Overwatch 2 Mythbusters - RAMATTRA Edition
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
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00:00 - Intro
Ravenous Vortex
00:21 - Does Ravenous Vortex persist beyond LoS?
00:32 - Does Ravenous Vortex LoS get blocked by shields?
00:48 - Does Ravenous Vortex stop you from using the jump pad?
01:02 - Does Ravenous Vortex pull down D.Va bomb?
01:27 - Does Ravenous Vortex get eaten by D.Va or Sigma?
01:39 - Does Ravenous Vortex get deflected by Genji?
01:49 - Does Ravenous Vortex prevent friendly Sigma from lifting enemies with his ult?
02:10 - Does Ravenous Vortex pull down enemies who were lifted by a friendly Gravitic Flux?
02:26 - Does Ravenous Vortex pull Ball and negate his Slam?
02:43 - Does Ravenous Vortex decrease activation time of Lucio's Sound Barrier?
03:02 - Does Ravenous Vortex pull down a Mercy Guardian Angel?
Nemesis Form
03:17 - Does Nemesis form get cancelled with Sombra's EMP?
03:29 - Does Ramattra become invincible or CC immune during Nemesis transform?
Pummel
03:41 - Does Pummel damage barriers itself?
04:00 - Does Pummel damage through D.Va's Matrix or Sigma's Grasp?
04:13 - Does Pummel damage through Winston's barrier twice?
04:28 - Does Pummel damage through Zarya's Bubble?
04:38 - Does Pummel damage amp through Baptiste's Amplification Matrix?
05:01 - Does Pummel damage through Mei's Ice Wall?
05:12 - Can Pummel damage be deflected by Genji?
Block
05:23 - Can Block reduce damage from Sigma's ult?
05:37 - Can Block reduce damage from Sombra's ult?
05:52 - Can Block reduce damage from Cassidy's ult?
06:09 - Can Block reduce damage from Bastion's ult?
06:35 - Can Block reduce damage from Hanzo's ult?
06:48 - Does Block reduce damage from sticky grenades?
Annihilation
07:22 - Does Annihilation tether break if you're stunned?
07:41 - Does Annihilation tether damage cut off immediately after leaving its range?
08:00 - Does Annihilation tether through barriers?
08:14 - Does Annihilation tether through Zarya's Bubble?
08:25 - Does Annihilation tether onto Ashe's B.O.B.?
08:36 - Does Annihilation tether onto an invisible Sombra?
08:48 - Does Annihilation get cancelled with Sombra's Hack or EMP?
09:08 - Does Annihilation tether through Zenyatta's Transcendence?
09:23 - Does Annihilation's damage amplify by Kiriko's Kitsune Rush?
09:40 - Does Annihilation's damage amplify by damage modifiers?
10:15 - Does Annihilation's damage amplify through Baptiste's Amplification Matrix?
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Myth: Blizzard knows how to balance the game.
Dose sigma's rock act like other projectiles for being deflected, eaten, or amplification Matrix?
Does Ramattra's Ult can damage Sym's Turrets, Torb Turret or Sombra Translocator?
marching through a hanzo dragon with your block up looks like you're doing what hanzo tried to at the end of the dragons cinematic
Yeah it looks pretty cool
I'm gonna do this on purpose with my voice line activated, gonna look cool. I'm a ram main btw
"I have done what you could not"
@@IronMan-jj2fd your arrogance will cost you
@@crusher578 But it would look cool!
Watching the Vortex just pull the Doom downwards while it just keeps bouncing is the most funnily cursed thing I've seen about Rama
What?
@@KidGamerMsd the vortex in the jump pad
@@KidGamerMsd 0:48 the Time if you want to check
What is cc?
