I have a 2024 gmc at4 with the 3.0 Duramax. I have not had the same regen issues. I have been running the maintenance arch oil on every fill up. Will also run the arch oil system cleaner at 5000 miles. I’m a believer in the archoil additive. Also running amsoil and the ppe filter. Truck seems to run quieter and smoother with all of the above.
I tried the Archoil treatment on my 2023 LZ0. Saw great results almost instantly, went from 100 miles in between regens all the way to 400 mile intervals. However after a few weeks it gradually started getting shorter again and now I'm back to 100 mile regen intervals. The Archoil only seems to be a Band-Aid. These things gulp DEF fluid.
I'll have to start logging my regen intervals. Just completed one on the way to work this morning. The previous interval was about 380 miles or so. I have been using the Archoil since I got the truck back to Colorado after buying it in MO and driving it back. Didn't have the Banks iDash for the drive home so I don't know what the regen intervals were on that trip. Currently sitting at 2760miles on the odometer. This last regen seemed to take a while to complete. My commute to work is 26 miles and the regen status showed active for a good 15-20 miles.
My regens were averaging 120 to 150 using hotshots EDT. I switched to Archoil maintenance treatment 2oz every fill up. My regens have been increasing ever since. First one was 179 then the next was 220. Now it is at 239 after my third tank of Archoil. When I fill up tomorrow I am going to use the Archoil treatment that you used to see if that makes anymore improvement.
I found a thread on BobIsTheOilGuy where someone tested the concentrations of the PEA additive that loosens and cleans out soot. Techron Diesel Treatment and Archoil had very high concentrations of that chemical. Hotshots EDT was quite a bit lower. I would post the link if YT still allowed it but you should be able to find it. They tested a dozen or so diesel additives that contained PEA. I wonder how much more PEA is in Hotshots extreme fuel system cleaner. Their website describes EDT as "brushing your teeth every day" and their Extreme as "going to the dentist" aka use every 6000 miles. I'm just trying to find the best bang for the buck in a PEA additive, since the Archoil stuff is a little more expensive than most.
Archoil has the same additive as Chevron Techron. It's called PEA or polyether amine. Loosens ir breaks down carbon deposits. Very commonly used in fuel system cleaners for gas and diesel these days. Archoil must put a ton in it.
I use Chevron on all fillups unless I am out of town and cannot get to a chevron station. The Gasoline is top tier but the diesel does not meet that spec. Only one that does is Costco and there is just one kind of near me. I wonder if more diesel fuels became top tier and used the PEA, if we would have better results without an additive.
@@DemonWorks Where I live in California Chevron only sells B99 Blended Renewable/Biodiesel with 0% petroleum base. Only Exxon/Mobil sells #2 ULSD diesel and they don't even say what is in it or if it is bio/synthetic. Silverado manual says no more than B20 for the baby Duramax and says nothing about "renewable" diesel which is synthetic diesel made from vegetable oil. My nearest top tier diesel station is a Costco 50 miles away.
I just added a bottle of archoil clean to my 2024 LZ0 before I drove from Kansas to Minnesota and my Idash was at 61% regen and 60% soot level. I watched the regen % slowly drop to about 35% before it started increasing again and my soot % dropped to 21%. When the regen reached 100% my soot level was still in the upper 20's. When the regen was complete the Idash recorded 440 mile regen.
Got 587 miles on the tank with the Archoil cleaner, filled the tank and added 3oz of the archoil 6500 and the next regen was 538 miles on the return trip. We will see what it does back with daily driving
My 24 AT4 has 700 miles on odometer and regens are occurring at every 120 miles or so. I drive all highway miles. The truck is getting good fuel mileage despite the frequent regenerations.
Yeah if you do pure highway driving the regens don't have as big of an effect on the fuel economy averages since it's so quick. My friend's gen 1 Ecodiesel seemed to need way longer to complete a regen.
