feeling about this movies plot
@@sweetsserenei Me too
That leaked ending sucks. It all depends on execution, for sure, but it won't go too well. I don't trust that the leaks are 100% correct because leaks never are.
@@sweetsserenei I disagree. Kylo killed the closest person she had to a father figure, his own dad, tried to kill her multiple times, tried to kill Finn, attempted to forcefully probe her mind, AND refused any sort of redemption in TLJ.
@@SpaceCase1214 Not true he never tried to kill her once. He did indirectly try to kill her on Crait. The mins probe was an interrogation tactic used to get information for his cause in books he tells her he doesn't want to do that to her but she refuses to give up the map willingly. Also she then mind probes him and gets just as into as him. Jedi's have done this before. Harrison wanted the Han killing and he wanted it to be Kylo because he said it would serve a bigger purpose which is breaking the Darkside shell. In TLJ Kylo is broken over his murder and starta to regain his humanity back. He force pushed Rey when he saw she was hell bent on shooting him in his open wound given by Chewie he had to do so to defend himself and deal with Finn. He did not try and kill her then just incapacitate her. In the books he tells her I don't want to kill u stop fighting me. He then says he wants to teach her. Also he could have pushed her right off that cliff while she was mediating but Nope he didn't want to hurt her. Killing Snoke is redemptive and the future comics are showing there is a reason he is staying on the Dark side
I was having a bit of a holiday blues, but your podcast gave me the Christmas Reylo spirit back!❤🎁
As a Reylo shipper I'm super hyped for this film but I'm neverous about it. I really hope that Reylo is the endgame as a fan of Reylo since 2015 it was a dark time for me since I had to be quiet about supporting it. In TLJ I was very pleased with the reylostic scenes with it (though I had promblems with the film). Now with Rise of Skywalker coming out soon I'm shacking with neverous engery and excitement all the same. #reylo #kyloandrey #savebensolo
It'll be okay. J. J. has shipped Reylo since before it was cool.
Same!
@@molliethomas2585 well....
In the world press conference, in the Variety channel, they asked Adam Driver if Ben Solo is part of kylo Ren, he doesn't say anything, but... every member of the cast, one by one, turn their heads to hear how is he going to answer that question. That is a huge hint that we will see more about Ben Solo in this movie. If there will be a Bendemption with a happy ending or not, that is what we need to wait to see.
#BenSoloMustLive
Two things: I’m DYING to watch the movie in approx a week & Ben Solo CANNOT die... 🙈 Period.
Even before you said Pirates of the Caribbean my mind went straight to Will and Elizabeth. They remind me so much of Ben and Rey I’m so many ways. Their ending is one of the most beautifully bittersweet endings I’ve ever seen, and I love it.
But I think it’d break my heart if Ben and Rey ended up in the same position, after all the isolation they’ve suffered through throughout both their lives. Although, unlike Will and Elizabeth, they would have the advantage of the Force bond to stay connected to each other and bridge the distance (provided they maintain their power).
I've actually been watching the pirates movies for some time.
Oh and another round of applause for Adam Driver coming in to save the day with another cool interview response, on what Star Wars is actually about. 😎
He was brilliant. He's commited to his character and to his movies. It's great.
Off topic for a sec...but how awesome was that new Wonder Woman 1984 trailer...wow...just wow I'm already ready for this movie to come out tomorrow I am not even kidding here it is like the perfect distraction whilst we wait for TROS.
I can't believe we're only less than 2 weeks away, it seems so surreal. I started listening to all your podcasts guys like almost 2 years ago and here we are now. The amount of info and interviews we're getting plus the TV spots is honestly getting overwhelming I just wanna watch the movie already. I personally loved the EW article about Kylo, I even ended up tearing up a little bit re-reading the facts about his life. The comparisons they made between him and his family (especially the Padmé and FALLING for the "wrong people" part!!!!). He deserves his happy ending so much, to finally start LIVING because I believe he had never really truly lived until now.
