Ok, just know that both Dr.Berg and Kresser have worked in highly recognized areas in the field of medicines Dr.Berg is a legit member of some prestigious groups in medicine and has been affiliated with mad places. Do more research on where they’ve worked and whom with. Kresser and Berg as far as accolades have much more and are much respected in the medical community.
I quit my job as a butcher this week after 34 years.I can’t knowingly poison customers and cause animal brutality.. I went vegan 3 months ago and I haven’t looked back the benefits medically are amazing we have been fed a lie since the day we were born. ✌️
@@antebellum1776 i am born vegan and never taken supplements lol. Everyone takes supplements bc it's not humanely possible in today's society to get all nutrients clown
@@lisanyugenhascancer6332 Born vegan haha so wtf is breast milk. And it's just not possible to get all the required nutrients on a vegan diet. And it is possible to get all the nutrients in today's society. Just eat appropriately.
How many supplements get you animals? And where does the protein come from? Are they eating plants? Humans are Herbivores by design. You can't change that. Not even with money, sponsorship and lies
Tremendous interview! Dr. Kahn is one of our most articulate and gifted cardiologists and I’m hopeful this will help to get him more recognition for his contributions. Especially since heart disease is the number one killer. Kudos, Dr. Kahn!
After watching some Gregor vids, yeah Kahn is prob the best on the vegan side of the fence. Gregor is a nutjob that looks like he's going to die young.
Vegan five years. I suffered from metabolic syndrome (obesity, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and high blood sugar). I went whole food plant based no sugar or oil and low salt and I lost 65 pounds, all my conditions greatly improved, my gums stopped bleeding, and erections and energy returned. I used to have an appetite that was never satisfied; whole foods cured it. I no longer use a sleep apnea machine. Finally, the food is cheap-Beans, lentils, sprouted flourless grain bread, rice, potatoes and seasonal apples. Also, I save money by not having to buy pills or visit the Doctor. I am thankful to all the vegans who suffered attacks to reveal the truth to me.
As a cardiologist, I can say this cardiologist is 100% legit and doing great service to society. I'm a vegetarian, maybe time to go vegan for me. Data is data.
Ajay Reddy What about the data that we’ve been eating 80-90% animal protein/fat based diet for 2 million years without cardiac problems. What about data from Egypt showing that they were all cardiac from 80-90% grain based diet?
Because so many people are susceptible to falling into cults of personality, especially when the talking head promotes ideas that support the followers' biases. Because of this, Joe has a lot of influence, unfortunately.
Day 26 as a vegan and feelin’ fine!! Never felt less weighed down or bloated in my life. The amount of energy is crazy. So happy I woke up to all of this.
Citizenthirteen I did it a bit in stages - cut out beef and pork almost 2 years ago. Started incorporating vegetarian and vegan meals scattered, then a bit more regularly. Then this recent change was the final push - poultry, eggs, fish, and dairy are gone! My stomach was terrible on a regular basis before all these changes, so any adjustment period for my gut bacteria has gone unnoticed haha. Really just feeling improvements daily Slowly adjusting my lifestyle to switch all my leather & clothing products over to vegan friendly versions. I actually switched most of my bathroom products a few months ago anyway - also got rid of all those chemicals!! And switched to plant based, cruelty free.
Did you see the article published on CNN website saying vegetarians and vegans have higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke? Thoughts on this and prevention?
@@The-Rain-Ninja I saw this but they had vegans and vegetarians in the same group? Seems a bit odd as Veggies eat dairy and eggs and vegans don't. Not sure they should be put in the same group any more than meat eaters and vegetarians should.
@@The-Rain-Ninja I'd first assume that the "vegetarians and vegans" is including the french fry and Oreo vegans rather than WFPB vegans. In that case, the group is still getting too much sat fat, trans fat, salt, sugar, etc. to reflect the "Plant Based News" community. But let's go with it... While that may be statistically true that vegans have a higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke, it is also true that fewer vegans have heart attacks, ischemic strokes, cancer, etc. But vegans aren't going to live forever, we'll eventually die of something. So what will be on my death certificate? Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if I died in my 90s as a result of a hemorrhagic stroke. My grandfather ate the SAD and died of a hemorrhagic stroke in his early 70s after suffering for years from atherosclerosis, open heart surgery, carotid artery surgery, etc. May have the same thing on my death certificate, but I'm hoping for many more quality years before that happens. That's where statistics can be a bitch. If you have a study group of n=2 with a 50yo omnivore dropping dead of a heart attack after being disabled for the previous 5 years after his first heart attack and the other is a 90yo vegan who dies of a hemorrhagic stroke after enjoying decades of excellent health. The flawed conclusion of the study would be that vegans have a much higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke. Or I might get hit by a car (again) when I'm out running... NEWS FLASH: "Vegans have Higher Risk of Getting Hit by Cars--Should Eat Fish for Traffic Safety"
@Rap Fan Businessman I recommend no. They are processed. While yes, they are vegan, they are not WFPB. A couple resources for you, Nutritionfacts.org And the DailyDozen app
I've been meat free for 5 years now. I'm 53 years old at 6ft 3 and 185 lbs. I follow the McDougall method of plenty of starches in my diet. I feel and look great and I literally just got home from Rocky Mountain Fitness where I picked myself up a new 90 lb kettle bell because my 75 lb one wasn't cutting anymore......lol of course according to the meat and dairy industries I'll be dead soon because of my lack of calcium and protein.......lmao 😉
Brian, so you are vegan. That is great. You know what regret every vegan has? I am sure you know it. Regret: "I should have been vegan way sooner." That is my regret for sure.
Charles Poliquin and I used to go back and forth about various different exercises and diet. We never agreed on the Military press and Ultimately, his diet killed him. He died young, extremely young for a fitnesses Professional. 😕 He’s mentioned in this video. Regardless if it is Biomechanics or Diet, good science is good science. Bad science is usually industry funded and MSM promoted.
@Citizenthirteen And you are following the vegan president Jay Dinshah who died of heart attack...who are the pigheaded stubborn low IQ individuals who just cannot admit they are wrong.
@Citizenthirteen Guarantee? How? You know that vegans have very low percentage population compared to meat eaters which means 1 million against billions. And you know that you are including every junkfood eaters as meat eaters but in reality, junkfoods are mostly plant based.
@Citizenthirteen Look at you vegans. You drew first blood, and you gloat at it, but when somebody threw the same to your face, you cry foul. You are the one in denial. The science you are talking about are mostly epidemiological....science thru questionaires!!!
I've been plant based since 2013 and I'm sure it saved my life. I listen to Joe Rogan's podcast (some of them) because of the interesting guests he interviews. His interview style leads to very open conversations. I felt the "debate" style show he had with Dr. Joel Kahn was terrible frankly, as Dr. Kahn was pitted against a guy who constantly talked over him and refuted the real facts. It was not a serious conversation or debate - it was more of a competition to see who could talk over the other with the same talking points over and over. I don't think Dr. Kahn was the best spokesperson to have for the Plant based argument either, and he seemed poorly prepared for the onslaught of broscience being thrown at him repeatedly. Dr. Greger could have been more interesting, and he probably would have remembered a lot more technical data when challenged. Dr. Pam Popper would have been a solid choice. Dr. Esselstyn or Campbell may have argued their case better, but they also aren't very good speakers. Dr. McDougall would have been a poor choice too, but hilarious because he has a short fuse. Joe Rogan seems quite willing to admit when he is wrong, he has an open mind about most topics, except this one...he loves his bow hunting, MMA, and he takes testosterone replacement so he can feel like a 21 year old still. He's kind of a super macho guy. I believe his hatred for veganism is his perception that it is un-manly. I think there's lots of men who feel that way (I did at one time, when I was much younger and dumber). I Wish we could figure out how to change that attitude in general.
Long though it was, I listened to most of the nearly four hours of so-called debate. I thought Joe Rogan was fair, and Chris Kressler made some excellent, well-spoken points. In my opinion he won--hands down. Now before you jump all over me, I've been vegetarian for more than 80 percent of my life, and recently went completely vegan. I chose a side long ago and I'm sticking to it. That said, why say things like 0:00, and 4:22? I think we should stay focused, succinct, and be respectful. I think Joe Rogan chooses his debaters strategically. But certainly, he asked good questions and did a great job facilitating.
A diet debate is not about winning or losing. That's the wrong attitude imo. Its about sharing data, research and experience in their chosen fields. It's not a one bill fits all.
I’m vegan and I like Joe Rogan’s podcast. People hating on joe over a single disagreement need to chill the fuck out. Nobody is going to get everything right. Imo just take the advice which you believe to be beneficial to your life and discard the rest.
Maybe I'm over-sharing private details about my life, but I can attest to what vegans claim: I tried carnivore diet for two weeks back in the beginning of the year. What did I get: kidney stones and a noticeable decline in sexual function. Did I lose weight? Sure did, but at what cost? What was all that animal protein and fat doing to my veins and arteries? I went back to a pretty standard diet and saw no improvements in the following 8 to 10 months. Now, in just 7 days of meat-free diet, I'm seeing an impressive improvement in my sexual function, besides having more energy and reducing my waistline. I'm very excited about the benefits in my health. My cardiologist "threatened" to put me on statins in case I did not lower my cholesterol levels. I should see him in one month and I'm pretty curious what the results of my next check-up are going to be.