My truck had a CEL P22FE with 962 miles. I decided to clear the code with my banks idash and add 6oz of the arch oil treatment. The truck underwent a regeneration shortly thereafter and I have put about 100miles without the CEL coming back on. The dpf seems to be filling at a slower pace since adding this treatment. Will need to drive a few more miles to see if this made a difference.
190 between regen. Last one was 170, this one shows 190 on the idash. Should I be concerned? 22 lm2 w/50k.. however I’ve only put 15k on it after purchasing with 35. I kinda figured the more often it regens the cleaner it keeps your dpf as long as it doesn’t cause issues with the truck.
I use Power Service Diesel Kleen on each fill up and I never use excessive DEF. This is on an LM2 though so the emissions probably aren't as strict. 2024 Cadillac Escalade Diesel.
Dear Mr. Demon Sir knower of everything Duramax... I am doing a regen roughly every 100 miles. About 1% regen % for every mile. What can I tell the dealer to make them do the updates to help this?
My '24 is at the dealer now. 14k miles. Have check engine light and service DEF system warning pop up. Murdock Chev in bountiful will have had for 4 days. I am told they have a tech case open with GM to see what is going on. Don't know when i'll get my truck back.
I have not found any evidence of plugging anything up aside from the MAP sensors getting clogged. That is externally accessible, just not the easiest of jobs.
Thanks for the info. I have 2024 ZR2 1500 with the LZO and was seeing 100-200 between regens. I did get it reprogrammed but it really didn't seem to change things. Might try the Archoil. Any warranty issues with using the Archoil?
mine does stay on for the whoile time. Banks is aware of the issue on yours as others have the same issue. Seems to be varying by truck with no reasoning behind it. You can go in and select the first "LM2" option in the iDash and that should make it work. You lose some other parameters but you gain the regen parameters.
Have a 24 High Country. I cant seem to find the DPF Soot Level on my iDash. DPF regen % is available, but I just see particulate mater % otherwise. Any advice would be great. I am seeing ~180 mile regen miles on my average use which involves a 20 mile highway commute
I just installed one too and can't find it. I did read that the soot % shows on the latest beta software and not the latest installed software on the I dash.
Try selecting the first LM2 option, this will give you those readings but you lose some transmission data. I believe Banks is working on correcting the issue, I just spoke with them about it a few days ago.
How did you guys get it reprogrammed? My dealer said and dont quote me bc it was a few weeks ago but something like 200 for each thing i wanted reprogramed. That what you guys did?
The reprogram is meant to resolve one or all of the codes from that bulletin. So it would be best to let the dealer know the code you have seen and potentially cleared for whatever reason, like being out of town or something. www.duramaxnews.com/post/lz0-ecm-update-available-regen-fix
Yeah i was told unless its a recall, i have a check engine light, or the technician can get GM to approve it. I’d have to pay for each individual thing to be updated. So basically I have to keep taking it there complaining about regions until the tech can get GM to do something about it.
@@DemonWorks I'm not sure if the Chevron in your area has the Top Tier diesel or not. If you do a search for Top Tier Diesel in your area, you should be able to find a list of stations. GM says to only use Top Tier for the Diesel, if you do not, you are supposed to put GM fuel additive.
@@DemonWorks Sorry, I didn't realize those were your videos. I have watched so many on the 3.0 I can't remember every channel I saw them on. I was thinking non-Top Tier fuel was the cause of so many regens, but it could also be oil being ingested in to the engine as part of the cause.
It's extremely hard to find Top Tier diesel. Unlike Top Tier gasoline which many companies adopted, Top Tier diesel basically failed so stations that carry Top Tier diesel are few and far between. That's why guys should be running a fuel additive that contains the PEA detergent that is part of the Top Tier standard.
It's a Regen cycle. I'm new too and what I've learned is that it's part of an emissions system cleaning cycle that burns off soot particulars in your system. These cycles happen every few hundred miles and the most important thing is that many say you should continue driving your truck until the cycle is over. It's taking me 12-20 miles of driving during an active cycle.. how do you know when it's active? Best way is by installing a Banks IDash.
