VSE Catch Can Overview and Installation on 3.0 Duramax Diesel LZ0 LM2
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- We received our Customized VSE Catch Can from VSE and boy did it impress ! Install was easy and the look is phenomenal. I cannot wait to see just how much oil this can collects and saves from being burned and contaminating my DPF !
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NICE setup, really like the quality of that unit and constant tension hose clamps - NICE truck!
Phew, I gotta hustle and create a RUclips channel soon. Placed an order for my equipment on March 14, still waiting patiently. Your channel is awesome, dude. It played a big part in my decision to purchase a baby Diesel - just love it. Interested in getting some merchandise, can you share the link?
I appreciate the support and will have some details on merch in about a week or two.
Ain't that the truth! Lol
Arrived on Friday and set it up today, Saturday, May 4. Man, it took me over half an hour. Wow, it looks pretty nice. I kinda wish I had the black version like yours instead of the silver, chrome one. I want one the sticker that you have put one on catch can😊❤
I have the raw aluminum one also. I'm fine with it. It's buried in the back of the engine bay. One can hardly see it. If is were up in the front or higher up I probably would have spent the extra $100 for the black coating so it would have matched the black PPE charge air cooler I have already installed. I'm just happy it's going to catch the oil vapor now and keep it out the turbo and charge air cooler. That's what is most important
Nice video. Only thing I would recommend is showing some closeups especially where that preformed hose connection is if that’s even possible. It looks like a really well thought out design. I wonder if the 1 psi bypass would eventually get gummed up with residue? Does VSE say anything about maintenance besides drain intervals?
no further maintenance needed.
This is what I’ve been waiting on for a while-thanks for the vid drop! Please post more with updates.
Great video! Will this void my 30k warranty?
Interesting product and very informative. I know very little about diesel engines and puzzled by one thing. What drives the design requirements/philosophy differences of diesel vs. gas engines where the small gas turbos (in Ford or Toyota trucks and SUV’s) do not consume any noticeable oil even under normal towing situations and one never needs to add oil in between changes (at least as far as I am aware in an engine with no mechanical issues) but its pretty much a given with these Duramax 3.0 and other diesel engines? Hopefully you can shed some light on this for me as to why a gas turbo doesn’t consume so much or any oil vs a diesel. I just cant wrap my head around engines in this day and age using so much oil as “normal” yet very interested in this engine for my future purchase. As always, great content.
Now that i actually have my oil catch can from VSE the issue has been finding time to get it installed. I have a friend who is a diesel mechanic for a Chevrolet dealership and he usually takes care of my Duramax needs at his house. After watching this video I'm thinking about doing this install myself. I just wish VSE had released their catch can before my friend installed the PPE charge air cooler I now have installed on my motor. I'm sure that there is some oil residue inside of now and it would be nice if there wasn't any at all.
I just got mine delivered a few weeks ago and finally installed it today. You can do it at home without much trouble... I didn't have the specialized tools and yes the clips were a little difficult. aside from the catch can mine is completely stock and there's not a whole lot of room to work in there. I'd suggest putting a little bit of Dawn soap on each of the rubber hoses to assist sliding them on. The most difficult is the J hose. The key is having the clips oriented correctly so you can easily get to them.
Love your video. Will get your catch can soon. I don’t know why lm2 oil temp (230f) is always hotter than cooling temp. Is that normal? Could you please tell me where is the oil cooler located? I couldn’t find the info anywhere. Thanks in advance
keep us updated. i have very frequent regens. about 180-200 miles average. i do a lot of short to medium trips daily. 2024 LZO max trailer package. 5k miles.
I’m only at 3k miles in my 24 AT4, but I’m experiencing similar. Was averaging about 350 miles for regen for a while, and now it’s dropped to 248 for me. My average drive is 29 miles to work and the same back home, so more than enough time to warm everything up. I also hope this helps reduce that.
Got here on Friday and got everything ready today, Saturday, May 4. Whew, it took me more than thirty minutes. Well, it does look quite good. I sort of desire the black model you have rather than this silver, chrome one. I would love to get the same sticker that you've added to your catch can 😊❤
VSE engraved my logo on the can. i do have some stickers becoming available in the near future, unsure how well they would handle the underhood temps on the can though.
Thanks for the video! Thoughts between this and the PPE?
Thank you ! I appreciate the kind words ! I feel it is too soon for me to comment on my opinion of either. Having only seen the PPE and it's internals and now seeing the VSE and installing, I don't think it's fair to jump to an opinion.
@DemonWorks the biggest difference I see is mounting location and I am curious about the difference in ease of draining. I always enjoy your content and look to implement some of these upgrades to my '22 LM2.