About Reylo, there's also the fact that they pretty much debunked finnpoe already before the movie dropped, a really beloved ship, and finnrey too. However, correct me if I'm wrong, nobody has straight up said that Reylo definitely won't be romantically involved. They just keep highlighting how connected they are. Another ship of mine in the past was described literally as "two sides of something/the same coin" just like Reylo, and they ended up being endgame.
Anyways, let's hope they actually came through with the only outcome that makes sense.
I'm in Australia so will be amongst the first to see it, can't wait!!
Yay!
The only tweet that makes me nervous that they will kill Ben off is this "Kathleen, Chris and JJ had trouble writting the 3rd act until someone pointed out the reason there was trouble was because they didnt want star wars to end. 'They were right so we went back and wrote it'" this was from the press conference, also seen on SWNN. *sigh* please dont kill him. #savebensolo
Yikes. But then maybe they realized they didn't want Star Wars to end and realized they had to find a solution for it instead of considering finishing it... Let's hope. Killing the Skywalker line is too stupid for us to believe it just yet.
All this hype is killing me, I won't survive until December 19
You will, you will!
Thanks, Denise! Thanks, Mary! ☯️ #ILoveStarWars
Literally this chanel
and the WORdS CANNOT dESCRIBE HOW GOOD IT IS fanfiction "landscape with a blur of conquerors" by diasterisms
have kept me SANE and ALIVE while waiting for the rise of skywalker, and its been one hell of a journey. I love when a new episode pops up, and sometimes I watch it multiple times when I'm studying and need some chatter in the background.
I live in Italy and have no friends who are passionate about the sequel trilogy (or star wars in general), let alone Reylo. It brings me joy listening to you and all your theories and predictions, like I'm there with you, nodding and smiling and giggling.
Simply put, thank you!
I will hate this movie if the leaks are right. That being said, it's not the end of the world and I still have the prequels which are everything imo. I didn't like Endgame and I survived that debacle so I am pretty sure I can survive another shitty ending. lol. :) I still remain hopeful, but I'm not gonna lie about how I feel if the leaks about the ending are right.
I dont want to sound funny in anyway but i have to say this, if this is the case, and that ends up being how you feel then you simply were never a "Star Wars Fan" to begin with. You were only a fan of the shipping aspect, thats all you get out of it.
@@RaikenXion You dont sound funny at all you sound ignorant...Not everyone has to like everything and there is nohing wrong with that..btw, my comment has nothing to do with shipping or reylo. Don't assume you only look silly.
Great video, girls! Can't wait for the movie!
I don't understand who thought it would be a good idea following the overwhelming success of Reylo in TLJ, to have Rey stay with Poe and Finn the whole movie and fucking fight Ben everytime?!
I know! It's so frustrating and that is why I am so nervous.. I am mad at JJ for forcing this Trio thing when no one was invested in it after The Last Jedi. Everyone wanted promo with Adam & Daisy. But no..
@@tuki6364 Exactly! Nobody cares about any of those characters. All we want is Reylo! It's so simple!
It's not the whole movie, it's a few scenes. I think it's going to be fun.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast It's four fights and basically everytime they interact ends up with them fighting each other which is ridiculous.
Oh yes I endorse Mary’s request we want more of “Reylo is coming tonight” 😂🤗❤️ thanks so much for the update girls!!! Love this and love you all 😘 so fun to share the excitement!!!!!!!!
It should be #ReyAndBen 😊😉
The trailers and tv spots: 😠😠😠😠
The movie probably: 🥺🥺🥺🥺
As an American Reylo shipper, Im neverous about the Jedi Praxis leaks and other leaks. Concerning Ben Solo's death it just doesn't seem right. If Ben dies for Rey I'll accept it but I'll be sad all the same. I think we'll getting a Bendemption arch for Kylo. in Hollywood spotlight (no idea how credible it is) but the article is called "Lust in space", they had the Reylo relationship in it. And the how it ends section they put "in ways we can't begin to describe".
I'm incredibly excited and nervous about this film, i won't lie.