Seems like people are becoming awfully willing to tell themselves good news about their bad habits. After all if one vegan is a jerk, that totally justifies me eating as much meat as I want right?? 😂 Thanks PBN! 🙏🏼😄🥦🍌🍎
@@ConGamePro that is a very flimsy reason to be vegan. Yeah, most people like to be affirmed of their horrible animal "product" choices so they like shills like rogan, kresser, and faker.
Joe Rogan is not very manly if he’s so terrified of fruit and veg eaters that he has to hold hands with the meat industry. It’s ok Joe we’re not going to hurt you, we just want to save your life.
@Citizenthirteen Well the ussr and china are pseudocommunist forms of government. Real communism means worker coops, unions, democratization of the workplace, and the oligarchs have way less power. USSA
@Citizenthirteen @citizenthirteen: do you mean the bully tactics of the meat industry? When will we reach a tipping point where the lies of the meat industry will force mainstream media to address it?!
@@badcooper235 @Moon Wolf you're mistaken about the self righteous narcism- it was actually sarcasm. That's ok though we'll just chalk it up to your fatty cholesterol levels blocking the oxygen to your brain making you sound ignorant 😀
I am 64 and I have not eaten meat or dairy for nearly 60 yrs...I couldn't even tell you what my doctor looks like,I haven't seen one in more then 50 yrs which was the last time I had antibiotics....I am never ill, I feel fit and light, and have lovely skin ...I have never been over weight and feel well rested after only 6-7 hrs sleep each night.......we all make our own choices and this was mine,and I don't have any regrets ...x
VEGAN for 34 years 62 years young, total cholesterol 141, hight 6'3" weight 185 lbs lean mean lots of energy. I never loocked back! Vegan is the way for health, for the animals, and for the planet!
I like Dr. Kahn. We need more people of influence to not only push back against the meat industry and their puppets, but to do it aggressively. People's lives, and this planet, are at stake here. Let's stop tip toeing around the "meat-heads".
im 38 and a vegan three years now and ive never been healthier and more energetic even when i was a teenager i could never do what i did now when it comes to exercise and stamina. my clarity is amazing
Because The Joe Rogan podcast is to young men, what Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop website is to young women. They’re looking for guidance in a fcukd up world and anyone famous who sounds like they know what they’re talking about, draws them like moths to a porch light.
@@TheCaptaineustass you need to never speak in public again. your level of idiot should also never procreate. for the good of the human species - never talk again
I had a history of severe stomach pain as a kid so became vegan from a young age. Back in 1995, I was 26 yo, I went to a BBQ that only had sausages and steaks. Against my better judgment I had sausages and bread (no alcohol) and landed up in hospital with acute pancreatitis that never went. I ended up needing a whipples operation. I realise this is just my personal situation and story but I have since met many people especially young women who have got cholecystitis and pancreatitis from eating meat or exacerbated by eating meat. I now struggle eating anything due to the surgery but a mouthful of meat and I’m sick all over again. Just my experience.
After being keto for 4 years and feeling like I'm 20 (I'm currently 50), I decided to go full carnivore, and I now feel like I'm 15! My bloodwork is excellent, I poop like a super hero (soft brown snakes), I never lack energy, AND I have zero stress. Dr Kahn: I live in Northville (I recently heard that you do as well). If you have any interest in studying health, I'm more than happy to volunteer! :)
@@Ryan_hey It stands to reason that if Snikkelbek wouldn't buy a used car from the man then he DEFINITELY wouldn't take health advice from him either. I'm pretty sure that's the sentiment his comment was implying. Myself, I'd definitely buy a Cardi from him...even if his last name IS con.
@@TheRealChilly Which makes no sense because he has no financial investment in the plant food industry other than a couple restaurants. Not sure how that could every be considered "slimy". The man was the only 1 of the 3 trying to keep the peace through the entire debate.
@@Ryan_hey but how can you vehemently believe he has no financial backing from vegan enterprises. You'd have to be his accountant to prove such claims. He's well known in the vegan community, but that doesn't prove he's not a businessman like everyone else. He has how many books, speaking gigs, etc. That's big money.
No meat for over 32 years. I'm 72 year old, no diet related illnesses. I'll never, ever go back to the standard american diet and I don't eat vegan junk food either. WFPB makes me feel great and my doctor is impressed. I'm hooked.
Andy G no you do not. You lose glycogen because your carbs are low. The minute you refers some carbs you will store water and glycogen in your muscles making them larger again.
Engi_Nerd I’d be interested to know how old Joe Rogan is, I must admit. I don’t know if he looks his age or not, but he is very red and flushed - he certainly looks as if he might have high blood pressure.
@@Melissa.Garrett None of the symptoms of high blood pressure are plainly visible, so you are just projecting your biases and speculating. This is similar to how people like to judge thin and healthy vegans as being malnourished. Plant-based advocates should stick to the numerous factual benefits, and not get caught up in the smear-tactics that meatheads (like Joe) rely on.
Great video. I been vegan coming up on 4 years now and doing great. It's so awesome to see veganism getting more attention. I'm excited for The Game Changers! We got our tickets and I'm just stoked to see the positive changes to come. More people will be exposed to know the truth and lives will change!💕
Even though being Indian- a country which is mainly vegetarian but highly dependent on dairy, I really hope this wave catches on as I see many people around me turning to meat based diets. This is not a diet tbh..It's a lifestyle.
I went vegetarian a month ago, stopped having acid reflux and off the medication for that condition for the first time in years , I started after watching Hogwood a modern horror story on Netflix it shows the pitifully low standards in British meat and dairy farming. But now I'm cured of my condition ! . I'll stay a veggie now ,
This doctor tells the truth and I'm so grateful for people like him. I look 10 to 20 years younger than my age and Joe Rogan looks his age. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but for some meat eaters to bash vegans about their health is absolutely misinforming the public.
Dr. Kahn, I like your stance. You give people credit, you give the benefit of the doubt and you leave it up to the listener to make up their mind. It’s refreshing!!
@@g41133 Those death camps are as evil as what the nazis did. But come to think of it, this is faaaar worse because more deaths are caused by those "industries". yes we do and u r 10000000000000000000% right!
Love plant based news but this is a bit sensationalized. Joe Rogan is sponsored by Butcher Box (grass feed beef), and Kettle Fire (bone broth ). 2 companies = the meat industry? He has like 20 something other sponsors too.
@@Melissa.Garrett those tv chefs use copious amounts of tortured, dismembered and dead animals for their recipes. They make it sounds natural and wholesome. But it is not a commercial, it is a show where brainwashing ensues. TV = Tell LIE vision
he looks like someone his age when you compare him to people his age that also eat meat and dairy. it's true that not all vegans look young but most people who are vegans look much younger at 52.
@@Galanty - trust? You can enjoy listening to someone and their guests without agreeing with everything they say. What's trust got to do with anything? Think for yourself. Research for yourself. Unless you're looking for some kind of religion where you abdicate all responsibility for yourself and hand over your autonomy to someone else that has won your trust. Listening to what people who disagree with you say is good for you. It avoids the echo chamber guru cult scenario.
I'm plant based. Many videos of vegans changing and eating meat show people that ate organic whole based plant based foods with fat and not snack food as was suggested. Charles poliquin died of a congenital disease and lived longer than his bro who had same issue
What about the effects of oxalic acids? Oxalates can inhibit iron absorption. I'm vegan, but I have to get my main calorie source from fruit (RIPE banana smoothies) because it's the only way I can get carbs (and thus enough calories) without high oxalic acid content. I also have to be very choosy about my greens, which are also super important for my daily calcium/phosphorous ratios to stay 1:1 (whole orange mono meals also seem to help with this since they have more calcium than OJ). Bok choy and soft leafy greens like romaine and green/red leaf have ideal ratios without the high oxalate content. I don't get kidney stones, but they do run in my family and I get other symptoms that most people don't equate to oxalates. Rich meaty smelling urine, low energy, skin dullness/ acne and teeth problems. I think a lot of people fail the vegan diet due to eating too many oxalates (nuts, spinach, chard, grains etc) as well as poor calcium to phosphorous ratios. I will say, my whole life, my digestion has been compromised due to lack of overall fitness (skinny fat), poor posture/weak core as well as lack of enough sleep. How much sleep someone gets, and how strong of a core and level of physical fitness are huge factors in how well we digest and absorb food, and I think is vastly overlooked.
hello there, i dont know if this will maybe help u a bit or not re: oxalates in greens inhibiting iron absorption? i too was worried about this as i drink quite a lot of raw green leafy's daily & ive always had very low iron. i pack about 300-350 grams of raw kale and spinach down into my vitamix till its firmly three quarters full. Then i add as much pineapple as i can fit on top, (cos its the best mask ive found for the taste of those giant kale & giant spinach leaves) Plus some berries (whatevers cheapest) & some apple & raw carrot (always got em in fridge for horse treats) & a big chunk of turmeric root on top. (w/the accompanying black pepper & Tbs chia seeds or ground flax.) I only include turmeric root since a neighbour gave me a whole pillow case full of the stuff! So then i pour water in till its an inch from the top, shoving chopstix down side of blender to make path thru dense kale forest for water to trickle down. I drink the whole blender full, usually in a day, then make it again next day. Sometimes i still have some left on day 2 so wont make a new smoothy till the next day. Its clockwork for me now on at least 5 mornings a week, as part of my transition to whole food vegan 8 months ago - from junk-food vegan for years B4 that. ive lost 20 kgs during the 8 months plus my digestion is now Brilliant! But the best bit is i just got my bloods done and my iron is now up there with THE GOOD LEVELS! For the first time in my life! Thyroid liver & kidneys are also all great & cholesterol is lowest its ever been! (3.9 Australian =just under 150?) The rest of my diet is more like "The Starch Solution" & like u, i dont sleep enough and have a weak core. (only walk for exercise) PS... i drink 2-3 cups soy milk & at least 3 litres water a day. (water & calcium are supposed to help flush out oxalates) This is the best ive ever felt! Good Luck to you hun!
