Another great install video! Thanks for taking the time to show angles of the clamps and stuff. Your videos really make doing this stuff a lot easier in the garage. I went with the VSE, mainly because it came out first, but also because of the high quality of their fuel saver which I have installed. I found installing the kit even with the hose clamp pliers you recommend to still be really tight and a pain. It's really interesting how the two companies have such different design philosophies between the two kits. VSE specifically mentioned their can was located where it is based off of needing to keep the gases warm. PPE has gone the exact opposite route for the opposite reason, citing cooler temps helping to condense the moisture better. I don't anticipate changing my system over at this point, however I am eagerly awaiting your results to see if there is any noticable difference between the performance of the two cans. If there happens to be a big difference then maybe I'll consider it, but I seem to have a really tight engine like you do and I'm not seeing much in my current can.
Interesting on the Catch can. I have one for my 2013 ZL1.. and that can catches some serious oil. By way of comparison, this was barely a smidge. Will definitely consider it for my '24 ZR2 3.0L I just bought. Awesome material here.
Just got me a 2023 trailboss 3.0 last year. New to the diesel world. Love the videos. Very informative. I would love to start doing the PPE modifications to help with 3.0 issues. How will this affect factory warranties?
I just ordered the VSE kit last week, waiting on it due to backorder. I think I'm going to stick with it as it appears to be more compact and "put together" if that makes sense. This kit seems awkward, lots of hose connections and multi-piece components, the hose fittings are the cheap screw type that can cut hoses, the can appears to be plastic, and I don't see a bypass valve either. I know it's outside of the engine bay but still... for the money the can should be a metal part imho. I do like that the drain exits under the truck though.
Good point about the bypass valve. Maybe it’s not necessary in this one since I don’t see a way it could get clogged like the VSE one. I’m inclined to think this would be more effective by removing the can from most heat. You really want the oil vapor to condense in order to avoid sending it back through the return.
Looks clean! What made you change from the VSE catch can you had earlier? I like this PPE set-up better with the molded hoses, my concern is that with the can in the fender well instead of inside the warm engine bay, condensation freezing up in the catch can could cause issues (a big problem for me in northern Alberta where temps below -40 are common). I've replaced plenty of failed 3.8L Cummins engines from frozen CCV systems...
I swapped out from the other catch can for test purposes, I try to test everything on this channel. I asked PPE about the cold weather and they said it should be a non-issue.
I like their comment of saying it 'shouldn't' be an issue... it has either been tested in the conditions or it hasn't. Lol I guess you'll see if it does any better of a job than the VSE or not.
I have a '24 that has 800mi on it (and been at the shop for 45 days for a spring). I was dead set on ordering the PPE tube and silicone airbox elbow after I had watched your videos on it, but now I am wondering if its more beneficial for me to put on a catch can instead. I am torn between the VSE and PPE. I like the more OE look (provent) of the PPE, but the VSE looks like less stuff going on. I know on the Colorado Duramax diesels the Provent is what was used and it had great reviews. Any thoughts?
@@DemonWorks fair answer I was just curious I sent you a message on Facebook I installed some Ppe an S&b stuff recently curious your input on my question. I temporarily lost fuel mileage but maybe computer adjustment we will see. Either way I enjoy learning from your videos catch can will be added to mine I’m sure once available again
@@3wheelripper Sorry, social media messages sometimes get blended in. I will check it out. I would say the mpg drop is normal as I had the same results. In addition, often the dash will show better numbers but then hand calculated will show a loss. The only intake I "broke even" on was the K&N but that was under certain circumstances only.
@@DemonWorks I just did a couple of the mods just to let the truck breathe a little better and see if I notice any positive gains. I had some oil in my stock resonator when I removed and that was my question and concern. I’m so used to the bigger diesels an older ones. Full exhaust bigger intake an a tuner so this is a learning curve so I’ll will continue on this journey watching your videos
What made you switch to this one over the other one you installed awhile ago? Also would you recommend this for the 2.7l Turbo 4 banger gasser from Chevy? My old jeeps had a ton of build up and I don’t want that on my new truck.
Does it look like the liquid/oil has to move "uphill" for a bit? Physics? Seems like the manufacturer needs their own catch-can that drains down to the side of the oil pan and can be serviced from that location while the hoses are all downhill to the can and then only vapors are traveling back upwards to the turbo.
I agree with your thoughts. Unfortunately this is a compromise between function and ease of access. It’s still better than the nothing that GM provides us. The oil that would likely drain back “down hill” towards the CCV would just be what condenses in the hose when the system is cold and in those final seconds of shutdown. The possible oil running back down the hose and into the turbo is hopefully negligible as it’s from the air leaving the catch can and hopefully is void or significantly reduced of oil/water vapor. Still way less than the potential quantify of oil going in there when not using a catch can at all.
