Reylo in The Last Jedi
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In today's episode Denise and Lee talk Reylo in The Last Jedi. We go through Kylo and Rey's scenes together in TLJ and break down the Force bond. Spoiler alert: we don't think that Snoke created the bond between them. We also talk sex in TLJ: sexual imagery, symbolism and undertones underlying the conflict and connection between Rey and Kylo.
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Reylo in The Last Jedi: Why their story isn't over
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Reylo is done so well. It is very childlike. I love the way he looks at her, with big eyes. To me the way they are portraying Reylo is being done as a very traditional fairytale. The kiss between Ben and Rey will come at the end of episode 9, just like most traditional fairytales do.
"even The Force ships reylo at this point" reasons why i fucking love this channel
"Force Skype" another reason
rey keeps looking for a father but chewie been there all along he take her to jedi school and drop her off at her boyfriend he don't approve of. chewbacca is rey real father
Emperor Xander #DadChewie
Rey straight up mails herself to kylo in a box
I guess you can say she...
Shipped herself to him
I SHIP IT LIKE FEDEX
Lmao
In regards to whether or not Ben/Kylo was 100% loyal to Snoke when he brought Rey to him. It's also important to remember that at the beginning of the movie, when Kylo is first meeting with Snoke, he tries to stand up to Snoke only to get blasted by Force lightening. Kylo's allegiance starts to turn in that scene after he's been degraded and abused by Snoke, he's finally had enough. He killed his father, who he did not hate, for Snoke, but that wasn't enough for Snoke. So when Rey, the first person who he's had a legitimate, non-abusive connection with in years, shows up and is being mistreated by Snoke and, Snoke started taking credit for the one good thing to happen to Kylo in years, it's the final straw.
Lauren McInnis
Tweaking a bit, he killed his dad for Snoke as you said. He didn't hate him but he did it to show loyalty and that he follows him yet it got Kylo nowhere with Supreme Leader and nowhere with himself emotionally. Which is also why he was so mad at Snoke: " did everything you've asked of me/me to do", "did it without hesitation"
Yet Snoke still dogged him. Don't forget how Snoke gave a good comment about Hux before that right. Someone Kylo doesn't like at all.
So it was damage all around. Oh, and dogged out his mask.
So Kylo probably felt he'll be a monkeys uncle before he does another "kill them" deed for Snoke, esp someone he does feel something for, just to end up getting raw-dogged again.
Yes, this makes sense considering Han was directly criticising Snoke as well so it was a display of allegiance.
Lauren McInnis THIS 👏!!!
Lauren McInnis I'm not sure if Kylo killed Han for Snoke. It seemed more to me that he thought it was the last unforgivable act that would finally strip away any doubts within himself and commit him to the dark. It didn't work. It just broke him some more.
I think when she got to the ship he knew instinctively he had to keep his facial expressions neutral and control and conceal what he was thinking bc of Snoke. So in the elevator he’s looking straight ahead until she says his name, then we get a little reaction which I think is partly because it’s the first time she has said his real name to him. I love that he doesn’t correct her. Then during Snokes interrogation of Rey he’s playing it really cool. He’s probably concentrating on trying to conceal his feelings and intentions hidden. He doesn’t seem to react much until she’s up in the air screaming. His eyes flick up to her and it looks like he’s concerned and angry (his bae ❤️ needs him) and is getting ready to act.
That moment when Rey tosses her light saber to Kylo and he 'finishes' and then gets this intense look on his face. Wow... Even as a Reylo shipping since TFA, the movie shocked me on so many levels. I didn't expect sexuality to be discussed in Star Wars at all - specially not within Reylo. At best, I thought if Reylo was supposed to happen, it would be implied at the end of IX. But it wasn't and I was shocked. I watched the movie with my husband. And even to a guy it was obvious that there is attraction coming from both of them. I awkwardly asked him if Rey will still be paired with someone else and he laughed - saying its impossible to top Kylo.
yahoosodapop yeahhh..ikr..totally agree with you..
yahoosodapop
Your hubby is 100% right. It IS impossible to top Kylo
yahoosodapop It’s totally true though! There really is no one else who can stand up to Kylo. The two are literally soulmates in the Force! You can’t top that.