I get around 240 miles before a regen. Noticed on the I dash around 30% it shoots up to 50% right after. What do u guys get for distance?
I’m seeing similar things. At the 3k miles on my lz0, and about 250 miles for regen. Drops to anywhere from 5-35 after regen and then does suddenly jump back up to 50-55 before climbing slower.
How frequently do you have to drain the catch can?
Varies with the vehicle, but there is a sight glass to see if it's full. Generally it should be drained every oil change but if it fills quicker, you will need to drain it sooner.
I have 75K miles on my 2021. It seems like it's been running the regen a lot more lately. I've been losing about 2 MPG as well. I couldn't figure out why. I'm wondering if this is will help.
Can't wait to get mine. I ordered the black one on the 8th and still waiting on it.
This sucks. I bought this catch can, dropped it in the truck, but my truck has a bunch of wires mounted on top of my battery. The wires interfere with the catch can. Any ideas on how to reroute the wires?
I want to add a catch can, but I was shocked at the price, it is at least 3x what I was expecting (which was twice what a generic version of the same thing would cost).
FWIW The crazy blurs are really distracting...
I'm sure there will be generic copies of this showing up. I felt the price was less than expected. To engineer and then machine something this nice and functional takes some great experience and high $$$ machinery. Thanks for the heads up on the blur, it's on youtube side of things and it's being removed.
@@DemonWorks If they're making the body from bilet sure, but I can't imagine a for-profit business doing that past the prototype stage...
@@ourbackthis is the final product. It’s a beauty !
Nice. Just need mine to get here now.
As far as additives I use amsoil all in one every now and then. I can definitely feel the difference when I add it vs when I don’t. It runs smoother and quieter and has more get up and go.
What does it do
@@nathanhenry9203 Makes an Amsoil dealer money .
Is there any companys making a PVC rerought to atmosphere as that would be far more ideal
what would be the fix for the ses light that pops on? How about the oil vapor spraying into the atmosphere? You can buy the VSE then just leave the valve open, you will have numerous issues in doing so but technically that will suffice your concern.
Here is what I need to know every body with diesels are always adding new parts to them?Im 60 years old and I want to retire with the next truck I bye.Ive been driving trucks for 38 years and I want a small hi-bread camper made 7000 pounds to camp with my grand kids Can the LZ0 in stock form not cost me a arm and a leg to get the job done ??
It's not necessarily the weight, it's more on the wind resistance. How aerodynamic is this trailer?
Thank you! Looks really a quality product! Just ordered one.
Please talk about the p1006 code with the coolant flow valve issue.
Just in my dealership had 11 on back order over 3 months. GM Doesn`t care. Under engine warranty waiting for the part over 2 months.
I LOVE ---LOVED---- the truck . Was thinking to upgrade.
Unfortunately won`t happen. Can`t even trade it in. the fan is in full blast.
Found many on Ebay, but they won`t even install it! Its CRAZY!
Please make a video about this issue! PLEASE!
What should I do?
Unfortunately, the only thing you can do is wait it out for the new part.
May 16, 2024 Update: After install started truck and drove out of garage and parked pickup, no issues. First drive was a 700 mile trip with my Rmax2 in my dump trailer from Idaho to Sacramento over the Sierra Nevada. Somewhere along the trip got a CEL. Banks iDash won't read or clear the code but in stored codes it shows P04DB. Checked hoses and I don't see any obvious leaks etc. and truck runs fine. Now that I made it to my destination I will have a couple days to check it out more and drive around without the trailer in tow before trip back over same route on the 22nd.
May 13, 2024 Installed yesterday on my 2020 Sierra LM2. I was able to do it with new adjustable HF pliers no problem. The LM2 is a bit different as there is a power wire with silver heat reflective material inline with the hoses as they connect to the can. I cut the ziptie holding the wire to add flexibility and ran the wire between the hoses. At the back of the can there is a sensor in the heater hose that is close to the can when installed. I plan to remove the passenger side wheel and fender liner for better access and see if I can tie the hose away from the can a little to prevent chafing.
Interesting observation, when I disconnected the stock hose from the turbo there was no sign of any oil. This is different than Greg's experience and my truck has 55,000 miles on it!
Did you have any luck keeping the heater core hose away from the can? Just went to install mine today and ran into this issue. Would be super slick if that sensor wasn't in the way!