Your VSE catch can trapped very little oil as you demonstrated. I would expect the PPE will provide the same result but time will tell. Nice install video BTW. 👍How have your REGENS been after running the Archoil 6400D additive? I just added it to my LZ0 but it hasn’t gone through a REGEN yet.
I am assuming the same as well for the capture amount, but time will tell. My regens are slowly declining to below 300 per regen. I will be starting some additive treatments at every fill up pretty soon.
@@GaryPeck-o6i I certainly agree that can blow seals. I just think the design of this one couldn’t allow stoppage of the air flow unless it was 100% full to the top with liquid
@@DemonWorks yes when I click the link it says $562.00. Probably CAD in USD it’s 399.00. I would like to see a video of a 5000-6000 miles interval of these catch cans and how much they collect. Again love the videos and love the information on these motors.
I’m betting the large screen (increased surface area) on this provent design helps the oil and water vapor to precipitate out better than the VSE model. I do like the large diameter hoses that reduce friction loss of the air moving thru the hose, and that probably allows for the smaller openings in the screen. Looks like a smart approach to maximize the ability of the can to actually facilitate the drop out of the oil/water from the CCV system.
Omg!!!! Let’s gooooooo
Staying tuned for testing! Best 3.0 duramax channel out there!!!
Another great install video! Thanks for taking the time to show angles of the clamps and stuff. Your videos really make doing this stuff a lot easier in the garage.
I went with the VSE, mainly because it came out first, but also because of the high quality of their fuel saver which I have installed. I found installing the kit even with the hose clamp pliers you recommend to still be really tight and a pain. It's really interesting how the two companies have such different design philosophies between the two kits. VSE specifically mentioned their can was located where it is based off of needing to keep the gases warm. PPE has gone the exact opposite route for the opposite reason, citing cooler temps helping to condense the moisture better.
I don't anticipate changing my system over at this point, however I am eagerly awaiting your results to see if there is any noticable difference between the performance of the two cans. If there happens to be a big difference then maybe I'll consider it, but I seem to have a really tight engine like you do and I'm not seeing much in my current can.
Interesting on the Catch can.
I have one for my 2013 ZL1.. and that can catches some serious oil.
By way of comparison, this was barely a smidge.
Will definitely consider it for my '24 ZR2 3.0L I just bought.
Awesome material here.
Great video. Since you have used both, which of these do you prefer? The VSE or the PPE?
Interesting engineering difference between this and the VSE. Different approaches to avoid CEL. Time will tell which one proves to edge out the other.
That's crazy how tight that is.
Just got me a 2023 trailboss 3.0 last year. New to the diesel world. Love the videos. Very informative. I would love to start doing the PPE modifications to help with 3.0 issues. How will this affect factory warranties?
I just ordered the VSE kit last week, waiting on it due to backorder. I think I'm going to stick with it as it appears to be more compact and "put together" if that makes sense. This kit seems awkward, lots of hose connections and multi-piece components, the hose fittings are the cheap screw type that can cut hoses, the can appears to be plastic, and I don't see a bypass valve either. I know it's outside of the engine bay but still... for the money the can should be a metal part imho. I do like that the drain exits under the truck though.
Good point about the bypass valve. Maybe it’s not necessary in this one since I don’t see a way it could get clogged like the VSE one. I’m inclined to think this would be more effective by removing the can from most heat. You really want the oil vapor to condense in order to avoid sending it back through the return.
Looks clean! What made you change from the VSE catch can you had earlier? I like this PPE set-up better with the molded hoses, my concern is that with the can in the fender well instead of inside the warm engine bay, condensation freezing up in the catch can could cause issues (a big problem for me in northern Alberta where temps below -40 are common). I've replaced plenty of failed 3.8L Cummins engines from frozen CCV systems...
I swapped out from the other catch can for test purposes, I try to test everything on this channel. I asked PPE about the cold weather and they said it should be a non-issue.
@DemonWorks
Nice video, little concern about hoses going over the battery, will make replacing the battery harder?
I like their comment of saying it 'shouldn't' be an issue... it has either been tested in the conditions or it hasn't. Lol
I guess you'll see if it does any better of a job than the VSE or not.
@@sierracatfeel free to call them if it’s a concern, I’m just here to show the product and install.
Cluldnt you also jusy cap the return barn by the turbo? And route the return gas to atmosphere with one if those little cold air looking filters?
You cannot, the crankcase pressure sensor would go nuts. Also, that's against the law.
@@DemonWorks thank you for letting me know of that. So I don't do it when I eventually get this part lol
I have a '24 that has 800mi on it (and been at the shop for 45 days for a spring). I was dead set on ordering the PPE tube and silicone airbox elbow after I had watched your videos on it, but now I am wondering if its more beneficial for me to put on a catch can instead. I am torn between the VSE and PPE. I like the more OE look (provent) of the PPE, but the VSE looks like less stuff going on. I know on the Colorado Duramax diesels the Provent is what was used and it had great reviews. Any thoughts?
I prefer the look of the VSE setup but I agree that the VSE looks more simple, in a good way.