Vegan facts and logic ? Sorry mate but veganism is the closest diet to religion I have ever seen. Lookup the links between the Seventh Day Adventist church and veganism, bloody hilarious that you guys have bought this crap.
@@richardsearcher3540 Clearly you missed out on the intelligence package when it was being handed out in the maternity ward since there's no such thing as "vegan facts and logic" in the same way there's no such thing as "mensa member facts and logic" or "genius facts and logic". All facts and logic are just facts and logic. Additionally, you obviously don't have a clue what veganism is. Seventh Day Adventist church ≠ veganism in the same way that the Mormons ≠ carnism. Do you actually have anything intelligent to add to this thread? I would like to actually hear a cogent argument from you.
@@LouisGedo I am sorry to hear that intelligence is an optional extra now days but I would certainly recommend that you take yours back as you have been cheated. Perhaps you might try a little reading (is that possible?), the following review published by members of the SDA church "The Global Influence of the Seventh Day Adventist Church on Diet" dated 22nd August 2018. In this review they celebrate the churches success over the last 140 years to change western society to a "garden of eden diet" (vegan) so Jesus will come back to start the millennium. The SDA church and it's members own Kellogg, Sanitarium and 17 of the world's largest cereal companies, 117 medical and nutrition universities and are the second largest church owned educators after the Catholic church. They actively fund studies that support their point of view and also fund the opposition to anyone daring to question their message. But I suppose that facts don't matter when it comes to ideology do they ?
@@richardsearcher3540 Clearly you didn't learn a thing from my previous important comment. Your argument suffers from a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy......you've conflated casual relationship with casual relationship. Back to the drawing board for you, precious cupcake.
I was raised vegan macrobiotic and ate this way for over 25 years and suffered with terrible eczema and aches. Been carnivore for a while now and I am symptom free, high energy levels, focused and sleep much better. My labs look great, CRP came down to normal, lipids are amazing..APoA and ApoB are super good. LDL slightly high, total cholesterol is whitin range, triglycerides are under 50 and HDL is 72. I have monitored my labs every three monthes since starting this way of eating. Most importantly I feel better than ever.
Anecdotal evidence, I’ve heard way more stories of people who were raised on meat/dairy that had many health issues before switching to a plant-based diet. How do you think the animals feel? (The ones forcibly impregnated, confined, abused and murdered for you.)
@@denmc7028 The difference is that killing animals to protect your crops is unavoidable unless you want to starve to death. However, farming animals for food is completely unnecessary. Its just killing for pleasure, because you enjoy the taste not because you need to eat it. Animal products are optional for survival. There’s no reason we need to eat them when we can get our nutrition from far more ethical sources. Furthermore, feed for animals requires more farmland than just using it directly for crops that people can eat. That means your going to kill many more animals, in addition to the ones you are farming, in the process of protecting your fields, because their is more farmland in use than otherwise. At the end of the day, your killing less animals if your population gets its calories from plants. If you exist suffering is simply unavoidable. The question is how much of a suffering footprint you leave behind, that’s what matters. Less suffering is a good thing.
@@DenseCortex killing for pleasure ? Killing for nourishment. Killing for what my body is suppose to eat . All animals suffer when they die. When a predatory animal kills a deer it suffers greatly . There are videos of bears eating deer alive . When a deer is killed by a human it usually takes one shot and no suffering . When a cow is killed it is one shot . Please keep eating your mono cropped toxic plants . I will keep eating my beef and other meats .
Lol like 50 % of the comments here starts with "i'm vegan" and the other half is people congratulating them for being vegan. It's so freaking odd, it's like AA-meeting but no one is actually interesting.
I found the comment about Joe Rogan looking older than his age to be completely unnecessary, especially coming from a highly educated health physician. Why create such sensational headlines?
I just don’t understand how everyone talks about the science when in fact the science they’re referring to is “food questionnaires” show me a clinical study, an experimental study or anything non observatory.
Joe Rogan is Obsessed with the Vegan diet, he knows damn well people can and will thrive on a Whole Foods plant based diet, he would loose so much if he publicly admitted it...
Theo Vs Theo I don’t think he would lose much, most people who follow Joe aren’t doing it because he is a meat eater, his content is extremely varied, it isn’t a healthy based podcast.
Logan Hartsock he repeatedly has Doctors and “nutritionists” on his podcast man are you kidding me?! I’ve been listing to JRE since the start of his podcast years ago, I’ve seen the change first hand, he definitely has a agenda
Seriously 😳.. come on dude Im older then Joe .. and Joe is also on TRT hahaha 😂 .. what a Joke .. and now Joe is on the carnivore diet too .. speaking of shortening your lifespan and looking old .. saw mark bell recently too .. looks like shit ..all black and blue under his eyes wow 😳 And these guys try to tell us about diet ? What a laughter 🤓
cliff onator well he is wealthy so I’m sure he eats quality meats all the time. A lot different when your meat diet constists of fast food and frozen section at a food market. He also spends a lot of his money on his health.
It was not a debate between Joe Rogan Dr. Khan. It was a discussion between Khan and Chris Kresser and Joe was the moderator. Number two, everyone should listen to the entire podcast.
I love Joe and his capability to learn and hold conversations with anyone. I'm a huge fan in that regard. Is he biased? Yes, we all are to an extent. But I do agree he looks kind of swollen, and not from working out.
@@Sammy-ox1my not biased. as none of its his own thoughts. he has to follow an agenda. he is a swindler, a shill. --- the old joe rogan was biased. the new joe rogan is not.
@@Sammy-ox1my do you know how much rogan makes from george soros a podcast? 250k. now all you have to do is look into the george soros agenda. theres a reason why joe rogan stopped live streaming his pod casts.. he cannot upset his handlers and release something that gets such a negative outlook, like the twitter ceo podcast that finally woke a majority of people up to joe rogans shill ways.
"He looks older than his age" - what a shitty argument for not eating meat. If you have any idea what he has done in his life and how hard he works, you can give him a break on his looks.
To be honest I respect that guy who is vegan that debated with Joe Rogan but I do not respect Joe Rogan because he doesn’t know what he is speaking about most of the times and he criticize vegans like myself and I am very excited about the game changers documentary.
It's so obvious in hindsight. The strategy was to focus on a single point they thought they could win, and then declare a full scale victory (even if they'd lose every other point). When debating people on veganism or climate change I find that strategy continually. Any point I will make, they just stop arguing without conceding the point. And the keep throwing more and more arguments, and I keep deflecting them, and their hope is just to score that one point and then celebrate having won the entire argument.
I am vegan and, prior to switching, my doctor came up with a fresh health plan listing the vegan diet and NO statins, but he could not resist throwing in daily aspirin, "for insurance". He also added a protein levels test to ensure I was getting enough. Few years later, on a CT scan for a weird headache, the scan came back ok for cancer or other things but they said they could see that 3 weeks ago I had had a BRAIN BLEED, and they asked did I remember anything back about then? I could not. But as soon as my doctor saw that report he immediately removed "daily aspirin" from my health plan! He also found that my protein levels on my old, high meat diet were 10 on a scale of zero to 100, but now on the plant-only diet, they were 50, a 500 percent rise. I never take protein supplements, so it's got to be the protein-sparing effect from eating a diet richer in carbs, the whole plant carbs I was eating a large amounts. If the body is low on carbs it will attack and dismantle protein molecules from diet or even from existing muscles and use the carbs to feed the brain. You can imagine what happens, your 20 dollar steak turns in to 20 cents worth of pasta just to get some carbs, and you've been screwed by you own brain. :) Love the diet, BTW, 7 years now, 77 years old, no meds, no symptoms, cholesterol 147, down from 270, BP 72/54 taken 30 minutes after climbing 30 flights of stairs double-stepping, acid reflux gone, ED half gone, wow. I lost 40 lbs kept it off, eat all I want, never hungry. Why wouldn't anyone want that? Beats me. When I started they predicted a 50 percent chance of heart attack in the next two years. All whole plant food diet was the way for me to go, I didn't know till I did it. Don't believe the naysayers here. I can get that some young folks will not know much difference or will say it's not worth it being vegan, but wait, time will come when it will, if my guess is right. There is so much disease that disappears on this diet, and it happens so fast.