Great video! Waiting for mine that I ordered back in March with original 3-4 week lead time. Emailed them yesterday and was told I'm 168th in their order queue and may be an additional 4-6 weeks if I'm lucky. Bummer!
hopefully it arrives soon !
now that you've looked at both vse and ppe catch can which do you like better? which do you believe would be easier for maintenance and ease of use? i plan on getting an 3.0 silverado with in the upcoming year and i defiantly want to add a catch can. your channel is defiantly going to be putting a dent in my wallet with all the stuff i plan o n ordering once i get my truck but they're defiantly necessary upgrades.
I'm not ready to make a full opinion yet. I would like to see the PPE installed later on then compare. I will definitely keep everyone posted.
im surprised there's a bypass in this setup.
Thank you for another great install video! I take all of your advice very seriously and I went ahead and ordered a pair of those pliers in anticipation of receiving my catch can. I’m excited to get mine and install it!
I looked through my Idash, and unless it’s labeled differently I didn’t see a setting for monitoring the crank case pressure line that you were looking at on the laptop.
Let me know how it goes and your thoughts!
Why would the manufacturer not build the motor with one of these and include the catch can as stock to the truck?
I personally think it’s because most owners wouldn’t have a clue on what to do and now you are creating a situation for the owner to have waste oil in their possession which now must be disposed of properly. Us truck/car folk are ok with those extra things, but many people like zero maintenance.
And it would be an extra cost to the manufacturer that isn’t necessary to keep the engine operating throughout the warranty period which they already seem to barely care about. They don’t care about your vehicle’s long term performance, maintenance costs, or lifespan. They care about selling you new vehicles and new parts when the warranty is over. Planned obsolescence benefits them, not you. These catch cans are for the long term benefit of your engine and downstream emissions system.
I had the same concern, why would the manufacturer offer these? I sure it could be possible with the other 2 reasons listed here. zero maintenance and cost
Does it mount correctly on a 2023 lm2 suburban?
I was told it does.
Ready for mine! I noticed an increase of oil consumption at around 20,000 miles for whatever reason.
That's an odd time to start consuming oil. keep an eye on it!
Not sure if it’s the same but around then mine started to lose/burn between a quarter and a half a qt per oil change. At 44k now.
@@DemonWorks I recently installed s&b oiled filter and ppe resonator delete. Maybe about 2,000 miles ago. Don’t know how/if that could be a factor.
Is the bypass provided so that owners who live somewhere that the temp goes below the freezing level , dont have a bigger problem.?
One of the reasons, yes.
So does this help the oil burning and “blow by” I see when I remove my oil cap when running ?
The "blow by" you see is 100% normal. This can will capture the oil from the vapors and keep it from going into your engine to be burned.
Does this mess with the factory warranty?
Technically, Yes. That goes for everything, even an aftermarket oil filter.
I just got my 2024 3.0 new I only put on 300 miles on it should I install the catch can right away or wait?
Is the oil accumulation a problem in emissions intact vehicles only or deleted vehicles as well?
It’s a concern for all 😬
Thanks! Definitely want to order this. Just waiting on your final review 😀
Been waiting for this!
Can you just add extension to drain tube, leave drain valve open, and drain to ground all the time?
Definitely do not do that. You can add an extension to it if you wanted then open the valve to drain then close, but you cannot have it open full time.
Still waiting on mine😂
Quick question- my LM0 burns zero oil at 75k miles...do I still need something like this?
Take the advice in the instructions. Get the hose clamp tool. Frustration is a PG way to describe how you'll feel if you don't 😂 waited over 3 months just to be pissed off on my weekend
Did the GM engineers design the engine to burn oil?
All modern engines are closed off, so they will inherently burn oil. This Duramax has the feed right at the turbo outlet, so it will pull it through.
Keep up the good work and thanks for your help demonwork
Thank you ! I appreciate the kind words !
Any idea as to when they are offered to the masses?
Link is in the description, you can order it now. They are filling the preorders right now, so you may be a few weeks out on getting it.
Hey, by chance, do you know if this is CARB compliant? Their website doesn't mention anything about the legality of it across the lower 48. California has some very stupid laws.
It is not, but I heard that is in the plans
@DemonWorks That's fantastic, I hope they do end up making it. I may just end up buying one anyway and pull it during inspections. Thanks for the fast reply. You got back to me faster than their customer service.
@@BakoRickglad I could help! Just an fyi, customer service may be out of commission for a little bit. They just had a tornado or two go through their state and are helping the search and rescue efforts. This came from Facebook posts.
@@DemonWorks Oh, thanks for the heads up. And that's very awesome of them! Makes me like that company even more.
Vse , what a scam!!
Order 5 weeks ago contact them 2 weeks after ordering they say it will be 2 to 3 weeks before shipping, and now they say multiple weeks out with no date to ship, called for a refund no response.
STAY AWAY!!