Yes!!
Wetness is another sexual metaphor used a couple of times.
First time is after one of their force bond moments in the rain, and Kylo wipes the liquid from his face. Then the camera zooms in on his fingers also covered in wetness.
There's also the "cave of puberty" where Rey discovers her sexual awakening, and comes out soaking wet, hair down, and telling this to a boy she snuck into her room.
Then there's the "fingering" motion of Kylo's two fingers that he uses to summon the phallic lightsaber, which Rey immediately grabs.
At first, Rey tells Luke she's going to try to turn Ben to the light so he can be an ally to the Resistance. But, her intentions are much deeper than that. No one would risk their life by flinging their space pod into a First Order ship unless it's for someone you have strong feelings for. When the pod opens and you see Rey's face when she sees Ben, it's all written there. They were both so alone for so long, the force connection was enough to bring them together. Then she enters his personal space in the elevator and when she says his real name for the first time, his eyes react and almost seem to flicker. After the lightsaber dual, you'll notice that once Ben extends his hand to Rey and asks her to join him, she already starts to cry at this point even before he mentions that her parents were nobodies. Why cry for someone you were only there to recruit for your cause? I think it was beautifully done. Loved this video, as always!
Maria Miles Yesssssssss, thank you for stating this! 😍
PREACH
Pieter Leemans It wasn't a lie? The future did come true in a sense. Rey foresaw that Ben would turn against Snoke and stand with her. That came true. The problem is Rey *misunderstood* the force vision. As did Ben (although I personally believe Ben's force vision has not occurred yet). Rey's understanding of her vision was that Ben turns against Snoke and stands with Rey because he has turned back to the light. And if we take a look back at the other films, the force vision would always come true. Unfortunately, visions are difficult and nearly impossible to interpret because the person's emotions tend to cloud their judgement.
As has been pointed out by many people who have analysed the fight scene in the throne room, when Rey leans back on Ben, their pose forms something akin to a yin and yang symbol, her light grey Jedi robes against his darker uniform, her stable blue light sabre raised up while his unstable red one is held low. Since that symbol is iconically associated with notions of complimentary forces held in balance in Eastern mythology - most famously the balance between male and female - it has widely been interpreted as a hint that their combat against Snoke's Praetorian Guards is a glimpse of how powerful they will become when they embrace their shared role of bringing Balance to the Force. The Yin and Yang symbol is also sometimes seen as embodying love across a divide that brings two people together to form a whole greater than its constituent parts. make of that what you will...
They aren't bringing balance to the Force. That was accomplished by Anakin..maintaining balance or stabilizing it more is probably more apt.
I don't actually agree with you on that Scott B - Anakin killed Palpatine and thus removed the Dark Side's immediate source of influence in the galaxy at the time, allowing for the New Republic to rise, but then what happened? Snoke and the First Order rose as a response to the New Republic, and as a reaction to the First Order we got the Resistance. That isn't balance, that is the continuation of a cycle of conflict where first one side of the Force is in the ascendancy, then the other, but neither state of affairs brings lasting peace to the galaxy. Anakin's actions broke the power of the Empire and with it the Dark Side in the short term, but in the longer term all that did was perpetuate the cycle.
Ultimately, and as explored in the old Expanded Universe novels, balance cannot be brought to the Force by violence, but only by consensus. And the first step in achieving that consensus is to acknowledge that neither the Light nor Dark Side of the Force can exist without its respective opposite, but simultaneously complementary, expression. As the Last Jedi explores through Luke's character, in their own way, the old Jedi Order was every bit as unbalanced as the Sith, just not as directly destructive. Their way didn't work, and indeed their very fear of the Dark Side's influence, that lead them to reject attachment, left those they trained isolated and unable to understand how the people they were charged to protect actually lived their lives, and this made them vulnerable to falling under the influence of the most extreme expressions of the Dark Side of the Force. A new paradigm is needed, and I think Rey and Ben's ability to see each other as more than their respective innate Force alignment leanings is that new start. They will probably become Grey Jedi, and in the process both bring balance to the Force and find peace of mind for themselves.
Kylo removed his helmet for rey in TFA. He removed his glove and went topless for Rey in TLJ. I'm rubbing my palms excitedly together on what else would come off in episode IX.