Dude most of the guys with heavy duty diesel trucks use additives and not just for the lubricity or cetane aspect. There are detergents that do a really good job of keeping injectors clean and get soot out of the engine.
I have a 2024 gmc at4 with the 3.0 Duramax. I have not had the same regen issues. I have been running the maintenance arch oil on every fill up. Will also run the arch oil system cleaner at 5000 miles. I’m a believer in the archoil additive. Also running amsoil and the ppe filter. Truck seems to run quieter and smoother with all of the above.
Glad to see, I run a bottle of Archoil every 5000 miles and have not had the short regen in my LZO
@@MattChat56 yep it seems to work well.
I tried the Archoil treatment on my 2023 LZ0. Saw great results almost instantly, went from 100 miles in between regens all the way to 400 mile intervals. However after a few weeks it gradually started getting shorter again and now I'm back to 100 mile regen intervals. The Archoil only seems to be a Band-Aid. These things gulp DEF fluid.
mine started to creep down and they suggested I run the daily treatment, I did and after a little bit i am showing back in the 300's
I'll have to start logging my regen intervals. Just completed one on the way to work this morning. The previous interval was about 380 miles or so. I have been using the Archoil since I got the truck back to Colorado after buying it in MO and driving it back. Didn't have the Banks iDash for the drive home so I don't know what the regen intervals were on that trip. Currently sitting at 2760miles on the odometer. This last regen seemed to take a while to complete. My commute to work is 26 miles and the regen status showed active for a good 15-20 miles.
My regens were averaging 120 to 150 using hotshots EDT. I switched to Archoil maintenance treatment 2oz every fill up. My regens have been increasing ever since. First one was 179 then the next was 220. Now it is at 239 after my third tank of Archoil. When I fill up tomorrow I am going to use the Archoil treatment that you used to see if that makes anymore improvement.
Let me know how it works.
I found a thread on BobIsTheOilGuy where someone tested the concentrations of the PEA additive that loosens and cleans out soot. Techron Diesel Treatment and Archoil had very high concentrations of that chemical. Hotshots EDT was quite a bit lower. I would post the link if YT still allowed it but you should be able to find it. They tested a dozen or so diesel additives that contained PEA. I wonder how much more PEA is in Hotshots extreme fuel system cleaner. Their website describes EDT as "brushing your teeth every day" and their Extreme as "going to the dentist" aka use every 6000 miles. I'm just trying to find the best bang for the buck in a PEA additive, since the Archoil stuff is a little more expensive than most.
Archoil has the same additive as Chevron Techron. It's called PEA or polyether amine. Loosens ir breaks down carbon deposits. Very commonly used in fuel system cleaners for gas and diesel these days. Archoil must put a ton in it.
I use Chevron on all fillups unless I am out of town and cannot get to a chevron station. The Gasoline is top tier but the diesel does not meet that spec. Only one that does is Costco and there is just one kind of near me. I wonder if more diesel fuels became top tier and used the PEA, if we would have better results without an additive.
@@DemonWorks Where I live in California Chevron only sells B99 Blended Renewable/Biodiesel with 0% petroleum base. Only Exxon/Mobil sells #2 ULSD diesel and they don't even say what is in it or if it is bio/synthetic. Silverado manual says no more than B20 for the baby Duramax and says nothing about "renewable" diesel which is synthetic diesel made from vegetable oil. My nearest top tier diesel station is a Costco 50 miles away.
@@DemonWorksdid you pour whole bottle in or half since our tanks are only 24 gallons?
@@em2760whole bottle. It’s 6 ounces for 15-20 gallons or whole bottle (12 ounces) for a complete clean.
I just added a bottle of archoil clean to my 2024 LZ0 before I drove from Kansas to Minnesota and my Idash was at 61% regen and 60% soot level. I watched the regen % slowly drop to about 35% before it started increasing again and my soot % dropped to 21%. When the regen reached 100% my soot level was still in the upper 20's. When the regen was complete the Idash recorded 440 mile regen.