Ill be waiting for the film, do you think its going to be available in México?, I hope also be in Netflix. Good Dr. Kahn , I like when he said, Im a vegan doctor.
Best part of this was the reminder of plant based is for health benefits. Yes you can be vegan but if you are eat all the vegan processed foods, or the vegan fried foods, it’s still not the best for you. I do dislike to see the vegan food recipes and they constantly fry, or pour oil all over the plants. And I like how he did not insult Joe Rogan, he actually complimented some parts of him, very respectful.
This guy is right, eating meats with fries and soda is an awful diet. Dont eat fries and soda. Stick with quality red meat, healthy fats, veggies and fruits
That 'debate' with Chris Kresser was a good example of why scientists should not debate non-scientists. Kresser referred to low-quality, low-impact reviews of low-impact, low-quality studies with small numbers of participants. He cherrypicked these from the fringes of the literature and argued that older science is lower quality simply because it's old. Kahn got understandably frustrated with this, because, not having seen what Kresser was referring to, he couldn't rebut it during the podcast. Kresser, cool and collected and convinced of his own bullshit thinking, probably just convinced more people watching at home to eat meat and not listen to cardiologists.
I've been on a strict carnivore diet for 17 months and lost 180lbs. I only eat from the animal kingdom. NY strip and six eggs everyday. I'm healthier than I've ever been by my doctors standards and I have improved mood, energy, and libido. 🤷♂️
A note on erectile dysfunction. There is string evidence in the nofap community and with a man named gary wilson who wrote a book called your brain on porn. Linking excessive porn use with erectile dysfunction mainly in young men. So with the rise of fast internet pornography. We have to consider these implications. This is for men to consider if they are expecting a plant based diet to help with ED any age.
@@skiaddict08 Well, he is still a smart guy, just that his approach to science is quite wrong and highly overestimates his own intelligence. So ''kinda'' because he is not exactly stupid like many others.
@@Kristers_K then joe is not smart at all. At best he is a mildly deficient bootlicker and that is how he made his wealth. Bootlicking those boots and licking hairy sakz.
Klaus back in the greenhouse!!! Life complete.
Evidence that he is funded by meat companies?
heyyyyyy what up mike
Mic the Vegan
we should make Klaus into a real life saint for making such accessible and honest youtube video! 📍❤️
Mic and Klaus. It’s the relationship the world needs. M👬👨❤️👨
😂 came to comment about the green house too 🙌
I couldn’t kale less about my diet. Lettuce just live in peas
you made my day!
at the end of the day, it's about MONEY~
Woxineau Crows Greeeeeeen.....s
Go vegan
OMG 😂
That.... That was brilliant 😂
AAAAAAAHAHAHA
nothing like a doctor with a gold chain worn outside his shirt lol
Oooh, shiiiiiiney...
Ey MA, tell Tohny im goin' down to da dotta , capisce? *Hand gestures*
Just his style. Style and fashion norms are relative :)
heyyyyy....his Mummy bought him that! Watch your mouth! Why i oughta........
Joel Kahn is a Cardiologist; While Kris Kresser is an acupuncturist. That was a legit debate for sure.
Yes that fact seemed to fly to far under the radar.
kris kresser also kept repeating a debunked study that dr khan messed! other than that! that joe rogan debate was pretty good!
Gromp
And Joe Rogan, the moderator, is a stand-up comedian.
Ok, just know that both Dr.Berg and Kresser have worked in highly recognized areas in the field of medicines Dr.Berg is a legit member of some prestigious groups in medicine and has been affiliated with mad places. Do more research on where they’ve worked and whom with. Kresser and Berg as far as accolades have much more and are much respected in the medical community.
I quit my job as a butcher this week after 34 years.I can’t knowingly poison customers and cause animal brutality.. I went vegan 3 months ago and
I haven’t looked back the benefits medically are amazing we have been fed a lie since the day we were born. ✌️
You weren't poisoning anyone.
Also, 2 years later, how is the veganism going? Are you on any supplements yet?
Wow
@@antebellum1776 i am born vegan and never taken supplements lol. Everyone takes supplements bc it's not humanely possible in today's society to get all nutrients clown
@@lisanyugenhascancer6332 Born vegan haha so wtf is breast milk. And it's just not possible to get all the required nutrients on a vegan diet. And it is possible to get all the nutrients in today's society. Just eat appropriately.
How many supplements get you animals? And where does the protein come from? Are they eating plants?
Humans are Herbivores by design. You can't change that. Not even with money, sponsorship and lies
He looks and sounds like a mob boss, just what we need in the movement 😂
sal strange Na he got his ass handed to him on joe rogan podcast 😂
No he doesn’t. He looks like a pompous dork who hates jocks and people who disagree with him. Typical weak minded person
Not all new yorkers are mob bosses... Some of them are just cronies.
ironically you look a lot like him
Yeah, you don't have to eat meat to be able to fashion a pair of concrete flippers.
Tremendous interview! Dr. Kahn is one of our most articulate and gifted cardiologists and I’m hopeful this will help to get him more recognition for his contributions. Especially since heart disease is the number one killer. Kudos, Dr. Kahn!
After watching some Gregor vids, yeah Kahn is prob the best on the vegan side of the fence. Gregor is a nutjob that looks like he's going to die young.
@@SaturatedCat Rogan is brainwashed but he obviously has sponsors that use meat products
@@huntsman528 how very dare you!
@@CastledarkDweller27 You've watched videos of Gregor, right? Like the one where he almost died from eating plants?
@@huntsman528 whaaaaat??
hmmm....proof?
link please?
When you can’t defeat someone with facts and objectivity you start calling name and allegations.
Vegan five years. I suffered from metabolic syndrome (obesity, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and high blood sugar). I went whole food plant based no sugar or oil and low salt and I lost 65 pounds, all my conditions greatly improved, my gums stopped bleeding, and erections and energy returned. I used to have an appetite that was never satisfied; whole foods cured it. I no longer use a sleep apnea machine. Finally, the food is cheap-Beans, lentils, sprouted flourless grain bread, rice, potatoes and seasonal apples. Also, I save money by not having to buy pills or visit the Doctor. I am thankful to all the vegans who suffered attacks to reveal the truth to me.
As a cardiologist, I can say this cardiologist is 100% legit and doing great service to society.
I'm a vegetarian, maybe time to go vegan for me. Data is data.
Ajay Reddy
What about the data that we’ve been eating 80-90% animal protein/fat based diet for 2 million years without cardiac problems. What about data from Egypt showing that they were all cardiac from 80-90% grain based diet?
@@danydms1 there is no such data.
Okay ingest poison momo
Data proves it destroys habitats
@@danydms1 Which data?😂🤦🏼♂️ Science shows saturated fat is #1 reason for heart disease
Joe Rogan isn’t a doctor or a healthcare specialist sooo.... why are we taking what he says so seriously . He is stating his opinion.
Because so many people are susceptible to falling into cults of personality, especially when the talking head promotes ideas that support the followers' biases.
Because of this, Joe has a lot of influence, unfortunately.
@Lena Bean grifty lol 🤣
We have to take him seriously because so many others do.
@@sonja4164 you mean like the cult of veganism ?
@@randyreynolds6508 awww...
You tried...😔
Day 26 as a vegan and feelin’ fine!! Never felt less weighed down or bloated in my life. The amount of energy is crazy. So happy I woke up to all of this.
That's so awrsome! Good for you :)
This makes me so happy to see! I’m happy you’re feeling better!
Citizenthirteen I did it a bit in stages - cut out beef and pork almost 2 years ago. Started incorporating vegetarian and vegan meals scattered, then a bit more regularly. Then this recent change was the final push - poultry, eggs, fish, and dairy are gone! My stomach was terrible on a regular basis before all these changes, so any adjustment period for my gut bacteria has gone unnoticed haha. Really just feeling improvements daily
Slowly adjusting my lifestyle to switch all my leather & clothing products over to vegan friendly versions. I actually switched most of my bathroom products a few months ago anyway - also got rid of all those chemicals!! And switched to plant based, cruelty free.
26 days and 9 hours, keep going. :)
Are you taking vitamin B12 daily?
“Joke Rogan” needs to stop promoting good news about people’s bad habits. A person with as much influence as he has needs to get it right.
Did you see the article published on CNN website saying vegetarians and vegans have higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke? Thoughts on this and prevention?
Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks for serving on the internet.
@@The-Rain-Ninja I saw this but they had vegans and vegetarians in the same group? Seems a bit odd as Veggies eat dairy and eggs and vegans don't. Not sure they should be put in the same group any more than meat eaters and vegetarians should.