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I’ve come to realize that every elevator scene in Star Wars, all of the characters are involved in some sort of love capacity. Obi-Wan loved Anakin (as a brother) Luke loved Vader (as a father). Food for thought
When Snoke is commanding Kylo Ren to prove his loyalty by killing Rey, Kylo uses his left hand to kill Snoke. He choses her saber instead of his own. He shows his loyalty to her by using his left hand to free her from Snoke. Such a small detail, but I feel like it is important.
I don't understand this left hand thing. Can you explain it?
Really great observation. At the risk of sounding like an idiot, Can you elaborate on what the significance is with him using his left hand? Thanks!
The left hand is the one that you wear your wedding band on. Marriage is the ultimate sign of loyalty to someone, so Kylo using his left hand to show his loyalty to her is probably significant. As an added observation, before when Rey pulls Kylo's saber to her she uses her left hand. She's choosing his saber over her own. And this happens directly after the elevator scene.
Isn't the left hand the "wedding hand" that you put the rings on? At least in the West...
Also the left hand is usually the weaker hand. So he’s forgoing his own strength to save her. Ie showing his vulnerability towards her.
And something else which I doubt was behind their reasoning: in Judaism your dominant side of your body represents gevurah-strength also sometimes meaning heroism.
And your non-dominant side represents chesed- kindness.
Kindness and compassion are essentially the same thing.
AND *drumroll* Anakin described compassion as unconditional love.
So if the writers/Directors know about this concept it makes it all the more awesome!!
😱😍❤️
Me and my best friend went to see The Last Jedi and as soon as the movie was finished the first thing she said was "did anyone else notice Kylo sliding like a child"
I love that kylo-sliding tooooooo and during his face of course
That is one of my favorite moments!
A friend of mine thought Reylo was over at the end of the movie when the door closed between them, and I was like "Bitch, it ain't over. It's just the beginning!" xD
That moment when Rey called Kylo's lightsaber to her I was like ''I bet he thought that was SO hot!'' :-D
But yeah, the Throne Room fight was the one of the best scenes in the movie that not only the Reylo Community enjoyed, but the haters had to grudgingly admit that it was awesome as well.
Kylo would never lie to his Rey of light.
Marcos Zottas aaayyyyyyyyyy
I cant even
Awwww!
*screams
*kills self
*revives
*screams again
Marcos Zottas pun pun pun pun
In the mirror cave I never noticed it looked like Kylo and Rey walking towards it but when it became one figure the movement and shape is undeniably Ben before her face appeared.
When she came in to "his house" and the first person she saw was him, her look reminds me of when you have a crush on someone and your heart flutters when you finally get to see them in the flesh. Her eyebrow raise told it.(Happy sigh)
kellsy h yes......and the look she gives when he walks away.
kellsy h And notice that Rey did her hair and put on makeup. It was like a date.
Once again you two have made my day. Ever since seeing The Last Jedi for the first time I've just been smiling constantly because of all those Reylo scenes. Spending the next two years celebrating that feeling? Sure, why not.
adamlundq I'll be celebrating with you lmao
There’s a lot of great fan fiction out there to quench your thirst in the meantime. 😉
Any Reylo video by Star Wars Connection, I watch.
Gretel yep
Also, Ben is so completely broken at the beginning of the film, but it seems like him being able to talk to Rey really fills him with hope, and at the end he's back where he started.
My theory is that Snoke just took credit for the bond to manipulate them both. Honestly when i saw the movie i was convinced that their bond wasnt broken when snoke died, i thought it was Rey who kept those dice there for Kylo to find, and also their last interaction. They are clearly seeing eachother and comunicating in some way. Reylo is far from dead ;-)
We found love in a hopeless place 😍
RATNA ROY literally a song in Rey’s playlist
AAAHHHHHHHHHH
RATNA ROY lmao I accidentally read your comment with Rihanna's singing voice😂😂
This is how we win. Not by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love.-Rose tico
Such a useless character.
its a hint of Rey and Ben's love for eachother, especially after Rey watching Finn taking care of Rose and she looked down at the broken light saber. 2 (souls) halves that need to become 1.