The media is teasing too much about a romantic relationship between Rey and Kylo for it not to happen. They need to get this ending right and disappointing the Sequel Trilogy most enthusiastic fans is not the way to go about it. Plus, leaks are never 100% correct. Never. I'd be quite surprised if we don't see any explicit romantic Reylo in IX. That said, even the leaks point to a strong connection and Rey sacrificing himself for Rey, so it will happen, even if not as satisfying as one would hope. The idea of them killing Ben makes me scratch my head. Who in their right mind would end the Skywalker line and waste the opportunity of continuing the saga in the future? It makes no sense.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast thanks for the reassurance ladies. i just can't help be nervous though.
If he dies I will die with him 💔
The thought of Rey Palpatine stealing the Skywalker name after Ben was just murdered by Palpatine, makes me as fucking sick as to what Dumb and Dumber did to Dany in GoT!
Yeah, imagine having Rey conclude the Skywalker saga by defeating Palpatine alone. Imagine what people who already think she's a Mary Sue are going to think... It won't go well.
Kylo won't die and even if he does, I think Rey will use a healing force power to bring him back to life, perhaps in classic Disney fashion by giving him a kiss on the lips, alluding to the title of the movie, The Rise of Skywalker, similar to a phoenix rising from the ashes
Yeah, that's quite possible. A symbolic death would go well for his character, but if he came back to life it would be much better.
You got me thinking about Tangled
"It's not about what we deserve it's about what we believe and I believe in love"
Hello there!
How do you do that?
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast The Force. Duh!
Just saw it, and I I think the reylo is strong with this one
It is, right? And it's beautiful!
I have no hope for this movie. It's sad how far we've fallen. We were so convinced Reylo was a certainty and were only arguing over what kind of Reylo we'd want. Now we're just praying Ben survives!
You fell in a pit for...
Well, you know the rest.
Chill.
@@johannaledesma5301 Everyone better protest if that happens.
So the antis protest. I would dislike that ending but protesting a movie is just a weird concept. Kylo Ren will die. Ben Solo will rise out of the hole that "just kept getting bigger" Even the way the leak is written it's a joke. He falls into a hole, never to be heard from again... "it's a trap" enough said.
Since I am in Europe I will see the movie on the 18th at 10 am. I desperately want Reylo to happen but no matter what goes on in the media the last few days I no longer think we will get it. Bendemption will happen. But I don’t think there will be a kiss. I don’t think either of them will talk about love. And I think they will go and kill off Kylo after he redeems himself. He will probably sacrifice himself to save Rey. It will be depressing and sad and I will spend the next months reading Fanfiction with alternative endings.
If Disney kills of main characters, this company isn't worth the name anymore. I'm an as anxious European, and I also don't hope for Reylo anymore. But if Disney stay with its tropes, there's a big chance that Ben will survive. I'm thinking of the movie Pocahontas II, where John Smith falls into the abyss and suddenly returns later in the movie. Unfortunately, Pocahontas will get together with another John, which makes me think of Poe. I could imagine that Ben is rather a character like Elsa. Perhaps he is really in love with Rey, but I think he's the dramatic redeemed villain who will spend the rest of his life doing good things.
I don't think that will happen.
Look how fast and directly they debunked "Poefinn". A magazine also said "it's not clear whether their connection will have a romantuc basis". They would NEVER tease this if it weren't going to happen. Also Chris terrior the co. writer said they developes Rians idea even futher. In TLJ spots we also got the impression that Rey and Luke will have something speicial not Rey and Kylo. And theg would never let them stand close to each other in each cover if they wouldnt be go something on.
So don't worry, if they would show too much in the TV spots it would be too spoilery. And remember that the only dialog we got from Kylo was a comforting word to Rey. They defenetly will build on their romance otherwise they wouldnt be so careful with the marjeting and would always hint on the romance for casual fans. That is a smart move if Disney and always was.