Great install video. Curious why no Ppe intake pipe or resonator delete currently installed in this video?
Thanks ! I have been running the truck in stock form for a while to also provide videos and info for people without modified trucks.
@@DemonWorks fair answer I was just curious I sent you a message on Facebook I installed some Ppe an S&b stuff recently curious your input on my question. I temporarily lost fuel mileage but maybe computer adjustment we will see. Either way I enjoy learning from your videos catch can will be added to mine I’m sure once available again
@@3wheelripper Sorry, social media messages sometimes get blended in. I will check it out. I would say the mpg drop is normal as I had the same results. In addition, often the dash will show better numbers but then hand calculated will show a loss. The only intake I "broke even" on was the K&N but that was under certain circumstances only.
@@DemonWorks I just did a couple of the mods just to let the truck breathe a little better and see if I notice any positive gains. I had some oil in my stock resonator when I removed and that was my question and concern. I’m so used to the bigger diesels an older ones. Full exhaust bigger intake an a tuner so this is a learning curve so I’ll will continue on this journey watching your videos
The 3.0 with the harness/sensor over the battery looks like the hoses would rub on that.
My initial video showed it on the LM2. ruclips.net/video/-FDwxJ5ANIQ/видео.html
What made you switch to this one over the other one you installed awhile ago? Also would you recommend this for the 2.7l Turbo 4 banger gasser from Chevy? My old jeeps had a ton of build up and I don’t want that on my new truck.
Does it look like the liquid/oil has to move "uphill" for a bit? Physics? Seems like the manufacturer needs their own catch-can that drains down to the side of the oil pan and can be serviced from that location while the hoses are all downhill to the can and then only vapors are traveling back upwards to the turbo.
I agree with your thoughts. Unfortunately this is a compromise between function and ease of access. It’s still better than the nothing that GM provides us. The oil that would likely drain back “down hill” towards the CCV would just be what condenses in the hose when the system is cold and in those final seconds of shutdown. The possible oil running back down the hose and into the turbo is hopefully negligible as it’s from the air leaving the catch can and hopefully is void or significantly reduced of oil/water vapor. Still way less than the potential quantify of oil going in there when not using a catch can at all.
Did you remove all the updates? Or is this a diffrent truck?
where are all the aftermarket parts? air intake etc.. or is my timeline off?
It looks exactly like a Provent 200
It IS the ProVent, just with custom hoses, brackets, and their little catch can reservoir.
Only reason I stops was cause I saw the O’s logo…lol.
does the length of the hoses have any impact?
Do All the LZ0’s wiring harness above the turbo shoot back to the firewall or is that something @demonworks did? In my lm2 that harness shot across.
That's a LM2 vs LZ0 thing, I haven't changed anything.
Your VSE catch can trapped very little oil as you demonstrated. I would expect the PPE will provide the same result but time will tell. Nice install video BTW. 👍How have your REGENS been after running the Archoil 6400D additive? I just added it to my LZ0 but it hasn’t gone through a REGEN yet.
I am assuming the same as well for the capture amount, but time will tell. My regens are slowly declining to below 300 per regen. I will be starting some additive treatments at every fill up pretty soon.
Does it fit a 2023 suburban?
Already sold out
Wow, I filmed this video about 3 hours before it was uploaded. They sold out quick, I would expect another batch to return within a few weeks.
I just got word from PPE they will be in stock in 14 days more or less.
@@DemonWorks you prefer this over the vse?
ofcourse it’s temporarily OOS😂
No bypass scares me
I’m not sure it would need one since the separator is fairly distant from the can itself
@@BabyGators I’m convinced my 6.2 rear main seal blew out because my UPR catch can froze a bypass would have prevented that I suppose
@@GaryPeck-o6i I certainly agree that can blow seals. I just think the design of this one couldn’t allow stoppage of the air flow unless it was 100% full to the top with liquid
bypass is built into the can. I have a full teardown video up from a few months ago. You can also search for the provent 200
Already temporarily Out of Stock.
Wow, I filmed this video about 3 hours before it was uploaded. They sold out quick, I would expect another batch to return within a few weeks.
I just got word from PPE they will be in stock in 14 days more or less.
Thanks for the update. Enjoyed the video.
I’m sorry I love your channel but for $600 😂 not a chance.
ummm .... it's not $600 ... nowhere near ....
@@DemonWorks yes when I click the link it says $562.00. Probably CAD in USD it’s 399.00. I would like to see a video of a 5000-6000 miles interval of these catch cans and how much they collect. Again love the videos and love the information on these motors.
I’m betting the large screen (increased surface area) on this provent design helps the oil and water vapor to precipitate out better than the VSE model. I do like the large diameter hoses that reduce friction loss of the air moving thru the hose, and that probably allows for the smaller openings in the screen. Looks like a smart approach to maximize the ability of the can to actually facilitate the drop out of the oil/water from the CCV system.