@@Whereismykar stuns like earth shatter and sleepdart
“Genji deflects all projectile so that’s pretty obvious as well” SIG ROCK WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU KARQ
rock is an object like symm's turret or sombra's translocator, it dealing damage on impact is its quirk shared by things like brig's bash and hog's hook
@@black7594 Genji’s deflect null’s brigs damage (and I believe used to remove the stun) and hog can’t hook through deflect
@@black7594 Except it get's boosted by window so it is a projectile
ok but it's a big ass rock how is he supposed to deflect that it's literally almost his size lmao
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I wish you stacked all the damage amplifiers to see how much damage Annihilation would do with nano, discord and mercy damage boost
It would add up to 105% damage increase on a single target, which would increase the DPS of Annihilation from 30 to 61.5.
You wouldn't be able to have 3 supports in a regular game
@@matrixshaman6652 technically you can with Echo
@@matrixshaman6652 open queue moment
@@amphire8124 assuming anyone plays support.
Regarding pummel being a projectile:
There are certain abilities that are unaffected by matrix/grasp. The key one of these is Accretion Sigma's Rock, that bypasses matrix, grasp and genji deflect.
is Kenji a new hero?
@@nezcronyea he dropped alongside ramattra
@@nezcron Yeah, he's kinda like genji but he only has 24 ammo instead of 27
@@nezcron He’s another Japanese hero who can climb walls, and it turns out he’s Genji’s and Hanzo’s cousin who was always part of the story. He also has sorcery powers in the near future setting of Overwatch.
I think Pummel works as an extended melee, because Genji does not deflect the projectile and only stops the damage. It's the same with any melee abilties, but Accreation just bypasses the deflect and hits as normal.
Ramattra block being able to tank a fully charged deadeye is pretty huge. I like how his block is a much better block than Doom's because it has no cooldown
Doom can block for like 2 or 3 seconds, and Ram can block for all 8 seconds of nemesis form, and infinitely for Annihilation lol
well dooms gets an op punch though
its better to just leave nemesis and put a barrier in front of cassidy though, so the rest of your team doesnt die
Ramzo 🤔
@@ronky2380 if you stand close enough you could eat all the bullets
This gives me a lot more respect for how complex it is to add a new hero to the existing pool of abilities
I really like Genji's interaction with deflecting Ramattra's punches. Zenyatta's training has proven quite useful
he actually blocks them and not deflect them back similar to melee attacks and hook
It should be stated, that sombra can avoid annihilation when invisible, unless she is detected. So if she gets too close, it will tether to her
5:30
Block actually DOES reduce damage, but you need to be looking straight up! It works for Doomfist too. If you do so, you will reduce the impact damage of Sigma's Gravitic Flux.
Yup - added it to a future episode once someone told me you actually good in the comments somewhere here a month ago ruclips.net/video/e-Erm0WRmmA/видео.html
@@KarQ LOL it might've been your video I learned this from! My memory isn't the strongest :)
6:15 you can block bastion ult looking up btw. You just need to catch the protectile before it hits the ground.
He was directly in the center, so unless you've got proof, this is a cap.
@@RecordToDeathToBoredom flats tested it and it worked
Interesting... might try this one again then. In any case... ideally you wanna move out of the center anyway and try blocking forward cuz its safer and less risky - lokoed like I was sitting underneath the center and blocknig but still missed apparently
@@KarQ Also, doom can block the damage from sigma's ult by looking up. I'm guessing Ramattra's block works the same.
@@khe2576 yes it does, as a RAMATTRA main i always escape Sigma ult by blocking & looking up !
i loved the part where he busted on ramatra
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6:09 This is interesting because I remembering seeing Emongg demonstrating and being able to block it head on in the center while looking up.
it has to hit him directly, not the ground next to him
4:47 I think this is a case where design intention prioritizes consistency. The intent behind pummel is that it's damage that bypasses enemy tank defenses, so it's built to go through defense matrix. With Baptiste, it would feel disappointing and unintuitive to have these two abilities not synergize, so it's still a projectile for that interaction.
at the same time it doesn't go through all barriers because of blizzards favorite little princess zarya.
A nanoed ram in overtime is gonna be scary
Ok but imagine in open queue,Ram for annihilation,Lucio for speed,Mercy to keep Ram alive,Ana for Nano and a Zen for discord orbs. Now that is truly terrifying
Or even regular ram ult + grav would be busted, with the constant damage and punches
It is! As a RAMATTRA main i had a match in eichenwalde where in the end during overtime i got nanoed got the 2nd checkpoint & won while i was punching everyone to their spawnpoint! I watched my replay from enemy POV and it looked terrifying tbh
1 month in the future here and I can confirm that to be the case
It does kind of get "eaten" by Sig's grasp.