@@The-Rain-Ninja I'd first assume that the "vegetarians and vegans" is including the french fry and Oreo vegans rather than WFPB vegans. In that case, the group is still getting too much sat fat, trans fat, salt, sugar, etc. to reflect the "Plant Based News" community.
But let's go with it...
While that may be statistically true that vegans have a higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke, it is also true that fewer vegans have heart attacks, ischemic strokes, cancer, etc. But vegans aren't going to live forever, we'll eventually die of something. So what will be on my death certificate? Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if I died in my 90s as a result of a hemorrhagic stroke. My grandfather ate the SAD and died of a hemorrhagic stroke in his early 70s after suffering for years from atherosclerosis, open heart surgery, carotid artery surgery, etc. May have the same thing on my death certificate, but I'm hoping for many more quality years before that happens.
That's where statistics can be a bitch. If you have a study group of n=2 with a 50yo omnivore dropping dead of a heart attack after being disabled for the previous 5 years after his first heart attack and the other is a 90yo vegan who dies of a hemorrhagic stroke after enjoying decades of excellent health. The flawed conclusion of the study would be that vegans have a much higher risk of hemorrhagic stroke.
Or I might get hit by a car (again) when I'm out running... NEWS FLASH: "Vegans have Higher Risk of Getting Hit by Cars--Should Eat Fish for Traffic Safety"
Sweet jezuz, its the oil. Unhealthy vegan food is still unhealthy food
Man you are killing it. Best veg channel out there. Thanks for the inside access to wonderful humans and wisdom like this.
Great interview. WFPB for a year now. Best decision I ever made.
What does that acronym meam?
Simon Hill whole food plant based. Avoid processed foods as much as possible and no animal products.
💜💜
@Rap Fan Businessman I recommend no. They are processed. While yes, they are vegan, they are not WFPB.
A couple resources for you,
Nutritionfacts.org
And the DailyDozen app
@Rap Fan Businessman and welcome. Do your research and be as good as you can. You will likely notice improvements to your health in less than a month.
I've been meat free for 5 years now. I'm 53 years old at 6ft 3 and 185 lbs. I follow the McDougall method of plenty of starches in my diet. I feel and look great and I literally just got home from Rocky Mountain Fitness where I picked myself up a new 90 lb kettle bell because my 75 lb one wasn't cutting anymore......lol of course according to the meat and dairy industries I'll be dead soon because of my lack of calcium and protein.......lmao 😉
Brian Simpson best comment ever!!!!
Brian, so you are vegan. That is great. You know what regret every vegan has? I am sure you know it. Regret: "I should have been vegan way sooner." That is my regret for sure.
Actually fasting is best for prediabetics
@@bonchidude And me I wish I was aged 12 to start being vegan.
@@frank1847 I wish I would have been vegan at birth. It was not meant to be. Too many anti vegans in families, etc.
NO DMT? Than its no Joe Rogan Conversation
Charles Poliquin and I used to go back and forth about various different exercises and diet.
We never agreed on the Military press and Ultimately, his diet killed him. He died young, extremely young for a fitnesses Professional. 😕
He’s mentioned in this video.
Regardless if it is Biomechanics or Diet, good science is good science. Bad science is usually industry funded and MSM promoted.
Great comment, good to see someone being candid about it!
@Citizenthirteen
And you are following the vegan president Jay Dinshah who died of heart attack...who are the pigheaded stubborn low IQ individuals who just cannot admit they are wrong.
@Citizenthirteen
Guarantee? How? You know that vegans have very low percentage population compared to meat eaters which means 1 million against billions. And you know that you are including every junkfood eaters as meat eaters but in reality, junkfoods are mostly plant based.
@Citizenthirteen
Look at you vegans. You drew first blood, and you gloat at it, but when somebody threw the same to your face, you cry foul. You are the one in denial. The science you are talking about are mostly epidemiological....science thru questionaires!!!
Charles Poloquin was obviously on performance enhancing drugs, can’t really blame the meat. Most bodybuilders die around that age
I've been plant based since 2013 and I'm sure it saved my life. I listen to Joe Rogan's podcast (some of them) because of the interesting guests he interviews. His interview style leads to very open conversations. I felt the "debate" style show he had with Dr. Joel Kahn was terrible frankly, as Dr. Kahn was pitted against a guy who constantly talked over him and refuted the real facts. It was not a serious conversation or debate - it was more of a competition to see who could talk over the other with the same talking points over and over. I don't think Dr. Kahn was the best spokesperson to have for the Plant based argument either, and he seemed poorly prepared for the onslaught of broscience being thrown at him repeatedly. Dr. Greger could have been more interesting, and he probably would have remembered a lot more technical data when challenged. Dr. Pam Popper would have been a solid choice. Dr. Esselstyn or Campbell may have argued their case better, but they also aren't very good speakers. Dr. McDougall would have been a poor choice too, but hilarious because he has a short fuse.
Joe Rogan seems quite willing to admit when he is wrong, he has an open mind about most topics, except this one...he loves his bow hunting, MMA, and he takes testosterone replacement so he can feel like a 21 year old still. He's kind of a super macho guy. I believe his hatred for veganism is his perception that it is un-manly. I think there's lots of men who feel that way (I did at one time, when I was much younger and dumber). I Wish we could figure out how to change that attitude in general.
Perhaps Joe Rogan isn't wrong and a meat based diet works for a lot of people?
Alcohol and cigarettes work for a lot of people too. Doesn't mean its healthy.
@@rickc2222 no they don't. Their are plenty of healthy meats. Plant based is not the only way.
@@jcrhea001 not true
@@rickc2222 I disagree
Long though it was, I listened to most of the nearly four hours of so-called debate. I thought Joe Rogan was fair, and Chris Kressler made some excellent, well-spoken points. In my opinion he won--hands down. Now before you jump all over me, I've been vegetarian for more than 80 percent of my life, and recently went completely vegan. I chose a side long ago and I'm sticking to it. That said, why say things like 0:00, and 4:22? I think we should stay focused, succinct, and be respectful. I think Joe Rogan chooses his debaters strategically. But certainly, he asked good questions and did a great job facilitating.
Peregrine Moss good comment
@@TheMcdrewb Thank you.
A diet debate is not about winning or losing. That's the wrong attitude imo. Its about sharing data, research and experience in their chosen fields. It's not a one bill fits all.
Joe Rogan does NOT look older than he is
Lol isn't he 52? Does he think he looks 62? What a fool.
@@rainbowrandolph9 52?! i thought he looked like 40 and he was implying he was like early 30's lol
IBrainedMyDamage like what? But back it up with proof don’t just make stuff up
@@TeaPotTommy he takes testosterone, he have take when he whas 39 years
I’m vegan and I like Joe Rogan’s podcast. People hating on joe over a single disagreement need to chill the fuck out. Nobody is going to get everything right. Imo just take the advice which you believe to be beneficial to your life and discard the rest.
Maybe I'm over-sharing private details about my life, but I can attest to what vegans claim: I tried carnivore diet for two weeks back in the beginning of the year. What did I get: kidney stones and a noticeable decline in sexual function. Did I lose weight? Sure did, but at what cost? What was all that animal protein and fat doing to my veins and arteries? I went back to a pretty standard diet and saw no improvements in the following 8 to 10 months. Now, in just 7 days of meat-free diet, I'm seeing an impressive improvement in my sexual function, besides having more energy and reducing my waistline.
I'm very excited about the benefits in my health. My cardiologist "threatened" to put me on statins in case I did not lower my cholesterol levels. I should see him in one month and I'm pretty curious what the results of my next check-up are going to be.
Seems like people are becoming awfully willing to tell themselves good news about their bad habits. After all if one vegan is a jerk, that totally justifies me eating as much meat as I want right?? 😂 Thanks PBN! 🙏🏼😄🥦🍌🍎
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so true
@Citizenthirteen well those bastards will always consider anyone stating facts as a jerk. It is a pretext and they are only fooling themselves.
@@ConGamePro that is a very flimsy reason to be vegan. Yeah, most people like to be affirmed of their horrible animal "product" choices so they like shills like rogan, kresser, and faker.
Spot on! Couldn’t have put that simpler
I’ll literally have a debate/conversation when any vegan in the comments. It’s obvious the vegan diet is not optional. So let’s talk
Joe Rogan is not very manly if he’s so terrified of fruit and veg eaters that he has to hold hands with the meat industry. It’s ok Joe we’re not going to hurt you, we just want to save your life.
@Citizenthirteen Well the ussr and china are pseudocommunist forms of government. Real communism means worker coops, unions, democratization of the workplace, and the oligarchs have way less power. USSA
@Citizenthirteen @citizenthirteen: do you mean the bully tactics of the meat industry? When will we reach a tipping point where the lies of the meat industry will force mainstream media to address it?!
The self righteous narcissism in your statement is a perfect example why people reject the vegan cult
@@badcooper235 @Moon Wolf you're mistaken about the self righteous narcism- it was actually sarcasm. That's ok though we'll just chalk it up to your fatty cholesterol levels blocking the oxygen to your brain making you sound ignorant 😀
Exactly!