You've been paying more attention to the leaks than the marketing. Leaks are fun, but they should never replace logic and common sense. The marketing team knows that if they keep pumping Reylo and it doesn't happen in the movie, a lot of people will be disappointed. I don't see why they'd do it unless they're really dumb. If they don't go Reylo they'll also end up with a wishy washy movie that doesn't fully satisfy anyone. JJ said some people would love the movie and some would hate it. I'm betting there will be romantic Reylo. I could be wrong, for sure, but we've been right in the past.
@@felicity1877 Poe and Rey is not happening.
@@felicity1877 And Poe and Rey there isn't even a big connection between in the leaks. If there would be they could have used the comics to show deep emotion between them if they dont use marketing to show them in magazines. But that is not the case at all. They even portayed that Rey dislikes Poe fir his arrogant take of her ability in the beginning. People were upset that Poe would treat Rey like that and Poe fans weren't satisfeid with that. Its more possible that Reyfinn would happen than ReyPoe and it has been debunked.
22.14 I could never get into the idea of Jacen and Jaina - all more good reasons to drop the old EU stories.
Just a quick question to all of you ahead of the movie, would you be satisfied if Rey and Ben kiss at the end but then he dies?
Will solo family bloodline continue with reylo ?
Hopefully. It's also the Skywalker line.
They interviewed the whole cast (sans Adam) at Disney World right after they saw the movie. The cast has a bad reaction when asked something like, "with just a facial expression, show us your reaction to the ending of the movie." It was a really bad reaction like they hated it. I'm hoping they were prompted by the powers that be to do that.
It was before they watched it. That said, after they watched it they said to bring tissues.
@@dayleitaobooks From the interview I really think it was right after. JJ was looking around at what everyone might do. Then Naomi Ackie had the most interesting of the responses. The question starts here ruclips.net/video/nJSNn7wGiIo/видео.html
GoT all over again
@@audreyplaysnice2086 I remember it, and it was before they watched it. And it was just some goofy faces. That said, after they watched it they talked about crying... So there will be emotional moments. But the leaks can't be all true because stupid deaths are not emotional.
Amazing Guy I am so afraid of that! I loved GoT, but the ending just left me, meh.
Concerning Ben dying: If it were to be done in good taste and in a meaningful way I would be ok with it (although very sad..) BUT what would the point of that be? Just Vader all over again and what kind of epic conclusion to the Skywalker saga would that be? Then they could have just left it with the OT and not have done the sequels at all. No, it has to be something else and the only logical and otherwise satisfying conclusion would be that he lives and redeems himself. I don’t know if we’ll get a Reylo happy ending but I’m sure that we’ll get bendemption. Maybe it will be a somewhat open ending with Ben vanishing , or him going on a journey to find himself and atone for his sins. Maybe even with Rey..👀
Yeah, for me the biggest problem with Kylo dying would be the end of the family line. And Star Wars is about family. I don't think Disney would have the guts to gut the Skywalker family. That said, a meaningful death could be emotional and beautiful. I won't hate it. But still, ending the Skywalkers? That's rough and pointless.
Lords of the Sith Podcast exactly!
I think with Kylo saying in TFA I will finish what you started. I think it’s foreshadowing Ben will keep those he loves from dying. Think he will cheat death in some way.
what will reylos do when its not in the movie? you can disregard the leak all day long. what if it wasnt a lie like reylos hope?
If you read the leaks, there's still bendemption, and there's still Reylo (Ben sacrifices himself for Rey), it's just not overtly romantic but it's still there and it's still the core of the movie, just like we've been predicting for years. Subtle Reylo without any explicit romantic gesture is not the end of the world. The movie won't be as satisfying, but it can be still meaningful and beautiful. And at the end of the day, we were still right that the plot was about Kylo's redemption based on his connection with Rey. We can get a wishy washy movie but we'll still be right.