You can see that even though he's getting hit, he still gets the health from absorbing projectiles
I'm bussing over these myths
I'd like to see what happens when Ravenous Vortex is partially over a void. Do flying enemies caught in it over the void get pulled all the way down to their death, or just to ground level?
It would probably only apply the downward pull over the ground and not over the cliff/pit.
The demonstration with the Dva ult sure looked like the mech was dipping into the hole before it got out of vortex.
@@markdswan Oh yeah I guess you’re right. If only I had friends to test it out myself ;(
So, for funsies while we filmed the Ravenous Vortex stuff, we threw it over the edge. There's a lot more to the Vortex below it, too. Pharah gets yoinked down there, until she leaves the bottom hitbox. B.O.B. gets ripped down like a Looney Tunes character. It's great, but the grounded momentum stops basically at the same distance from the ground to the top.
I did this in a Deathmatch it pulled someone down but i didn't get kill credit for it.
4:54 well, Sigma's accretion (rock) can't be absorbed by Dva or opponent Sigma, yet it still get its damage doubled by Baptiste's ultimate.
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At 5:23, you actually can reduce sigma ult damage by looking up when you block, this is the same for Doomfist!
I made this video early in December 2022 and people taught me you could look up and block flux which I covered here: ruclips.net/video/e-Erm0WRmmA/видео.html
However, since Feb 7 (Season 3) this has been patched and you can no longer do it anymore anyways!
I enjoy your content, been watching a long time. Some times I think about how much easier it must be to make this content now with workshops and stuff than it must have been when you started.
5:24
iirc you can reduce sigma's ult dmg by blocking and looking up to the sky
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Hey KarQ in your "3 tips for every Ramattra ability" video, you should include during Nemesis form using a melee is quicker to follow up a pummel than doing another pummel. This comes up a lot while fighting a 200 hp target since you only need 3 pummels and a melee instead of committing to 4 full pummels.
Excellent video. Informative and well crafted.
Me seeing vortex interact with sigmas ult: well thank god double tank isn't in the game
Me realizing echo exists: no. NO!
Can annihilation be interrupted by cleanse abilities, like Kiriko's suzu?
Yes since suzu makes enemies intangiable
yes if timed right
best series for ow hands down, thank you karq :)
keep up the good work man
That Luico beat was so random, i love that KarQ and his team did that lol
I don't know if they intend to fix it or not but Ramattra can block to reduce bleed damage from Junker Queen, even when starting the block late.
I wonder if the ravenous vortex pulls down a pharah in her ult
it does, but it doesnt cancel her ult, so it's as if she popped ult while grounded (which could lead to a hilarious interaction if the pharah gets pulled while she aims her ult at a downward angle and gets killed by her splash damage)
Nice pfp
@@BatteriesRHigh OH MY GOD that sounds incredible... I've had so many Pharahs in games recently so I need to try this so bad lmao
@@BatteriesRHigh that'd be so embarrassing lmao
@@jessicastjames6202 Vortex only has a 9 meter vertical range, so it won't work if she's too high up in the air.
Thanks so much for these videos. You do such a good job and it’s very helpful when playing!!!
6:39 Just like in the Dragons cinematic! Also looks badass...
The sigma and ramattra grav flux and vortex is a good combo cause they’ll think they’re safe from the damage but they get hit then the sig damage hits
9:17 Now I'm wondering if Kiriko's protection Suzu will make Ramattra's ult cooldown continue.
if you get to suzu everyone in there/your whole team then it should stop ramattra from connecting (or at least connect but cooldown like zenyatta's ult does)
@@TheAsselof Probably, but it wouldn't be that useful realistically as Ramattra's ult lasts for three seconds and protection Suzu only lasts for one.