I'm assuming you do not follow them on social media? They provide updates on there often and with the recent tornado that ripped through their town, they were showing the work they were doing outside of their normal business to help get people in a good place. That being said, If you ordered 5 weeks ago, you were late to the ordering process and had quite a few people in front of you. They have also posted on social media prior to the tornado, that they were making them as quickly as possible and were behind. I'm confident they will get back to you on the refund, my youtube channel isn't where you will get that, though.
Looking forward to your review after using the can for a while. A little off topic: you said you don’t use any additives in your fuel. Any particular reason? I noticed the GM manual recommends additives. This is my first diesel so I’m just trying not to mess up too bad.
I will definitely doa. follow up on what I find. For the additives, no reason exactly, I just haven't purchased any to put in. You are correct on the owners manual recommending the use of additives. If you are going to keep the truck for a very long time, I don't see any reason not to run an additive, typically I would recommend hotshots EDT as it is the most popular: amzn.to/3w8foU9
I use archoil 6500 works great
I use Amsoil Diesel injector clean + Cetane boost 5 ounces every fill up from Costco top tier diesel fuel.
I’ve been running diesel Kleen, because it’s what I ran when I was running big truck and it never gave me any issues. White bottle in the winter, silver bottle in the summer, about a quarter a bottle in the tank per fill up.
I’ve been running diesel Kleen, because it’s what I ran when I was running big truck and it never gave me any issues. White bottle in the winter, silver bottle in the summer, about a quarter a bottle in the tank per fill up.
Anyone got anything about blowby? 2021 LM2
What are you looking for?
Well i have blow by on my 2021 lm2 with 84k. Wife has 21 Tahoe lm2 with 42k. Also does it?
You’re the pro but I’m pretty sure blowby shouldn’t happen on these motors?
Blow by comes with the engine from the factory. What you are seeing , I am assuming is some pressure and vapor from the oil cap when the engine is running. That’s inherent to the design of the diesel, it’s a nonissue. You have a crankcase pressure sensor to let you know if there is a major issue.
Thank you sir. YOUR A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE on these!
Just installed mine. Ended up going and buying the hose clamp pliers. Worth the price after trying with the wrong ones for an hour or so.
The lm2 has wires coming off the battery that kinda get in the way but we shall see
I installed mine last week. Haven't noticed any difference yet, but it's only been 100 miles.
Have you noticed any oil or water in your catch can?
I recently received my catch can and I have a problem. There are no instructions for the LM2 only the LZO. The hose configuration is totally different than the LZO. Has anyone else found the installation instructions for the LM2??
The hose configuration is identical, it’s the same camshaft cover. Are you certain you are looking at the correct hoses to attach to?
@@DemonWorks you connected your hoses at the firewall under the cowl, There are no hoses to connect to there on my 2022.5 LM2.
@@billm6850mine were connected to the hose coming off the camshaft cover for one. The other hose connected to the turbo where that prior hose was connected to. Nothing is connected to the firewall.
I think you misunderstood me not connecting to the firewall. Anyway thanks for your replies I just wasn’t seeing the hose with the powder blue hose clamp. I paused your video and saw you releasing the powder blue clamp.
@@billm6850yeah, I’m unsure on what is misunderstood with the install. The camshaft cover is the exact same from 20-24 and this catch can will attach to that exact same hose.
Thanks!
Thank you! Greatly appreciated !!!
Awsome design
How do you drain it?
18:18 it's shown
@@DemonWorks Thanks! I literally must've gotten up to get more coffee when that part came up!lol!
Super!
Mine burns a ton of oil, GM couldn’t give a shit.
P04DB code with this!!!
You got that code?
First thing I would suggest is to check your valve to make sure the lever is not open. The red lever should be at 90 degrees to the hose. If the lever is inline with the hose, then it is open and you will get that code. Just a suggestion.
@@DemonWorks I got that code, see my update from yesterday.
@@mattbissell2060which update? I must have missed it?
@@DemonWorksmy comment here posted 5 days ago and updated yesterday.
Why don't car manufactures include this in a $ 40,000 vehicle ??
most people cannot even handle taking the vehicle in for maintenance let alone drain a container. Then they have waste oil to dispose of, this is for the 1% that truly care about their vehicle.
@@DemonWorks But literally, couldn't you just pour it back into the oil pan?
Are the LZO engines using oil? Burning oil? I am thinking about buying one,just don’t want to buy one that does that. My dually with a HO Cummins doesn’t burn oil.
all 3.0 duramax engines have the possibility of using oil based on the pcv system design. The HO Cummins is made for a very different use than a 3.0 duramax.