That shirtless scene is the epitome of "If I were there, what would we be doing lol :p"
I was just about to go to bed. Looks like I'm staying up for atleast another 30 minutes!
#noregrets XD
same 😂
Same ahaha
Same
Actually 29 minutes and 53 seconds
Maybe that face Ben makes when Snoke says he bridged their minds is him realizing Snoke is a complete liar. Ben knows he's has a connection with Rey since they met.
YES! When they touched - we got the beautiful Force theme!!!! It’s going to be Good 💕💕💕💕
I゚m expecting John Wiliams to compose beautiful melody named "Theme of Ray & Ben "
Yassss. Throughout the video = me smiling like an idiot and giggling like a schoolgirl XD.
Julia Crawford that was me after seeing TLJ for the first time for at least 3 days 😂😂
SAMEEEE
Anne Bastière SAME
same lmao
Julia Crawford a
Damn! I knew their fight scene with the guards was also a sex scene in subtext, but reading that meta-analysis made me blush (fans self) 😅 hahaha 😂
Me too! Reading the imagery, I never thought of it that way but now I can’t unsee it! Lol
hahaha i was wondering about the fight scene too.lol
+Azizah BINTI ALI some say that kylo was like sleeping after the explotion.was the explotion really made him unconcious?
I know! When they go through the symbolism blow by blow... it's getting steamy in here, my goodness.
You guys notice also during the tender moment where they're touching hands, that he is also shaking. You notice that her hand is completely steady, yet he is shaking. Almost as if a lover who's never found someone to be intimate with, but has seen that side of intimacy and never experienced it. It's almost, I believe the same for First Blood. The other ones may have been make out sessions in my opinion.
Great ideas on Rey and Kylo’s leaps of faith! Next time I see the movie I’m going to focus all the more on where the characters are coming from.
listen. If we dont get reylo waking up next to each other because of an accidental skype session during ep ix im suing
Anna la Banana I am definitely up for that!!! 😂😂😂
From the first time I watched the movie I felt it was very sexual, and those sexual moments where directed towards Rey at first. I mean first we have the alien titty milk that's a very weird scene, but it caught my attention that her expression shows awkwardness and then she looks away!
Then, I thought about all the Ahch-to set up. I don't know if I'm reading to much into this, but you alredy were talking about Luke being portrayed as an angry father haha but I mean we have this island of the first jedi temple. We all know that the force, the jedi and the sith are based on christianity, so sometimes the force is treated like a sacred energy, and so is the temple, this sacred place of chastity, not only becase Luke lives there all alone but also because there are actual NUNS. The caretakers are NUNS!! And what are nuns known about, aside from taking care of the poor and the ill? Chastity. Also, they don't like Rey at all, she says "I think they don't like me". Maybe they don't like her because she's destroying the island haha but I also think they don't like her in the same way Luke doesn't like her. He doesn't trust her because she is going to the dark side without any hesitation, and the dark side meaning that she can discover unknown aspects of herself, from her who her parents are to her sexuality. It is very funny for me, actually haha I mean Luke is speaking of the force like a sacred and pure energy, and Rey and Kylo develop this intimacy and maybe have a sexual awakening through the sameforce that is supposed to be sacred lol.
So I think the contrast between how Luke and the jedi understand the force (especially since the jedi were all like "no attachments, no procreation"), the set up in Ahch-to with the nuns and hermit Luke (implying chastity), and how Rey and Kylo experience the force, is made on purpose to show that the force bond between them leads them to sexual tension and to develop romantic feelings towards each other.
Ana Ramírez López Exactly, yes!!!
Brilliant comment. Thanks!!
A good point, which I hadn't considered until now. One of the tragic flaws in the Jedi philosophy has been the complete abstention from deep attachment, or love, or family. They embrace the holy love, while rejecting the body's love, which is unrealistic for the deep needs of a living being. The fact that these two (Rey in particular, and Kylo to a lesser extent) are unafraid of crossing between the two directions of dark and light, to find balance, is a very hopeful sign that they could work together to forge a new direction for force users in the universe.
It is also really funny to me, the awkwardness that would be inherent in two inexperienced people fumbling around with each other while trying to hide their business from their restrictive, fundamentalist families, haha
I hope things work out, where they can be happy together in some way. A positive example of romantic love, and one than can transform a life for the better, would be a thrilling conclusion for this trilogy.