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@@crazyduckthing1210 It'd be enough for your teammates to gtfo if Ram is CC'd or if the duration remaining on his ult timer is low enough, so niche but a viable interaction to keep in mind.
Wow, great video. Very informative. Thank you!
Loved watching your stream last night.. your videos are always great
does junkrats tire get pulled down faster and does it stop tire climbing walls when ramattra uses ravenous vortex?
4:38 Does Pummel damage amp through Baptiste's Amplification Matrix? Not crazy surprising, works the same as Winston's secondary fire
ramattra blocking hanzo dragons is so cool, i can just see a cinematic of him doing that as hanzo just takes a step back in shock
Was waiting for this, thanks!!
For the damage boost on the ult, if you play open queue, and have a mercy boost, nano, and discord orb, will the damage stack?
All forms of damage amplification stack as long as they're of different kind.
Nano + Boost + discord + window stack
Nano + nano or boosto + boost don't stack
Babe wake up KarQ posted a new mythbusters video
Nice video actually. Very informative
This was amazing and great info to have!
Nano + Annihilation is very devastating. You can't cancel it, it's hard to kill nanod Ramattra and you take huge damage (remember he will also pummel you down, not only tickle you with Annihilation). I saw multiple teamwipes with this combo, even Transcendence doesn't really protect you from it, because it doesn't stop lmao so you can survive full Transcendence and still have your ult up. I think the only viable strategy to negate it is to use mobile heroes or Lucio Speedboost and leave the guy completely. He becomes raid boss with nano and pocket so good luck fighting him.
More like "final boss"
For Cassidy's deadeye, is it different if he's already locked on, and then you start blocking?
I imagine it would act the same as putting up a shield last second
Him being able to go through shields, sigma's vortex and diva's matrix is pretty interesting
Good ol' Mythbussy.
CC doesn’t stop Ram ult. But if you sleep him you just take a couple steps back and he can’t keep it attached to you.
I really wish his E was a cage eight ground properties. Had a longer cd obviously but it would been so cool!
Lucio mains when they get pulled down by the vortex:
*uninstalls*
Great work Kar Q as always
Does Annihilation's counter pause based on whether it's doing damage? Since just tethering is apparently not enough, what makes the timer stop? I think you can test this with immortality field maybe
I think the timer stops whenever an ennemy is in the area of effect of annihilation (as long as it's not an invisible sombra, phase moira and i'm pretty sure same with reaper since those three don't count as players when they're in that state, like they don't even count to capture points for example)
Yes, it’s based on doing dmg not tether. This was explained earlier. I’ll have to see if it works on immortal enemies tho!
Pretty sure immortal enemies still take damage, it's just mitigated by the field (it shows up on Baps stats). Zen is just invincible.
Can Wrecking Ball's mines sit on the robot? Had a weird interaction where the mine just... moved with the robot? Twas weird
If it can sit on the Robot, it can move with it, just like the payload.
Thx for your hard work :)
@4:40 i want to say its kinda like sigmas rock, it does get amplified because it "passes" through the window unlike a constant beam like zarya, but it cannot be deflected/eaten
His pummel damage seems not to charge Doomfist's power block
Maybe because it pierces and ignored the block
I never knew that Sombra's emp does damage. Does that mean that if enemies are low enough, they can potentially die to EMP?
i think it deals 40% of their *current* hp, so it actually deals less damage when targets are low on health
Technically not by itself, as is does 40% current health, however if you emp a low hp target they'd likely have single-digit hp and you could sneeze on them for the kill
@@Nennai OW1 Zenyatta basically
Super cool new intro
4:44 it also amplify hitscan iirc, so I think what it does is that it check your and the enemy's position (if your attack connect), and if it pass through the barrier, it's amplified
You might be able to use Vortex to bring Mccree back down from Flux (So he doesn't get a good ult off)
With a bit of luck, at least one person who has watched this vid will encounter this scenario in their lifetime.
There is a bug when Echo copy Ramatra and use his nemesis form echo's HP will go to 600
*Edited*(450) not (600)
as of right now with echo thats not a bug
@@jerryshadley8977 Isn't her health limited to like 300 in copy form?