I think the Cast is a lot more comfortable with European and non-american Journalists because, at least in europe it is guaranteed that everyone can say his opinion and whatever he wants, without being afraid that ANYONE (a.k.a. really no one, neither an international Concern, nor an private Man) is allowed to censor you. The Cast is briefed what they are allowed to say and what not, I think they get a Script what they should say and what not and there are specific Consequences they have to fear because Disney has a lot of Power in the American Filmindustry. And something like these Scripts are not allowed in Europe, that is marked as Censorship. So if anyone of the Cast would have to fear some kind of Consequence (specially Domhnall Gleeson, John Boyega and Daisy Ridley because they are fom Ireland/Britain [Brexit is still in Air and not done yet]) they could go to an european lawyer and fight for their right of free Speech with a very good possibility to win. And the Censorship would still be in Charge for American Media, but not for European Media. And a legal dispuit like that would be bad press and Disney doesn't want that, so the Cast is a lot more at ease with non-american Press, because they know Disney doesn't have the same amount of Power over these Journalists, like they have in America.
Unfortunately, since 9/11 the freedom of Press, Speech and information isn't as guaranteed as it once was, here is a Picture from Reporters without Borders which shows the actual situation of Freedom of Press and information in the world and it is really frigthening to see. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders#/media/File:Press_freedom_2019.svg
There are more important Matters than entertaiment for Journalism to report (like the actual situation in Regions of War), but if you have to fear Consequences for free speech on such a little basis, I think that is really alarming.
Not sure if it would be based on Free speech in the case of talking about a movie... But it's a theory, for sure.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast It was just meant as a possibility, not really an explanation. that Part of your discussion just reminded me what I read recently about free Speech and Press in general and I thought it is a good theory.
@@Ilargizuri it is interesting, and it's interesting to see how people in different countries deal with information.
Lucas has stated Star Wars is a fairy tale and that it is a story about hope, love, forgiveness, and redemption.The D23 Special Look trailer points us in that direction, as do the breadcrumbs C3PO drops about friendship and others drop about the Force bringing them all together, and the emphasis on family. Combined with Lucas and his vision for the trajectory of this fairy tale, we have Disney in on this storyline as well--the happy ending people. This story will not end with the princess not getting her prince; that was Padme's storyline in order to transition us to a New Hope. There is nothing to transfer to after TROS, supposedly. If Kylo dies, it will be so he can be reborn. Look at Campbell's hero's journey formula. The hero suffers a "death" (Han in Carbonite) so he/she can be reborn. I am hoping the storyline follows the Beauty and the Beast formula, or the Snow White formula, or the Sleeping Beauty formula where true love via a kiss, a tear, a Force power--maybe all three--will awaken Kylo, and he will resurrect as Ben Solo-Skywalker. Daisy has suggested that Rey can do all kinds of cool things with her new powers, and I am hoping that means bringing Ben Solo back to the living. Rey is not going to be left looking past the horizon at a sunset with no one by her side. She is not going to be hugging Finn as the planet she is left on is annihilated in a First Order fiery furnace. On the other hand, should Rey die, Kylo Ren is not going to continue on as the Supreme Leader of the dark side, if that were the case, the saga could have ended with TLJ, so perhaps the trope will be flipped and Kylo will resurrect Rey. These two characters have unfinished business, and it's not to continue fighting each other or go down in a blaze of glory fighting together to defeat Palps. I believe their relationship is meant to heal what has broken the Skywalker potential and that does not translate to a tragic end. Nine more days and counting! I appreciate the Lords of the Sith keeping us going until then.
I can't see it happening I think they will team up against palps but I think after the scenes of her trying to kill him many times and her hatred it Appears in the trailers it would feel weird to the audience to make them love each other. Daisy is either lying about having hope for Kylo or she was misquoted because the trailers do not show that. Its a shame but I really don't see how it can be done. And her behavior in the trailers is really off putting am I the only one put off?
The trailer are less than 5 minutes of the movie. She has reasons to be angry. And then maybe there's something to dark Rey.
The trailers are supposed to entice people to watch the movie. I personally don't care for the trailers anymore they aren't nearly as well done as previous episodes.
If we are getting exactly what is implied with the trailers that would be a first. It seems that in past trailers there was a lot of misdirection in them. Maybe Kylo and Rey really do have a angry passionate kiss in the rain. Nothing is really showing it won't happen or that it will but it's weird to market that fight at face value without something else going on in that scene. I don't want to be naive about this since nothing really is showing Reylo as a positive in the marketing imo. Not to my standards anyway.