The quality content I have been waiting for
6:55 I need a t-shirt that says, "The Force ships Reylo."
many people think Kylo is weak and because of it him killing Snoke is unrealistic, but look: Snoke and Luke (2 powerful force users, who have seen many powerful force users) say that Kylo has some raw power... this power must be something special, but because of emotional conflict in Kylo he can't use it, but if he can concentrate and calm himself, and be sure (not conflicted) about something he can use his full power and this happened with Snoke.
earlier Snoke was saying to Kylo that after Han he become more weak end conflicted, but when Snoke orders him kill Rey (and before he said he manipulated their force bond and that and Reys torture made Kylo angry) Snoke says that conflict and weakness in Kylo was changed to strength... so there is it, when Kylo knows what he wants and it is emotional too and not onli rational, "I must to do it" thing, he can be really strong and fully use his natural power :)
and people don't like that Snoke was killed so "easily"....they want something new and shock, they get but still don't like, it's stereotype that main villain should be killed in difficult way at the end of movie/trilogy, but we are tired about things that happened 10000 times... and I always wondered why every hero must defeat villain in open battle or something like that, when the great evil is so powerful why can't someone have enough mind to think some different way, wouldn't be it more realistic? and finely my boy, Kylo did it )))) so he broke all cliches + he really fulfilled his destiny/wish - he finished what Vader started/couldn't do, he really become emperor, and he did it much younger age then Vader (killed emperor) or even Palpatin (become emperor)....
what a brilliant comment.i like it
Do you wonder what would have happened if Rey took his hand after the space-Darcy-proposal? I mean the next natural step would have been a kiss.
I absolutely agree that Kylo Ren should have everything he wanted now...power as the head of the first order, Luke dead, the Resistance on the run, but he wasn’t happy at the end of TLJ because he doesn’t have what he wants more than anything else...Rey. Gah it’s going to be hard to wait two more years to see how this all plays out!
You girls are good. You've been right about so many things in these movies. You've become my go to authority for all things Reylo.
A fantastic video to wake up to! I love listening to your insights on Reylo - the evidence has always been there but now it's as clear as day! Can't wait for your next video and to see how Rey and Kylo's relationship develops further in Episode IX! 😀❤️
I'm so happy you finally put up another video post-TLJ. I feel like you guys cover Reylo best -- even-handed with a sprinkle of fan-girl in the most perfect of ways. Always looking forward to your next!
I've noticed that when rey is in the throne throne she takes kylo's lightsaber and kylo takes rey's when he kills snoke could this be symbolism for taking each other's virginity?
Aamina Younis Very interesting, that's a cool thought
Hell yeah IT SHOULD BE
This was amazing and gave me so much insight into the Reylo scenes. Thank you.
Started cackling at the notification 😂
Thank you Lee and Denise! You girls are amazing at what you do! Loved this video so much and can't wait for the next one! You made me laugh so much at how Rey did her make up and changed her clothes to go to his 'house' haha Brilliant xoxox
The best reylo theory channel. While I was watching there were a lot of things I missed and I watched the movie two times so this was awesome, also cannot wait to see episode 9! #Reylo all the way!!!!!!!😎😍
If you look closely, when the two figures merge to make one figure, it's Kylo. You can see the outline of his hair perfectly. When it reveals Rey's face, it doesn't match the silhouette, which shows thick hair above the shoulders, while Rey's hair goes down her back. I don't know who the two figures are, but the one "she needs" is definitely Kylo.
kylo: i'm angsty and powerful
kylo: /meets rey/
kylo:
kylo: takes off glove, mask, shirt....
Girls, I love listening to you so much! I just smile all the time and go like: "yes, I'm not the only one who saw this!"
You've made me 1000% Reylo - thank you for this!
Another excellent interpretation of Reylo.😍😍😍
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MY ENTIRE LIFE BRB WATCHING
If Luke didn't barge in and interrupt them, they would have kissed!!
TLJ was all Reylo
I practically choked on my own gasps of excitement in the cinema, my friend even asked if I needed an ambulance. Also, I agree with you about Snoke. He probably sensed a connection between them at some point and used it to his advantage. It's almost ironic really, giving that it only made their connection stronger and ultimately sealed his fate.