Yikes, this should be patched
so from what I understand there are two types of projectiles in ow, deflectable and eatable projectiles like sig primary fire, most projectiles, and misc projectiles like accretion and pummel, which cannot be eaten or deflected, but for the purposes of bap ult they are considered projectiles
@5:25 you can actually reduce the damage from sig ult if you block while looking up.
Do the fists from pummel deal damage (not the projectile)
No. All the damage from pummel is from the projectile
Awesome video, thanks!
I've also survived some Junkrat tires by blocking in Nemesis Form
I hate the projectile pummel logic. Consistency of abilities is extremely important in OW especially for newer players so that there are just a few rules they need to learn to understand pretty much all interactions. But inconsistencies like this make it so that every interaction becomes an exception.
i love the myth buster videos
love this content!
That was very informatinal
Block survived an whole High noon and hanzo ult lmao
I have done this a few times, while still tethered ball still keeps his momentum as long as he isnt in air
Da king is back baby he neva miss
2:44
Actually figured that would happen and used it in a game today to save our team from Ram ult 😅
Does the downward movement speed of Ravenous Vortex stay after not beeing affected by it anymore?
As example, if you put the Vortex at the edge of Illios Well or any Cliff or something and a character gets caught in it above the abyss, are they doomed or do they have a chance of surviving?
Not a myth but a fun combo I discovered. Nano Annihilation with Kitsune.
it's Star Platinum.
I believe that dvas and sigmas eating are barriers that remove projectiles but because they might be considered a barrier in the games code the punch goes through it even though its considered a projectile
Man's busting all over these myths
Punched through a baptiste window the other day and the squishy evaporated, but I wasn’t sure if it was from me at the time. That’s a cool if somewhat niche interaction.
you can block the annihilation ult with brig too if you use shield and i wonder if you use mercy damage boost and ana nano if the damage gets stacked
thank you karq
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The fact that his ultimate can literally not be stopped is good to knkw
To make mccrees ult more clear. High noon can only deal a max damage of the targets current hp which is why if you hold ult on a single shielding rein for the full 7 seconds you will never break that barrier in one shot unless you have damage multipliers where this rule is broken like bap wall doubling damage for (almost) any projectile going through it while things like mercy beam and nano just ramp it up faster. There’s also an interaction with damage reduction which I believe it just ignores in its calculations. But with ramattra block it seems like a special case since it’s only “damage from the front” so I’m guessing it’s a mini bap wall in front of him which anything that passes through that only deals 25% of its original damage.
Bap ult works on hitscans too, don’t forget. So do kinetic grasp and defense matrix. Beams are the only things that go through, apart from some special exceptions
Nice in info
I'm curious about ram ult and ball ult, ball ult has had a few fun interactions in the past such as granting healing to Brig passive
3:29 pretty sure you can cancel hog hook, if the hook landed at the same time as you pop nemesis
5:34 tried doing this with a mate after learning that if doomfist looks up and blocks in sig ult he takes reduced damage and charge first it’s the same for ramattra look up and you’ll take reduce damage from block and armour and when you get back into omnic form you lost 50 of your health if there team doesn’t light you up so it does work
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Pummel is the second exception to the Defense/Amplification Matrix rules, the first being Accretion. It cannot be eaten, but can be Amplified.
wow man the cassidy ult on ramattra is just sad
If you block while in nemesis form and look up during sigmas ult, you can block the damage outright
KarQ how do you make float damage numbers show up?
is it a setting or is it in a custom game
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2:10 this happened to me in an open queue game yesterday
His Ravenous Vortex seems like it benefits enemies more than it does his own team
The vortex looks like it applies a ceiling above it, or at least abilities are calculated as if this is the case at times. Sigma's Flux works exactly the same as if the player being lifted has hit a ceiling.
On another note - using Flux with that vortext would allow for the high damage without giving vantage points for ults like high noon.
just to note, Flats and Emongg have tested that a Mercy GA-ing completely upwards can go against the pull and gain altitude. Super slowly though so you'd most likely get shot to death before getting out of the vertical height