I am 64 and I have not eaten meat or dairy for nearly 60 yrs...I couldn't even tell you what my doctor looks like,I haven't seen one in more then 50 yrs which was the last time I had antibiotics....I am never ill, I feel fit and light, and have lovely skin ...I have never been over weight and feel well rested after only 6-7 hrs sleep each night.......we all make our own choices and this was mine,and I don't have any regrets ...x
Joe "I don't like factory farming but I give a huge platform for carntards that pushes a meat heavy diet" Rogan.
Imagine having a podcast where you only invited guests who had the same beliefs and opinions as you.
Imagine giving someone a platform that you completely disagree with to get another perspective. What a wild concept huh?
I have been saying this for many years, leaving comments on his videos xD and everyone says, this is a total lie all the time xD
Now we know how he can say one thing but do the opposite- he' s sponsored by the meat industry!
"carntards" 😆😆😆
VEGAN for 34 years 62 years young, total cholesterol 141, hight 6'3" weight 185 lbs lean mean lots of energy. I never loocked back! Vegan is the way for health, for the animals, and for the planet!
“Meat heavy listeners” 😂😂😂
I really like Joe, but I hate his hate on veganism
How can you like someone who murders animals in one of the worst ways possible? I cannot. I despise him.
What is there to like about him?
@@bonchidude He hunts for food nothing wrong with that
@@Peopleofthesun386 Try telling that to the animals who just want to live.
I have been saying this for many years, leaving comments on his videos xD and everyone says, this is a total lie all the time xD
Joe "Let's talk about vegans" Rogan
I like Dr. Kahn. We need more people of influence to not only push back against the meat industry and their puppets, but to do it aggressively. People's lives, and this planet, are at stake here. Let's stop tip toeing around the "meat-heads".
I had no life before I switched to meat only but ok bud
Is he surrounded by edible plants? Wheat grass? A couple dozen heads of multi-colored lettuces and greens?
Looks like a green screen background
He's being controlled by them. That's his altar and he worships him. They give him superpowers.
sowhat i wish
GreenSpace restaurant when in Detroit. Joel Kahn's "Food That Makes You Feel Good" kitchen. Phenomenal !!!
Yup, been there. After eating, I walked out still hungry. Overpriced plant-based dishes. Not worth the hype in my opinion.
Oprah was sued by the beef industry just because she said she wouldn't eat another burger.....I stopped eating beef then & haven't looked back.
im 38 and a vegan three years now and ive never been healthier and more energetic even when i was a teenager i could never do what i did now when it comes to exercise and stamina. my clarity is amazing
You can find people on any diet that would make the same claim
@@chefdenniseasycooked3790 Cope.
People take dietary advice from Joe Rogan? Um... why?
Because he's clearly in very good shape, hes got the hardest spinning back kick ive ever seen
Because he gives the good news people love to hear about their bad habits.
Because The Joe Rogan podcast is to young men, what Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop website is to young women. They’re looking for guidance in a fcukd up world and anyone famous who sounds like they know what they’re talking about, draws them like moths to a porch light.
There are a lot of lonely WoW players with chronic masturbation abuse issues
very few people describe the nuances of nutrition as clearly as Joel Kahn. every video i watch of his leaves me more confident.
lol what? he thinks no one should eat meat how is that nuanced?
@@TheCaptaineustass you need to never speak in public again. your level of idiot should also never procreate. for the good of the human species - never talk again
I had a history of severe stomach pain as a kid so became vegan from a young age. Back in 1995, I was 26 yo, I went to a BBQ that only had sausages and steaks. Against my better judgment I had sausages and bread (no alcohol) and landed up in hospital with acute pancreatitis that never went. I ended up needing a whipples operation. I realise this is just my personal situation and story but I have since met many people especially young women who have got cholecystitis and pancreatitis from eating meat or exacerbated by eating meat. I now struggle eating anything due to the surgery but a mouthful of meat and I’m sick all over again. Just my experience.
Great interview Klaus! As always Dr Kahn has no problem in providing the science and speaking his mind!!!
After being keto for 4 years and feeling like I'm 20 (I'm currently 50), I decided to go full carnivore, and I now feel like I'm 15! My bloodwork is excellent, I poop like a super hero (soft brown snakes), I never lack energy, AND I have zero stress.
Dr Kahn: I live in Northville (I recently heard that you do as well). If you have any interest in studying health, I'm more than happy to volunteer! :)
I wouldn't buy a second hand car from Joel Kahn.
Good, he's not a car salesman. He's a leading cardiologist.
@@Ryan_hey It stands to reason that if Snikkelbek wouldn't buy a used car from the man then he DEFINITELY wouldn't take health advice from him either.
I'm pretty sure that's the sentiment his comment was implying.
Myself, I'd definitely buy a Cardi from him...even if his last name IS con.
@@Ryan_hey no one is doubting his education. He's equally a slimy shill like Rogan/Meat Industry, is what OP refers to.
@@TheRealChilly Which makes no sense because he has no financial investment in the plant food industry other than a couple restaurants. Not sure how that could every be considered "slimy". The man was the only 1 of the 3 trying to keep the peace through the entire debate.
@@Ryan_hey but how can you vehemently believe he has no financial backing from vegan enterprises. You'd have to be his accountant to prove such claims. He's well known in the vegan community, but that doesn't prove he's not a businessman like everyone else. He has how many books, speaking gigs, etc. That's big money.
No meat for over 32 years. I'm 72 year old, no diet related illnesses. I'll never, ever go back to the standard american diet and I don't eat vegan junk food either. WFPB makes me feel great and my doctor is impressed. I'm hooked.
Excellent interview and another top notch job by Klaus and PBN!
How come Joe Brogan never releases his blood tests?
I don't trust anyone wearing a blazer, t-shirt, and a gold chain.
You actually loose muscle mass on a keto diet.... that’s scary
No you do not. You are buying vegan lies.
Andy G Yes you do!!!
@@spaceghost8995 yes you do, youre the one buying keto lies lol the irony
Andy G no you do not. You lose glycogen because your carbs are low. The minute you refers some carbs you will store water and glycogen in your muscles making them larger again.
That is incorrect. You do not lose muscle.
Good interview but I think his comment of "he looks older than he is" was subjective and not something you'd expect a doctor to say.
Engi_Nerd I’d be interested to know how old Joe Rogan is, I must admit. I don’t know if he looks his age or not, but he is very red and flushed - he certainly looks as if he might have high blood pressure.
@@Melissa.Garrett None of the symptoms of high blood pressure are plainly visible, so you are just projecting your biases and speculating. This is similar to how people like to judge thin and healthy vegans as being malnourished. Plant-based advocates should stick to the numerous factual benefits, and not get caught up in the smear-tactics that meatheads (like Joe) rely on.
He does look older than he is. The fact just like i have brown eyes.
Didn't "take the high road" there.lol
_Bruce Buffer voice_
*IIIIIIT’S TIIIIIIIIIME!*
Do you mean Michael Buffer?
?
@@chillwill120 they were both in the biz
Great video. I been vegan coming up on 4 years now and doing great. It's so awesome to see veganism getting more attention. I'm excited for The Game Changers! We got our tickets and I'm just stoked to see the positive changes to come. More people will be exposed to know the truth and lives will change!💕
Still vegan?
Even though being Indian- a country which is mainly vegetarian but highly dependent on dairy, I really hope this wave catches on as I see many people around me turning to meat based diets. This is not a diet tbh..It's a lifestyle.
Why does India have such a high rate of depression when most eat no meat?!
I want a avocado hoodie like that
Hey man hit me up on 866-853-903-22
@@ciaranfleming9556 you have a website?
@@ciaranfleming9556 why?
Go Dr. Kahn. You're super good at making the case for Plant-based!!!!!
Klaus from the greenhouse!
That's Doctor Joel Kahn , I'm his subscriber from Asia.
I went vegetarian a month ago, stopped having acid reflux and off the medication for that condition for the first time in years , I started after watching Hogwood a modern horror story on Netflix it shows the pitifully low standards in British meat and dairy farming.
But now I'm cured of my condition ! .
I'll stay a veggie now ,
This doctor tells the truth and I'm so grateful for people like him. I look 10 to 20 years younger than my age and Joe Rogan looks his age. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but for some meat eaters to bash vegans about their health is absolutely misinforming the public.
Dr. Kahn, I like your stance. You give people credit, you give the benefit of the doubt and you leave it up to the listener to make up their mind. It’s refreshing!!
he said joe was sponsored by the meat industry and looks old implying that joe intentionally misleads people in order to sell meat
So that makes him a meathead. Lol
No it makes him a meat and dairy industry shill who disseminates propaganda
@@Len1977gt Do not forget the egg "industry". But what those "industries" are death camps where trillion die each year.
@@bonchidude Exactly! The meat, dairy, and egg industries are truly enslavement death camps! We need to take them down!
@@g41133 Those death camps are as evil as what the nazis did. But come to think of it, this is faaaar worse because more deaths are caused by those "industries". yes we do and u r 10000000000000000000% right!
😂 Literally
"Meat companies fund man who only eats meat that he has hunted" REEEEAAAALLY. This is as bad as what you are arguing about. Bad argument sorry.