Your conversations (and analyses) are delightful! I'm not typically a shippin' kind of gal, but I find my interest so captured by the complex dynamic between Kylo and Rey. I appreciate your food for thought, and my god, the laughs, because holy mother of pearl with that onslaught of imagery. Very cool, so thanks and keep it going!
REYLO + SEX oh my God I don't know why I am smiling. And my heart said DING DING DING. 🔔🔔🛎️🛎️🎊🎊🤷🤷
I think Kylo wasn’t giving up anyone else he truly cared about for Snoke. Not anymore. He didn’t hate his father, he loved him, but it wasn’t enough! He wasn’t about to let Snoke kill Rey.
Denise: your message of hope for Reylo @ the end, beautifully said. Thank you, both for another stimulating episode dedicated to our favorite Star Wars dark fairytale ship, Reylo. Looking forward to the next installment. Sharing on my Tumblr account now. Sweet dreams, ladies.
Ive waited so long for this😰😍#Reylo
Kylo totally should have kissed her hand in that hand touching scene. It would have been like a perfect fairy tale Prince kissing his lady's hand scene.
Snoke definitely did not create the force bond. The Star Wars databank states: "On Takodana, Skywalker's lightsaber called to Rey, who experienced a force vision. She rejected this call to destiny, but was captured by the dark side warrior Kylo Ren, with WHOM SHE SHARED A STRANGE CONNECTION. As Rey's force abilities grew, so did her mysterious connection with Kylo-somehow they could hear and see each other across millions of light years. To Rey's surprise, Kylo no longer tried to hide his hurt and pain from her - and he suggested that the story of how he'd betrayed Luke Skywalker wasn't as simple as Rey had been led to believe."
This implies the connection (aka the force bond) between Rey and Kylo had already developed sometime back in TFA. It's likely the "connection" was established during the interrogation scene when they are both pushing into each other's minds wit the force.
Hey I'm A BIG fan of your videos! I love love love them. I look forward to each and every one.
I just wanted to voice an idea about how Ben receives Rey in the Supremecy and how it could be seen as cold. I never really got the impression that he was cold. I think he was just as happy to see her there as she was to see him (I mean he floofed his hair and got pretty for her too XD) but since he is* on Snoke's ship he wouldn't really have much of a choice but to bring her to Snoke. And as far as he knew, Snoke didn't know about the force bond between them. He may have been distancing himself a bit to protect it because above all, I believe he was already committed to Rey. But I mostly say this because while he looked distant at first as soon as she says his name in the elevator he goes all soft again in his eyes and there's the tenderness again he only has for her. (and that elevator ride cut them short! they would've kissed! lol jk... kind of 😳)
And i really agree and like that leap of faith thing! I don't really think Benlo planned it all out but he believed in the vision and that with Rey by his side things would work out. While he didn't react too much while she was being manhandled/tortured by creeper Snoke, we as the audience are shown a glimpse of his mind in his facial reactions, which subtly changed from panic to anger. At least it looked that way to me.
Anyways, that's just what I thought. Thanks for these vids! They're absolutely awesome and so well made, from the analysis you make to the gifs you choose which always make me laugh.
I was just thinking..."When are they posting another video?" And then the post notification came in 😍😍😍👏🎊🎉
If they won't fall in love in IX ,I'll be flipping tables
Ben has never lied to Rey. I ship them so hard it hurts. Hahaha
I want to watch 1000 videos about Reylo from you guys!! It's so nice to look forward to seeing them))
Another lovely vid ladies! Thank you
Finally!! Wonderful vid ladies! I love hearing you discuss the Prince and Princess!
I loved this conversation,gals, so refreshing after guys analysing same ol things. So much laughter, thank you.
Another interesting take on the Princess storming the castle to save her Prince is that I actually think of it more like the Princess has to go to the dark castle to try and tame the dragon (innuendo and double entendre intended) in order to save the kingdom...and because she actually realizes that she loves that poor tortured dragon and wants to set him free. At least that's what it seems like to me.
this made me giggle... openly and in a manly fashion, that is...
I just found your videos recently and am really enjoying them. Thanks for making them!