Got 587 miles on the tank with the Archoil cleaner, filled the tank and added 3oz of the archoil 6500 and the next regen was 538 miles on the return trip. We will see what it does back with daily driving
Did you pour entire bottle or half since our tanks are smaller?
@@em2760 I did add the entire bottle. I didn't think half was enough and didn't want a quarter of a bottle sitting around
I have a 23 3.0 AT4. I’m seeing 150-185 miles between regen. Just added the arch oil, see if that makes a difference.
@DemonWorks, as always great video and update on the issue. Wondering why you stopped using your 2nd iDash?
Thanks ! It was a temporary removal for video purposes during a certain period of time.
My 24 AT4 has 700 miles on odometer and regens are occurring at every 120 miles or so. I drive all highway miles. The truck is getting good fuel mileage despite the frequent regenerations.
Yeah if you do pure highway driving the regens don't have as big of an effect on the fuel economy averages since it's so quick. My friend's gen 1 Ecodiesel seemed to need way longer to complete a regen.
My truck had a CEL P22FE with 962 miles. I decided to clear the code with my banks idash and add 6oz of the arch oil treatment. The truck underwent a regeneration shortly thereafter and I have put about 100miles without the CEL coming back on. The dpf seems to be filling at a slower pace since adding this treatment. Will need to drive a few more miles to see if this made a difference.
190 between regen. Last one was 170, this one shows 190 on the idash.
Should I be concerned? 22 lm2 w/50k.. however I’ve only put 15k on it after purchasing with 35.
I kinda figured the more often it regens the cleaner it keeps your dpf as long as it doesn’t cause issues with the truck.
I use Power Service Diesel Kleen on each fill up and I never use excessive DEF. This is on an LM2 though so the emissions probably aren't as strict. 2024 Cadillac Escalade Diesel.
I also fill up at Loves with Diesel #2 every time.
+1 thompson.......Power Service Diesel Kleen endorsed by Cummins for use in diesel engines
Okay how do I go about resetting? Do I have to go to GM?
Dear Mr. Demon Sir knower of everything Duramax... I am doing a regen roughly every 100 miles. About 1% regen % for every mile. What can I tell the dealer to make them do the updates to help this?
23 LZ0 regens went way down after putting a bottle of the archoil in. Obviously with a 23 didn’t do a reprogram but the archoil is legit
My '24 is at the dealer now. 14k miles. Have check engine light and service DEF system warning pop up. Murdock Chev in bountiful will have had for 4 days. I am told they have a tech case open with GM to see what is going on. Don't know when i'll get my truck back.
My 2018 just popped the same dash messages. I have an appointment later this week. What did your dealer do fix your problem?
Where can I get the reprogramming done at? The people at my dealership I won’t trust to change my oil.
Dealership
Have you ever removed the intake to observe if the EGR soot is plugging things up?
I have not found any evidence of plugging anything up aside from the MAP sensors getting clogged. That is externally accessible, just not the easiest of jobs.
Thanks for the info. I have 2024 ZR2 1500 with the LZO and was seeing 100-200 between regens. I did get it reprogrammed but it really didn't seem to change things. Might try the Archoil. Any warranty issues with using the Archoil?
Shouldn't be any issues, the owners manual says to run an additive.
Does your dpf dis miles stay with number the entire time the iDash is on? My iDash will only display it for roughly 35-45 seconds.
mine does stay on for the whoile time. Banks is aware of the issue on yours as others have the same issue. Seems to be varying by truck with no reasoning behind it. You can go in and select the first "LM2" option in the iDash and that should make it work. You lose some other parameters but you gain the regen parameters.
How do you see the soot level, i cant find the parameter anywhrre ?
Where did you get your reprogramming done ? What dealer ?