@Soliqko - Instrumental Music sorry I stand corrected. But a conversation is better than a debate as we can learn.
Dr. Kahn got his ass kicked by Chris Kresser in that debate. It wasn't even close. Conventional thinking is not thinking, it is following.
Love plant based news but this is a bit sensationalized. Joe Rogan is sponsored by Butcher Box (grass feed beef), and Kettle Fire (bone broth ). 2 companies = the meat industry? He has like 20 something other sponsors too.
Joe you are not doing yourself any favours mate 👎
Well duhhh...nowdays all famous people are funding by animal products! Like TV
Lapo mouni It does seem that way sometimes. 😔
@@Melissa.Garrett those tv chefs use copious amounts of tortured, dismembered and dead animals for their recipes. They make it sounds natural and wholesome. But it is not a commercial, it is a show where brainwashing ensues. TV = Tell LIE vision
Cannot believe this man was 61 at the time of this interview! Vegan power 🙌🏽
He keeps saying that Joe looks older for his age but Joe is 52 years old I think he looks pretty good for his age🤷🏼♂️
he looks like someone his age when you compare him to people his age that also eat meat and dairy. it's true that not all vegans look young but most people who are vegans look much younger at 52.
True..!!!
I disagree, he looks like he's gonna have a heart attack
@@fullsend8738 how
@@geralddecaire8086 you must be blind.
I became a fan of joe Rogan before I went vegan, I just kind of ignore the meathead videos now
He does get some interesting guests on.
If he can so wrong on diet, then cant trust his thoughts on other topics
@@Galanty - trust? You can enjoy listening to someone and their guests without agreeing with everything they say. What's trust got to do with anything? Think for yourself. Research for yourself. Unless you're looking for some kind of religion where you abdicate all responsibility for yourself and hand over your autonomy to someone else that has won your trust. Listening to what people who disagree with you say is good for you. It avoids the echo chamber guru cult scenario.
Jacob Nichols joe and his ignorant guests are so upset that your greatness is not listening to the podcast anymore 😭
I'm plant based. Many videos of vegans changing and eating meat show people that ate organic whole based plant based foods with fat and not snack food as was suggested. Charles poliquin died of a congenital disease and lived longer than his bro who had same issue
What about the effects of oxalic acids? Oxalates can inhibit iron absorption. I'm vegan, but I have to get my main calorie source from fruit (RIPE banana smoothies) because it's the only way I can get carbs (and thus enough calories) without high oxalic acid content. I also have to be very choosy about my greens, which are also super important for my daily calcium/phosphorous ratios to stay 1:1 (whole orange mono meals also seem to help with this since they have more calcium than OJ). Bok choy and soft leafy greens like romaine and green/red leaf have ideal ratios without the high oxalate content. I don't get kidney stones, but they do run in my family and I get other symptoms that most people don't equate to oxalates. Rich meaty smelling urine, low energy, skin dullness/ acne and teeth problems. I think a lot of people fail the vegan diet due to eating too many oxalates (nuts, spinach, chard, grains etc) as well as poor calcium to phosphorous ratios. I will say, my whole life, my digestion has been compromised due to lack of overall fitness (skinny fat), poor posture/weak core as well as lack of enough sleep. How much sleep someone gets, and how strong of a core and level of physical fitness are huge factors in how well we digest and absorb food, and I think is vastly overlooked.
hello there, i dont know if this will maybe help u a bit or not re: oxalates in greens inhibiting iron absorption?
i too was worried about this as i drink quite a lot of raw green leafy's daily & ive always had very low iron.
i pack about 300-350 grams of raw kale and spinach down into my vitamix till its firmly three quarters full. Then i add as much pineapple as i can fit on top, (cos its the best mask ive found for the taste of those giant kale & giant spinach leaves) Plus some berries (whatevers cheapest) & some apple & raw carrot (always got em in fridge for horse treats) & a big chunk of turmeric root on top. (w/the accompanying black pepper & Tbs chia seeds or ground flax.) I only include turmeric root since a neighbour gave me a whole pillow case full of the stuff! So then i pour water in till its an inch from the top, shoving chopstix down side of blender to make path thru dense kale forest for water to trickle down. I drink the whole blender full, usually in a day, then make it again next day. Sometimes i still have some left on day 2 so wont make a new smoothy till the next day. Its clockwork for me now on at least 5 mornings a week, as part of my transition to whole food vegan 8 months ago - from junk-food vegan for years B4 that. ive lost 20 kgs during the 8 months plus my digestion is now Brilliant! But the best bit is i just got my bloods done and my iron is now up there with THE GOOD LEVELS! For the first time in my life! Thyroid liver & kidneys are also all great & cholesterol is lowest its ever been! (3.9 Australian =just under 150?) The rest of my diet is more like "The Starch Solution" & like u, i dont sleep enough and have a weak core. (only walk for exercise) PS... i drink 2-3 cups soy milk & at least 3 litres water a day. (water & calcium are supposed to help flush out oxalates) This is the best ive ever felt! Good Luck to you hun!
*Facts And Logic Destroy Rogan Nonsense Every Time*
Vegan facts and logic ? Sorry mate but veganism is the closest diet to religion I have ever seen. Lookup the links between the Seventh Day Adventist church and veganism, bloody hilarious that you guys have bought this crap.
@@richardsearcher3540 Clearly you missed out on the intelligence package when it was being handed out in the maternity ward since there's no such thing as "vegan facts and logic" in the same way there's no such thing as "mensa member facts and logic" or "genius facts and logic". All facts and logic are just facts and logic.
Additionally, you obviously don't have a clue what veganism is. Seventh Day Adventist church ≠ veganism in the same way that the Mormons ≠ carnism.
Do you actually have anything intelligent to add to this thread? I would like to actually hear a cogent argument from you.
@@LouisGedo I am sorry to hear that intelligence is an optional extra now days but I would certainly recommend that you take yours back as you have been cheated. Perhaps you might try a little reading (is that possible?), the following review published by members of the SDA church "The Global Influence of the Seventh Day Adventist Church on Diet" dated 22nd August 2018. In this review they celebrate the churches success over the last 140 years to change western society to a "garden of eden diet" (vegan) so Jesus will come back to start the millennium. The SDA church and it's members own Kellogg, Sanitarium and 17 of the world's largest cereal companies, 117 medical and nutrition universities and are the second largest church owned educators after the Catholic church. They actively fund studies that support their point of view and also fund the opposition to anyone daring to question their message. But I suppose that facts don't matter when it comes to ideology do they ?
@@richardsearcher3540 Clearly you didn't learn a thing from my previous important comment.
Your argument suffers from a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy......you've conflated casual relationship with casual relationship.
Back to the drawing board for you, precious cupcake.
@@LouisGedo important comment ? Lololololing. Thanks for the laugh.
I was raised vegan macrobiotic and ate this way for over 25 years and suffered with terrible eczema and aches. Been carnivore for a while now and I am symptom free, high energy levels, focused and sleep much better. My labs look great, CRP came down to normal, lipids are amazing..APoA and ApoB are super good. LDL slightly high, total cholesterol is whitin range, triglycerides are under 50 and HDL is 72. I have monitored my labs every three monthes since starting this way of eating. Most importantly I feel better than ever.
Anecdotal evidence, I’ve heard way more stories of people who were raised on meat/dairy that had many health issues before switching to a plant-based diet. How do you think the animals feel? (The ones forcibly impregnated, confined, abused and murdered for you.)
@@AaronVetsJust think of all the animals " murdered " from protecting crops .
@@denmc7028
The difference is that killing animals to protect your crops is unavoidable unless you want to starve to death. However, farming animals for food is completely unnecessary. Its just killing for pleasure, because you enjoy the taste not because you need to eat it.
Animal products are optional for survival. There’s no reason we need to eat them when we can get our nutrition from far more ethical sources.
Furthermore, feed for animals requires more farmland than just using it directly for crops that people can eat. That means your going to kill many more animals, in addition to the ones you are farming, in the process of protecting your fields, because their is more farmland in use than otherwise.
At the end of the day, your killing less animals if your population gets its calories from plants.
If you exist suffering is simply unavoidable. The question is how much of a suffering footprint you leave behind, that’s what matters. Less suffering is a good thing.
@@DenseCortex killing for pleasure ? Killing for nourishment. Killing for what my body is suppose to eat .
All animals suffer when they die. When a predatory animal kills a deer it suffers greatly . There are videos of bears eating deer alive . When a deer is killed by a human it usually takes one shot and no suffering . When a cow is killed it is one shot .
Please keep eating your mono cropped toxic plants . I will keep eating my beef and other meats .
Lol like 50 % of the comments here starts with "i'm vegan" and the other half is people congratulating them for being vegan. It's so freaking odd, it's like AA-meeting but no one is actually interesting.
I will never understand how you can suggest a diet that doesn't provide everything you need without supplements
So sad it took me this long to see this interview but better late than never. Loved This!!! He is ON POINT!!!