Yesssss! I've shipped reylo since TFA and I'm so happy it's looking good so far, and I can't wait to see episode 9!
I love this so much omg you guys made such amazing points!!
I agree with your explanation about Snoke claims that he connected Kylo and Rey. I think he sensed that connection between them and used it as their weaknesses. He even says it, he knew Kylo was weak and would fall for Rey and Rey would take the bait to try to turn Kylo to the light. In the end Snoke underestimated his apprentice.
Lily Martinez
It is an important part of dialogue.
Now, the question is how Kylo can become a men, not a serveant?
Snoke knew that Kylo have to fall like Vader to become Vader.
Kylo had to kill his master to save Rey the same way as Vader did to save Luke.
Snoke is immortal in a different way than Luke. He can also project himself far away in the universe.
Now Snoke gets a real bad guy who killed his true enemy (he hated Snoke).
Great episode, can‘t wait for more reylo videos 👌🏽
Eeeeek I haven’t even watched and I am positively SQUEALING over the title!!! 😍😍😍
All of this and especially the imagery. The water on the glove and the way he reacts to it.
Love your videos! One thing I wanted to bring up is the part where Ben takes Rey to Snoke and watches as events unfold. You slowly see him become more and more agitated towards Snoke. When Rey takes Kylo saber and is thrown on the floor, you see his saber slide to Bens feet. As it does so, it's spinning, and you see his reflection watching the saber spin to a stop. Immediately after this, Snoke says he senses resolve in Kylo, and Kylo says he knows what he has to do. He tricks Snoke by "turning" the sabers at the same time. To me, it was clear that his loyalties flipped in that throne room. And when the force showed him an opportunity, he went for it.
Snoke was obhiously lying. Because if the bond was made by him.... wouldn’t it break when he died?
nope...the bond doesnt break once the one who tied them dies,there is a dead knot tied on that bond.
i was waiting for you guys to upload a video.. totally worth the wait... love you guys so much
The only comment I don't agree with is that Kylo should have winked at rey when she showed up to the "supreme leaders house", because SNOKE is very powerful. I'm sure it took KYLO REN a long time to be able to figure out how to how to hide some of his feelings from SNOKE; if you watch in the beginning of the movie KYLO always tries to play it cool around SNOKE no matter how angry SNOKE may make him and than has his outburst when he is away from SNOKE'S presence. The one time KYLO (could not control himself) AND had an outburst in front of SNOKE he was shocked by SNOKE and SNOKES guards were in the defense.)Im sure KYLO knew if he made any gesture to Rey of comfort or reaching out to her DURING THEIR ENCOUNTER SNOKE would have read this in REYS mind and any desire to turn on SNOKE would have been difficult because his defenses would have been up. It was amazing how much control Snoke thought he had over kylo that it lead to his downfall. So his encounter with Rey was what it needed to be, in order to be able to accomplish what they accomplished, even if it was not what he intended to do. I love all Rey and Kylo scenes together I Thought they were well thought out and careful choreographed. I felt drawn to them every time I watch scenes of them together and am rooting for them and the promise of a better future. Finally, a relationship that doesn't follow the tragic relationships from shakespearean play.
Reylo ending could be a great way to make this trilogy more different from the other ones. If you want to bring balance to the force this is how you do it.
3:19 I agree. Snoke says he connected them with the force which is believable through out the movie. However, toward the end of the movie when the rebels are fleeing from crate, they see each other through the force one last time, before Rey closes the door to the falcon. That is after Snoke is killed so in my interpretation he couldn’t have been the one to connect them otherwise they would not have seen each other at that moment
21:34 - Now whenever I see Snoke, this image will forever burn in my eyes. Thanks, SW Connection!
You're welcome! 😇
I didn't even notice the innuendo Easter eggs throughout the movie 😂😂 I was just really confused at the breast feeding aliens and Luke milking alien cows 😂😂
i was confuse with the fight scene.some say there are many subtext in the film
I remember somebody in the Reylo fandom on tumblr nicknamed Luke "Luke The Cockblocking Jedi." Also, the scene where she ships herself to Kylo (pardon the lame pun) kind of reminds of how Cleopatra managed to secretly meet Cesare by smuggling herself in a rug.