I am a dealer tech, I found the reprogramming the day it came out. ruclips.net/video/CTetUQ3CFmc/видео.html
Have a 24 High Country. I cant seem to find the DPF Soot Level on my iDash. DPF regen % is available, but I just see particulate mater % otherwise. Any advice would be great. I am seeing ~180 mile regen miles on my average use which involves a 20 mile highway commute
Buy an idash
@@joeymendoza6437 buy Hooked On Phonics
I just installed one too and can't find it. I did read that the soot % shows on the latest beta software and not the latest installed software on the I dash.
Try selecting the first LM2 option, this will give you those readings but you lose some transmission data. I believe Banks is working on correcting the issue, I just spoke with them about it a few days ago.
@@DemonWorks thanks!!
Have a new 2025 with 500 miles on it and only averaging about 140 miles between regen
How did you guys get it reprogrammed? My dealer said and dont quote me bc it was a few weeks ago but something like 200 for each thing i wanted reprogramed. That what you guys did?
The reprogram is meant to resolve one or all of the codes from that bulletin. So it would be best to let the dealer know the code you have seen and potentially cleared for whatever reason, like being out of town or something. www.duramaxnews.com/post/lz0-ecm-update-available-regen-fix
I had one of the codes. The dealer will not do it unless you have the CEL with one of the listed codes in the bulletin.
Yeah i was told unless its a recall, i have a check engine light, or the technician can get GM to approve it. I’d have to pay for each individual thing to be updated. So basically I have to keep taking it there complaining about regions until the tech can get GM to do something about it.
@Jkd2244 The reprogramming didn't affect the miles between regens. My initial problem was I had a CEL that came on and the truck went into limp mode.
Can I idle one of these 3.0 dsl for 2 hours a day w/o any issues?
not. a good idea, unfortunately.
Do you run the Top Tier Diesel fuel that GM recommends or just what ever you happen to fill up with?
In the 5 3.0 Duramaxes I have owned, ranging from 2020 to 2024, I fill up with Chevron from the same fuel station unless I am out of town.
@@DemonWorks I'm not sure if the Chevron in your area has the Top Tier diesel or not. If you do a search for Top Tier Diesel in your area, you should be able to find a list of stations. GM says to only use Top Tier for the Diesel, if you do not, you are supposed to put GM fuel additive.
@@a430vaudiguy I am aware, I actually have several videos discussing that. I did run the gm additive as well. Also tried Hotshots.
@@DemonWorks Sorry, I didn't realize those were your videos. I have watched so many on the 3.0 I can't remember every channel I saw them on. I was thinking non-Top Tier fuel was the cause of so many regens, but it could also be oil being ingested in to the engine as part of the cause.
It's extremely hard to find Top Tier diesel. Unlike Top Tier gasoline which many companies adopted, Top Tier diesel basically failed so stations that carry Top Tier diesel are few and far between. That's why guys should be running a fuel additive that contains the PEA detergent that is part of the Top Tier standard.
Do you have the 3D model for the iDash mount? I have one and I’m trying to get it mounted.
Just buy the banks one.. they are cheap
I do not, I use the Banks one.
why not use Pittsburg fuel bourne max mileage??
my last regen was 700 miles!
also EGTS are quite lower due to a more fuller combustion
with the rapid changing in EGT's how do you know they are lower?
how many miles do u go before u change oil
Typically 5k
What is region? I’m new to diesels.
It's a Regen cycle. I'm new too and what I've learned is that it's part of an emissions system cleaning cycle that burns off soot particulars in your system. These cycles happen every few hundred miles and the most important thing is that many say you should continue driving your truck until the cycle is over. It's taking me 12-20 miles of driving during an active cycle.. how do you know when it's active? Best way is by installing a Banks IDash.
ruclips.net/video/DVIgc_7e6BM/видео.html
@@DemonWorks just what I was looking for thanks!
@@JordanJDJ great to hear!
This truck is a hot shot mess!
How so?
If you must add something to your truck, nothing is fixed. Band aid.
OK.
Dude most of the guys with heavy duty diesel trucks use additives and not just for the lubricity or cetane aspect. There are detergents that do a really good job of keeping injectors clean and get soot out of the engine.