Yo it’s Klaus from the green house...
sounds like a Rap line. 😂🌱🙌🏼
I found the comment about Joe Rogan looking older than his age to be completely unnecessary, especially coming from a highly educated health physician. Why create such sensational headlines?
I think it's cos this is one of the things joe likes to say about vegans, that all vegans look much older when it's of course not the case
Yeah I'm sure there's gotta be a smarter way to respond to criticism.
I just don’t understand how everyone talks about the science when in fact the science they’re referring to is “food questionnaires” show me a clinical study, an experimental study or anything non observatory.
Geoff G No need for studies when you have life experience. Try it yourself.
bbenabe unlike you I prefer to base my life on evidence.
Joe Rogan is Obsessed with the Vegan diet, he knows damn well people can and will thrive on a Whole Foods plant based diet, he would loose so much if he publicly admitted it...
Theo Vs Theo I don’t think he would lose much, most people who follow Joe aren’t doing it because he is a meat eater, his content is extremely varied, it isn’t a healthy based podcast.
Logan Hartsock he repeatedly has Doctors and “nutritionists” on his podcast man are you kidding me?! I’ve been listing to JRE since the start of his podcast years ago, I’ve seen the change first hand, he definitely has a agenda
Theo Vs Theo but they make up a small percentage of who he has on. So, again, I don’t think it would affect his podcast very much.
Logan Hartsock are you kidding me? He constantly talks nutrition! lol
Theo Vs Theo except for all the podcasts he doesn’t.... which is a lot.
Fist 3 seconds of the show “he looks old for his age”. Was he talking about Rogan? Rogan is in his 50’s
I think he meant “younger”
Seriously 😳.. come on dude Im older then Joe .. and Joe is also on TRT hahaha 😂 .. what a Joke .. and now Joe is on the carnivore diet too .. speaking of shortening your lifespan and looking old ..
saw mark bell recently too .. looks like shit ..all black and blue under his eyes wow 😳
And these guys try to tell us about diet ? What a laughter 🤓
@@skullboy1967 You're insane. Compared to most 50 year olds Rogan looks young
cliff onator well he is wealthy so I’m sure he eats quality meats all the time. A lot different when your meat diet constists of fast food and frozen section at a food market. He also spends a lot of his money on his health.
cliff onator because the most people even eat more shit than him .. compare him to vegan sportsman of his age .. THEN you have an honest comparison
It was not a debate between Joe Rogan Dr. Khan. It was a discussion between Khan and Chris Kresser and Joe was the moderator. Number two, everyone should listen to the entire podcast.
I love Joe and his capability to learn and hold conversations with anyone. I'm a huge fan in that regard. Is he biased? Yes, we all are to an extent. But I do agree he looks kind of swollen, and not from working out.
biased? no he's a sell out who sold his soul. he is sponsored by the elites.
ergo, biased.
@@Sammy-ox1my not biased. as none of its his own thoughts. he has to follow an agenda. he is a swindler, a shill. --- the old joe rogan was biased. the new joe rogan is not.
Not sure about that, but alright.
@@Sammy-ox1my do you know how much rogan makes from george soros a podcast? 250k. now all you have to do is look into the george soros agenda. theres a reason why joe rogan stopped live streaming his pod casts.. he cannot upset his handlers and release something that gets such a negative outlook, like the twitter ceo podcast that finally woke a majority of people up to joe rogans shill ways.
"He looks older than his age" - what a shitty argument for not eating meat. If you have any idea what he has done in his life and how hard he works, you can give him a break on his looks.
Specially when most vegan doctors look older than their age. Like Dr. Greger look 20 years older than his age, he's 46 lmao.
To be honest I respect that guy who is vegan that debated with Joe Rogan but I do not respect Joe Rogan because he doesn’t know what he is speaking about most of the times and he criticize vegans like myself and I am very excited about the game changers documentary.
Actually, he is sick of being criticized by vegans.
Holy run on sentence, Batman. Learn some punctuation
This is 4 years old, I’m glad I found this way of eating…50 kilos removed. Was losing slow, but the vegan lifestyle/Plant Based people are winning
Joe Rogan looks older than 52? What?
Joke Rogan, because we know a joke of a person when we see one.
Another wonderfully empowering interview! Shared!
thank you!
It's so obvious in hindsight. The strategy was to focus on a single point they thought they could win, and then declare a full scale victory (even if they'd lose every other point). When debating people on veganism or climate change I find that strategy continually. Any point I will make, they just stop arguing without conceding the point. And the keep throwing more and more arguments, and I keep deflecting them, and their hope is just to score that one point and then celebrate having won the entire argument.
I am vegan and, prior to switching, my doctor came up with a fresh health plan listing the vegan diet and NO statins, but he could not resist throwing in daily aspirin, "for insurance". He also added a protein levels test to ensure I was getting enough. Few years later, on a CT scan for a weird headache, the scan came back ok for cancer or other things but they said they could see that 3 weeks ago I had had a BRAIN BLEED, and they asked did I remember anything back about then? I could not. But as soon as my doctor saw that report he immediately removed "daily aspirin" from my health plan! He also found that my protein levels on my old, high meat diet were 10 on a scale of zero to 100, but now on the plant-only diet, they were 50, a 500 percent rise. I never take protein supplements, so it's got to be the protein-sparing effect from eating a diet richer in carbs, the whole plant carbs I was eating a large amounts. If the body is low on carbs it will attack and dismantle protein molecules from diet or even from existing muscles and use the carbs to feed the brain. You can imagine what happens, your 20 dollar steak turns in to 20 cents worth of pasta just to get some carbs, and you've been screwed by you own brain. :) Love the diet, BTW, 7 years now, 77 years old, no meds, no symptoms, cholesterol 147, down from 270, BP 72/54 taken 30 minutes after climbing 30 flights of stairs double-stepping, acid reflux gone, ED half gone, wow. I lost 40 lbs kept it off, eat all I want, never hungry. Why wouldn't anyone want that? Beats me. When I started they predicted a 50 percent chance of heart attack in the next two years. All whole plant food diet was the way for me to go, I didn't know till I did it. Don't believe the naysayers here. I can get that some young folks will not know much difference or will say it's not worth it being vegan, but wait, time will come when it will, if my guess is right. There is so much disease that disappears on this diet, and it happens so fast.
Ill be waiting for the film, do you think its going to be available in México?, I hope also be in Netflix. Good Dr. Kahn , I like when he said, Im a vegan doctor.
Man, Dr. Kahn was on fire in this interview! Thanks Klaus for another great interview.
You two weaklings outta get a room
@@clarenceboddiker9559 jelly!
Best part of this was the reminder of plant based is for health benefits. Yes you can be vegan but if you are eat all the vegan processed foods, or the vegan fried foods, it’s still not the best for you. I do dislike to see the vegan food recipes and they constantly fry, or pour oil all over the plants. And I like how he did not insult Joe Rogan, he actually complimented some parts of him, very respectful.
This guy is right, eating meats with fries and soda is an awful diet. Dont eat fries and soda. Stick with quality red meat, healthy fats, veggies and fruits
I saw through Joe Rogan's mask several months ago.
Joe Rogan himself says he's not an expert and not to listen to him. He's as transparent as can be,vao what mask is this you're talking about? Lol
Veganism is the best way to go. For animals and preserving the environment, I would make sacrifices.
Lol... You look weak af
beautiful comment man. Love you!
That 'debate' with Chris Kresser was a good example of why scientists should not debate non-scientists. Kresser referred to low-quality, low-impact reviews of low-impact, low-quality studies with small numbers of participants. He cherrypicked these from the fringes of the literature and argued that older science is lower quality simply because it's old. Kahn got understandably frustrated with this, because, not having seen what Kresser was referring to, he couldn't rebut it during the podcast. Kresser, cool and collected and convinced of his own bullshit thinking, probably just convinced more people watching at home to eat meat and not listen to cardiologists.
I don't care about animal cruelty. It's not the reason I am vegan.
I am vegan, because it works for me
Guy A you don’t care about animals ?
Schwarzenegger is still starring in films and getting paid huge bucks. He hardly needs the money.
I've been on a strict carnivore diet for 17 months and lost 180lbs. I only eat from the animal kingdom. NY strip and six eggs everyday. I'm healthier than I've ever been by my doctors standards and I have improved mood, energy, and libido. 🤷♂️
Don't think any true athlete relies on junk food to supplement their diet
A note on erectile dysfunction. There is string evidence in the nofap community and with a man named gary wilson who wrote a book called your brain on porn. Linking excessive porn use with erectile dysfunction mainly in young men.
So with the rise of fast internet pornography. We have to consider these implications.
This is for men to consider if they are expecting a plant based diet to help with ED any age.
Love how he slapped Bart Kay, he kind of deserves it :)
Just kinda? :P
@@skiaddict08 Well, he is still a smart guy, just that his approach to science is quite wrong and highly overestimates his own intelligence. So ''kinda'' because he is not exactly stupid like many others.
Kristers Krūka Agreed, well said
@@Kristers_K then joe is not smart at all. At best he is a mildly deficient bootlicker and that is how he made his wealth. Bootlicking those boots and licking hairy sakz.