I believe what he said about her parents and only because she was the one who said it first “they were nobody”. Also in my opinion having this protagonist without anyone significant being her parents is really nice! Showing even if you are a “nobody” you can be a somebody. But love the video! All the reylo in this movie was great and i think for a middle movie that it was pretty good at conveying what is to come in episode 9.
Another great video ladies! 👏🏽
I have a question though, if Kylo had no conflict going into Snoke’s throne room then what do you think the conflict is Rey senses in him during the elevator scene? She does say “I feel the conflict in you, it’s tearing you apart.” Is it not necessarily light v. dark conflict and more conflict in that he’s not sure how to proceed? I do love the idea of Kylo’s leap of faith but I’m wondering how that coincides with what Rey says.
On my first viewing I actually got the sense that Kylo was upset that Rey showed up on the Supremacy and put herself in danger. “Like dammit Rey why would you show up here? Now I have to take you to Snoke and how the hell am I supposed to make sure you get out alive?” So the conflict in the elevator (to me anyways) was Kylo’s battling loyalties to both Rey and the First Order. And then when his hand was forced by Snoke, his choice was clear and his conflict was gone. Hence Snoke’s line of “Where there was conflict, I now sense resolve.” But that could just be me. Every time I watch any of your videos my little Reylo brain just gets working! Keep up the amazing work ladies!
When Rey "senses the conflict" in him, she also think he's betraying her and taking her to Snoke. I'd guess that her Kylometer is a bit off. Maybe what she is sensing is that he's not going to betray her, and it's at odds with what she is seeing, and she interprets it as conflict. That's my take. I just think he's too serene for a conflicted Kylo. We've seen him being torn apart before, and it looks quite different. But yeah, awesome comment!
Great video. Love the care you put into it. I notice too, that fans that didn't like TLJ for whatever reasons, at least like the Rey/Kylo scenes. They may not refer to the scenes as Reylo, but they like the idea of the light & dark working together. I'm Reylo shipper, so ofcourse I noticed and enjoyed the romantic nuances.
Kylo had to school his face as he "delivers" Rey to Snoke because he can not afford to give his thoughts away. While he was vacillating with everything else that being put forth in front of him, he was only being sure where Rey is concerned. "In a world of black and white, he only wanted gRey."
She is a REY of light who goes to rescue kylo from the dark side!!!
Maybe both of their visions of each others futures only showed them fighting together against the guards as a team which would be why they both assume each will turn to the other side and why Kylo knows he will kill Snoke... or figures it out quickly in the moment.
TBH I think these two are going to be the first "Grey" force users. And they saw their future together assuming it meant one of them going to the other side when really they meet in the middle
Thank you for this video i loved watching it and i ship reylo so yeh really enjoyed it xxx
Kylo is a Skywalker/Solo! Skywalkers react when seeing a loved one hurt. Young Anakin kills a band of sand people after his mom dies. Luke goes light saber crazy on Darth Vader when he mentioned turning his sister towards the dark side. Vader kills the emperor for force frying Luke. Vader's energy rages when hearing of his wife's death. So naturally Kylo reacts when seeing Ren being tossed about by Snoke. Gotta love them Skywalkers!!
I really think the Junior Novelization adds support to their bond being forged WAY before TFA. Great video guys! :)
Kylo called the light saber. Watch his fingers.
I’ve been writing hot Reylo fanfiction since I saw Last Jedi (3 times) I am on this ship and will happily go down with it. Don’t bother sending rescue.
Did anyone notice Kylo shakes a little when there about to touch? Could it be only me?
Also that Kylo’s hair is extremely well put together when Rey arrives! 😁
+Mari-Chan_lockwood hahaha as if he has been waiting for her.i love his hair in this scene and in thr interrogative scene.he looks like a real prince.
It caught me completely by surprise when I watched it. I didn't get any sexual tension between Rey and Ben in TFA, I wasn't expecting it all, it wasn't even remotely on my radar. But then they started to talk and I was like.......... And then there was the fight against the guards and I was like.......!!! And then he gave her that speech asking her to stay with him and I was like!!!!!!!! But I still left the cinema expecting my friends to make fun of me because I shipped it, but when I mentioned it they totally agreed.