I also wonder how episode ix will effect Galaxy's edge if Bendemption does happen with him living. What would that exactly look like.
Hola coma esta! Mucho gusto
I think the leaks are true :(
this film is done
Ok I there’s something I have to talk about right now and I promise not to be long and not curse as much. Over the last few days during the press, the way certain things have been brought up and comments coming from actors in the interviews that have occurred that started a real blow out and explosion within the fandom and the way people have been reacting whether its the the Poe/Finn relationship , the words that Oscar Isaac, John Boyega and even Daisy Ridley chose to use in interviews when it comes to the last Jedi, the fandom, diversity and yes I am going to say it...(Takes a deep breath ) Politics yes that too the ultimate taboo of topics that starts world war three on the Internet and the way a number of people not just from the usual cartoon characters and circus clowns (Fandom menace , and the ever so cringy woke-avists and the double cringy anti SJW folks that go to the next level ) but yeah it’s not just coming from those people but also people who are supposed to be positive or at least set a better example. And it’s just so sad and absolutely pathetic to see this turn into a three wing circus the press tours should be fun and they still are but I can’t ignore the constant infighting and attitudes coming from a number of people that are going beyond the negative nancies so much that I just wish this was all over today and we can just go to the big Hollywood and London premiere and go straight to the movie and call it a day. Sorry this was long but again it’s just sad to me that today we live in a world we live in a culture that people today get so easily bent out of shape, and over react to the enth degree. We live in a society where we can’t just agree to disagree especially with such heavy duty subjects that always start an argument no matter what side you’re on. And... I just wish it wasn’t so messy I wish people would just calm down and not be so quick to get upset and I wish these interviewers didn’t have to bring up questions or subjects that start arguments within five seconds right after. Again sorry for making it so long but I just need to get this off my chest because it’s been annoying to me for some time. All right I’ll stop here, and have a great day thank you for hearing me out and I love you all.
Well, press tour will be over soon and then we'll enjoy the movie!
Yes we will. I’m sorry I sound like a Debby downer
@@Rey20171 it's normal. Maybe it's also cause people are getting stressed.
It feels like a big family eventuate my sisters wedding this year or Thanksgiving but when in doubt Baby Yoda-It-Out
That and I think they just don’t want to re-live last Jedi gate all over again in a way
SW should have written better scripts and character development instead of lame casino scenes and awkward crying Rose Tico
Yeah, I personally love TLJ but wish there had been someone to work on the script with RJ. It could have been a much stronger and more cohesive movie.
Reylo is the most stupid thing in Star Wars. Silly little girls not even fans of Star Wars wanting nothing more than Adam Driver to get with Rey even though, he has tried to kill her, stalked her, tried to kill her friends, killed his father in front of her... honestly these Reylo people are going to cry so much when TRoS releases and you dont get what you want, itll be hilarious and I cant wait!
Can't wait either! You're a Star Wars fan, right? We're little girls. I'm sure you have better ideas and more correct predictions than we do, and I'm curios to see your superior opinions. Write them down in a comment. We love discussion. Can't wait to see what you predicted correctly for the previous movies either. Let us know!
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast Reylo isnt a prediction of mine. JJ (the director) has said as much that their force connection will be touched upon in the film but that them being together isnt a thing, this is a Disney production, they arent going to let their female lead date someone who has literally tried to kill her, her friends and murdered his father, they arent going to promote abusive relationships in their movie with a Disney logo attached. Also the latest leak seems to be very accurate, Kylo dies at the end.
@@rhysj36 I see your point. Just curiosity, as a longtime Star Wars fan, why does it satisfy you to see the Skywalker line end?
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast Because this is the end of the SKYWALKER Saga, it makes zero story sense for Kylo (A Skywalker) to live beyond the movie, hes also done some terrible things like murdering his father and almost blowing up his mother, he has to die.
Reylo is an abusive relationship, you really want that? This whole Reylo thing is a disease